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[–][deleted] 176 points177 points  (71 children)

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Combining a social movement with hard science? What a "good" idea. Why haven't we thought of this before? There is no way any biases will occur and everyone will totally take their findings seriously...

[–]goodbyeniceguy 114 points115 points  (48 children)

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There is no way this will not be the laughing stock of the science community. This has to be the tipping point for feminism I mean come on this shit is just getting ridiculous.

[–]SpeakDaTruf 22 points23 points  (1 child)

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The laughing stock they will be will play into their victim card that much more. The 'normal' scientists are laughing because they are 'discriminatory'

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 17 points18 points  (0 children)

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The laughing stock they will be...

Actually, they'll be irrelevant, working in some shitty job unrelated to their useless degree. This program is just a clever marketing ploy - packaging a consumer-friendly product to sell to a gullible market segment... We should all be exploiting women's gullibility so effectively.

[–]shamanbard 23 points24 points  (2 children)

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Agreed, they'll most likely be ignored by the scientific community at large.

There's no room for their bullshit in a world of hard facts.

[–]thibit 14 points15 points  (1 child)

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There's no room for their bullshit in a world of hard facts.

There is a majority bias that does occur in some branches. Don't pooh-pooh this lest it gains too much of a weight to be ignorable.

[–]desylid 41 points42 points  (41 children)

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Doubtful that this will be the tipping point. The scientific community was deliberately infected with sinister political ideology 100 years ago during the Progressive Era and it is showing no signs of healing.

The fact that the humanities even contain the term science in "social sciences" is disgraceful.

One of first "scientists" in reddit's Science AMA series was Stephan Lewandosky, an experimental psychologist who researches public acceptance of conspiracy theories. That piece of shit is about as adept at science as the fake interpreter at Nelson Mandela was at sign language. The only difference in the situation is that fraud of the latter was immediately and widely recognized. People like Stephen Lewandosky, glorified shills of political ideology who are using science to spread their propaganda, are actually taken seriously!

Maybe I'm overly cynical but I only imagine it getting worse.

Science is apolitical and acultural. The laws of nature are independent of language. Unfortunately language is often necessary in order to express information. Progressives/leftists/socialists/collectivists are masterful at manipulating language. When science disagrees with ideology they simply change the language and pretend to be justified by the scientific method.

[–]Lightning14 22 points23 points  (2 children)

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The fact that the humanities even contain the term science in "social sciences" is disgraceful.

I respectfully disagree. Scientific methodologies and statistical analysis are applied in the social sciences. They will never give us as accurate/defining answers as the hard sciences are capable. That is the nature of trying to isolate cause and effect in complex social structures. But they are a collective effort at better understanding the social world around us.

Theories are posited and are tested against what we observe. Patterns are revealed and we then build a knowledge base around those patterns. TRP itself is a form of social science. It is a study in the mechanics of sexual interaction in which we have built a theory around based on a collection of statistics, patterns, and anecdotes (experiments).

[–]Misterlulz 12 points13 points  (10 children)

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Progressives/leftists/socialists/collectivists are masterful at manipulating language.

I have to disagree. I would say that anyone, regardless of their political or social orientation is capable of manipulating language. Just look at Frank Luntz, for instance. He has made a whole career out of it, and he is known for being a political conservative. :)

[–]tedted8888 1 point2 points  (5 children)

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It comes from both sides. Just the progressives have been better at convincing the public at large

[–]vaporfarts 3 points4 points  (4 children)

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Because they use a language everyone can relate to, feelings. Those heart strings also attach to peoples arms, legs and fingers. And like puppets they will dance to the tune of self righteousness.

[–]tedted8888 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Feelings, and they tend to do glib 3rd grade level analysis of problems. Like how do you solve poverty? obviously give the poor more money duh. Then the right says well raising minimum wage would actully cause the poorest of people to be unemployed. Its somewhat counter-intuitive to the general population, and I dont really understand how you can tell some emotional sob story about how raising the minimum wage will cause highschoolers to loose jobs. The dogma runs very deep. The left is great on social issues and the right is great on economic issues. Thats why i'm a libertarian.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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It wasn't the language of the land until women's suffrage. I would argue that politics has moved quite a bit closer to feelz and quite far from logic once that happened. Hell I don't think the Constitution would be recognizable if it was written today. We'd have amendments like speech should be restricted if hurtful, arms should be restricted because Chicago is literally Baghdad, etc

[–]nignog28 13 points14 points  (3 children)

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Progressives/leftists/socialists/collectivists are masterful at manipulating language.

Crazy comes both way on the political spectrum. I am surprised it's taken feminists this long to create a propaganda machine under the guise of science. The crazies on the right have done far more damage to science education, let's not forget the creationists and their constant push for fairy tales in public schools.

e.g. http://www.icr.org/

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

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Progressives/leftists/socialists/collectivists are masterful at manipulating language. When science disagrees with ideology they simply change the language and pretend to be justified by the scientific method.

My personal favorite is "strong objectivism."

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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Economics, international relations, archaeology and anthropology all fall under the guise of social science...

[–]icanteventhecat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Well, actually this is a good thing. Any idiot who willingly associates themselves with this project will pretty much be excommunicated from the research community.

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    [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (7 children)

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    This is a sarcastic comment but it should be the top response to the OP.

    Back in the 20s Feminists (an important movement at the time, unlike today) adopted social Darwinism and were all for engineering society to fit their outlook. Birth control was a means to an end.

    Just for fun, google Margret Sanger; Eugenics. It's some intense shit

    [–]WHY111 9 points10 points  (6 children)

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    For example Planned Parenthood was created by Margret Sanger to provide abortions to black women so America would be more racially pure.

    [–]IMissOsama 8 points9 points  (5 children)

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    Is that implied or is there a source for that?

    [–]WHY111 7 points8 points  (4 children)

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    "Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race." - April 1932 Birth Control Review, pg. 108

    "We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." - Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.

    “The main objectives of the [proposed] Population Congress is to…apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is already tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring.” – Margaret Sanger, “Plan for Peace”, 1932 Senate hearings

    Even today about 80% of abortion clinics are in minority neighborhoods.

    [–]Canadian_Infidel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    Poor neighborhoods. People still think like this and they think it equally of poor people of any race or creed.

    [–]IMissOsama 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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    Holy shit that's blatant. Just to be perfectly clear, feminists look up to this woman?

    [–]WHY111 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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    [–]mothcock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    Communists too.

    [–]youngpunx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    Makes femi-nazi a more credible insult.

    [–]Piroko 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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    Jawohl!

    [–]Manuel_S 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    Why, whats the problem? It's been done before.

    What was it... eugenics? Somewhere in europe, it wasn't gender, it was some racial stuff... whatever, thats old news. This is made by women, and therefore right and non-aggressive and gender-positive.

    Down with uber-patriarch ubermensch, let us join together to create a gender-equal maleified fem-male. Easy, there's already so many pussies that happened to have been born with an organ of oppression, we're already 56.2% there.

    I'm all for it. Equality uber alles. Stop being reactionary, comrades. We shall all become equal, like it or not.

    P.S.

    How can you best invest in cat food and accessories? Any RP hedge fund out there?

    [–]IM_PRETTY_RACIST 4 points5 points  (6 children)

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    Hey eugenics wasn't so bad.

    [–]icanteventhecat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    Just like creation science!

    [–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 98 points99 points  (54 children)

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    I fucking weep for any country that actually takes this shit on board. What a waste of time and energy. Feminism needs to die already, looks like this sick, perverted ideology is not going to down without a fight. They're probably getting scared as more and more people, men and women alike, are beginning to boycott feminism.

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      [–]Lightning14 2 points3 points  (5 children)

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      I know I'm not alone when saying this, but I would not be in this subreddit if it weren't for feminists.

      Weird, but I rarely ever came across the term feminist before I came to TRP and saw so much discussion about it. I always just associated it with the civil right movements of the 20th century from when I was led to believe that women were 2nd class citizens. And that it no longer a movement people identified with. I understand now how many feminist principles have become so ingrained in normal society. I'm just confused where all of you guys are running into self-proclaimed feminists.

      [–]Leonard_Church 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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      Most of the people on this subreddit (and reddit in general) are University age. That means that a large proportion of women that they meet are going to be progressive and radically liberal, while trying to display an intellectual persona. Feminism appeals to people who try and cultivate that subculture, men and women included.

      [–]vaporfarts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      The modern iteration of feminists I believe is called "3rd wave" to differentiate it from the ones of the early 20th century.

      [–]Gallente_One 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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      Hit the proverbial nail on the head. Have an up vote

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        [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (32 children)

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        In modern day feminism, I see an ideology that is creating to a huge rift between sides. There is hardly a middle ground anymore, just radical fems and people (like RPers) who are essentially on the complete other end of the spectrum. Things are going to get VERY interesting in the next few years imo

        [–]Canadian_Infidel 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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        RPers are not on the other end of the spectrum. People who keep women as slaves from birth to death are on the other end of spectrum.

        [–]RojoEscarlata 4 points5 points  (4 children)

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        I'm suspecting that all this bullshit degrees like gender studies, and now femenist biology are ways to get the lower denominator into university and debt.

        I mean, the degrees are bullshits, but I bet it ain't cheap.

        Props to the people who are able to profit from the stupidity of people.

        [–]Xiudo 2 points3 points  (3 children)

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        Take solace brother. she will be in massive debt for a worthless degree.

        [–]RojoEscarlata 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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        I mean, what job could you even get with a bullshits degree like that?

        [–]Xiudo 6 points7 points  (1 child)

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        Feminist Biology teacher

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        That evoked a IRL LOL

        [–]AlchemyPhoenix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        In my experience, these types of programs and the people who run them have tremendous influence on college campuses, but ultimately accomplish little in industry. The most anyone will be able to bilk out of this is a tenured position as what basically amounts to a job as a pundit at a university. No one who gets a degree in "feminist biology" (or "MRA biology" or "Marxist biology" or anything other than just "biology") is ever going to get a job outside of Starbucks. These graduates will spend their entire careers competing with 5000 fellow feminist biology PhDs for the same 12 academic job openings.

        [–]1pcadrian 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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        It's happening at Wisconsin-Madison, of all places. This is some scary shit.

        [–]brave_sir_fapsalot 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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        That's what surprised me the most. Not some tiny lib arts school in the north east, but a large and relatively prestigious public research university.

        [–]HahahahaWaitWhat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        I dunno man. I find the notion that the people who will spend their time and effort on this could be meaningfully contributing to real science to be dubious at best. It's going to compete with astrology and women's studies. Who cares? Oh, but it might take some hard core feminists out of politics. Our loss, I'm sure.

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          [–]1Watermelon_Salesman 28 points29 points  (1 child)

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          Blame post-modernist thought.

          [–]cookiecutterbullshit 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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          where EVERYTHING "depends on your perspective". 2+2 = 5

          [–]1Hyooge 9 points10 points  (0 children)

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          This drives me mad. In "discussions" with girls about feminism/gender divide I am presumed wrong if I state logical fact just because it can be offensive (to easily offended people...). Emotional opinions are almost always garbage and is pretty much the counter-argument I always receive.

          Emotional outburst =/= Biological fact.

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            [–]Xiudo 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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            Age of Reason I thought the age of reason was a massive return to Biblical studies?

            [–]16 Endorsed ContributorCyralea 12 points13 points  (1 child)

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            Feminism is essentially the philosophy that opinions equal facts.

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            Not quite. Feminism posits that facts are situated, which is a Marxist word synonymous with 'subjective'. The truth of the statement is contingent upon the person making the declaration, not reality. Hence facts declared by white males are 'oppression' while facts declared by black females are 'progress', etc.

            It's like saying opinions equal facts, but with the caveat that some people aren't allowed to have opinions.

            [–]biffsocko 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            don't worry about it. I love STEM because you're either right or you're wrong. If they've found people to waste their time following up on foolishness, that's ok. Real science prevails, to the chagrin of feminists like this.

            For example, If one is to believe that "E=MC2" is a "sexed equation" because of privilege, that's fine - go build an atomic bomb in some equation that makes you feel more comfortable. In the meantime, the rest of us will just use this until you come up with something else. Good Luck!

            [–]EducatedCavemen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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            too late, astrology is a thing.

            [–]ImBloodyAnnoyed 13 points14 points  (0 children)

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            "I know it is the fashion to say that most of recorded history is lies anyway. I am willing to believe that history is for the most part inaccurate and biased, but what is peculiar to our own age is the abandonment of the idea that history could be truthfully written. In the past people deliberately lied, or they unconsciously coloured what they wrote, or they struggled after the truth, well knowing that they must make many mistakes; but in each case they believed that ‘facts’ existed and were more or less discoverable. And in practice there was always a considerable body of fact which would have been agreed to by almost everyone. If you look up the history of the last war in, for instance, the Encyclopaedia Britannica, you will find that a respectable amount of the material is drawn from German sources. A British and a German historian would disagree deeply on many things, even on fundamentals, but there would still be that body of, as it were, neutral fact on which neither would seriously challenge the other. It is just this common basis of agreement, with its implication that human beings are all one species of animal, that totalitarianism destroys. Nazi theory indeed specifically denies that such a thing as ‘the truth’ exists. There is, for instance, no such thing as ‘Science’. There is only ‘German Science’, ‘Jewish Science’, etc. The implied objective of this line of thought is a nightmare world in which the Leader, or some ruling clique, controls not only the future but the past. If the Leader says of such and such an event, ‘It never happened’ — well, it never happened. If he says that two and two are five — well, two and two are five. This prospect frightens me much more than bombs — and after our experiences of the last few years that is not a frivolous statement."

            • George Orwell, 'Looking back on the Spanish War'

            [–][deleted] 47 points48 points  (11 children)

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            Calling her a "biologist" makes this seem a bit curious, indeed. It would be more correct to state that she's an anthropologist studying female hominids. I don't see how approaching science with a predetermined ideology helps in the process, but I can see how revisiting anthropological results is useful. The field is quite old and relies too heavily on speculation, in the past even more so than today.

            Taking a different approach may actually give some interesting new hypotheses and interpretations of findings. Remember, science is peer reviewed. She's not going to go off on some limb and claim batshit crazy things and then get them published. It's a safe bet that anything which does get published as actual, scientific merit.

            [–]SovereignsUnknown 19 points20 points  (8 children)

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            yeah, i think they're in for a shocker when they realize how much higher standards science journals have for content compared to social science journals.
            i'll be amazed if they manage a single paper

            [–]Kyrzar 11 points12 points  (4 children)

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            This is dangerous though. Since some science journals do simply let whatever gets handed to them, get published. I'll try to find a source, but if I recall there was a post about it a couple weeks ago about someone who made an obviously fake report and it was published anyway.

            Source

            [–]thedarkerside 5 points6 points  (3 children)

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            Well yeah, they could also just launch their own science journal (as did the bigfoot guys).

            Having said that. Almost every field has one or two "reference" magazines, and I doubt very much they will just let it go through. Nature, Science etc. see themselves as gate keepers and they spend a lot of resources on "getting it right".

            So by and large I don't think this will go anywhere beyond the "Creationist" realm, meaning, being annoying to real biologists but not going to change the way the world works. Or at least I hope I am right.

            [–]Kyrzar 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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            Oh, I agree completely with this. However... The people who aren't likely to agree are feminists and people who aren't as knowledgeable about or less likely to understand the scientific method. All it takes is one article "women are just men with their penises cut off at birth" to spark an entire generation of batshit insane bitches cutting off their babies members and spouting false science as fact.

            [–]thedarkerside 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            less likely to understand the scientific method

            Point, that would be the vast majority of people, unfortunately.

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            If they don't get published then they'll just claim sexism and misogyny.

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            They'll get published, and call misogyny on dissent....It's a sad and disgusting world

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            Incoming enslavement of the masculine male.

            Call crazy, strip rights.Medicate

            Rinse, repeat on next male victim.

            All in the name of mental illness and the APA

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            She's not looking to write scientific articles, she's trying to police current scientific study by deeming any dissenting fact as containing "gender bias".

            [–]betagenic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            This. Saying that peer review will preserve science is absurd when we're talking about someone becoming a peer reviewer.

            [–]notnotnotfred 22 points23 points  (32 children)

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            Richard Dawkins

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1pJ8vYxL3Q

            Newton's Principia is a rape manual.

            Solid mechanics is privileged over fluid mechanics. bc men get solids.

            "e=Mc2 is a sexed equation" bc privilege

            [–]randomkloud 8 points9 points  (4 children)

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            to expand (i just read about this couple days back):

            e=Mc2 is misogynist because it prioritises the speed of light over all other speeds.

            couple of relevant links someone else posted here before: http://isteve.blogspot.com/2012/12/intellectual-discourse-taking.html

            https://arts.uwaterloo.ca/~kwesthue/regiftedxmas12.html

            [–]varisforge 6 points7 points  (3 children)

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            It doesn't set the speed of light as the fastest speed. It pegs the speed of light to the speed of time and information, and as we all know time favors men and men work better with concrete information so E=MC2 is a blatantly and inherently patriarchal construct.

            Just because womyn benefit from the mathematical formula derived from it for everything from GPS to cell phone communications to whatever else it has achieved, allowing them greater relaxation and more ability to talk with one another over vast distances doesn't mean that it's not oppressing them.

            (Maybe not obvious sarcasm but /s)

            [–]cuntbh 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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            Off-topic

            It doesn't set the speed of light as the fastest speed.

            My understanding of special relativity is that nothing in an inertial frame of reference can move faster than light does in a vacuum. That is to say, the speed of a particle relative to the space around it cannot exceed 3*1028 ms-1

            At least, this an indirect affect of it, as mass increases with speed.

            [–]miscmantheman 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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            Relative to another inertial frame of reference, not to the space around it. "Relative to space" is meaningless. c = 3e8 m/s as well, not 28.

            [–]cuntbh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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            I was trying to explain it as if you weren't competent in physics.

            I'm a physics student, and I don't even tell people the correct value of c. I know it is 108 , I was just being stupid.

            [–]IIHotelYorba 28 points29 points  (3 children)

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            ...They're actually calling it feminist biology. Mother of god.

            Christmas came early boys.

            -Christian science

            -Chinese medicine

            -Feminist biology

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              [–]IIHotelYorba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              Haha! I did. The fuhrer would be proud these ladies are taking up the fight against Jewish biology.

              [–]johngalt1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              "Christian Science" is a heresy. What they teach ain't biblical.

              [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil 8 points9 points  (3 children)

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              In the Soviet Union the elite didn't like the study of economics so they created Soviet Economics. As you can guess Soviet economics was a bunch of bullshit, because it wasnt empirical. The whole point of Soviet economics was to play with numbers and statistics in an effort to justify the top-down bureaucratic system and discredit the Laissez faire approach.

              Combining a social movement with science has been done before many times. Its fucking retarded beyond comprehension. If these feminist had any awareness of history or the world in general they wouldn't pull this kind of nonsense. But of course they don't. They don't care. All they care about is feelings and not getting offended. Which is why they don't belong in science in the first place.

              [–]thedarkerside 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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              Soviet economics was a bunch of bullshit, because it wasnt empirical.

              I wouldn't call "Western Economics" empirical either. Economics is a very very soft science, working with oversimplified models. Every time their model doesn't play out (after destroying a few billion or ruining some people's lives) they say: "oops, let's try this.".

              They are on par with Gender Studies and the other social sciences, namely: Making shit up while pretending they somehow have hard facts.

              (Yeah yeah downvote me, but I challenge you to find me anything in economics that actually follows the proper scientific methods. Philosophy is more rigorous in their attempts to explain the world than economics is).

              [–]watersign 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              I agree. It's a degree for people who didn't want to become accountants lol

              [–]coffeetablesex 15 points16 points  (6 children)

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              can someone explain to me how feminism isn't sexism?

              [–]smokeybehr 21 points22 points  (5 children)

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              Impossible, because feminism is sexism. Anything favoring one sex over another for arbitrary reasons is sexist.

              [–]ATLracing 1 point2 points  (4 children)

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              Depends on the form of feminism. It's a broadly defined term, but it generally describes a movement that attempts to break down social barriers facing many women, which, sorry to say, is not sexism.

              [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (9 children)

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              When (Caroline) begins the two-year fellowship in September, she will study the pelvic shape of female human ancestors to gain insight on childbirth anatomy over the course of human evolution.

              I wonder where the part about wymyn's oppression comes in.

              [–]MrsStrom 10 points11 points  (6 children)

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              Some of the women's medical studies do need to be done. Men and women are biologically different. Medications affect us differently. We have different signs/symptoms for heart attacks!

              Which leads me to my mini-rant: I'm sick and tired of breast cancer awareness. Heart disease is the single biggest killer of women because women don't know the signs/symptoms. All that money that's going to breast cancer awareness should be going to educate men and women of the signs/symptoms of both genders!

              [–]orographic 19 points20 points  (1 child)

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              Breast cancer awareness isn't about treating breast cancer, it's a huge money generating industry.

              [–]SigmaMu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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              And it's a huge money generating industry because sex sells. Putting a big pink ribbon eblazoned with "BREAST CANCER AWARENESS" on a bag of M&Ms in the closest you can get to just slapping a pair of tits on there. Similar principle with "rape culture". Feminists can't outright accuse Blurred Lines of contributing to rape, that's plainly ludicrous even to the layman. But accuse it of contributing to rape culture, and suddenly the smear sticks, Robin Thicke must be stopped, DJs playing his song must be fired, and sluts must be walked in protest.

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              A cardiologist did an AMA thread a couple months ago and went into detail about how all of the recent research into heart disease has been done on women. She expressed disgust at the lack of attention paid to research on men's heart disease.

              Feminism is the last thing we need in science and medicine. We need to focus more on male health and dissemination of health related information to the public. We need to stop focusing so much on female health.

              [–]Heuristics 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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              As someone who works in a research group for heart imaging with MR cameras I would also say that very little research appears targeted at actually solving much of anything, it's mostly a game of what the researcher find most fun to work on. Naturally conferences somewhere warm halfway around the world is most fun so that gets top priority.

              [–]grelknar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              signs/symptoms of both genders

              Sexes. Biology doesn't give a shit what phenotype you think you are.

              [–]orographic 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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              That sounds like a legit research topic. Can't wait to see how they inject "feminist science" into it

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              I'm sure they've told her to tone down the crazy feminist shit until they can gain some credibility. Next year is when they'll begin injecting "women have it so bad and deserve more resources!" into every single topic.

              [–]biffsocko 6 points7 points  (4 children)

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              University of Wisconsin has just lost its reputation

              [–]Redpiller456 1 point2 points  (3 children)

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              National rankings beg to differ. Top 10 rankings in a few scientific programs (2nd in biochemistry) and top 20 in many more.

              I doubt any scientists here endorse this crap. This sounds like a social department program and is very likely not taken seriously by anyone in an actual science.

              [–]17 Endorsed ContributorWhisper 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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              I'm not actually surprised.

              I was raised as a flaming left-winger in a rightwing community. And I embraced it at first, because I despise smug, underthinking self-assuredness, and I was constantly being exposed to the rightwing variety of it.

              But there was a moment that I realized communism was crap. That moment happened when I was reading the story of a Chinese dissident who had eventually been diagnosed by their state health system with a mental disorder. There was apparently a note in his chart, put there by some psychiatrist, that he had "failed to adjust to Socialist reality".

              Not "reality".

              Socialist reality.

              The moment when you think the universe shares your prescriptive ideology, or needs to... you fail forever. The universe doesn't care about "should". The universe just is.

              [–]Endorsed ContributorVZPurp 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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              Burn it to the ground.

              [–]BouRayZa 4 points5 points  (15 children)

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              What is lysenkoism?

              [–]3 Endorsed ContributorSkorchZang 10 points11 points  (2 children)

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              There was a man named Lysenko that duped the entire Soviet Union back in the day, with an "alternative" theory he said could produce amazing gains in wheat production. It turned out to produce nothing, besides embarrassment for all involved. Lysenkoism = crackpot science.

              [–]BouRayZa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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              Thanks, I thought that wikibot would provide a definition if I pose the question.

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              Seems quite fitting:

              Hermann Joseph Muller (and his teachings about genetics) was criticized as a bourgeois, capitalist, imperialist, and promoting fascism so he left the USSR, to return to the USA via Republican Spain. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism#Repercussions

              [–]thredditsowaway 3 points4 points  (3 children)

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              "Feminist physics"
              "Feminist chemistry"
              "Feminist medicine"

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              That last one sounds especially dangerous

              [–]varisforge 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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              Future billboards if "feminist Medicine" takes the forefront of medical science:

              "My doctor recommends castration as an antidepressant. Does yours? Find out what castration can do for you."

              Also:

              "Make a difference. Amputate your penis."

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                The fact that women have monthly menstrual cycles proves men and women are biologically different. That's a big part of the reason we have different drives and motivations. This is TRP at its most basic level.

                [–]lol_What_Is_Effort 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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                This is just inexplicably stupid

                [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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                "Post Doctorate"

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                Wonder if they'll let me do a postdoc in Eugenics.

                [–]memetherapy 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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                I'm not going to rewrite the relevant comment I left in an MRA thread about about philosophy teachers being accused of sexism... but here's the copy/paste. I thought you guys might appreciate my anecdote...

                "I go to McGill in Montreal. I love philosophy, so decided to pursue a double major in Cognitive Science, one of the majors being philosophy. Can confirm the feminist nonsense is taking hold there too. Accusations of sexism are somehow more relevant to "truth" than exposing reductio ad absurdums. The postmodernist gibberish is alive in, I'd say, at least a quarter of the philosophy students. Meanwhile, I'm also pursuing a Psychology major with a strong bend towards neuro and languages. Here too I encounter a slightly different issue, but with the same cause. Sex differences are often overtly ignored and dismissed by exaggerating possible issues or confounding variables... as if that isn't the case with all studies... ignoring the concept of converging evidence.

                I shit you not... this is how a Psych major attempts to ignore obvious sex differences.

                Me: "Isn't it interesting that women have consistently larger vocabularies than men across different cultures? Maybe that could be related to the difference in white/grey matter ratios between the sexes? (Men have more grey matter AKA neurons... women have more white matter AKA axons)"

                Young seemingly intelligent lady: "But that's probably just cultural?"

                Me: "Maybe... it could be. That doesn't imply the correlation is meaningless. It's, if anything, more interesting if it's all cultural... and can provide new evidence as to how the brain acquires concepts and words for those concepts"

                Young lady: "Well, I don't really trust those studies. Boys and girls are raised differently."

                Me: "Well... that's beside the point, but either way, it would be hard to dismiss all genetic sex differences... shouldn't the base assumption be that we're likely innately different since we have a whole chromosome that's different? I mean, they consistently find that young male infants are better than infant girls at 3D object rotation. And girls consistently acquire language skills faster than boys. Why would you assume our brains are exactly the same if the same genes that control their development also control our physical development? I hope you'd agree boys and girls are genetically programmed to develop physically in different ways."

                Young lady: "No! rolls eyes That's obviously cultural. Boys are allowed to exercise and get stronger."

                Flabbergasted me: "So, are you saying we're not a sexually dimorphic species? Why would we be any different from all the other sexually dimorphic species in which males are physically stronger?"

                Lady: "Um... even in animals, boys and girls are treated differently growing up"

                Me: "OKAY? Bye."

                Give them another 10 years of not being called stupid and these people will start campaigns against female worker ants conditions. What is this, feminism for ants???"

                [–]scallopkid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                It needs to be at least... three times stupider!

                [–]stalinbaby 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                Those who are proposing that are simply scammers. They're taking money people are offering them on the promise of giving back bullshit results. I can only pitty the idiots who will try to enter that research line.

                [–]blahbleblah2 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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                We also need more creationist biologists to combat all that evolution nonsense.

                Nah, what we need is more pseudo-intellectuals who get their science from blog articles which gather information from researchers who were publicly denounced for bad science in an issued statement signed by 68 of their peers.

                Blindly believing blog articles as long as they affirm your world view is nothing at all like what you're criticizing, as long as it's you doing it, right?

                I'm sure when you cited that Psychology Today blog as a "peer-reviewed study," and failed to actually provide peer-reviewed research, it was because you're a real science enthusiast.

                [–]johngalt1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                Peer review is inferior to replication.

                [–]symko 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                Someone should have told feminists the issues that climate changers are dealing with. The last thing they expected was multitudes of people suddenly 180'ing from "settled science."

                This is a great day though, when a movement constantly has to redefine itself to gain an advantage they are usually written off.

                [–]bh3244 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                reminds me of the woman who tried to create feminist predicate logic. Where things are both true and false

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                The moment they put a lens over science is the moment it stopped being science.

                It will also disprove anything they try to prove, since obviously there will be confirmation bias, and blindness of reality.

                [–]BAlanR 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                I worry that this kind of thing will catch on. Feminist zeal generally seems to be accepted as a politically correct standpoint, especially among politians seeking public favor. There are enough problems faced by the scientific endeavour of the human race without another dark age of scientific repression.

                The wikipedia rewrites died (I think), but how many attempts will feminists make before it catches on?

                Feminism crusades againts men, not for equality. Just look at the "teach men not to rape" campaign. Do you think that it will stop there if they gain a foothold in scientific research?

                Much like France during the industrial era, imagine having to run a new invention or theory past a feminist board for approval before release?

                Would it be viable for them to villify a gender based on junk science and decree men all need to be chemically neutered to 'protect women'? Psychological indoctrination into feminist concepts from the earliest age? - It seems a stretch but more sinister concepts have taken root throughout history without political or main stream backing.

                There are plenty of 'research teams' that will hand out skewed test results and shonky studies to pharmaceutical companies for money. With feminisim fitting the bill this will be no different. They will be able to say what they want, and pretend it's fact. And with feminism considered 'PC' they will not want for budget.

                I hope that with the more outlandish statements made by feminist activists every day, people will begin to back away from it as it visibly shows itself as the hate group that it is.

                [–]RAWR-Chomp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                Wait. They aim to fight gender bias in biology by adding a gender bias to the study of biology? This can't be a real thing.

                [–]vereonix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                Biology is science, not opinion... You can't just go oh I think this because of my option on an irrelevant subject. No biology is a science, it is how it is, and your views don't change it.

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                Holy. shit.

                I thought this was a joke when I read this article. This is the type of material you would read on The Onion.

                This is probably the vaguest thing I've ever read because even after reading the article, I don't really understand what "feminist biology" even is. Investigating the evolution of the pelvic region of human ancestors to understand how child rearing may have progressed over time? That's science, and that's fine. I don't understand why feminism needs to be brought into it.

                Eliminating the gender bias in biology? As a biochemist, I wasn't aware such a bias existed. In fact, there is federal infrastructure that is designed specifically to address bias in awarding grant money. For example, based on race or gender. Another objective of such programs is to figure out how to incorporate more research from these underrepresented groups.

                Frankly, this is insulting to women who are in scientific fields.

                [–]neutron_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                I can't wait to see women competing men in olympics.

                [–]1wakethfkupneo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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                Here's my uneducated biological opinion: feminism is the leukemia of the society. It's unapologetically destructive, spreads everywhere with the final result being killing the organism as a whole and consequently self destruction.

                [–]bassivemalls 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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                Looking at science through a feminist lens allows old questions to be observed in new ways, she said.

                Yes, but the whole point of science is that you look at the facts from a detached, objective viewpoint. In science, admitting you are going to have a strong bias when interpreting results immediately discredits any conclusion you make.

                These fucking dumb cunts are going make some scientific breakthroughs, yeah right. Won't don't you just stick with women's gender studies, honey.

                [–]BaconCheeseBurger 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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                Math has for to long oppressed women by being hard to do in my opinion.

                Laughed out loud on that one.

                I have no words to even expressed how stupid feminist biology is. I can only shake my head in disgust.

                [–]LadyLumen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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                Reminds me of Creationism. Unhappy that science doesn't support your point of view? Create your own science! Goodbye objectivity!

                [–]randomkloud 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                Hyde said they hope to make advances in approaches to science that detect gender bias in traditional biology and also pioneer new approaches to biological research that counteract those biases.

                looks like the outcome of their research has been determined before it even began. do they know the definition of a hypothesis?

                [–]17 Endorsed ContributorArchwinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                "While your qualifications are impressive, we have decided to interview other candidates who better meet our needs at this time."

                "But I have a PhD in woman's biology! I got a 4.0 GPA!"

                "We're studying DNA from gram positive bacteria, not human females."

                "That's what I'm talking about! Why is it even called Graham! That's a man's name! Bacteria can be studied by anybody!"

                [–]biffsocko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                While most of you are upset by how stupid this stuff is - it's actually beneficial. I was never able to interview someone for a job and ask things like: "Do you believe in God"? or "What is your take on religion"? To me the religious version of God is the adult version of believing in Santa Clause. I don't want to work or hire people like that, but I'm not allowed to ask that kind of question. I CAN however ask about what they think about new fields like Feminist Biology and what kinds of scientific contributions they feel it will make.

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                In feminism there is no such thing as biology, everything is a social construct.

                [–]Pecanpig 1 point2 points  (5 children)

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                I'll bring the popcorn if someone else brings the lawn chairs.

                [–]varisforge 0 points1 point  (4 children)

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                Cheap much? You need to throw some brewskies into the deal, dude.

                [–]Gold_Leaf_Initiative 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                Do they actually say anything concrete about what is wrong with the current science? Like something factual I can sink my teeth into? The article doesn't feel like it's saying very much.

                [–]watersign 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                Unfucking believeable. "Thought crime"

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                "A man discovered how mitochondria work. But that man was probably a sexist shitlord. If he were a feminist he would have let a woman discover it."

                That's how I'm imagining this...

                [–]CouldntFindGudName 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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                They have been doing this for a while now, the work in a group. Look at github (iirc) they are making feminist friendly software or something. I don't even want to know what it means.

                They changed the word women to womyn, because they didn't want anything to do with men.

                They work together and rewrite history. They organize mass wikipedia edits in order to write what women have contributed. There are now paragraphs and paragraphs of nothing but self praise with generally dodgy source links.

                What surprises me (maybe i admire) is that they are united in this. They work like a unit. While men will fight among themselves, or won't look at these problems because they have more important things to do.

                This will continue for some time until it hits a tipping point, then some men will snap and reclaim everything and women's position will go back to square one, either that or a calamity. That usually puts the gender roles in place.

                Yes what feminist are doing is a dirty practice, but that's what they have been doing for a long time. How insecure and unsatisfied do you have to be with yourself that you need to rewrite solid science to meet your views.

                I am not angry, nor concerned, nor jelly. I am going to grab my popcorn, do what I always do,instead of changing others i improve myself. They are going on a path of destruction. This just accelerated it.

                [–]csmass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                No need to try to justify yourself. You are correct sir. Soon enough men will take back their claim. Afterall, it is men that gave women their rights, and men that can take them away. If they were smart, they would shut up already and enjoy what they have.

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                Interesting. The last place I'm used to running into feminists is in the hard sciences. Honestly though, as a chemist I would be completely fascinated to watch someone TRY to integrate feminism into chemistry. Really, what could someone possibly hope to achieve? Too much chemistry named for men - clearly meant to keep women down. Major reactions named for male discovers should be renamed in hopes of not further discouraging female scientists. ... and now I'm worried.

                [–]BrazenBull00R 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                Look up C+=

                [–]trpalternate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                Approaching science with a Feminist viewpoint

                If you're approaching science with any viewpoint, you're doing it wrong from the get-go. Science dispassionately looks at the data and draws conclusions from observable facts. That's it.

                Trying to prove pre-concieved ideas by "interpreting" facts is as far away from science as you can get. They'll fit in well with the Creationists trying to prove that the Earth is 6,000 years old.

                [–]Espiritu13 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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                For anyone wondering, this is par for the course in Madison. They live in their own little world where things like this can live. Once it attempts to applicable in the real world it will fall apart. Madison lives on it's own little planet and the rest of Wisconsin is kind of afraid of it.

                [–]MockingDead 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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                This is spot on. Madison is in this weird bubble, everything exists for the university. Any reasonable or intelligent people are shipped to the caption mines or ignored out of the place.

                [–]Espiritu13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                Which is why I always call it "Planet Madison" and then proceed to tell them that everything makes sense only in their world. I always try to explain how they should just stay there so they don't get scared when someone else disagrees with them.

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                "Newton's Principia Mathematica is a Rape Manual" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1pJ8vYxL3Q

                [–]NoFatChicks88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                Honestly, I love seeing this kind of news. It really helps show the world how god damned stupid feminism is. I've also noticed that RedPill threads are starting to show up on the front page now. Men's Rights is gaining more traction and people are starting to wake up and address the issues.

                [–]veyron1001 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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                Feminist biology is in its self biased. Where as biology looks at both genders.

                [–]vaporfarts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                "Unusology", it should be called.

                [–]RedSpectrum 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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                Shit like this is only going to promote more bias. Science is science, facts are facts. Don't like it? Too bad.

                Christian creationists have the Creation Museum based on unfounded science, if you can even call it that. Expect these feminist biologists to have their own little museum/conference/center if what they study and publish goes unchecked or gets a fast start. hopefully accreditation shoots them down and science journals refuse to publish their bullshit.

                Edit: its a post doc program, so idk if accreditation can do anything about it. ahh the feminist downvote brigade has arrived.

                [–]FrostyGoingHisOwnWay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                I'd love to see what Dawkins has to say about this, I suspect he'd intellectually shame this pretty hard and fast, it's an educational disgrace that this exists.

                [–]Endorsed ContributorAerobus 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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                Soon we can have feminist physics

                "Class, we will not be covering Einstein's e=mc2. It's sexist. Class dismissed. "

                [–]varisforge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                Next class:

                Gravity is the "man"ifestation of universal creepiness, because just like men gravity is holding us down.

                Now we are going to research how to shame the universe into letting us fly.

                [–]Buchloe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                Gravity is rape. Force and velocity are forceful sex terms. Mass and volume are fat shaming.

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                Feminism and science go together like a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup and shit.

                [–]rebuildingMyself 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                Just think. When Hildog becomes president, this will be a mandatory department in all public universities. No such thing as separation between the Cathedral and State.

                [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                This course should be called "How to Propagandize Science Into False Theory"

                Or

                "How to Self-Righteously Destroy The Scientific Method"

                [–]Dreamtrain 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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                Feminist lens? Science is not a fucking book full of poems to be interpreted, it is a factual thing, there's no such thing as a lens, there is only simply observable, reproduceable results.

                [–]Crackerjacksurgeon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                "Reproductive sex is gang rape, because the eggs (that are obviously girls) are too young to give consent to the sperm that violate and penetrate them"

                Bam, 'feminist lens'

                [–]1Watermelon_Salesman 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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                They're probably following the steps of Luce Irigaray.

                [–]x7CR7x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                Can't wait for Roissy to see this.

                [–]Miamiheat87 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                "there are certain assumptions about men, women, objectivity and knowledge that influence how science is often done"

                Science is using the fucking science method and has nothing to do with that!

                [–]dave_is_not_here 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                there are certain assumptions about men, women, objectivity and knowledge that influence how science is often done

                Yea, that fully objective scientific method that relies on evidence to create knowledge is just oppressive....

                [–]cooltrip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                They might get a Nobel one day.

                Wait! No! the Nobel Academy is sexist! Most Science Nobels go to men!

                [–]ScannerSloppy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                Would students actually get science credits for these classes, just like it was an actual science class?

                [–]SiickNastikillr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                I'm glad I chose to not apply there then. "Bullet Dodged"

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                my.head.just.exploded. im now as dumb as these idiots.

                [–]vanzant38 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                This is why ETs won't contact us.

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                  [–]cascadecombo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  But they will bitch and moan and whine and lobby until they are guaranteed a spot because of "equality" despite whatever absurdity of their works.

                  [–]SSolus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  Didnt the Nazi's try to do something like this, with their whole "aryan" race being superior

                  [–]Dishmayhem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  the bitterness is strong with this one

                  [–]cascadecombo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  gender bias in traditional biology

                  Here is what I do not completely understand. Bias is to give something preferential treatment over the other something. In biology males and females are treated differently because they are, wait for it, different. Why do they want to counteract the beautiful difference in men and women, I sure as hell do not want to be skirt chasing some guy, do these feminists want to be pursued by a land whale?

                  [–]SaxualTigre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  Another step in their regime to take over; too bad they don't have the capacity for such a thing directly so they work through indoctrination. It's up to us educated about them and other people against feminism to stop it, between this and the facebook nonbinary genders, tumblr sjws are getting their way and it's a bit scary.

                  [–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  this is just laughable.

                  [–]19 Endorsed Contributordrrrrrr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  Back in college I remember my friends and I would always joke about how this totally would become a thing. And I guess... it will.

                  I think that this will finally be the moment where intellectuals / academia just finally go ahead and admit that there is no such thing as objectivity / objective knowledge is no longer the ideal for academic pursuits. Hell, I was a liberal arts kid and my classes were more objective than this horseshit.

                  In a perfect world, this is the moment where universities kick back against the bullshit agendas they've been pushing for the last twenty years. In some reality out there, the Harvard board of trustees is calling up Larry Summers and apologizing for booting him because he commented on a controversial, but highly interesting and (in my understanding) well done study that produced results that feminists didn't want to hear.

                  This is more moronic than evolution. Theology and biblical literature is at least interesting; I know a creationist, like an honest to god the world is 4000 years young type of moron, and he never fails to entertain. At worst, his ideas are solid scifi / fantasy plotlines, and much of his religion is quite RP. It is rooted in more reality than this idea of "feminist biology". And at least this guy has the intellectual honesty to just say it - "I don't believe in science." Just say it, why the charade?

                  "I want to spend grad school learning about the extension of what I studied in undergrad (the easiest mandatory science / math classes, with gender studies, women's lit, soft psychology courses, and philosophy electives). But of course, I don't want this to be considered by everyone to be a massive waste of time and money. So please name it something legit and start a social movement about it. Make it sound science-y, so we are more employable, but please no real science, nobody got time for that!"

                  [–]byte8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  As a current student, I just don't want you guys judging UW on this. We're a large ass school and with that comes compartmentalization and non-heriarchical oversight (e.g.: deans of specific programs don't really report to anyone, each college within the university does whatever the fuck they want.) This is not indicative of the quality of our school, but instead represents a small sector in the college of letters and science that wants to feel like they're doing something sociopolitically relevant. Our engineering and hard science fields are all laughing at this.

                  [–]Theophagist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  Looking at science through a feminist lens

                  So she literally says she wants to put an ideological spin on a practice of facts and evidence. How could anyone smart enough to put those words together be stupid enough to say them?

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                  I'm just going to chime in on this because I have a little bit of insight. I am currently a postdoctoral fellow at a university.

                  1) This isn't a degree granting program. A postdoc is a job. This is a postdoctoral fellowship and will fund one postdoc. The financial commitment will be between $150,000-$250,000 over three years. Given the funding source, it may be even less than this, and supplemented with funding from other sources.

                  2) The typical time a postdoc will spend in such a program is about 3 years. Postdoc contracts are generally given in 1 year increments.

                  3) This isn't an academic program, this will fund one person's existing research in biology. The specific research here will focus on female biology. If there's a feminist angle, it will be something like, "Women were as tall and strong as men, but their domestic social role caused these changes."

                  4) Everyone's always looking for more sources of funding. If a women's studies department offered me funding, I'd take it.

                  5) The postdoc in question probably will not start to adopt questionable research methods at this point in her career. She has nothing to gain from that. She'll still be doing bio.

                  I'm all for the Red Pill bit, but you guys are misunderstanding what this is.

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                  That's a fairly succinct description, I'm obviously unaware of this system. Good to know.

                  [–]rockjock29 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  Thank you for posting this. As a person that chose to not go the PhD route and make money instead (stopped at MS) I can support this explanation. Still seems like a sketchy position, but post docs can be sluts for money.

                  [–]Nemester 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  The cathedral is completely delusional. What won't they try.