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[–]Enisei 197 points198 points  (7 children)

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He is not a nice guy, he is just weak. Time to wake up and smell the roses. She just stole 6,000 dollars. Also the people defending this woman is just sick.

[–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 50 points51 points  (0 children)

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Amazing this sails over people's heads.

She gamed him out of an expensive vacation.

[–]JustTruthful 29 points30 points  (2 children)

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In what kind of a privileged ivory tower you have to live in to think this is ok? Imagine a girlfriend buying me a $6000 car and me dumping her on the next day. And then people would defend my actions? Wtf??? I fucking hate women like her and I might hate even more the whiteknight idiots. I just can't believe what goes on in their heads.

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    [–]angeliswastaken 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I remember when Jessica Simpson bought Tony Roma a boat for his birthday and he broke up with her at the end of the same week. Shit hit the fan.

    [–]dancingwithcats 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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    He should be taking her to court to recoup the money.

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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    Except, the family paid back her share etc...

    He's taking the high road.

    [–]laere 249 points250 points  (14 children)

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    This bitch is about to turn that vagina into a UN conference.

    I would have instantly sent that bitch back on a flight home, and just enjoyed myself alone there. Hit up some cute chicks, and probably forget she even existed the second I drill into some of that euro booty.

    [–]MooMooMooN 143 points144 points  (3 children)

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    "What are you doing here?"

    "My ex just dumped me so I sent her ass home"

    "Ah.. you vant to party vith us?"

    "Yes.. yes I do!"

    [–]1RXRob 30 points31 points  (2 children)

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    Isn't that how Hostel started?

    [–]ChristianCMcKay 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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    Rick Hoffman is a representation of the Red Pill in all of us.

    [–]jjakers88 29 points30 points  (1 child)

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    Why would you send her home. Kick her out into the street and let her fend for herself

    [–]gensyms 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    Or just grab your backpack and bail.

    [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 10 points11 points  (2 children)

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    Well she brought her mom out. Its weird seeing a chick slut out with her mom around, but I wouldn't be surprised if a chick did some shit like that. It happens.

    [–]2elysius 18 points19 points  (1 child)

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    You don't pull a move like that without some serious mentoring on how to be a slut. Even if the mom wasn't in on it, she probably learned a lot from her. The mom would join in on the fun, it's been a while since she rode the CC.

    [–]16 Endorsed Contributorss_camaro 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    serious mentoring on how to be a slut

    Does the mother have a 'biological' or absentee father

    in her

    war chest?

    That, brothers, is a crimson flag furl'n atop pump'n dump hill.

    Throw down a ouija board. Watch it scroll: 'w-i-t-c-h'.

    Goes hand-in-hand with the other bosomed-buddied,

    biped:

    B...

    [–]hairaware 0 points1 point  (3 children)

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    You wouldve paid for her flight home? You're nice

    Edit: In case anyone's confused Im surprised if she dumps me on the trip shes finding her way home and she aint coming around with me anywhere or staying in the same hotel.

    [–]gensyms 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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    I wouldn't have!

    If I were feeling generous I might have told her to go to the local American Embassy for help getting home -- because I'm going to cash her return ticket in and blow it on a Eurosloot pass.

    [–]laere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    Come to think of it no I wouldn't. For some reason I keep finding these things surprising, and keep forgetting that I shouldn't be.

    [–]Sirinon 26 points27 points  (15 children)

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    my time to shine !

    I had a very similar thing happen to me ~8 years ago, a week before going on a four month trip together she breaks up with me.

    I had people like her mother and some of her girlfriends try to convince me to cancel my portion of the trip ($15,000), I had her creepy orbiter male BFF try to kick me out of MY going away party.

    This guy is a tool for falling on his sword like that.

    I Still went on the trip and made her life absolute misery for the week and a half that we had to spend together, one night I brought her to tears in a way that you could tell had well and truly left her permanently scarred.

    Did it hurt me ? more than anything at that point in time.

    What did I learn ? don't date a girl with a slutty past, ever.

    Honestly that 6 month period of my life (The breakup, the trip and the return) were filled with some of my greatest highs and lows.

    The full story of the "week on misery" is pretty long to type so I'll wait to see if anyone reads this first.

    [–]Voctr 7 points8 points  (8 children)

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    Type it please, sounds like a good story.

    [–]Sirinon 13 points14 points  (7 children)

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    Ok, Ill condense it down a little.

    1\ At my (our) going away party I took her best friend home, she found out the day of the flight about two hours before boarding that I had sex with her best friend, she was NOT happy!

    2\ one night I used my Australian advantage at an english pub and had a whole table of english girls having a fun time with me (6 of them 1 of me) while she was stuck with some weirdo's we met on a ghost tour the next table over, I left the pub with the english girls and left her hanging.

    3\ I had a myspace friend who was a model and lived in Folkstone (1hr train from london), I knew my ex had been stressed so I told her Im gonna take a trip away for the next two days to diffuse the tensions between us (shit was getting really stressful at this point), I didnt hook up with the model however I found out later that I easily could have, keep in mind I was still in an emotional shock from the breakup so I wasnt as outgoing or willing to take risks with beautiful women in that frame of mind.

    Nonetheless I returned to my ex two days later with a bunch of photos of me partying with this girl and her STUNNING friends which I made sure she got to see (kitchen bench), I had made sure she didnt know that my "friend" from folkstone was female until that point.

    4\ The climax, we were on a tour of the tower of london and some american guys befriended our group on the tour, it was quite clear that one of them was into my ex, I made no interventions I just played it cool and acted like I was just a part of the group, I had a playful banter going on with a french girl anyway.

    When I think back on that night I think my ex saw this as her chance to hurt me, we all went to the pub after the tour, Americans included.

    My ex sat next to me with the American on the other side I just acted cool and calm, keep in mind nobody in the group knew that we were dating only two weeks ago.

    maybe 30 mins later they both dissapear to the bar, I get up to go to the bathroom as I come to the lower floor of the pub I see my ex against the wall with the American guy kissing her, now keep in mind we only broke up two weeks ago so I was pretty shaken by this sight.

    I had to walk past them to go to the bathroom so as I did I planted a hard slap across the head of the American guy and kept walking, enough to wrench his head away from hers.

    I take a leak, think about what has just happened & then come out, they are gone, I go up to the tables upstairs and she is sitting there with a sad look on her face I walk up to her, bend over closer so she can hear me clearly and said in a controlled but firm voice "your nothing to me, you are worthless, they were right about you" followed by "You're just like your mother" at which point she completely and utterly broke down crying, Im talking a major meltdown.

    I went to a different floor of the pub and met some other backpackers to drink with.

    Apparently what had happened when I went to the bathroom is the American had asked why the fuck the Aussie guy had hit him, she spilt the full truth that I was her ex and we had broken up just recently etc etc, so the American guy wanted no involvement in it and left the bar, him in his mates actually caught me on their way out and gave a drunken "sorry man I didn't know" I told them it was cool.

    All in all I was still emotionally messed up for months, I didnt do any of the above to be "cool", it was mostly to preserve my sanity during one of the hardest times of my life, it wasnt until 2-3 years later when I could look back on that week without being overcome by emotion that I realize I actually "won" that one.

    [–]zeroms 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    Wait dude, you cheated on her and then blame her for the breakup?

    [–]ferwick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Na the going away party where he fucked the friend was between the breakup and the trip

    [–]Sirinon 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    No The timeline goes as follows:

    Breakup > my attempts to get her back > Going away party 5 days later > best friend > plane flight with ex the next day.

    To add further context I was in no way expecting the friend thing to happen, I was extremely emotionally distressed from the going away party, I thought the friend was coming home with me to make sure I wasn't alone, after drinking for a few hrs together we had sex and she admitted to me that she had a crush on me before I ever dated her friend.

    Post-europe we dated for a while until she had to move to another state for work, she was actually a really sweet girl for the most part.

    [–]zeroms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    ohh ok ok, nevermind then. Good on you.

    [–]natethegreattt 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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    did you ever hear from this girl again?

    more words in case this is too short

    [–]Sirinon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    Bumped into her at a party about ~3 years later and she was a complete mess, bunch of shitty tattoo's & worn out. She went from a 9 to a 6.

    [–]BadJokeHour 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    bravo you handled it well for someone who was completely new to that kind of experience. kudos and hopefully your life has improved dramatically since then

    [–]TestosteroneFilled 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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    What did I learn ? don't date a girl with a slutty past, ever.

    This is a very important point. There's lots of sayings we use over here. (You can't turn a hoe in to a housewife. If she was satisfied with one cock, she would have never been a slut etc.) You judge a person based on his/her past. The same should be exactly applied here. This is for LTRs though, ofcourse.
    Also, you should write out the week on misery. Might be helpful for you to see your part of mistakes and us to take lessons.

    [–]noworriescc 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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    I'm ready to get my kikis in

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      [–]Sirinon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      I feel it is important, TRP is supposed to be about self improvement which you cannot do if you don't look back on your mistakes & past weakness.

      I've looked back at that relationship and thought "if I could go back would I do it again" the answer is yes, at the end of the day I learned some valuable lessons about women, my self worth (see the extended story) and got to see Europe.

      [–]tabularaja 19 points20 points  (2 children)

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      He went home crying like a baby back bitch, passing up the vacation of a decade because he was heartbroken. "Babe, I'm sorry I wasn't better for you, let me fly your mom out here so you have more fun. You can keep the strap on that I bought for you to fuck me. I only hope that you have good feelings about our relationship, and that you take me back in 10 years when your uterus is dry. Thank you for allowing me these 2 days on the trip with you. I love you and always will and if you need money please come over."

      [–]dawg826 9 points10 points  (1 child)

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      Don't forgot the pair of balls he forever relinquished to her.

      "I never used them anyway."

      [–]tabularaja 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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      "Hang these nuts on the back of your truck and always remember me. I'll always love you "

      [–]thelandofdreams 170 points171 points  (43 children)

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      I feel like you guys are too quick to bash guys like this. Think about it. He has NOT A FUCKING CLUE what is going on. How is he supposed to know? Did you know when you were younger? If you haven't become enlightened to this stuff, how do you know?

      I used to believe it when my gf said shit like "I just need space." Because as a young man the world was constantly shoving the sacred and honorable nature of women in my face at every turn. I thought "I need space" meant "She needed space". It took me a lot of experience to know "space", actually means, "dick from another guy." That "It's not you, it's me," means "I want dick from another guy." That "I feel we are growing apart", means "dick from another guy." That "I'm not ready." means "Dick from another...." you get the idea.

      I had to fucking STRUGGLE and HURT to learn these lessons. Don't bash a guy because he hasn't learned them yet....it doesn't make him a pussy. If you meet a young man like this in real life, for god sake, help him out...he is your brother and he needs you.

      TLDR: In a society that teaches you women can do no wrong...is it really a young guys fault for not realizing otherwise without help? Is he a pussy because he doesn't know any better? No, he isn't a pussy, but he needs your help.

      [–]Rougepellet 20 points21 points  (0 children)

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      Lets ignore the fact that his ex-gf is sucking anything that looks like a dick over there. What pissed me off and made me facepalm was the fact that instead of trying to enjoy the vacation he paid for, he goes home without even a week going by and lets her mother take his place. So basically he is forking over a shit ton of money for these 2 women and getting nothing in return? He could've just given them the cash directly instead of disguising it in a vacation then. He might as well let her fuck him up the ass with a dildo and her mom can do him in the mouth.

      [–]YaBoiTibzz 47 points48 points  (10 children)

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      Look I only discovered this sub this year but I am 100% confident.... if I paid for a dream vacation like this and my girl decides she "needs some space" on the second day.... I would not hesitate.

      You are here on my money, you can spend time with me like we agreed on, or you can leave and go home and we're done forever.

      That simple. I used to put women on a pedestal to some extent but I never was dumb enough to let them use my money like that.

      [–]thelandofdreams 29 points30 points  (7 children)

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      You bring up a good point. A lot of guys are just naturally saavy or strong enough to avoid these pitfalls. But, a lot of us fall into the traps of liberal education, that will have you believing that your typical white male is literally a Hitler baby-rapist, and should bow and grovel for forgiveness to every female he meets.

      Other guys don't learn until they see their girl ask for "space" and find her on the back of some guy's Harley three days later.

      Some never learn

      I need redpill because.....

      [–]slfnflctd 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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      liberal education

      I've read a lot about some of the scary current trends in schools, but I think people's experiences with the education system are going to vary widely. Not only due to regional differences, but changes over time. More than half my public schooling was during the 80s in the northern midwest, and it seemed like I had about as many male teachers as female ones, along with more traditional viewpoints represented.

      It was more indoctrination from the disney-hollywood industrial complex that screwed up my head and ultimately led to my first moments of RP truth. I think that's true for a lot of guys. Looking for an alternative to parental religion for framing the world, and - big surprise - the ideas with the slickest, shiniest, most emotionally manipulative audiovisual content win out. The fact that from where I was sitting it was also the 'counterculture' viewpoint only made it more attractive.

      I appreciate your empathy for this clueless guy who got screwed over. I myself was not naturally savvy or strong enough to avoid several metaphorical spiked pits, and took a long time to recover. I could have benefited from some guidance, but I delayed my growth by diving headlong into self-medication instead. There are still conditioned responses I have to certain concepts which, though I know they're misguided, are slow to change. The only way out of the pain - other than distracting or lying to ourselves - is continually reinforcing facts and accepting reality.

      'True love' as it was sold to us is a lie. To get the most out of life, we must ignore that lie and force our aspirations into the world with discipline, sweat and pain.

      When a girl tells a guy she needs space, there is no love of any kind in it, and I'm thinking he either failed to hold frame or waited too long to next her... probably both.

      [–]YaBoiTibzz 4 points5 points  (4 children)

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      Yea I put women on a pedestal emotionally, I thought I was supposed to "understand" and "be supportive" whenever they got upset, no matter how absurd the reason.... but I never bought into the liberal nonsense when it comes to money.

      I majored in philosophy which really helped me to see the fundamental hypocrisy in the way that women approach money and its role in their relationships with men....

      [–]1critter_about_towne 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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      Oh no, you mentioned majoring in philosophy! Prepare your anus!

      I exaggerate, but there does seem to be some serious hostility towards all arts programs here, and while much of it is justified, philosophy is unfairly lumped in. A lot of my STEM friends, whether University educated or not, like to say philosophy is bullshit or it is irrelevant in the modern world... but to them it hasn't progressed beyond Descartes, because that's the popular media perception of philosophy. Meanwhile they discuss philosophy of science, logic, and epistemology even without acknowledging that they are discussing philosophical topics. (I've seen people get upset when told that they are discussing topics fundamental to philosophy - almost like how people will discuss red pill advice but react with hostility if told it is red pill!) Some even discuss the cognitive science aspects of AI without being willing to admit that CogSci is 40% philosophy. They simply cannot shake the perception that philosophy is an antiquated field where people try to find reasons to say that God really does exist, and argue about the meaning of 'meaning.'

      I like to call philosophy jujitsu for the mind. I should call it ninjutsu for the mind, it's so versatile. It was my other major in my BSc and while behavioural neuroscience is great when discussing evolutionary biology, it is my education in philosophy that gave me the tools and skills and experience to really delve into arguments and ideas and even dismantle ideologies. Philosophy is about logic, not emotion, that's why it is a common degree for people aiming at Law School.

      I launched a soapbox off your comment, there. Wanted to chime in with a 'here, here!' regarding the study of philosophy. It's not job training, but it isn't meant to be, and it is very useful for a lot of jobs, if they require critical analysis but not a very specific set of skills to start out.

      [–]YaBoiTibzz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      You bring up a great point and the main reason I feel fine saying that I majored in philosophy here, it's basically the study of logic. With one of the key tenets of TRP being that men are naturally more logical than women, I feel that's something to be respected.

      [–]haltingstate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Philosophy is pseudo math. Its not considered to be liberal arts.

      [–]reason_is_why 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      Blaming liberal education for lack of sense is silly. It smells victimy.

      [–]NotReallyEthicalLOL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      Seriously, that shouldn't even be a question. I might let her use the ticket so it's not a waste, but to go home and give your reservations to her mother is beyond belief.

      [–]reason_is_why -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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      Right. Normal people respond like this. You can't fix stupid.

      [–]2 Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 61 points62 points  (5 children)

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      I feel like you guys are too quick to bash guys like this.

      I had to fucking STRUGGLE and HURT to learn these lessons.

      If you meet a young man like this in real life, for god sake, help him out...he is your brother and he needs you.

      Not only are the humans (inside the Matrix) blind to their slavery, they will actively fight to protect it. Ridicule and derision are the appropriate responses to cases like this. It is because men are brothers that we have to emphatically differentiate between those of us who are in the club, and who are outside of it. This holiday cuckold is outside of our club. He is blind and deaf to his slavery. Based on his actions he is playing for the other side. He has probably shamed Redpill behavior, attitudes, opinions, and possibly redpill couples if he ever knew any.

      Congratulations, manhood requires struggle, pain, confusion, anger. If you haven't experienced these things than you literally are not a man. A boy is (meant to be) sheltered from the painful realities of this world. The role of a father is to protect his boy from the majority of the pain and introduce him to it slowly and teach him and guide him through life, preparing him for life's challenges and pitfalls because one day you will be alone and father won't be there to protect you. We aren't his father.

      The socialization process utilizes ridicule to tell people in the loudest way possible that they are fucking up. Check out a group of boys playing catch. One of the boy's techniques is so bad the ball goes straight into the ground every throw. After 2 or 3 times of this the other boys will not support him emotionally, they will mock the fuck out of him for throwing like a girl, for being a bitch, for being a useless twat--because he is. The ridicule should indicate to the boy that he needs to focus, ask for help, try something new, anything but keep failing and being mocked. So when a man fails as badly as this boyfriend did, ridicule is the correct response. His father would not ridicule him, he would launch right into a lesson on the proper action to take. We aren't his father. We are his peers, so ridicule is the tool we use.

      [–]thelandofdreams 6 points7 points  (2 children)

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      Well said, good points all around. I still feel for this guy. How could I not? I WAS this guy, and so were a lot of you. If I was friends with this guy I would dog the shit out of him, just as you described, but I'd still try to lead him along after if I could.

      [–]the99percent1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      I don't know man.. you are on holiday. why the need to fly back defeated and immediately?

      Just continue on your own euro trip. Europe is awesome enough to travel alone. There is bountiful of pussy waiting to be fucked.. in fact, you've got a damn good sad story to open up with other girls.

      Girls love competition. Imagine telling a girl that your ex just dumped you 2nd day on holiday that youve just payed for.

      [–]DistanceSkater 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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      You don't need to be a red piller to understand what she did was cunty and what he did was really weak.

      [–]thelotusknyte 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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      He's still a pushover though.

      [–]19 Endorsed Contributordrrrrrr 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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      It is irrelevant whether we are saying he is a pussy because of his nurture (upbringing) or because of his nature. Maybe he's well-aware of TRP and spat it out, calling us retards. Maybe he's turned down sane advice over and over in his life. Or maybe he grew up with a single mother and didn't have someone to teach him this shit, we don't know.

      Stop getting upset that he is being condemned. We are condemning his behavior, not him as a person. Why his behavior is the way it is, we do not know because we aren't him. But when you become around college aged, you have a responsibility to stop being a product of whatever influences you were around and start taking responsibility for what you are. It is irrelevant who is at "fault" here for his pussy behavior - either way, it's still pussy behavior. Making excuses for him does not help the newcomers here observe the importance of avoiding being this guy.

      [–]Incubuns 6 points7 points  (3 children)

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      The reason we're calling him a moronic beta loser is because we are men, and men know that part of the hurt and struggle of learning is having people call you a fucking idiot when the truth is slapping you in the face and you ignore it. Only women think feelz are more important than lessons learnt, and we should and I think most of us do feel absolute contempt for anyone trying to push the feminine "positive reinforcement at any price" crab-bucket mentality onto men.

      Yes there are lessons that you can only learn by seeing and doing - but the learning is always faster when someone who knows is there to rub your nose in it before and after. This is the most traditional form of masculine teaching and learning, that you can see in the military, in trade workshops, and generally anywhere men are teaching men that hasn't been colonised and neutered by feminism.

      Just because you call someone a useless numpty because they fucked up doesn't mean you're not patiently teaching them. It means that you respect them as a capable individual who can learn and should have done so. And it means that they learn emotional and social resilience and how to be results- rather than process-oriented at the same time they're learning the core lesson.

      A worthy man doesn't permit himself to lose the message because it's given in a rough way - that territory belongs purely to the feminine.

      [–]awesomesalsa -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

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      The reason we're calling him a moronic beta loser is because we are men, and men know that part of the hurt and struggle of learning is having people call you a fucking idiot when the truth is slapping you in the face and you ignore it. Only women think feelz are more important than lessons learnt, and we should and I think most of us do feel absolute contempt for anyone trying to push the feminine "positive reinforcement at any price" crab-bucket mentality onto men.

      You present a false dichotomy. Saying hey, maybe I shouldn't call someone a "moronic beta loser" isn't the feminine "positive reinforcement [sic] at any price" crab-bucket mentality. It's called being a decent person and refraining from making people feel any worse than they absolutely need to to get the message across.

      A worthy man doesn't permit himself to lose the message because it's given in a rough way - that territory belongs purely to the feminine.

      No this is just what you tell yourself to justify your cruelty. A worthy man can give guidance without gratuitous insults or mockery.

      [–]Incubuns 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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      Whatever, think what you want to think. You can lead a horse to water but you can't talk him out if being a pussy.

      Here it is, take it or leave it: a drill sergeant doesn't scream in your face because he's cruel or because he hates you, he does it to make you the kind of person who doesn't go to pieces when someone screams in your face.

      [–]awesomesalsa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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      You can say "Look dude, you have to drink this water. I know you don't want to but you'll be fucked if you don't. Trust me on this. I know you can do it."

      Or you can say "Dude stop being such a fucking little bitch and drink the water. Goddamn if you don't drink the water you'll deserve to die, faggot."

      They have the same core message but do you really think the second message is better or even equal? If you do then you really need to ask yourself why you feel so comfortable with treating others cruelly.

      [–]tanenbaum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      I'm not sure if it's the guy that's being bashed here or the whole nice guy conditioning culture. I've certainly had my frustrations as an imgur user trying to explain the same kind of philosophies that this subreddit represents. It's a certain way to get downvoted and labeled as a bad human being.

      [–]the99percent1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      this is plain gullibility..

      Even a Nigerian prince would have no trouble siphoning away this boys money.

      [–]Ultimativity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      Excellent advice. Thanks for posting

      [–]PlanB_pedofile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      I too was blind to all that bullshit as well. However big rule to red pill and being a man is "ignorance is no excuse for past fuck ups"

      The "I didn't know" does not mean it's a forgiven free pass. The bitter pill is coming to terms that you've been lied to for a very long time and your present predicament is a result of those lies and only person at fault and blame is yourself for believing those lies.

      Accepting full responsibility of your own ignorance is a crucial step to becoming a man. Don't blame the stystem for being brainwashed, blame yourself for not seeing the truth.

      [–]x3oo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      yes i knew when i was younger

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      i don't feel bad for this guy. i don't care what the guy has been taught or has or has not read on the internet. it's not that hard to have some basic self respect for yourself.

      i don't really understand these people who read trp and get enlightened by it. it's common fucking sense. i just feel better to see other people put into words the basic things i already knew.

      [–]whitey_male 15 points16 points  (1 child)

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      He should have just said "yes dear I understand", then pretend to take her on a nice day trip in Europe somewhere, then left her stranded with no money.

      [–]wiseprogressivethink 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      If the trip included a visit to Italy, he could have made her "disappear" for a few hundred thousand Lira...

      [–]seattleron 10 points11 points  (1 child)

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      The front page is part of the problem. These betas are praised by society, female friends/family, white knight buddies, message boards they frequent, and their castrated fathers for what they do. They think they're being the bigger man for doing things like that. They think they're right. They think everyone looks on them as a great person. They think this is reality. But here's the problem: they're still unhappy and not getting what they want and deserve.

      What he should have done:

      1.) Told his GF, in a stoic and emotionless manner, that if she wants to break up that is her decision.

      2.) Told her to get her shit packed and GTFO on the next flight home.

      3.) Before she left, let her hear him calling another chick to come on the trip with him. Might have been hard to find one, but believe me women make time for vacations. It's like it's half of the reason they live. "OMGzzzzz I can't wait to go to the beach! I just want to wear a bikini and drink margaritas every day of my life, is that too much to ask??!?!?!!!"

      If not another girl, a buddy that she hates him hanging out with.

      4.) Held frame regardless of what shit tests and emotional meltdowns came his way before she left.

      5.) Updated (if he has any, which if he's a beta in a LTR he probably does) social media every few days with a status on the cool things he's doing while including pics of said other girl/buddy he invited over to remind her that should have been her.

      6.) Enjoyed every text, voicemail, email, that happened the following 3.5 weeks. There would have been a mix of apologizing, hysteria, threats of fucking other dudes, and 'I Love Yous' while NOT returning any of them.

      7.) Return to her begging for him back, and him delegating her to FWB until he's sure she will be devoted.

      8.) If he decided to return to an LTR with her, keep reminders of said vacation around to keep her in check. Pics of him on Euro trip around apartment, as well as any souvenirs purchased on trip. Cheesy tourist glasses from different locations to drink out of on a regular basis would do.

      The problem is, no one will ever tell him anything like that. They will just praise him for being a door mat and he will take comfort in that, telling himself "Someday I'll find a woman who appreciates me." Then, if he's lucky, he'll find a 35 year old who's hit the wall and wants babies and beta bucks.

      Shit, I swear on everything I love I will NEVER be like that.

      [–]Ultimativity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      Our insane culture is the problem. When someone grows up like this, they cannot see the truth. This is why TRP is such a positive movement in our culture. " These betas are praised by society, female friends/family, white knight buddies, message boards they frequent, and their castrated fathers for what they do. They think they're being the bigger man for doing things like that. They think they're right. They think everyone looks on them as a great person. They think this is reality. But here's the problem: they're still unhappy and not getting what they want and deserve."

      [–]mizzoufan1990 17 points18 points  (0 children)

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      Forget returning his money, she needs to give him back his balls.

      [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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      You know the girl was laughing at his dumbass after he flew home.

      She probably suggested that he leave - so like a fucking fool he did.

      Reminds me of when my brother moved into a new apartment with this chick he was dating some years ago. She was cute, but a definite carousel rider. My brother laid out the cash for the deposit and the last month and she split the first month with him. Her credit sucked, so they had to use his credit to secure the place.

      A month in she asks if she could move her friend in (a chick). A month after that she told him that it just wasn't working out and that he should just move out.

      I remember him calling me all distraught saying that he had to move out of his place. I was like "fuck that dude you ain't going anywhere". Never underestimate the scandalousness of bitches. He ended up moving all her shit out of the bedroom and put new doorhandle with a key on the bedroom door.

      Guess what happened? She begged her way back into the bedroom, but it took a few months. Her friend even laughed at how her devious little plan blew up in her face. When the lease was up, my brother didn't renew and the owners wouldn't let her and her friend stay. He went on his merry way.

      He still sees her out and about pretty often and she hits on him mercilessly, but he knows what kind of cunt she is. He laughs at her now.

      That's the way you have to handle women that try to play you. The dude should have sent this bitch packing on the first flight out. Instead he got played out for a vacation.

      [–]redpillshadow 25 points26 points  (17 children)

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      Image: http://i.imgur.com/VvghHaj.jpg

      He won't even ask for the money back.

      Update from OP

      Alright everyone - seems like there needs to be some clarification.. haha

      I am NO longer in Europe - I came home four days into the trip.. She stayed, her mother paid her own way to go over to stay with her for another week.. That did not finish the entire trip..

      Her family did pay for her half of the trip...

      I was only able to get approx. $400.00 back - it was too late to cancel all of the reservations..

      The mom and daughter really are good people.. Just confused and got tangled up in a very shitty circumstance..

      Total cost of the trip was 11k apparently. They didn't finish the trip either. She just likes burning the money of other people (his and her family).

      [–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (10 children)

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      I just can't believe he fucking gave up his trip. Why the hell wouldn't he just book a different hotel room or something.

      Maybe he booked the trip only because he thought she would enjoy it. AKA beta boy

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          [–]sir_wankalot_here 7 points8 points  (1 child)

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          LMFAO @

          The mom and daughter really are good people.. Just confused and got tangled up in a very shitty circumstance..

          Really good of mom to help her daughter have a slut fest across EU. When I was younger I would always run across Mom and Daughter slut teams in the bar. I would manage to bang mom or daughter but never both.

          Bucketlist - bang a Mom/Daughter team, just for kicks :-)

          [–]PlanB_pedofile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          .... I ran into a slut mom with slut daughter.... mom was wayyyy to old to still be out slutting it..

          [–]Stormtrooper_in_Love 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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          What I cannot wrap my head arround is the fact that he now completely showed her that he is a pushover. If he would have stayed and sent her back home, if he had enjoyed himself for the next four weeks he might have regained respect.

          Even worse, he now is back home and has to live with what he has done. He could have gotten his head clear in Europe instead now he sits at home and will probably ponder about getting his "gf" back while she fucks someone else, and even if she does not she must be stunned by his actions, laughing her ass off.

          [–]ioncloud9 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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          Yeeeeaah. This guy doesnt have an ounce of self respect. She can fly her own ass home now.

          [–]dubknight 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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          Ultimate shit test. If he would have just partied hard, he would have passed.

          [–]lesbianDREAMS 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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          No point in even passing it though. The girl was a selfish cunt

          [–]balalasaurus 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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          6000 dollars? SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS??!! And then he went home??? What. A. Chump. She fucked up. It was the second day too. That means she probably planned on doing this the moment she found out about the trip. And he went home?????? Dude. If ever a man needed TRP , it's this guy.

          [–]The_Psychopath 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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          He should have just re-routed their itinerary to make a brief stop in the middle someplace like Saudi Arabia and then burned her passport leaving her there and take off for his vacation with eurochicks.

          [–]nefuratios 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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          I'd say all western women should spend a year with a middle eastern family in the Middle East just to gain some perspective and realize how lucky they are.

          [–]17 Endorsed ContributorJP_Whoregan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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          Flip the script around, and let's say it was a woman on Reddit crying about how her boyfriend dumped her on the 2nd day of a 4 week trip. Then the woman flew home, and the boyfriend's dad flew out in her place. Reddit would universally call this guy a misogynistic asshole.

          [–]50-cal 24 points25 points  (8 children)

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          I don't even get disguted by what women can do and are capable of these days. This however, this fucking sickens me.

          Matey needs a castration and fast.

          [–]redpillshadow 38 points39 points  (6 children)

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          Matey needs a castration and fast.

          Not really. Those things won't be used anyway. He'll be a provider some day to a wonderful girl. The kids will call him dad and his last mumbled words to them on his deathbed will be "I love you with all my heart, genetic connections are overrated".

          [–]50-cal 1 point2 points  (5 children)

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          Exactly. This pseudo-communist utopia we in the west inhabit has largely done away with a large part of Darwinism. If there's even the slightest possibility that this chap reproduces we'll have another generation of children beliving that being a man and proud is wrong, telling cunts like his ex to fuck off is wrong and all women are beuatiful, special snowflakes worthy of respect purely for having a fucking vagina.

          If on the other hand he doesn't reproduce and some one else's kids call him dad, then we've got another cunty whore getting away with it, raising another generation of kids who resent their father, belive being a man and proud is wr...you get the idea.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

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          That's the thing though. On the beta spectrum, all the extreme betas will end up raising another guy's kids, and they will be removed from the gene pool. Same thing with beta husbands in families. Their beta-ness will create a weak household (because obviously you can't trust a women to do that shit correctly). Hence, the kids have a lower chance of survival because they are emotionally-wrecked betas and man-controlling cunts.

          Evolution is slowly weeding out the betas (and the extreme alphas, may they live the good life though). The ultimate survivor will be the RP in marriage, or at least connected to the family as still girlfriend/boyfriend, I believe. Human evolution is adapting to our new found social transparency and absurd laws based on equality.

          [–]joestalin27 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          You forget the fact lower class households breed more.

          Just because the successful people will have stable relationships with lots of money, it doesn't mean they will have children.

          [–]hepatosplenomegaly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          No. All you have to do is look at the birth rates and immigration statistics to realize that in 50 years, the United States will be a de facto Hispanic country. Hispanic cultures have very little use for feminism.

          [–]reason_is_why -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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          Men with wives are evolutionarily more successful than men without wives. A man with a family is a functional and useful member of society. Single men are irrelevant at best and usually a liability.

          In fact, some theorize that war serves the purpose of removing young single men from society, thereby creating a stable environment for women and children.

          [–]awesomesalsa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          um... you don't know the first thing about genetics do you

          [–]Sufferix 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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          To be moderate, the bigger issue is that people are taught to be "the better individual" by ensuring that person is prepared for the rest of their future. Fuck that. You just fucked up everything I had been working towards? I might not be able to enjoy the vacation anymore, but you sure as hell aren't going to be here on my fucking dime, in the hotels I fucking booked, going to the events I fucking planned. You can either take the plane trip back home now, or figure your own shit for how to get home; shit, I might not even give them the other ticket to get back.

          Being the better person is bullshit pushed to the whole of society to hamper the aggressive and reciprocal nature of men.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 5 points6 points  (6 children)

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          He should have given her a ticket home and flew one of his wingmen over for the rest of the 4 weeks.

          [–]RedbullF1 4 points5 points  (5 children)

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          I'm asking because I'm new here:

          How could he force her to leave? Lets say he buys the ticket, calls her out on her bullshit, tells her to leave- what is there beyond that? He can't actually drag her to the airport and force her to leave against her will. The only viable alternative I can think of would be trying to cancel the return ticket, canceling all reservations, and continuing to enjoy the rest of the vacation for himself.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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          I was figuring giving her a ticket home would be the 'decent' thing to do at that point she can decide what to do from there. Sure you cant force her to leave but if she stays she can overstay her welcome and get deported anyway.

          Cancelling the return ticket would also be a good option. Let her pay her own way home. Burn that bridge.

          [–]DistanceSkater 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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          The "decent" thing to do would be to break up before or to do it after the trip. Doing it the second day is mind numbing.

          Also, he can't "force" her to leave but he can leave her. I'm sure this break up happened in some hotel room or on a public transport on their way back to said hotel room. It's called, "I'll be right back" and then go check out and get a different hotel and enjoy your remaining time in Euro and never speak to that twat ever again. Let her figure her own way home.

          [–]IDefyAxioms 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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          Cancelling the return ticket

          That would probably be the step I would take. Sometimes airlines can be picky about cancellations, though, and charge you almost as much as the ticket itself. An extra $400 wouldn't be worth it to me.

          [–]somethingyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          He can't but most of the people saying that are just expressing their distaste by saying what they would do if they could. Or they don't know that she paid for her part of the trip.

          [–]PlanB_pedofile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          In a situation like this you need to appeal to the hamster.

          "Here ya go honey. Here is a ticket back home if you need your space and time with your family"

          Then she realizes Shes not gonna get her dream Europe vacation and decides to stay, which then he just goes on ahead himself doing the things he's interested in doing while she does her stuff.

          Shit like thid can be a synopsis for a another blue pill Hollywood romantic comedy. "Stuck with you" about a couple who broke up 2nd day of a 4 week vacation but forced to endure the remainder of their trip.

          [–]watersign 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          I would kick her the fuck out

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          He should have booked a trip to South America; hitmen are cheaper there....

          [–]reason_is_why 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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          A fool and his money are soon parted.

          [–]scubar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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          I hope he cancels her ticket home, she probably already clinging onto some euro dick

          [–]TenderRacingPumpkin 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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          I like how we were almost summoned to that thread by a small group of users. The whole thread had me facepalming.

          He left early and she practically stole 6000 dollars from him.

          [–]Mrjetsondc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          I'd have punched that cunt, then flown home. Not like they will send Interpol for me across the Atlantic for beating a whore.

          [–]aviate650 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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          As a woman who panicked in college when I knew my boyfriend was going to ask me to marry him, I'm going to tell you when she started getting weird is when she started panicking. She should've talked to you. Give her some space.

          I ended up marrying him and we've been an amazing couple for 15 years, but right when things were starting to be serious I freaked out and we broke up for a month. My thoughts were that I hadn't dated a lot of people and had always envisioned being on the dating scene in my 20s, not married. I quickly realized what was going on and that I was throwing away something major. Thankfully, he's a patient man.

          I will say this: in high school I fell out of love with my serious boyfriend. The timing was bad and I had no idea how to handle the situation. Looking back now, I had to have been a bitch of a girlfriend as I was not happy, found fault in everything and hated myself for not having the guts to say anything. He just wasn't the blah blah blah"

          ----- Oh dear, some of these women commenting.

          [–]liljenz0 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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          For a second there I thought you actually were a woman foolish enough to defend this women on this subreddit

          [–]aviate650 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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          I can't edit from a mobile device but I was quoting a woman hamstering away her behavior in the comments. The italicized parts confirm everything we talk about.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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          Should have packed her up and sent her home. Lots of easy flange in Europe.

          [–]gensyms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          And literally half the continent is on vacation.

          [–]ztsmart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          Well there's not really much he can do at that point. I suppose I might cancel the return ticket if possible. Would that be something that could get a guy into legal trouble though? Essentially stranding someone else in another country. Would they be able to claim the return trip was implied?

          [–]DistanceSkater 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          I would have told her to find her own way home and I would have enjoyed my vacation rolling in Euro vag.

          It's hard for me to wrap my head around guys like this...Forget the girl because shes a POS, we all know they are ALL capable of doing things like this, he shouldn't have been surprised. However I hate that he played into her game by allowing her and her mother to take this trip. I hope that cunt gets hit by a double decker when walking in london.

          [–]Ossuari 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          Man seriously why not stay....

          I dont get it

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          You gotta have no self respect to do what he done.. seriously wtf that is just such an obvious use of his money

          [–]DGer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          It's fine that he didn't want to continue the trip, but the whole flying the mom over to enjoy the rest of the trip thing just blows my mind. That the mother would have accepted that arrangement speaks to the quality of the family.

          [–]PlanB_pedofile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          Jesus fuck! Dude should have sent her home while he took the remainder 26 days of his holiday traveling, reflecting, and taking time to himself. Turn the phone off and ignore all calls from her hamster....

          Now he's at home, crying and masturbating without a singe phone call from his ex gf (you know that shit would be 180 had she gone home while he had holiday) as she enjoys a freebie vacation.

          Fuck! That dude gets chump of the year reward.

          [–]Ultimativity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          His image of himself as a nice guy, and the reinforcement culture gives him for being a nice guy, actually makes him feel good about doing things like this. The sad fact is, when he realizes he's allowed people to take advantage of him, he'll feel enraged. He'll likely point that rage at someone other than himself.

          [–]Stealthy_Lehninger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          If he's paying for it, why on earth wouldn't he then just send her on the flight. Gawd.

          [–]dallz_beep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          Devil's advocate: who would walk away from a $6k vacation? Perhaps this guy really is that disgusting? I bet he chased her and acted like a total bitch the entire time.

          Granted, she could have backed out long before the vacation ever started if she really found him that unattractive. She shouldn't even be in the relationship if that's the case. Even a beta bux should have at least some alpha traits. But I guess not. She must have figured a nice vacation in Europe would be worth putting up with him. But, like, omg gross, beta sperm, BRB gonna throw up.

          Conclusion: Guy is a complete failure of a man and utterly unattractive. Girl is a gold digging whore who tries to put money before attraction.

          [–]Ayomalireid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          So is it not possible for someone to actually need space.

          [–]gensyms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          I don't understand why he didn't just ditch the chick and have a blast in Europe.

          She wants space. She gets space. No problemo.

          There are some amazingly beautiful women in Europe and this time of year half of them are on vacation. He could have been swimming in le strange.