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[–]tymet 184 points185 points  (77 children)

Women have weight loss easier since they don't have to actually gain muscle to "look good"

This is the thing that has always annoyed me. It's always women complaining about unfair body standards. The thing is, it's easy to be skinny, it's easy to be fat, and men can be neither. Think about it, we have to go to the gym and lift weights to literally tear our muscle fibres to make them grow back bigger and stronger just so that we can reach the accepted male standard, but of course it's women who are the real victims of social "beauty standards"

[–]ThousandTruths 140 points141 points  (60 children)

I've been going to gym for 10 years, lifting heavy things and putting down. 3 times a week, exercising at home, eating right, sleeping right. I have a great body. The best part? The female equivalent to me is a girl who took a diet for 2 months and is now thin, give her a boobjob and spray tan and there you have it - we are at the same league, we are a couple. And then she says it's hard to diet. This boils my blood! FUCK THE SYSTEM!

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 120 points121 points  (15 children)

Fuck the system? Shit man, accept it, use it, because it's about being better. So fucking what if a skinny spray tanned silicone endowed bitch simply has to push the plate away. She isn't your competition, she isn't your goal, she sure as fuck isn't your equal physically. She is a plaything, a distraction, maybe a partner to enjoy some fun with you, but little more.

I am your competition, you have to strive to be my equal or better, you're working to be better than I am. Your work and effort should be focused on making yourself more than I am, and every other male out there. Women are not our competitors, no matter how much they want to be, it's like sparing with a 7 year old, not much of a challenge. However, I am a challenge for you because I have accepted the challenge from other men.

That's what ya meant, right? You didn't want to write it all out, and used sarcasm instead.

[–]vapeh0le 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Alright, that's it, I'm hitting the weights tonight. Goddammit, yous.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 7 points8 points  (2 children)

You know we are, and if you don't we will fuck the bitch you meet next week and you will have to get your hand drunk again.

[–]the_real_chronos -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Fuck I just missed out on gym today to chase this girl. I got a blowjob out of it but fuck do I hate missing days in the gym..

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A good blowjob can be an an workout. Have this one girl who edges me, gets me close, then slows down, and she'll do that for half an hour to an hour. My abs are burning along with my legs, and she damn near drowns when she takes me over the edge. If you're not getting those, hit the gym today.

[–]Dark_Shroud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I took a 7 mile bike ride and I'm going to do some reps before finally turning in shortly. I'm getting rid of my gut & flab. Honestly since I got serious about getting active & fit I haven't felt this good in years.

[–]robot-b 0 points1 point  (0 children)

make sure you do squats for dem glutes, i have more chicks comment on my legs/butt more than anything else, though of course they like the guns

[–]ThousandTruths 15 points16 points  (6 children)

I have already done all of that, but I still have right to be bitter about it, because it's unjust.

[–]Gucci_do_the_dishes 13 points14 points  (2 children)

You have "the right be bitter" but you should try not to be. Unfortunately it's the only game in town, so deal with it or don't play.

[–]cantletthatstand 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is what I like to call "acknowledging and adapting to reality instead of bitching about it."

[–]back2ballin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dont nobody fuck wit my kitchen

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Unjust, sure, agreed. Life sucks, but you can make it better. I've been fucked over by a shit load of people for the last 35 years, I haven't stopped busting my ass to make life better. I gave up on fairness, justice, and everything like that, now I care about me and what I can make happen. Get pissed, but keep moving forward. That's life.

[–]1Dev_on 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If that's the bar you've setting for bitter and unjust, you're going to be in for a rough life

[–]jonnybeastmode 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't always upvote, but when I do that person fucking deserved it.

[–]redknight007 16 points17 points  (15 children)

Goddamn it. I'm on the same boat here. What irks me even more is when some stupid fat chick asks me how she can lose weight, and I answer that the best way is to lift weight and reduce calories. "But I don't want to be big and muscular like those bodybuilders!"

Bitch please. The ignorance/hamster kills me all the time. You'll need to be on a cocktail of various roids to be on their level.

[–]ThousandTruths 11 points12 points  (14 children)

She doesn't need to lift. She just needs to eat 1000 calories a day and she will be thin in a couple of months. That is literally all she has to do.

[–]confuseacatlmtd 13 points14 points  (11 children)

True, but then her ass will look terrible and saggy.

[–]pl231 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Skinny girls look good with clothes on. The moment they take them off, they don't look nearly as good.

[–]redknight007 20 points21 points  (0 children)

No squats = saggy ass. Barf.

[–]redknight007 8 points9 points  (1 child)

True, but it's not the best way to do it. I respect girls who lift more than the typical cardio bunnies, because it takes helluva lot more discipline and effort. Not to mention they have firmer ass and thighs.

Women do have it easier when it comes to losing weight. It's easier for them to lose fat around the waist, but it's difficult for them to lose it in the thighs and ass. But it's ok for them because most guys love girls with a fat ass and thighs.

For the guys, it's the reverse: it's easy for us to lose fat in legs and arms but it's a bitch for the love handles. Even if you have vascular arms and legs, but a flabby midsection, most girls won't even respect you.

[–]ThousandTruths 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Of course, it's not the best way to do it, but I'm making the point. By sitting on her ass and eating 1000 calories she will gain a bigger LOOKS boost than you do by going to gym for 2 years.

[–]CarnageReincarnate 11 points12 points  (16 children)

You will always be physically superior to over 90% of women. The system is in your favour, you just have to work for it.

[–]3 Endorsed ContributorF9R 19 points20 points  (13 children)

As a 6'6" guy, I'm physically superior to all women. Probably why I've always had an easy time seeing through feminist bullshit.

[–]garlicextract 9 points10 points  (8 children)

You may be superior to 99.99%, but don't kid yourself. Brittany Griner is built like a horse and has two inches on you. Urmila Chauduri from Nepal isn't even the tallest woman and makes you look tiny at 7'1". She's as tall as Shaq.

[–]3 Endorsed ContributorF9R 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I don't think rounding 99.99% up to 100% is a huge deal, but I get what you're saying.

[–]Requi3m 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Brittany Griner is built like a horse

Not even close. She's built like a woman so she has no muscle. Pic for reference:

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/69cc47ce584560d336ab5cdc4387906a2acd659a/c=8-0-2477-3281&r=537&c=0-0-534-712/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2014/08/25/1408997546000-XXX-GRINER-9-66720044.JPG

So where are her supposed muscles? An average man would have no problem taking her down. Height doesn't mean much.

[–]Iupvoteforknowledge 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Das a chick? Looks like a dude.

[–]garlicextract 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Height doesn't mean much.

lol you hear this comment only used when convenient.

Does anyone want to argue that world-class fighers Jose Aldo, Pacquiao, or Mayweather at 5'7" 145lbs could beat a ripped, athletic, jacked 6'6" 245 guy?

No, everyone will say "you can't overcome the size difference" "reach advantage" etc when convenient

[–]AUAUA 0 points1 point  (1 child)

At six feet, two hundred, i would take down pac and may, ground and pound and submit. Aldo i want nothing to do with because of his ground skills.

[–]garlicextract 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you assume they have a less skilled ground game than you? Just because they spend most of their time boxing?

[–]mrheh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah and a chimp is around 4ft in height and will pull shaq's arms from his body. A 6'6 male in decent shape will destroy a 7'1 woman in great shape.

[–]MichaelKeaton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're both still physically inferior. Both still weak. Strength is paramount.

[–]Transmigratory 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I thought being RP, or RP-like, is what makes it easy to see through feminist BS.

[–]ch4os1337 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Just adding another datapoint.

6'6' guy here, I wasn't always RP-like (I think) but always saw through most feminist bullshit.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

6'4 guy here. Didn't see through most feminist bullshit till I got out of high school. Maybe I'm just not quite tall enough.

[–]1User-31f64a4e 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Well I agree with you wholeheartedly on the sentiment. I'm going to reply here, to try (not very humbly) to make a point here.

I's not really a system, is it? Dimorphism it's really a social construct the way the Marxist gender feminists claim. It's biology.

So you are complaining that an unalterable aspect of reality is unfair. Perhaps true, but railing against it might not be constructive.

The cognitive dissonance when I realize that reality does not match my ideas about of how it should be has always been difficult for me. I just figure that the best course is to not to throw energy into a lost cause. (At least not for long; when seeing something clearly for the first time, it is perhaps natural to react at first with anger/indignation/etc.). But then ... the trick is to flow through that on to the next thing. In the case of boys and girls and society and double standards and biology ... the constructive next thing is to understand and manifest RP principles.

That said, you're right on the mark that this is yet another example of women making incorrect claims about what it is like to be a man, based on their own outlook and misinformation and ideology. Nothing wrong with occasionally disabusing women of these notions, esp. if you do it in a subtle, subversive way. ( See, Jedi mind tricks ... )

[–]52576078 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Byron Katie has a great quote that's relevant: "When I argue with reality, I lose—but only 100% of the time."

[–]confuseacatlmtd 1 point2 points  (3 children)

If you are only doing it for looks, I can understand you feeling this way. Try out martial arts, tricking, gymnastics or freerunning. Its a great feeling putting your body to good use for fun.

[–]Snivellious 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was what changed my world. Working out sucked, and I just didn't care enough about getting big to suffer so much for it. Then I found some demanding sports I loved doing, and realized why there are people who don't mind working out. There are more goals than pure looks, and they can help you get to looks without so much pain.

[–]ThousandTruths 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Try out martial arts, tricking, gymnastics or freerunning. Its a great feeling putting your body to good use for fun.

I already tried all of those. I can do lots of acrobatics and have extreme flexibility. It's fun, yes.

[–]confuseacatlmtd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats great! Thats the payback with being male. All these things are much easier for us, so while it takes longer to build our bodies, it comes with better payoffs.

[–]easyrandomguy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FUCK THE SYSTEM!

fuck this gay earth

[–]ben0wn4g3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And they still can't be arsed to read a book.

[–]RyanLikesyoface 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You think all of those models you jack off to don't work out? You would be wrong my friend. For a girl to have a finely toned ass and flat stomach she needs to work out too. Granted, not as intensely as we do but women definitely benefit from working out.

[–]the10thrider 5 points6 points  (2 children)

we have to go to the gym and lift weights to literally tear our muscle fibres to make them grow back bigger and stronger just so that we can reach the accepted male standard

Breaking things down and building things back up is what makes me feel accomplished and the most like a man. I don't do it because I want to meet some arbitrary standard; I do it because I truly enjoy it. It's creation, it's artistry, it's the most human thing any man can do.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That doesn't take away from the fact that women really have it much easier when it comes to "beauty standards".

[–]the10thrider -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Women need only dress well and not eat too much and most men would be satisfied.

[–]epUser 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Except men aren't really judged by appearance as much as women, their identity and self worth are more attached to it than when it comes to men.

[–]1Dev_on 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We aren't judged. Just ignored.

Trust me, most of the forever alone types would love to be judged, at least they are being acknowledged socially

[–]Endorsed ContributortrpSenator 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Seriously, whenever I notice I'm gaining weight I don't even think much of it other than, "Uggg... Guess I'll have to start cooking my own food again." And EASILY drop it off. It's so easy to get back to a healthy and fair weight, it's not even something I have to focus too much on.

On the otherhand, when I am thinking of gaining back 5 pounds of lean muscle all I can think is, "Fuck my life... Hours and hours and hours of hard work for several months are now part of my schedule." Don't even get me started on the cost of protein and enhancements.

[–]Iupvoteforknowledge 0 points1 point  (2 children)

So true. I recently cut for a BJJ tournament. I'm making a big deal out of it, cooking all my own meals, cutting carbs, lower calories. Two weeks later I met weight. (Dropped nearly 20lbs). I was like, "...fuck. That was easy".

[–]Endorsed ContributortrpSenator 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Lol, literally. If you make it so you must cook your own food if you are going to eat, it gets SO SO SO easy to manage your weight. Because you only eat when you're willing to do the work for it, which means no grazing. Then it just comes down to not eating shit when you cook. No fucking pizza, or delicious bowls of pasta.

The truth is, eating some greasy pizza is nice, but all my body really wants is to be full. So I just cook up some chicken, some rice, and vegies, and I'm full and not even thinking of food. It's not like I look back 2 days later and think, "Oh god, I wish I would have cooked a pizza!" No, not at all. I really don't think people understand how easy it is simply because they are so used to just eating crap because eating crap is so easy and convenient.

At any given time I'm fluctuating a good 10 pounds between fat cutting and water weight loss. It's not even like it's a life style either. It's just, "Hmm... gaining some more chubs here. Guess I should make some bomb teriyaki chicken and rice for lunch for the next week or two, and got to replace juice with water." Easy peasy.

[–]Snivellious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That point in paragraph two - god damn that's important. I crave sweet, carb-filled shit pretty much every time I'm hungry. The answer isn't starving myself, it's eating a bowl of chicken and vegetables. It's dense, it's nutritious, and suddenly I'm not hungry. Fuck the craving, what I really wanted was food, and good food still tastes good.

[–]smokingmonkey420 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I must object. It is actually distinctly more difficult for women to cut fat than men. Evolution designed us this way. Consider the fact that our body operates on scarcity, and that women are the ones who have to bear children. It's far more important for their bodies to reserve stores of fat for this reason.

Still, I agree, there are no excuses.

[–]DoctorWelch 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You are arguing a different point. You are talking about the fact that women have a higher body fat percentage than men naturally. However, that higher body fat percentage works directly into attractiveness so the ideal man's body fat percentage is much lower than the ideal woman's (probably 5% or more).

The fact remains the same. Losing fat is just math and it works the same for everyone, male or female. The difference is for us it takes muscle building to look good.

[–]jonnybeastmode 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Although I agree with your message I would like to add one thing. Women should lift too. Muscle is sexy. I'm not saying crazy body building muscle, just saying women who squat, bench and row are far sexier looking than womenn who just run.

[–]pl231 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why are you approaching this purely from a visual perspective? I look at that as a passive effect of my training, not a primary goal at all. My build is functional, I can do shit that an average built person can't, specifically due to it. A chick getting skinny can't say the same thing.

Not to mention the long term health effects of being muscular and lean are much higher than just losing 10 lbs and being skinny like the average woman works out for. You guys are focusing on all the wrong things. I'd argue the fact that it's harder for you to look good visually is good for you because it makes you train to the point where you also acquire other attributes(strength, health benefits, mobility) that you wouldn't necessarily gain if you were a chick, due to its ease and thus inherently less motivation

[–]Ronin11A 29 points30 points  (14 children)

Holy shit, the comments on that article are a fucking hamster den. "Who is she to judge" and such.

Welcome to the New Western Society, where everyone is a perpetual victim of their circumstances.

[–]RedPillProphet 12 points13 points  (13 children)

everyone is a perpetual victim of their circumstances

That however is an absolute truth. Let me give you an inductive proof:

  1. You are born with circumstances and genes you didn't choose.
  2. Your immediate actions after that were 100% determined by your circumstances and genes.
  3. Any actions you took after were 100% determined by the actions you took before and how your genes respond to your circumstance.

At no point is there a new variable introduced. We are 100% at merci of our circumstances. Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FanhvXO9Pk

[–]smokingmonkey420 2 points3 points  (6 children)

I watched this. Big fan of Sam Harris but essentially I find this point to be meaningless. Sure, I can accept this premise. So what? Doesn't change the fact that I feel completely capable of free will. I can make decisions and do what I want.

I find it to be analogous to the yin-yang of women and men. Here, Harris is presenting us with cold, hard logic and yet I can't accept it. Call it cognitive dissonance if you like but I act out of spite of Harris point.

[–]RedPillProphet 1 point2 points  (5 children)

I agree, it does not change the day to day life too much. It has just changed my perspective of other people. Every time I look at someone unfortunate now I think "this could've been me" and then contemplate what combination of unfortunate life events took them to that point. An increased sense of empathy with the rest of humanity if you will.

What more could you want from one youtube video? lol

[–]smokingmonkey420 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Increased sense of empathy. That is the take-away? I can agree with that. Still, it seems like that point can be abused to the extent that everyone is a victim these days. I used to consider myself a victim like all the other BP's until I found this site. Since then it has transformed my thinking and my life.

So, am I now a victim of RP ideology? See how things can get confusing?

Personally, I feel that people need to compartmentalizations these thoughts. I've found the book "The 4 agreements " by Don Miguel Ruiz to be enlightening. His agreements are as follows.

1) Be impeccable with your word 2) Don't take anything personally 3) Don't make assumptions 4) Always do your best

Where am I going with this? Well, if you can seperate the subjective existence (self) from the objective existence (world) then things become more clear. Should I judge others for their actions? No. Is it fair to judge others by their actions? Yes. You can see how there is a lot of gray area.

[–]RedPillProphet 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Increased sense of empathy. That is the take-away?

No, just a minor positive change I noticed based on that idea.

I have no idea if being aware of this truth is a net positive on life. Personally though I just enjoy the clarity and emotional peace it has provided. One thing it has completely destroyed is a sense of regret, if I didn't do something it's because given my circumstances I couldn't have. I now simply learn from the past... never dwell on it and fully accept myself.

Also it might be different for others but it has done nothing to dampen my drive and ambitions.

Still, it seems like that point can be abused to the extent that everyone is a victim these days.

True, but a mind looking for an excuse will always find one. I will not base my perception of truth on a false premise because of that.

Didn't comment on the rest of your post, because I agree with it.

[–]smokingmonkey420 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I just have a difficult time with this concept because I feel like it robs me of my agency and responsibility. Personally, I feel that a sense of responsibility is one of the most important factors in establishing a man. Perhaps, this is the crux. Understanding that life is essentially out of our control but thinking otherwise in spite of that fact.

[–]smokingmonkey420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Furthermore, I would add that Harris is a bit blinded by his own ideology. Have you read his book Lying? He proposes the idea that we should all be completely honest and upfront with our actions and conversations. What a grand idea!

However, we here at TRP know better. We understand that women are often incapable of being completely honest whether out of necessity or simply because it clashes with their emotions too much. Typical projection of male values to the other gender but Harris never touches on this subject because he's such a damn liberal.

[–]alpha_n3rd 4 points5 points  (4 children)

merci

What are you, a French fatalist? Unplug, man. We all have the power to change our circumstances.

[–]RedPillProphet 3 points4 points  (3 children)

We all have the power to change our circumstances.

You misunderstand me, the two aren't mutually exclusive. E.g. While it appears that a fat person is completely in control of their weight, it's not so simple if you dig deeper.

Why does the fat person choose to overeat? Perhaps it's due to a stronger sense of hunger, or a weaker will power (due to either genetics or lack of proper parenting), or an easier availability of junk food, or lack of information on the harms of obesity, or lack of motivation due to misconceptions or lack of sex drive.

No matter the cause, if you dig deeper you will necessarily and quite soon arrive at a conclusion that their current circumstance was a direct result of their genes and their environment. Because there is no other variable in life.

What you are saying is that a fat person can lose weight. Of course they can... weather they will or not depends completely on what life brings to them and how they react to it (e.g. they may get addicted to games and become hopelessly obese or get rejected by a girl and decided to become ripped at all cost... at no point is there free will involved).

[–]MickeyRoarick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well there's an enormous range of potential, the same pair of twins could end up one in prison with the other in a boardroom just based on who raised them. There are so many variables that I believe the butterfly effect of one fatty reading my post saying 'HIT THE GYM FATFUCK' could be all they need to change their habit and outcome. There's no reason why all their genetics or upbringing would outweigh listening to me say that and making that personal decision to change. But like said above, these people are running and fighting as hard as they can to deny that they have any personal will. Put them to death. They do not want to live.

[–]Rathadin -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

First off, you're assuming they're fat because of overeating, when research shows that not to be the case.

Its the foods they eat. Too much sugar, too much simple carbohydrates. Most of the red pill stuff is pretty good, and actually backed up by research and science being produced even at major universities (although almost never publicized broadly), but where most red pill sites fucking fail miserably is on weight-loss and nutrition.

NOT that its their fault... the information is absolute fucking garbage and its hard as hell to get good info, since its buried in obscure academic journals, but it IS out there. Jonathan Bailor's first book, The Smarter Science of Slim, is a damn fine tome of info, since he backs up all his conclusions with studies.

[–]Ronin11A 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, much of the research says they DO over eat, and underestimate by how much, many by as much as 1,600 kcal per day.

Here's the thing, and this is science: you cannot gain fat without inducing a caloric surplus. Period. Full stop. I could eat McFlurry's and chicken nuggets three times a day, and if I only consumed 1,500 kcal, I'd lose weight (since my BMR is around 1,850 kcal).

Obviously, for optimal health, the quality of the food matters. But you cannot become overweight, much less obese, just from eating sugar or carbs if you're still in a caloric deficit.

They're fat because they're eating like shit, and because they're overeating.

[–]Juracule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

high-five I'm quite sick of the Sartrian nonsense I see spouted all over the place.

[–]gameno 25 points26 points  (26 children)

Losing weight is a mental exercise. Not getting that 600 calorie starbucks in the morning is too hard for some people. Cooking a healthy meal instead of going to taco bell five times a week is just too difficult. I remember a long time ago reading about fit2fat2fit where a very in shape trainer gained a ton of weight and lost it again. It wasn't as easy as he expected, but in a few months he was back to his regular self. Now look at the extreme mental fortitude it took Christian Bale to lose 63lbs for The Machinist and Mark Whalberg to lose 60lbs for The Gambler. They would literally get off on the smell of food, but still not cheat.

TL;DR: Losing weight and gaining weight is hard work and takes a strong mind.

[–]1redpillbanana 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Mad respect for the trainer - it took him 6 months to gain all that weight. He went from having a Thor-like body to having a beer belly.

[–]ThousandTruths -4 points-3 points  (23 children)

All you have to do is take 1000 calories per day, no more. That is LITERALLY ALL you have to do to lose weight.

You can eat junk food consisting of 1000 calories, eat chocolate or ice cream, stay at home, lie in your bed all day and with 1000 calories a day you will get thinner and thinner by each passing day, possible lose 1 kilo per week.

To get a masculine hot body, you have to spend years if not decades in gym (if you are a bad gainer) on perfect diet, perfect sleep, low stress, monitor health, do deadlifts, squats, etc...

[–]thinktankman 14 points15 points  (11 children)

1000 calories a day if you want a shitty metabolism or worse

As far as eating 1000 calories of ice cream only completely false not enough nutritional values

[–]ThousandTruths 1 point2 points  (10 children)

I know, but you will still lose weight. 1000 calories is the most legitimate diet that actually works. For men it might be higher.

[–]thinktankman 8 points9 points  (7 children)

wrong again

You should be tracking your tdee and then eat at a 300-400 calorie deficit if you are not working out

take a bio course or nutritional course, your body needs proteins fats carbs and fiber along with vitamins. Simply telling someone to eat a thousand calories is bro-science. Your way will get them to lose weight but will give them many other problems.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly, and no better way to get someone to quit than having them feel like absolute shit for a few days ( which gets associated to healthy ). You need enough nutrients and calories to keep your brain working so you can maintain enough willpower to go through the diet.

Also, most of the time the point is to lose fat, not weight. Starving yourself will make your body eat your muscles too.

[–]ThePacketSlinger 0 points1 point  (5 children)

The 300-400 deficit is the fitness worlds response to being accused of encouraging eating disorders. Its completely possible to hit all of your macros at 1000 cals (not saying its easy, just possible). Obviously, a pure ice cream sandwich diet is not the ideal way to do it, but his point stands, youll still lose weight

[–]thinktankman 2 points3 points  (4 children)

And what i'm saying is no shit you will lose weight but that is far from a legitimate diet that shit will break your body down you will lose weight but gain it all back. AKA yo/yo diet.

[–]MickeyRoarick -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

Bodybuilders eat a lot less than 1000 for weeks at a time. But I suppose they're retards who know nothing about the human body.

You simply do not understand that the American diet is fat as fuck. Pushing the 300 deficit as the only way to cut calories is fake. If your theories were right, the human race would not exist. We as humans (and my family I know) have gone long periods of time eating less than 1000 and getting it any way they can. I guess if I want to sneak up on you I can just eat a potato and gather some wild vegetables then walk right up to you face while you mutter "woah what was that I thought I heard something, but I don't see anyone here who is eating a survivable diet, yup, no actual humans here."

As for break down your body, your body will tend to find a way of making it. Try and thumb wrestle a 90lb Masai warrior, they'll snap your wrist while laughing.

[–]thinktankman 0 points1 point  (2 children)

bodybuilders have years of training and they usually eat that amount 2 to 3 weeks before a competition to try and look vascular and to cut down the last couple of pounds.

The average fat ass who decides she/he needs to lose 100 pounds eating 1500 -2000 calories less than what they normally intake will most likely send their body into shock. As for your masai warrior comment they've been training that way there entire life so what fucking point were you trying to make.

Eating a thousand calories a day is doable randomly deciding to do it when you've been eating shit all your life is fucking dumb. Even people who juice have to work there way into juicing they go on a diet consisting of salads and fish and chicken.

The american diet is fat as fuck that I will agree with but I am 6'5 and way 280 what the fuck do you think will happen to me if I try your perfect 1000 calorie diet plan?

[–]MickeyRoarick -1 points0 points  (1 child)

You'd lose weight. Is that complicated to you?

You have no concept of military history I know that for a fact.

[–]Rathadin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah, sorry brother, you're flat out fucking wrong.

Actually, you're RIGHT, if you want to just "lose weight". Most people don't. Most people want to lose fat. If you want to lose fat, load up on lean proteins, fats, and carbohydrates in the form of green leafy vegetables, and eat the fuck out of that stuff. You'll have a hell of a time overeating chicken and green beans and broccoli and salad.

[–]ThousandTruths -1 points0 points  (0 children)

1000 calorie diet will make you lose fat. You will lose it until there is no more fat in body. Then you are thin. This is a fact. It's not my imagination, go ask a dietitian.

[–]alpha_n3rd 6 points7 points  (1 child)

good luck getting in shape on that shitty diet

[–]ThousandTruths 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's the point. A woman would not need to get in shape. She would become 55 kg's thin or so and look fucking hot to all the alpha males. Then she'd buy fake tits to look even hotter. She could achieve that with the shittiest diet.

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    [–]down_with_whomever 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    I have to tell you man, what you're saying isn't true. You should stop repeating this. It's a falsehood.

    [–]ThousandTruths -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    It's not falsehood, it's a fact. Yes, a fact. I've seen it happen and have consulted with dietitians who confirmed it.

    [–]PedroIsWatching 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I love how no one read your entire comment.

    [–]Labore_Et_Constantia 39 points40 points  (36 children)

    Losing weight is EXTREMELY simple, as someone who has lost 60+lbs twice in my life and been sub 8% bf, getting just to a HEALTHY range for males and women is SO fucking easy it's insane.

    Load up on protein (most satiating macronutrient) Eat tons of fiberous veggies Do some weight training Do some cardio (LISS or HIIT, whatever works better for you) Do Intermittent fasting if you have a massive appetite or eat 2-3 meals Use diet drinks/stims/appetite suppressants as needed

    Watch the weight literally drip off you. It's HARD to be overweight, people think their metabolism slows down....lol do you even basic physiology? The ONLY way to gain fat is to eat in a surplus....CONSISTENTLY and your surplus will need to CONTINUALLY rise, so this isn't a matter of eating stupid here and there, you have to be a HABITUAL dumbass to gain tons of weight.

    Now most people aren't morbidly obese, most people are just trying to lose 20-30lbs and for most of them, with a decent work ethic, this is entirely doable in 2-3 months, yet we live in such an overly pussified fucking idiotic society that people are too soft to even do this.

    What a joke, all fat people can:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0

    [–]PedroIsWatching 10 points11 points  (9 children)

    My biggest issue, and one I still have problems with, is eating out of boredom. It's a very difficult habit to break, and the only way I've found so far is to keep myself busy/distracted enough that I don't have much downtime to sit and eat. Not necessarily addressing the root issue but it's worked so far.

    [–]Labore_Et_Constantia 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    If that's an issue, you can always get sugarfree gum or just sip on a diet drink here and there. Most of them actually taste pretty good and they help keep the hunger at bay by making you a bit fuller.

    Here is a good list of low calorie food if you DO need to eat:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=159247221

    [–]1Dev_on 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Video games. I used to forget about food a lot with them

    [–]ilovemyself101 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    Although against the 'red pill' advice, when it's a rainy day or you do just want to do nothing. (Missing gym no excuse) video games are probably the best way to avoid over-eating because it brings a whole new level of immersion and entertainment

    [–]1Dev_on 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    for sure. I think the advice though is for people who VG instead of living life, so I don't feel bad for suggesting it

    [–]Gucci_do_the_dishes 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Try not having a bunch of food around that you can eat when you're bored. I could be wrong, but I'm guessing it's snack foods and stuff like that? Almost all the food I buy requires at least some amount of preparation, so unless I want to crunch on hard pasta or something boredom eating isn't really an option.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yup, If there's soda or beer in the fridge, I'll drink it without thinking about it. Any snacks in the pantry will be gone without even noticing.

    So my house is full of raw ingredients and fresh fruits and veggies. There's only so much fruit I can eat if I really do want a snack.

    [–]redkick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    The way I'm coping with that is to drink a lot of plain water. Even though it has zero calories and no sugar, it will fill your stomach temporarily, so you don't feel any hunger.

    I always have a bottle of water next to my desk (and nothing else), so instead of eating some junk food, I'm drinking a bit of water every now and then.

    [–]MickeyRoarick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Try being poor, it worked for me

    [–]Dorrog 13 points14 points  (4 children)

    In general loosing weight is about attitude. Some people cope with a stressful or boring life by eating, instead of trying to change. It's not that they don't know they are eating too much, it's that they "need" it to cope. There is really no point in trying different approaches and shit. There is a whole industry founded on getting people who don't really want to change and making them feel good by having them try some no effort bullshit, so they can justify to themselves and to others they are trying.

    Despite what they say about metabolism and other bullshit, it is fundamentally an attitude problem. If you want to you can get thin. Problem is a lot of people don't.

    [–]Labore_Et_Constantia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I don't believe they don't per se, as much as I think they view the pain:pleasure ratio swinging too much in the favor of pain.

    However it IS easy, it's just a matter of formulating a game plan around that person. Once I know the foods they like, how they like to eat, what exercise they enjoy, how much time they have, what they struggle with and their goals, it's pretty simple to design something that works very well for that person.

    [–]Transmigratory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    You nailed it: attitude.

    That is the make or break, it determines if you'll stick to a regimen and diet plan.

    [–]redkick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Some people cope with a stressful or boring life by eating, instead of trying to change. It's not that they don't know they are eating too much, it's that they "need" it to cope.

    As someone who has some issues with that, I can say that it's not as easy as it sounds. When I have a lot of stuff going on in your life and have no idea how to cope with the stress, I don't want to have to control myself on that front as well. I'd rather not have to think about keeping the intake low, and rather keep thinking about my work so I have some shelter and food in the future.

    There's only so much you can worry about at the same time.

    A few friends of mine forget about eating when they're busy, but I'm the polar opposite of that.

    [–]Endorsed ContributortrpSenator 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Losing weight is so easy, it literally requires the lack of doing something.

    [–]through_a_ways 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    The ONLY way to gain fat is to eat in a surplus....CONSISTENTLY and your surplus will need to CONTINUALLY rise, so this isn't a matter of eating stupid here and there, you have to be a HABITUAL dumbass to gain tons of weight.

    Nope. Here's a bit of "red pill" or "politically incorrect" health: polyunsaturated fats directly slow down the metabolism by interfering with the production, transport, and absorption of thyroid hormone, which causes a shift from oxidative to non-oxidative metabolism, resulting in the body using less energy (and instead storing more away as fat).

    You can easily gain fat (among many other things) by going from a strictly carb and saturated fat based diet to an isocaloric heavily unsaturated one. In fact, it's exactly what America did for the past 5 decades.

    [–]Labore_Et_Constantia 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Wrong, it's about calories in, calories out:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1333994/

    Although no one in their right mind would recommend eating ALL of your calories from saturated fats and no one would actually do this.

    [–]through_a_ways 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Nope, not wrong. I never said it wasn't about calories in/out. In general, more calories = more weight.

    I'm curious if the guy tried consuming wood or gasoline though.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21643838

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20691812

    http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11745-009-3306-6

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16216548?dopt=AbstractPlus

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8654328

    [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (12 children)

    By bmi I am morbidly obese, really I'm about 15%right now. 260 and 5'8" do the math. Trying to get to 240, but the muscle keeps coming, which I don't mind provided I can find clothes that fit and I can wipe my own ass. It is easy to lose fat, especially with more muscle. Too many people want to be lazy and inactive, then eat absolute shit. What you said works, it's just too hard for most to do anything beyond watching TV.

    [–]1Dev_on 1 point2 points  (8 children)

    You must have to waddle, if 15% at my height and 260.

    [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (7 children)

    Hardly. Muscle weighs more than fat, and I have surprisingly thick bones. I should have been taller, fucked up allergy diet when I was a kid stunted me. I look like a brick.

    [–]1Dev_on 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    thats what I mean. I meant the same waddle powerlifters have BTW. And I'm sure your ears are connected to their shoulders.

    I think biggest I've been was 210, during deployment, I couldn't even imagine 50 more pounds of mosly muscle attached.

    [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    It has drawbacks, I can't reach most of my back. Tops of my shoulders and my waistline. Because of what I was doing, my legs are big but not overly developed, there is no symmetry when mass comes from your job. I made it down to 210 back in 01 after 9/11. Stuck on Camp Doha, nothing to do so we hit the gym 4-8 hours a day, and I worked on cutting weight rather than bulking.

    [–]1Dev_on 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    funny, my deployment was when I got to 210 as well. something about stressful days and nothing to do on your downtime is great for a workout program.

    somali coast, best gym ever

    [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Camp Doha had equipment donated by the Governator, it was impressive. I missed Somalia because of pics, would've had lots of fun there.

    [–]1Dev_on 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    cool. we had rick mercer, not nearly as cool

    [–]ilovemyself101 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    Not calling ballshit. But is ' I have thick bones' really a proven thing. I only ever hear it from overweight+ people who "can't" lose weight

    [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    My wrists are over six inches in circumference, my ribs show and my chest is 50 inches around. I've broken ribs by pushing a car, not slamming into it, just steady pushing and the muscle snapped two of them, but the rest of me has grown to endure the stress my life put on me. My ribs never had to get bigger. Very wide hands, but not very long, think earthmover. Pretty good definition in my arms and chest, its hard for me to lose the bit of fat on my abs. Even in high school wrestling with my upper abs and the rest of me completely ripped, I had a thin layer of fat there. Pisses me off.

    Most people don't have the bone structure I have, even if they are fat. Its an excuse for them, annoying reality for me.

    [–]redkick 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    BMI is designed for people that don't do any sports, so in your case this simplification doesn't work.

    [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Its also based on 17th century starving French peasants. I get a kick out of it. I've been morbidly obese for a very long time.

    The only thing that rankles me about bmi is that the military uses it to set weight standards. My military job packed more than forty pounds of lean mass on me in less than a year back in 1990. Then the penalized me for being too big, performance reports were always downgraded because I wasn't a skinny little wimp. Always on the weight program even when I was ripped. All kinds of shit like that. They were going to kick me out for it one year, until I took off my shirt.

    Back in 12 I gained a bunch, got up to almost 300 because my lungs got fucked up and I couldn't cut my diet enough to compensate for being unable to walk ten feet. Hell I might not even be 260 anymore, haven't checked it in a while. Could be lighter, could be heavier, I know the body fat is going away and the muscle is popping out, that's all I care about. Not the gravitational pull exerted on me expressed in pounds. Left arm has been killing me for a month now, I should take it easy someday.

    [–]Rathadin -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

    Some of what you advise is true, most of it is complete bullshit.

    If the only way to gain fat was to eat in a surplus, then almost no one would be fat, since research has clearly shown most overweight / obese people eat no more than thin people.

    The problem is sugar. Period. That's it. Its just that simple. Too much sugar in your diet will flat out ruin your body. The insulin resistance is what causes weight gain, not overeating.

    Unfortunately, most of this research isn't well-known, and it damn sure doesn't get enough time in the media.

    [–]Labore_Et_Constantia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    LMFAO no....just no, please go spit that broscience elsewhere

    [–]through_a_ways 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I was with you until you mentioned sugar. Don't go full retard.

    [–]Xbitz 8 points9 points  (3 children)

    Just heard on the news that fat people want money now as an incentive to lose fat.

    I thought, should I get money for not walking into traffic?

    [–]TheGillos 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    You know they just want the extra money for food...

    [–]PM_Me_For_Advices 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Think we could get a reference source for this?

    [–]SuperSlavisWife 6 points7 points  (3 children)

    "since they don't have to actually gain muscle to "look good""

    I'd say this is just part of the "all women are beautiful no matter what" nonsense. As someone who has lost a significant amount of weight: it doesn't automatically make you look good. I bounced back into a human shape fairly quickly (losing weight when young helps), and even then it just made my body average (disregarding good bone structure, as that's not really what we're on about). Now, lifting weights to build the muscles helped a lot. Firmer pectorals tighten the skin around the breasts and seem to centre them. More muscles in the legs gives them the curves in the thighs and calves that every pinup girl sketch has. Untoned arms, whether on a fat or thin woman, always have a bit of bingo wing. Arms with enough muscle to round them out do not. Tight muscles around the waist and intercostals enhances hourglass figure. And we all know the obsession with girls who squat. A bit of muscle definitely improves every woman's appearance. When you look at pinups, celebrities men love and the figures men rank as most attractive, it's often a slim woman with firm hip fat, large breasts and the sort of outline that only comes from lean feminine muscle, undefined beneath a slight layer of fat.

    However we have got so used to seeing worse, so used to setting one standard (be thin, or at least don't be fat), so used to excusing women's laziness that we genuinely believe that as long as she's thin enough and not showing too many ribs, that she must be attractive. And we repeat this. Even though almost every straight man will look at a thin girl and look at a toned girl of similar composition and pick the toned girl every time.

    I guess female privilege is being classed as "one of the most beautiful" though you're still subpar and beneath your potential, simply because you have enough willpower not to eat a box of doughnuts.

    [–]CeruleaAzura 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Exactly this. I work out a lot but I could give it up and just be skinny. Yet I don't because working out makes me healthier and having muscle tone makes everyone look so much better. The majority of the celebrities that are idolized actually do work out a hell of a lot yet skinny girls are praised for their discipline. Bitch, it takes a lot more effort to eat healthily and work out 6 days a week than it does to simply eat less calories.

    [–]Rhodos 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I disagree. Being skinny vs. fat does make you look significantly better. Being fit and being healthy are two different things. Sure, skinny and fit beats skinny alone. But the truth is that most men find skinny women far better looking than fat ones, regardless of fitness level.

    [–]SuperSlavisWife 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    That was kind of my point. We've got so used to seeing fat people that just being thin makes someone appear very attractive. Biologically we are designed to seek more in a partner's appearance than "Is s/he fat or not?" Yet obesity is so prevalent that it becomes a deciding factor in how attractive someone is, making someone who is still beneath potential, who may look ill or mediocre, appear gorgeous. Think of the reaction a lot of USA and UK men have when they visit Spain or the Ukraine. It's like they've entered a world where 80% of women are a 7+ for their age group. In reality they're just seeing what humans should look like and their minds haven't yet adjusted to it.

    [–]Transmigratory 5 points6 points  (6 children)

    But... it is bloody Katie Hopkins.

    I want to agree but she's just fucking annoying. (I thought this well before discovering TRP.)

    [–]desbest 3 points4 points  (5 children)

    I read on the internet that she doesn't believe in the minimum wage, that her business does does zero hour contracts, and that all her employees are self employed so she can pay them below the minimum wage.

    [–]asymptotic_salvation 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    She also said on national television, during a breakfast show, that she thinks ill of people who name their children after geographical locations.
    The name of her daughter? 'India'...

    [–]desbest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    You cannot make that shit up.

    [–]zanthelad 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Minimum wage is a massive government imposed market inefficiency, maybe she's an anarcho-capitalist

    [–]desbest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    She said on Twitter that there'd be no NHS in 20 years so she's against that, so maybe she wants to abolish income tax like what Ron Paul wants to do.

    [–]desbest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I would agree. She also said there would be no NHS in 10 years due to the growing population. They're already having to build new schools and unemployment is too high. Back in the 90s, anyone could get a job in 1 week or sometimes 1 day.

    [–]Alan_Sex 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    She's right, but it doesn't hide the fact katie hopkins is a cunt.

    [–]Stopher 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    It will be pretty hilarious if she gains the weight and is never able to lose it.

    [–]Snivellious 5 points6 points  (6 children)

    This points out something I'd never really considered - in some ways, very high status women have reason to be supportive of the RP movement.

    • For low market value women, discouraging and bewildering men brings them control and the chance to find a beta of their own.

    • For medium status women, it frees up their options. They can ride the carousel with less judgement, and then find a higher quality man than they would historically because he's bought into the idea that he should giver he free rein and ignore her past.

    • For truly high status women, all of this breaks down. If she's hot, rich, talented, and self-aware, she doesn't need any help bagging a high status man. All she needs are a lot of options for which one to pick.

    At that point blue pill thinking starts to hurt her choices. Lots of guys never reach her level because they don't become masculine enough. The ones who do are more likely to settle for someone lower value than her because they've been taught to undervalue themselves and overvalue women (and not to try and trade up).

    The result is a whole bunch of the highest-status women decrying or avoiding feminism. Scenes like this, or Katy Perry saying she's "not a feminist, but [does] believe in strong women." Well of course she does, she's a living example of a successful, feminine woman. At the pinnacle of female success, blue pill thinking just lowers the number of potential partners.

    [–]through_a_ways -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    1) What you're saying has been described on TRP many times.

    2) I think you may be mixing up male status with female status. Male "status" is status. Female "status", IMO, is facial beauty (and not ass or hips or tits). So Katy Perry is high status, not because she is a famous rich singer, but because she has a very pretty face.

    The reason I exclude bodily features is this: Men want sex, women want commitment. Men with status have an easy time getting sex. In my own opinion, and from my chats with other men, women with pretty, attractive, delicate faces (but not other body parts) have an easy time getting commitment.

    [–]hohamocha -1 points0 points  (4 children)

    very high status women have reason to be supportive of the RP movement.

    No they don't RP is giving betas the tools to fake it till they make it to alpha. High status women want a natural alpha male. Thus they detest the RP movement.

    RP is so much more than battling feminism.

    Katy Perry saying she's "not a feminist, but [does] believe in strong women. At the pinnacle of female success, blue pill thinking just lowers the number of potential partners.

    Since when was a strong independent woman RP? Katy Perry isn't attractive because she has high status, she's attractive because she is hot. She doesn't need the status to get laid by tons of guys, it doesn't matter to her sexually. No man cares that she is a rich singer when he is thinking of fucking her. He does care that she has a hot bod. In fact the high status probably brings her down int he eyes of men. if a man could find a Katy Perry lookalike who was of normal financial and social status, he'd rather fuck her than Katy Perry

    not a feminist, but [does] believe in strong women."

    This is essentially the same thing as Emma Watson sayng, " I'm not a feminist, but gender roles are bad". Strong independent wiminz goes hand in hand with feminism, just as the concept of "gender roles are evil" does.

    [–]Snivellious 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    I oversimplified by saying "supportive of the RP movement". Something like "opposed to men becoming BP" would be more accurate. That's the same dichotomy RP always has, where women hate its dialogue and existence, but like its outcomes.

    I never claimed that being a strong independent women "is RP", I'm not even sure what that would mean. The claim was that high value women want more RP/alpha guys in the world, not that they are RP.

    And yes, we all know that "I'm not a feminist but I believe that [feminism]" is a bullshit argument. I'm not trying to point to those people, but to the decent number of high-status women who basically argue that they want to be successful women . There are a number of female celebrities who have basically said "I want to be feminine and have a strong man in my life, there's nothing wrong with that". It's basically a RPwomen attitude, and they usually pay dearly for it in the media. For an example, look at Gwyneth Paltrow saying that she isn't a feminist because things don't revolve around her, and it takes giving up some personal importance to be a good wife.

    Beyond that, I disagree completely with the assertion that most men would rather fuck a hot nobody than a hot celebrity. Yeah, being married to a celebrity would be weird as hell for a lot of guys, but fucking/dating a celebrity is a goal for a lot of guys even if she isn't hot. I know, I know, "physical attractiveness is the only meaningful trait for a woman", but that's bullshit. We all care about traits beyond those, and we should.

    Being able to buy you a Porsche, or get you into the best parties, or simply being so famous you can brag about it for life are attractive traits in a woman. The reason you wouldn't want to marry them is that they'll inevitably see you as low status (and because being a celebrity fucks people up), not because wealth and influence are unsexy. For a fling, those are assets.

    [–]hohamocha 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Being able to buy you a Porsche, or get you into the best parties, or simply being so famous you can brag about it for life are attractive traits in a woman.

    Tell me why nobody is clamoring to fuck adele then.

    [–]Snivellious 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Because looks still come first? I don't mean to suggest that "hot" isn't one of the most fundamental requirements, just that it's not the only one.

    She does have a rich boyfriend incidentally - maybe just chalk that one up to the existence of guys who like that body type.

    [–]hohamocha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    She does have a rich boyfriend incidentally - maybe just chalk that one up to the existence of guys who like that body type.

    I think its because he is her beta bux. She needs his emotional validation, and he probably thinks personality and successful women make his dick hard lol

    [–]BabarJohn 13 points14 points  (3 children)

    Seriously i don't understand trp obsession with fat chicks. We don't have to get in bed with them if we don't want to. NObody is forcing us to sleep with them. If they're happy being fat and accepting it, good for them. If some people like to have sex with them, good for them. I personnally prefer minding the women i do want, rather the ones that i don't. I thought it was common sense.

    [–]fnordsnord 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    Because there are so few hot chicks to go around.

    [–]1redpillbanana 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Cheers for her, though I can see the HAES people saying that she doesn't have a "fat condition" so of course it is easy for her to lose the weight.

    Also, this guy has already done it:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/06/05/health/drew-manning-fit2fat2fit-lessons/

    He is a PT who wanted to see what his clients had to go through to lose weight, so he gained 70lbs and then lost it again.

    I think he found a new respect for the amount of pain involved, including having to break some food and sugar addictions that he developed while gaining the weight.

    [–]1IVIaskerade 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    I must say, my respect for Katie Hopkins wasn't particularly high before, but if she actually does it (and I have no reason to think she won't), I will concede that I was wrong about her, and that she isn't a vapid socialite as I had previously thought.

    Of course, you do realise that fat people still won't lose weight because it's their "cundishuns" that make them fat, not the 3 family-sized pizzas they ate whilst telling you that.

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    [–]NakedAndBehindYou 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Gaining that much weight on purpose is a terrible idea. She will get stretch marks that will never go away no matter how much weight she loses later.

    [–]GhostOfAladdin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    The comments aren't surprising but man I wish they were. Everyone says she is "disgusting" but not because of her weight. Basically, because she thinks women get fat after eating too much food.

    Damn. What can you even say to that? Sure, there are genetic factors but they sure as heck don't amount to 70% obesity epidemic in the united states.

    P.S.: I made myself a little chubby once. I just ate what I wanted and drank beer. Then I lost the weight.

    [–]Stryker000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Radical feminists constantly masquerade body image inequality as feminism.

    But its seriously just attempting to brainwash people into thinking obesity is okay.

    Humans operate best around 60-80kg (height, gender and other factors determine what is acceptable).

    Now it is perfectly possible that there are attractive people outside of these numbers, i'll focus primarily on the heavier size since thats the way most of the western world is trending.

    The generic term for someone slightly overweight is chubby, so we'll roll with that. In a female, things like slightly larger thighs, arms, rounder face and/or cheeks, larger boobs and slightly flabby stomach area are the first suspects of being chubby, from knee to toes and elbow to fingers, neck and pelvis there shouldn't be any showing signs of being overweight, these are more commonly attributed to obesity.

    What these radical feminists are trying to do is brainwash the public into believing that fat acceptance should be a mainstream ideology and not a niche market of fetishism.

    Anyway, good on this person for trying to make a difference.

    [–]AlphamaxCouture 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Oh dear. First The Daily Mail and now Katie Hopkins. This place is falling to pieces.

    [–]raceAround126 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I have no idea who this woman is, but I don't disagree.

    Losing weight is in the mind. You have got to want to do it. I speak from experience. No, it's not easy and sometimes you do just want to go home at the end of a long day, stretch out, eat a big dinner and go to sleep.

    It's far much more effort to drag your ass down the gym and cardio bunny for an hour. It's very difficult.

    But as I just pass 85kg going downwards, it feels good!

    [–]sunshine-in 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    To be fair, she did put it in very odd terms. She is a bit of a nut job.

    I agree with what she is implying and saying, in this one particular exception. She could have said it differently.

    She claims that she can and does filter who her kids play with by what they are named. She says children named after places or locations are not someone she would let her children play with. One of her kids is named India.

    [–]boredguy93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Katie hopkins is a real bitch I hope she does it, just to shame all the fat women. the fact it's her doing it will make it all the more sweeter, as the whole of the UK hates her already.

    [–]rumo_itaki 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Gotta say she's probably going to have a hard time gaining that weight. I tried one week to have a mcd diet (coupons for 2 forthe price of one, one vburger for my mom, one for me) the third day we got extremely sick bc of the fat and meat and disgustingness. I mean a frozen pizza is only like 700-1000 kcal and 2, 50 eur. Everything is calory reduced. If i would actually eat what my body "needs" in unhealthy food that would be damn expensive.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    unless she was that weight before shes fucking over her health for her 15 minutes, how stupid.

    [–]1 Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Of course, women can't do that; they're victims of unfair "beauty standards". They can't help it that the extra piece of cake jumped into their mouths.

    Bitches have been told this shit for so long now, that they actually believe it. Society told them for such a long time, that they can't be held responsible for their actions, that they came to the belief that they actually aren't responsible for their actions.

    They are also too dumb to properly educate themselves.

    I am the only male working with 20 women who are all overweight to obese (with one exception, who - of course - get's skinny-shamed all the time) and are constantly nagging about being "on a diet". One told me for an extend of two minutes how she's doing low carb at the moment... while every now and then taking a small sip from her can filled with a sugared energy drink. "It's not carbs! It's a reward to me!"

    Gotta love these kids.

    [–]ThousandTruths 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    HAhahah, fuck fat chicks...figuratively, don't actually fuck them. Let them sweat and rot in their yeast infected flaps and tummy rolls.

    And the kankles, oh god the kankles.

    Ass fat, thigh fat, belly fat, chin fat, back fat...we got all kinds of fat in this here feminazi club.

    Fucking sheeaat, I hate fat people. Especially women.

    [–]mangofrugtjuice2 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Do you feel better about yourself now?

    [–]flubberskin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Men should lift. Women should lift. Not lifting?

    THEN YOU DON'T GET TO SAY SHIT ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE FATTY FAT FUCK

    [–]Wheatspin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Katie Hopkins is one of the most abrasive people I've ever seen the public eye fixate on but she is by far my favorite. The whole "fuck your feelings, here's some brutal honesty" is something I wish more public figures had the balls to do.

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      [–]diablo_fuentes 1 point2 points  (5 children)

      50% + diet is fastfood? Twice a week workout? Diet coke? It's going to catch up on you. Even the average American doesn't have a diet of 50% fast food.

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        [–]Suckit66 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        Don't kid yourself, fast food IS bad because it is very high in saturated fats and sodium. But, yes, calories are calories so you can still gain or lose weight eating fast food.

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          [–]Suckit66 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          I actually mainly agree with you, except you are trying to diminish how bad for you fast food can actually be. I doubt you will continue eating mainly fast food until you are 40 or 50 or 60. Saturated fats and sodium are linked to higher risk of cardiovascular disease Source 1 and Source 2. I have read sodium can help look more vascular but it's nothing like creatine, neither of which are 'gods' for building natural muscle. Diet, consistency, and progression are 'gods' of building muscle.

          I am curious what your 20 minute 2 x a week workouts look like though....

          [–]crazydave1979 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          I love it.. That chick has bigger balls then most men..

          [–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Not really. She's just trying to demonstrate higher value than her other female peers.

          It's all vapid cattiness, it's just that it happens to espouse common sense in this case.