all 185 comments

[–]bakbakgoesherthroat 90 points91 points  (2 children)

There are many guys like him in our generation, who grew up without a strong father-figure and have been inundated with blue pill values by mass media and pop culture. We are a generation of men minted and stamped by Machiavellian social engineers. Without strong father-figures to guide our growth and raise us as self-confident men, we became easy targets for social movements with agendas.

I'm glad we have a space like this where we can get good advice from older, experienced men and change ourselves to become strong, masculine, and self-sufficient.

[–]waynebradysworld 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Succinct as fuck. I found the red pill and was like "damn, literally all of this shit I've been taught my whole life".

Correlation - have strong father figure who's extremely successful with women

[–]Areimanes 127 points128 points  (41 children)

To make things worse, I know who her ex is, he is the definition of dbag, and he has rubbed it in that he fucked her before me (plus he is known for having a large dick).

I'm trying to think of the words to describe the utter disgust that comes over me if I were to put myself in his situation. I can't think of something. The guy must be humiliated whenever he sees her ex. The thoughts of knowing that he's grinning ear-to-ear whenever he sees her with him, knowing that he railed her harder, better and longer than he could. Definition of emasculation by proxy if I've ever seen it.

I'd ditch this girl and find someone else. Only solution.

I'd recommend that the guy reads up on Sex God Method, and with the next girl the first time he has sex he should immediately set the pace of the sexual encounters as he wants it (e.g. rough, multiple positions, kinky stuff, spanking, etc. etc.).

This is similar to how Rollo describes how you want to set the parameters of the initial relationship. If you appear effeminate and set yourself up to be appeasing and never hold your frame, you end up as one of those castrated men in their 30s who have that shitty coffee mug with "A man's house is his castle until the Queen arrives".

Fuck that.

Furthermore, you want a girlfriend who enjoys giving oral sex and kinky shit. I don't want obligatory sex. I'd rather fuck a hooker, at least she'd pretend to enjoy it.

Story time: A friend of mine recently lamented that his fiance is on the blob (period) so no sex for a week. I joked that surely he must be getting some oral action instead. He said "I get one of those obligatory 5 minute blowjobs where she's constantly checking her watch to see how much time has passed. She looks bored and just wants me to come so she can continue watching TV."

It reminded me of Louis CK's sketch on the saddest handjob in America.

And man, if that isn't the nightmare of every beta guy. Dating a reformed slut who has had her share of (big) alpha dick by the time she's 'ready' (read: forced) to settle for an Average John. Once even a beta realizes that, there's no saving the relationship in my opinion.

[–]Sandkasten 56 points57 points  (9 children)

Rollo also said:

Genuine desire is non-negotiable.

And this is the case here. It sounds like she feels no attraction/sexual desire for him. No counseling and no communication will fix this.

[–]King_of_Demons 12 points13 points  (3 children)

and I doubt it will ever change. He'd have to make some serious changes to his attitude, frame, body for her to ever see him like the other guy but the damage is done.

He's already dug himself a giant hole with this girl.. I'd say it would cause him less distress to cut his losses and learn from it.

[–]2trway14 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The fact that he's willing to commit to her, is already enough to turn her off. The hindbrain of a post-wall woman knows very well that no alpha with options would make her anything more than a plate.

[–]eljeffre 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hehe the dug himself a hole bit cracked me up a bit, except in this case seems like the ex dug himself a hole that OP can't fit in.

All joking aside, yeah it seems like a shitty situation for OP with no reliable solution other than moving on. 8 months may seem like a significant investment of time, but in the grand scheme it may only be a blip. Better 8 months of blip than 2 years of blob.

Although maybe she really just wants some damn good and dirty sex. So if she can only last 15 minutes before she taps out, perhaps make that the most mindfuckerous 15 minutes possible utilizing whatever kinks available.

For instance, 15 minutes of banging in a risky location like your office, her friends house at a dinner party, a church, etc. is some pretty damn good 15 minutes. Throw in some cuffs, rope, hell even a bullet vibe controlled by your smartphone, and it can get interesting. Sure the ex might have hammered her body harder than OP can, but perhaps he can fuck with her on a mental level far more. Gotta make the most of the tools we have. Would be worthwhile to at least blow her mind once before hitting the road.

[–]FerrusMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd say it would cause him less distress to cut his losses and learn from it.

He has to change anyway, because it will happen with the next girl he sees. Might as well be with this one.

[–]∞ Red Pill VisionaryRollo-Tomassi 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Here's your counseling center. Your weekly appointments are scheduled every day at 5am.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Blotter/NC_golds_gym_nt_131024_16x9_992.jpg

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Weekly appointments every day?

[–]GhostOfAladdin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

People really need to stop telling people to get counseling over a lack of arousal. It is embarrasing.

[–]FerrusMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No counseling and no communication will fix this.

But it can be fixed with upping your own alpha.

[–]pantsoffire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But will give her the all important attention and reasons to speak of the "relationship" excuses... Til an old ex flames by... Or alpha with ages gone by goggles.

[–]TakeYourSoma1 26 points27 points  (1 child)

you end up as one of those castrated men in their 30s who have that shitty coffee mug with "A man's house is his castle until the Queen arrives".

Jesus wept.

My favorite girl was my first serious girlfriend. She had some serious kinks and was more than excited to share them with me. She was even happy to give me blowjobs when I still had reservations about eating her out. I don't think I could get serious with someone who isn't like that now.

[–]OhYouPoorSOB 19 points20 points  (1 child)

You and I both know he's going to marry his current girlfriend.

And she will invite her big dick boyfriend to the wedding despite his protests.

Then she'll cheat on him while he works his ass off to pay the mortgage.

Beta bux life.

[–]WhiteE350 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Dont forget the $40k he spent on HER wedding ;) te he he

[–]IRL_TooCoolForReddit 7 points8 points  (8 children)

Jesús fucking Christ I'd be lying if I said I wasn't in this situation right now (still learning and progressing in the red pill world). When I first banged this chick (prior to knowing the red pill existed) I thought she was out of my league. She was the one asking to satisfy her kinks in bed, I let her dictate the pace, and now I'm fucked.

[–]ilphae 14 points15 points  (5 children)

Take this one as a learning experience. Start to up your game. Take the power back, she should say things like.. wow, you're not usually like this. I am surprised by you today... You will know you are on the right track.

[–]IRL_TooCoolForReddit 8 points9 points  (4 children)

I've been getting her to say these things... but not in bed. She likes to be dominated and to be honest, i'm pretty vanilla when it comes to sex. But im improving! The red pill is a life changer, and i'm sure ill have it down soon. Everything is a process.

[–]SenorPuff 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Domination is vanilla. It's the way things were intended. You don't need toys, you just need to fuck like the animal you are.

[–]RedForMe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Speaking as a fellow "vanilla" sex person, most of it has less to do with getting weird and more to do with just dictating what happens next. My "game" with my wife got 100% better when I stopped asking about the next position or the next thing I wanted to happen and I started telling her what to do next, or even better, just doing it. Even if things are going great, I sometimes just decide to switch something just so I have a direction to give her, which reinforces that this is an area where I am in charge, which is how she (and most/nearly all) women prefer it anyway. Even if I haven't improved what's happening physically, I've added something to the psychology of the experience, which makes it better.

It took me a while, but I realized you don't have to speak a word about the next position if you just flip her over without warning; she'll figure it out. The actual movements don't even have to be new or different, but the attitude shift is a game-changer.

[–]TehFuggernaut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here's one that is a good game changer - if you use condoms, pull it off and finish on her.

Choke her. See how receptive she is to it, then go for it.

Thumb. In. Butt.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sex God Method by Daniel Rose. You may not be her most alpha in a physical/appearance sense, but you can always up your dominance, emotional connection, variety, and help her to lose herself in the moment.

[–]islandbuns 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Youre only fucked if you cant keep up with her pace.

[–]FerrusMan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

and now I'm fucked.

No you aren't, that is a defeatist attitude. You've taken the red pill, you are on your way to changing for the better. Whether it happens with this girl, or the next one, you still have to change. Alpha guys don't whine about their problems, they take care of them. You want to dump her, go ahead. But you still have to change yourself and you are on your way. It gets easier.

[–]16 Endorsed Contributornicethingyoucanthave 3 points4 points  (0 children)

he has rubbed it in that he fucked her before me

There's blue pill, and then there's just being a wimp. It's not even 100% about the pathetic bf at that point. The dbag is actively disrespecting the gf by talking openly about her sexual history. Why would any man let another man get away with that? That's your woman, and some piece of shit is talking about private, intimate stuff? Yeah, chairs would fly.

[–]foldpak111 6 points7 points  (7 children)

So you're saying I'm beta cause my Dick is 6 inches

[–]SenorPuff 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Fuck no. LBJ was known for showing off his dick while in Congress. It wasnt impressive on its own, but his frame was fucking tungsten.

[–]ValarMorghulis90 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Haha I'm in the same boat as you bro

[–]t21spectre 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Average dick size for human males is 5.5 inches.

Studies have shown only 30% of women think size is important. Almost 70% of men think it is. Us men perpetuate this dick size problem far more than women.

I'm 6" too and I've never had any complaints, learned how to use it well.

[–]TehFuggernaut 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Have you ever heard a girl talk about dick size?

They're all goddamn retarded. 6" is the new 8", and every girl has banged a guy with,"OMG HE HAD A 9" DICK"

I had a conversation with a guy with a 9" dick once. He said it was fucking awful, and he resigned himself to sleeping with black girls because white girls just bled and cried.

[–]t21spectre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, those women are all retarded, and studies have shown that when the sex is good women tend to exaggerate the dick size of the man by 1 or two inches more than it really is.

Also, these women are the vocal minority

[–]boxofcookies101 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Damn. I hear all these stories of un enthusiast blowjobs. Why do they put up with it?

[–]1independentmale 13 points14 points  (6 children)

I was married for 15 years to a bitch who didn't put my dick in her mouth once in the first 14 years. I was so blue pill I might as well have been a goddamn smurf. She was a "good Christian girl" who "didn't do those things." I bought it hook, line and sinker.

When I told her I wanted a divorce she decided to tempt me to stay with constant sex and BJs. Didn't work, in fact it pissed me off even more (you fucking held out on me for half of my life?!). I did extract 14 years worth of oral from her in that last year, though... Quit masturbating and just put it in her mouth every time I needed some release. Almost daily.

[–]zuk1 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I'm so glad I'm never getting married. I'm 23 and some people in my social group are starting to get married like it's some great thing. I feel sorry for them lol.

[–]Endorsed Contributorn0c0ntr0l 5 points6 points  (3 children)

7 years and those friends of ours that are getting married are going to start getting divorced.

[–]16 Endorsed ContributorCyralea 5 points6 points  (1 child)

7? Damn, you have some persistent friends. I've already started seeing it at the 4 year mark.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A four year old child is fairly self sufficient most of the time. Studies/statistics show this is a common time frame for break-ups.

[–]JosephBarryLee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol you forgot about the poor kid in 2.5-3 years "We're pregnant!!!"

[–]Newdist2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Had she done those things with other men before you were married? What was her N?

[–]asdfghjkltyu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've never known an ex of a girl I dated ever.

But now I why current boyfriends of women I have dated act weird as fuck around you. I never even considered the fact they have mental images of you two fucking.

[–]1too_long_didnt_read 77 points78 points  (7 children)

Who cares who fucked who first? Its about who fucked who last

Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahah

Yes, the guy who got the sloppy seconds is the winner clearly.

The fact they think they can so passively redefine a woman's SMV is hilarious.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (1 child)

The clear winner will be her 3rd husband.

[–]2asd1100 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Dude you got to protect the woman, it's a social prerogative.

[–]bangbangahah 7 points8 points  (1 child)

This is the ultimate sign of pedestal.

People who brag about sloppy seconds, or sloppy 62nds in many cases are the ultimate betas.

I got sex in the ends guys!! I win!!!

[–]∞ Red Pill VisionaryRollo-Tomassi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Its about who fucked who 'best' and who keeps pining for it.

[–]DRMMR76 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Never be in an LTR with someone who chooses not to make you their primary(read:only) male. By choosing to have boring sex with her current bf, she is demonstrating that she cares more about the dbag ex than him. That is unworkable. He needs to give her one chance to fix it once and for all. Show him that he is her man by giving him she gave everyone else. There is simply no excuse for that "I used to have awesome sex/anal/BJs/etc with my exes, but not with you" attitude. It's pure unfiltered disrespect, and it shouldn't be tolerated by any man.

And frankly, saying give her one more chance to fix it is probably not even going to work. The fact is if she does she probably won't actually want to, but will only do it out of obligation. That will lead to resentment and spite. The fact is if your girl doesn't want to give you earth-shattering sex it shows that she doesn't care about your pleasure. Which directly translates to her not really caring about you. It's even really the sex that's the issue. It's the lack of desire. She doesn't actually desire you. She tolerates you because being with you has some sort of payoff (for now).

Of course nothing I just said hasn't been said a million times on TRP and for much longer than I've been here. But it needs to be restated every time one of these posts comes up. You never know if there's some cuckolded guy just discovering TRP and reading this. Those men need to be told how things really are, just as many of us had to discover it. The sooner they figure it out, the better off they'll be.

Never let a woman dictate terms to you. You are the captain of your own life. They can either choose to join you on your journey and enjoy making your journey theirs, or they can choose to find someone else. That's the essence of frame. I am a man. I will live my life on my terms. Those terms will not change for you. Take it and enjoy, or leave it. It makes no difference to me.

[–]foldpak111 27 points28 points  (64 children)

The funniest part is they spent three. Fuckin. Hours. Fuckin. Good lord. What are they in high school? How do you find the time?

[–]1rlh1271 48 points49 points  (41 children)

I have a feeling she was exaggerating. It might have FELT like 3 hours from her perspective, or they fucked multiple time over the course of 3 hours, but I seriously doubt any man would want to fuck for 3 hours straight, unless he had snorted a mixture of cocaine, whiskey, and viagra. There comes a point where I'm tired, she's been satisfied and I want to finish and get back to whatever I was doing.

edit: some of you are either deluded or suffering from too much time on your hands. I've never attempted to last 3+ hours in the sack. Is it possible? Maybe. But why would you want to? I've got other shit to do that does not include fucking/edging myself for that long. Make her cum a few times, finish up and get back to man business.

[–]Endorsed ContributortrpSenator 19 points20 points  (19 children)

Shit, even with VIAGRA and MDMA, I'm not going past an hour... Sorry, it's just not fucking happening.

I'm trying to think wtf there is to do for even an hour and half of having sex that doesn't involve BDSM or some shit. After 30 minutes my dick is fucking raw.

[–]svogliate 11 points12 points  (7 children)

I fucked a girl for 12 hours once. On and off, and we watched godzilla movies and ate and bathed together too, but we were fucking for most of the time. I was 39 years old at the time, too. Surprised myself.

It did require a little Cialis assist. And she was a crazy borderline and they're good in bed.

[–]Toctsx 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Oh yeah? Did you have a dick THIS BIG too?

[–]svogliate -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Your Napoleon complex is showing, man. Hold a little frame.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Same here. About 12 hours is my longest. Crazy, crazy sex almost non stop. 'Twas fun.

Only drug involved was alcohol.

[–]kennethjc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The crazy ones always are, hahaha

[–]Fetish_Goth 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Cialis assist.

Did she know?

I used to be an addict, and so years of abuse left me with ED. I have to use Cialis sometimes. I'm paranoid about girls finding out, since I am only 32.

[–]svogliate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know if she knew that first day, I definitely told her later.

For those who don't have ED - I don't - Cialis is a recreational drug. There's no reason you couldn't frame it that way too. Stuff's fun, it prevents something where after I've cum a couple times I might be fucking and go 3/4 hard, still hard enough to fuck but definitely noodle-y. With Cialis that doesn't happen, flag stays at full mast through the whole thing. This particular girl liked dick, I told her it made it more fun for me to be fully stiff for her, and she was totally OK with that.

[–]Shooter-Mcgavinn 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Couldn't agree more. If you're doing it properly half an hour is plenty.

[–]zuk1 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You crazy. Put me on any stimulant and I will potentially have sex for up to 5 hours. I might come 5+times in those 5 hours, sometimes only a couple.

Never had sex on MDMA though for some reason.

[–]Fetish_Goth 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You can't cum on MDMA. It feels good enough not to matter, though.

[–]zuk1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some can. It's not impossible just hard.

[–]foldpak111 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Women always do this. This girl I was seeing in January was bragging about how she fucked her boyfriend 3 times a day for 3 years straight. He was on drugs.

[–]LittleCrazee 5 points6 points  (5 children)

At the risk of sounding like a braggart or that I'm full of shit, I'm damn near 40 and have banged my new girlfriend several times now for 2 plus hours. Once was very close to 4 hours. Each time there would be the occasional rest for a couple of minutes here and there but pretty much just continuous pounding. You'd be surprised what you can do with good health, a great piece of ass and a lot of rum.

[–]OakTr3E 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Although I am sure a lot of people here are exaggerating/making things up. Being in good health certainly helps. Especially doing cardio regularly can increase your (physical) time to exhaustion by several-fold. Combine that with a whiskey-dick or just rest a bit after first session and try a second one and you can easily prolong the next session by a huge amount. At least if you want to and have the discipline to stay away from orgasm and just enjoy her moaning and going crazy.

[–]alpha_n3rd 2 points3 points  (1 child)

"whiskey-dick" is when you can't get it up b/c you drank too much.

[–]enticingasthatmaybe -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No. Whiskey dick is when you're so drunk you can't feel shit and can never cum with a cock as hard as granite.

[–]LittleCrazee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You sir are exactly right. Good health is paramount at any age to a good sex life. Cannot stress that enough.

[–]DasWood 2 points3 points  (2 children)

3 hours isn't anything special. I've fucked for about as long before. Sometimes it's 10 minutes, other times it's hours and hours until you're ready to collapse from exhaustion and thirst and she's an unintelligible pile of jelly.

[–]SenorPuff 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Morning/midmorning sex always takes me longer. I think it's the hormones.

[–]16 Endorsed ContributorCyralea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your testosterone levels are highest in the morning. Testosterone is known for increasing pain tolerance via lessening the impact of sensation. That's why you're able to last longer.

[–]sir_wankalot_here 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Depends what you define as fucking for three hours straight. It is like long distance running you have to pace yourself. I need to find another LTR GF who is into threesomes, but I am getting lazy in my old age. Earlier this year when I had one, wife, exGF and I would rent a cottage for a couple of day and we would be at it from morning to night. We would just take breaks to go out and eat meals and stuff. Usually all three of us planned to go and see other attractions but we never seemed to make it out of bed except for meals.

[–]1rlh1271 7 points8 points  (5 children)

three hours straight

What I define as fucking for 3 hours straight. Taking breaks is multiple times over the course of the day.

[–]SenorPuff 0 points1 point  (4 children)

When you're young, your reset timer is pretty quick. I consider 20 of dick rest but still going at it, a straight fucking. If you took 45+ off, or actually ceased the activity, that might be a stretch. If she's a good girl I'll show off what I can do with my mouth while I recover.

[–]tsotha 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Your reset timer may be quick when you're young, but so is your, eh, timer. When I was 17 I was ready to go again after five minutes, but 90 seconds later it was over.

[–]alpha_n3rd 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Should have practiced edging. When I was 17 I could achieve a continuous orgasm for pretty much as long as I wanted. Wish I could still do that now...

[–]tsotha 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Heh heh. Well, this was before the internet. Everything I knew about sex was from the sex ed class at school and sneaking peeks at dad's stack of Playboys.

[–]alpha_n3rd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Believe me there wasn't much on the Internet yet. If you could find JPG porn you were happy but there was still a lot of GIF porn.

Anyway it was a skill I mastered shortly after I learned to masturbate at about 11 or 12. Came in handy when I finally got a real girlfriend.

I noticed I wasn't able to do that anymore sometime in my early to mid 20s.

[–]SenorPuff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All my marathon sessions have been weekends in college. You gotta work hard, pace yourself, and have something to do in your recovery time between bouts. Longest I ever did was 6 hours, but there were a handful in the 3-4 range too.

[–]alpha_n3rd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to fuck for three hours straight. When i was 18. Eventually my GF's pussy would get raw and she'd kick me off her.

[–]Fetish_Goth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to have marathon sex a lot before I got married, and I had it during a couple affairs when my wife stopped trying, and now I have it after divorce. I'll admit, it used to be the drugs and shit, but now it's a combination of liquor, kink, and pent up desire from years of boring perfunctory sex. It's a lot of fun, although girls seem to get more out of it than I do. I cum once. They cum dozens of times. It's not an every day thing, though. Ain't nobody got time for that.

With the right girl, it's a lot of fun, because she is looking forward to it as much as you. It feels nice having something to look forward to on a weekend.

[–]CSMastermind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How are we defining 3 hours? In a couple of cases I've spent an entire weekend having sex, with breaks in between for meals, hanging out in a hot tub, etc.

[–]UrsusG 8 points9 points  (2 children)

News at eleven: people exaggerate!

[–]coolguy1793B 5 points6 points  (1 child)

This just in - people make shit up on the interweb

[–]arrayay 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Actually, it says:

How she went at it for 3 days for hours at a time.

People need to read closer. I guess it doesn't really change it though. A 3 day sex marathon means they were probably in school or on welfare.

[–]SenorPuff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Have been in college. Weekend marathon sex sessions are top.

[–]bassivemalls 10 points11 points  (11 children)

Delayed ejaculation is real. I could literally go all night and not orgasm before I stopped watching porn.

[–]1Watermelon_Salesman -1 points0 points  (10 children)

I could literally go all night and not orgasm before I stopped watching porn.

I don't get it. What does watching porn have to do with delaying orgasm?

[–]OneTouchHowMuch 8 points9 points  (6 children)

Penis is less sensitive from constant masturbating to porn so it takes longer to cum.

[–]foldpak111 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I wouldn't generalize this. For most people, it trains them to last shorter. It's scientifically proven that masturbating to porn can lead to ED.

[–]OneTouchHowMuch 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You are incorrect. Porn is a hyper-stimulus. Meaning you can masturbate and orgasm more frequently if you are watching porn than without.

Frequent masturbation leads to less sensitivity in the nerves of the penis which results in being able to last longer without orgasm.

Porn leads to ED because of the hyper-stimulating nature of it. A long-time user won't get turned as much with a live (real) human because it's not as stimulating as having it on-demand, any position, any time, multiple girls, etc...

It's similar to eating only fast food every day for years then someone hands you some plain rice and broccoli (real food) and it'll taste extremely bland. So bland that you may not even want to eat it despite saying you're hungry.

[–]bluedrygrass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True that. Expecially when you're doing it hiddenly to avoid being caught, like if you're living with someone else, etc.

You literally train your brain to get off quick.

[–]1Watermelon_Salesman -1 points0 points  (2 children)

That's not what he said. He said he could last longer before he stopped watching porn.

[–]OneTouchHowMuch 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Correct. Before he stopped porn, he felt the effects of less nerve sensitivity and therefore could go longer.

We can extrapolate that now he has stopped porn, he cannot last as long because his nerves are more sensitive.

[–]1Watermelon_Salesman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, right. My mistake, then.

[–]arbyq5000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he's only trained; he hasn't performed

[–]SenorPuff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Desensitivity. Literally, his dick doesn't care for pussy because he's saturating it with simulation.

[–]reddiforlove 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Time flies when you're having fun.

[–]100 Modbsutansalt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Friday and Saturday nights, lazy Sundays, and maybe regular sex during the week.

[–]2asd1100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need to find yourself a crazy bitch and have a sex weekend.

[–]honknox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had sex for hours when I was in highschool like that. 1) I didn't come cause of the drugs 2) We had a fuckton of free time

[–]Bronotrelevant[🍰] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I would get rug burn after a while.

[–]FapAttack123 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"We all did things when we were younger" - they're giving him RP advice without even realizing it. Dump this used up slut and find your own fresh low 20-something and be the one she has her crazy times with. Obviously he first needs to read up on how to fuck properly and be dominant and memorable in the sack.

[–]TeasingPenguin 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Everytime i see the word counseling I cringe, like counseling was ever needed for hundreds of millions of years.

AF/BB has always been in place, all I hear about counseling is that it's usually the man that's getting told off for not doing enough for his wife even though he's doing the most.

A female counselor would be even worse if she is prone to hamstering herself or knows exactly why a woman would lose interest, but it's in their best interest money wise to keep the girl happy, because if the girl isn't happy and she doesn't hear what she wants to hear she would probably stop going to counseling for some Shit hamster excuse.

[–]foldpak111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the counseling men need http://youtu.be/0GI_zkmd700

This documentary is therapeutic because of how transferable the story is. If you were born an omega and were the black sheep of your family, you can ditch them and go your own way. It will be hard and Dangerous, but the rewards can potentially outweigh the risks. You can work your way up to alpha. Never forget the rule that no one wants to see a lower rank male move up. Everyone is disgusted by it, even your own family and 'therapist.' in this world, you're on your own.

[–]R4F1 4 points5 points  (6 children)

From one of the responses:

Who cares who fucked who first? Its about who fucked who last, unless of course you pride yourself on your failed relationships.

As for her vagina - if it defies medical explanation, it is probably mental. All said and done, it definitely has nothing to do with the d-bag's man-hammer.

Even for a white knight, s/he's still got a nugget of truth in there.

[–]ilphae 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It's true. The vag can only recover with exercise. So, if your chick took a lot of dicks and is generally lazy, then that thing is going to feel like fucking Shaq's Nikes. But, if she regularly works on her core or even does basic exercise, it wont matter too much.

Consider, many professional working girls are able to hold a pencil in there with muscle power. If it's tight enough for a pencil, it's good enough for your favorite retractable pen.

Easy women that crave huge dicks are also lazy. They are seeking that tight fit but don't want to do any work. They will be boring dead fish in bed.

I highly recommend a fit active woman that is sexually open. She will give back and share the work in bed. She will keep up with your active lifestyle. All around good fun.

[–]SenorPuff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll go further: you're the prize. Unless you're just starting out, why the hell are you even considering girls who aren't ridiculously fit?

[–]2asd1100 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

no, there is a massive difference between a fresh pussy and a worked out vagina. Not only in how it feels but also in how it works.

If she had sex marathons with a "man hammer" I assure your average 15 minutes won't do it for her anymore. Even on those special night when you work hard and punch out a half a hours you will be greated with : nice try-

Stop believing the femi-science, that being a slut has not consequence. It very much does, espectially mentally. If she had a 9 you can be the best 8 ever and she still won't feel okay, she still will have doubts and she still will wonder if she can do better and if she is a cunt will try to do better.

[–]R4F1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's not really what I was going for.... I'm not talking about the actual pussy itself. I was alluding to the fact that for that women, the fact that she gave it up for Mr. D-Bag and not to Mr Nice, is purely "mental". He's too Beta to stimulate her emotions/psyche and give her that tingly feeling that D-Bag did to get her to go through with a 3 hr sex marathon, while Mr Nice can barely get 15 mins out of her.

[–]enticingasthatmaybe 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's less physical than it is mental for her. Getting pounded for hours straight by a 9 - 10" man-hammer is going to seriously fuck with her idea of what sex is supposed to be like. Once you taste filet mignon it's hard to go back to eating bologna.

[–]2asd1100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really with the idea of what it=s suppoesed to be like, it's more fucking with her ability to be fullfiled by normal.

She knows that isn't average.

And that is trying, she would be fucked raw if that would have been the norm even in her relationship.

The issue is, that you know that once every full moon or winter solstice you can clean your but hole fast for 24 hours and tell that beast of a lover to have at it until you can see stars.

The issue isn't that she only wants fillet mignon now, the issue is that she knows she can't have it with from her current chef, ever! And women hate not being able to have something.

p.s. fillet mignon is overrated and some bologna is amazing.

[–]Tom_The_Human 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This always amazes me: guess what, Nice GuysTM , if a girl reacts better to "dbags", she is more sexually attracted to them. It doesn't matter how many Nice GuyTM points you collect in your pursuit of pussy, the most you'll ever get is pity sex.

[–]universalproduct 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Jokes on her she's with the loser

[–]2asd1100 15 points16 points  (0 children)

No she isn't, she got the great sex and now she gets the commitment.

She is just copping with the dichotomy of modern manliness.

You can't settle with alphas and you can't get exited about betas. She is just making the best out of a fucked up situation, you can't blame her for it.

[–]∞ Red Pill VisionaryRollo-Tomassi 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It’s no longer about buying the cow when you can get the milk for free anymore. It’s about the cow milking herself and giving it away to Alpha Fucks in her peak years and then expecting you to buy her just before she’s gone completely dry.

http://therationalmale.com/2013/12/03/saving-the-best/

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. Thank you. THANK YOU! This is the post that I read sometime over Christmas break 2013 that "struck me like a diamond bullet, right in the middle of my forehead." I had had over 95% of TRP, but didn't see the whole thing. I don't know why this resonated with me, I mean, that wasn't how my ex was, but somehow it shattered all my previously impenetrable illusions about female sexuality, and 2014 is my best year ever for spinning plates. (Actually, it's the first time I've ever had more than one girl (on the regular) at the same time.) I've also been able now to share this enlightenment with 4 other honorable and grateful men.

Again, thank you sir.

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    [–]1Watermelon_Salesman 19 points20 points  (10 children)

    maybe a tattoo and some attitude

    Oh please, not a tattoo. I see no need to tell men to do degenerate shit, that's shitty advice, as there's no class at all in an inked body. Leave tattoos for jailed thugs and fucking indians in the amazon. I know we all want to look like bad boys, and women love criminals, but seriously, are we that desperate?

    James Bond would never have a tattoo.

    [–]MickeyRoarick 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    If you want to date degenerate women you should receive degenerate advice.

    [–]1Watermelon_Salesman 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    This is my point: if you've come to the point in which you're scribbling permanent shit on your own skin in order to put your penis inside some purple haired whore with two pounds of metal hanging from her face, then you're really fucking desperate and shouldn't be proud of yourself.

    [–]foldpak111 0 points1 point  (6 children)

    I'm getting a tattoo tomorrow night just to rustle your Jimmie

    [–]1Watermelon_Salesman 3 points4 points  (5 children)

    Just think at how great you'll look at sixty with your arm displaying a skull with a snake coming out of its eye sockets.

    Why not ink a black tear under your eyelid as well? That's what all the cool kids are doing. Maybe some dollar signs on your knuckles?

    Such a classy grampa!

    [–]K1ngcr3w 2 points3 points  (4 children)

    There are two types of tattoos, and you can clearly identify the two just from seeing them.

    There's the in the moment tattoo and the meaningful tattoo. Both are clearly different. Getting a tattoo which does not mean something to that person is so idiotic it's ridiculous and they always come to regret it, but that's their choice. If they want to mark up their body then let them. Just know that there is a different between tattoos and you can always tell the two apart.

    [–]foldpak111 -5 points-4 points  (3 children)

    I'm getting an in the moment tattoo just to piss him off

    [–]1Watermelon_Salesman 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    You realize we don't know each other, right?

    [–]foldpak111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yes we do. We hung out at bruces yesterday

    [–]K1ngcr3w 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Whatever floats your boat man!

    [–]2asd1100 1 point2 points  (6 children)

    Attitude is enough. The issue is she signed on to get a easy beta boy, flipping the switch will not go well. She knows you are weak.

    [–]FerrusMan 0 points1 point  (5 children)

    She knows you are weak.

    No, she thinks you are weak. It's only a matter of time to wear her down with enough alpha and then she realizes you've changed. You are right flipping the switch will not go well, but it will go one way or the other.

    [–]2asd1100 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    She knows, it's quite obvious after you steped on the other side. You only delude yourself in thinking "Nobody knows", but it's really obvious.

    she realizes you've changed.

    Does she? or does she think that you learn some tricks that warrant her attention.

    [–]FerrusMan 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    That's what I mean, when you have changed. Not when you have picked up tricks, or tried something temporary, it's when you have actually changed. At first she will doubt it, etc, but at some point she will realize that the "new" you is permanent. Now, that still doesn't mean that she will change as well, but when you start drawing other female attention it becomes a moot point. Eventually you get to a point where you think to yourself, why am I hanging around with this woman who treats me like this, wtf is wrong with ME ?

    [–]2asd1100 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    she will doubt it, etc,

    Do you hear yourself, or have you never seen a woman defend her position in a relationship before? doubt is eufemistical, when you grab your relationship and manhandle it, you are messing with her at a primal, fundamental level.

    You think she puts up a fight when you take a wrong turn while driving, you have seen nothing. When a man takes control back from a woman it is a violent internal repulsion as you are becoming a very imediate threat to her world view.

    You can negotiate away arguing you are a new man but she can't believe that, not at that primal level. The douchebag will always be the doucebag, the beta will always be the beta. Your only real hope is to step up and be a man when a trully imense issue comes up that she is completely unsuited to handle. (but even that is difficult because usually a woman that has a pussy for a mate has some back ups and she will fight you at every turn because she is convinced you can't handle it, you really need to be her last desperate option and you need a really impressive win)

    [–]FerrusMan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    She most certainly can believe it, even at a primal level. It only takes a man, by his actions, showing her, and time for her to believe that he has changed. The problem is that it may take other female interest in you, and by then it might be too late. When a beta turns to alpha, and discovers just how easy pussy is out there, worrying about one single woman doesn't become such a priority.

    We will just have to disagree on this.

    [–]2asd1100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    That has not been my experience. Turning betas around is kinda my thing.

    Just out of curiosity where are these understanding women from? Do you live in a anglosaxon country?

    [–]islandbuns 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    Thats the stupidest fucking shit ive ever heard. Her ex demanded 3 hours of sex ? How bout she was actually completely turned on and dick whipped by him that their sexual chemistry just happened like that. You gotta be fucking kidding me talking this demanding better sex shit.

    [–]islandbuns 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Whoever her current boyfriend is sucks in bed or shes using him for something else.

    [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil 10 points11 points  (12 children)

    The only way it is possible to have sex for three hours is if you are taking drugs. Cabergolin a prolactin inhibitor delays ejaculation so does Viagra. AAS use leads to a very high sex drive.

    [–]simplegreen1990 8 points9 points  (3 children)

    It is entirely possible without drugs, build some stamina

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    Yeah, I don't get the resistance to this. I've had sex from sundown to sunup, 10-12 orgasms, with no drugs except some alcohol. I mean it's not a normal occurance or anything, who has time for that? But it's certainly possible.

    Pound, oral, pound, come, oral, oral, pound, pound... You sleep well the next day :) After about the third orgasm you, once back up with extended oral, you can go forever.

    [–]simplegreen1990 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I could not agree more on that last bit, I imagine its a similar feeling for distance runners

    [–]1independentmale 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Nah man, you're assuming the entire 3 hours are constant pounding. That's probably not the case.

    I've had sex for several hours straight on many occasions. Start out with some rubbing, licking, sucking. Do some oral, fuck her titties, finger her, pull her hair, spank her ass. 69 for awhile, cum in her mouth, then spend half an hour with my head between her legs while big Jim recovers... There's an easy hour plus right there and I haven't even busted out the box of toys yet.

    After that first nut & recovery period it's easy to fuck her for a couple more hours. Especially if she likes it slow and deep, there's less stimulation and less physical work to tire a man out. Change positions on the regular and keep going until that second explosion eventually comes and wipes me out or she gets sore and can't take anymore.

    Ain't nobody going to town on a bitch like a jackhammer for 3 straight hours for sure, the physical exhaustion alone would knock out all but the best athletes, but 3 hours of mixed action sex sounds like a Sunday afternoon to me.

    [–]Here2lrn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    The only way it is possible to have sex for three hours is if you are taking drugs.

    Speak for yourself.

    [–]2asd1100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Nah, a hot crazy girl is all I need.

    [–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Au contraire. I did it almost daily in my mid twenties. No drugs whatsoever.

    [–]LittleCrazee 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Drugs or alcohol you mean. At least you should mean it that way.

    [–]reasonableman1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I'm going to have to back up the rest of the guys on here. It is totally possible to have sex for 3 hours at a time. On one memorable night, an ex and I went until the sun came up. There are a few things that seemed to allow this to happen:

    • She would always blow me as the first thing of the night. As with most guys, this would get me to a state where it took a lot longer to cum the second time.
    • I would have to start out slowly and build slowly with a good amount of concentration on keeping myself from cumming. This became second nature after a while.
    • I would have to take breaks and go down on her if I started getting closer to cumming.
    • We were very sexually compatible. She wasn't so tight that it made me cum too quickly.
    • I suspect that the NO-xplod energy drink I would have right before my 5pm workout may have helped out. I suppose that it is similar to viagra in that it helps with nitric oxide. It also is loaded with caffiene so that gave me energy to keep going for quite a while. I guess that might count as "drugs".
    • I've always had an easy time getting hard again after having sex, so there have been plenty of times when I would cum and be ready to continue the marathon shortly thereafter, sometimes while never breaking rhythm.

    However, I think this guy needs to stop whining and be able to do it himself. I'm pretty sure she isn't going to complain if he can keep at it for 30-45 minutes without cumming, even if he is switching up between his dick and other methods of stimulating her.

    My ex complains that she can't find a guy who isn't spent for the night after 15 minutes in the sack. Before me, she didn't know that 3 hour sex was a real thing. I don't think I'm anything special, but it's nice to know that I've let a girl know that that kind of thing exists.

    [–]GhostOfAladdin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    They got 99 problems, beta bux is one. Downvotes, hit me!

    [–]hyberia 1 point2 points  (6 children)

    I know that when my ex an I used to have sex, it was such a turn on when he would just grab me, push me against a wall, and have his way. Now if I ever go to bars or clubs, the guys are so timid and wary. It's a definite turn off. I imagine it translates into relationships, too. What a shame.

    [–]angryuser_trp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It's difficult to do to someone you don't know at all since it's apparently very fashionable to be a rape victim these days.

    [–]Yoda7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Men are so crazy. They dont want to get sent to Guantano Bay for having consensual sex with their Gf. Pussies.

    [–]islandbuns 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    You want men you dont know being that physically aggressive at the club ? Ok.

    [–]enticingasthatmaybe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    She means if the guy is timid and awkward when he just meets her, there is zero chance he's going to be aggressive and powerful if they get naked together.

    Also, you can have an aggressive and powerful demeanor about you in the club without touching her at all.

    [–]YoMammaSoThin -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    I think she means to say that the attitude is timid, and it shows that they are incapable of it. She is saying most men are like OP's referred beta.

    [–]FerrusMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Not sure why you are downvoted, this is red pill 100%.

    [–]dardanmm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yeah "drunk" lol sure

    [–]imeanthatscool 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    I've totally been in a similar situation. When I was with my ex she gave me oral here and there but only as a warm up to sex...never just oral the whole way. She tells me one day she sucked some dude's dick for an hour and a half back in the day. I was so pissed at that moment because that's NEVER something she would have done for me. Total burn. Horrible feeling.

    [–]FerrusMan 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    At least you learned it before you got married like me. The funny thing is that early in my marriage I discovered that getting upset with my wife would lead to blowjobs for some inexplicable reason. Which I refused to do back in the day because I felt it was wrong. ("I'm not going to get mad at her just to get a blowjob") Now of course I understand the dynamics, it was a display of alpha, making her more attracted to me. Thank god for the red pill.

    [–]imeanthatscool 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I agree, the red pill is incredibly helpful. I'm new here though, and I was wondering what article(s) would be a good intro for me...like the basics of the whole game...if there is one, that is.

    [–]FerrusMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Read everything on the right hand panel.

    [–]kanaduhisfruityeh 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    If a woman doesn't give me her best then I'm not fucking with her. Period. That's why I don't deal with used up women. If she wouldn't give me the 18 year old puss, then I'm not investing in the postmenopausal old leftover. I don't care how old I am.

    [–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    How will you know if it is her best?

    http://therationalmale.com/2013/12/03/saving-the-best/

    [–]BluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Exactly WHO does the fucking?

    Obviously the Beta can't fuck her for 3 hours and why is that the girls fault?

    AWALT. They will ALL try to cut back the quality and most of all the quantity of sex. It is a SHIT TEST! You are only not getting her best because you don't DEMAND it.

    Dread, it's what's for dinner.

    [–]derkonigistnackt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    lol, I knew that article would end up here as soon as I saw the title

    [–]shcwaig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It's difficult to read things like this. It makes me sick

    [–]evafha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The taste in my mouth is like when the dentist doesn't clean out that paste stuff very well and you swallow a little by accident.

    [–]satisfyinghump 0 points1 point  (6 children)

    I told him to come over here and try to learn why he is wrong for being with her. Hopefully he can find some support here.

    [–]2asd1100 1 point2 points  (5 children)

    No, if the dude wants her so much that he is sticking with it we can't change that.

    Staying in a bad relationship is the path of least resistance. Without changing his attitude of gratefull puppy we can't do anything for him.

    [–]satisfyinghump -1 points0 points  (4 children)

    Well that's what I'm hoping happens. That he stops being 'grateful'. I'm glad this was posted here. Maybe this one time, he can be helped.

    [–]2asd1100 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    Some people love their sentence, because the at least in prison someone gives a shit about them. Freedom is harder than the poems make it out to be.

    [–]satisfyinghump -1 points0 points  (2 children)

    I don't understand, what does any of this have to do with prison?

    [–]2asd1100 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Marriage is a emotionally secure prison. There is certainty, continuity and value.

    As a bachelor you need to work for those things.(or not, if you are so inclined)