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[–]unpluggedoasis 173 points174 points  (33 children)

Incredible science success - I was honestly amazed when I read about. Those guys can wear whatever they want they achieved something unthinkable. The speed the comet is travelling at is incredible literally no calculation could be wrong.

He could be casually getting sucked off during the interview and I'd be A -OK with it.

[–]JayGatsbyFan[S] 95 points96 points  (31 children)

To touch more on this (since I agree), let's put this in perspective: This spacecraft traveled 300,000,000 miles which took 10 years. It landed on a comet traveling 30,000 mph. So many things will be learned from this mission! We could answer questions like how water was brought to Earth, the origins of comets, and if we can possibly dock on one in the future and attach thrusters to deviate a comet's trajectory that's heading straight for Earth. That's important. It's an amazing feat for humanity (which includes men and women.. gasp) and these small brain political ideologies have no place in this conversation. Just sit back and marvel at the human ingenuity.

[–]Espiritu13 73 points74 points  (14 children)

This is where the US looks like complete fucking idiots. She is an American commenting on a guy from Europe who wears that because their culture doesn't care.

Seriously, I do not understand why she thinks she's so important as to think that a whole different country/culture would give a flying fuck about her short lived outrage about a T-Shirt. From a fucking tatted up guy none the less. Why is that surprising and why should someone from a completely different country even give a fuck?

[–]JayGatsbyFan[S] 68 points69 points  (2 children)

Because narcissism is a mental disorder.

[–]vultus 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Hahaha I actually think it is. Definitely more than a personality trait. Someone who's born a narcissist usually dies a narcissist.

[–]teeelo 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'd argue that it's learned behaviour.

[–]ArchetypalSage 9 points10 points  (4 children)

The article was actually written by a man with some added "insight" from a woman.

[–]Nettom 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Check out these staff responses from the Guardian at the bottem about this subject: https://archive.today/5VkjW

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That article is exactly the drama shit that attempts to take the spotlight off male accomplishment and put it onto misogyny. The entire article is an exercise in sexism.

Notice her pumping up the one woman celebrating the landing. Just another attempt to shine a positive spotlight back onto women, and off the accomplishment itself.

[–]ColTreize 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"All of this raises multiple questions, not least why people in science aren’t routinely trained to be more aware of such issues."

Maybe because we are too busy in school and work studying and solving real problems.

[–]krakosia 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This in a microcosm explains why it's the ESA and not the NASA which launched this mission

[–]Red_SoloCup 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Exactly. The culture over in Europe is entirely different regarding nudity. Whereas our culture restricts nudity to rated R movies and very late-night TV broadcasts, and public nudity is very recently becoming a somewhat-tolerated thing (shirtless women! what a great step!), over in Europe the views on sex and violence are flipped. I know for a fact in Germany (and I would assume a good amount of the rest of the continent) the rules are way more lenient about nudity, so much so that you'll see it in standard TV and nude beaches are more common. However, you'll never catch a violent TV show before 8 or 9 PM.

This is IMO one of the worst types of feminism. Being offended by someone else's entire culture to the point where you try to put your own culture above theirs is absolute bullshit. If you really want "equality" you'll let everyone do their own damn thing. There's a reason why they're saying that they're bewildered: because they are. There's a vast difference between USA and Europe, and instead of knee jerk reacting and coming off as a pompous twat, (s)he should just take a step back and look at where the man is coming from.

Also, landing on a comet is fucking sick. This is absolutely huge, and the fact that it's a side note to a damn shirt is absurd.

Edit: words.

[–]Glenbert 12 points13 points  (1 child)

This is IMO one of the worst types of feminism.

Hells, yeah.

Being offended by someone else's entire culture to the point where you try to put your own culture above theirs is absolute bullshit.

No. IMO cultural relativism is wicked blue pill. A lot of cultures are just straight-up inferior and only exist because superior cultures make their existence possible, or they're on the verge of dying. They are bad cultures.

I will gladly stand beside feminism that condemns cultures practicing female genital mutilation. I will go a step further and call those cultures inferior to my own.

This is the worst type of feminism because it places intellectually inferior concepts over and above true excellence. The author refers to the woman contributed to this pile-of-shit article as "amazingly talented." No such words like that are used for the team of scientists!

WAT?

[–]Red_SoloCup 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay, I guess I didn't clarify enough. I meant 1st world cultures, not 3rd world mutilation/sacrifice/tons-of-weird-and-nasty-shit cultures. We're definitely superior to those. Totally my bad. However, I do think that most 1st world cultures are relatively equal and we all can learn from studying each of them, and flat-out ignoring someones modern culture is willfully ignorant and helps no one, especially when you're doing it in this context and looking for a reason to get butthurt.

And I also agree with your second point, this type of feminism really just sucks for every reason.

[–]TimPartendale -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

She is an American commenting on a guy from Europe who wears that because their culture doesn't care.

Just like how Europeans comment on things within our culture because OUR culture doesn't care?

I under the rest of your comment but you know why this article was published - clickbait and money. Let's not forget that.

[–]Espiritu13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Definitely understand that it is click bait. This current US generation (of which I'm a part of) feels that it's opinion is important, so it tries to share whether or not it's click bait.

And yes, it is like that, however unlike Europe, this chick thinks what she says matters.

I find her attitude highly discriminatory and blatantly obvious he/she has spent very little time with other cultures. It pisses me off to no end.

[–]100 Modbsutansalt 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Correction: The comet itself is 300 million miles from earth, but the probe actually traveled 3.8 BILLION miles to get there:

http://www.airspacemag.com/space/rosetta-comet-chaser-180950138

[–]Newdist2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's like those new NFL stats/graphics which show the ballcarrier ran 40 yards during a 15-yard gain.

[–]Movonnow 18 points19 points  (5 children)

You could read that comment to a girl and she would respond "I don't understand why you seems so excited about a rock" and then would proceed to explain how brad and katie were in a relationship now and what she had for lunch.

[–]stimulated_narcolept 24 points25 points  (2 children)

On the other hand, you could point to a newly engaged womans diamond ring and go "I don't understand why you seems so excited about a rock" and she would flip her shit.

I mentioned how a diamond ring is "just a dumb rock" in a sociology class and half of the girls in the class were collectivelly shouting at me at the same time without even letting me finish my thought. I just laughed and cried a bit inside.

[–]trpiece 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You're gonna die a little inside.

http://blog.priceonomics.com/post/45768546804/diamonds-are-bullshit

There are better articles, but in essence diamonds are a piece of shit unless you're using it to drill or cut shit up or just using it's hardness and transparency properties.

[–]stimulated_narcolept 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I know, you're preaching to the choir.

[–]the10thrider 2 points3 points  (1 child)

"Bitch, we live on a rock. You best believe we want to learn everything about it."

If people like this had more influence we'd still be in straw huts living nomadic lives.

"Why should we care about farming? They're just plants."

"Why should we care about learning about atoms? They're just stuff."

"Why should we care about oil? It's just black stuff."

"Why should we explore space? What about Earth problems? It's just space stuff."

"Why would you need to make a automatic carriage? Aren't horses fine?"

The great success of our American education system.

[–]Movonnow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't get fooled, I'm European and this is the way things are in Europe too.

I found out a few years ago that some women were interested in that kind of thing. In fact, those women were the ones who were married to beta-nerd scientists so they would pretend to be interested in what their jobs are about.

[–]Redpillc0re 8 points9 points  (3 children)

importantly the comet is about 3-5 km wide. A single bounce on the surface yesterday took the lander 1km away. Whats the american expression for hitting an impossible target? (sorry not my language)

[–]HedRotPiliCeppers 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Shooting the wings off a fly. Or bullseyeing a womp rat in a t-16 skyhopper.

[–]BluepillProfessor -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

We say dat sho aint shootin fish in a barrel.

[–]BluepillProfessor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

LMFAO on the down votes. Think Hillbilly accent not wut u wuz thinkin.

[–]MayorMoonbeam 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I'm gonna stop you right there. Rosetta has travelled over 6.4 billion kilometres so far. Not 300 million miles. And the lander arrived within 50 metres of the target, well within the 500 m goal. Now, unfortunately it may have been wedged into a crevice, or something, but that's just bad luck.

[–]stimulated_narcolept 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It's because the thing the size of a washing machine weighs a fucking gram on that commet. It's so insanely hard to land that thing precisely.

[–]itsmehobnob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grams are a measure of mass. The lander's mass is exactly the same on the comet as on Earth, or floating through space. (Minus the spent fuel of course)

[–]aazav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the shirt oppresses my ovaries!

[–]TakeYourSoma1 84 points85 points  (2 children)

This guy and his female coworkers put shit on a comet and these writers have the nerve to say that a damn shirt is "three steps back for humankind." If they wanted to pen a feminist piece they could have talked about the accomplishment of the team, particularly the women. Imagine that: several decades ago those women wouldn't have had a hand in this at all, but there they are helping make history.

And Ms. Proud Independent Womyn just fixates on a damn shirt.

Gentlemen, we've reached peak degeneracy.

[–]Dick-Tracy 30 points31 points  (0 children)

We are not even close to peak degeneracy yet. If anything, it's beginning to feel to me like there may be no peak, no limit.

[–]Endorsed ContributorSarcasticus 104 points105 points  (23 children)

This is the sort of casual misogyny that stops women from entering scientific fields.

First of all, wearing a shirt is not misogyny. Misogyny is hatred of all women, and that takes a lot more time and effort than wearing a shirt. One can't be "casually misogynistic" anymore than one can be a casual member of the KKK.

Furthermore, if a woman is scared off of going into science because someone is wearing a shirt with a scantily clad lady on it, then I think that they weren't that interested in science to begin with.

[–]16 Endorsed ContributorCyralea 69 points70 points  (16 children)

Honestly, I sometimes wonder who promotes the idea that women are adult-sized children more, us or feminists. Men wearing suggestive shirts is enough to keep women out of lucrative fields they enjoy? How mentally fragile are they?

[–]aazav 1 point2 points  (15 children)

They set the example by being the example.

Like that fat troll who comments (pushes her feminist agenda) on every popular youtube thread and then her assroots fangirls vote it to the top.

[–]snobocracy 13 points14 points  (7 children)

Wait... nobody's taking Bertha Lovejoy seriously are they?

[–]ForgotMyNameGG 6 points7 points  (2 children)

No, people are actually taking that account seriously. I've seen MRA / "4chan-esque" pages on facebook parading that account as an example of feminist stupidity.

It's pretty stupid when I see people use those 4chan arrows (meme arrows?) when Bertha is 100% a 4chan troll.

[–]snobocracy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No way...
Nobody's bullshit meter could be that broken.

Though now that I think about it... Pretending to believe and be offended by Lovejoy, could be trolling itself... I just have too hard a time believing that people could honestly read Bertha and not see the comedy. It's too brazen and over the top.

[–]stimulated_narcolept 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Can we please stop talking about assholes? Even all this negative attention you give them is still attention and makes them even more famous. Just stop it. Ignore it and move on.

[–]snobocracy 8 points9 points  (2 children)

But Bertha Lovejoy is not an asshole.
She's a charicature, like Ali G or Borat. She's an over-the-top representation of the kind of fat feminist that complains about men and blames patriarchy on all her problems.

Am I missing something? Can people not see satire?
Bertha Lovejoy (i.e. the charicature that pokes fun at feminists) is on our side.

[–]TimPartendale 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Bertha Lovejoy (i.e. the charicature that pokes fun at feminists) is on our side.

Exactly, I just with "Bertha" was more overt about the satire.. some of the lastest stuff I read by "her" seemed serious and I would've taken it as such had I not previously known that it was a troll account.

[–]whiptheria 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Part of satire's job is to trick people into exposing their foolishness. People get embarrassed when they take extreme positions to support or defend the satire or satirist. This is important because it actually defuses potentially violent situations.

[–]Cacciaguida 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Bertha Lovejoy?

Fuuuuuuuuuuuck google plus. Seriously. Youtube comments were bad before, but at least I didn't always see the same douches and trolls on every video, because they would be pushed out of the spotlight eventually, and if they didn't I could downvote them or mark them.

Instead the system caters to them and they get pushed to the top every fucking time.

[–]1Jaereth 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I'm pretty sure all those comments are troll. There are versions of that for /r/atheism as well that are hilarious. It's like a new meme going around. They find a popular link to youtube on reddit and use some strawman account to make a ridiculous comment.

[–]EdgarAllanNope_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Shh. If they're too stupid to know, let them be.

[–]jobs33ker 0 points1 point  (2 children)

How does google plus effect the comment rating/ranking system? I did notice that the youtube comment system had changed sometime in the last year or so but have no idea why or for what purpose.

[–]7ravicus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I imagine it would be like seeing your friends youtube comments on your facebook newsfeed, so you'd be alerted every time someone posts a comment, which makes it more likely your followers will see and upvote your content. the more friends or followers or whatever system g+ uses the more upvotes you'd get. As for why or for what purpose, google ad revenue

[–]Cacciaguida 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No downvoting, comments get pushed up based on replies which trolls get plenty of.

trolls use sock puppets and friends to upvote them, which angers more people. simply put, threading simply doesn't work there. No spam button either, which was useful for getting rid of active trolls that respond a lot.

I miss the wit of the top comment.

[–]ButterMyBiscuit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lol, that's a troll account dude. I always upvote those posts because they piss people off and I think it's hilarious.

[–]HonestyVersusPC 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Looks more like another casual redefinition of the word 'misogyny'.

These are the women who forged on despite the fact that they were told by elementary school classmates and the media at large that girls who like science are nerdy and unattractive

This is another example of a particular syndrome I've noticed a lot: feminists claiming to be faced with an attitude that is supposedly constantly in the media, when in fact, the only time it is in the media is when it is claimed that it is always in the media.

The only time I've seen women discouraged or shamed in the way described is in the imaginations of feminist commentators. I've never actually seen the media, or anyone else, actually demonstrate the behaviour being complained about.

In fact, whenever I've heard women and science mentioned together in the media, it's always to praise them, highlight their success, encourage them, or to complain that they're never praised or encouraged.

Edit: Interesting to note that he was being judged on what was wearing as opposed to his achievements.

[–]1kick6 8 points9 points  (1 child)

The funny thing is if what your quote is saying is true, women are actually equal. As a Computer Science degree holder, and a man, I can assure you that I've been told countless times that I'm nerdy and unattractive because of it.

More proof that women have equality already, and have no interest in it. They want state-enforced superiority.

[–]netgrey 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Can confirm, no one encouraged me to go into STEM. Try telling 99% of women you are a scientist and you can feel the vag drying up.

Try going through high school bullied, being called dork, nerd, geek.

Shit then try dealing with your pedantic classmates who actually prove the stereotype. Or worse the neck beards that literally don't shower.

I did it for the love of it. If anything people pushed me to be a doctor or lawyer not STEM.

[–]Movonnow 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's just an excuse to not put up with the hard work science requires.

Then they can go on playing the victim card and finding a beta buck to make efforts for them.

Why live a hard life?

[–]Redpillc0re 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are trying to argue with reason. That ain't gonna work with that crowd, just ask them to make u a sandwich.

[–]EdgarAllanNope_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

One can't be "casually misogynistic" anymore than one can be a casual member of the KKK.

False equivalency. One can be casually sexist just as one can be casually racist. With that being said, sexism isn't as bad.

Furthermore, if a woman is scared off of going into science because someone is wearing a shirt with a scantily clad lady on it, then I think that they weren't that interested in science to begin with.

True. No questions asked here.

[–]Doomsday_ 48 points49 points  (1 child)

Feminist logic:

Don't shame women for how they dress.

Shame men for how they dress.

[–]EdgarAllanNope_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your comment isn't fallacious and it shows just how stupid this movement is.

[–]Lyrad1002 47 points48 points  (1 child)

Most of the people who go onto land rockets on comets or write code or design CPUs spent most of their lives getting stuffed into lockers or beat up behind the parking lot. Compared to that, a stupid t-shirt is nothing.

Christ.

[–]miss_sogony 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But if you can't turn the most talked about event on social media and channel some of that attention into your own website (VERGE) then you'll not make sick ad revenue.

[–]ECoast_Man 21 points22 points  (6 children)

Are you surprised by this in the least?

Approximately 200,000 people have died in the Syrian Civil War, and most women are more concerned about this

[–]pissoutofmyass 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Christ, I didn't know it was that many. You rarely (and this is the first time I've seen it for Syria) ever see the aggregate number.

[–]16 Endorsed ContributorCyralea 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Few people, especially Americans, can accurately estimate the body count from the combined Iraq missions. Few people realize that it's potentially as high as 650,000 deaths.

Chris Brown's latest hit? Shit, most girls can sing that by heart.

[–]ECoast_Man 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly the point I am getting at. And Chris Brown is a particularly poignant example (misogynist! But wait, Riri likes him still! And he's hawwt!).

[–]OblongShlong -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Yes. Women are the only ones who generate click-bait traffic. Being uninformed on world issues while up to date on current pop culture is also a trend only found in women.

[–]pissoutofmyass 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No need for the PC "muh oppressed women are always picked on" feminine mode of argument. Argue like a man, if you've got it between your legs.

[–]EdgarAllanNope_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

can accurately estimate

Having general knowledge about an estimate isn't estimating. It's called being knowledgeable. They're spending days researching to get an estimate of how many were killed, which is what estimating would be. They're to know what the estimates are but they don't. That's what you're trying to say. Americans are ignorant.

[–]WaynesCotting 17 points18 points  (3 children)

What has The Verge become? When it started it was just about creating a fresher format and content than the stagnant Engadget, and was focused on tech news and tech journalism.

[–]Aug_12 9 points10 points  (0 children)

TheVerge started out as a team of writers who were disgrunted with the quality of their old sites. It eventually devolved as it hired new writers, which became increasingly evident with the decrease in impartial, unbiased content. The problem kept getting worse and now it's just a shithole that appeals to the masses. I didn't think they'd go so far as to cover non-tech related content, but apparently they have.

[–]PedroIsWatching 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Once Topolsky left the clickbait and the SJW content went through the roof. Just look at how they've covered #GamerGate.

[–]Redpillc0re 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The cheapness of internet advertising is partly to blame for this. Unfortunately, it's impossible to have only quality content AND make enough money from ads, that's why we need alternative formats ( i don't know which ones though).

[–]snobocracy 27 points28 points  (5 children)

You wanna know what would really advance humanity? Women jumping on this guys cock.

If only women threw themselves at guys like this who push the limits of humanity; as opposed to douchebags with orange tans and popped collars at a club; men would have more of an incentive to take the right path.

I know TRP is about accepting reality as it is, and not wishing it were different... but it's just kind of unfortunate that the attributes that women look for and ignore, result in such an unfortunate set of incentives...

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Fashionable haircut, pretty attractive, tattoos, his neck gives away that he lifts, has a bad-ass beard,smart and just got a whole lot more status.

Yea I think this guy is doing fine with women.

[–]HalfAsianBob 9 points10 points  (2 children)

You're a wizard, Harry. I said pretty much the same shit.

I'm amazed this guy even has the motivation to do this kind of stuff in this day and age.

I lost motivation when I was 15. How can guys like this be so smart but so stupid as to not see what's going on with hypergamy and sluts?

[–]stimulated_narcolept 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Some of these guys absolutely see whats going on, and don't give a single shit because science is awesome. For them, the only winning move is not to play.

[–]Tachyon9 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Some things are more important. If you don't have something in your life that is more important than railing random girls, then you are doing it wrong.

[–]the10thrider 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bbbbbbut men like him created the atomic bomb! Men like him only make weapons for war! They don't know what it's like to reallllllly create something... like a mother and her child! That's who should be getting awards! All those single mothers should be getting more money and praise than these evil scientists. Such brave souls.

[–]Pornography_saves_li 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Welcome to the world of 'Social Justice'.

[–]wibblezibble 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I imagine it must be mentally draining to spend every waking hour of your life searching for things to be offended by.

[–]Pornography_saves_li 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That would assume SJW types have mental faculties to drain...

[–]BluepillProfessor 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is exactly what I meant on the Ban Happy Mod thread when I said I am tired of gratuitous anti-women drive by threads that are pointless, repetitious, and damage this subs reputation even more (Ha!).

This Comet threat HAS a point, is completely fresh and new, and a great contribution IMHO. Thanks!

They just nailed one of the greatest engineering achievements so far this century and the story is one of the scientists is wearing a t-shirt with chicks in bikinis. That one just doesn't seem like rocket science to me.

Reminds me of how NASA's pony tailed hippy became THE story comparable to landing a fucking mobile scientific laboratory on another planet.

[–]WardlyHasted 10 points11 points  (0 children)

So wearing a shirt with scantily clad women in the design is "misogynistic" and "oppression", but if a woman herself is scantily clad with her tits hanging out and a mini skirt it's "empowering" and she's "celebrating her body" -- but don't look at her you sexist pig creep.

So, fake tits on a fake woman on a shirt is misogyny. Actual tits hanging out of a shirt on an actual woman is seen as progress for women. Got it.

[–]HAMMURABl 16 points17 points  (0 children)

fuck, i`ll buy these shirts for public events too. just for the lulz

[–]Redpillc0re 16 points17 points  (0 children)

"I don't care if you landed a spacecraft on a comet"

The title is enough, she doesnt care. I m not gonna read the bitching of a bitch, not even your summary of it.

Priorities, women don't know what they are. that's why then never achieved anything.

[–]Baylien2 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is why we will never leave this planet and reach the stars. The moment NASA forms a plan for humankind to colonize space, some bitch in congress will kill the funding for the program because the phallic shape of space shuttles are too "heteronormative"

[–]19 Endorsed Contributordrrrrrr 5 points6 points  (1 child)

This is the beauty of the tech world. CEOs and interns can dress the same fucking way if they have the ability to back it up with their work. T-shirts, suits, hawaiian shirts, etc, no one gives a fuck (or gave a fuck I should say). You could pitch investors, demo a product, work late nights, etc in whatever the hell you wanted as long as you delivered. Where I work, we have to tell interviewees to please NOT dress up for the interview - and we mean it.

When you have a group of high-achieving nerds together and they are allowed to just focus on working with reality to accomplish something in a world of unadulterated logic... they can go far. Women need a constant stream of drama to feel the spikes of excitement / attention that they crave. When things are going smoothly, they create a problem of a bullshit nature just to have something to bitch about. They can't stand the spotlight being on men accomplishing stuff in a real they have no understanding of. Of course, not all women are in this category (and those women do fine in STEM fields. No NASA engineer chicks are tweeting about this. None of the women involved with this project had any issue.

A small % of chicks are capable of making it in STEM and retaining passion for STEM. To those chicks, they tend to do well - the girls who are genuinely interested in stem, the ones who made their first text-based RPG in middle school and programmed it with whatever archaic language existed back then... they actually do just fine. I'd say about 2-3% of women are in this category. And you'll never hear them bitching about sexism in STEM; if they have experienced an incident of sexism, they refer to it as an isolated incident, not part of a larger epidemic.

This myth of "passionate STEM women being driven away from STEM due to sexism" is complete bullshit. Women make a judgment-call with full control of their choices - they decide that it's just not worth it to work very hard and face 4 years of hell in college to study something they don't naturally feel a calling towards. Women naturally just recognize that the world of STEM just isn't for them, it's just not a match for what they want.

On the day that the STEM world becomes a match for what women want, and women are equally represented to men in STEM... that world will be dead.

[–]Lipophobicity 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"This is the sort of casual misogyny that stops women from entering certain scientific fields. "

If you are a tshirt you don't like away from entering a demanding field, it may not have been the career for you anyway.

[–]ArchetypalSage 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I used to read The Verge from time to time but between nonsense like this and pro yes-means-yes content, I have and will continue to avoid them.

By the way, holy shit what an achievement. Just watch the video with the 10 year flight plan for the comet landing...absolutely insane!

edit: grammar

[–]PedroIsWatching 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This SJW shit is why I stopped reading The Verge.

[–]toysjoe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don't tell him what to wear. Tell women not to judge.

[–]MagnanimousGenius 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This reminds me of the "ban bossy" meme that feminists created. If you can't handle upsetting language, you aren't fit to be a leader. Further, if a woman can't handle hearing the word "bitch" at a bar without having to run home and switch from physics to the gender studies program, who has the real mental illness here?

Exactly. So many of them moan and bitch about overhearing men calling someone a 'bitch' or some sort of banter about casual sex, how hot someone is etc. but its always the exact same spun around:You'll hear girls calling certain men 'dickheads' etc. or talking about a guys body, how hot he is. The difference is (most) men don't lose their shit over petty nonsense, and couldn't care less

Edit: Furthermore, another example of leftist PC bigots complaining about the lack of women in scientific fields, without themselves making any inroads to pursuing a scientific career. Imposing your opinion on everyone will change things how to be how you want them to be is all you need to do right?

[–]aazav 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Must. Push. Her. Own. Oversensitive. Agenda. Because. Oppression.

That shirt was raping every woman who ever existed. I saw it happen. Literally.

I can't even.

[–]le_king_falcon 23 points24 points  (14 children)

Its a standard attention switch.

The focus is totally on all the awesome guys who pulled this feat off. Some sad bitch doesn't like that she's being ignored. Dumbass dude wears dumbass shirt. Sad bitch can get attention by being offended. Its a shit test.

Fact is the shirt was a fucking terrible decision to wear on the most important day of your career to date. It would be inappropriate in basically any workplace that's not a comic book store.

You'd think the ESA would have given some media training to these guys though.

[–]cryptedsky 27 points28 points  (3 children)

This guy's career is already made. This IS the pinnacle of his career, there are no more impressions to give. As one guy on reddit said the other day, he participated in possibly the greatest trick shot in the history of humankind. He could do the interview naked or dressed in sexy female BDSM gear, nobody cares. We just want to know how they did it, how he felt when it landed successfully, what we will learn, what principles were applied, etc.

Besides, an argument could be made that this shirt is some sort of work of art and muh first amendment.

[–]le_king_falcon 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Indeed. He is in a legitimate position to deploy the IDGAF attitude.

Funny thing is by wearing that shirt or per your example the bdsm gear he is allowing the conversation to be driven away from his achievements.

If he expects no scrutiny or the mainstream media to be focused solely on the mission he expects too much. He should have known enough about the possible reaction because of the reaction to the guy with the Mohawk who was in mission control for the curiosity landing. Mohawk guy didn't even offend the feminists and he got lots of wasted words written about him instead of curiosity.

That's more my point than my personal opinion of the shirt. He by playing sideshow has actually messed up the press coverage of this momentous moment for science.

[–]cryptedsky 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah. Now, I get what you're saying. Still, the superficialness of public mainstream conversation makes me a little more misanthropic every day and I don't know how to stop it.

[–]cascadecombo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If he expects no scrutiny or the mainstream media

mainstream media is full of nitwits, just look at who dominates it. You worry too much about PC shit to realize the people who actually do take value from what he has to say literally give no shits about what clothes he is wearing.

[–]JayGatsbyFan[S] 36 points37 points  (2 children)

He claims it was a statement about the scientific community not caring about what you look like. It's all about your brain. That's why he was also interviewed about his tattoos. You don't expect a man wearing a shirt like that while being covered in tattoos to be intelligent to the level of a rocket scientist. If you see him in the street, you probably assume he's a convict or a hooligan. When you think "rocket scientist" you picture some nerd in a button down shirt with a skinny tie, some awful glasses, and a pencil neck. It's a nice barrier to break for the tattooed folk who also happen to be intelligent.

[–]le_king_falcon 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Well that explains his decision to dress like that.

The thing is his peers will judge him by his smarts and achievements. Ask almost any scientific institution about hiring criteria and as long as you aren't too customer facing you can get away with murder. I'm a stem graduate and I was surrounded by some quirky ass lecturers and professors. Even they knew that at certain times they have to dress "correctly."

This guy just chose to pick the day in his career where he will be judged by the whole world instead of just his intellectual peers to do his thing. If he thought he'd get no blowback he's an idiot.

[–]drunkjake 13 points14 points  (0 children)

A ton of the stem types don't know or give a Fuck lol. Those I've interacted with ..... lack social skills lol. He probably was wearing his nice shirt, that a girl made him, to such an awesome event. Or, wore what he first pulled out of the closet that am

[–]1kick6 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's a sad commentary on western culture that they even need "media training."

[–]Charlemagne2014 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was just thinking that. You cant say or do anything without worrying that it might "trigger" some SJW who is looking for a fight, any fight, to fabricate an example of oppression.

[–]Shenkey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you read a bit more, it looks like it was intentional, great troll.

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    [–]le_king_falcon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    So what your saying is in his shoes you'd wear that shirt on the day that you've completed a groundbreaking ten year mission; that's guaranteed to get major press attention from all corners of the world?

    If so you are deranged.

    His conduct on this day decides whether he gets picked for these missions, it decides whether he gets promoted to more senior positions. Yes he may be smart, he may be experienced but there are ten minds as capable as his waiting to take his place. If the ESA were to decide his fashion faux par made his position untenable because of politics or bad press he won't get on another project. Especially in an organisation that is nearly 100% funded by public money.

    I get that people don't think its a big deal and I'd agree that a shirt shouldn't be an issue. However that's not the world we live in, people get bent out of shape over shitty little things. In this case it's also very likely to offend people very close to the funding of the ESA. In 2013 ultrafeminist Sweden contributed €75 million to the ESA, the UK who's current home secretary is a hardcore feminist contributed €300 million. The European Union which consists solely of bureaucrats with too much time on their hands contributed €911 million. Just those three parties count for more than 25% of the total funding of the ESA. If he endangers the money he's gone, simple.

    So yes I'm serious. His little stunt could curtail his career and risk the funding of a multi billion euro organisation. Whether it should or not is merely academic. In the hyper sensitive world we live in his actions could have serious consequences.

    I think its truly deplorable that people would use his attire on this day to divert attention from this momentous achievement to further their personal causes. However to believe that no one would do it is naive to the extreme.

    Edit: Oh look he's even had to apologise on an ESA stream. So someone got their feathers ruffled.

    [–]jobs33ker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I appreciate your well written and long answer to my original snarky bullshit comment. So thanks for clarifying. and I completely agree, to expect that no one would be offended in this day and age is naive. I trying to communicate that. I was just more making a statement about how fucking stupid people are getting offended over shit like this shirt. But again, it's to be expected...

    [–]juicy_truth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Now if only these scientists could find a way to get all that sand out of the author's vagina.

    [–]Redpillonlyaccount 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I've just seen Professor Monica Grady crying tears of joy at the success of this mission. How dare these ridiculous SJWs try to take that away from her. They should be ashamed of themselves.

    [–]SariaLystra 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I could not fucking believe this when I read it. Some guy is doing physics and engineering beyond your measly liberal arts degree and is expanding the frontiers of human exploration and you care about what he's wearing?

    This is literally the fashion police and feminists getting in the way of scientific progress.

    [–]Swagzor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    No homo, but that guy looks amazing and alpha.

    Check his beard, neck muscles, arms, doesn't care what others thing about his clothes AND worked on some tech related amazing things that'll bring mankind a step further.

    Maybe he is a new inspiration. And again, no homo.

    [–]HalfAsianBob 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Women would rather lie down with a drug addicted ex-criminal with an IQ 90 who takes party photos, than to spend 10 minutes talking about an interesting, potentially humanity-changing subject with a man they find to be beta.

    [–]Yozki 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Hey at least it'll make my facebook friends actually read about the landing when people start sharing this shit.

    [–]theguywhoreadsbooks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    This is a great example of the self defeating nature of feminism.

    On one side, feminists claim that women are independent, powerful and do not need the approval of anyone. On the other side, you have this article claiming 'Women don't join STEM fields because of attitudes like this.' This basically claims that women are so fragile that they would reject a field they want to work on because someone wore a shirt 'objectifying' women.

    Honestly, if someone wears a unprofessional T-shirt to any event, the appropriate reaction would be 'That shirt is so out of place, what was he thinking' and not 'I am quitting this field and my major because people wear unprofessional shirts'. By writing articles like this, the site trivializes one of mankind's greatest achievements into 'Look at that guy, he dared wear a offensive shirt, let's crucify him' campaign.

    By the way, aren't you limiting his freedom of clothing when you complain about this? If it is okay for women to wear whatever they want, wherever they want because 'my body, my wish' then this scientist definitely has the same right.

    [–]WarmApfelPi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    If someone makes their career choice based off colleagues' tshirts and swimsuit calendars, I can't say I'd be surprised when they don't end up with a good career.

    [–]LS_D 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    "this is ground control to Major Tom, you're moving through the stars ,, and the paper's want to know who's shirts you wear?

    Coz Fiddy say's his spacewear is the bear!, spacey fabric that feels of this milllenia's breeze, ,,

    coz those shirts that Tom wears from d '7 tees' ,, aint real comfy like these, damn these be heavenlys!

    "This is ground control to Fiddy Bro, you're rocking through the stars, and the Networks want to know what pot you wear?, hemp being the fibre of the ultimate spacewear, yeah?"

    lol'

    sorry I just couldn't resist the redditurgation to go with the flow, which hit me like a shitty ONS when trying to 'soft next' her!

    [–]geenomike 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Look at what he was wearing. He was asking for it.

    /s

    [–]TekkomanKingz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    If this wasn't called out to me in this article I wouldn't have even noticed what the fuck he was wearing.

    I can't stand the female mind.

    [–]Hrodrik 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    This is more about feminists being completely retarded than women.

    [–]joaquim56 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Women are forever the victims.

    There is no struggle, no testing, no adversity.

    Everything needs to handed down as it's on a platter.

    Honestly, woman aren't into science because it's not cool. Women, for the part, are group thinkers.

    Science, by design, requires a critical outlook of the world and defending that.

    It's also very isolating, something women hate.

    Instead of trying to get women into STEM, we should just focus on those who want it.

    [–]goemon45 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Are you fucking kidding me? They made the man break down apologizing.

    [–]fokm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I thought it was much more misogynistic when Neal Armstrong hung the "NO FAT CHICKS" banner next to the American flag on the moon.

    [–]Echelon64 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    What's even funnier is that the shirt he was wearing was designed by a woman.

    The lead researcher I believe is also a woman.

    [–]tallwheel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Well, I think that shirt is pretty awesome and I want one. Need to find a company that can make a close imitation. I see a business opportunity...

    [–]aazav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    She's just pissed that the guy wearing it is clearly alpha and she doesn't even rank on his radar.

    [–]sam1amm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    While this has enough truth to it, I don't think its something worth getting angry over. You should not be letting women's insignificant interests control your emotion. Also, I don't like this example for trp because similar to what I just said, the fact that we are focusing on these tiny annoyances feels to me like we would be acting no better than the bitches discussed in here.

    [–]OhYouPoorSOB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It's no different than guys who talk about professional sports players, "their teams," and fantasy sports teams.

    People care about stupid shit.

    [–]1niczar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I think this post is extremely sexist.

    The shirt was made by a woman.

    The article was written by a man.

    So yeah, this post is very sexist in that it wrongly assumes that all women are worthless SJW cunts and that men are all awesome rocket scientists.

    [–]homesquash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    To be fair - the majority of the world has been talking about Kim K's ass for the last few days.

    [–]haterandhypocrite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This is the kind of casual misogyny that keeps women out of STEM fields.

    No, the fact that you're talking about this shallow bullshit keeps women out of STEM fields.

    They hear comments about "bitches" and decide to change majors

    Then she shouldn't have been there in the first place. If a woman stops pursuing leadership because she is called mean names, she should not be a leader at all.

    [–]HalfPastTuna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Right, casual use of the word bitch only takes place among STEM majors. It shows how out of touch these people are with normal human interaction

    [–]FoxNewsBestNews 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Thank you red pill for existing. This entire issue that this subreddit focuses on very well could have flown under my radar if I didn't just take the chance and listen to what you all had to say.

    [–]FoxNewsBestNews 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I mean, I intuitively knew something stunk, but I wasn't willing to see it.

    [–]1Joelasaur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This guy is part of a team that just landed on a comet with a mission that was 10 years in the making.

    Please change this to 30 years, the project started in 1985.

    [–]seddition 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    If you're smart enough to figure out how to build a robotic space craft, send it 300 million miles over ten years, and have it land on a comet traveling at some insane speed through space, you get to wear whatever the fuck you want in my book. This guy is part of history. Who will remember the peons bitching about his shirt in 50 years? No one.

    [–]garlicextract 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This is the sort of casual misogyny that stops women from entering scientific fields. They hear comments about "bitches" while out at a bar with fellow science students, and they decide to change majors.

    If that's the kind of thing that persuades them to change majors, they weren't cut out for the field in the first place.

    [–]tenthirtyone1031 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Nm read the article.

    You could say by the way this guy was dressed he was "asking for it" right? Amiright? See what I did there. Guys?... Guys?

    [–]skoobled 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Girl I know (not some kind of self declared feminist) made a wtf post about this today

    [–]6footdeeponice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    If I wear a t-shirt with a band on it, I really like the band.

    Obviously this man is not misogynistic because if he's wearing a shirt with a women on it, he likes women.

    [–]NotReallyEthicalLOL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Attractive man featured? Oppression via male power fantasy Attractive female featured? Oppression via objectification

    [–]BuckStricklandx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    [–]Charlemagne2014 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    "This is the sort of casual misogyny that stops women from entering scientific fields."

    It's true. I knew a girl who was going to become an aerospace engineer, get her phd and everything. But someone had on a bowling shirt and instead she majored in english with a minor in women's studies. If it werent for that darn casual misogyny.

    [–]watersign 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    lol, fucking communists always trying to cut people down. feminists, go fuck yourself!!!

    [–]symko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    don't they every night? /s

    [–]2 Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    I prefer this look for space industry workers, but at the end of the day, I just want them to be successful. If dressing casually helps google engineers, I'm sure it works for these ESA guys. Live and let live.

    [–]1Jaereth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Guy in the back row, far left: "You don't fuckin control me"

    [–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Feminists got no problems with this shit though:

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XpxsyR_0HHI/TzRuIoqjs8I/AAAAAAAAAZc/8e-GoHbn2Mc/s1600/lt00002.gif

    http://worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2004/01/30/naSTUPIDBOYSPROTEST_t640.jpg?a6ea3ebd4438a44b86d2e9c39ecf7613005fe067

    Or the bullshit misandrist book it spawned:

    http://www.amazon.com/Boys-Stupid-Throw-Rocks-Them/dp/0761135936/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

    Even worse, this shit demonizes little boys by targetting little girls perception of them. Feminism is a hateful ideology. If it cared about gender equality it would be right on tacking this kind of hateful shit instead of FINDING THINGS to be offended by. Why do they have to go over the top finding things to be offended about? Because the ideology is fucking irrelevant now. There is no institutionalism misogyny and there is no rape culture. It's 2014, not 1914, the ideology just makes shit up to remain relevant now and the low IQ imbeciles and poor fuckers indoctrinated in colleges eat it all up.

    I'm just gonna leave all this shit here... fuck feminists, fuck blue pillers and the SJWs who support it. They support bigotry, and for all their talk of oppression, it is ironic that all they need to do to find the people who perpetuate hatred and intolerance is look in the mirror.

    http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51pVGiq-rHL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

    http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/D_&_G_Boys_Are_Stupid_bc_09.jpg

    [–]EdgarAllanNope_ -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

    Further, if a woman can't handle hearing the word "bitch" at a bar without having to run home and switch from physics to the gender studies program, who has the real mental illness here?

    This. I've heard people in my major say the n word (which is objectively way worse). Does that mean I'm going to go home, cry, and then change my major to African American Studies? No. That's some weak shit.

    Further, if a woman can't handle hearing the word "bitch" at a bar without having to run home and switch from physics to the gender studies program, who has the real mental illness here?

    Uhh... Uh oh. Yeah, that's pretty hypocritical. "Sexism isn't a problem. Here's why I'm sexist."

    Bottom line, she shirt is unprofessional and he should not have worn it. He poorly represented the ESA and all of Europe. NASA goes about all its business with everyone dressed how they should be.