First Post here
I'm back with an update.
So I had my buddy John on the phone again yesterday and asked him how everything's going.
Apparently Sally tried to call him and text him wanting to talk about it, giving her a 'chance to make sense of everything'. He held frame and did not respond or simply said he didn't want to see her.
5 minutes later he gets a call from her dad (oh my god). Dad tells John that she's really emotional and that he needs to deal with it. John goes...: "Whatever". And hangs up.
He then calls Sally to ask what the hell that was about (lost frame due to Dad but whatever). She then starts saying how she's going to make a change and be the perfect girlfriend for him. He's not buying it but he's still on the phone with her. Sally asks John to come over to her parents house and John refuses. Sally then states she is coming to John's house. John says: 'I don't want you but I can't stop you'.
Which of course means 'yes' in victim-girls language.
So she shows up and he decides to talk to her so she can finish up her grievance and accept the situation. He explains to her that it's definitely through and that he doesn't want to be with her. He asks her what she wants from the house and that he's willing to help her get situated. She told him she doesn't want his help and that her love can't be bought (lol, yes it can you golddigger) She also claims that she was the one that broke up because she got her stuff out of the house before he pulled the plug (nice gymnastics there).
She went through all the emotions and all the tactics we all know women have in their arsenal (his quote not mine, god I love the bastard)
So she starts crying: "I love you i'll do anything'.
Angry: 'You're hurting me how can you do this'
Disbelief: 'Why are you so cold I don't know you anymore'
Aggression: She hit him multiple times in anger (holy shit). Not the face I think. He never touched her of course. Held frame like a boss.
He's done with the talk and drives her to her parents house (her parents dropped her off at his place). In the car they discuss more and more and when they get to her parents' house the shit hits the fan.
In a last ditch effort to .... do something I don't know... She grabs his sunglasses from the dashboard and says 'This is mine'. It was a gift from her 3 years ago.
She grabs a small drink karton thing and throws it in his face (near miss)
She slams the door shut while he's blasting out of there, just wanting to get away. She then kicks his car door full-on while he's making a get away.
5 minutes later he gets a text: 'Sorry about your car door'.
So we got to talking... And in just a couple of days he's internalized a lot of good things. He sees through all the shit that she's doing and recognized that they were all efforts to get him back. Letting Dad call him so he feels obligated to contact her... flipping through emotions to get to see what sticks... etc.
Everytime he sees this, he gets more convinced that he's through with it so I'm pretty sure there's not gonna be a backslide.
I tried to spin it in a positive way... and started talking about the lessons he can take from this. That the next girl that shows these signals... (even though AWALT) that he will be able to see them early on and put a lid on it. I told him that even though you're not really at fault... The only way to prevent this is by bettering yourself. He wants to believe that there are girls not like that and should he find one he will be happy. I explained that all girls do shit-tests and all girls manipulate. It's up to him to be ready for that and this lesson will teach him that. Hopefully I can get the oneitis out of him because that will mean he's gonna lose frame in the future and he's back to scratch.
One of the most interesting things he said was so fucking beautiful I just have to tell you guys. Apparently he had these feelings for a while now and little over 2 months ago he simply said to himself: 'Fuck it imma do it my way now' He started holding frame, not bending to her will, telling her that shit needs to change in a calm manner etc... True TRP stuff. He told me he found it remarkable how she responded. Instead of flipping out like he expected her to... he said she responded really good. She told him things like: 'I really like it when you take charge' 'I love the confident new you' 'It's really sexy'
I was so damn happy, man. This guy stumbled upon RP truths by himself... had a clear view on the situation and his actions and the effects on her attitude. I couldn't have done it better myself. It's a shame he had to almost go nuclear to see this change but he did. That being said... it wasn't enough for him (the positive response) so he broke it off still.
She's been promising him the perfect girlfriend and everything and you know what's the first thing he thinks about? 'Yeah, that's nice and all but she would be doing it to keep me. What if we get kids or get married? She would have no incentive to stay that way. I'm not buying it.'
God I'm proud.
Bout the financial stuff. She doesn't want anything but still tried to get the parking space. He told her no. She said: 'but you only have one car'. He said: 'So?'. I told him... This is a good thing and if she doesn't want anything, that's awesome....but you know how quick she can flip so be ready for a phone call that's gonna be otherwise.
Ended the call with: 'I think you're gonna be fine, dude'.
Gonna have some beers with him tomorrow and try and discuss game with him. He admitted that he's gonna be rusty when it comes to dating. That he's not a PUA kinda guy and wants a LTR. I hope I can convince him of the steps to improve his SMV. His confidence has risen compared when he was single so that'll help. I still think he's gonna go for 5s and 6s (what he's used to) while with some work he can definitely get 8s. Need to convince him that he should use the 5s and 6s for practice purposes and not get oneitis too quick... He can do better. He's tall (pretty decent looking) and has a good job. Gymtime and some good game-mentality should improve his SMV remarkably.
tl;dr Sally went crazy. BP John showed RP-ness and held frame like a boss. her true colours makes him even more sure of his decision.
edit: Thanks for the replies guys. I'll keep you posted in his progress. If you liked this one... stay tuned for the 'My super beta brother' blue pill example. It's almost as bad as this one.