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[–]2 MRedPillWatchTower 188 points189 points  (37 children)

It is banal, because concepts like loyalty and dedication are alien to women.

http://therationalmale.com/2011/10/03/war-brides/

Women will just as soon fuck an invading force after that force murders their husbands, if it means protecting her best interests and the interests of her children.

It's often joked that women can't even be friends with other women because they know how women are. There is truth to that. I've seen women say the most vile, disgusting, hurtful things about other women behind their back, but later that night, they're at the bar together doing jello shots like they're best friends.

Just like women don't love the same way men love, women don't form friendships the same way men form friendships. This is the crux behind the notion that "women and men cannot be "just freinds"". The word "friend" means entirely different things to men and women.

[–]colombianguy 49 points50 points  (6 children)

It's often joked that women can't even be friends with other women because they know how women are. There is truth to that.

Women know women, so it's very telling that they can never truly be friends with each other. There is no oath, bond, or covenant, however solemn, that they can be fully trusted not to break...sometimes not even blood ties are sacred. And women understand this, so there will always be an underlying, mutual distrust between them all.

[–]foldpak111 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Once newbie understands this then women aren't so intimidating anymore. They live miserable existences and I'm damn proud to be a man. What's life without friendship?

I remember last year I was seeing some chick and decided to move on to her 'best friend'. She was against it but all I had to do was charm her for like five mins and she said " ugh I don't even care anymore, you're awesome." I was shocked at the time but now I just pity women. I really do.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I do not pity them, they are what they are.

[–]longerdistance 7 points8 points  (2 children)

You misunderstand "distrust". It's not so much distrust as it is a mutual understanding that the relationship is pragmatic and will end once it's no longer mutually beneficial. This works for women, what's sad is that it's also become the default for male friendships, male comradery is a rare thing indeed these days.

[–]faded_jester 73 points74 points  (8 children)

Men say vile, disgusting, rude things to each other all the time and don't mean it. Women say nice, sweet, complimentary things to each other and don't mean it.

[–]let_terror_reign 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Two guys meet 'hey cocksucker!' 'What's up motherfucker?' They think 'what a gem of a guy. Bros forever' Two women meet 'mwaaah! Mwaah! Luvya babe. You look so hawt! <3'.
Mind: that bitch. What a whore.

[–]throvvvvavvvvay 6 points7 points  (2 children)

This happened to me... I was with a female friend while she was saying goodbye to her female friend (who was moving away or something). Took them like ten minutes to hug and hold hands and cry a little and say how much they love each other and will miss each other, etc...

As the girl gets in her car to drive away my friend turns to me and deadpan serious says, "I fucking hate that bitch."

[–]BlackHeart89 0 points1 point  (1 child)

See? Thats some scary shit. Women are excellent actors. They really do go the extra mile to make you believe the shit they're selling.

[–]throvvvvavvvvay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IDK I saw it as some pretty funny shit. Even the girl that said it laughs whenever I tell that story.

In this case they both speak the female language so I'm sure they both knew it was superficial talk. And as a guy, the more you see it the easier it is to spot the fake stuff.

[–]USNavySeal 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Incredible post.

I've seen women say the most vile, disgusting, hurtful things about other women behind their back, but later that night, they're at the bar together doing jello shots like they're best friends.

I just want to add that a lot of guys are turning into this as well. It's disgusting.

But it's reversible. I often call the kind out, and shame them into behaving better. I know for a fact that they are poor with confrontation so they'll never stand their ground or hit back for making them look bad.

[–]makethemsayayy 24 points25 points  (2 children)

Men! We know how to be friends!

[–]MisterTrucker 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I know women that will sell you our for a slice of gossip! Doesn't matter if it's true. Just to hear it is enough to hate you.

[–]TheHatedGuy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's it! Just like in a post before!

[–]Squeezymypenisy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did anyone notice how retarded this guy he is? He goes on to say that he could haven taken her boyfriend, but he would have done it with his "friend who knows mma, in good shape....yada yada yada." He needed another guy just to go to toe to toe with someone. Weak as shit.

[–]gideonrakthor 211 points212 points  (12 children)

He's right, she might is in an abusive relationship.

The boyfriend probably slapped her ass and pulled her hair that very night while ramming her sore.

[–]sir_wankalot_here 35 points36 points  (11 children)

Is it abuse if she likes it ?

[–]rebuildingMyself 166 points167 points  (2 children)

It will be retroactive abuse later on when she's mad at him

[–]1too_long_didnt_read 7 points8 points  (0 children)

She came so hard as her body's defence mechanism to the abuse. She totes didn't love it. Honest.

[–]aazav 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Probably. But if she likes the danger, excitement and abuse, then it's abuse and she likes it.

[–]DarkSayed 39 points40 points  (0 children)

it's just that I have a military background and concepts like loyalty and friendship is suppose to mean something.

Women don't really have these concepts. They understand them intellectually, but don't have an innate sense of value for them.

It's not their fault, they just think differently to men.

Also applies to related notions like honour and sense of duty.

[–]BeautyQuark 72 points73 points  (9 children)

There was no disloyalty by the woman. Sexually exclusive relationships exceed friendships in social hierarchy. Time does not matter, sex does not matter, history does not matter. If the guy was a plate or AF then yeah she was a cunt. The woman showed red pill awareness if they were in a relationship. Just because he orbited for 10 years does not mean he was owed one damn thing if she was in a relationship. Don't put your hands on a taken woman and think all guys will be cool with it. Now her boyfriend may have been alpha of beta, but from the info the woman did the right thing.

TL:DR The boyfriend respected the Beta as a man and told him to fuck off and quit touching his woman=Respect for Beta and Woman. The woman respected her man by not intervening. The Beta bitched and cried like a woman=No respect for anyone including himself.

[–]studbro69 18 points19 points  (1 child)

There we go. Anybody siding with the beta here is thinking too much of their old self and not of when you're trying to fuck a girl and you have to deal with the orbiter cockblock.

[–]foldpak111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's hard not to rock these guys but that would be losing frame.

[–]deville05 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Well I would expect her to atleast tell her boyfriend - "you didnt need to do that. He is my friend". From the douchebag's point.. I think its really insecure to make those needless threats. And from the beta's point.. I think even when he is writing his post, he is concerned about her safety which imo is a valid concern even if oneitish. In the end if she stays with him n suffers his violence, then she in a way brought it on herself

[–]FerrusMan 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Well I would expect her to at least tell her boyfriend - "you didnt need to do that. He is my friend".

Maybe. But you can't go by what a woman says, you have to go by her actions. And she clearly is favoring the new boyfriend. This is what the OP failed to do from the getgo, undoubtedly because he is still very blue pill.

If she is in an abusive relationship, instead of complaining about it on the internet, he needs to sit her down and talk to her once about it, and then move on if she chooses to stay.

Most likely, she's getting her hot alpha sex from the newer bad boy boyfriend, and her beta fix from the 10 year beta orbiter friend.

[–]deville05 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Well he is bluepill no one is debating it. Here she is just a shitty friend which is also not being debated. Also he did try to tell her that the other dude is violent and could be troublesome. She didnt listen to her friend. Which only means that he was friends to her but that was not reciprocated back on the same level in those 10 years. Even if his reaction to all this is bluepill that he cares enough to look out for her by asking reddit for advice, i think its a generous and manly thing to do. And as long as he limits himself to giving her his advice once more, its good. What would be self destructive though is to try and be her lingering savior and emotional punching bag

[–]FerrusMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here she is just a shitty friend which is also not being debated

On this forum, she is probably not being viewed as a friend at all. Her behavior certainly hasn't indicated that. So I'm not surprised there isn't even a debate. 10 year "best friends", and that's how he's treated? Most people here would not be surprised in the least, because it's been seen before, only with serious long term girlfriends or even marriages.

Many women choose violent men to be in relationships with, not the other way around. I've seen it myself, and until I took the red pill I was always puzzled by it. Not anymore.

I understand the pain and anguish of a 10 year friendship going in the toilet, but she is making that choice, and will have to live with the consequences. Once the 10 year friend understands and accepts that, he will have to move on. A woman cannot be in any kind of serious relationship with a man unless she respects him, and as long as the 10 year friend is her emotional tampon while she has her new boyfriend giving her that exciting rough sex, she won't respect him.

[–]throvvvvavvvvay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"He's just a friend...."

Do you not see why she doesn't want to go there? The girl is smart and the men involved need to settle this between them because then it will actually be settled.

[–]gprime312 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Women do not understand honor or loyalty. Don't forget that guys.

[–]LifeAtPeace 15 points16 points  (9 children)

Have you ever heard of women ditching their friends after they get married or once they enter a relationship? Women crave for new things and people in life. If a guy can make her tickle, she will forget everyone in her life (be it friends/ parents/ boyfriend).

[–]theultmatecad 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Many times they dont want their Slutty CC past to catch up to them. Thus they cut ties with people in their life they "outgrew"

[–]bratbarn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a big one, especially in small town America.

[–]ioncloud9 0 points1 point  (6 children)

why is that? we dont go abandoning all of our relationships over everyone that makes us hard.

[–]BridgetheDivide 15 points16 points  (1 child)

It's just the way it is. In antiquity men had to form bonds and work together to ensure the survival of the group. Women had to protect themselves and the children. Of course, there are outliers but by and large a girl will immediately move on from you the moment something new and shiny crosses her gaze. Lol ain't it fucked up? One of the reasons I feel no guilt whatsoever about being emotionally unavailable.

[–]foldpak111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah haha when a girl moves on to something "better" and expects me to chase her, I just laugh and go do some Bioenergetics, lifting or whatever it is I planned on doing at that particular moment.

[–]1pcadrian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sadly I used to do this, and let myself be absorbed in my relationships...

[–]balalasaurus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Solipsism in the context of the female imperative

[–]Deadlifty 31 points32 points  (17 children)

From the way this read and his follow-up comments, it sounds like the guy is a dweeb and probably a bit creepy. He certainly over-values this girls relationship with him. The boyfriend on the other hand sounds like a standard jealous, violent control-freak.

Nobody involved handled anything well here. This is a great example of how not to be.

If the OP had any sense he'd be pretty pissed off by this whole situation, steer well clear, and resolve to some kind of life/ self improvement and upscale the quality of people he's hanging with.

[–]makethemsayayy 8 points9 points  (1 child)

He's kind of a female the way he's handling this. Take control and responsibility, realize AWALT, and control what you CAN control. Let that hoe go, IT AINT NOTHING TO CUT THAT BITCH OFF!

[–]lordrand11 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Or possibly she was using him to maneuver herself into a position with the wannabe alpha. She doesn't give two fucks about that friendship they had, he was only there to make sure she wasn't lonely.

[–]Endorsed ContributorVZPurp 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Good point. This is something women often do.

[–]lordrand11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd love to say I know this from observation but unfortunately it's from experience. No one wants to actively be lonely least of all pre wall women. We all need someone around us to validate our existence (or at least that's what we learn growing up).

[–]1DavidTeGnome 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Post's like this are great examples of why you simply cannot connect redpill/game/evo-psyche/recrudescent-masculinity type content to reddit. It inexorably draws in reddits core user base of insufferable, effete, weirdos and shitlibs.

I'm a big fan of the subjects this subreddit attempts to tackle, but it is a fucking mine field of shit posts. It usually takes me only a few clicks here before I'm fleeing back to heartiste, roosh, rollo and with a new found appreciation for virtually any branch of the manosphere that isn't a voice for men or this subreddit. It's a shame the mods don't vaporize half the users here, because that's a very conservative estimate of how many don't belong.

This post above, this identification with the detestable, scheming, passive aggressive, delusional, decade long orbiter pansy from the archived story is simply obscene. How anyone could read that story (real or not) and equivocate blame is beyond me. Mods, rain down judgement on this forum before the cancer spreads any further.

Mark my words, one day it will be nothing but bronies chasing unicorns.

[–]Lt_Muffintoes 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Tell the guy how he is wrong instead of throwing a bunch of adjectives together.

[–]1DavidTeGnome 7 points8 points  (5 children)

The guy who posted the story is shitty. He is shitty in every sense of the word. Every paragraph he wrote increased my dislike of him and his passive aggressive, male girlfriend, sewing circle snark affectations a hundred fold.

I was horrified to see anyone here sympathize with him in the slightest and it suggests a fetid element within the community. An element I see all to often on this subreddit as it is absolutely littered with similar shit posts from guys who should really go be MRA egalitarians or something.

[–]1pcadrian 93 points94 points  (23 children)

Homie, 10 years of friendship with a woman? That guy is a hardcore orbiter. New bf isn't stupid, knows how the game works.

[–]ioncloud9 37 points38 points  (6 children)

he COULD be banging other chicks on the side.... but we all know he isnt.

[–]1pcadrian 32 points33 points  (4 children)

He is saving himself for her. She will realize how abusive her BF is, and will choose nice guy in the end ;)

[–]cookiecutterbullshit 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Yep, the nice guy gets the girl in the end.

But the end of what, exactly?

[–]PlanB_pedofile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He could be friends with other chicks on the side. Instead he seems to have made this friendship exclusive.

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    [–]1pcadrian 12 points13 points  (11 children)

    It worries me how many of the comments are actually siding with the friend and hate the boyfriend. Oh NO! What a terrible, abusive guy he must be! He's needy! BLABLABLA!

    Sure, mate guarding is not something we endorse, but it's a FAR WORSE sin to be an orbiter. Let's be honest homies, dancing is not an "innocent" activity. The same goes for being touchy feely with your "friends." Hell, I've heard of women cuddling with their male friends, or having sleep overs, and everybody pretends it is 100% fine. Progressive idiots don't realize that the orbiter is getting butterflies from dancing with the gal. In 100% of these cases, the guy is interested in being more than just friends, unless the chick is a moose.

    I sure as fuck wouldn't tolerate my girl dancing with another guy, or having "close guy friends" for that matter, not under ANY circumstances. The only guy friends that are acceptable for a woman to have is siblings/cousins.

    People need to stop lying to themselves. How many of these fellas actually feel truly 100% ok when their woman dances with other guys? I guarantee that even the fellas who are like Oh I never get jealous, that's just insecure have a small part deep down inside which doesn't like this, but they are too plugged in and too fucking dumb to listen to that part. It's called a gut instinct for a reason, and every man has it, I don't care how "alpha" you are, you have that instinctual reaction. Start listening to your gut people, it has an important message to teach you.

    [–]Obsequiae 5 points6 points  (3 children)

    I sure as fuck wouldn't tolerate my girl dancing with another guy, or having "close guy friends" for that matter, not under ANY circumstances. The only guy friends that are acceptable for a woman to have is siblings/cousins.

    I wholly agree. Been in an LTR for 3 years and drew the line firmly in the ground regarding this. I am protecting my own interests and will not have anyone try to trump what I value.

    Sometimes my girl will try to berate me for taking her away from her old friends, though I either laugh at her or simply ignore the not-so-subtle dig at my frame.

    [–]1pcadrian 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    drew the line firmly in the ground regarding this

    This is key. There is no reason to react with mad jealousy. People don't get this. All they have to do is what you did: lay down the rules when you have the commitment talk, and she can take it or leave it. You take swift action if the rules are violated. Doesn't get simpler than this. Nobody is forcing anybody to do anything here.

    The problem people have is that it takes balls. And anything that takes balls is "misogynistic" and "controlling."

    [–]Obsequiae 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Precisely. She knows full when she can leave whenever she wants to, though the beautiful thing is that after she gets agitated and has her little rant I'll just fuck her and she'll forget about all her woes.

    Sometimes I'll see where a conservation is going and start laughing out of what I can only define as amused mastery.

    Shit tests, particularly since frequenting this sub, have absolutely lessened in frequency. As of late, in fact, she keeps wondering how she managed to get me as a boyfriend - I have lifted for four years, am very strong for my weight and lean.

    TRP works, though I admit I have applied my own little spin on it so to fine-tune it to my situation(s) - work, relationship, etc. TRP can be applied in many, if not all, social (and personal) situations.

    [–]1DavidTeGnome 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Also, you think the girlfriend hasn't awared the boyfriend to all her orbiters shit talking about him.

    [–]foldpak111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I'm just spit balling here but wouldn't the chance of cheating increase the more alpha you are because of the higher adrenaline rush?

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      [–]JDilly 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Can you elaborate on what you mean by them playing with you? Sounds like flirting but it sounds way more fun than that he way you describe it.

      [–]Pyrrah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      You forgot confirmed gay guy. Those dudes will back you up.

      [–]t21spectre 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      Exactly. And you know that 10 year beta orbiter tries to sabotage her relationships. If he can't have her he's not going to let any other guy. The boyfriend knows exactly what's up with him.

      Also, people are the screenwriters and directors of their own stories. More accurately creep orbiter was probably being a not-so-sneaky saboteur and the boyfriend put him in his place. Then orbiter runs to the internet because feelz and tells "his version" of the story on TwoX for his much needed validation.

      [–]1pcadrian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      He'll probably end up showing that thread to his "friend" so she can see the abuse, and be saved.

      [–]Claude_Reborn 13 points14 points  (4 children)

      Will someone PLEASE link that fucking chump the "time ho" video from the late Patraice O'Neil

      Oh wait it's on two X, so he is going to get told nothing but bad advice.

      It's going to be fucking hilarious to watch him crash and burn.

      [–]makethemsayayy 5 points6 points  (3 children)

      You should continue to be a nice guy (pussy-ass bitch), I would LOVE to date you! (if you came across me in IRL I'd shut you down with a super nice excuse!

      [–]jcrpta 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      I don't think the problem is "women don't like nice guys".

      Having read NMMNG, I think the problem is that men have a totally fucked up view of what a "nice guy" is. So both genders are using the same terminology, but it means completely different things.

      [–]FerrusMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      There are nice guys, and there are weak guys. Unfortunately society, both men and women, have basically lumped them into the same thing. I have to continually remind people that I'm nice, but not weak, and it always shocks them.

      [–]foldpak111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Women like kind, not nice, guys. Think Elliot Hulse demeanor. He's not an asshole AMOG'ing everyone, but you know not to mess with him.

      Nice guys come from a place of weakness and neediness.

      Kind guys come from a place of grounding in the mind and body.

      [–]1Incognitro777 20 points21 points  (4 children)

      I like the part where he mentions knowing the girl's family, and her ex bf. What really took the cake was the ending of the interaction where he said "I respect you and A, CAN I SHAKE YOUR HAND ?"...

      JESUS!!!!

      [–]Dwayne_Jason 21 points22 points  (3 children)

      You could hear his balls dropping at the sight of violence. Normally, I wouldn't condone violence of any kind but if you have any balls, you gotta stand up for yourself. Fuck her, think about your dignity and self-respect fr a minute. You claim you hate this dude, but you'll shake his hand like a bitch?

      [–]iopq 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Isn't balls dropping a good thing? Like if his balls dropped he'd actually become more confident?

      [–]Luke666808g 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I think he meant dropping as in detaching from his body and dropping to the floor.

      [–]nouveaugosse 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      Never expect a woman to be your friend.

      [–]ambassador_of_porn 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      10 years of friendship? Probably more like 10 years of delusion.

      [–]MajesticShadow104 11 points12 points  (4 children)

      Is it weird that I find myself more angry at this Beta for taking this bullshit? I don't get angry with the women (hamsters be hamstering) but the men who let this behaviour go on really do.

      And 10 years of friendship with a woman? What the fuck were you thinking?

      [–]FerrusMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      And 10 years of friendship with a woman? What the fuck were you thinking?

      He'll be here someday once he chokes down the red pill.

      [–]fatalcharm 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I think so too. She had a boyfriend and the friend asked her to dance. She said no because she obviously thought that it would be innipropriate and when her boyfriend got angry about it because it's not right to ask another guys girlfriend to dance, she didn't say anything because she agreed with the boyfriend.

      It might not be exactly what happened, but it's definitely a possibility.

      [–]FerrusMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      That's how I read it as well.

      [–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Really? First of all you get punked out and instead of siding with you, 10 years of friendship just went out the window for a NEW boyfriend she is just starting to date.

      Female friendship isn't worth the bullshit if you're a beta. If you're a beta women will just use you as an emotional surrogate for an actual committed (sexual) relationship. As soon as they get that, they'll act like you barely exist. If everything goes to shit with the new BF, guess who'll come back all of a sudden? Even more perversely, as a beta, you'll be hoping it all goes to shit for her so you can monopolise her attention and "get her back." It's so fucking unhealthy from the emotionally co-dependent beta and the emotionally exploitative woman.

      Women and betas make me sick, they're so similar.

      [–]unknowinglyRP 28 points29 points  (24 children)

      I don't know. This guy writes so beta/girly that I'm sure he is lying, trickle-truthing and hamsterring.

      If this is true, the guy shouldn't have overtly threatened violence, but I'd be damned if I'd let my girl dance with another guy. Completely disrespectful.

      [–]trpalternate 20 points21 points  (2 children)

      I've had a good female friend of around ten years never any sexual attraction just we get along well

      She is fairly attractive to men, just not my type.

      She also has a fun outgoing personality that is an added bonus

      Yep, He's hamstering. Hasn't gotten anything out of 10 years of orbiting so she's a "friend."

      [–]TRPingBalls 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      "I never had a crush, she's just hot and fun and perfect. But don't worry, I totally don't wish I could sleep with her. Though if she wanted to, of course I'd say yes. But that doesn't mean anything!"

      [–]FerrusMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      But that doesn't mean anything!"

      This pretty much says it all, and means everything. Just like any other beta, he's secretly hoping one night she will just strip her clothes off and launch herself at him. But he's been too afraid to make a move for all these years, because he's been taught by society that women don't really want aggressive guys, and that he will win in the end, because he's being a nice guy. It's only a matter of time, right?

      It's like a broken record that somehow starts getting played again.

      [–]2 Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 12 points13 points  (16 children)

      Yeah, when I put myself in the shoes of the new boyfriend... I'm coming into a situation where my new g/f has a male "friend" of 10 years and he is a typical beta worm that wriggles his way between the girl and her relationships. It's very telling that OP is unimpressed by the boyfriend's martial artistry (he says yawn blah blah blah) and argues with him about fitness. Wtf? He sounds like a douche and if I were the new b/f I would have had a similar visceral reaction.

      [–]unknowinglyRP 11 points12 points  (15 children)

      Yeah, he's without a doubt your average beta orbiter waiting for her to hit the wall.

      Segway though because MMA and such is so popular on this sub: I don't think it's telling about him being unimpressed by the boyfriend's martial art history strictly because 99999 out of 100000 people who claim such are completely full of shit and the reality is they spent 4 weeks at a MMA club 6 years ago before quitting; Furthermore, these cunts are always 130lb soaking wet which makes sense him arguing about fitness.....but all that should be thrown aside. His best friend of 10 years is a fucking girl lol. Game over.

      [–]omg_cats 16 points17 points  (3 children)

      Segway is a scooter. You're looking for segue.

      [–]unknowinglyRP 20 points21 points  (2 children)

      Nope, im looking for a scooter

      [–]cutegirlsthrowaway 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Textbook frame holding right here

      [–]Galton666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      That explains why /u/GayLubeOil uses the word "tenant" when really means "tenet."

      [–]2 Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 5 points6 points  (5 children)

      I think it may have been the new boyfriend's attempt to form some form of friendship or at least converse on a neutral guy topic. Any time a guy tries to talk to me about sports I acknowledge the attempt to bridge a gap even though I personally don't follow sports. It's a bonding mechanism. Beta boy threw it right back in his face with disdain. The message was properly received by the new boyfriend.

      [–]unknowinglyRP 9 points10 points  (3 children)

      My whole point is that having some cunt in their first meeting mention that they are a "MMA champion" is just laughable on so many counts and they are doing it to because they are insecure (regardless of whether or not it's true that they are an "MMA champion" [reality means they won a round sparring])"

      [–]2 Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      I definitely agree with you on that. However since we only read this story from one angle, who knows what the guy REALLY said. Maybe he said he tried MMA and won a couple of fights and the beta got all butt hurt and before angrily typing his story to reddit he turns it into "champion" to garner more sympathy for himself against the big bad bully. We'll never know.

      [–]unknowinglyRP 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      That does make more complete sense, thanks

      [–]iopq 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      He could also have been an amateur MMA champion of Quahog at 130lbs which means he had exactly one other guy to beat in that geographical area at his weight. Champion doesn't mean world champion.

      [–]Turkeytom86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Yep. Boyfriend was probably trying to be a bro and actually get to know his girlfriend's friends. Even if they are pansy men.

      [–]TRP_James 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Yea you do hear a lot about MMA and lifting on this sub.

      You always hear some 130 or 220 pound guy talking about their 'fit' days.

      'Mate I used to bench 343342'

      IDGAF, you can't now and that's what relevant.

      [–]Galton666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      If they choose to quit being fit, then they shouldn't be surprised when that has consequences as far as female attention is concerned.

      [–]AlwaysBulking1 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      " the reality is they spent 4 weeks at a MMA club 6 years ago before quitting" So much this, im very into mma and a few years back while I was still at school I remember these two guys I vaguely recognized from the year below came in to train, we did some drills with them and I was amazed that even after showing them how to slip a jab and then throwing one at 20% speed they would freeze up and take it on the nose. They stayed for two weeks while slacking off and refusing to spar. About a month later im at school and I see one of the kids face to face with an even younger student, he was threatening to headkick him and boasting about training. I walked over and told him to fuck off but it really made me skeptical of people who claim to train, as usually they are full of chit.

      [–]unknowinglyRP 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I've never met a person who trains who talks about; if you talk, you are the military equivalent of a Garet Trooper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8uIwi1oHuw

      [–]Galton666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      About a month later im at school and I see one of the kids face to face with an even younger student, he was threatening to headkick him and boasting about training.

      No surprises there. There seems to be an inverse correlation between being a bully and being truly knowledgeable and adept at martial arts.

      [–]mypasswordismud 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      I'd be willing to bet part of the reason he got aggressive was because she was complaining to her new boyfriend about what a creep and an annoyance her "friend" of 10 years has been.

      [–]unknowinglyRP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      That makes sense, but if you do anything more than a one night stand with a chick who has a "male bff of 10 years", then you really are begging for this scenario

      [–]Catalyst5474 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Doesn't that scream insecurity and jealousy? Wouldn't a more RP view be to let your girl dance with whoever she wants because you know at the end of the night you are taking her home and fucking her?

      [–]supercreeper1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yes. New to reading this but new bf is such a fucking beta its a joke. He has enough game to get the girl but he is terrified someone will win her away.

      [–]TheHatedGuy 12 points13 points  (1 child)

      girls don't have friends, there was post about that before were the girls stick around the highest friends and so on.

      [–]hamhamt 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      could you link that? something like that happened to me a couple of months ago

      [–]ChaletBoy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Women AND men tend to drop people when they usefulness plateaus. This new boyfriend has more potential than that 10 year stagnant friendship ever will. That's human nature, you risk losing something with a known stable value to gain something that might be better. And fortunately for her, she knows this beta will come back to her rescue if things don't work out with her romantic relationships. Congrats buddy, you've learned a hard lesson in taking care of yourself because nobody will for you.

      [–]2RedPillSafe 15 points16 points  (9 children)

      Don't be friends with women.

      Men are capable of friendship because if we are stoic and live in the objective world then reality pretty much stays the same from decade to decade.

      Women hamster daily (hourly) so you are never really "friends" with anything solid.

      Throw in modern Feminist hypergamy and a woman's capacity for friendship approaches zero.


      The good news is that the beta wasn't a Red Pill poster. (not yet anyway)

      [–]Dark-Ulfberht 9 points10 points  (8 children)

      Don't be friends with women.

      Yeah, to be honest, I don't even know how this happens to adults.

      I haven't had a woman as a "friend" since I was 15. This wasn't even on purpose; it's just that the activities in which I found myself were populated by men. My work and all my extra-curricular activities were almost exclusively masculine.

      The only time I interacted with women as an adult, outside of family and an off-chance professional encounter, involved some sort of sexual undertone. What the hell are all these men doing such that they find themselves constantly in non-sexual relationships with women? Honestly, it kind of baffles me.

      [–]popthatpill 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      Yeah, to be honest, I don't even know how this happens to adults.

      How and why men waste their time being friends with women is one of those mysteries of life I'll never solve. Even here in TRP, there are hordes of supposed "redpill" guys with female friends.

      Someone here once said something like "either a woman wants to fuck you or use you, comport yourself accordingly". If she's not fucking you, she's using you.

      I think you can get a good handle on how red-pillable a guy is by seeing if he thinks male-female friendships are weird and/or stupid. If he does, he's probably a good prospect.

      [–]Dark-Ulfberht 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      Really early on I accepted the logic of natural selection. When it comes to male-female relationships, the implication is very simple. If a woman has no desire to sleep with you, it means she thinks she can do better.

      True or not, any dude with a modicum of self-respect cannot suffer such an insult. The only respectable thing to do is cut ties immediately.

      [–]Just_for_boobs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Men and women can only have relationships with mutual benefits. Either you fuck them or they extend your access to other women that you can fuck.

      [–]Iramohs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Apparently she used to be his dance partner and he's been orbiting ever since.

      [–]smoothjazzanarchist 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      Just insight from someone who does have female friends (I am aware this is stupid), we usually stay friends with women who we failed to get into a sexual relationship, but we think there's something remarkable about them so we don't want to let them go. The only reason I have female friends is because I wanted to fuck one of them at some point, they were my roommates, or they were part of my friend group so we have a lot of good experiences.

      I would absolutely fuck any of them because they are all hot, but I also really give a shit about them the way I care about my guy friends. I don't orbit them or mourn for them or find a reason to see them. I'm not waiting for them to hit the wall, and only two of them are LTR material but they're just not interested in me that way.

      I never grew up playing sports or liking typical guy things like sports and cars. I have always had a very close group of guy friends and an extended group of girl friends. I am seen as non-threatening, I am not confident, and I can't spin them as plates so my only option is to keep them around or ditch them entirely.

      I've always found it easier to talk to girls than guys, but hard to attract girls. I also have lots of social anxiety and around people in general.

      So, yeah, long story short: we have women friends because we don't know how to transition into sexual relationships, and we actually communicate and relate well to these women. They want us in their lives, just not sexually, so we keep in contact with them.

      [–]makethemsayayy 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      if you raised your SMV you wouldn't be so nervous and self-loathing, and you'd feel more confident and less socially inept. Seeing girls stare at you would do wonders for you.

      [–]PalTonk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      To have good looking girl friends can be a very good thing when it comes to picking up other girls, or get together with their friends. I'm not always attracted to the good looking girl friends I meet.

      Like I Acknowledge that they are pretty, but my dick doesn't agree. So, they work very good to get other once. Nothing better than a wingwoman.

      But of course, they will not be as good friends as my guy friends.

      [–]Turkeytom86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      The only women I interact with non-sexually on a regular basis are the ones I work with.

      [–]Transmigratory 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Going on 2XC... they might as well put the content of the blue pill through his veins.

      [–]OurMindsLiveOn 3 points4 points  (3 children)

      What bugged me was he said after the dude threatened to whoop his ass he wanted to shake his hand. Thats scumy as fuck.

      [–]mykonos_rm 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      An obvious sign of submission. He may as well as bent over.

      [–]Blake55 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Yeah, especially when you consider the historical background of handshakes. It wasn't always a display of respect, it was demonstrating that you are unarmed.

      [–]foldpak111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      You see the same in ape society. The alpha will approach newcomers and they make themselves submissive to him. Fuckin pathetic, I'll die before I submit. Unless you're in the military, obviously.

      [–]Redpillc0re 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      BFFs with a girl, really? She did him a favor by cutting him off.

      [–]17 Endorsed ContributorWhisper 10 points11 points  (4 children)

      Mr 10 year guy isn't her friend, he's her orbiter. They have never been friends.

      [–]mykonos_rm 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Typical RP on display. Sex trumps friendships. Fuck the bp beta orbitor.

      [–]aHangingChad 2 points3 points  (3 children)

      it's just that I have a military background and concepts like loyalty and friendship is suppose to mean something.

      Several of us do, but this reason is exactly why women should not be able to join the Armed forces in a combat capacity. If I had my way, they wouldn't join at all. 10 years of friendship means nothing to a girl who thinks she's found a way to fuck her way to the middle. Duty, Honor, Loyalty... these are exclusively male concepts.

      About this pathetic douche beta, the slut and the tough guy, I'll be willing to wager several things:

      1, tough guy is probably one of the first Alphas slut has dated.

      2, Tough Guy doesn't sound overly Alpha. He's more of an asshole than anything who's reaping the coincidental benefits of having a couple of alpha traits. I've been around MMA guys and Operators and the like and they have control of a situation by their prescence alone. Don't even need to threaten to beat Beta's head in for sabotaging his relationship. Just treat Beta like a female, Agree and Amplify or Amused Mastery.

      3, Beta is hopelessly brainwashed, typical Nice Guy Syndrome. Says that Slut isn't his type because he's been trying to get with her for 10 years and is getting frustrated that he can't friendship and FEELZ his way into some sex with his oneitis. Consequently, he's trying to sabotage anyone else who tries to come close to Slut because Beta Reason 1: If I can't have her, none of you douchebags can have her. Only they do and probably show him the pictures where she has cum on her face, but he's too pussy to man up and leave. Doesn't know how to take care of himself in any way. Completely pussified.

      4, Slut is doing exactly what she's supposed to be doing. AWALT, no problems here. AF/BB, she goes to the winning side. 10 bucks said she told Tough Guy to take care of her Ten Year Problem because he was being "creepy". You almost feel for the guy because you and I were there once, but extreme pain is the only way he might ever find the truth.

      [–]foldpak111 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Being a gym rat made me RP before I even found this sub. When you get done doing a psycho workout like say 5x25 back squat @ 225#, you realize that ain't no one gonna help you but you. Op needs to hit the weights HARD.

      [–]FerrusMan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      but extreme pain is the only way he might ever find the truth.

      Yep, or a long time of going without good sex and wondering what the fuck is he doing wrong. Maybe nice guys really don't get laid.

      [–]aHangingChad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Even a broken clock is right twice a day. But yeah, generally not.

      [–]Overzealous_BlackGuy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Ive had female friends before. My bestfriend, NEVER let her boyfriend get in the way. I have had another female friend that did, and a male friend as well. It really is disrespectful.

      The one male friend made me walk back on base because he didnt feel like driving in with this girl he wanted to fuck. This was right after we helped him move in for free.

      [–]1kick6 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Let's call this what it is. They weren't best friends. He was just too much of a phaggot to recognize his role. Not really his fault, though. Society has conspired to convice all of us that this is the correct path to ""true love.""

      [–]aa223 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      This guy just wasted 10 years on a person who doesn't even treat him like a friend. He probably paid for all her dinners and shit too. He is better off without her and he should just focus on himself, hang around with other males, and live the way he wants to.

      [–]rebuildingMyself 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      I'm sure after Mr Tough Guy pumps and dumps her she'll "remember" her loyal beta orbiter until the next alpha thug comes around for a piece.

      [–]wiseprogressivethink 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Women often act as leeches toward their male friends, sucking as much empathy/attention/affection out of them as possible. But when a Big Cock with a Big Wallet enters her life, those male friends get dropped like a bag of hot monkey pus.

      [–]gzmaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Don't even always need the big wallet, sometimes they'll keep the male beta friend close to provide monetary favors whilst riding Big Cock

      [–]Derjenige 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I like how there are even posts talking about how he can help her by staying in touch, etc.

      I'm a strong empowered wimmen but pls halp.

      [–]PlanB_pedofile 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Friends with a female need redpill rules just like any other relationship.

      Gotta be ready to NEXT her like a fwb who found a new boyfriend.

      She's gonna choose her man in every situation. Gotta deal with that. The woman's loyalty is never to her friends but with who she's fucking at the time. A woman will dump family, morals, friends, even leave kids for a cock that gives her attention.

      By being able to NEXT a female friend is part of the redpill mindset. Okay you two haven't fucked nor ever will. If anticipation of sex was the reason for friendship then you fucked up on your end and became an orbiter. Friendship shoukd take sex off the table.

      A woman can never be your best friend. Reason being a best friend is willing to drop everything to come to your rescue. A woman's loyalty lies with her man. The man dictates a woman's friends, social life, who she chats with.

      When you chat with your female friend her boyfriend sees every bit of that conversation. So talk to your female friend like you are also talking to her boyfriend cuz she's sharing everything you say with him.

      When things go south. Gotta NEXT. You shouldn't have one exclusive female friend. That's oneitis. Have multiple female friends. If one chooses her man over you, go call up any other one and hang with them. Each female friend should be easily replaceable because face it, you're replaceable.

      [–]PlanB_pedofile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      To add on that. Don't ever develop a friend oneitis. Your woman friends should know that you are not exclusive with any one of them. Let her know that by bringing in another female friend. Constantly seek out new just as you would with building a harem or plates.

      Bring more women into your social circle. Just as constantly approaching is a form of dread game to your LTR, hanging out and pulling in other women is the same form of dread to a female friend. You are not her orbiter, she is in yours. She will never disobey her man but women want cake and eat it too. When you indicate you can leave the friendship or move on to another woman she'll feel that dread and will work harder to pull you back into her orbit.

      Just gotta set boundaries

      [–]BlueFreedom420 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Blue pill men make me sick. He probably deluded himself into thinking they were friends. She probably picked the biggest asshole just to keep this orbiter away.

      [–]TreePlusTree 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      If you and a girl are just friends, you're not friends. Men don't get it, we have the instinct to form tight bonds for hunting groups, women don't, they aren't your friend like your bros are.

      Example, talk to a woman like you would a real friend, see what happens lol

      [–]HAQ_be 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Fuck that shit.

      Men cant be friends with women. Its not only that one can fall in love with the other but also disgusting things like these that shall happen.

      [–]john-b 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      I don't see how that new boyfriend can be praised, in only that he must be doing something right to attract her. Beyond that, his whole macho game is completely against what I consider RP behavior & he was obviously had insecurities.

      Most people were betas to varying degrees before ranking up, so it's incredibly easy for most men to spot beta males from miles away. This new boyfriend should have easily seen him as a non-threat and simply had a good night.

      Not everything has to be a win/lose situation, pursued aggressively while grinding others under your heel to come out ahead.

      [–]Mightyskunk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Girls are so messed up when it comes to friends. My wife, ten years in, still knows she's #2 in my life behind my best bro. I've known him longer, and he and I know everything about each other. Hell, we're practically psychic with each other. Even after ten years, my wife and I ain't.

      [–]Movonnow 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      This post is so full of blue pill shit, I find it delicious. It's a classic example of orbiting : the nice beta friendzoned guy tries to proove that the girl's new alpha boyfriend is dangerous (hell, he even turns to the internet validation for that).

      I am convinced this fucker doesn't tell everything, and I'm sure what he tells is not true. First, he is attracted to the girl otherwise why would he writes so much lines about how she is perfect? Why would he orbit her for ten years? For FRIENDSHIP? Because she is such a great gal? Come on. The only solution I can think of is if he's gay.

      During all of his post, he can't stop explaining why he would do such a better boyfriend. He even states many times why he DESERVES it "I've known her for ten years", "look, I'm white knighting, I'm the only one truly caring for her", "I KNOW HER FAMILY C'MON" etc... such a nice guy script. What's funny is, he doesn't defend her. He only smother her by trying to spoil her relationship with alpha guy. What's even more funny is how he interprets his meeting with the guy. This beta is so much friendzoned, so much desperate that alpha guy sensed his interest for his girl so that he protected what was his. OP gives us all the clues that indicates he is another desperate orbiter.

      Another funny thing we can tell from this post is how much low value OP is. He can't stop putting alpha guy down "yeah he is a MMA champion but but but...."yawn, bla, bla, bla", he was not in great shape, I was not afraid of him, see how strong I am? (yeah, that's why you ran away from the situation after giving your balls to him. Wait, no, you gave up on your balls ten years ago, my bad)". If he was of high value he wouldn't have any need to put others down. Plus, the need he has to put him down is ridiculous "as soon as I've seen him I hated him, he is an asshole!!!".

      To me, all this shoulder grasp means only one thing : like for all her orbiters, this girl had to give at least a little something to him like hugs and shit like that so that maybe his shoulder grasp was a little sensual because he was used to her getting away with it in order to let him think their relationship was "special".

      Finally, what's resume this post well is "I don't think he will hurt her but I am affraid he will do so (wtf, seriously?) PLEASE tell me I'm so much better than him!" (yeah and you just said at the begining of the post he was the one having an ego issue?). He doesn't even want to think about the possibility that, maybe, his strategy is not the best one and that he will not get what he wants with her. Yea, you are awesome man, it's the world's fault if you are not getting what you want, don't ever try to change buddy.

      Hell, I could go on and on. There are so much hilarious things in this post, but I will stop here.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I think you're quite right. Saved me the time of writing it up too.

      [–]Kite23 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Don't stick around a girl like that. Girls need to be hit over the head to learn. Fuck that friendship sounds like she likes it.

      [–]Stopher 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      She was in an abususive relationship. She was abusing that OP.

      [–]Kyuzo_ 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      I hate to be the dude quoting rap lyrics on this but uhhh....

      These hoes ain't loyal

      It covers quite a bit of ground

      [–]doritoesNcoffee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      "Don't save her , she don't wanna be saved" - j cole

      [–]makethemsayayy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Honestly rap is one of the few RP things flourishing in modern society.

      [–]CockFlavour 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Too bad black culture is necrotic and self-destructing.

      [–]1Padre55 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Loyalty and Friendship do still have meaning, the deal with women is they are SITUATIONALLY loyal and "friends". This is why she did not say anything during all of that nonsense.

      Situationally, a "friend' v lover, she went with lover, though she still considers the dummy a "friend" to be sure.

      This is why having female "friends" is a bum deal for a man

      [–]Rougepellet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      All these captain save-a-ho dumbasses need to discover how idiotic their white-knighting is by getting massive burn from some girl they were trying to save (why they think she needs saving and they will be the knight in shining armor is beyond me).

      [–]skylineboulevard 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Regardless whether you think men can be "friends" with a woman or not, sounds like she never respected the OP anyway, so were they really friends? No. That's what you get for being a beta orbiter after all. I do think it is possible to be "just friends" with a woman from experience, but it is rare.

      But the boyfriend does sound like a pussy.

      [–]1DavidTeGnome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      According to the orbiter... I mean really...

      [–]brotherjustincrowe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      You can't be friends with someone who neither respects you nor genuinely even likes you, by definition. This is a simple parasite/host relationship.

      [–]SuperAwesomeness 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      If you are a girl, imagine the horror of a beta orbiter grabbing you in front of a lot of people. That dragged her social status down big time

      [–]Kiwikeeper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Clever point. Expands nicely on "women can't be our friends".

      For females a male friend is socially lower-value than them. Otherwise he would at least be among the "fuckables". Thus he is immediately forgotten once a high SMV alpha comes into play

      [–]miss_sogony 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      And he'll forgive her as soon as the relationship ends and she needs a tampon again.

      [–]Itachiultra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      So uhm, is OP a faggot again?

      [–]brotherjustincrowe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Women. Friends. No.

      It's that simple. Not with you, not with other men, not with other women. FWB or GTFO.

      [–]rumo_itaki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Huh. I kinda assumed women were supposed to be loyal to the person who fucks them and anyways not allowed to have male friends?

      I mean ok mate guarding isn't really liked here, so there's that but bf could have still nexted her.

      [–]GentleGiant350 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      So, wait, let me get this straight...

      OP talks shit about this guy behind bf's back, orbits his woman trying to work his way in on her, wants to dance with her, puts his hands on her when he asks...

      ...and I'm supposed to be upset at new bf for not being super nice to this guy when OP was probably nice, deferrent, even civil to him after talking shit?

      I wouldn't even be able to look at this chickenshit motherfucker.

      That being said, I am very much a person who belives that violence and threats thereof should be restricted to self defense only, so I'm against that.

      As for the woman, she should take her bf's side. That's what you're supposed to do in a relationship. How can OP think she's doing wrong there?

      [–]TekkomanKingz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Seems like if Women ruled the world Europe would be at War with each other every day of the week. France would be in an alliance with Russia today and then with Germany tomorrow. Perhaps the simple answer to this dilemma is Women have short-term memory regarding friendships and bonds specifically. 10 years means nothing to them all they care about is the present.

      [–]CockFlavour 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      "Can I shake your hand?" What a fucking beta thing to ask....

      [–]throvvvvavvvvay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Of course she didn't say anything, a big part of that was theatrics.

      The new boyfriend was drawing a clear boundary with the friend. He was basically saying "you're a man so you only get a certain level of closeness with her while I'm around" He was also demonstrating to her how he's willing to get physical without actually having to get physical. The friend was a moderately safe way (safe for everyone involved) to show this because he knew an actual fight would be avoided easier than if it was some random who didn't give a shit about either of them. The friend probably could have saved face without a fight but he definitely isn't doing that by emailing her after the fact to try and take his side.

      Also anyone who doesn't get that a friendship with a woman is a completely different dynamic than a friendship with another man is still plugged in. The rules are similar in some ways but they're not the same thing.

      [–]CastratedBetaOrbiter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      There is nothing more pathetic than a beta orbiter.

      I hope he gets his teeth kicked in, so he wakes the fuck up and realizes she doesn't care two shits about his orbit ass.

      [–]OakTr3E 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      He is not a friend. He is an orbiter. He just got knocked out of his current orbit by an alpha. Even if he was a bit of a wannabe he was alpha enough for her cut communicatio with the 10 year orbiter.

      But don't worry! Maybe he is more like a comet now (very long elliptical orbit). Getting back later when communication signals are stronger (when she gets dumped by or dump the guy later). Then he can reenter orbit again and comfort her about the breakup with that asshole guy. Like "a true friend".

      [–]BlackHeart89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I actually understand where the guy is coming from.

      I had a female friend with whom I wasn't attracted to. I feel like she grew to like me, but realized I wasn't interested. Anyway, she got into a relationship with some guy I met before and suddenly disappeared off the map. I have been friends with her since I was 17. I'm 25 now. She has sent me money on several occasions when I was jobless, bought me gifts, and was always down to hang out if I was bored.

      I attempted to call, text, and message her on FB on several occasions and just figured she was busy and left it alone. Then she hit me up one time asking why I hadn't hit her up at all and that she had called me a few times (this is true. I was returning her calls). She claimed she never received any of them. I then realized her dude knows her password and they share a phone....

      Next situation happened where I ran into her at the admissions office of our school after not hearing from her in months. We hung out and chatted for 30 min or so before I took her home. But here's the kicker. She asked that I drop her off a block away from her place since she didn't tell him beforehand that we were hanging out. She didn't want him to start tripping. Wtf?

      I was a bit concerned for her, but I knew from other stories I heard and the way women around me acted in other situations that I couldn't do shit about it. Even if I whooped the guy's ass, she'd go back. So I just left it alone. She "seemed" happy. But I think it was a fake happy.

      Just saying...