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[–]Evil_Patriarch 215 points216 points  (34 children)

I lost it in the middle of the commercial

"A girl's confidence plummets during puberty."

No shit. EVERYONE'S confidence plummets during puberty! But of course only the struggle of girls matters.

What gets me is that they are clearly implying the plummet is a direct result of the "like a girl" line being an insult. Because not only are pre-pubescent girls magically unaffected by it, but the confidence-shattering effects of puberty are totally due to some sports saying and not at all related to the fact that you are suddenly incredibly aware of the opposite sex and basing your self worth on their approval (again, true for both men and women)

[–]M1s4n7hr0p3 95 points96 points  (2 children)

Not to mention the overwhelming majority of that pubescent confidence shattering finds its basis in girls being cutthroat bitches to one another.

[–]cookiecutterbullshit 28 points29 points  (0 children)

no it's from the mean creepy stares that they get from all the older boys!

[–]AngraMainyuu 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Likewise boys confidence starts to suffer from the sudden competition for female acceptance, as well, female rejection suddenly matters at that age.

[–]1Mikesapien 70 points71 points  (4 children)

...like a girl

No boy ever said this about girls for long.

Boy: "You do X like a girl!"

Girl: "I AM a girl, stupid."

In my pubescent experiences, this was pretty self-policing.

[–]brandor77 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Thank you for articulating this. I was trying to put my finger on the big flaw in the message, and couldn't quite. "Throw like a girl" is shaming language boys use, and the exaggerated motions they show in the commercial are not an an insult to women, but to men. "Did you just insult your sister?" The answer is, "No, my brother."

[–]colovick 20 points21 points  (2 children)

It was guys saying it to other guys. Correcting behavior through bullying.

[–]1Mikesapien 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Well, "bullying" - there is a difference between applying corrective social pressure, and physical/psychological coercion. Telling some he does something "like a girl" doesn't quite fit the bill for bullying.

[–]colovick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's the simplest word to describe the action.

[–]jquest23 38 points39 points  (3 children)

It's the males fault for female confidence , of course

[–]yoreel 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Not sure about your formative years, but I remember the other girls in middle/high school being the much more aggressive and brutal to their female peers and the guys usually just sat on the sidelines because girl politics were a bloodbath and no sane person would willingly get in the middle of that shit.

[–]rcglinsk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was talking to my sister about her plans to home school my niece and she said "why would you want someone you love to experience middle school?" Made sense.

[–]jquest23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was being a bit sarcastic in my comment . But yeah , my middle / hs was same way as you described.

[–]beerthroway 15 points16 points  (2 children)

I lost it on that commercial too. It makes me want to only support boys now. We all know how shitty it is as a guy to deal with early puberty. Far worse than girls. Girls get boobs and beautiful. Boys get angry and the first one to hit puberty gets strong and pushes everyone else around.

[–]5 Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Also, no one has a problem teenage girls being teenage boys.

But when teenage boys start being teenage boys, it's "problematic" behavior that needs to be medicated away.

[–]beerthroway 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I try to get boys to "man up" in various ways. I'll covertly promote the idea that respect is more important than love (for men). I'll get them to shake my hand and make solid eye contact and call them out on it if they don't. If one makes fun of the other, instead of berating the bully, I encourage the bullied one to stand up for himself.

Gotta let boys be boys.

[–]Kharn0 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Damn straight. I was a late bloomer so my confidence was garbage, it didn't help that my nipples are puffy and encircled by long dark hair, they also grew years before my chest hair did so it was awful looking.

[–]fauxshoh 0 points1 point  (15 children)

While I agree everyone experiences a confidence drop in puberty, let's not be so quick to adopt a victim mentality.

At the end of the day, testosterone has profound effects on self-confidence that we should embrace and be thankful for.

[–]2 Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 15 points16 points  (14 children)

I'd love to fact check this. Can you provide a source? If testosterone really makes men more confident I wonder why so many men kill themselves every day.

[–]fauxshoh 9 points10 points  (10 children)

Depression is a neurological issue stemming primarily from a lack of serotonin. Environmental issues have a complex but somewhat predictable effect on mental health (e.g. When your father dies you'll likely be more sad for a time.) Your backhanded quip that men have higher suicide rates doesn't mean we aren't more confident on average.

You've really never heard that test boosts mood and increases confidence? Source discussing depression and low test: http://europepmc.org/abstract/med/15669883

Another: http://mobile.journals.lww.com/psychosomaticmedicine/_layouts/oaks.journals.mobile/articleviewer.aspx?year=1980&issue=03000&article=00003#ath

Google "testosterone and self confidence" if you're still (somehow) skeptical and want more sources. There's hundreds. Or go read about body builders running test cycles (exogenous test makes you feel like a god if you've never experienced it for yourself). Or go lift some weights. But you know this already (hopefully), you just want to emphasize male suicide rates it seems.

And lol at the downvotes on my last post for disagreeing with the orthodoxy. Suicide is a multi-faceted issue, but to say men have lower confidence than women on average is patently and empirically false. One concession I'd like to make is that men still struggle with self confidence despite having a hormonal profile more conducive to self confidence. I don't think my last post said otherwise though.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Well said. Maybe the downvoters took exception to being called out on their victim mentality, which can be frequently found on TRP.

Male focus and confidence is more physical - directed towards action and risk-taking. In caveman terms: kill shit and bring it back home to eat.

Female focus and confidence is more social-oriented, and their earlier maturity puts them far ahead of boys in this aspect.

The confidence killer for girls has always been other girls. Those little bitches can be ruthless. But hell, lets just blame the boys so they can get used to shouldering all the responsibility.

[–]KarYotypeStereotype 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If we're going to blame one gender, I'd blame girls. Anyone who's ever had a daughter or a younger sister knows that girls backstab and gossip like nobody's business, and they create horrible self esteem for each other. Every guy knows that growing up, confidence tended to depend on the female attention he received.

But at the end of the day, your confidence is your own problem, no one else's. Nobody else is responsible for your happiness.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Not only depression causes suicide, losing everything you worked so hard to get can result in depression that isn't a chemical imbalance. Situations where men have nothing left to live for or the alternative is so much worse than death isn't depression, and I would surmise it's the reason more veterans are offing themselves.

You're right about trt, man what a difference it makes. Confidence, mood, and more are positively enhanced when your t levels are right compared to when they aren't.

[–]1niczar 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Not only depression causes suicide, losing everything you worked so hard to get can result in depression that isn't a chemical imbalance.

People with a particular genetic predisposition to depression are more likely to take longer to recover from such a blow. After a few such stressors, esp. if they happen at a young age, they are at risk of developing a chronic depressive disorder.

The brain is an organ and like all organs it works through chemical reactions as well as electrical phenomenons.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed, but meds don't always help, and some people who have never endured massive stressors are completely unprepared for it. Sometimes having huge amounts of stress at young ages makes it easier to endure even more later, but not without drawbacks. It relates to being hardened or toughened, but too much too fast breaks the machine.

[–]1niczar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Depression is a neurological issue stemming primarily from a lack of serotonin.

The serotonin hypothesis is pretty much dead. In any case it doesn't fit with the different types of depression (bipolar disorder or atypical depression). An actual lack of serotonin is more likely to result in an anxiety disorder, and more specifically OCD. To wit iirc rats whose serotonin supply was destroyed by a drug exhibited OCD. Furthermore SSRIs are significantly more effective, compared to placebo, for OCD than they are for depression. Finally antidepressants with no direct effect on serotonin are just as effective for depression as those that affect serotonin, but not for OCD.

[–]Elodrian 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Google "testosterone and self confidence" if you're still (somehow) skeptical and want more sources.

This is where confirmation bias comes from. I have no comment as to the validity of your claims, you may well be correct; however, the methodology you propose in researching the subject is going to give you results tailored to agree with your premise. It's not a reliable way to find correct answers.

[–]2 Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Suicide is a multi-faceted issue, but to say men have lower confidence than women on average is patently and empirically false.

Huh? What are you talking about...?

[–]fauxshoh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm saying that any report on self confidence will show males have, on average, higher self-confidence than women. It doesn't mean that males don't have issues with self-confidence though.

[–]redkick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One aspect that's often quoted is that there's no support for men when their life is going down the drain, because they're expected to get their shit together themselves (which is very redpill anyways).

There are a lot of safe houses for female victims of domestic violence, but whenever a man tries to open up the same for men, feminists violently lobby against it.

[–]xdrunkagainx 251 points252 points  (13 children)

As the commercial started at the party I'm attending the girls started to silence each other and the children so they were sure to here it's message. I watched annoyed as I was subjected to this blasphemy of superbowl ads. But all was not lost as the screen changed to an ad for Always, and all the men in the room erupted into uncontrollable laughter. The women sat mouth open, ashamed to be reminded that they still bleed like a girl.

[–]trpentine_ 130 points131 points  (0 children)

Same thing happened here. All the women shushed everyone and started with you-go-guurrlll's until the Tampon brand came up and everyone wound up laughing. Thank god. There's only so much forced empowerment I can take.

[–]winndixie 29 points30 points  (1 child)

To be fair, everything on TV including the Superbowl itself is a mish mash of what sells. It doesn't use logic, feminism or not.

Feminism + female audience + SuperBowl viewership + having this very controversial discussion = this commercial, because, projected profit > cost of commercial-time.

For every woman who is logical enough to see the irony of this commercial, there are 10 who go "woo, gurl power!"

It's like murder porn nowadays and how every TV show is a muscular white guy with a gun.

Why have the characters slowly turn to face front, in flawless clothes, even though you're a fireman? Because everyone watching TV are impressionable idiots.

[–]Kharn0 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would've up voted this, but I died.

[–]TestHaloAccount 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Bleed #likeagirl with Always tampons.

[–]cocoguard 4 points5 points  (7 children)

I watched bits and pieces of the game, must have missed that section. Why is it bad that women bleed? Feminism and anti-feminism aside, we're all human. Think about those Google commercials about "yay the human race is so great we landed a spaceship on a comet", I'm sure those have been followed up with Cheetos or some crap. Yeah it's humbling but not "erupting into uncontrollable laughter" or "mouth open, ashamed."

[–]1Mikesapien 78 points79 points  (3 children)

The product advertised is a tacit admission of the message's untruth - that is, the differences between the sexes are not all social constructs.

[–]2 Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Pithiest and most poignant comment here.

[–]2 Mredpillschool 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The product advertised is a tacit admission of the message's untruth - that is, the differences between the sexes are not all social constructs.

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[–]Rugnardl 82 points83 points  (1 child)

The ad falls into hypocrisy by trying to erase lines of separation between the genders, but the product being sold highlights the unchanging differences between men and women: dimorphism. The whole manufactured "seriousness of the issue" becomes completely silly when the ad inadvertently suggests that it's all bullshit.

[–]mickydonavan417 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Its not that its bad, its just a reminder that no amount of bullshit can allow women to escape the biological differences between the sexes.

[–]LimboLoves 85 points86 points  (27 children)

I saw it. Why are they trying so hard to change the perception of something true?

[–]papadop 67 points68 points  (5 children)

They aren't. They are trying to use branding and emotional responses of (empowerment) in order to sell more menstruation products and profit. They know that the ad will be popular among women (their market is every single woman ages 13-50 afterall). They by being social, preachy and pro-woman it will generate a positive response and be well received by their market. It's an easy one for Always, and remember their interest is not social change or acknowledging facts about men and women. It's about creating emotional responses in women which brand recognition, recall, understanding and ultimately product sales.

At the end of the day, only a weak and insecure gender would need to constantly assert itself as equal all the damn time and take every small saying as some form of deep rooted oppression. I KNOW women suck at throwing things. I KNOW that won't ever change. A TV commercial can't change the truth, so I don't really worry about it.. The only thing left to do as a confident male, is to simply ignore this crap altogether and focus your attention where it counts.

[–]Entrefut 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Add was likely written by a team of males in a marketing agency... go figure.

[–]link5057 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Explains the effectiveness of it I suppose

[–]2Red_August 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The Always ad is the Dove ad rebooted. It works as it taps directly into the delusional hamster, giving it the desired magical go-grrrl identity it seeks, resonates strongly, and thus pushes product very effectively.

[–]ShinyBrah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup. Marketers don't sell a brand, they sell emotions that you'll associate with said brand.

[–]Sirit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you're on point about the commercial aspect, but just to play devil's advocate, isn't this:

At the end of the day, only a weak and insecure gender would need to constantly assert itself as equal all the damn time

a form of kafkatrapping? ie. The fact that you deny being X is evidence in and of itself that you are X.

You're saying the fact that women deny being weak and insecure is evidence that they are, in fact, weak and insecure, which is fallacious reasoning.

[–]Ed_Pert_Hill 15 points16 points  (17 children)

[–]1aguy01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is why Feminism exists. It is an intentional form of ideological subversion. Just like all the other political happenings in the last 50 years, the US is being led down this path deliberately. Cloward-Piven

[–]TreePlusTree 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's called making a quick buck off of dumbass women. Every time I see an ad for women (80-90%) I laugh, it means we won, the free market has proven they are that much more gullible.

[–]krakosia 0 points1 point  (1 child)

They aren't trying to change anything - they are using appeal to emotion and using an easily understood and supportable by the masses aphorism to create a buzz around their product which will lead to increased sales and brand awareness

[–]LimboLoves 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe because I'm a guy, but that makes no sense to me.

[–]DisDumbNigga 71 points72 points  (7 children)

Yeah i don't get it. With their logic, telling someone they act like a 12 year would be an insult to 12 year olds...

[–]SenorPuff[S] 57 points58 points  (0 children)

logic

That's your problem right there. Pathos is the primary persuasive element these days.

[–]Hallelujah_G0at 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I'm pretty sure that they're not trying to say that doing (or saying someone is doing) something "like a girl" is an insult or that we should stop saying it. They're telling girls to not be offended by it; brush it off. They are who they are just like we are who we are, and there's no winning in dwelling on a moot point/fact.

[–]KarYotypeStereotype 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I disagree. How do you explain the whole "did you just insult your sister" bit with this interpretation?

[–]DisDumbNigga 1 point2 points  (2 children)

wishful thinking on your part. It's trying to shame using "like a girl" as an insult. Words require context awareness.

[–]Hallelujah_G0at 0 points1 point  (1 child)

To each his own I guess; I'm confident in my interpretation.

[–]DisDumbNigga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

watched it again. you're right..it does seem like their overall message is "lets make 'like a girl'" mean amazing things. run like a girl- as fast as you can..touche

[–]iBrokeRSA 47 points48 points  (11 children)

Meanwhile, Sarah Silverman says "sorry, it's a boy" to a woman who has just given birth. She cringes in response and nobody is up in arms about this ad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPFduidJGjU

[–]verus_mas 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Haha, I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. Imagine the shitstorm if she said "sorry, it's a girl"

[–]Favrus 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I wish I could find it. But college football coach Lou Holtz was on the Tonight show once back in the late 80's. Johnny Carson asked Holtz about his children. Lou said "We have four. Two are boys, and two are not."

Everyone laughed and no one made a big deal out of it. He would have to hold a press conference apologizing if he said that today.

[–]swallowpls 5 points6 points  (0 children)

lol relax bro she meant sorry for using my cell phone during this momentous occasion in your life, your child is a boy.

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Came here to point this out.

There were a LOT of pro-father semi-pro-men sounding commercials this year.

It's as if the media folks got a whiff of these parts of the internet this year and have shifted ever so slightly.

[–]Diabolical_Nuke 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Really? I actually felt it was more a message of "Dads! We need dads! Where are all the men who step up?!"

But I could just be so used to male-bashing that I took it the wrong way...

[–]OKJaded 23 points24 points  (13 children)

Its like the male population has 400,000 years of biological evolution at throwing spears and chasing prey that has lead to advantages at throwing and running. Middle school biology should be enough to understand this.

Lets also remember all major sports are all separated by gender. Imagine if the next Olympics did away with the male/female split and women had to compete against men.

Anytime say "you ______ like a _______" its because you do. "You look like a crackhead", "You drive like and asshole", "You suck dick like a pro", "You cry like a bitch". If you don't like it nut up and change.

[–]avoiceoftreason 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lets also remember all major sports are all separated by gender. Imagine if the next Olympics did away with the male/female split and women had to compete against men.

Even sports like darts are separated because the women cannot reach the male standard.

[–]se7enpsychopaths 41 points42 points  (3 children)

I always found that ad infuriating because in my experience "like a girl" was always used to insult boys and men, not girls.

[–]waylandertheslayer 14 points15 points  (1 child)

To be fair, if you're dumb as a sack of rocks and two geniuses tell each other 'you're as dumb as /u/se7enpsyopaths ' you'd get pretty pissed.

But if you were short, and people said 'he's about as big as /u/se7enpsyopaths ' and you were to get offended, I'd laugh at you for being a pussy. I think this is what's happening, except no-one's calling women out on their bullshit. Surely the first thing women who are against phrases like that should do is get better at throwing? But no, let's complain on social media instead so we don't have to raise our bodies of 400lbs pure health off the sofa.

[–]xwhowhatwherex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's a thin line between him being offended and lighting a fire in his gut to improve himself. It's still the same burning shame inside. The only difference is what you do with it.

[–]fauxshoh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This never even crossed my mind. I can't remember any girl ever being told this, as it would be redundant to say "you throw like a class of people to which you belong!" Funny how they choose to invoke it.

[–]jquest23 36 points37 points  (9 children)

I made a comment to a fem leaning friend about the commercial you mentioned. I told her "sure they are the same. Lets prove it , I want to see another commercial of this type where a man and a woman toss off their boxing gloves and beat the sh!t out of each other bare handed. She was horrified, and said "that's terrible." I replied "they're exactly the same, whats the problem?"

[–]winndixie 13 points14 points  (5 children)

Oh because it sounds "not nice". Fuck logic, "omgerd, what you said sounds so meeean."

If women evolved to forego "niceness" to attempt to prove a point, they would be the ones fighting wars.

I recommend stop trying to prove logic to women. Impress them, talk with them, have sex with them.

[–]trpiece 12 points13 points  (3 children)

His mistake was arguing with a feminist. Even of he's right and logically correct, he still can't win.

[–]PaintAndPlastic 8 points9 points  (1 child)

He wins, she'll just never acknowledge it.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He alrrady won, he has penis privileg, she has penis envy.

[–]prettythread 15 points16 points  (4 children)

Check this shit out. "We're still annoyed at the recent study that found men throw better than women (we know puh-lenty of women who can out-throw men)." ACK.

[–]TestHaloAccount 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's some serious penis envy, with a healthy dose of hamster'ing, going on there.

[–]ilovemagicmush 4 points5 points  (1 child)

  1. WE SURVIVE CAR ACCIDENTS MORE OFTEN. This is sad but true: Men are 77 percent more likely to die in a car accident than women, according to a study done by Carnegie Mellon University. Our boyfriends should be thanking us when we nag them to "Wear your seatbelt!"

Cause it's easier to survive a car accident when hitting something in front of your car than getting hit from the side

[–]Newdist2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe men do 77 percent more driving.

[–]putsch80 50 points51 points  (16 children)

More importantly: why in the fuck is there a tampon commercial on during the Super Bowl? Seriously, as it stand now, the ratio of beer commercials to tampon commercials stands 1:1.

[–]1Mikesapien 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Because superbowl ad airtime costs $150k per second and I don't think NBC or the NFL give much of a fuck whose millions they're pocketing as long as the check clears.

[–]iamnotfromtexas90 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Don't forget katy perry. The entire half time show was made for women. It's a smart move by NFL corporate. There's half the population who for the most part isn't interested in their product. So they peddle girly shit at half time and team up with fem products for advertising. Just as GamerGate has demonstrated nothing is safe. Soon there will be no male only anything.

[–]fauxshoh 6 points7 points  (0 children)

True, it was a very savvy business decision, akin to reddit defaulting 2XC, and pinterest's recent concerted efforts to appeal to a male demographic.

Unfortunately the latter portion of your post seems more and more true every day.

[–]5 Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 21 points22 points  (2 children)

I guess the advertisers figure that's the one part of this event the women are actually watching.

[–]occupythekitchen 8 points9 points  (0 children)

probably so the guy goes out and buy their brand instead of the one she wanted when he goes out

[–]Entrefut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So true... the men don't need beer commercials, because most of us were already drunk off our ass.

[–]versilov22 2 points3 points  (7 children)

The share of woman fans is actually pretty large now.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (4 children)

More women give a shit about the NFL than I do, one would be more. Never got into it, if I can't participate I lose interest fast. I love to make passes down the dragstrip, watching on TV only makes me want to go racing. My favorite sport is 8nly a mild curiosity if I'm not actively involved.

[–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Never got into it, if I can't participate I lose interest fast.

Pretty much this, I can't stand watching most sports. Just show me the plays that were worth watching.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Basketball, tennis, golf, and Nascar are the absolutely most boring shit. Canadian curling is more fun to watch with its furious sweeping than any of thos, and I can feel IQ points dripping from my ears watching it. I live, eat, sleep and breathe cars with massive power, but watching racing is fucking mind numbing. I think watching sports appeals to the guys who can't, never did, or peaked in high school and like to think they could have made it. I actually race so watching is boring to me.

[–]through_a_ways 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think watching sports appeals to the guys who can't, never did, or peaked in high school and like to think they could have made it.

It's very telling that you always hear things like "we beat you" or "we won" from fans. It's a way to feel accomplishment without actually achieving anything.

I can (theoretically) get behind games of an international scale, since those actually have some significant reason to root for a side. But even then, most French footballers aren't ethnically French, being "American" is a more or less meaningless term, etc.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The most telling part is hardly anyone can remember anything about the games, unless there is some ultra fucked up call or something. That is the epitome of hollow victory, it's nowhere near an achievement. Achievements are things you remember.

[–]cocoguard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's money to be made when you have to keep rebuying them, imagine getting customer loyalty for ~50 years...

[–]mickydonavan417 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you gotta keep the women entertained between courses of snacks they serve.

[–]I_Hate_my_life_b0ss 39 points40 points  (9 children)

Yes, you run like a girl and throw like a girl. What other organism are we suppose to make fun of that is in our species? "You throw like a baby." Is that better?

[–]zenith828 39 points40 points  (4 children)

"Your ability in physically projecting objects is below average and yields less than favorable results when compared to your expected performance based equals."

I thinks that's what they expect us to say.

[–]fauxshoh 20 points21 points  (2 children)

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That dude is wearing lipstick.

[–]1Mikesapien 8 points9 points  (1 child)

That's ageist against babies. Check your privilege.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a privilege to be born earlier! When will people realize that blatantly obvious fact?

[–]pjewa 12 points13 points  (0 children)

We are told not to tell boys to act "like a man" but are somehow encouraged to redefine acting "like a girl."

[–]3 Endorsed ContributorF9R 9 points10 points  (0 children)

"Why can't run like a girl also mean win the race?"

Nobody's saying women shouldn't be allowed to set world records in running. They just don't because they physically can't.

[–]holzy444 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The phrase 'throw like a girl' has never been meant as an insult to girls. It is meant to emasculate boys who can't turn a double play.

[–]redpillthrower 7 points8 points  (0 children)

To paraphrase george carlin "women at the highest level dressing, talking and acting like men? Is that the best they can fucking come up with!?"

[–]iamnotfromtexas90 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I didn't see this post, so I made my own, but I'll repeat it here:

I'm sure you've stumbled upon this bullshit new 'hashtag' #likeagirl by big tampon company Always. (Their board of directors are for sure high-fiving each other that their consumer base (women) are so easliy controlled. They're doing the marketing for them for free!)

It's another bullshit self-congratulatory trend that women need to pat themselves on the back as usual. I can't help but see on social media that as usual women are explaining how this is also an issue for men. "Men can't let their emotions out because of this toxic environment because they would called out for acting like a girl. Men should show more emotion. Men should be softer. Women are strong too..."

The irony is that 99% of women would be CRUSHED if they were told they were anything like a man. Try telling a girl "You have manly shoulders," or "You have a masculine voice," "or you're strong like a man," or even "You run like a man." I guarantee they would take offense.

But logic is never an issue for feminist or most liberal ideologies. It's all about 'feelings' and "this makes me feel good."

[–]Fuck_shadow_bans 34 points35 points  (8 children)

To be honest, I'm all for it. Teach young girls to be more athletic, teach them to not give a fuck about the media, teach them to stop being whores, and they will grow up to be the kinds of women I want in my life. Everyone wins. It's basically what feminism could have been if it wasn't so focused on taking a shit on men.

[–]mickydonavan417 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'm with you there. I always liked the girls who played cops and robbers with the boys rather than trying to be the princess. Bonus points if she liked playing the bad guy.

[–]through_a_ways 2 points3 points  (1 child)

To be honest, I'm all for it. Teach young girls to be more athletic, teach them to not give a fuck about the media, teach them to stop being whores, and they will grow up to be the kinds of women I want in my life

Except it's not supposed to do that, it's supposed to be feel-good bullshit that gets women to spend money

[–]Fuck_shadow_bans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Supposed to" and "Is" are not the same thing. There are many different versions of "supposed to".

[–]RPReloaded 4 points5 points  (1 child)

But that's what feminism is. Without men to blame, feminism dies. It was never about empowering women to be better women, it has always been about how something something. hamster, hamster, it's men's fault.

[–]Fuck_shadow_bans 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I get that's what it is. But empowering women to own their own shit and to behave like adults is not a bad thing nor an impossible goal. It's what an actual equality movement would be focused on, because until women collectively hold themselves responsible for their own actions, they will never be equals.

[–]2 Mredpillschool 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Teach young girls to be more athletic, teach them to not give a fuck about the media, teach them to stop being whores

Becoming more athletic doesn't mean less whorish.

grow up to be the kinds of women I want in my life.

Like men?

[–]Fuck_shadow_bans 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Becoming more athletic doesn't mean less whorish.

True, but why can't I have both?

Like men?

In certain ways, yes. They way I expect another man to own up to his own shit and act like an adult? Absolutely.

[–]2 Mredpillschool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you're expecting women to become like men, you're going to have a bad time.

You'll get all the downsides (bitchier, ornery, pushy) and none of the upsides (responsibility).

[–]psycho-logical 14 points15 points  (4 children)

Trying to redefine "fight like a girl" is the worst one. It's a dangerous mentality for women to think they aren't at a disadvantage in combat. Girls will talk about "being able to take a guy" or give an anecdote about actually doing it and 90%+ of the time the guy didn't fight back at all or else she would have been obliterated. You can debate some differences between men and women, but biological ones like strength/muscle mass needs to stay in reality.

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    [–]BadFlankBrony 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    you are shit at self defense if you go around bragging about it.

    [–]Fuck_shadow_bans 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    Of course, then you find that one ghetto hood rat that throws punchs like a man and won't think twice about taking your head off with a shovel. I've seen WSHH. You can't fool me.

    [–]TheSKSpecial 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    That bitch can get wrecked too, there are plenty of WSHH fights where hoodrats try to swing at a man like a dude then fall out and cry as soon as they get hit back.

    [–]SarionFetecuse1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Enjoy your bread and games at the Colosseum as the visigoths are at your door.

    Did anyone really expect the superbowl to not have propaganda in their commercials?

    [–]M1s4n7hr0p3 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    This is not a new ad either. Plate showed this to me a few months back (she likes to play the "we can do anything men can do" card, I like shutting her down) and I shut her down telling her it wasn't relevant until you took the two kids and had them perform the tasks (legitimately, not notionally) in a side by side montage that would highlight the irrefutable disparity in physical performance. This ad is about feels, not facts.

    [–]Fuck_shadow_bans 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    Yeah the one girl definitely ran "like a girl".

    [–]namae_nanka 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    In fact even the veteran gender gap buster Janet Hyde accepted that the throwing gap is huuuuge. That best girls throw slower than the worst boys once puberty sets in.

    “The overhand throwing gap, beginning at 4 years of age, is three times the difference of any other motor task, and it just gets bigger across age. By 18, there’s hardly any overlap in the distribution: Nearly every boy by age 15 throws better than the best girl.”

    Title IX means that less boys play sports growing up and it's already coming to high school level.

    [–]Diabolical_Nuke 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    I couldn't stop laughing when they asked the girls to "Show us how you fight!" and it looked exactly how the guys "fought like a girl". So much for proving a point.

    [–]seddition 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    the fight like a girl segment should have shown them slandering the shit out of each other on twitter and facebook and spreading rumors about how the other girl is such a whore and fucks people's boyfriends behind their back, since that's pretty much how girls fight

    [–]fauxshoh 13 points14 points  (1 child)

    We need to fix the wage gap, and the biological strength gap (but men and women are totes equal in every facet!)

    How long will feminists try to deny palpable facts, such as male and female dimorphism? Men and women are not the same physically, biologically, or mentally.

    [–]LastRevision 14 points15 points  (2 children)

    As a substitute teacher I have worked as an elementary school physical education instructor. Our lesson was throwing, seriously. The boys seemed to want to get the technique down whereas the girls wanted to get it over with.

    Girls "throw like girls" because throwing isn't an interest for the vast majority of them.

    The only way that's going to change is that they are told they are just is good when they aren't, just like everything else feminism pushes.

    [–]SenorPuff[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    I'd love to see that substantiated, as it's in opposition to the article quoted that openly states, as quoted in my post:

    That suggests there's some kind of explanation in addition to nurture.

    [–]comefromaway2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Throwing like a girl is also known as having an immature throwing pattern. I think nurture plays in this one until testosterone takes over.

    [–]VarsitySlutTeamCpt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Then why arent girls in the MLB?

    [–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    It was a very difficult commercial ...

    ... because if you turned around right then and there and brought up to them the fact we are failing a lot of boys it would practically be considered against the law.

    This is the main issue - we actually have such campaigns for our girls. We don't have any where near the same for growing the confidence of our boys.

    [–]Ehcadroj 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    My favourite part of the commercial was when they asked males to demonstrate what running and fighting like a girl meant - then a mysogenistic stereotypical answer was given. And then, the girls actually ran like that. No female athletes were there to demonstrate correct running form, or anything.

    What could have been a true message about athleticism and women's fitness turned into a "women are recepticles for tampons" commercial.

    Always.

    [–]skeletorcares 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    That is how girls do things. Want to ask how a woman does it... I think that's the allegory they're looking to dismiss.

    Would still be ineffective but that's what they are looking for.

    [–]2Red_August 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    What made me chuckle is that they still ran and threw "like a girl" at the end.

    [–]1Dev_on 4 points5 points  (3 children)

    I was just curious why someone pad as much as they did for the ad space

    literally millions of dollars a minute just to tell us to let girls play ball too

    [–]Red_Pill_Observer 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    Yes, it would be interesting to see where the dollars are coming from.

    [–]1Dev_on 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    My only guess is because of all that elevator beating nonsense, that a lot of girls started watching superbowl. I don't want to speculate on why, but they have very smart people collecting a lot of metrics, and I'm willing to bet that this got girls eyes on the screens, so they throw tampon ads up that are femenist friendly, and scaring them into buying insurance, or their husband is a bad providor or some nonsense.

    personally, I almost never watch sports, if it gets killed and femenied, I'd be glad. If people were able to rattle off financial savvy information and political knowledge with the same ferver as random player stats, I think it would be a good thing.

    At the very least guys would leave their garage hideouts and go hang around other guys again

    [–]candyman420 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    It's very simple. For thousands of years men have had to throw things in order to survive, to propagate our species, while women cared for the family back home. They are not as evolved to be naturally good at certain skills.

    [–]2Red_August 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Superbowl commercials mostly a yawn-fest this year - all predictable. Lot's of play with blue-pill GenY confusion about their masculinity and role in society - at least three ads tapping them on the back and telling them that at least they're good little daddies and providers so keep working hard for your wife. Usual go-grrrl crap - we know who's spending the money in households (on useless shit) nowadays when even during the Super Bowl all the ads look like they've been approved by some soccer-mom committee.

    [–]sealteamaus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    sexist until proven guilty

    [–]asscapper 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    i'm currently watching the 'century of self', i couldn't help but notice a s similar thing happened in 20's. to promote smoking among women freud did a publicity stunt to link smoking to standing up to patriarchy and man and promote women freedom, and it worked amazingly. tried so search for the clip on youtube but couldn't find it, just found interesting so i had to share.

    [–]Daunderer 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    It was Freud's nephew, Edward Bernays - here's an interview of him talking about it.

    [–]asscapper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    yes sorry it was his cousin, fascinating interview by the way thanks for the link.

    [–]Stryker000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I loved the first person

    "show me what it looks like to run like a girl"

    girl with heels on starts running just like you would expect a girl to run with heels on

    And this is quite literally the definition of running like a girl, if she had RUNNING SHOES on, i would expect her to fulfil the definition of running and the 'like a girl' wouldn't be apparent.

    [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    "You throw like a girl" Supposed insult

    "Um... That's because I'm a girl." Girl not caring

    This is just like telling a boy that he's not pretty - which he would care absolutely nothing about.

    Remember, for gender ideologues - androgyny is the answer - gender dimorphism be damned.

    [–]MetalliMunk 6 points7 points  (11 children)

    Yes, let's promote female confidence by showing a commercial during an all-male promoted sport with no female referees. There's only place you will see a women in this sport: the scantily-clad anorexic cheerleaders.

    [–]flipster14191 2 points3 points  (10 children)

    Ayyy, don't forget Erin Andrews

    [–]SenorPuff[S] 4 points5 points  (9 children)

    She's good at her job, but her image was definitely helped by the nudes.

    [–]flipster14191 0 points1 point  (8 children)

    Woah. Had no idea. Game changer. Who walks around naked in a hotel room though? Like, I barely do that in the comforts of my own house

    [–]SenorPuff[S] 1 point2 points  (7 children)

    I take it you didn't wrestle in high school. Naked weigh-ins in front of cheerleaders will get you comfortable in your skin.

    [–]flipster14191 1 point2 points  (6 children)

    You took it wrong, I was just always significantly underweight. In the 83, 93, and 106 lb classes, depending on the year. I won more matches by forfeit than I actually wrestled.

    Wait, your wrestling team had cheerleaders?!!? Damn I'm jelly

    [–]Fuck_shadow_bans 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    Lolwhut? Our weight classes started at 103. What heresy is this?

    [–]flipster14191 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I guess 83 was middle school, but we started at 93 in high school, although it went up to 95 after winter break. We were a weird state

    [–]Fuck_shadow_bans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Apparently both of my school districts in CA and TN used MI's weight classes which are "non-standard".

    [–]SenorPuff[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Lucky bastard. I had to cut 30 pounds from my football weight every year.

    [–]Fuck_shadow_bans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    My junior and senior year I decide to just bulk up and wrestle in whatever category I ended up in. Buff me in the 215 class did way better than the starved as fuck me in the 171 class. Totally worth it. I got to eat whatever I wanted and never had to try and lose water weight.

    [–]Moldy_Gecko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    One of my schools had them too.

    [–]mitstifer 5 points6 points  (2 children)

    When this ad cam on, i got up and walked right out of my house. I literally could not sit there and watch that brainwashing filth.

    [–]Newdist2 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    You sound emotional.

    Like a girl.

    [–]cagethepepper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It's the nature v nurture debate to which in my opinion, nature always wins in these examples. Say this nowadays and you get bombarded with sexism claims.

    [–]boxofcookies101 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I don't understand how the "like a girl" is an insult to women. We all know that men and women are physically different. And that phrased is simply used to shame a guy and let him know that he's appearing weak/ is weak.

    How is a woman's self esteem affected by this phrase? Is she supposed to think that she's this weak person? Or will she recognize the physical gender gap?

    [–]s0und0fyell0w 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    how dare you. you are clearly a misogynist. didn't you see the commercial, men and woman are the same. a commercial on tv wouldn't lie to us man.

    [–]SILENTSAM69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    What I found really funny was that when they got their examples of girls run how they want they still ran like girls.

    [–]WardlyHasted 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    The reason Major League Baseball has no female pitchers is sexism.

    You damn well better believe that if there was a female pitcher who could throw 110 MPH with perfect accuracy she would be the highest paid player in the world and every team would be competing to sign her to a Major League contract. But nope, patriarchy is the reason there are no women in baseball.

    Using similar logic, you can disprove the existence of the "wage gap". You don't even need to cite the statistics that men work more hours on average, in more lucrative high-paying fields, work more jobs that require compensation for dangerous labour etc.

    It boils down to this -- corporations exist to make money and provide value to shareholders. Do you really think corporations would even bother hiring men if they could pay women $0.77 for every $1.00 a male would make? Corporations would make approximately 29.87% more profit if they only hired women, assuming the "wage gap" is a real thing.

    [–]Cashman124 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I can at least understand the confidence part of the message, but the message says to me that you shouldn't do the girly like things. It's wrong empowerment, and feminist types will eat this shit up like a disease.

    [–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I don't fucking get it. My friends and I were watching this, and everyone got quiet during the commercial.

    Then, at the end, it suddenly flashes "Always", and we lose our shit laughing. It was almost parodical. If I were a feminist, I'd be insulted, haha

    [–]mytrpaway 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    The throwing gap has been researched for more than half a century, and the results have been consistent. According to Jerry Thomas, dean of the College of Education at the University of North Texas in Denton, who did the throwing research Hyde cites in her paper, “The overhand throwing gap, beginning at 4 years of age, is three times the difference of any other motor task, and it just gets bigger across age. By 18, there’s hardly any overlap in the distribution: Nearly every boy by age 15 throws better than the best girl.”

    ...

    To try to distinguish nature from nurture, Thomas studied aboriginal Australian children, who grow up in a culture where both men and women hunt, and both sexes throw from childhood. “Our hypothesis was that [the aboriginal] girls would be better throwers and not as different from the boys as in European, Chinese, Australian and all the U.S. cultures.”

    The data bore him out. Aboriginal girls threw tennis balls at 78.3 percent of the velocity of boys — closer to boys than in most other cultures, but still significantly slower. (Throwing distance wasn’t measured.)

    Throw like a girl? With some practice, you can do better

    [–]SenorPuff[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    He goes on to hypothesize that it's an evolutionary trait, that men throw better because they had to, and women default to a throwing motion that makes sense, if you're holding a baby next to your torso. And he presumes that it's a neurological difference, since it still exists prepuberty.

    [–]cooltrip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Also, military. Oh, and bike races. Oh, and Olympics. Oh, and science Nobels. Oh...

    [–]gt35r 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    As soon as I saw the commercial I thought to myself "this is going to be great to read about on TRP in the morning" lol. And I was right, even my dad and his wife both sitting next to me said, "are you fucking serious?"

    [–]cashmoney_x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    What these women need to understand is that you do x like a girlwhen said between men is NOT because men think women are bad or whatever. It`s simply a way of saying you do x like the opposite gender. It's THAT which is insulting, and BTW, THEY GET INSULTED BEING COMPARED TO MEN ALSO (as stated in the op).

    No one wants to be like the opposite gender.

    [–]PlanB_pedofile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    God what a fucking waste of ad $$

    I wonder what this shit will accomplish?