all 161 comments

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (3 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Remember Cypher? I feel like him sometimes, I gotta be honest. Redpill thought has helped my relationships, but at what cost? I wish I could go back to respecting women, sometimes. I don't think I can see girls as anything more than whores anymore.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Cypher stood to benefit by getting to be someone important in exchange for being a traitor. There's no bliss with being ignorant of red pill truth.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Awesome response.

Thank you.

[–]enticingasthatmaybe[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

You can't go back. It's either profit or perish, and yeah that does kinda suck at first.

[–]Endorsed Contributorwhiskey_bearfist 63 points64 points  (4 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Mainly to redirect drama back to a climate that I’m comfortable with, everyone shaming me.

love it.

i used to be very wary and made efforts to avoid this situation. now its a warm comfortable zone. all these girls talk shit and fake outrage with smiling faces, meanwhile i just laugh in their faces and catch disapproval from nerds.

[–]enticingasthatmaybe[S] 42 points43 points  (0 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I've learned to bask in the warm glow of collective female shame. It's like them lining up in a whorehouse; I get to pick the one I want.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

If they aren't angry at you, they don't like you in the first place.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

all these girls talk shit and fake outrage with smiling faces, meanwhile i just laugh in their faces and catch disapproval from nerds.

Now, nerds are the ridiculed equally by both women and men. And feminist are starting special interest groups and initiatives for protecting women in field of IT. Even the mighty Linus Torvalds gets the short end of stick... And we talk TRP here... Hmm... what a world.

[–]magicalbird 7 points8 points  (0 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

If she is starting to shame you on something that means she is thinking of you and your actions meaning she wants the D

[–][deleted] 132 points133 points  (33 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

When you can read this going ''Yeah, well, that's all understandable for women'' then you are truly rp.

I can't believe this shit. No honor. No fairness. No sincerity. And most importantly - no shame.

[–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (29 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

When I read the field reports, I'm at that point where you can see the punch line coming, but keep saying to yourself "no no No No No, god damnit." Like when driving and seeing an accident unfold right in front of you.

Funny how 6 months in and I'm still having the glimmer of hope that the cock riding party might not be true for more than just the rare girl out there.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (6 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I'm still having the glimmer of hope that the cock riding party might not be true for more than just the rare girl out there.

It's best to give that up. I've dated one of the sweetest girls I've ever met and it was still par for the course. Thankfully, I already knew what to expect.

[–]phallic_audio 13 points14 points  (4 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

How do you fight the urge to not call her out on the b.s. when she starts acting all innocent and sweet? I find myself getting light weight insulted if they try to do the "I'm so pure and sweet" act with me.

Its not so much that they rode the carousel but the fact that they assume that I am that stupid.

[–]Fred_Flintstone 10 points11 points  (2 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Man, this really pisses me off too.

The other night I had dinner with an ex-FWB who was trying to convince me she hasn't had sex in 8 months, only has sex in relationships now, etc etc. I didn't ask her for this and didn't want to hear her, i was just seeing her as we are actually somewhat friends and she is in my social group.

I started off with "Yeah, whatever you say" then switch subjects, but she kept bringing it up, then when she kept bringing it up more I made it "Stop talking about this I don't care", then I eventually ended dinner and drinks early. Something about people continuously lieing to my face really pisses me off. Even if I frame her as a child in my head I would be disciplining the child for lies, and this was not the occasion.

[–]phallic_audio 3 points4 points  (0 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Its annoying because I think it reflects the lack of respect they have in people in general and they're just completely oblivious about it.

If they really think I would be that stupid, then I think its a how they relate with other humans issue rather than a gender issue.

No wonder they are incapable of camaraderie.

Edit: the kicker is regardless of the reason you're not allowed to show any signs of distress. Because if you do, its because you're jealous. Top kek.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

How do you fight the urge to not call her out on the b.s. when she starts acting all innocent and sweet?

Who said I didn't? Not in an angry way, just in a matter-of-fact way.

"I'm so pure and sweet"

Me: "Oh, is that why [insert some shit she did in her past]"

they assume that I am that stupid

They lie and trickle truth to save face. If you show them RP-like knowledge (basically explain the hamster feelz they have) in a less confrontational and non-judgmental way, they'll appreciate you for "understanding them". Knowing that you understand them at that level will make them respect you more, but its no guarantee that they won't swing over to another branch at a moment's notice.

These are the things you have to think about when dating most modern western women. You can deal with it or just spin plates.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (16 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I lost the need to have women conform to the ideals I held of them. But reading this shit is still a shock. I am in nofap 7 days and I see that truly all I want is to fuck a bitch. Fuck her and avenge the years that I lived in bluepill land. I don't need love. I believe it can be achieved, yes, but I don't need it.

Ballz deep. Dominant. My Pride and Mission over everything. Today I should drag myself out and make few approaches. I don't want to. Friends bailed (fucking their girlfriends). The Man I want to be is calling me out. Calling me out to walk the talk.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Friends bailed

That's even better. Don't rely on them.

[–]thebigspooner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Motivational.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

do it.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

I did it ;).

3 approaches, well received. Ejected because of awkward silence. My frame was ''I am a child exploring'' when it should have been ''I am the shit here, and you want my dick badly.''

It is not me who gets rejected, it's the behavior I identify myself with. I welcome life and death with equal hospitality. I am nothing and no one. I seek to be destroyed and reborn.

This helped to subdue my enormous ego rationalizing me into not going out. Ego wants to prove a point. I want to achieve a goal.

Your turn ;)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

yea day 7-14 are some intense upper moments with nofap for sure. It's a challenge to try to define yourself new goals, when you're already unsure if it's the way you're "supposed to go in life."

The simple answer is that goals make life worth living. But the paralysis that you experience when you're trying to figure out exactly which goals you want to go after is what can be killer.

Seems to be a problem of this generation, at least for the middle class white dude who can cruise through with a simple job and simple dreams. Keep asking myself "do you want to be remembered after you die, or be a part of the backdrop of society."

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

But the paralysis that you experience when you're trying to figure out exactly which goals you want to go after is what can be killer.

I can correlate. I'm 24 y/o and this is the stage in life when you make decisions that shape a major part of your future (if on college like me). I'm in a good position but keep asking myself - is this what I really want or am I after the money and security of the position granted to me after I finish education?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

Same, almost 24 (weird to say that), but I'm just going to go after getting fit with financial and mental security first before I get back to the questioning game of what's right. Found that I sometimes put myself into that "I don't know what I want to do" mentality because it's an escape from having to make the hard choices.

[–][deleted]  (4 children)

sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

[deleted]

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

    It's good, I don't see the benefit in lying to myself which fap actually is. My brain will get the rush when it earns it. Not by googling shit. I didn't start it over the alleged benefits, I started it because it makes sense, because it's natural not to get those feels unless I deserve them.

    [–][deleted]  (2 children)

    sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

    [deleted]

      [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

      Focus on the uselessness of it and the way it depletes your will to act to destroy ineffective behavior. Ask yourself - Does the ideal version of myself fapps his life and will away? FUCK no. He does what he can, the best he can. Whatever the results, He learns, He gets better.

      Fapping is like conditioning yourself to be average loser. We are going to die. We are going to be destroyed completely and utterly. There is only so much time to express your true self, get on it. Now.

      [–]Nitzi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

      I tell my mates: I will go, I don't care what you do.

      From what you said I think you are a blue piller with RP knowledge.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

      Could be. I accept it and see it work. But it has to sink into my subconscious, become automatic.

      But, I went out alone, felt awesome to be self reliant. It was my second time out by myself. Long road ahead.

      [–]mister_zd 7 points8 points  (4 children)

      sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

      Funny how 6 months in and I'm still having the glimmer of hope that the cock riding party might not be true for more than just the rare girl out there.

      I cry myself to sleep with that knowledge... Its like, my hopes and dreams to find my dream woman are being slaughtered.

      [–]1PaulRivers10 31 points32 points  (1 child)

      sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

      To be fair here, I don't know that you're going to find your "dream woman", but the "cock riding party" is a little bit a result of a bad dataset.

      If 50% of women are not loyal to their boyfriends, that's all you hear about here. There's really no way to know if the other 50% aren't screwing and stuff like this.

      I treat it like I treat guys, the difference is mostly that I don't care as much with guys and I haven't been as brainwashed with guys to feel like I need to believe them. I know guys that I never trust, I know guys that I trust as long as their self interests don't conflict with mine, and I know guys who I trust nearly completely.

      It's the same with girls. All you're hearing is the jackass stories.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

      yea hopefully you'll get past that stage and through to the other side where you really begin to take hold of what you believe and want to achieve.

      [–]phallic_audio -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

      sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

      Its ok bro. You'll get over it and will start to see women as your true equal... but you gotta ride the vagine train first.

      Edit: seriously downvotes? So equality is not the point? They can act on our level all they want but they have to realize they have a slightly different set of consequences than us. You rp newfags need to lurk moar.

      [–][deleted]  (2 children)

      sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

      [deleted]

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Damn dude, now you just sound like the cliche bitter RPer that we are claimed to be.

        [–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Not darkness. Femaleness. It's perfectly normal for them.

        [–]sniperhiding 25 points26 points  (20 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Any thoughts on saving him from a huge mistake by telling him the truth?

        [–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 41 points42 points  (14 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        The truth cannot be brought to him.

        He must come looking for it.

        [–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (13 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        The universal truth of things - Yes

        If it were me though I'd tell him in a heartbeat.

        Blue pill pains lead to red pill gains.

        [–]enticingasthatmaybe[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        If it were me though I'd tell him in a heartbeat.

        Why? He wouldn't believe you anyway.

        [–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 27 points28 points  (8 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        If it were me though I'd tell him in a heartbeat.

        He wouldn't believe you. Remember, this guy is engaged - he still buys into the whole one man-one woman true love dynamic.

        It takes pain to really drive home a lesson. That means finding out about her infidelity on his own.

        If my mission were to wake this guy up, I'd continue fucking his woman. I'd keep it on the down low so she felt secure banging me on the side, and I'd just let enough details slip that our affair leaked through to him. Once he found out, I'd disappear.

        [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (7 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Well he could believe me or not, but at least I'd sow some doubt and my conscience would be clear.

        It it were me, I'd feel complicit in the lie by not raising it. Cant blame her for lying, she's a woman, but i can sure as shit blame myself for knowingly letting a friend fall prey to that lie. And for all the lies that would follow.

        Personal preference i guess. But i do like your option of keeping on banging her then letting it slip, it's a thermonuclear option but its good.

        [–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Who said anything about this guy being a friend? The OP met this guy on meetup.com. That makes him a casual acquaintance at best.

        Now, if this guy were my friend, I wouldn't sleep with his girl just to teach him a lesson. Bros before hos, ALWAYS. He'd still have to learn the lesson by experiencing his girl's infidelity, but I would not break his trust by being the one to do it.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Good point i think I've read more into it than i should have. If he's nothing more than a casual acquaintance yeah fuck him.

        [–]enticingasthatmaybe[S] -5 points-4 points  (4 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        It it were me

        Since you give fucks about your conscience you wouldn't have been chosen for discreet sex to start with. So you're likely in the clear there.

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Hows that Code Tan working out for you?

        [–]enticingasthatmaybe[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Just trying to help

        Edit: you're right. I should have chosen different language, but women choose their sexual partners based on a lot of criterion. It's very likely that she chose me because she observed that I'm not honor or conscience bound and that I pretty much always do what's best for me.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        No offence taken bro.

        I guess my understanding has been that to be Alpha isnt to function without a moral code, but to function by your own moral code not one forced upon you.

        To act without one has always been something i associated with Sigmas. But between the two, in reality either way works.

        [–]thebigspooner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        I'm not honor or conscience bound and that I pretty much always do what's best for me.

        That is his own code.

        [–]Haraklus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        I like the idea of my competition being mostly blue pill. OTOH, with enough redpill guys in the world, men could potentially reinstitute patriarchy and we could reverse a great deal of social decline. It's mixed.

        [–]drrtyfrrnr 5 points6 points  (3 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Nothing to be gained from this.

        [–]sniperhiding 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Disagree. If I'm op, I personally gain nothing, but my friend does. I would tell the friend. It's up to him what to do with the harsh truth.

        [–]drrtyfrrnr 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        That guy was a stranger, not a friend. Although I'd probably say that to a friend if we were close enough. If not, no need to drag myself into other people's business.

        [–]1PaulRivers10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Yeah - there's a difference between telling a friend, and telling a stranger.

        I've seen it where the guy isn't doing anything wrong, but I've also seen a lot of times where the guy is fucking around on the side to. I don't want to try to make a judgement call on what's happening with people I don't know.

        [–]enclosed10 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        I would tell him. It would save him a lot of time and trouble to find out his fiance is a lying bitch before they got married.

        [–]FuriousMouse 37 points38 points  (5 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Lipstick, high heels, stockings, makeup, nail polish, silicone implants, looking young and healthy, short skirts, virginity.

        It is all a part of the same package to increase their sexual market value.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorpuaSenator 13 points14 points  (4 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Some TRP guys get upset by this. Personally, I don't. They are just playing the game. Women know what's up and are getting the best out of life they can. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah, they are being manipulative, but that shit only works on betas anyways, so cest las vise.

        [–]ahrepna6 51 points52 points  (1 child)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        cest las vise

        You just gave me cancer.

        [–]j0hnan0n 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Isn't it c'est la vie? Pretty sure...

        [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (1 child)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        cest las vise

        wtf

        [–]LasherDeviance 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        He tried ...

        [–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 52 points53 points  (7 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        LMFAO AT THE SUBJECT LINE!!!

        Saving that non-existent virginity!!! SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEET.

        Edit:

        So basically OP fucked this girl 3 times without trying (alpha), shes hooked in a beta now and sold beta boy the BS that the reason she ain't fucking him is cuz shes a virgin waiting for marriage. Unless this bitch is planning on hymen reconstruction surgery she wont bleed when he finally does get around to fucking her so she'll bullshit him that not all virgins bleed and cuz hes a beta that's in love he'll eat up her bullshit.

        Here's the thing, she wants the beta boy for resources/emotional validation.. but notice how she has absolutely no sexual attraction to him AT ALL. She doesn't even want to fuck beta boy, she's holding it off by lying about being a virgin, if he had sexual power over her she wouldn't even be able to resist (you can see the chemicals swim in their eyes muhfucka!) she would be straight jumping his fucking pants if he could get her moist.

        Alpha fucks beta bucks... as you can see my men, bitches do not have even a shred of respect for betas, they're just to be used for money and fucking dopamine/serotonin hits.

        And no, I was not surprised one fucking bit by anything I read in this article... to me it sounded like fucking textbook bitch deception.

        [–]alt30313 19 points20 points  (4 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        She broke her hymen ridding horses, riding her bike as a child, in a bike accident, with a sex toy masturbating in middle school (horrible accident) ....

        She'll lie and say she's never had the dick. He'll want to believe her and never be wise to the truth.

        [–]ready_uphill 19 points20 points  (2 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Well, OP never said he broke her hymen. It truly is possible for a virgin not to have one.

        Then again... maybe she fucked someone else, before even getting with him? Dun dun dun...

        [–]alt30313 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        You are correct OP never said he broke her hymen. I was referring to real life examples with my first line: ways girls I know lost there hymens. There are a myriad of possibilities or explanations for missing hymen. The girl OP fucked could drop one of those examples or make something else up and after she gets married.

        "Then again... maybe she fucked someone else, before even getting with him?" The old three time virgin trick. Yeah I have heard examples of both sexes masquerading as virgins for different reasons.

        [–]mudra311 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        If he knew anything, it's never completely gone and sex is still painful for virgins.

        [–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Lmaaaaaaaaaao those excuses are pathetic (but you aint wrong)

        [–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEET.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1dnqKGuezo

        [–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Haha this is the guy.

        [–]drrtyfrrnr 13 points14 points  (12 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        In a way, she is still bound to be a better wife than someone who loved another man, a man who she could never quite conquer, a man that got away. And it seems she knew that, and that's why she refrained from anything but sex with OP.

        She is still better than an alpha widow.

        [–]enticingasthatmaybe[S] 8 points9 points  (11 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        She is a good person and will make a good wife. What this guy doesn't know isn't going to hurt him in the long run.

        [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (8 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Because someone who is prepared to lie about this is obviously not hiding anything else in her past...

        [–]enticingasthatmaybe[S] 5 points6 points  (7 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        You are a fool if you expect full disclosure from anyone you get close to, man or woman.

        [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (3 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Full disclosure is a LONG way from outright lie.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        i hear you, but this lie is tied into her identity of 'the good christian girl', which is probably how she and her new beau connected over. it's not just about whether or not she has had sex before, it's about whether or not she can qualify herself as valid wife material. can't expect her to pull that one out after getting in too deep. it's what he wants, give it to him.

        [–]enticingasthatmaybe[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        It's likely that the question was never objectively asked and she just left him to his own assumptions. Women are far more advanced than we are at subtle communication.

        [–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        If she's telling him she's keeping her virginity for marriage when she doesn't have virginity to give its an outright proactive fraud.

        [–]lono12 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Why so serious? For someone so redpill you're being awfully white knighty

        [–]enticingasthatmaybe[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Meh, she did what women do.

        [–]lono12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        She lied. A huge life changing lie. That's no more excusable than rape or violence is because that's 'what men do'

        [–]ready_uphill 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        She is a good person

        I don't know her but... yeah I'm gonna have to disagree.

        [–]Petrarch1603 10 points11 points  (1 child)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        If you get her pregnant after the marriage that kid will really be an ignorant bastard.

        [–]enticingasthatmaybe[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        But, like my douchebag alpha biological father, he would slay ass like it was his job.

        [–]FullTime32 6 points7 points  (5 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        I wouldn't be in this situation, but If something ass backwards happened and I was I would want to be told. You prolly did the right thing by not saying anything cuz you dont know him, but I would want to be told. I am sure if he found out he would prolly still stay with her.

        [–]luxury_banana -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        I would tell the guy on the basis that he's a supremely naive religious dupe who's been indoctrinated to believe things that just aren't true.

        [–]pitlord713 10 points11 points  (3 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Wrong subreddit

        [–]luxury_banana 3 points4 points  (2 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Unless the OP is trying to fuck her, it's really not. The whole purpose of this subreddit is to remove the veil of bullshit that we're indoctrinated to believe about relations between the sexes. Helping this guy out would possibly be doing just that.

        [–]pitlord713 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Yes but your comment was so typical neckbeard atheist I just can't take it seriously

        [–]luxury_banana -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        I was more talking about Christian sexual mores than anything else. It should be obvious in the context. Those don't apply and haven't for generations now.

        [–]Truggles 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        I wonder what face the mouse girl made when her fiancé told you she was waiting for marriage

        [–]dub121686 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        It always amuses me the lengths and lies people will go through to deceive people about who they really are (women mostly) Nice FR.

        [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (26 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Damn. I figured the church girls were actually virgins. I guess it's safe to assume they aren't now.

        [–]Helmut_Newton 25 points26 points  (7 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        I remember reading somewhere that Catholic girls still consider themselves "virgins" if they only do BJ's and anal...

        [–]porcellus_ultor 18 points19 points  (1 child)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Maybe it was a Catholic thing a few decades ago, but it's much more of a Protestant thing now. Especially with Evangelicals. They're generally the ones pushing the Purity Ball/Abstinence Only culture, and as a result the kids are far more likely to saddleback.

        [–]Helmut_Newton 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Yeah, that makes sense for the evangelicals...

        [–]masturbateawy 15 points16 points  (1 child)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        Someone made a parody of this in a song it is called fuck me in the ass because I love Jesus.

        [–]ArchangelleFuckOff 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8ZF_R_j0OY

        It's musically a pretty terrible song, but it does say that yes.

        [–][deleted]  (1 child)

        sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

        [deleted]

          [–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

          same for most of the religious girls. They say "Stay moral go oral."

          [–]-Fony- 26 points27 points  (0 children)

          sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

          rofl, most girls who lose it early go to church. that has been a myth for ages, because they are busy getting popped by the ushers, drummers, pastor's sons, etc. while their mom chases after the pastor.

          my first girlfriend and the one who i first had sex with was a friend form church, we were 14.

          [–]Smaugma 19 points20 points  (9 children)

          sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

          Korean guys have their Vietnamese virgin brides-to-be tested for virginity before sealing the deal. I used to think that was a bit over the top. Not anymore.

          Edit: Yes, I'm aware that it's not a 100% reliable test. Tell them, not me. And no, I don't necessarily endorse it, it just make sense in that context.

          [–]reedrichardsstretch 9 points10 points  (7 children)

          sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

          Sorry to burst your bubble, but there is no reliable test for virginity. They hymen can be broken by many events, not just penile penetration.

          [–]Smaugma 20 points21 points  (3 children)

          sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

          Let's put it this way: if Woman 1 has an intact hymen and Woman 2 doesn't, all other things being equal, a betting man who wants a virgin would go for Woman 1.

          Again, I'm not endorsing this. I just think that's the line of thinking that a guy who cares about this stuff would follow.

          [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

          sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

          A betting man should keep his money in his pocket, since the one with the "hymen" could have gotten stitched up (and, in this scenario, had financial incentive to do so).

          [–]Smaugma 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

          In the case of the Korean men seeking brides abroad, I'm assuming the rationale is that it's unlikely that a 18-year-old Vietnamese girl from some village would have her hymen reconstructed. It's a big deal even in Britain among Westernized British Asians. (Archived page for backup), I can only imagine how big of a deal must be in Asia proper. Not to mention in some Islamic countries where women could literally risk their lives.

          [–]reedrichardsstretch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

          I agree, I'm just saying it's not fool-proof, but still the best/only option.

          [–][deleted]  (1 child)

          sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

          [deleted]

            [–]icallmyselfmonster 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            I don't ever want another virgin, it can be draining. Especially the ones over 22.

            [–]curiousthis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            Hymen reconstruction surgery is a big business in India.

            [–]enticingasthatmaybe[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            It honestly never crossed my mind at the time, but she may very well have been one before our interaction.

            [–]mister_zd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            1 word: anal

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            Yea I'm kinda disappointed, figured they were maybe a last glimmer of hope for marriage, like when I'm 40 if I wanna marry go down south and find me a nice young church girl, but nope women are women

            [–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            I figured the church girls were actually virgins.

            In my experience, church girls are the most dirty-minded and experimental of all girls.

            Religion specializes in both squashing notions of promiscuity and in breeding obedience. If you handle your seduction correctly, a religious girl will often do anything you command her to, and she'll do it with a level of curiosity and covert enthusiasm that might surprise you.

            [–]19 Endorsed Contributordrrrrrr 14 points15 points  (1 child)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            Lotta comments about how this makes you "jaded on how you look at women" or "lost respect for women" or "I don't think I can find a real woman".

            No. These ARE real women. They are what they are. Embrace reality - girls fuck, guys fuck, we all fuck. Stop hating women for not having masculine traits - It is the SAME as feminists who hate men for not having feminine traits.

            Don't expect women to value honor, justice, meaning what they say, etc. They aren't Scarface, they don't have balls and they don't - they can't - understand the concept of "I would die before I break my word." They are not concerned with literal truth, but figurative / subjective "truth".

            Women are like this for a reason. You wouldn't like them if they were men with ladyparts. Femininity is rationalizing, it is alpha fucks beta bucks, it is the complete submission of whatever morals / virtues she believes she has to her need to get filled by the right guy.

            The fact that women are like this is what allows us all to fuck. If women were logical and rational, sex would go back to being this stupid courtship process where the guy has to show that he can trade resources and commitment for sex. But because girls do not THINK when turned on and instead submit to their biological needs, there is always going to be clubs full of hotties ready to fuck on the same night.

            Hate it or love it, women are what they are. Don't be that guy who is searching for a girl that doesn't exist - learn to love women in all of their rationalizing, feminine glory. Just don't be the guy who subsidizes their nature by marrying them, paying for shit, or giving away emotional security / commitment before sex.

            [–]CptDefB 16 points17 points  (16 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            I know I shouldn't be surprised, but I swear… Seeing women in their primal state is almost enough to put me completely off of them. Almost.

            Fairly new to TRP... still in this state. Don't even know what to do about it. The resolution is simply, "No fucks shall be given.", but even still. Learning more and more about their natures (and mine), I don't know how I had so many fucks to give previously.

            Almost enough to put me completely off them.

            Almost.

            [–]mister_zd 15 points16 points  (2 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            The only reason I am not put off completely yet is that I much prefer the female anatomy.

            [–]ButterMyBiscuit 8 points9 points  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            I've found myself wishing I was gay multiple times in the past few months, haha.

            [–]CptDefB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            You and me both. :/

            [–]Party_Liquor 20 points21 points  (6 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            I know exactly what you mean. I think of women as spiders.

            Many people are irrationally afraid of spiders, although only a few spiders are actually dangerous. Some spiders are quite beautiful (in their own way) and are miraculous works of nature. Most spiders are extremely delicate/fragile and can easily be squished.

            But all spiders have one thing in common. They all ruthlessly hunt their prey and once caught, suck the life out of it leaving only an empty, dried-out husk behind...before moving on to other prey.

            [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            But all spiders have one thing in common. They all ruthlessly hunt their prey and once caught, suck the life out of it leaving only an empty, dried-out husk behind...before moving on to other prey.

            Biological inaccuracies aside, this isn't the right way to think of it. Although there are terrible people of both genders in the world, most women don't set out to destroy men.

            The way I see it, many women view their love lives (and sometimes their lives in general) as if it is being written by someone else, with them as the protagonist. And the less in control you feel of critical aspects in your life, the more you become enraged that others are preventing your from feeling fulfilled.

            They desire to be part of a compelling narrative, but want everyone else, all those supporting characters, to neatly fall into their roles in the plot. Any deviation from that narrative by their boyfriends or husbands is bothersome and requires correction, sometimes by recasting the male lead, until the story just feels right again.

            [–]1PaulRivers10 10 points11 points  (4 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            I think this goes WAY to far.

            I think of women as Angels. But the trick is, your brain wants to think of them like "angel and holy and never do anything wrong" - but in reality they're more like the Angels on tv shows like Supernatural.

            Way more full of themselves than they should be, especially if they're beautiful (powerful). Having an attitude of superiority, but not really understanding how things work or having the power to get done what they want done. Looking for a figure to follow but not finding it. Etc.

            Some of them will suck the life out of you and leave behind a dried out husk, but most of them are just lost and looking for someone in charge to follow to get back to their imagine Nirvana where everything is good again.

            [–]Party_Liquor 14 points15 points  (3 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            Fair enough. I am a little further toward the bitter/cynical end of the TRP spectrum, probably leaning closer to MGTOW than TRP, but I respect your perspective.

            [–]Spidertech500 4 points5 points  (1 child)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            Mgtow?

            [–]Party_Liquor 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            Men Go Their Own Way. It's pretty much leaving women behind altogether.

            [–]1PaulRivers10 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            Fair enough. I am a little further toward the bitter/cynical end of the TRP spectrum, probably leaning closer to MGTOW than TRP, but I respect your perspective.

            ha, I can appreciate that. There's a small side of me that attracts that kind of women and brings out in other women. I can understand where you're coming from.

            [–]FuriousMouse 21 points22 points  (5 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            Look at it this way: Women (and men) developed their complex social interactions and emotional responses around 60-200.000 years ago. Competition was fierce and the behavior you see today is what people needed to do then in order to put their genes forward into the next generation.

            You cannot blame women for their behavior, they don't do it rationally nor because they are "evil", this is simply what their ancestral mothers needed to do.

            [–]mister_zd 18 points19 points  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            True, however, this sort of maladaptive behavior is harming civilization in modern times.

            [–]CptDefB 13 points14 points  (1 child)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            You cannot blame women for their behavior, they don't do it rationally nor because they are "evil", this is simply what their ancestral mothers needed to do.

            I disagree.

            Here we are, coming to terms with realities of human nature and making conscious decisions to change our actions to achieve desired results based on said realities.

            Equal rights, right?

            So they should be held to task for their actions just the same. The same way monogamy goes against human nature and yet people can come together with mutual expectations of each other is the same way men and women should look at what's up, what's happened, and how to do better. We are doing our part.

            "You cannot blame women for their behavior..." ... no, no, no, and no.

            No more free passes.

            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            You cannot blame women for their behavior,

            I initially read it as "You can't be upset at women".

            [–]Gstreetshit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            SO MUCH THIS. Feminist don't seem to understand that we progress socially a LOT faster than we do biologically. The cues used today for attraction and the like are ingrained in us. To deny them is to deny ones self-hood.

            [–]j0hnan0n 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            This is what successfully reproductive females did with successfully reproductive males. AFBB all the way back, baby. Get them good genes, then lock down a provider (more likely a series of providers cuz...death)

            [–]lifesbrink 3 points4 points  (4 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            What were these meetups for?

            [–]enticingasthatmaybe[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            To get out and meet people.

            [–]lifesbrink 2 points3 points  (2 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            They are just meetups for meeting people? Weird. I am used to meetup being used for different subject matters, to link people together with common interests.

            [–]enticingasthatmaybe[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            It's that too, but there are specific social groups. Singles groups are a big thing.

            [–]lifesbrink 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            I never knew. Guess I will have to look into it!

            [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            Did you tell him? Tell me you had the decency to let the poor bastard know.

            [–]icallmyselfmonster 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            No lie; to this day she is still the least amount of effort I’ve had to use to get a thin girl into bed.

            Testify!

            [–]∞ Red Pill VisionaryRollo-Tomassi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            [–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 11 points12 points  (4 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            Good job keeping it on the down-low.

            If you play your cards right, you may be able to slip in as a post-wedding sex provider. Women appreciate a guy who can keep their secrets - it's all part of the game.

            [–]Endorsed Contributorwhiskey_bearfist 13 points14 points  (0 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            "friend of the family" game

            [–]LouisWinthorpIII 1 point2 points  (2 children)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            Exactly. This guy isn't OP's friend. That would be completely different. As Omar Little would say: "It's all in tha' game baby."

            [–][deleted]  (1 child)

            sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

            [deleted]

              [–]LouisWinthorpIII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

              I never said it was a good idea. lol Just within guy code regulations.

              [–]torn_paper_heart 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

              Ha ha, lol. Just be glad that you are on this side of the lie. Poor guy.

              What meetup groups/themes are best for you? I do a photography/models meetup, and it's ok. But there's a majority of ugly/fat chicks who use the group to pretend to be models :oP

              [–]TheeRyanGrey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

              "Mainly to redirect drama back to a climate that I’m comfortable with, everyone shaming me."

              my nigga. i rarely do this but i'm going to upvote you. i wish i could do it twice.

              i love being the nigga people love to hate and try and shame. center of attention is where i shine.

              [–]Nitzi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

              I would never wait even a week. Mainly to redirect drama back to a climate that I’m comfortable with, everyone shaming me.

              They shame you, for being honest. The girl wants to wait, lets say 2 weeks, and you tell her no, then the girl filters you out because you can't wait 2 weeks for her. Everything went as planned. You could also throw aside your moral and wait 2 weeks just to fuck her and run away. Then she would be unhappy and nothing went nice.

              [–]IM_PRETTY_RACIST 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

              Sometimes I wish I was queer.

              [–]masterrod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

              We aren't so good either.

              For me i don't know how I would broach that subject with anyone that believed i was pias enough not to have sex before marriage. It would be like destroying your entire image of yourself.

              It wouldn't' make me overgeneralize though, people are just like that. They try to maintain an image till the can't any longer.

              [–]PlanB_pedofile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

              Reading this makes me wish I wasn't so blue-pill in my highschool days around church-mouse girl....

              Nothing fires up my labido more than the church mouse woman. Alas I was too beta to seal any deal and kept instead dating/banging flakes and skanks.

              I will say this.... the churchmouse can be an excellent redpill woman... Traditional family values, aspirations of being stay at home mom, loyal to death (as long as you protect her from other alphas). They can have a nasty freaky side just like any other woman and as long as you stay a red pill man and keep her off facebook, she'll continue to stay that sweet innocent bangable church mouse.

              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

              Isn't meetup just a bunch of 40 year old fat women? At least that's the only thing I've ever seen in any of the pics when they show meetups. What kind of single talent do you normally see at meetups OP? How old are you?

              [–]LouisWinthorpIII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

              NO matter how "perfect" your relationship, just remember that all women are a ticking time bomb. You may get extremely lucky and the timer may wind down after you are both dead...or maybe your not, and it goes off shortly after your wedding -- or in this case before it.

              Point is: their clocks are all ticking...completely out of anyone's control. It's their nature.

              [–]Tyrien -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

              sorry, this has been archived and can no longer be voted on

              I think you meant to post to /r/confession.