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[–][deleted] 132 points133 points  (5 children)

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Granted, there's always the possibility she cheated. Or tried to find somebody else but couldn't.

No, even if she couldn't find somebody else, she'd still resent you. Her change in attitude is a response to your changing frame. Congratulations man keep up the good work.

[–]LibertarianLibertine 3 points4 points  (4 children)

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Fair enough, but she still may have been cheating on him before he took the red pill.

[–]BluepillProfessor 5 points6 points  (3 children)

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Maybe- but her change in attitude is entirely explained by his change in frame and it is the most likely explanation. Besides, that was the old guy so it doesn't matter. She is not going to cheat on the new guy.

[–]TheSKSpecial[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

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I'm absolutely of the belief that if she wanted to cheat, she very well could and would. It's nature, I'm not super-alpha or anything, and somebody with good game could just as easy come in and take her. I couldn't even be mad if she cheats, because woman and tingles.

I just don't care, because I've developed that abundance mentality. I know I can spin plates and I have enough of a relationship with my kids that they know I'll always be their father and that nobody can take that away from us. I've been more of a father to them than she's been a mother.

[–]Epicureanist 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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I'm absolutely of the belief that if she wanted to cheat, she very well could and would. It's nature, I'm not super-alpha or anything, and somebody with good game could just as easy come in and take her. I couldn't even be mad if she cheats, because woman and tingles.

You've fully swallowed the pill mate.

They don't love us, they love attraction. We can try to be the best we'll ever be, but there'll always be someone more attractice (physically, more masculine, etc.).

[–]LibertarianLibertine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Agreed on that.

[–]cyear 87 points88 points  (5 children)

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This is awesome. Damage control is way harder than starting over. Well done.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (4 children)

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This pure, succinct, cogent truth. I would rather put in the effort to work on a savable relationship than weed through the millions of hamsters it takes to find one worthy of an LTR.

[–]chakravanti93 11 points12 points  (3 children)

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I think you guys said it but not so explicitly. If you can salvage, it's the more difficult path; it's also the equally rewarding path (assuming you picked well to begin with and just waxed beta and are now past a new moon).

It's always worth it because nothing can trump how long you've known someone in any kind of relationship. Even failed tests have value of investment. Memories of mutual achievement and their importance in a structure that produces exponential growth of confidence (assuming all else).

TRP doesn't like to talk about it directly but there are some thing in life that are just impossible without a high quality LTR because TRP handles the concept of responsibility in a rather abstruse fashion (because handling the concept of responsibility in an abstruse fashion is one of the skills it is trying to teach).

[–]skinisblackmetallic 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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abstruse

I learned a new word.

[–]chakravanti93 6 points7 points  (1 child)

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I learned it when someone misused it to describe Sir Humphrey Bogart (Yes Minister & Yes Prime Minister) by saying "obtuse;" this is really common and you will see people do this now that you know. After running around like such an idiot for a few months someone corrected my usage and I too, had learned a new word.

I recommend the show(s) and would note that the BBC has released them to the public domain and are free to to download.

[–]topspeedj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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"And Prime Minister, what about people who read The Sun?"

[–]1 Endorsed ContributorMeatclap 32 points33 points  (1 child)

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The dichotomy being that typically women are infantilizing of themselves or each other yet demand a mature respect despite being so. We are all best when we are doing what we are meant to, and it is the role of the woman in a heterosexual relationship to be the submissive. I've never dated a woman that made any allusions to the contrary, for them it was freeing and enjoyable to be treated as such rather than having to attempt and fail to live up to a social standard they could not mentally or emotionally handle. They wanted a man, not a girlfriend in a man's body, or a confidant to be the absorbent emotional tampon to be used up and discarded. It's really all in the hard wiring, and it sounds like you're really on track with your marriage.

Big applause to you for improving your marriage through insight, RP wisdom, finally just being who you are without apology. It takes tremendous effort to save a dying marriage, and it sounds like you're on course to beat the odds. Good luck to you, man.

[–]TheSKSpecial[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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Much appreciated. It's work, but it's gotten easier. Before I would question myself, like "what if she just gets worse oh god I think she's getting offended maybe I'm doing it wrong fuck I'm an idiot I'm gonna lose everything"

Now that I've seen results it's easy. I know that no matter what happens, I'll survive, and I know that little voice asking me why I was putting up with her shit was right. I don't have to. Which in turn gives me more strength.

So I don't care about failing with her anymore.

[–]megatron37 13 points14 points  (0 children)

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But for the time being at least, RP has made my marriage better than it ever was.

Plus, you get the ego boost of having maintained your dignity. Congrats.

[–]RedPillWisdom 77 points78 points  (5 children)

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Multiply this by tens of millions, and we will remake society into something worthy again. Red Pill Marriage is a return to sanity, and a return of men and women to the roles they were meant to be in.

Well done.

[–]barneygumbled 29 points30 points  (3 children)

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And guess what!? The man isn't being an abusive asshole, the woman is actually happier and is succeeding in all areas of her life including professional. The two partners have found direction in life.

The feminist strawman is that we all want to go back to the 50s. The woman was the one 'locked in', she stayed in the kitchen, got bored and miserable with a complacent husband who probably drank too much and got violent. These men were betas in an environment where betas were supplicated and appeased. It was a society that did its best to keep the cretinous masses at bay - this is the purpose of religious dogma as well.

It recognised the submissiveness of the woman, but the man didn't need to be dominant/alpha/redpill/whatever to keep his woman. He just had to stay employed and not break the law. This is no longer the case, and whilst it may frighten the weak man, we should see it as a challenge. It keeps us on our game, it keeps us in frame, and ultimately makes everybody much happier.

This is the future I have some hope for in a couple of generation's time, when women realise that freedom has responsibility, and their bodies operate on a biological basis, and doesn't acquiesce to their demands for professional success.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

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Ever try to argue rationally with a feminist? It is like trying to argue with an angry child. The funny thing is all the self identified feminist women I know, or the ones who spout the ideology, exclusively date dark triad men.

[–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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Women handle power worse than men do. Too much emotion.

[–]HeadingRed 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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The feminists of the past mostly wanted a shot (education, career etc). The modern day version has replaced "we all deserve a shot" with "men and women are exactly the same, only society makes them different".

Was talking with a group. Brought up the idea that until chivalry is dead women will never be truly equal (was stirring the pot a bit). Got some heat, stayed calm and straight faced and said "How do you expect a little girl to grow up to be a CEO if she expects the door hold open for her and seldom is expected to pick up the tab".

Silence.

[–]StarkAtheist 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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a return of men and women to the roles they were meant to be in.

A THOUSAND times yes.

When I teach women how to swing dance, I tell them, "Only ONE of us can lead... and it's NOT you."

[–]PBRistasty 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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Shit works...Every damn time.

Congrats man, I just started the process 3 months ago and the early results are very promising.

[–]moosik85 9 points10 points  (0 children)

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A lot of men blame women for how they act now . In reality men are the stronger more rational sex and women are simply getting away with what they are allowed to.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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Great post. I am a veteran of a 15 year marriage that never got to where you were from the 'close to divorce' perspective but I did let myself get fat and I did settle in to supplicating myself to a job I hated in order to provide for the family and our sex life dropped off a cliff. Then I decided I wanted to look better and feel better, changed my body and my diet and my mind to a more 'doing my own thing' kind of mindset and now everything has changed in our relationship, all for the positive. I'm slim and built and she's running marathons in order to keep in shape, which she has point blank told me she's doing in order to keep my eyes on her. The funny thing is, she's happier than she's been in years. She smiles all the time, greets me enthusiastically every time I come home, constantly talks about how much she's enjoying our life together. It's all for the good.

[–]Hardparty 3 points4 points  (7 children)

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Well done. The community is proud of you. I subscribe to /r/deadbedrooms just to compare these two subreddits. I'm going to x-post your post to there to open up some eyes to the truth.

[–]ubrayj02 6 points7 points  (5 children)

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OMG, that is a horrifying sub.

[–]Hardparty 0 points1 point  (4 children)

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Yeah, dead bedrooms and broken men and women. Seriously depressing. Poke around sometime. I posted this story there and it's getting mixed reviews. I just want to show that there are options for dead bedrooms

[–]TheSKSpecial[S] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

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Just checked out the r/deadbedrooms thread. You know what's sad? The criticism is about TRP itself, and apparently no one noticed or bothered to ask about how me using it actually fixed the dead bedroom.

Oh well. Can't be unplugged until you're ready for it.

[–]Hardparty 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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I think they deleted it from the subreddit, or it hasn't recieved enough upvotes to stay

[–]TheSKSpecial[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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Its still there, just downvoted to hell.

[–]elduckbell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Misery loves company.

[–]HeadingRed 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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"If she got louder, I'd get smoother. As a result, her tantrums got shorter and shorter."

In your shoes right now and this is working really well for me. I used to be willing to throw down and dial it up as much as she does. Since I adopted my "Zen master" frame when she gets wound up it ends faster with less drama and the outbursts have tapered off dramatically.

Another example of game\frame being critical to LTR.

Good post, thanks.

[–]1independentmale 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Indeed. Learning to be calm and collected in the face of my ex's drama was a lifesaver. I'd let her run her mouth for awhile, refuse to engage, then calmly ask if she was done throwing her tantrum. When she spun right back up I'd say, "No? Ok. Go on, get it all out of your system." It made her look ridiculous, she knew she was the root of the problem and this only confirmed it for both of us.

After awhile you can take it to the next level. Ask her why she's so angry all of the time. Why does she have to yell so much? Why is she putting her family through all of this? Can we have a calm, rational discussion this time, or are you just going to yell and scream like a toddler again? Really puts things in perspective.

[–]BluepillProfessor 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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This is GOLDEN. New RP-ers and Bitter Clingers take note: This man did NOT start treating his wife like an ogre or throwing orders around. He started acting like THE MAN. In return she started acting like THE WOMAN. I think this is why this forum is such a threat that it has to be mischaracterized as using a pump-and-dump strategy with your wife. TRP is not that. TRP says the man should be the man- and that is the REAL threat they are wailing about.

I always say Lose your Frame; Lose the tingles.

A corollary is: Get your frame back; get them tingles back.

TRP is not all about being dominant and in control Don't be afraid to be nice to your wife when she is behaving. Unasked for blowjobs and initiating sex is worth a reward. Cuddle, be sweet, pay attention to her, and listen to her prattle on about her dreams for a few minutes. Let her see a glimpse of your inner goo that only SHE can bring out of her Alpha bad boy- before resuming treating her with overwhelming indifference and Outcome Independence.

[–]TheSKSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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I agree. I don't want to give the impression I became a bully or a dictator. I didn't order her around, I didn't force her to do anything. I just did what I wanted to with no apologies, I had nothing to lose, and I was fully prepared to crash and burn. It couldn't get much worse than it already was.

It didn't, and here we are.

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    [–]Nerd_Destroyer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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    It's the reference to little kids

    [–]ColdEiric 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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    Leading by example. Nice one, man. This is what every man should do, and you just made it. Keep it up.

    [–]Bisuboy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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    Impressive. Maybe I should show this to my father, haha

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (10 children)

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    Cool man, thank you for sharing, glad to hear that RP is helping you.

    One question: do you consider your wife attractive?

    Because I, being in a bit similar situation, I am filling divorce papers now. My wife's fat and does not want to do anything about it, she's also pretty confident, so I guess she has some boyfriend I am not aware of. Or, she's a good player :-)

    [–]TheSKSpecial[S] 4 points5 points  (7 children)

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    I do consider her attractive. I'd say she's a 6.5/7. Not stunningly hot, but enough that guys still try to talk to her.

    After our son was born, she gained some weight. She went from 90-some lbs and a size 0 to about 145 and a size 10. Fortunately, it didn't just go to her belly. She went up a couple bra sizes and developed a decent ass.

    Anyway, as I was improving myself, she started working out and trying to lose weight. I guess it's because she saw that her beta bux was a fairly handsome motherfucker who could do better than her if he wanted and she'd be a single mom with 2 kids.

    If you start improving yourself, she'll either step up because she still wants you, or stay the same, in which case you're in a good state to recover if/when you split.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (6 children)

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    I'm going to a lawyer tomorrow. Not only I totally stopped liking her because of her behaviour, I no longer consider her a serious partner for life. My changes don't do shit to her. Maybe year or two ago she had her moment it looked like she is going to do something, but no longer.

    [–]BluepillProfessor 2 points3 points  (4 children)

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    I think a change to TRP only works if the woman is normal, healthy, and sane and may only work if she is looking for her husband to 'man up' and 'take charge.' This is very common in marriage today so TRP often works. However, if the woman wants to remain dominant so she can continue belittling and mentally abusing her man and refuses to accept, encourage, and most of all RESPECT her husband then there is really only one path forward. Wish you the best. It doesn't matter if you are getting divorced- maintain your frame all the way through the trial. Don't let her push your buttons and make calm, rational, logical, masculine decisions from beginning to end and everything will turn out well. If you have your own place start working on pickup- artistry and approaching females but don't get caught with your pants down until it is finalized.

    Also, the best advice I ever read from Athol Kay says: Stay with your changes for at least 1 month for every year of marriage before you give up and decide to split. From reading your posts I think you are past that point so good luck and karma to you.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

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    Thanks. Thanks for Atho's quote, I remember reading it.

    The deal is, that I found TRP and MMSLP after being called shit and deciding for divorce.

    And, maybe in the past I have not changed into a dominant male, but I did lot of improvement and every improvement I did made my marriage worse and worse.

    At this given moment I do NOT consider my wife to be a valuable life partner. She looks bad, behaves bad, I totally do not trust her and above everything I do not want to be with her in any form of agreement that involves money AND law, except child support maybe.

    Maybe this is a test for my frame, sent by God, already. See, that I found TRP after deciding for divorce, not otherwise.

    The thing is, I saw too many strange behavior from my wife. I don't trust her at all. I want her out of a legal marriage agreement.

    Also, I want to be legit for me to bang young women.

    [–]BluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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    I almost envy you- have fun!

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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    Heh, thanks, BluepillProfessor. My married friend says that too. How do you think, if both of you envy me, will that do any good to my SMV? :-) I think it should... :-)

    [–]BluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    It will if YOU think it does.

    [–]TheSKSpecial[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    Fair enough. Keep moving forward.

    [–]DabLord 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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    When you start lifting and your physique noticeably changes she will more than likely follow your lead. The key here is too lead by example. You need to be in better shape and better looking than her to motivate her to improve her appearance.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    To be honest, I think we are already PAST this.

    2 yrs ago I lost tremendous amounts of weight. She started going to therapy and to the gym too.

    Now she just sits on her ass doing nothing. And gains fat.

    [–]ITakeAllthePills 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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    Congratulations on fixing your marriage! I don't really agree with all of TRP, but reading posts like this makes me happy it exists for some people. Confidence, making yourself attractive, challenging your partner, all these things help immensely in making one present in a relationship. People thrive best, I think, when their selfishness is challenged and not allowed to flourish.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    Impressive story.

    [–]aphelion3342 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    Well done sir.

    [–]2 Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 15 points16 points  (12 children)

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    Isn't it sad that you have to do all the work? It's great that you are able to learn TRP and exercise your will to maintain frame, but I just feel like you are doing all the work of maintaining your marriage. She isn't even helping, she is just basking in the feels of being around a guy that now knows how to maintain an Alpha frame. Has this changed your perception of your wife? Do you love her less now that you understand her?

    She even used to talk about how she wanted to fuck me over with child support and alimony.

    This isn't a good person. This isn't someone of high moral fiber. She may be nice when you are maintaining frame but this isn't loyalty or love, this is someone that possesses latent capability to relationship-rape you with little conscience.

    Q: Has this episode changed your view of your marriage aside from the nuts and bolts of doing your job as man of the house?

    [–]TheSKSpecial[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

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    It's absolutely changed my view of my marriage. Prior to taking TRP, I was blue pill personified. Walked on eggshells to avoid making her upset. Bent over backwards trying to cater to her every whim. I was doing all the shit you're "supposed to do" to keep a woman happy. Happy wife, happy life and all that bullshit. Sure, there was always that little voice that said "why the fuck do I put up with this shit?", but I hamstered it away by saying "this is what real men do. I'm being a good husband."

    Fuck, I'm pissing myself off thinking about how weak I was back then.

    Has this changed your perception of your wife? Do you love her less now that you understand her?

    It's changed my perception of her, but not in a negative way. She's an American woman in her 20s. Expecting a lot of rational thought or self-realization from her is like expecting an elephant to moonwalk. At first I was kind of angry, like "why am I doing all the work and just hoping she'll stay? Fuck this bitch." But as time went on it graduated to "I like my new self now, and I think she does too."

    And now it's more like "oh well, if she leaves tomorrow I'll have a new girl by the weekend."

    I expect her to just be here for the feelz. I know this can come crashing down at any time. But I also know that I am a man, nobody owes me shit, and I am the only person responsible for my own happiness.

    I don't love her any less, just differently now that I better understand women's nature.

    this is someone that possesses latent capability to relationship-rape you with little conscience.

    Believe me, that is something that will always sit in the back of my mind. Briffault's Law is a motherfucker. That's why I'm taking precautions. I've got worst case scenarios mapped out in my mind and contingency plans ready.

    [–]16 Endorsed ContributorCyralea 10 points11 points  (1 child)

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    How upset would you be that your 5 year old daughter isn't carrying her weight with cleaning the house or paying the bills? Exactly, that's not her job. It's yours.

    Part of the nature of being alpha is being the strong leader. This means having responsibilities above and beyond those in your company. Your woman is your partner, but she is not your equal. Yes, this means you have to do more work, but that's why you are the dominant leader and she is not.

    The wise 20th century philosopher Parker once said, "With great power comes great responsibility"

    [–]1bicepsblastingstud 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    This means having responsibilities above and beyond those in your company.

    Beautifully put.

    Everyone has two choices, when confronted with work: You can bitch about how "it's not fair" and "I'm doing more than my share," or you can shut the fuck up and get things done.

    [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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    AWALT

    [–]frequentlywrong 18 points19 points  (3 children)

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    She isn't even helping, she is just basking in the feels of being around a guy that now knows how to maintain an Alpha frame.

    Now that he is providing his role in the relationship (leadership), she is providing hers (support).

    Why are you bitter against human nature? It's the most pointless thing in the world.

    This isn't a good person.

    This is womenspeak. A RP man does not think in those terms. You've got a long way to go.

    This isn't someone of high moral fiber.

    Honor is a male virtue.

    [–]2 Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 4 points5 points  (2 children)

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    Why are you bitter against human nature? It's the most pointless thing in the world.

    Why do you project your own feelings onto others?

    If this were just the story of a man and a woman I'd say let the chips fall where they may and let the games begin. But it's not. There are two children involved, and the wife has expressed the desire to divorce-rape him should it come to that. That left him with two options: 1. learn TRP and fix things on his own, or 2. get divorce-raped. Not much of a choice, really, and it really makes me wonder if he is just a hostage in this situation. At least the children are hostages. Yeah TRP fixed OP's situation, but did it really? Because no matter how you slice it either he is a hostage or the children are, or everyone is.

    [–]TheSKSpecial[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

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    Any man that gets married or has kids in the West in this day and age is entering a hostage situation, he just doesn't know it.

    To continue the analogy, pre-TRP I'd be walking in unarmed and unprepared. Now I at least have a bulletproof vest on, I know she's a terrible shot and she's packing a .22 with only one in the chamber, something that could kill me, but it'll be hard. Armed with that knowledge, I'm making this a more tolerable situation for me.

    Even if she pulls the trigger, odds are I'll live.

    EDIT:added the last line about odds.

    [–]skinisblackmetallic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    Everyone is.

    [–]PM_ME_BOOTYSHOTS 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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    She isn't even helping

    No shit Sherlock.

    If the management is absent, the employees aren't going to care either. Its not their fault, they have no incentive to care.

    The boss is back in the office cracking the whip now though, and the company is turning around.

    If there's no leadership, there's no direction and no morale.

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      [–]frequentlywrong 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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      AWALT and from the beige phillip principles "It's always your fault" (rule 7 transcribed from the show here http://illimitablemen.com/48lawsofwomen/).

      He is being down voted because he is talking like a bitter man who just found out the truth and is not accepting it.

      [–]andromede8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      Isn't it sad that you have to do all the work?

      He's doing all the work now because he's the one who fucked up first.

      [–]1mr_throwz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      Man, this reminds me how I was super RP (without even knowing this sub yet) when I met my last LTR, and how I got comfy with her and became more beta, then shit got fucked up, and after we broke up I went all RP again and now she sweats my nuts and regrets her decisions.

      [–]gprime312 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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      Congrats man. Have your kids picked up on the change of dynamics?

      [–]TheSKSpecial[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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      Not sure. When it comes to them they already know daddy's the boss. I handle all the leadership and discipline for them, even in the past my wife would say I'm a good father.

      It's when I had to directly deal with her, romantically and emotionally, that I was fucking up.

      [–]gprime312 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      Thank goodness for that. Kids need a strong role model

      [–]massrabbler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      Good for you man. That's an amazing reversal.

      [–]shamanbard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      Awesome SKS! It's really funny how Game can turn a roaring bitch into a doting puppy. I hope that everything turns out really well for you and your family. The nice thing about implementing TRP in a marriage is the fact that it makes the decision for you. If the relationship needs to just die already, it does. If the relationship can be saved, it becomes even stronger. You both were in love enough to get married, and I really hope that ya'll can find that again. I'm going to stop writing right here before my sappy inner romantic breaks the door off his holding cell...

      [–]1ThumpNuts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      In an earlier post, I tried using this technique with every woman I came across... even besides my wife.

      It was a failure. Why? Cause I already did this subconsciously. That has always been my success with women. The only thing I had to work on was patience. I have a lot more patience with children than I do with adult women. I still have to work on it.

      [–]RedPillJohnny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      Posts like this gives a married brother some hope...thanks for that!

      [–]bgny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      Great report, congratulations on saving your marriage. Would love to read an update in the future. Keep exuding that masculine energy!

      [–]jadedspade 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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      This is amazing. Saving a marriage using RP theory. How can people be so against the practices of this sub? We should show them things like this, it would definitely change their views.

      [–]TheSKSpecial[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      They either won't or can't believe it, they've been taught so long to believe this is "misogynistic". They see the language and think it's just "men hating women", "men wanting patriarchy", and "neckbeards bitter they can't get laid".

      You can't force them to change their views. You can only show them what it's done for you. Hopefully they'll see the way, but if not you can't be mad at them. You can only free those who wish to be freed.

      [–]_whistler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      Your post brought a broad smile to my face. Congratulation, brother.

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      Just wanted to add to this thread - I work in a department which is mostly female. Big range of ages. But there was just a discussion in the next aisle over that was essentially them talking about "getting back" at their husbands. Including referencing small things mentioned by their husbands up to a week ago. I had to pick my jaw up off the floor after accidentally overhearing that.

      [–]jcslzr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      thanks man, opened my eyes, simple truths are the more powerful

      [–]Unconaction 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      Thanks for sharing,still a rookie,so it's helpful to read about the changed interpersonal dynamics when one goes from blue to red.

      Must be a shock for any wife/LTR to wake up to a ex-beta, whose newfound poise,strength and leadership "scares" them. As you continue raising your SMV through continual improvement it's almost sounds like you the ultimate dread game. As others have said- well done.

      [–]SouthAfricanGiant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      Well done. You took control and you are getting what you want.

      I would say that recovering a failing LTR is worth it because you have already invested so much into it.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      Wish my Dad could've read this.

      Because my mom fucked him over in court (pretty much like your wife would've if you didn't know about redpill), and ruined the family. Fast-forward a couple years, and my brother is the product of single-motherhood with a ruined life because of it. Hell, I was lucky enough to decide to live with my dad.

      Anyway, I sincerely thank you for writing this. Men who are already married, and in the shit, can use /r/theredpill to help them get out of the danger zone.

      [–]Khazrihl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      'I just want you to be proud of me.'

      I hate to admit it, but I got a feel.