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[–]miss_sogony 144 points145 points  (8 children)

Sometimes I read posts and think, this is all bullshit and this is all just some elaborate troll board. Your post is a prime example.

Then you try it, and it works.

[–]elchoma90[S] 59 points60 points  (6 children)

I felt like that during my BP days. I thought PUA forums and this subreddit were just a bunch of keyboard warriors circle jerking. Then you try it and boom! Could it be? Let's try again... Holy shit!

[–]drimadethistocomment 26 points27 points  (5 children)

I'm not gonna lie, it's not that surprising that a girl who currently depends on you to not be in the street would give up anal and blowjobs when you called her on her shit. I think even BP me would have put two and two together and gotten a bj or two

[–]Hrel 6 points7 points  (4 children)

My thoughts exactly, in that situation you have all the power and nothing to lose.

Note to self, letting girl live with you could lead to easy sex.

[–]drimadethistocomment 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Oh it does. I was in a similar situation, but I was dating her. This was before TRP, but I still had moments where I was thinking "fuck this shit. This is my house." She was homeless without me. There were times I ignored her for the entire day, because she was being annoying. I look back and think I could have had it way better, but I can tell you I got my dick sucked the mornings after I refused to play her games. She'd get all huffy and go to bed early sometimes. I'd just keep doing my thing. I'd stick to my side of the bed when I went to sleep. I knew she was just waiting for me to cave and come cuddle with her and pretty much grovel like the beta she wanted me to be. The next day she'd be all sunshine and rainbows. I'd wake up to her throwing herself at me. It's a wonder TRP strategies didn't fully click at the time. The one thing that really got me though was crying. Crying is the female version of a nuke. I haven't had that since reading TRP(not with anyone though). To be honest, I'm afraid I might cave

[–]mongoosejones 12 points13 points  (0 children)

True story. Crying is the most unfair thing a chick can do. I've found looking them straight in the eye straight faced is the best response, though my ex made me want to cave all the time. Hold strong, bro.

[–]elchoma90[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well yeah I'm not bragging guys just sharing a fucking FR ffs

[–]note-to-self-bot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A friendly reminder:

letting girl live with you could lead to easy sex.

[–]TogiBear 214 points215 points  (91 children)

A morning BJ after anal?

Well played.

[–]Irishjavaa 145 points146 points  (79 children)

Sounds kinda like bs, but who knows..

[–]Reddthrown 31 points32 points  (32 children)

I recommend showering after anal.

[–]Enlileon 15 points16 points  (30 children)

And she should defecate and shower beforehand too.

[–]elchoma90[S] 41 points42 points  (29 children)

Yeah. I could actually feel a turd when I first fingered her lol guess I pushed that sucker out of the way. Did you know apparently turds are rock hard before they come out! Either that or this chick shits bricks.

Edit Shit (lol) I don't get the downvotes. Itz only smellz.

[–]monsieurhire2 49 points50 points  (1 child)

And people wonder why they call us "shitlords."

[–]esco_ 79 points80 points  (8 children)

lol, thats disgusting dude

[–]elchoma90[S] 132 points133 points  (7 children)

Stop turd-shaming! Check your privilege, pig.

[–]DexterousRichard 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Anal is fucking disgusting. God made pussy for a reason man...

[–]lesbianDREAMS 14 points15 points  (0 children)

He also made gays who love a good buttfuckin

[–]FaithfulJinn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And God gave us asses as well.

So I could fuck women in them.

[–]LS_D 16 points17 points  (2 children)

duuuuuude,I love me some anal BUTT, if I discover a turd while doing finger prepping ... I send that bitch to the bathroom stat!

[–]elchoma90[S] 23 points24 points  (1 child)

You are such a party pooper.

[–]LS_D 2 points3 points  (0 children)

hehe! Na bro, she's the pooper, before I bon'er

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[–]bonekeeper 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Did you know apparently turds are rock hard before they come out!

Actually I noticed that! Weird, isn't it? It's like there's a pointy piece of plastic up in there.

[–]Dnico 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Did you know apparently turds are rock hard before they come out!" -elchoma90

[–]heyjabroni 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You sound like a person who has no idea how anal sex works.

"pushed that sucker out of the way." Lol.

[–]BrotyKraut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude this story is totally true.

[–]elchoma90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You got a phd on it or something haha

[–]Buchloe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She probably eats a lot of protein, not enough fiber/ veggies I'm guessing

[–]Buchloe -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Was gonna butt-bone my gf a couple weeks ago, but used a butt plug to warm her up. Pulled it out- covered in shit. She was embarrassed, I was like don't worry about it (didn't want her scared to try again sometime). Sooo glad I didn't get a shit dick. Anyway, she figured out the solution. Nutted in her butt hole last night. Bazinga.

[–]LS_D 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I recommend a BJ after anal

[–]1niczar 42 points43 points  (35 children)

There's that thing called condoms. You might have heard about them. It's all the rage with the kids.

[–]tall_trees 24 points25 points  (9 children)

thats a funny joke.... wish it was true though

[–]greasy_luigi 36 points37 points  (8 children)

The thing about condoms is they're kind of just for people smart enough to wear them. Everyone else just pulls out and tries to rinse the herpes off in the sink. They breed and breed while people that planned their life correctly start trying to have kids in their early 30's.

[–]tall_trees 6 points7 points  (3 children)

But the number of people who actually think with more then their penis are dwindling rapidly.

[–]LS_D 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the number of people who actually think with more then their penis are dwindling rapidly.

At least guys have a 'little head' to do some thinking for them! lol

[–]1kingofpoplives 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True story. Nobody gave a fuck about herpes until a drug company invented a drug to treat it and, in order sell said drug, invented the lovely narrative of the horrific STD we all cower in fear of today:

[–]osheninja2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This pretty much sums up what will lead to the destruction of western civilization :p

[–]anandjeyahar 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Are you writing the plot of Idiocracy?

[–]greasy_luigi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fucking living it man. It's been ten years since I got out of high school and I know maybe two good couples who had a kid the right way. I have a lot of friends that had two kids before age 18. Statistically those kids are fucked, but we all hope for the best.

[–]1xwm 14 points15 points  (12 children)

But she cant have babies from her butt.... Besides, a girls ass smells like perfume and lolipops, right?

[–]curiousthis 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And it farts rainbows. Do not forget that!

[–]14578542799953267663 15 points16 points  (8 children)

condoms do more than stopping pregnacies you know.

like keeping shit off dick

[–]graduallywinning 23 points24 points  (7 children)

You seem like the type of guy that eats his pizza with a fork and knife

[–]sir_wankalot_here 16 points17 points  (5 children)

You seem like the type of guy who likes to catch HIV,herpes, syphiliss, gonerea etc.

[–]rpkarma 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Well you're safe, sir_wankalot

I kid I kid. No one is safe from VD ಠ_ಠ

[–]sir_wankalot_here 2 points3 points  (3 children)

True, but you can cut down the risk. In Thailand when the sex workers implemented a condom only policy, HIV transmission rates from sex dropped to pretty close to zero.

Anal sex is riskier because there is a greater possibility of tearing and bleeding, that is why homosexual men where at a greater risk for HIV. Again with condom use, it has reduced the occurance of HIV drastically.

If you use sex toys and are doing lets say MFF threesomes. Either each girl has her own toy or you get one of the girls to wash the toy well with soap and water before it is used on the other girl.

Toys should be cleaned properly before being put away, and before use.

[–]rpkarma 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You're preaching to the already converted here dude, I'm just giving you stick. I've wrapped it up since day 1 and will continue to do so, even with my LTR (I don't want accidental babies, even though I know she's clean -- went and got us both tested within a month of us having regular sex. I'm paranoid about that shit)

Good comment though, and something people should pay attention to.

[–]rubycando 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True. I also use condoms on toys when dealing with multiple simultaneous sex partners. I expect the women involved to provide their own, but I also keep a collection of toys handy, and I assign one per partner. Never had any complaints, about condoms or toys assignment, matter of fact most girls wanna keep them and I let them if sex was really really dirty.

Oh, I just realized why the girl who works at the sex shop where I buy my stuff smiles at me so much. I shop a lot!

There is a company who sells condoms in various shapes and forms, adapted for various sex toys they produce and sell. I can't remember, for the love of me, witch company it was. I'll edit this post if I can remember it.

[–]TheThingsIThink 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I don't even think this is a pro-tip. Possibly and shower after anal. I got a UTI the first time I buggered my now-wife.

[–]sdflkjeroi342 2 points3 points  (0 children)

shower after anal.

And take a whiz! Gotta flush out the bacteria.

[–]sir_wankalot_here 3 points4 points  (0 children)

STD wise, anal is far more risky then regular sex. You a condom for FFS.

[–]xxTin 5 points6 points  (7 children)

Covering your sensitive parts with plastic bags? WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT?

[–]greasy_luigi 16 points17 points  (1 child)

You'll thank yourself when your dick doesn't feel like a sock full of legos.

[–]smokeybehr 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I always wrapped my meat, but I still get that from dealing with kidney stones.

[–]SupALupRT 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Those of us who prefer to keep control of their life, rather than leave it up to a mercurial woman and her ability to take her BC or to decide if she wants to trap you.

[–]TaylorWolf 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No matter what is said online there is always someone calling BS

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    [–]_valtiel_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I've been seeing a lot of these.

    [–]silly_bird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Sounds like BS, but tastes like shit.

    [–]MasonJarTeaDrinker -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Nah I've had it done before, no biggie, wasn't the next morning though it was more of an ATM thing.

    [–]elchoma90[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

    You mean because of shit on my dick?? Haha I'm the kinda person who pees and showers after sex but I didn't fuck her raw anyways so no shit on my dick bro lol

    [–]Nerf_Circus 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    You guys clean your dicks after shoving them up the poop shot right?

    [–]elchoma90[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

    Bingo. You don't sleep with shit on your dick, kids. Infections and all... I recommend not fucking plates raw anyways.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    This is exactly what I thought.

    I don't know how the fuck they do it. (the womyns)

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      [–]elchoma90[S] 5 points6 points  (5 children)

      Have you ever done it? Its overrated lol more of a power trip really.

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        [–]elchoma90[S] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

        Go for it it's a trip but after 5 minutes you're gonna want to go back to the pussy it just feels better

        [–]LS_D 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        Go for it it's a trip but after 5 minutes you're gonna want to go back to the pussy it just feels better

        While I agree here, I have had several girls tell me that 'anal was the best sex" they have had!

        Having never been fuked in the arse I wouldn't know, butt I have 'heard' plenty to suggest it can be pretty nice O_o!

        I wonder how many women see porn with chicks screaming in (? pleasure?) while getting boned in the butt and then think "hmmm I wouldnt mind trying that out?"

        Originally for me, it was all about the "badass" factors (and possibly domination) factors which turned me on about getting a girls anal cherry

        However, a I said, so many really liked it that it's become a normal part of doing the deed!

        Also, these days (past 10yrs) I've had more girls ask for it than during the first 20 odd years I was having sex! Go figure?

        [–]elchoma90[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Yeah once you stretch them out they love getting pounded but by then it doesnt feel tight any longer and its like meh I noticed central american bitches love that shit lol Its come to the point i just do it to hear them scream more than to get physical pleasure

        [–]LS_D 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        i just do it to hear them scream more than to get physical pleasure

        yeah, same ... it''s a kind of trip, plus they always come back for more

        [–]Mouthpiece 24 points25 points  (0 children)

        It sounds like you definitely learned how to deal with her. Thanks for the report.

        [–]2mbillion 23 points24 points  (48 children)

        the only thing I do not like about this is that it sounds like she is just living at your house. Not that its super bad but what is she getting from you, a months worth of rent is say 900 dollars in your area? she is getting a pretty sweet deal

        [–]elchoma90[S] 15 points16 points  (44 children)

        Rent is over 1500 lol and no I didn't ask her to move in with me as a matter of fact she insisted I let her use my garage as a storage room which of course I didn't allow. No way my Ramcharger '91 is sleeping in the streets to accommodate a plate. She has one week to find another place to sleep BTW. Maybe if she keeps up the king treatment I'll extend that to 2 weeks.

        [–]Jason-Genova 24 points25 points  (24 children)

        fyi, check your house laws. Some states if they live with you for so long legally you can't kick them out without giving them 30 day to pack their shit. I can see a woman trying to use this law against you.

        [–]elchoma90[S] 18 points19 points  (23 children)

        Thanks for the heads up. I gave her a week, maybe two if it pleases me. She's not on the lease anyway so I can always call the cops on her if she won't leave voluntarily. I doubt this girl will do that to me but you never know with the wymen.

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          [–]elchoma90[S] 7 points8 points  (21 children)

          Well if it comes down to her not leaving I'll call security. She's not on the lease and security can do whatever the fuck they want right? I'm friends with most of them anyway I'm sure they won't white knight. Once she's out she can't cry to the cops. Can she?

          [–]pl231 14 points15 points  (18 children)

          are you being purposefully naive? of course she can... a) you shouldn't have let her stay if you ever thought that could happen b) that should be your absolute last resort

          [–]widec 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          You can always call the police to escort her out, but she must be out of earshot. Don't want her fabricating any rape claims during the response time.

          [–]elchoma90[S] 0 points1 point  (16 children)

          What could she possibly say? I don't see that working out in her favor

          [–]kenatogo 14 points15 points  (15 children)

          She could say you assaulted or raped her and threw her out of her home. Cops show up for that shit.

          [–]elchoma90[S] -1 points0 points  (14 children)

          And they'll believe it because? Are we forgetting she got evicted literally less than 72 hours ago? I'm sure that's on her record.

          [–]Enphuego 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          Just kick her out when she's already out of the house. Bag up her stuff and hand it to her on the street.

          [–]elchoma90[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          That's also smart. She asked for a copy of the keys for convenience today lol I told her she doesn't live here she just has then privilege to sleep here. Another shit test passed. Remember that song? "Never grant her access to your villa" wise words.

          [–]MartialWay 6 points7 points  (7 children)

          Elchoma is going to sleeping in his '91 Ramcharger after she kicks him out of the house with a bogus restraining order :)

          [–]elchoma90[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

          That makes no sense. I pay my rent I'm the only one on the lease contract I've been living here alone for 2 years and because I let her crash for a week people are gonna believe whatever she has to say? Don't be silly. Its not a house BTW.

          [–]MartialWay 10 points11 points  (5 children)

          That makes no sense.

          Correct, this makes no sense. It's also how my state has been handling Restraining Orders for some years now.

          [–]elchoma90[S] -1 points0 points  (4 children)

          She got evicted. That's on her record. Her story won't hold up, mine will. Worse case scenario is I spend a night in custody.

          [–]LS_D 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          She got evicted. That's on her record. Her story won't hold up, mine will. Worse case scenario is I spend a night in custody.

          two words bro . . . /r/PussyPass

          lol it worked on you!

          [–]MartialWay 5 points6 points  (2 children)

          She got evicted. That's on her record. Her story won't hold up, mine will.

          Look up your state laws on Restraining Orders. The whole "her story won't hold up, mine will" is irrelevant if the law doesn't care about who lived there longer (it generally doesn't with regard to ROs). All she has to do is label you as an abuser, and say she's been living there for a week.

          Worse case scenario is I spend a night in custody.

          Worst case scenario in my state is that you're suddenly homeless and ordered to pay her rent for the next year while she finds a new place to stay.

          [–]enticingasthatmaybe 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          They aren't going to remove a man from the home he leased and is paying for and allow a squater to stay there on his dime. If she files a restraining order she'll be told to stay away from his home.

          Having gone through the situation of removing a female roommate from the house that I own, I can say that: Give her written notice to vacate within 30 days (notice does not have to be certified, the land owner / primary tenant's records suffice to prove dates). The 30 days is only so she can secure her things. If after a day she leaves and you change the locks, she doesn't have any legal footing against you as long as she has access to her belongings.

          She will have to prove ownership of anything she claims you kept from her.

          [–]2mbillion 1 point2 points  (10 children)

          thanks for the clarification, and its awesome you have a 91 ramcharger, does it have the badass hood ornament of the ram?

          Yeah that is less BP then I originally assumed, I thought she just up and moved in

          [–]elchoma90[S] 4 points5 points  (9 children)

          It is indeed awesome. I plan on passing it down to my oldest some day when I decide to settle down. I removed the back seats and had my dad who does upholstery make a custom pillowed interior. Added LED lights that dim and brighten to the music and other fancy shit but I don't have the ornament, it's hard to find (an original one). Trucks are the players vehicle IMO. Women dig them and they provide a good on-the-go fuck spot. I'd post a picture but I'm paranoid of doxxing. There's a million pictures of my baby on my facebook and I don't want no SJW tracking me down. Do you have a truck yourself?

          And no bro no way that's gonna happen to me, I'm naturally an asshole. My parents kinda fucked it up by not disciplining me nearly enough but at least that made me develop an in-your-face attitude that I've finished sculpting over the years to play in my favor. TRP played a large role in that evolution.

          [–]mra4ever 2 points3 points  (2 children)

          I have a ram hood ornament but I don't have the base. Just the Ram head with the pin. I had a pickup truck of that generation 10 years ago but it turned into a money pit so I eventually got rid of it. I agree keep yours inside but make sure its locked up. You don't want her to vandalize it especially since you can't find body parts for it now. Almost all of them are rotted out by now.

          [–]elchoma90[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          Is it for sale? Is it black or platinum? I could always ask my uncle to make a base for me...

          [–]mra4ever 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Its the platinum part...its original off a 80s dodge truck. Does have wear and tear on it. I like keeping it even though I currently drive a 90s Ford truck, and won't own another 80s Dodge any time soon (90% of those trucks around here are rotted out plow trucks, the decent ones go for $$$$$). If I change my mind I'll hit you up.

          [–]2mbillion 0 points1 point  (5 children)

          yeah my cousin had a ramcharger and somebody paid him a small fortune for the hood ornament. Still a cool truck without it for sure.

          I got a really good deal on a harley davidson f150 so I bought that... even though I ride japanese bikes mainly (I do have a harley project that seems to always be in some state of needing a repair to run - itll be cool one day) I got the truck blacked out, the grill and rims, got HID lights, some small performance upgrades and a kicking, but not over the top sound system. The ladies do tend to like trucks for whatever reason. I love the truck but honestly I liked my audi I had before the truck better, it was also a chick magnet and it got a lot better gas mileage and it was never a pain in the ass to park. Other than that though I got no complaints

          [–]elchoma90[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

          Cool. Sports are pussy magnets for sure but there's just something about trucks. They run forever too you know. Knowing you own something that'll last a lifetime and that you can work on yourself is amazing.

          I know that "soon I'll be riding" feeling haha when I got my Ramcharger the guy clearly had no fucking idea what he was giving away. The chassis was INTACT so was the interior except for the upholstery the engine was in very decent condition (only 230k miles!!) The truck needed new suspension, to be raised up a bit (must have belonged to some wankster or something it was stupidly low) new tires, new upholstery (I think he locked his cats it there or something it was ripped all over), other little things here and there and he gave it away for... $500!!! I had a hard time keeping a poker face.

          Im an skeptic but it was almost like it was destiny. I was working construction with this guy and he got fucked over by the general contractor so he couldn't pay me. He said "come to my yard later today and we'll figure something out" and there she was all covered in dirt waiting for me...

          It took me nearly 2 years to get it ready to show off but damn when I got on then finished product and took her for her first ride... You see I could've drive it from day one but I promised myself I wouldn't until it was ready to make pussies wet and guys jealous. I'll never forget I was only 19 it was my first ride ever and it was all thanks to my sweat. I thank my dad for not buying me a car like I wanted.

          As for MPG yes most definitely not the best but I ride bicycle pretty much everywhere so it evens out.

          Wall of text I know but I think you understand how much I love my ride.

          [–]2mbillion 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          fuck me - I used to live in minneapolis and bicycling was very safe. Now I live in a smaller city approx 75000 people and there are no bike lanes and people have no awareness about how to drive in a city.

          I feel like a fighter pilot in world war one making a massive amounts of near misses with crazy fucks out there - so I do not bike so much anymore

          [–]elchoma90[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          I feel you I live in a valley with nearly 2 million people lol I take the lane. I get insulted on a daily basis but they can suck my dick it's legal and I won't risk my life to accommodate assholes. It's always fun catching up with road warriors at a light and asking them to roll their windows down haha It's specially satisfying when I catch their girlfriends 'miring

          [–]2mbillion 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          In cities its not seen as hoopty to ride a bicycle, unfortunately out here everybody just assumes you are poor or have multiple duis so ladies most often think its a sign of inferiority. On the other side of the coin its fucking enjoyable to cruise, it is just so fun and peaceful

          [–]elchoma90[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Oh no most people think I'm a broke ass niggah and don't believe me when I tell them I ride because I just love to. Then I show up in my pimpin truck and no one can believe its mine lol See I'm extremely frugal my bike is a Schwinn Prelude '89, yellow and white, I installed a black rack and didn't even spend money on a bracket I used a shoelace haha I eat chicken broth Monday to Friday because it makes all that chicken easier to eat, I never eat out when we go to restaurants I'm "that guy" that rubs his tummy and goes "oh I'm full" so everyone assumes I can't afford "real food" so yeah I say fuck them do as you like.

          [–]squirrelcuisine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Yes but she didnt have to make breakfast and I dont know when I get an unsolicited blow job (Got one from the wife Wed night for NO reason) that usually means something. If they are going to that kind of effort. I appreciate it. (My wife just asked me what I would like her to make for dinner too. Yea it works. )

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            [–]2mbillion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            yeah you are right about that

            [–]MasonJarTeaDrinker 17 points18 points  (4 children)

            I see a lot of dudes upset that she's staying at your pad but I see nothing wrong with is, you're the king of the pad and giving this chick a helping hand. If you were't banging her then I would understand the hate but you're tapping that ass so I don't see it as a big deal, specially if it's just for a few weeks.

            [–]elchoma90[S] 8 points9 points  (3 children)

            Some people deal in extremes. I'm kind of a dick but I'm not a bad person. No way I'm letting sweet Julie out in the streets. No way I'm being taken advantage of neither. You see she's actually pretty chill and I know she was just upset about losing her studio and taking it out on me by being a cunt (why do you like this? Why do you do that? That's dumb etc.) In my BP days I would see her current situation as an excuse to allow her to walk all over me. Right now after swallowing the red pill I reacted completely differently, it pissed me off this girl was being so ungrateful and I called her out. It worked in everyone's favor. It was the right thing to do. If I rewarded her bad behavior it would've only gotten worse and once it gets worse you need to do something extreme to stop it. In this case I would've had to kick her out and like I said, this girl wouldn't last a night out there. As it has been stated here many times: political correctness is bullshit. Sometimes you gotta tell it like it is.

            [–]svogliate 16 points17 points  (0 children)

            You see she's actually pretty chill and I know she is a woman was just upset about losing her studio and taking it out on me by being a cunt

            FTFY. Nice frame hold, btw. Enjoy the rewards.

            [–]MasonJarTeaDrinker 3 points4 points  (1 child)

            It's the truth, you gotta take care of business. Just the other day I asked my girl if it was cool if I smoked in her car, she said yes, then the next day she was having a bad day and text me all upset that her car smelled like smoke and it was giving her a head ache. She proceeded to tell me that It was my fault that it was like that and blah blah blah. I just told her, "You said it was fine to smoke in your car so I did, now get Over it", she text me "You gave me no choice". Then I proceeded with radio silence, an hour later she text me something totally different and didn't even bring it up again, proceeded to buy me some beers and dinner that night as well.

            Holding Frame works wonders, in the past I would have kissed ass and said that I was sorry as she proceeded to scorn me for something stupid.

            [–]elchoma90[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            Yes. Once you learn confrontation can be for the better, ie stop being a pussy, everything works out in the end.

            [–]HeadingRed 29 points30 points  (4 children)

            Can't tell you how many times I have heard something similar to that. And the old idiot me would then bring out a very reasonable and nuanced explanation as to how that was not the case, what should happen etc. etc.

            It's amazing how well "no" works. Solves problems, everybody happy.

            [–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion 53 points54 points  (3 children)

            Never over-explain yourself. A real area a lot of BP guys fall short is they often cede authority and throw in compromise for no real reason whatsoever. A woman is throwing a tantrum and he immediately becomes her sycophantic pacifier. Even when he manages to say no, he devolves into explaining to her endlessly why. To this shit-test, that is as half-way as bad as failing. Let me explain using the OP why that is a wrong way to handle things.

            The woman in the OP is a cliche example of asserting power. She is being demanding. Irrationally, with seemingly nothing to back it up(mostly its just the leveraging the pull of pussy), and trying to side-line whatever right to authority he has(in this case, giving her a rent free apartment). When you over-explain, your mistake is in acknowledging her authority. In this case, you have no reason to. You're likely doing it because you value pussy(like the nerd who does her homework) or you're a pushover who just caves in a futile attempt to keep her calm. Basically, you fail to ask yourself why the fuck you should.

            The proper response is to treat her exactly like her behavior deserves. In this case, like a child.

            [–]HeadingRed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I have been very guilty of this in the past. I kept on trying different approches to the same thing- like when a candidate looses an election and blames "just not delivering the message right" rather than the content itself.

            I have done the wildly apologetic, the angry-nuclear-let's throw down and pretty much everything in between. What has created peace and harmony in my current LTR is keeping it short and not making threats or promises I won't keep.

            I used to think that as long as I was not apologizing and begging for 4 hours I was being strong- that by yelling, fighting and going ballistic I would finally get my point across and get treated fairly. And I thought that by throwing down I would be able to take the mantle of leadership and own the day.

            Over explaining in the end leads to a situation where you make a larger investment than her. It's like you going "all in" with 5k and she puts 20$ in the pot.

            [–]esco_ -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

            Was OP really over-explaining? He admittedly said two lines of text to her in that whole exchange. Two sentences.

            [–]Dark triad expert: - - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 16 points17 points  (0 children)

            He's not talking about the op, he's talking directly to the guy he replied to who said:

            Can't tell you how many times I have heard something similar to that. And the old idiot me would then bring out a very reasonable and nuanced explanation as to how that was not the case, what should happen etc. etc.

            [–]smile_e_face 9 points10 points  (1 child)

            The whole exchange reminds me of the one between Tywin and Joffrey in Game of Thrones: "You are being counseled at this very moment." Well done.

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              [–]elchoma90[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

              Agreed. I use to fall for it all the time. Now I see right through it.

              [–]RedPillScare 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              OP did fuck the shelter puppy face the next morning.

              [–]milesray3000 8 points9 points  (0 children)

              Hahaha I love the transition between the first and the second paragraph !

              Frame held like a boss ! Well done!

              [–]Dark triad expert: - - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

              Bitches ship sinks like leonardo stole the lifeboat, you do a good deed and let her jump on your ship (dat female privilege tho) and she has the tenacity to bitch like an entitled cunt.

              "well by now you should know how to deal with me, if you don't you need to learn" in that bitchy tone we all know. I looked her dead in the eye and after the silence got her to feel awkward I told her "I am dealing with you... What did you think I was doing when I told you to behave or GTFO?" She just stood there with that shelter puppy face waiting for me to crack, after a couple seconds she said in a low tone "oh..."

              Shit test passed.

              [–]PersianVino 7 points8 points  (7 children)

              I'm still relatively new to TRP, but this is alarmingly similar to how I treat my little niece when she gets out of line.

              Am I wrong to think that adult women haven't changed much from childhood?

              [–]elchoma90[S] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

              You're not. Women never grow up. They stay 15 forever. The world doesn't expect them to so they don't.

              [–]gonjinetik 4 points5 points  (2 children)

              I like to think of them as "the most responsible teenager in the house"

              [–]cjmay13 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              Sometimes it feels more like "the least responsible teenager in the house", what with all the years of built up validation. Either way though, good point.

              [–]gonjinetik 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Its the nature of women, they need a man to teach them. Men are the only ones who can set standards and keep them. Women are very relative in morality (like children), and their standard will waver and move with their feelings. They rationalize this based on how they feel.

              When we hold them accountable, they suddenly love us more, not less.

              [–]digitalmentat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Think about it, if you coddle children without boundaries what happens? What's been happening to women in our society? Society (bps) is coddling them.

              They aren't used to boundary setting and behavior management.

              [–]rp_divorced 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              My ex is >40 and acts like she's 13. As a result of my alimony, her income is equal to mine but she still expects me to pay for things for the kids in a greater percentage than her.

              Between daddy and me, she's never had to fend for herself so I know I'll have to deal with her entitlement the rest of my life. So yes, it's like dealing with a child no matter how old they are.

              [–]elchoma90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Ouch. I swear if that ever happens I'm moving overseas and changing my name.

              [–]idontwantaredditacct 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              hold your frame - get anal

              red pill bitch

              [–]DistanceSkater 11 points12 points  (1 child)

              You know she probably botched your macros right? Jokes on you OP

              [–]elchoma90[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

              Goddammit... She's probably feeding me syrup in my sleep too.

              [–]GenuineBPA 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              hit your macro thingys brah mirin

              [–]Keninishna 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              bish is tryin to ruin your gainz dont mess with the macroz

              [–]1Zanford 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              TRP has been great this week, some very strong 'holding frame and getting the bitch' anecdotes. I love the way you turned it around on her - "this IS me dealing with you".

              [–]gonjinetik 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              This story made my day better thanks for sharing. Much respect to you for holding a standard over her and making her adapt to your authority.

              [–]tabber87 5 points6 points  (5 children)

              I don't understand this generation's obsession with assfucking...

              [–]Glenbert 0 points1 point  (4 children)

              LOL. Was just about to start a thread on the same topic. Tried it once (with a girl I didn't care about), way too much work.

              [–]squirrelcuisine 8 points9 points  (3 children)

              LOL funny story. Your story sounds like horseshit but I like it. I am kind of interested in where this story goes long term. Imma flag you as friend so I can see your subsequent posts. You might have broken this steed or she is going to go nuts on you one day. Im dying to find out how this goes.

              [–]elchoma90[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

              She's a nice sweet girl who was having menstruation like symptoms due to losing her studio. But yeah you never know with women... I took the necessary precautions to avoid any problems so I think it'll be fine. She's out in a week BTW maybe two if it pleases me.

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                [–]PersianDj 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                If this actually works on women , I 'd rather hire high priced escorts.

                [–]elchoma90[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                In women you have been fucking for a while it does

                [–]phishyfingers 3 points4 points  (7 children)

                If she stays living with you then she's played you.

                Women, like a jujitsu fighter, will work from her back to win.

                If she stays with you long enough the power shifts back to her via common law marriage and she knows it.

                Get her out before its too late.

                [–]elchoma90[S] 16 points17 points  (3 children)

                Chill it's only been a day. I gave her a week and I plan to follow through.

                [–]phishyfingers 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                "Even the best laid plans of mice and men often go awry" or in this case, the best laid plate...

                I will look forward to hearing an update concerning her departure.

                [–]elchoma90[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                Nah she's a sweet girl she acted like this out of frustration I'm sure. I prepared for the worst anyway by not letting her bring anything but a bag with essentials she kept all her shit elsewhere and of course she's not on the lease I can call security to escort her out in the worst case scenario. I'll give an update if something interesting goes down.

                [–]gonjinetik 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                " I prepared for the worst anyway by not letting her bring anything but a bag with essentials she kept all her shit elsewhere"

                -Smart thinking

                [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                Common law marriage doesn't work that way. In order for a common law marriage to be valid both parties must present themselves publicly as husband/wife.

                [–]vox_veritas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                If she stays with you long enough the power shifts back to her via common law marriage and she knows it.

                It doesn't work that way. Stop trying to play Internet lawyer.

                [–]polysyllabist 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Jesus. You guys take to bed some really sketchy folks. Some entitled evicted girl with no manners?

                To what end? Is sex really that hard to come by?

                [–]elchoma90[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Sex is only hard if you cherry pick. If she's hot I'm fucking her end of story. She is super sweet BTW but put yourself in her shoes you are a young girl (19) far from home who just got evicted from your studio. OFC she was gonna act immaturely. She spoke those words out of frustration you see? She wanted to be coddled like daddy used to but I ain't daddy. That's all.

                [–]OG-Wyze 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                It feels like I just finished reading a beautiful piece of poetry. Well played sir, well played.

                From her reaction it appears like she just realized that you're a man to be taken seriously. That if she doesn't shape up in terms of behavior you will kick her out without hesitation. You're obviously not some beta bitch that's just going to bend to her will and accommodate her, it is her who will need to be flexible in order to accommodate you.

                From what you've described this is the psychological insight I can provide. Once again, beautiful.

                [–]PersianDj 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Women enjoy dominance! They like when a guy takes charge, makes decision for them! But not all the fucking time.

                If u do this, she'll suffocate .She wont leave you but she'll become your emotional slave with nothing to offer of her own individuality, and you'll start hating her.

                The main key is ' balance' .Don't be an asshole all the time,don't be nice all the time ,keep changing gears. You both have to accept the ugly unattractive sides of each other.

                You need to show vulnerability once in a while & If u actually think she'll leave you after the first sign of weakness you show, you are dumb as shit for starting a relationship with her .

                [–]lmpostor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                I think I'm going to put that in a quote photo for my phone wallpaper.

                [–]demilitarizdsm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                That is some excellent rent. How long a stay will you let it cover?

                [–]idontcareifyouburyme 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                This isn't your ex-wife, is it? Elaborate on the relationship.

                [–]elchoma90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Nah some girl from the gym we've been seeing each other for a while now she's chill she was just having a bad day.

                [–]KissTheBridesmaid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                If this chick only knew the extent to which her turd is being analysed on the internets...

                [–]The_Psychopath 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                Kick her out so she can appreciate what it feels like to NOT live on the streets.

                [–]elchoma90[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I'm a good person. I won't put anyone on the streets, specially a woman who wouldn't last a day without getting gang raped. That being said I'm not a nice guy either so after next weekend she better find somewhere else to crash.

                [–]Mrswhiskers 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                We had anal sex for the first time that night and next morning I was woken up by a blowjob.

                That's just disgusting. I mean, good for you if it's true, but that's disgusting.

                [–]elchoma90[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                You realize that's just but an opinion? I like tossing salad too if it grosses you out well that sucks for you for not being able to please women as much as "disgusting" men as me ;)

                [–]rp_divorced 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                There's nothing like seeing a woman react to the first time you lick her ass. There's the initial shock and then they realize how good it feels. Anyone who doesn't do it is missing the easiest way to set yourself apart from every other guy. I'd rather be "disgusting" than "average".