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[–]LAMFF 665 points666 points  (28 children)

Cheers to all my sexless, misogynistic, racist, basement dwelling loser friends. May the effervescent orange glow of Cheetos dust highlight our neck beards forever.

[–]Endorsed Contributortepper2 261 points262 points  (6 children)

May your fedora stay forever tipped, and your neckbeard untrimmed, sir.

[–]LAMFF 73 points74 points  (4 children)

And yours as well, good sir. Quickly tips fedora and tries to hide neck beard trimmer under empty pizza boxes.

[–]rondiculous 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Cheers. raises large Taco Bell cup filled with ice cold Mountain Dew

[–]Verlier 44 points45 points  (2 children)

Cheers to you M'LAMFF, I tip the fedora to your general direction.

[–]LAMFF 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Hahaha, don't even have a witty retort because I'm cracking up so much.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (2 children)

You take that back. Bitches be trippin' all over themselves for my neck-beard.

[–]LAMFF 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Then get spicy with a smattering of Chili Lime Cheetos dust. The bitches will thank you.

[–]foldpak111 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Brb ordering pizza with soundboard

Brb lowering money in a bucket from the second floor to pizza guy

[–]Endorsed Contributortepper2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There's no second floor in your parent's basement, shitlord!

[–]t21spectre 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Like myself, I hope to see many of you Gentlesirs also featured on /r/justneckbeardthings

[–]1redpillbanana 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Cheers to you and long live your lordship over your shit domain.

[–]through_a_ways 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I wish you a fortuitous führership over faeces.

[–]ryche513 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You know what, I had a history professor who was a fat, neck bearded stoner. He would come to class half the time stoned off his ass with cheeto dust on his sweater vest, giving his lecture to only forget half way through what he was talking about. But by God was he alpha as fuck. His confidence was through the damn roof. He had to have fucked at least half the chicks in his rotation of classes because they all swooned over him with their panties dripping whenever his name was mentioned.

[–]NakedAndBehindYou 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Personally I always preferred Salt & Vinegar chips myself...

[–]2Axotl 44 points45 points  (5 children)

People already commenting that they're only subscribing ironically.

[–]bold_algorithm 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There's some wisdom in these discussions that you can't find in other venues, and it can be refreshing. There's also stuff that I find silly, mostly as a matter of taste.

I like the idea of a positive identity for men, and acknowledging some of the weird psychological stuff that our culture uses to bring us down.

I also read the /r/Libertarian subreddit sometimes, even though I disagree with a lot of stuff they say. If you only read stuff that you totally agree with, then you must be a beta male!

lol

[–]Macbeth554 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Well, to be fair, there are those of us who only subscribe to see what........interesting things this place has to say.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh yes. I'm always waiting for someone to make an........insightful post.

[–][deleted] 104 points105 points  (31 children)

Even at 80,000 subscribers TRP's dissenters will continue to bash us to uphold their life experience and beliefs. A lot of beta men have never been on the other end of the SMV scale to accept the truths of TRP.

How many have been able to meet a girl and fuck her within an hour of meeting her while she has a boyfriend back at home? Then being in bed and watch her text or call their boyfriend afterwards like nothing just happened. Then seeing her stay with that dude for MONTHS after your hookup with no indication of remorse or guilt. How many low SMV men have had girls asking them to hangout with the full intention of fucking while her boyrfriend's not with her?

A lot of these low SMV men simply lack the experience to see women's hypergamous, selfish, nature. And women simply hamster away their behavior by saying things like they didn't get enough attention, he wasn't around, or whatever excuse she could make to not be the bad person in their own mind.

When society upholds women as pure and innocent, it is hard to accept that is not true; especially when you have no firsthand experience of seeing women's behavior when they're being disloyal or whoreish.

Thankfully, TRP has lifted the blinders off for many people and can allow people to discuss and adjust accordingly.

[–]Hoodwink 41 points42 points  (13 children)

How many have been able to meet a girl and fuck her within an hour of meeting her while she has a boyfriend back at home? Then being in bed and watch her text or call their boyfriend afterwards like nothing just happened. Then seeing her stay with that dude for MONTHS after your hookup with no indication of remorse or guilt. How many low SMV men have had girls asking them to hangout with the full intention of fucking while her boyrfriend's not with her?

For awhile, I thought this only happened with me in college because I was testing various strategies out. But then, I saw more and more of it and figured it was absolutely endemic because of the way women functionally can have sex at any time they want and they have negligible refractory period. An environment of free and available sex at any time changes people. (It also made me realize some of the paranoid girls who want to see your phone all the time were not paranoid, but had the assumption that the genders had the same availability of sex.)

Seriously, women will have sex with one 'friend' then will go fuck their boyfriend. It's just amazed me at the time. I thought it was a fluke here or there. I got mad. Then I accepted it.

Also, you look at shows in the media in entirely new ways. And then you finally realize why you have all the christian revivalism in the US... it's a social reactionary movement to women. For a long time as an atheist nerd I couldn't understand how some of the smarter adults I knew could support it. It also makes sense since it blew up after the hippies, etc.

[–]prodigyx 13 points14 points  (1 child)

some of the paranoid girls who want to see your phone all the time were not paranoid, but had the assumption that the genders had the same availability of sex

This is a great realization. I never thought of it this way but it makes so much sense.

[–]pissoutofmyass 25 points26 points  (9 children)

As an atheist nerd

I'm atheist as well, but I think religion is beneficial psychologically for women and socially for men, especially where is teaches restraint and delayed gratification.

[–]1Modified_Hackware 17 points18 points  (0 children)

You can see TRP's soft power coursing through the responses in /relationships /sex /askwomen etc.

[–]animalpoo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Agreed and here's why.

I was in my last year of university, attractive , was on the rugby team , was the most in shape guy in my uni , was getting straight As, very popular ; arguably an amazing catch for any girl.

Met a girl, she convinced me into a LTR. Finished uni, became homeless for a few weeks , couldn't get a career started and had to rely on minimum wage jobs. Stressful period in my life, pretty much went from being top dog in my community and then I hit the real world and became the lowest denominator. Caught her texting an unattractive small guy , you could assume he was no competition for myself . Inviting him over to watch films together, also caught her on tinder . I noped out of that one . She rationalised it as me not giving her enough attention and it being my fault, and that she was drunk. Basically it can happen to anyone.

Don't feel bad for me though, I've recently been perusing a girl in an LTR with a footballer as a BF (she came onto me). As soon as he fucks up, she gets lonely , or however else she wants to hamster it I'll probably be fucking her.

The only thing you can do is make sure you're the hotest shit around and make you the standard that every other guy now has to live up to.

[–]gimmetrp 3 points4 points  (4 children)

How many have been able to meet a girl and fuck her within an hour of meeting her while she has a boyfriend back at home? Then being in bed and watch her text or call their boyfriend afterwards like nothing just happened. Then seeing her stay with that dude for MONTHS after your hookup with no indication of remorse or guilt.

With TRP I've seen some success and I'm generally much happier now. I am a bit new though, and part of me is still caught in Denial about hypergamy. I believe it exists, but haven't yet had the "catalyst experience" (like being the one a girl cheats with, etc) to really tip me over the edge. I want to know for myself how deep the hypergamy-rabbithole actually goes.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (2 children)

its fucking DEEP. I was at a girl's place while her boyfriend was at work because she invited me over to watch a television show we were both fond of.

This bitch had ONE can of beer and then pretended to be drunk so that she would have no agency as she climbed on my dick and rode me while saying nonstop "cum in me daddy". You know what i learned that day?

  1. Women will find any excuse and opportunity to hypergame

  2. Women will not hesitate to lie to men that they "love" to fuck the men that they want.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Hope you wrapped it up, "Daddy."

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Nope. Wouldn't be the first time I made a dumb mistake.

Luckily nothing came out of that but a good time and some beta male butthurt later (so...a good time).

[–]foldpak111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's just sad that beta males actually think that is life.

[–]dontlikemyfire 79 points80 points  (140 children)

Brings up an interesting thought. What happens when TRP breaks into the top 300? Top 200? Top 100? Do you think the hatred will intensify as TRP becomes more and more popular? Or, as more people begin to understand and follow TRP, will it become more accepted?

[–]100 Modbsutansalt 95 points96 points  (16 children)

Our views ARE becoming more accepted and slowing spreading into reddit's culture and in general really. People are wising up to the shit test feminism represents and the double standards it promotes and are finally calling the radicals out on their BS. Look at gamergate. They didn't roll over and in fact fought back when feminists tried to infiltrate their culture and change it from within.

[–]BluepillProfessor 58 points59 points  (7 children)

Let me say it again: From the spark shall come the flame.

We are winning this argument, mostly because we are right.

[–]ColdEiric 23 points24 points  (0 children)

We are winning this argument, mostly because we are right.

Don't forget that we do not concede to the opposition.

Being right wouldn't matter, if we do not do 'the right thing'. To know that lifting is useful, but never going to the gym and never lifting the damn weights, that doesn't do shit for your body or your health.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

We are winning this argument, mostly because we are right.

We win this argument because it's not an argument. It's a method for getting results. Results = no need for argument. TRP is a how-to manual, not a philosophical debate.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Because we are MEN. And as MEN we demonstrate, not explicate. Women talk, men DO. That's why feminism is an ideology, a collection of "should". TRP is empirical, a collection of "is."

[–]17 Endorsed ContributorJP_Whoregan 21 points22 points  (3 children)

TRP will become more widespread; even if not in literal name, men will just start instinctively following this path, whether they realize it or not. Why? Open Hypergamy. As women become less and less coy about their actual strategies, as they become more shameless about it, men will instinctively wise up.

The last half century they've been able to straddle the line between AF/BB by hiding the alpha fux desires to dupe the beta bux men out of their cash and prizes. But now, they're so confident that the strategy is bulletproof, they feel no need to hide it anymore.

But they, I believe, underestimate the pragmatism of the average, rational man. Even men that don't adopt TRP fully will still come to realize they're getting the raw end of a shitty deal with post-wall women. They may not ever do anything to adapt to the new reality, but they will eventually shut off the BB spigot.

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[–]100 Modbsutansalt 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You see RP advice popping up all over the place and it often gets upvoted. It's only when you point out it's RP advice that people lose their shit over it.

[–]foldpak111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That link is the harsh reality. Women always leave you for tall dark and handsome...

[–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feminism is killing itself, man. That harassment vid cinches it.

Hell, all you need to do is get that OKCupid dating experiment to go viral. Not obese girl = 9999999999 messages every day. Once men as a whole start to realize that, they'll learn to ration their validation.

[–]doubleknee24 102 points103 points  (46 children)

The noise to signal ratio will increase. All you will read on here is more about hate and less about improving yourself.

[–]gqtrees 50 points51 points  (9 children)

i just hope trp doesn't end up like r/seduction where 19 year olds are giving 30 year olds advice....

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    [–]gqtrees 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    yea all the cudos to our young bucks who are learning game and fixing their life. But I agree, maybe someone can branch trp game into 25+ or something. I don't mean to be rude, I just feel I can relate more to guys who have had as much life experience as me. There is just no way a 19 year old has had enough experience to tell a 29/30 year old what hes doing wrong/right. Heck they are barely experienced enough to tell the older guys what kinds of beers are good and bad...

    hope the mods take notice and kind of create a subsection for the older folks, so stuff is not lost as this sub grows.

    [–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    That almost reads as a troll post. The responses are more cringeworthy than the post, IMO

    [–]Hysterics7787 5 points6 points  (3 children)

    That's how I felt while looking through /r/sex

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      [–]heist_of_saint_graft 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Can't get the theme song out of my head now.

      [–]1Dev_on 22 points23 points  (17 children)

      yup. I always hate seeing a sub I subscribe to turn to shit.

      Used to happen at the 50k mark, but in the past few years, it's closer to 100k when signal becomes too much, or mods become hated for keeping it together.

      I really hope this goes askscience direction, and not /r/atheism or something similar

      [–]Embracing_the_Pain 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      Actually I'm hoping it goes the way of AskHistorians. They keep that sub locked up very tight.

      [–]1Dev_on 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      oh forgot about them, they and ask science are a gem in the shit that is reddit lately

      [–]Garl_Vinland 17 points18 points  (4 children)

      I think going with text submissions only will help keep it down. The low effort posts that ruin most subs as they grow aren't allowed anymore.

      [–]1IVIaskerade 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      People are just submitting the link instead of text now.

      The mods might be vigilant in nuking most of them, but they're still happening.

      [–]usul1628 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      I just blanket report these every time I see them in the new tab. They all get deleted quickly

      [–]1IVIaskerade 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      If you PM a mod it usually gets deleted faster.

      [–]KingoftheAssholes 4 points5 points  (8 children)

      Um only been on reddit for a year and half what happen to /r/atheism?

      [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 15 points16 points  (4 children)

      It grew by leaps and bounds, became a default sub, everyone bitches about it, then it became r/adviceanimals with an atheist twist having predominantly memes and stupid pics rather than discussion. The mods decided to make sweeping changes, and membership fell a bit and content remained lackluster at best.

      Then we got atheism + which was atheist being harnessed by feminists, who then tried to get Hitchens and Dawkins to join them by trying to shame them. Look up elevatorgate, but the crux of it is this stupid bitch was asked to coffee in an elevator by an unattractive beta, and she blew it up like the catcalling video.

      [–]jelloba 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      I really miss pre-jij /r/atheism. Those were the glory days of the copypasta. Now, the sub only show up on SRD around twice a year.

      [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Yeah it was cool four years ago, last year it went to shit fast. I wasn't around five years ago.

      [–]wtfdizzy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      It became filled with a lot of bigoted posts about how stupid religious people and religion in general is. For a very long time, due to its size, it was a default sub. Then the reddit mods kicked it from that list, probably due to the shit that was being posted there.

      You can see a similar happening now with /r/tifu. Since becoming a default sub, there has been an onslaught of garbage posts that bring down the overall quality of the community. It used to be a lot of funny stories about how people did something ridiculously stupid and suffered the hilarious consequences for it. Now it's all about how people had sex and regretted it.

      [–]1IVIaskerade 15 points16 points  (1 child)

      Stricter mods. I support a no-second-chances policy, because if you can't take the time to read the sidebar and stickied posts, you shouldn't be posting anyway.

      [–]elevul 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      A simple buffer period before being able to post would be very useful, like /r/steroids did.

      [–]dontlikemyfire 3 points4 points  (6 children)

      Well I guess if it ever gets to that kind of size, there will have to be more subs under TRP, much like AskTRP. But if TRP ever has that problem (i.e., so many users that it needs to focus and split up content), there will be good and bad consequences.

      It's probably a naive hope that if a larger percentage of guys swallowed TRP (not a majority but at least a decent percentage), people in general would have a more difficult time dismissing it as fringe. Maybe we're better off in the darkness.

      [–]doubleknee24 4 points5 points  (5 children)

      Possibly. I found this place at 48k and the front page would still have posts from previous days. Now, every time I check this page it is filled with new posts. New content is fine but with waves of new people, all you see if topics of women hate and hypergamy.

      [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 12 points13 points  (3 children)

      Those are the starting points. Guys get cheated on, are rightfully pissed about it, and discover why. They find out AWALT and hypergammy is something that drives it. The only cure to hypergammy is being the best all the fucking time, that takes months or years of hard work to achieve.

      So when we get a large influx of guys who realize they've been lied to their entire lives, they express it here. It's not the best system, but it works even if it's annoying to the long timers.

      [–]foldpak111 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      They need to come here to vent, or else we'll see more Elliot Rodger cases popping up. It may be annoying, but these guys need to let it out to people that actually care.

      [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Fucking eh. The shitty part is nobody in their lives will care, or if they do they won't be able to tell them anything positive to do about it.

      [–]Iupvoteforknowledge 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      The problem is there is core knowledge and you can only reiterate so many times. RP knowledge is thousands of years old.

      [–]InferiousX 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Hopefully won't become like the seduction subreddit. Bunch of guys hi-fiving each other because they said "hi" to strange girl this week.

      [–]1Jaereth 41 points42 points  (29 children)

      Do you know the term "The silent majority" that people use in politics? Like the candidate that gets the most hype in the media surprisingly loses the election? It was because the majority of voters don't run around and be loudmouths about their affiliations. They just go vote.

      I believe the hate that's all over reddit for TRP is the "vocal minority". They are by no means the most prevalent opinion, just the loudest.

      If this sub ever gets done in, it will be the reddit admins doing it all sneakily. This is why we shouldn't do too much in other subs. Once it gets big enough that some media outlet catches it.

      Think about it. The way people who don't agree with our ideas here try to talk about it, they make it sound like TRP encourages a guy to go home and beat his wife to a bloody pulp then rape the shit out of her until he's had his fill, then lock her in her cage and go out to the bar to find another rape victim. When these people drum up enough hysteria and start presenting these things as fact,(and imagine that, there's already subs dedicated to hating this one) there will be no "fact checking". If it gets out to the media, it will work just like that Zoe Quinn stuff.

      The narrative the detractors present will be reported as fact by tryhard journalists trying to come up fast, and the sub will probably be sterilized by the admins. I mean what we are talking about here is true, no doubt about it. However, I don't think it will be tolerated forever. Eventually this community will need to go off reddit.

      [–]TheSKSpecial 23 points24 points  (19 children)

      They tried to pin Elliot Rodger on us and it didn't work.

      [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 40 points41 points  (4 children)

      We would've gotten the boy laid.

      [–]NAmember81 22 points23 points  (12 children)

      I found this sub through the Elliot Rodgers hate fest. And after I read the sidebar I thought Rodgers was the exact opposite of RP ideology. He seemed like a deranged beta that didn't ever hear RP philosophy. I think if that kid would have learned some basic things from this sub he could have learned how to function properly in today's society without going off the deep end.

      [–]Hoodwink 17 points18 points  (5 children)

      He was on anti-PUA sites. So, if he saw the TheRedPill he would have raged.

      [–]gstvtrp 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      PUAHate is a site that is anti-PUA because the truth is a lot of fucking PUAs are scam artists. They actually do real exposure of how PUAs scam and provide evidence.

      The whole PUA scene is a scam meant to screw over customers. All their advice comes down to is "approach a lot of women".

      [–]1KyfhoMyoba 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      All their advice comes down to is "approach a lot of women".

      And that STILL is enough to improve the lives of the vast majority of men.

      [–]Hoodwink 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      The PUA scene has turned into something pretty on point with some stuff like RSDNation. And "Mystery" had some points as well in some of his early clown acts.

      It's not all scams, but there are definite 'misses' in the scene. And some scammers who don't know what they're talking about.

      [–]NAmember81 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      That's interesting. I could see how he could hate the PUA thing if he was as socially awkward as the reports claim. But TRP is completely different in my mind, it addresses the general nature of power dynamics and gives you an understanding of society so you can have long term success and happiness. But with PUA stuff it's great for short term game but my problem with that was once I had success it went to shit because I actually then had to be around the girl more often and I couldn't embody the PUA stuff for weeks on end and I would slowly go back to behaving the way my parents, employers and women wanted me to behave and I would get chewed up, spit out and smeared into the ground and left to wonder where it all went wrong.

      If Rodgers was poor and in the underclass I could better understand his insanity but he was from a wealthy family and had bad ass vehicles that even the most socially retarded betas would have no problem picking up girls in. Maybe he had so many issues he couldn't cope, one being he may have been a homosexual and didn't know how to handle it. He would rant more about men and focus on them more than he did women.

      I'm just an armchair psychologist so this is all speculation.

      [–]Hoodwink 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I think the main problem with the kid was he didn't know how to joke around because no one ever joked around with him.

      He was also fixated on getting sex through love rather than showing off his car or taking girls to Hollywood premieres (seriously, dude's father was a director I think - Hunger Games if I'm not mistaken - you can see him on the red carpet premiere).

      [–]1johnnight 9 points10 points  (4 children)

      Elliot was so close. He almost radiated alpha zen on his last video, because that was the moment he stopped caring and stopped being neurotic and insecure about his flaws. If only he took that confidence into approaching and not into killing.

      In his previous videos where he asked what was wrong with him, he was very effeminate. His body language was all wrong. His MAJOR flaw was projecting what he was attracted to (femininity) on himself.

      That's like the number one mistake people make: imitating what you like. Guys trying hard to be nice and cute. Girls trying hard to be rude and confident. It's all wrong, because it's the masculine and feminine opposites that attract.

      [–]through_a_ways 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      That's like the number one mistake people make: imitating what you like. Guys trying hard to be nice and cute. Girls trying hard to be rude and confident. It's all wrong, because it's the masculine and feminine opposites that attract.

      This is one of the "core" TRP truths that I often mention, and I think I've never seen it explicitly mentioned by someone else. Congrats.

      The other is that females invest more biological energy into reproduction. Not just pregnancy, which is what most people here talk about, but also lactation, bird/reptile/fish egg production, gamete production, fruit production, etc. Males and females have been fundamentally different in the same way for well over 1 billion years, or over a quarter of the earth's life.

      [–]NAmember81 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Good observation. That feeling when you give up completely and live in the immediate present and the internal non stop chattering inside the skull stops and you embrace full confidence in your actions with no hesitation and no fucks given is one of the best feelings in the world.

      But I guess if you are delusional and get that feeling out of nowhere and you aren't prepared you can end up like Elliot. Just imagine if you embodied that feeling and lowered your heart rate and just went to the bar with that don't give a fuck attitude. You would have chicks wanting to know what it is you're about right when you step foot in the building.

      When I was in jail I would meditate every day for hours and when I got out I had that attitude and in my mind I didn't even want anyone to talk to me but I went out the girls were all over me. Ha, I must have just oozed some sort of magical don't give a fuck mojo.

      [–]foldpak111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      It's that feeling when doing a 10x10 back squat session. The last 4 sets you get into idgaf mode. It's amazing.

      [–]foldpak111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      He's a guy that unknowingly took the red pill and couldn't handle it.

      [–]a_nus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I wonder what would've happened if Eliot was subscribed to TRP yet still did what he did. Even if he didn't actively browse the sub, if anyone found a connection between a killer and TRP, shit would hit the fan. It's bound to eventually happen given the growth. Some lunatic stuck in the hate stage will twist RP ideals and do some crazy shit. Even if there's no direct link, reporters will give up a nut trying to link whatever happened to TRP. Akin to violence and videogames.

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        [–]southernfriedcode 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        People forget just how globally connected we are these days. That video of the chick walking in NYC went around the world. Other societies are getting a good look at exactly what a western female is, and most of them aren't going to like it.

        [–]tehwankingwalruses 2 points3 points  (5 children)

        I think you are partially right but the voting thing doesn't hold up. There is a vocal minority but they are voted up, instead of the silent majority downvoting them.

        [–]1Jaereth 12 points13 points  (3 children)

        Subs are just echo chambers, like it or not.

        If I went into /r/atheism and made a post like "20 reasons why we can prove THERE IS NO GOD" it will be upvoted to oblivion.

        Likewise, if I go into /r/politics and post "20 reasons why Obama is the WORST PRESIDENT EVER" it will probably never be seen it will be downvoted so fast.

        And just being a realist here, even comments in TRP that may just be playing devils advocate for the sake of discussion, are downvoted heavily too. Subs have their own culture and if you want to comment there and actually have your opinion seen, you better tow the goddamn line.

        So we have this culture, that's going to happen anywhere it's possible to cast a "vote". However, the "default subreddit" system, there's where the power lies. Why don't they just make the subs with the top 50 highest subscriber count be defaults? Because that front page is definitely engineered to present an image. The ideas expressed here, however innocuous they are in actuality, are definitely not part of it.

        tl;dr - The vocal minority are not as popular as they would seem looking at the whole landscape of reddit. They just fit into the image that the site is trying to portray and sometimes end up in the content fastlane because of it.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        Well said. It's always tempting to make a "women are bitches" reply just to get some easy bro-votes and validation. What keeps me coming back are intelligent viewpoints, such as yours, that add a new layer of complexity to this Borg collective we're assimilating.

        [–]alucard4571 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        I always viewed this sub as a space where people who could connect the dots without looking away were free to discuss what they found. Where correlation without causation was not decried as sexism but as a data point with a cause behind it that should be found.

        The world is both light and dark, from the perspective of an individual. There is a difference between those who accept the reality of what they consider dark and seek to integrate it into their worldview to come away with a model that makes useful predictions. Those who cannot, lock down the discussion of their stomping grounds to avert their eyes.

        To me this place is one of the few where Realz > Feelz. To me, that's what this sub is really all about.

        [–]wuy3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        because half of the top 50 subreddits will be porn or NSFW related. Reddit just reflects broader society which hides sex (and other unsightly popular things) behind acceptable stuff. The porn industry was huge but you didn't see it get highlighted in the nightly business news.

        [–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 8 points9 points  (21 children)

        Both. I was reading an askreddit that mentioned us the other day and instead of the burning hatred for us it talked about how we had some really good advice and if we could only get rid of some of our hatred we would be a really good subreddit. Compare that to being worse than everything on reddit such as the incest, beastiality, death, dismemberment etc and I think we've come a long way.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 9 points10 points  (8 children)

        if we could only get rid of some of our hatred

        Not going to happen. Angry young dudes need a place to vent.

        [–]2Axotl 7 points8 points  (2 children)

        Anger phase guys are a necessary evil and I consider it a perfectly normal part of the road to TRP. It's a bit like how you go through all those awkward phases during puberty to become a man.

        [–]southernfriedcode 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        It's also a fantastic reminder of where we all were at one point.

        [–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        I agree. It was definitely what I needed. I can't even describe how amazing it was to find this place and realize I wasn't alone or crazy.

        [–]foldpak111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Agreed. I was on the verge of insanity (on some elliot Rodgers shit) then I saw I was right all along.

        [–]Dreamtrain 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        While it is a necessity, nothing in excess is good, there should definitively be a ceiling for this, due to the quantity of incoming people most people are in the anger phase, one of the problems this can cause is a perception that anger phase is not a phase but a constant of the whole TRP thing, so rather than actually going and doing shit and coming with terms that things are the way they are, people will just perma-anger phase.

        [–]enticingasthatmaybe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Putting a ceiling on someone's anger phase is the exact opposite of offering them a safe place to vent. Think about what you're saying.

        [–]foldpak111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Excessive anger is bad, but excessive controlled anger is the most valuable asset to man. well, for me at least. For me it is the driving force into getting shit done.

        [–]foldpak111 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        I am honestly baffled as to why we get more hate than subs like that. Apparently manipulating some slut into thinking I'm high value and sleeping with me is worse than me sticking my penis in a dead dog or some 40 year old dude raping my little brothers. Shows how selfish women are.

        [–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        We speak against their agenda so we are on the opposing team. The other nastier subs don't directly speak against them so they're fine. It's a very high school mentality where you have loyalty to a team and all opposing teams are bad.

        [–]MickeyRoarick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        First they tame you, then they teach you, then they destroy you.

        [–]Dreamtrain 22 points23 points  (4 children)

        My only problem with this is that lately the sub seems to be less about taking control of your sexual life by self-improvement, proper gaming and understanding the hamster and more about bitching about feminism or evil shit some women do so it will come across that TRP's just about bitching.

        [–]oceanlifetime 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Agreed, I would almost prefer we do away with the bitching posts all together.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Threw you some gold. Best comment in this whole post.

        [–]polysyllabist 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        As the numbers grow, the perception from detractors will not be that perhaps there is something valid here, but rather that the world is filled with more neck bearded woman hating misogynists than they previously thought.

        People by and large see the world as they prefer it. If TRP breaks 100 you can hear the headlines now:

        "Reddit becoming a safe haven for the world's worst misogynists"

        "Proof that the struggle for equality and the fair treatment of women is far from over, the hate-filled message of TRP continues to resonate with impressionable men"

        "Rape culture on the rise, not the decline: why we need to take more drastic action to stop men from their abusive nature"

        [–]Stormtrooper_in_Love 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        I am more worried about bad content and undermining key principals. People talking too much instead of learning and applying.

        [–]MoltenPhoenix 9 points10 points  (4 children)

        Probably TRP will never get to the Top 300. If you look at the "Rank" tab at the metrics, you will see it becomes harder and harder to go up at the rank, and it is stabilizing.

        Thinking about it reminded me my Calculus days...

        [–]100 Modbsutansalt 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        So rank isn't based on size and activity? While we're smaller than /r/mensrights and /r/seduction, we have more than their combined active readers at any given time. For example, right now we're at 880 users while they're at 258 and 245 respectively.

        [–]draketton 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        it's based purely on subscriber count, and the gaps in subscriber count get bigger the higher you go

        [–]dontlikemyfire 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        Yeah I see what you mean. The top 300 are probably all of the generic BS subreddits, devoid of actual substance, like /r/pics or /r/awww.

        [–]tilfes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Only one way to find out.

        [–]1redpillbanana 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        The feminists will say: you don't need TRP, we've already got that covered. Feminism already gives good advice on sexual strategy.

        [–]noteventrying 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        Subreddits have stages in their life.

        In this order: Obscurity, slow growth, community forming and content producing, golden age, extreme growth, decrease in signal to noise ratio, new members completely unfamiliar, default subreddit status, complete decline in quality, little resemblance to the subreddit it was when it was legitimately good, new mods enforce sjw religion, complete abandonment by original members

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I guess it depends who is here to debate and who is just here to see if it's really just a haven for misogynist neckbeards and basement-dwellers.

        [–]1Mikesapien 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        We'll probably splinter. I foresee TRP and TrueTRP in our future.

        [–]Tarn_Delus 55 points56 points  (14 children)

        Not bad for a sub that gets so much hate from anywhere else. It must get some things right after all!

        [–]Chaoticredux 21 points22 points  (1 child)

        I found trp through a post that got on the front page about the worst subreddits , trp came up and the post from the user was so sensationalized that I could automatically detect bullshit. I've been here ever since.

        [–]TheeRyanGrey 6 points7 points  (2 children)

        We have so many lurkers, so many men who read and are afraid to write because that would be the final admission that they've been tricked and lied to.

        To the thousands of you reading, you're here and you come bsck because you wanna be better. Do so. You can do it. You're fucking amazing and you don't even know it.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        I think guys lurk because they struggle to find their inner voice. It's there, but buried under layers of conditioning and compliance to how they're supposed to walk, talk and behave.

        It's a rebellious voice that dares to expose oneself and be different or wrong. Just listing to other free voices here is enough. The important thing is what they bring back to their life - the ability to think, talk and act without crippling inhibition.

        [–]TheeRyanGrey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        The key word is act.

        See, the most powerful tool we poses a here is self sacrifice. Nearly all og us are here because at some point the world and it's machinations won, they beat us down with their endless social conditioning.

        Sharing these stories becomes a recitation, s reminder of the weak men we once were. But we do it because it help others realize they're not alone, and more importantly, helps them realize they can recover. That it's never over.

        This is why lurking must have a finite schedule. It's not enough to attend the meeting, we need your stories, your pain, your suffering, your recovery.

        [–]Zeleon 20 points21 points  (16 children)

        What happened on 2014-06-30?

        [–]TheSKSpecial 40 points41 points  (9 children)

        There was a post at r/EMSK talking about TRP will ruin your life or something like that that made it to the front page.

        EDIT: and the writer of that post decided to create a purple-pill subreddit called PunchingMorpheus.

        [–]5 Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 39 points40 points  (1 child)

        The theme of that subreddit is basically to adhere to all the cliches of /r/relationships - "don't be an abusive Red Pill woman-hater, have an equality relationship, treat all women like unicorns, talk about your problems like adults, get counselling, hurka durka equality."

        How is this working for them? Let's check in on how this community has exploded with growth over the months.

        http://redditmetrics.com/r/PunchingMorpheus

        Oh... how sad.

        [–]Schaawing 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        It's still relatively active which kind of impresses me, but they're on the decline of subscribers because they're alternative to gaming women is to build trustful relationships with them.

        RP subscribers just see that as another pile of bullshit because most of us end up here because we got played by a woman in our past when we used to believe in the words that they're saying.

        [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 21 points22 points  (0 children)

        No such thing as bad press when you're doing something right.

        [–]KingoftheAssholes 3 points4 points  (4 children)

        Wouldn't destroy Zion be a better name because you want to destroy a place fill with people who took the red pill?

        [–]TheSKSpecial 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        The idea was that 'instead of taking the red pill or the blue pill, you punch Morpheus in the face and walk away'.

        [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (2 children)

        If Neo had actually punched Morpheus in the face he would have been found and killed by Agent Smith.

        Their analogy doesn't hold water.

        [–]TheSKSpecial 10 points11 points  (1 child)

        I didn't say it made sense.

        [–]MartialWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        That actually does make a fair amount of sense. Blue Pill and Purple Pill are both disastrous. Red is harder, but at least you can see what's going on around you and have a fighting chance.

        [–]1exit_sandman 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        What happened on 2014-06-30?

        That happened: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DoNotDoThisCoolThing

        [–]doubleknee24 4 points5 points  (2 children)

        Here is the post from r/EMSK

        https://archive.today/4n66w

        [–]EasyChief 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        The first sentence of that post is the best part. Just because women do it to men doesn't mean you can flip it and do it to women!

        [–]Dreamtrain 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Wow, you guys hit the 60k mark during that EMSK thread now you jumped another 20k, who did you piss off this time?

        [–]armenia4ever 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        I love how detractors come on here and accuse us of hating women. I rather like women, I'm just a bit more wise to their ways and how to adjust my game to make their day better.

        In the words of Christina Aguilera, "what a girl wants"... Rp men. Key word, men.

        [–]Jehosh 18 points19 points  (2 children)

        Just subbed this week, and proud.

        [–]FortunateBum 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        I'd just like to say that I think maybe one of the reasons TRP is growing is because so much of Reddit has become anti-free-speech and generally fascistic.

        You come here to TRP, read some posts, and immediately understand that lots of unpopular opinions are tolerated. I doubt TRP mods are constantly banning people and pulling posts for no good reason like what happens in almost every other sub on Reddit.

        Censorship is no good for free expression and I think TRP mods get that. I think. I haven't heard many crazy stories about TRP mods banning people or pulling posts for dumb shit. Hope I'm right about this.

        [–]BorMato 13 points14 points  (6 children)

        As numbers grow and the noise to signal ratio increases, I think this sub will have to move to a format where we do field report threads or BP theory threads or MRA threads instead of individual posts. That way we don't get hunkered down with all the bullshit that comes along with increased popularity.

        I'd actually be ok if this sub just closed itself down so to speak and froze itself. There's enough information and content through the subs history to help any newcomer .

        [–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 12 points13 points  (4 children)

        I'd actually be ok if this sub just closed itself down so to speak and froze itself. There's enough information and content through the subs history to help any newcomer.

        Nah, the conversation is essential. I'm always surprised at the new stuff I keep seeing that sparks more new stuff through subsequent conversation. What's old to you might be new to me, and vice versa.

        The conversation around things like that recent NYC video raise my comprehension of complex social dynamics. When I turn around and speak to someone about such situations, I come across as a fucking genius thanks to this place.

        [–]BorMato 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Good point. Solid moderation is really the only thing we have to keep the sub of high quality .

        [–]alucard4571 4 points5 points  (2 children)

        No joke, explaining this shit to someone who doesn't have context (this guy is a redpiller) is like showing kids pictures of the solar system. Their face just lights up when the dots get connected.

        Funny enough, its harder to get men to agree with it than women. I explain to women and they just nod their heads, then tell me "you're so smart". I explain to blue pill guys and it's like pulling teeth.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Yeah, I've noticed that some guys will turn everything into a dick-measuring contest, and they don't want to give away an inch... Meanwhile, a lot of women just eat it up when you can decipher relationship dynamics better than they can.

        [–]alucard4571 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        HOLY SHIT, if we could just stop the small-dick syndrome we'd be so much further along.

        I usually try to catch that little bastard voice before he starts in, but I find that this is a skill most men have not bothered to develop. I hate having a useful conversation devolve into that crap. You can just watch it go off the rails as two guys stand around waiving their metaphorical pricks at one another while everyone else silently judges them for letting their ego lead the charge. No matter how hard they try, if someone's argument exists only to make their dick look bigger you can actually hear it in their voice. And that's when you decide whether you're gonna watch that crap unfold or push them to do something so nuts they up and leave.

        [–]le_king_falcon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Closing it down doesn't help, but a more rigorous submission process would be ideal.

        [–]Karol754 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        "How does it feel to be part of the most evil subreddit on the whole website?"

        Feels great.

        [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Thank you to the original mod team, endorsed contributors and everyone that keeps adding value to the community. You guys rock and I hope you all live a happy life for the rest of your days.

        [–]LiquidXTC 5 points6 points  (4 children)

        This can only be a bad thing. The more the numbers grow on a sub-reddit the more it loses its original intention. Hope the mods got the banhammer ready and are willing to use it liberally in the coming days when subtle attempts to change the subculture start popping up.

        I've seen it happen to many forums, I see little reason to think it will be any different here. Good luck brothers.

        [–]LibertarianLibertine 7 points8 points  (3 children)

        More Redpillers means more competition, it's much easier to win when you're surrounded by beta fatties that worship women. This news does not make me rejoice.

        [–]Genghis-Brah 9 points10 points  (2 children)

        Without competition you rot and remain weak. It's a good thing, don't be a pussy.

        [–]TankVet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I've always found the hatred for the red pill kind of odd. My experience has been that most people on here are actually moderates with strong convictions, not extremists at all. There's far more bigotry and hate for TRP than there is on here.

        [–]Adrian_mx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Just remember to read and read and read before posting.. Read every fucking thing.

        [–]bigchiefmsu 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        I'm curious to know what the driving force for 1k+ subscribers was on 6-30-2014. I did a brief search for any major news articles but didn't find anything. Any theories brothers (cause data is always beautiful)?

        [–]TheSKSpecial 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Already covered it. There was a post in r/EMSK about "how TRP will ruin your life kill you inside" that hit the front page.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        [–]BlackFallout 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        I want to know what the heck happened on June 30th in that graph.

        [–]chewis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Um. Girl here. You guys are misogynist, and just mad that you can't get laid. I want a guy who will get me flowers, pay for my everything, tell me he loves me at the end of every sentence, and take things slow. Just cause a girl says Yes and seems enthusiastic about an encounter doesn't mean it's not rape. Now excuse me while I fuck this guy who never calls me back.

        EDIT: In all seriousness, my last little fling ended horribly with the girl leaving me for another guy who fucked her good, all because I was taking it slow, telling her I loved her all the time, and just being nice ALL THE TIME. Failed every single shit test. "You think she's prettier than me don't you? "NO I THINK YOU'RE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GIRL I'VE EVER SEEN". My past makes me cringe.

        Swallowed the pill, slowly but surely. I now have some body definition and my current #1 plate is aforementioned girl's best friend. She is nothing short of OBSESSED with me. I handle every shit test, push/pull, and am dominant in the bedroom. I give her an emotional journey. Now old girl has gained a shit ton of weight and is addicted to Xanax and shit and won't leave me alone because her friend keeps telling her great of a time I give her.

        EDIT2: And of course I never say a word back to her.

        [–]logically_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        i honestly think this worries women. The jig is up bitches!

        [–]voomer53 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        Tyler says that if everyone was Red Pill it would be CHAOS...or would then everybody want to be a BETA? I can't envision a scenario where all men approach all women all the time and everyone is having sex whenever they want...maybe that's what he means.... So should we shut this whole thing down before it becomes mainstream?

        [–]stumbles047 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        I personally think the ramifications of men realizing women are massively more promiscuous than we've believed along with the obvious truth of hypergamy, men will begin to abandon traditional relationships altogether. Prostitution will soon follow and then women will be forced to become more traditional again. Religion makes so much more sense to me now. It exists primarily because it is an evolutionary advantage to use guilt to control women's sexuality.

        [–]Elodrian 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        What caused the massive spike at the end of June?

        [–]slcjosh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        If i remember right it was TRP being mentioned in a few other subs.

        [–]ultrasuperthrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Hate is the greatest advertisement

        [–]ThisShitRules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        does reddit make money out of that?

        [–]SladeSampson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        aaaand... 20k instantly decide to be MGTOW!

        [–]Locastor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Subreddit Rank: 378

        On to 200!

        Also, illimitable if you are reading this I would like a better forum feature for puerarchy.com