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[–][deleted] 119 points120 points  (28 children)

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It's funny. If a girl "promises" a guy sex, changes her mind, and he still has sex with her, that is rape. No denying that at all. But if a guy promises a girl 2 children, changes his mind, and she manipulates the situation (stops taking BC without telling him, holes in condoms, etc) so he impregnates her, what do you call that? I'm definitely not condoning rape in any way (even though I KNOW someone will claim I am), but there needs to be equal punishments for sexually manipulative behavior. This is right up there with knowingly giving someone an Std. And yet our society encourages her to do this, blatantly, on cable television.

Wtf...

[–]phant0mpupil[S] 35 points36 points  (5 children)

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You support rape :o?

Haha joking. Yes though I agree, this is literal bull, double standard women are king attitude which is so annoying.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (3 children)

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Haha I read that first line and thought "here we go."

But seriously, could you imagine the outrage if this same situation played out with the male and female roles reversed? What if the husband poked holes in condoms? It would make national headlines and the dude would be shunned forever from society. But somehow women think they are allowed to do things based solely on the fact that they are women. How anyone can support this type of behavior is sickening

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    [–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

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    As he should have been (not that you disagree). And yet here we have Wendy Williams, on cable TV, promoting an obvious crime to the delight of a female audience.

    Ridiculous

    [–]DarkCircle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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    I am sure the argument would be that the woman has to carry the baby to term; as if parenthood ends at birth.

    To get around that the argument I would say, "Imagine if someone forced you to adopt a child against your will. Would that be okay?"

    [–]PrimaxAUS -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

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    No, literal bull is an uncastrated male cow.

    [–]SomeoneBetter 8 points9 points  (17 children)

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    I would be like a guy promising to get a vasectomy and purposely not because he wants a kid. Its fucked.

    [–]strimpboi 16 points17 points  (16 children)

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    This is why men need vasectomies. If they are ready to have a kid, they can have it reversed. Can't fucking wait for that gel stuff.

    [–]SenorPuff 7 points8 points  (2 children)

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    In the interest of general advice, /u/brahs_al_guhl mentioned knowingly giving someone an STD. Vasalgel only stops sperm(and I'm unsure of it's efficacy as a birth control with the current state of research on it). If you're spinning plates, condoms are still a must for STD prevention. Don't let her give you debilitating disease because you aren't committed to her.

    [–]strimpboi 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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    I figured women and condoms went without saying. Guess that was wrong.

    [–]Furyk_Karede 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    Catering to the lowest common denominator mate.

    [–]NeomerArcana 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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    Dude, reversals are not 100% effective. It's a pretty low number if I remember correctly, I can't be bothered looking it up.

    But just so you know. Don't plan on this until you've researched.

    I've also read about men having strange pains in their groins in their latter years after getting a vasectomy in their youth. Consider that vasectomies haven't been around for too long, so it's not a surprise that long term effects are now being thought about (just my opinion).

    [–]Goose_Whistle 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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    Gel stuff?

    [–]MakutaProto 1 point2 points  (5 children)

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    Gel stuff? What gel stuff? This sounds interesting.

    [–]ballahcareum 9 points10 points  (4 children)

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    http://www.newmalecontraception.org/vasalgel/

    Really cool stuff. Basically the opposite charge of sperm, so when sperm passes through the tubes, it zaps the little guys.

    [–]iamthewacokid 5 points6 points  (2 children)

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    The way it sounded to me, it works like a vasectomy. Instead of clipping the tubes like a vasectomy, they inject a polymer gel to clog things up. If you want it reversed, they inject another substance that dissolves the gel.

    [–]selfsufficientnigga 7 points8 points  (1 child)

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    It doesn't clog things up, there are vasectomy alternatives which consist of putting a plug in the tubes.

    Vasalgel coats the inner surface of the tubes, but doesn't plug them. It allows the sperm to pass through, but it disables them while they pass through. This is much better because you don't get any negative effects of vasectomy like sperm buildup in vas deferens (some men get lumps inside the balls)/autoimmune response (when the body disintegrates the sperm which has nowhere else to go).

    [–]iamthewacokid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    Oh. TIL. Thanks for the clarification!

    [–]tonymajin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    Shut up and take my money

    [–]DarkCircle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    Don't men need their wive's permission to get vasectomies? His body his choice???

    [–]ibuprofiend 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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    I think I'd rather get an STD than 2 children honestly. There goes your life and all your money for 18 years.

    [–]rebuildingMyself 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    Even better. A man pokes a hole on a condom? Jail time

    [–]jacobman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    Well if women are the gatekeepers to sex and men are the gatekeepers to commitment, then this is definitely the female version of rape.

    [–]17 Endorsed ContributorJP_Whoregan 82 points83 points  (22 children)

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    That is fucking repulsive, disgusting, vomit-inducing, and a whole host of other adjectives I can't think of right now. Western women are like overgrown rebellious teenagers run amok, and it's getting out of hand. The fact that the overwhelming majority of the female audience encouraged this despicable contemplation is enough to drive a guy MGTOW.

    [–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (10 children)

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    Yeah for someone out of the loop and outside the western world, MGTOW types look like narcissistic aspies.

    After I spent some time reading about/seeing stuff like this, I get why some guys opt out. The husband types that want a happy family life, the attentive boyfriend types, they get no respect. Most are older than 30, less willing to adapt and rethink their approach because they think it's too late and they're set in their ways. They see that who they are counts for nothing to today's women so they don't bother anymore.

    I don't agree with their choice, but I understand why some make that choice.

    MR activism might have some positive effects on the legal side of the shitpile, TRP and the manosphere might steer some young bucks in the right direction, but I think MGTOW will ultimately be the phenomenon that will have a long-lasting effect on western women - at every level.

    After the first generation of wall-hitters fail in finding the "chump to marry them" - thanks to so many men going their own way, there's going to be a social change.

    Guys underestimate the panic that comes with the wall and the going out of business uterus. It's truly a sight to see. Walked into my sister-in-law's office last week, dear lord. A dozen or more desperate single 35+ year old women gawking like vultures one second and awwwing at pictures of my niece the second after.

    Think those circumstances at an international level. That's what's going to happen if millions of men go their own way. Crazy aging mess epidemic. Buy stocks in pharma because antidepressant sales are going to skyrocket.

    [–]5 Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 20 points21 points  (0 children)

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    It's pretty easy to be a plate spinner nowadays, especially if you're a 7/8+ and have proper frame and game. Women put out more than enough to create plenty of opportunities for easy lays.

    Finding a woman who's actually high quality enough to be the mother of your children... not so much.

    The more betas start to realize that the women they're getting are just the sloppy seconds of a whole host of dark triad alphas, the more men will opt out of the SMP.

    [–]1renzy77 6 points7 points  (1 child)

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    MR activism might have some positive effects on the legal side of the shitpile, TRP and the manosphere might steer some young bucks in the right direction, but I think MGTOW will ultimately be the phenomenon that will have a long-lasting effect on western women - at every level.

    After the first generation of wall-hitters fail in finding the "chump to marry them" - thanks to so many men going their own way, there's going to be a social change.

    It would be interesting to see the breakdown of numbers between the demographics of MR, TRP and MGTOW. My bet is of the three, MGTOW is actually the largest segment, but that a lot of guys living the MGTOW lifestyle have never even heard of the term. They're simply men who have decided to opt-out, either because they've learned about female nature the hard way (divorce court) or they're men who've simply decided the juice isn't worth the squeeze anymore.

    Either way, I think as you've said it's going to have some profound effects both economically and socially once a tipping point is reached and a significant minority of men decide that they no longer want to be pack-horses for society or women anymore.

    [–]cxj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    I think you are right about mgtow. I know several offhand who abandoned serious careers to work chill flexible jobs and spend most of their time pursuing and mastering multiple hobbies. They have no idea what mgtow is but they are textbook examples of it lol

    [–]bama79rolltide 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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    After the first generation of wall-hitters fail in finding the "chump to marry them" - thanks to so many men going their own way, there's going to be a social change.

    Well said.

    [–]vaker 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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    After the first generation of wall-hitters fail in finding the "chump to marry them" - thanks to so many men going their own way, there's going to be a social change.

    They'll demand that the state provide for them from the taxes taken from the men unwilling to marry their saggy asses.

    [–]HarryPeckerCrabbe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    The State progressively providing social benefits to women, a key voting block, has continued to play itself out over the past 40 years, and continues to grow. There is some interesting political commentary available about women's suffrage, the growth of the nanny state, and unsustainable national debts (both funded and unfunded / off balance sheet liabilities).

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      [–]Dubba 25 points26 points  (1 child)

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      They know their tune-in-daily, stay-at-home demographic...

      [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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      stay-at-home-and-do-nothing demographic. if a woman was staying at home and working she wouldnt have time for such a shit show.

      [–]veyron1001 5 points6 points  (3 children)

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      Amazing, considering that men make up for most of the paying customer base.

      Edit: I'm referring to the entertainment service like internet and cable. Not consumption as a whole.

      [–]tallwheel 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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      Think so? I thought that women account for from anywhere from 60-80% of consumer spending. Women are way more susceptible to buy crap they saw advertised on TV as far as I can tell.

      [–]ThePedanticCynic 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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      I think by 'paying customer base' he meant that any women who's home watching these things doesn't have the money to buy anything on her own. She's relying on a man for financial support.

      [–]tallwheel 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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      Doesn't matter to the advertisers who makes the money. All that matters is who is able to spend it... and housewives tend to have mostly free reign to buy whatever they want with hubby's money. They're prime consumers. Hell, they are the #1 consumers. Just look at how many commercials are aimed at women and housewives. Go to the mall or downtown in a large city and count the stores aimed at these twats. Marketers aren't stupid.

      [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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      I dated several north american girls over the last two years after exclusively dating European women.

      From that experience I have to say I am profoundly sorry to all my American brothers. They are so controlling and use sex as a tool of that control.

      [–]wubalubadub 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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      American women are the byproduct of oxytocin and dopamine run amok, fueled by media that capitalizes on these highly addictive hormones. You have dopamine telling you your every little move is a wonderful little miracle, and oxytocin brushing away any doubts about your self worth. Why would they change? Their corrupted hormones tell them 'inside' that they're living a good life.

      These women only repent when they reach the hardships of life that require seratonin and endorphins, the hormones that reward you for endurance and achievement. Ask a single 32 year old how that's going.

      [–]iamthewacokid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      The majority of the female audience and the one dude sitting next to her...

      [–]CoruscantSunset 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      I realize that lumping all women together into vaguely defined negativity-clusters is the cornerstone of this sub, but you should understand that Wendy Williams is a television personality and she's a fairly low-rent one that nearly everyone regards as crazy.

      I don't know one person who takes Wendy Williams seriously. Nearly everyone sees her as an even nuttier version of Tyra Banks and other shows like The Soup never let up making fun of her antics and ridiculousness.

      Her 'female audience' members are directed to be enthusiastic while on camera, like the audiences of all talk shows are. They don't represent what any actual person thinks or feels and I really don't feel like something like this should have to be explained.

      You can't watch an episode of a talk show and then say that it speaks for an entire group of people. That's like someone watching Jerry Springer and then announcing that it's proof positive that all of America is nothing but midgets who marry goats and then wrestle their grandmothers on top of the wedding cake.

      [–]CrustsRemoved 24 points25 points  (5 children)

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      She's on national television. What an idiot!

      If I was the guy I'd be first in line at the vasectomy office and double check that pre-nup.

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        [–]In_Liberty 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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        You'll be charged with both if the fetus is aborted.

        [–]AGiftToAfterthought 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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        On a technicality, only assault. The foetus is only considered a person once it has drawn breath. If it is aborted, no breath = no person.

        [–]1ron_giant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        SOme of southern states in the US have created punishment that round it up to murder if the fetus wouldve been at a "viable" point of the pregnancy. Legally its a clusterfuck since you are right, that's giving personhood to a fetus which pulls in the whole abortion debate.

        Net/net. Don't do it cause it's gonna go badly for you on multiple levels.

        [–]tallwheel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        she'd go to jail for manipulating the birth control against his will

        In what country has any woman ever been punished for manipulating birth control? I don't know of any law anywhere that specifically forbids it.

        Of course if you reverse the sexes, then it is rape.

        [–]nggyungly_dngraady 106 points107 points  (19 children)

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        How am I supposed to not be angry with women in general when the entire audience validated this woman's manipulative behavior? [Serious]

        I've never identified myself as a misogynist before but... "look into my eyes."

        [–]phant0mpupil[S] 53 points54 points  (11 children)

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        Hahaha, that was brilliant.

        On a serious note, I agree. The women here all agreed with the notion of Fuck him, you do what you want. Any male audience doing shit like this would be vilified faster than you can spell misogynist.

        [–]17 Endorsed ContributorArchwinger 46 points47 points  (10 children)

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        The women here all agreed with the notion of Fuck him, you do what you want.

        That's the modern position. Women believe that reproductive choice belongs solely to women. Not just abortion, all reproductive choice.

        It's okay to tell a man you're on the pill when you're not in a deliberate attempt to become pregnant with his child, because that's your body and your reproductive choice to try to become pregnant. Because you're a woman. His will doesn't matter because it's your body, your choice. Because you're a woman.

        I sometimes wonder how things would go if something like this went opposite ways in a few jurisdictions and actually reached the Supreme Court. Following Roe and the whole string of cases after that, the physical integrity of the mother trumps any other rights involved, up to the third trimester (which was selected arbitrarily as the point of fetal viability). The man's got no say whether to terminate or carry to term. Because it's her body. She doesn't even have to tell him there was ever a pregnancy. Not even if they're married. But in many of the cases, post-Roe, involving the fate of frozen embryos, there was no physical integrity or medical decision of the mother in play. It was both parties' rights to choose whether or not to become a biological parent. And those rights were found equal in most jurisdictions - a woman couldn't implant an embryo that was biologically her ex-husband's (thus making him a biological father) against his will just because she was a woman.

        Where courts have gotten around the whole tricking a man into impregnating you issue is the fact that contraception isn't 100%. So you can't prove that the woman wouldn't have gotten pregnant, even if she was on the pill. And sex is an activity that everyone knows carries a risk of pregnancy in any case, so the man assumes that risk and compromises his right to choose whether or not to be a parent when he chooses to have sex.

        But if I fix your propane stove, tell you I used a quality hose but I actually use a shitty one, and your house blows up, is it your fault because cooking with propane is inherently slightly risky, and I just happened to make it significantly more risky for you?

        If a woman wants to get pregnant, and I agree to father a child with her, but surprise, I had a vasectomy five years ago and never tell her, you can damn well bet people will lock me up for rape.

        [–]selfsufficientnigga 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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        Where courts have gotten around the whole tricking a man into impregnating you issue is the fact that contraception isn't 100%. So you can't prove that the woman wouldn't have gotten pregnant, even if she was on the pill.

        More important point, the woman will never admit she intentionally didn't take the pills. This is not about pills not working, this is about pills not being taken intentionally.

        Women thrive on plausible deniability.

        [–]1independentmale 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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        Women believe that reproductive choice belongs solely to women. Not just abortion, all reproductive choice.

        This is true.

        My ex wife tried to forbid me from having a vasectomy because she wanted more kids. What I wanted was completely irrelevant. I did it anyway. We'd agreed on one when we married and had two, so as far as I was concerned she got twice as many as she was promised.

        She brought it up in a marriage counseling session and the female counselor ganged up on me, saying it wasn't fair of me to "take that away from her" (that being her supposed "right" to more of my progeny). I quit going to marriage counseling soon after. What a waste of time and money.

        [–]zernoise 11 points12 points  (2 children)

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        I don't even understand the "it's your body" argument, yes it affects your body but temporarily. It affects both your lives permanently even if you don't stay together he's still affected (child support, be part of Childs life etc)

        [–]MartialWay 13 points14 points  (1 child)

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        "Her body her choice" makes a lot less sense when they start throwing HIS BODY in jail for the crime of losing his job. Child Support enforcement can be pretty brutal in America.

        [–]zernoise 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        That's exactly what I mean. I mean it makes sense in the short run but in the long run it affects him as much as her if not more(jail, child support)

        [–]1mr_throwz 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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        Where courts have gotten around the whole tricking a man into impregnating you issue is the fact that contraception isn't 100%. So you can't prove that the woman wouldn't have gotten pregnant, even if she was on the pill. And sex is an activity that everyone knows carries a risk of pregnancy in any case, so the man assumes that risk and compromises his right to choose whether or not to be a parent when he chooses to have sex.

        Does this somehow absolve her from committing fraud?

        [–]17 Endorsed ContributorArchwinger 15 points16 points  (1 child)

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        Technically, yes. People lie to each other all the time to induce one another into various activities. But if the other party wasn't damaged by the inducement, it's not a legal win.

        Because women can get pregnant even when on the pill, it can't be proven that the woman's lie led to the pregnancy. She might have gotten pregnant anyway.

        Because the man could have taken other actions, including barrier contraceptives, or even just not having sex, the man contributed to his own harm. Because sex inherently carries a risk of pregnancy in every case and that's the natural result/purpose for sex, you give up the ability to sue someone when the known risk came to pass.

        Is this the right legal result? Of course not. If I'm an auto mechanic and I tell you I put new brake pads on your vehicle, but I really used old ones, and your brakes fail and you crash your car, it doesn't matter that driving is inherently risky and you can't conclusively prove that you wouldn't have crashed anyway even if I'd used new brake pads. I can get sued.

        Also note that Wendy used the word "forget". Not fraud. Birth control is most effective taken the same time every day, consistently, among other factors. Lots of women misuse birth control and forget it from time to time. You can't sue a woman for negligence when she actually forgets, for many of the same reasons above. (Also, a woman doesn't have a legal obligation to her man to take the pill daily, so forgetting the pill doesn't breach any obligation.) So you couldn't sue a woman who pretend-forgets.

        [–]Eloni 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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        TL;DR - Get a vasectomy.

        [–]jacobman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        The whole "my body" argument is complete bullshit red herring shit. Women don't actually care because it's their body. They mostly just want to have control, and this clip shows that.

        [–]cray-cray-cray 14 points15 points  (5 children)

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        How am I supposed to not be angry with women in general when the entire audience validated this woman's manipulative behavior?

        Only because of the serious tag... would you be angry at a scorpion for stinging a frog?

        The applause and smiling in that clip... just eye opening.

        [–]RojoEscarlata 5 points6 points  (4 children)

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        Still is pretty fucking disgusting.

        [–]cray-cray-cray 7 points8 points  (3 children)

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        Agree. Bugs that eat shit are also disgusting to me.

        I'm not a big fan of the fact that mosquitoes suck blood, either. Should anyone build a subreddit dedicated to mosquito hate? Probably already there, lol. But does anyone want to make the case that such a thing is a good use of emotional energy? I doubt it.

        Make a list of 1,000 things you don't like and then rage against them on the internet. Will it make you feel better? I'd rather put on a little bug spray for 1% of the effort.

        Leave the realm of the emotional to women. Make the realm of practical yours.

        [–]RojoEscarlata 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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        Agreed, I'm not hating or getting enraged by this display of stupidity.

        Still seeing this display of lack of empathy, common sense, intelligence, etc, etc, disgust me.

        [–]1Zackcid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        [Serious] To be fair, the vast majority of those audience members weren't thinking on their own at that precise moment. You know how it is with female talk shows, they all worship the host and act like sheep. They already knew Wendy's position, so they went ahead and clapped just to be on "team Wendy!"

        It's like this picture. Most people will just go with the majority opinion, because they fear being left out (and other reasons). It takes real guts -- or in our case, it takes self-awareness and belief in one's own paradigm -- to oppose the host and the crowd.

        [–]Mayoyayo 20 points21 points  (0 children)

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        Theres a guy in jail for poking holes in condoms.

        Basically forcing motherhood is on a different level of severity to forcing fatherhood. I mean I can see where that logic is coming from. The patriarchy has always put the well being above everyone else.

        [–]culofiesta 37 points38 points  (24 children)

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        Women in their forties are such self centered, mentally ill monsters. Someone should really call some attention to the shit they do. It's a problem that's become an epidemic.

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        I remember my uncle telling me (back when I was like 16) that once girls get older than 23 they go crazy. It was tongue-in-cheek even at the time and I thought he was being sarcastic and ridiculous for comedy's sake.

        While even now it's an exaggeration, something does happen once the peak SMV age passes for women. There's a anxiety inducing reality check, gnawing at them, in the back of their minds. The realization that they'll soon be "not young girls" but adult women...who need to think about the future, get a career going, prospect for husband material...at least set up backups. They also notice they put on weight easier than 5 years ago. Back in college, if a guy they like didn't call it was no biggie, she's young and there are many fish in the sea. Now at 26 if a great guy doesn't call...shiieeeet, Becky. What if he's found some hot 21.. she herself is 26 and only has like 3 years left of being young and hot enough to get a stud, what if those years run out and she won't meet Mister Right at 28, she won't get to be married by age 30. If that happens she won't have a kid at 31 and then she'll get bogged down with her career and before you know it...she'll be 38 and single with sagging tits, 3 cats and "The Bachelor" on DVR, a sad mess just like her aunt.

        The above was mostly hyperbole, mostly...There is a sense of urgency to them as women get older though. Try it for yourself.

        [–]culofiesta 16 points17 points  (0 children)

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        I predict there will be more unmarried elderly women (not widowed or divorced) in twenty years than ever before. All these women that thought they could date forever are now seeing the gravy train run out.

        It happened to my ex. She is 33 and lives in a studio apartment with her cat. She is also alcoholic and now morbidly obese. Her idiotic parents think she's a hot ticket though, and keep pushing her for grandkids. I love checking in every once in a while to watch that shitshow.

        [–]1mr_throwz 16 points17 points  (2 children)

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        While even now it's an exaggeration, something does happen once the peak SMV age passes for women. There's a anxiety inducing reality check, gnawing at them, in the back of their minds.

        "Maybe the patriarchy wasn't so bad after all!"

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        I love how you imply that once they hit the wall they still refuse to give up that fairy tale... but even agree with everything they thought was once so terrible.

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        Ha, no, in their mind, it's exactly the patriarchy that caused this situation.

        [–]phant0mpupil[S] 8 points9 points  (18 children)

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        Seconded.

        [–]culofiesta 23 points24 points  (17 children)

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        I am forty and when I was dating I met so many women my age or older that had serious emotional issues. They were like angry dogs on chains just wanting for you to get close enough to bite.

        Don't want any children?

        You are a pedophile (huh?) that the police should watch

        Don't want to get married?

        Why are you wasting their time? (said with a violent swing of arms as they leave)

        Not interested in them or looking for someone younger?

        Holy shit, nuclear meltdown. Hope you aren't in public when you drop that one.

        [–]1mr_throwz 25 points26 points  (12 children)

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        I told a 30 something that I was looking for someone younger one time (I'm only 29 myself) and she had a full blown nuclear chain reaction meltdown.

        [–]culofiesta 26 points27 points  (1 child)

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        She doesn't like that the power has been completely reversed. Guys they wouldn't look at five years ago are laughing in their face and going for women they wish they were. Life can be beautiful sometimes.

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        As a man in his mid-40's, I can confirm the power does reverse and does so quite viciously. It's funny to watch, isn't it?

        [–]smokeybehr 1 point2 points  (9 children)

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        What, you don't want a "cougar"? Isn't that what all "young guys" want? Look at the popularity of CougarTown and CougarLife! /s

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          [–]2 Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 0 points1 point  (7 children)

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          Do you live in Asia? Because if you don't.... move to Asia. I live in Thailand. There are SO many young, perky, sexy Thai girls that want a white boyfriend. YOU get to pick and choose. Asian women also know a thing or two about respecting their man. These are red pill societies over here, unlike the West which is mostly blue pill. My advice to you--have fun now as you are doing, and when you can manage it, get yourself a nice Asian g/f (raised in Asia, not an Asian-American) about 5-7 years younger than you. It's the new hot thing to do.

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            [–]2 Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 -1 points0 points  (4 children)

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            I am drafting a how-to guide that will be posted within a month. I dreamed about moving to Asia for a decade before I made it happen. I'm in my late 20s now and believe me this can be paradise for white men but TRP, hypergamy, and shit tests still apply. Asian women are still women! More to come....

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              [–]HarryPeckerCrabbe -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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              I currently split my time between Hong Kong and Shanghai. I find the concept of the Kept Woman (second and third wives) in Chinese society to be quite fascinating.

              [–]phant0mpupil[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

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              That's crazy, I've never understood why people get so bitter. It's crazy.

              [–]culofiesta 21 points22 points  (0 children)

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              Women get sold an ideal that's unattainable. We all get that to some extent but most of us realize it's bullshit soon after leaving home. These women feel they are "owed" a husband to work while they stay home and kids they can brag about. If they don't get it they get very angry and violent.

              If you are completely honest with them you will get attacked, maybe have the cops called on you. Everyone else that isn't invested in her will lie because it's easier than dealing with her. If you're the only person that gives her the truth you are the bad guy.

              [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

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              Men are bitter too, but we are bitter from the start because we start at 0. Even more bitter if we realized we were running the race in the wrong direction (newly redpill). The bitterness diminishes once we start to get our life in order. Opposite for women.

              [–]culofiesta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              Things get easier for men the older they get. For women it's the opposite, things get harder the older they get.

              From 0- 23 the world is a girl's oyster. Teachers kiss up to them, they get free drinks, police always take their side. Hell, strange men on the street will drop everything to help them.

              Then, about mid to late twenties, that starts to slow down. It becomes harder and harder to get attention and validation. That's when things get frantic. Many women opt out of the game, sit home and pop out child support vouchers while their friends seethe with jealousy and want the same. The longer these women go without getting it the harder it becomes and the angrier they get. Around their forties they implode. Many of them become alcoholics or all out pill poppers. A lot of them have one man (ex husband. baby daddy, etc) they can focus on and they do everything possible to destroy his life.

              For men it's the opposite. They not only have to pay for drinks but we have to wait in line and pay to get in clubs. They get no free backstage passes and They are always the culprit in schools if something goes wrong. If a college gf gets vindictive she can cry rape and They lose their entire school career with no questions asked.

              As they get older a strange thing happens though, we start to get looks from younger women and the trials we had to go through to get them into bed disappears altogether. Women start throwing themselves at them the same time our career takes off and they really begin to enjoy life.

              Many men had already been through the dating wringer with women so they are careful. Now that they have disposable income, lots of time and varied interests, they don't want to have them weighed down by an angry, naggy, violent, self entitled monster. They choose not to and for that they're called perpetual children or selfish. More proof that society has been feminized.

              [–]RedSpectrum 10 points11 points  (1 child)

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              Vasagel can't come soon enough.

              [–]omglazers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              Can't believe I hadn't heard of this before

              [–]BluepillProfessor 13 points14 points  (0 children)

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              So if a woman cuts off daily sex on the honeymoon the guy should just go ahead and fuck her over her violent protests because...like she agreed and promised it already...right?

              Can anybody imagine an audience of men agreeing to this absurdity? AWALT.

              [–]rpdoom 22 points23 points  (2 children)

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              Fun fact; my ex (before I found TRP) pulled this on me. I'm not even lying. She got pregnant, and I thought I was fucked. Then she had a miscarriage pretty early into her pregnancy. It might be terrible in a lot of people's minds, but I was elated, and then I ran like hell.

              [–]No_Longer_A_Boy 9 points10 points  (1 child)

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              Jesus Christ, dodged a bullet and a half brother.

              [–]rpdoom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              No kidding! Of course, now I know that the kid probably wasn't even going to be mine. I just happened to have solid job and be the BP dating her at the time. Ever since then I've been wary as fuck about this shit. We talk about it like it happens to others, but I barely skated around this catastrophe by sheer luck. Fate deemed it was not time for me to be part of the Beta Bux group, thank goodness.

              [–]HighAngleAlpha0331 9 points10 points  (1 child)

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              Freeze some swimmers and get that shit cut.

              [–]phant0mpupil[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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              If it wasn't for already having a child I'd be like cut your losses get out now.

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                [–]Mintaka7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                Women are like this, laws can be changed. Is the Men's Rights group doing something about this?

                [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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                I think a male contraceptive method (not as invasive as vasectomy) would be really nice.

                It would also expose some cuckolds earlier in the game.

                [–]bama79rolltide 7 points8 points  (1 child)

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                I only watched the first woman.

                These people can vote.

                Thank God I got my vasectomy last Friday.

                [–]greatGoD67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                What's it like?

                [–]siqniz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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                This would be the only way Wendy Williams can get a man. Next worst thing since RuPaul

                [–]megatron37 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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                Sounds like a perfect situation for a secret vasectomy.

                [–]through_a_ways 8 points9 points  (1 child)

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                Women follow the herd, men don't (nowhere near as much). That's why this sort of thing happens.

                Women are much less able to formulate their own opinions, which is why they become slutty if their friends are slutty, chaste if they live in a slut shaming society, like guys on the basis of how liked they are by other women, break up with guys if their friends urge them to, etc.

                [–]1Zackcid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                Right. That's why I wasn't as shocked or angered by this video. I knew immediately that most of those girls were just clapping to be on "Team Wendy! Yayyy, I'm cool!" They weren't actually thinking for themselves at that moment. Just going with the majority and the greatest status symbol of the area (big-jugs Wendy)

                Can you imagine a woman in the place of this man here?

                [–]EmptyChurch 12 points13 points  (3 children)

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                [–]Peripheryy 20 points21 points  (1 child)

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                [–]RockinRhombus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                also:

                "I've made some terrible life choices...."

                [–]dunk91 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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                god, that's a disgusting statistic

                this video clip may have ruined my day

                [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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                I love pussy. I don't love women.

                [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

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                The fuck is wrong with her face and tits? She looks like a transvestite.

                [–]Dat_Black_Guy 8 points9 points  (1 child)

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                ahahahaha!

                in the words of lil wayne

                "Fuck Wendy Williams, the bitch look like a dude, hey hair looks glued and her body looks chewed"

                [–]1Zackcid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                Chris brown also said something similar. He thought she was a dude bhahaha!

                Here was her response, in typical girl-speak:

                http://youtu.be/W1a0y0sW1ko

                [–]Ironhigh 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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                We need laws against this shit for fucks sake.

                If a woman purposely lies about birth control or does a trick to get pregnant the father should be able to deny the parenthood without paying child support.

                How can trapping someone for 18 years on purpose be entirely legal.

                [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil 6 points7 points  (2 children)

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                Had this man been adding extra testosterone to his body none of this would have ever happened. First off he would be in complete control of his fertility, because his production of sperm would come to a halt. Next, having super natural levels of testosterone makes you acutely aware of when someone is taking advantage of you. Im sure this woman scammed tons of purses jewelery and other shit out of him, until she grew the balls to scam a baby.

                Low Test: Honey I accidentally used your card to replace my old purse. That's fine with me honey, I love you.

                High Test: Honey I accidentally used your card to replace my old purse. Then you can accidentally write me a check.

                High Test + Tren: Honey I accidentally used your card to replace my old purse. I accidentally took a shit in your new purse.

                [–]Mintaka7 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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                Tren? rofl That sounds amazing

                [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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                The strength gains are insane you torch fat but you have insomnia and a lack of empathy.

                [–]econ_ftw 8 points9 points  (2 children)

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                Did anyone notice the guy next to her clapping (voting that she should trick her husband)? That faggot is a traitor, and needs his ass beat.

                [–]jacobman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                He might be gay. He certainly looks the part.

                [–]Mooshaq 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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                Holy hell. First off, Wendy looks like a damn alien...faccia brutta!

                The women trying to trick her husband is an absolute twat. I'm also appalled by how many people clapped in support of this suggestion. It was painful to watch the few women on the right of the screen who looked around awkwardly and didn't want to clap to support this horrible shit.

                As for the second woman...learn how to discipline your kids.

                [–]Sup_Computerz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                Look at the dude 3 rows back on the right at 00:58 when she polls the audience. Holy shit my sides.

                [–]greycloud24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                get a vasectomy. get a vasectomy, get a vasectomy, get a vasectomy! you cannot trust your wife, because she trusts other women. get a fucking vasectomy or you did it to yourself!

                [–]beltwaytr 2 points3 points  (5 children)

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                and this is why you wear condoms.

                [–]rporion -4 points-3 points  (4 children)

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                Two

                [–]christiefrontdrive 9 points10 points  (3 children)

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                Two is less protective than one, they can rub together and create a hole.

                [–]1Zackcid 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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                the more you know

                [–]rporion 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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                That was actually just an attempt to inject some humour...

                Anyway, now I know, and knowing is half the battle!

                On a serious note, that was an interesting fact...

                Makes sense...

                [–]christiefrontdrive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                I wasn't trying to be a dick, I assumed the same as you for many years. It seems reasonable: 2 condoms are better than 1, right? But every study I've seen says that one is 99.9999-whatever percent protective, but two condoms quickly lose the lubrication one would have sustained and they wear holes. Imagine using some shitty woolen gloves to work with a rake or an axe all day: sooner or later you'll get a hole.

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                If they're within their rights to lie about birthcontrol/condoms you should be able to punch her in the stomach

                [–]RevBoni 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                Impossible to watch the whole thing.

                cringes

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (10 children)

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                this subreddit reminds me of /r/worldnews. everything pisses me the fuck off. im off to be thankful for my girl who actually has her damn head on straight. fuck!

                [–]3 Endorsed ContributorSkorchZang 0 points1 point  (9 children)

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                AWALT!

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children)

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                what?

                [–]-Tyler_Durden- 0 points1 point  (6 children)

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                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

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                can you explain the meaning of AWALT to me?

                [–]-Tyler_Durden- 1 point2 points  (4 children)

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                RTFSB


                All

                Women

                Are

                Like

                That

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

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                oh. but women can be educated properly. i thought we all agreed on that.

                [–]-Tyler_Durden- 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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                • What would happen if you lost your job and was unemployed for a six months?

                • What would happen if your girl was hit on by a pro athlete or her favorite rock star?

                • What would happen if your girl gets baby rabies and you didn't want to be a father yet?

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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                1) she works and i have been out of work for 6 months before and she stood by me. never once complained.

                she actually still made dinner since she knew i wasnt pussying out and trying to find a job. she knew bc she had been there.

                2) she has had buff betas hit on her before and i could even say anything she pushed them away quick.

                3) well it depends. if i feel like it was an accident but i can afford to take care of it then i will ask her to keep it.but if i dont she will get an abortion. we have talked about this.

                [–]BluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                Lots of TRP guys assume AWALT on a lot of things. Here is the AWALT: ALL women will lose sexual attraction for their man if he loses his frame. She may not leave him right away. She may not complain- but she will be as dry as the Sahara. You can be out of work for 6 months if that is the way your industry works or if you are starting out but like I say always say if you lose your frame, she will lose the tingles.

                [–]systembreaker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                Bunch of womanchilds in that audience.

                Although what's with the guy who's laughing and clapping with rest? Is everyone getting paid for following the cue signs? Either way, his man card is hereby revoked for all time.

                [–]whoops_fap 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                That wasn't Wendy Williams it was arsenio hall

                [–]bam2_89 0 points1 point  (3 children)

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                I hope she pulls this off so that her husband can reverse it into a Hail Mary, which would be an even better dose of Karma for her than him catching her before she goes through with it.

                [–]phant0mpupil[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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                But what about the poor child?

                [–]bam2_89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                What child?

                [–]systembreaker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                She shoulda thought of that.

                [–]aazav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                Self entitled bitch encourages other to become self entitled bitch. Film at 11.

                [–]Starcop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                Hopefully the Husband divorces her before she has the second child.

                [–]General_Fear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                "He promised"

                So what. Women promise to love, honor and obey. And after the kids are born, they never want to have sex again.

                I am so glad that I never married. It is the best decision of my life.

                [–]incraved 0 points1 point  (6 children)

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                I can't believe we are discussing such rubbish here. That is a troll/retarded show made for mindless entertainment, why would you even care about what that bitch says?

                [–]BluepillProfessor 9 points10 points  (3 children)

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                We are more concerned that the vast majority of womyn agree with the advice. Not just the vast majority of womyn in the audience or even the vast majority who watch this moronic show. The vast majority of WOMYN believe this way. That is definitely worth discussing.

                [–]incraved 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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                As for the audience, it doesn't represent the population. They get audience that will cheer her up and agree with her, they are not going to get university professors.

                [–]1Zackcid 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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                And how many female university professors are you to stumble upon? Something like 0.0001% of women are actually professors?

                We don't deal with exceptions here.

                [–]incraved 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                Ummm... I don't think you get the point.

                [–]ibuprofiend 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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                I always wonder where red pillers get these insane feminist blogs and shit from. I'd rather deep throat a cactus than read Jezebel looking for feminazi shenanigans to post here.

                (Maybe they get it from their friends' Facebook feeds or something, but I think Facebook is a waste of time too.)

                [–]phant0mpupil[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                I saw it on the YouTube sidebar when I was watching some American talk shows.

                [–]cjwagz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                Side note: wtf is up with her face

                [–]brettdavis4 -5 points-4 points  (3 children)

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                What about just jacking off and not having sex with her? Condoms rips/leak and not sleeping with her would prevent her from getting preggers.

                [–]phant0mpupil[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

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                Hahaha, this is crazy. So you aren't going to sleep with your wife on the off chance that she could lie and become pregnant?

                [–]1mr_throwz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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                She went on national TV and practically admitted she was going to (at the behest of women who weren't even in the audience) and the entire audience was unanimous in it's agreement.

                [–]brettdavis4 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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                If you couldn't trust your wife and you wanted to prove a point to her, it would be an option worth considering.