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[–]clutch_guy 165 points166 points  (49 children)

Intel knows who its real clients are and they are not SJWS with their macs who wouldn't know whats running their machine. No, their rabid clients on gaming websites are men from the age of 10 onwards and you don't want to piss off your clients for some PC SJW bullshit

[–]wtf_is_taken 16 points17 points  (23 children)

Apple uses Intels' chips... ;D

[–]JustThrewUp 65 points66 points  (21 children)

But they're going to buy macs weather "intel inside" or not.

[–]jolly--roger 37 points38 points  (20 children)

Precisely.

They didn't give two cracks about IBM's PowerPC or Intel's x86, they long for the Apple logo.

[–]cuntbh 26 points27 points  (19 children)

But Macs can do so much more than Windows machines...

Assuming your Windows machine is 10 years old and neglected. For the same hardware specs, a mac literally costs double a windows machine, on Intel Chips (only comparing laptops).

But DAMN, that logo. Not even a full Apple, but still worth £500!

[–]YOUR_MOMS_A_CUNT 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yea, even an alienware, that costs 1.5X a normal windows PC is still cheaper than a mac.

[–]DoctorsHateHim 13 points14 points  (11 children)

Its not about the specs really. I program and I own a Mac, because the build quality is superb and their OS is Unix based and optimized for their hardware. It really makes work a lot easier than using windows. There are people who have no idea about computers and only long for that sweet sweet apple logo of course.

[–]Terry174 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exactly this. I bought my mac for iOS development and it's paid for itself multiple times over. I hate being categorised into the mac-buyer group of people, when I have a legitimate use for one. Unix based operating systems are far greater from a development perspective and having a mac allows me to use OS X, Windows and of course Linux, so I can do whatever I want. Granted a lot of people but macs and use them as a glorified tablet (Facebook, iMessage, etc). But they have legitimate uses that justify the additional price. Free updates? A trackpad that doesn't absolutely suck, fast window management. POSIX, if windows offered these things, among others, it'd be a nicer operating system. Though not development related, scrolling on windows is absolute garbage, going from OS X to bootcamp makes the scrolling experience terrible. Even hackintosh's have superior scrolling, so I believe it's just windows drivers and design.

[–]ibuprofiend 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Agreed... and then once you get tired of your Mac, you can sell it for the price of a brand new Windows machine, so the cost isn't really an issue in the long term.

I hate the Mac circlejerk on Reddit. Why do people get angry about how other people choose to spend their money?

I think they just hate the stereotypical Mac user.

[–]anonlymouse 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I think they just hate the stereotypical Mac user

Which is insufferable when it comes to talking about computers, and ignorant.

I do like running into the odd Mac fan who understands exactly what is wrong with the Performa 5200 though.

[–]trpalternate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That brings back memories. I had a Performa 5260 when I was a kid and loved that thing. I learned how to use ResEdit to hack my F-18 flight sim to get nukes for every mission. Good times...

I have a Mac now, but I've used Windows and Linux. The Mac OS is really well made, and there are now some decent game titles available for the Mac. I hate that you now have to go through the app store for system updates, though. If I didn't have the Mac, I'd probably stick with a Win7/Linux dual boot, but I can definitely see why a Mac would be worth the extra money for some people.

[–]cuntbh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OSX is vastly superior to Windows- things like SSH built in by default, but given that there are Linux distributions which are easy to use, which would run on a £100 box, Mac is a bad choice for most day to day users.

[–]tsotha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that's all true, but hardly any AAA games get released for the Mac, so if you're running a gaming magazine site (or whatever you'd call them), your customers are going to be PC and console users.

[–]SirNemesis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I switched to Thinkpads from Macbooks at some point for the even better build quality, but I have to install OpenBSD on this so that I can have a good Unix OS on it.

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      [–]cuntbh 2 points3 points  (3 children)

      It's interesting that you said POSIX compliant, because I thought you were taking about Mac, but according to my reading of Wikipedia, OSX isn't POSIX compliant.

      [–]rpkarma 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      It's close enough for my liking. I could've sworn they got the verification a few years back though.

      [–]cuntbh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I don't know- it's possible. I just read the list from Wikipedia.

      [–]IrateMollusk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      It makes me glad I just sunk $500 into a new Intel CPU.

      [–]Involution88 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Their clients aren't men. Their clients are gamers who are tired of SJW bullshit. Surveys find that between 40 and 60% of gamers are female. Gender distribution is far less equal if you look at individual titles. Seriously there are plenty of female protagonists and female supporting characters. To hell with Sarkeesian and her womyns logic. The world does not revolve around her.

      Personal example: I do not like games set in WW2. I do not play them. I prefer Sci-Fi oriented titles. I prefer RTS to FPS. I will generally argue against playing Battlefield or Call of Duty. Wouldn't argue that Battlefield or COD should be banned or are misogynist.

      Here is a hopeless oversimplification. The vast majority of people who play The Sims are female, the vast majority of people who play Kerbal Space Program are male. I am perfectly fine with men and women having different tastes in gaming. I couldn't care less about everything being perfectly gender balanced. I am not fine with the idea that everything has to pander to some social justice warriors personal needs.

      [–]NS_white 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I'm actually surprised by Intel. I haven't known them to be great towards their customers. Not bad just not great.

      [–]MarriedRP 2 points3 points  (8 children)

      SJW is what? Can we add this to the glossary on the right?

      [–]Valreddit99 34 points35 points  (3 children)

      Social Justice Warrior

      "A pejorative term for an individual who repeatedly and vehemently engages in arguments on social justice on the Internet, often in a shallow or not well-thought-out way, for the purpose of raising their own personal reputation."

      more here: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SJW&defid=6349922

      [–]NJBarFly 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      They also lack sense of humor and are offended by just about anything.

      [–]so6p 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I think that if someone put a major SJW character and how he/she lives his/her warrior life on a movie screen, it could make for an Oscar level performance.

      [–]jeffwingersballs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      There's plenty comedy about people who take offense top things.

      [–]jolly--roger 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      If you have 9 minutes - educate yourself on SJWs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvYSPxvrq5s

      [–]cuntbh 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      "Let's fight for equality- by giving certain races and genders priority over others"

      That video was spot on the point- thanks.

      [–]Echelon64 -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

      I use a mac and I am as far away as SJW as possible. Having a POSIX compliant OS without a shit UI and propietary tool support is the best of both worlds.

      That and my mac was cheaper than any bargain laptop at best buy.

      Don't hate on the tool hate on the game.

      [–]anonlymouse 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Having a POSIX compliant OS without a shit UI

      So you're still running Tiger?

      [–]rpkarma 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Hehehehe

      In all honesty though, having a Unix-ish computer for development is a boon. I ran Linux as my desktop OS for 7 years, now I have a Mac (two, actually) and a couple hundred Linux VMs.

      [–]averageredpill 107 points108 points  (29 children)

      Intel has legitimized a movement that has shown itself to be anti-feminist, violently protectionist, and totally unwilling to share what it sees as its divine right to video games.

      Yes because trying to change the videogame industry to fit your narrative and calling it equality, that's not even remotely violently protectionist and anti-gamer. /s

      This god damn retards should STOP with this censuring pressure, people want to play games they like, being it killing a bagillion nubs in BF4 or building an entire city in Simcity without being told that what they do is wrong, sexist and misogyny.

      I propose #BanShades because those erotic books are demeaning to men and is a irrealistic version of how a relationship should be and how sex and erotism are.

      [–]AngraMainyuu 48 points49 points  (1 child)

      Intel has legitimized a movement that has shown itself to be anti-feminist, violently protectionist, and totally unwilling to share what it sees as its divine right to video games.

      I wish for the love of a god, that people would start seeing this shit as mere petty name calling instead of thinking it has some kinda substance. I mean it amounts to:

      ...has legitimized a movement who shown itself to not like us, wants to stop hanging around with us, and totally unwilling to share their video games.

      I mean they sound like 10yr olds except they're (mis)using adult words.

      [–]cuntbh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      it amounts to:

      And that's exactly what those things mean, in context. Except, that would make it look like the SJWs, who destroyed a competition to launch indie games, as well as causing all kindsa other shit in this case, were a group who are bad to associate with.

      Heck, if you said it like that, it would look like the white cis-males were wronged by the trans-retard pink hair freaks.Which totally didn't happen, because they never do anything wrong! /s

      [–]MysterMoron 18 points19 points  (1 child)

      Intel has legitimized a movement that has shown itself to be anti-feminist

      Because obviously, if it's anti-feminist, it's bad.

      God, I don't even want to read that article anymore...

      [–]Redpiller456 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      But notice how no points are being discussed. The label of something as "anti-feminist" is a censorship tactic to silence anything seen as dissent. These people don't want a discussion.

      [–]Redpiller456 31 points32 points  (21 children)

      It's seriously dumb. People will point out that there are just as many female "gamers" as there are male gamers, except that the types of games men and women tend to play are enormously different. Not to mention that male gamers that were reported to play video games at least 20 hours per week was found to be 7:1 compared to women. That obviously means that men are the primary demographic for AAA titles, so obviously developers and companies that are running a business and trying to sell a product are going to cater largely to, you know, the gender that keeps them in business and profitable.

      When I play video games, I don't see much of an injustice. There are some examples of objectification, but just looking at my PSN profile list of games I've played, there is maybe 2 or 3 games that could be considered promoting women as objects. Hell, some games like Mortal Kombat promote men and women as sexual objects, but no one really looks it at that way.

      The "gaming" community has turned into one of the biggest groups of pussies I've ever seen. So many faggot white knights leading the charge in the comments section. They'll do anything to get that coveted female attention, even if it means forfeiting their manhood.

      If women had it their way, video games would actually suck and wouldn't be fun anymore.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion 54 points55 points  (16 children)

      There are some examples of objectification, but just looking at my PSN profile list of games I've played, there is maybe 2 or 3 games that could be considered promoting women as objects. Hell, some games like Mortal Kombat promote men and women as sexual objects, but no one really looks it at that way.

      Stop buying into bullshit narratives. There is no such thing as objectification. There is no functional difference between objectification and lust.

      "Objectification" is a ridiculous concept that is nothing more than an attempt by feminists to demonize normal human behavior. More specifically, an attempt to categorize male sexuality as a pathology. The definition I've heard most often is that "objectification" is when you view someone else only in terms of what you want from them. But by that definition, I objectify the clerk at McDonald's: I'm only talking to him because I want a hamburger.

      [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (8 children)

      "Objectification" is a ridiculous concept that is nothing more than an attempt by feminists to demonize normal human behavior.

      You reminded me of an argument I got myself into with a bluepiller friend of mine who kept claiming that admiring a girl's ass in a bar is demeaning and objectifying her and that he feels guilty for lusting for her. He's also doing NoFap in order to suppress his sexual thoughts.

      He's beyond saving.

      [–]tsotha 8 points9 points  (3 children)

      The funny thing about that is the girl wants you to admire her ass. She just doesn't want you to say anything unless she finds you attractive. I weep inside every time I run across a guy who is that clueless.

      [–]Wargame4life 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Don't worry only complete losers on both sides refer to "objectifying" in the real world i have never ever heard a guy or women ever say anything of the sort.

      Its only internet SJW shut ins that think its a legit thing, and bitt angry feminist campaigns.

      [–]1whatsazipper 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I really wish that were true, but I find that behavior pretty common among among educated 'liberal' circles. The last wedding I went to was all about equality. Feminist thought is not restricted to ugly shut-ins-- not at all.

      [–]Wargame4life 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yeah educated liberal circles of " librarians/teachers/academics" but those who actually are in high positions of society and those we genuinely aspire to be, don't let that shit fly.

      For example at the top most exclusive places filled with the movers and shakers, no one talks about "objectifying" its a nonsense terms used by whiners who cant compete on equal terms/merit so invent oppression to try and make their view/voice/needs more significant, thinking everyone should feel sympathy for them.

      Its whiny bullshit by whiners, the "cool kids" ignore that childish crap.

      [–]rainbowhotpocket 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      Lol nofap does the exact opposite, I've heard

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I actually thought the same thing but for some reason he arrived at the conclusion that since porn is objectifying women he in extend objectifying women and that's immoral therefore he attempts to suppress his sexual thoughts and urges even if they motivate him to go talk to a girl on the basis of immoral carnal desires.

      I just accepted that I can't change or even remotely shift an unreasonable stance by making a reasonable case.

      [–]flocosix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Wow. I have a similar friend who tried to convince me that fucking a drunk girl is rape no matter what. I couldn't believe that males who think like this actually exist and have the confidence to spew this bullshit out loud.

      [–]SirNemesis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I know if it's been a while since I last masturbated, I tend to "objectify" women more.

      [–]5 Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      I find this whole Sarkeesian narrative on "objectification" hilarious. If there's one thing we've gained from the whole GG circus, it's a strong case of horseshoe effect.

      Suppose I were to tell you five to ten years ago that a particular political movement was trying to get video games de-sexualized. "We can't have women with giant tits in video games!" the movement says. "It would promote a dangerous mindset in impressionable young males! It would make them think about sex, you know, that way! It would make them have dangerous feelings about women! We need to heavily regulate the sexual content in this industry such that it does not make men feel those dangerous tinglies in their genitals."

      You would have assumed that these people were puritanical Christians, right? The sorts of people who want to ban Harry Potter for its satanist themes or some shit like that.

      Nope. It's radical left-wingers fighting for "social justice."

      Just goes to show how SJW's have contorted feminism into a whole new kind of religion.

      [–]1whatsazipper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Then next week they're congregating at the slut walk.

      Don't try to make any sense out of it, your head will explode.

      [–]RockTurgidson 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      Whenever someone mentions the negatives of "sexual objectification" with regards to women, my question is always: why is "talking to her and getting to know her" any better? Upon what logical basis is attempting to get to know a woman's personality preferable over fucking her?

      Feminists blather on and on about "you can't tell me what to do with my body" and "stop slut-shaming!" yet the next words out of their mouths are telling men to avert their eyes and change their thoughts/desires. This is preaching to the choir and is a well-trodden line of thought amongst many here, but your post pushed me to get this all out.

      [–]Endorsed Contributorcocaine_face 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      As far as I can tell, it's because it, "encourages rape culture". Not that I agree with that reasoning, but I think that's the counter argument.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      "Don't Judge Me!"

      Too late sweetie.

      [–]Wargame4life 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Exactly, well put, he looks like he has certainly drunk the kool aid.

      [–]Zuglife99 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      I can't stand people who claim that art is objectifying women or men. People who paint, draw, animate etc are either A) creating what THEY like, or B) what a client wants.

      If I want to draw a woman with big tits and tiny waist, I'm going to do it. If I want to draw a man with huge muscles and 20 inch dick, I will. I don't give a fuck what any SJW has to say about MY fucking artwork.

      On the same note, if a client wants me to draw a woman/man without sexual suggestiveness, I won't. After all, they're paying me.

      Any woman who complains about the art/soundtrack/theme of a game because the women and/or men are sexualized and objectified needs to fuck off. It obviously doesn't cater to your interest, so DON'T BUY IT. Look for games that don't have overtly sexual themes or characters. If you can't find any, then don't participate.

      [–]asanonsb 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      The more the white knights and pussies keep bitching about sexism online and fail to keep up their in-game skills, the more free kills you'll get as a result.

      As long as they don't ruin the Civ. series or Dark Souls with all this shit, I'll be fine.

      [–]Wargame4life 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      When I play video games, I don't see much of an injustice. There are some examples of objectification, but just looking at my PSN profile list of games I've played, there is maybe 2 or 3 games that could be considered promoting women as objects

      You sound absolutely pathetic, there is no injustice there is no objectification THESE ARE GAMES they are fantasy, if people want to play in a world where women are attractive and they get to pilot a space ship or whatever then so be it.

      NOBODY should be telling anyone they cant enjoy or have access to any type of adventure/scenario they desire.

      IF YOU DONT LIKE IT DONT BUY IT, simples.

      [–]1 Endorsed ContributorMeatclap 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      There are some examples of objectification, but just looking at my PSN profile list of games I've played, there is maybe 2 or 3 games that could be considered promoting women as objects. Hell, some games like Mortal Kombat promote men and women as sexual objects, but no one really looks it at that way

      On that line one could argue then that men are objectified more than women. In most games men are targets, that is their only purpose, to be cannon fodder. In some cases they are relegated to targets in ways that are distinctly male, like games that give achievements or bonuses for nut shots; which is in reality a brutal sexual assault. Now let's count the mainstream games that have made women elusively the walking targets. How many games out there give bonuses or achievements for mangling a woman's vagina?

      As for sexual objectification, for every woman in spandex there are many more men, jacked abs, bulging arms, rippling slabs of muscle, in tight body hugging outfits. Not that men and women feel the same way about sexuality, but if fair is fair, there are way more men being unrealistically depicted in video games as ripped masculine gods than there are women.

      [–]tatertotmonkey 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      I agree with the ban hashtag. Women read those books, want you to recreate them in the bedroom...then claim rape later on. Hell no.

      [–]Vioret 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Weird, that exact sentence describes the social justice warriors.

      [–]1 Endorsed ContributorMeatclap 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Intel has legitimized a movement that has shown itself to be anti-feminist,

      Or pro-humanist... or anti-ignorance... or anti-gender biased

      violently protectionist,

      Violently?! What the fu-

      and totally unwilling to share what it sees as its divine right to video games.

      Yeah, because anti-feminists are typically quite pious and bring the thunderous word of GOD to every discussion about video games

      This kind of radical hyperbole is exactly why we're past trying to reason with feminists and their supporters. It's like they won't be happy until they've poked the bear and it bites them, just so they can claim victimhood.

      [–]fortifiedoranges 66 points67 points  (20 children)

      That article was written by someone with no idea why people were actually upset. Good on Intel for not bending over.

      [–]Idle_Redditing 46 points47 points  (19 children)

      Sadly it was written by a guy (I refuse to call him a man).

      [–]fortifiedoranges 38 points39 points  (9 children)

      Hoooooooooooly shit. I thought that was a woman, damn that's sad.

      [–]Redpiller456 20 points21 points  (7 children)

      It is sad. It would suck to be a male video game journalist these days because saying the wrong thing could cost you your job. SJWs have set up this huge witch hunt to lynch dissenters from their pro-"feminist" agenda and it has gained serious traction within the gaming world.

      At this point, there probably isn't much going back. Fortunately, money matters more than politics. Game developers know what their primary demographic is. Men play video games disproportionately more than women, so games like Saints Row and Grand Theft Auto will still exist despite SJW outcry of misogyny. To anyone who has actually played these games, the examples of how women are treated poorly are few and far between.

      [–]Ulquiorra_Schiffer 5 points6 points  (6 children)

      Unless those developers themselves decide that they agree with the SJWs.

      The lead guy on Saints Row has agreed that SR is too much a couple months ago.

      [–]Redpiller456 4 points5 points  (5 children)

      So it's happening already...

      I kind've knew shit would hit the fan someday. The day I saw in my college newspaper that Resident Evil 5, a game that takes place in Africa, was racist because you shoot some black people (in Africa), I knew a SJW crusade was coming. That was about 6 years ago. Now shit is getting pretty out of control...Calls to write more female leads, even at the expense of the storyline (any strong female representation is good representation). I honestly felt like the gaming industry was completely fine like it was before any of this started happening.

      [–]Ulquiorra_Schiffer 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      Its why I like big companies like ubisoft and nintendo. The SJWS bitched about nintendo fixing a game breaking bug that allowed homosexual couples, but you couldnt save the game, and Nintendo told them the bugger off.

      Peta was bitching about being able to go whaling in AC black flag, amd Ubisoft told them to fuck off too.

      They have the money that they dont have to try to suck SJWs cocks.

      Volition and Saints Row on the other hand, were bought out recently but they're still in the hurt for cash I guess.

      [–]tsotha 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      They're not going to do themselves any favors by caving in and alienating their core audience. Too much political correctness in a game makes it dull and likely to sink the franchise.

      Hopefully they'll take a look at Hollywood and think "Hmmm. So we do have to make a product people want instead of just preaching to them."

      [–]TheSKSpecial 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It's funny because Saints Row is one of the most equal-opportunity games out there. Anything you can do with a male character, you can also do with a female, and vice versa . The game treats men and women exactly the same.

      [–]t-_-j 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      People won't buy shitty games though, and money talks louder than feminist nonsense.

      [–]nodoubtgetloud 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      The industry is fine right now as long as you stick to eastern games.

      [–]Misogyny_Hero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Unfortunately the writers for these click bait wankfests are told what to write, and if they don't do it thy are unemployed the next day...

      There were loads of journalists posting anonymously saying shit like this

      [–]jolly--roger 7 points8 points  (5 children)

      [–]Evesest 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      Oh god. You can see the pants cutting off his circulation

      [–]LAMFF 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      He's quite the foppish dandy. Wonder if his whole SJW shtick is getting him any 'tang?

      [–]Evesest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It never does

      [–]Cheveyo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      That's what most of the SJW guys look like. It's like a fucking uniform.

      [–]luciansolaris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I think his type (predecessors) started in the 60s with the whole Wasson/Huxley-devised acid and Dead-Head culture. MKULTRA agents wore tie-dye, not suits! The supersoldier thing is likely a cover-up or red herring.

      [–]redpilltom 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      They like having guys right these types of articles because they believe it gives them legitimacy. Like "see, I'm a guy so I have the authority to say men are horrible!

      Yet when a woman says "it doesn't bother me, these feminists are entitled and crazy" she's a special snowflake brainwashed by the patriarchy.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It was written by a white knight beta... doesn't even deserve the term male, man or guy applied to them because their balls are firmly in their wife/GF's purse.

      [–]brotential 27 points28 points  (0 children)

      I'm fucking loving these delicious butthurt shitlib SJW tears

      [–]mctoasterson 49 points50 points  (5 children)

      The fact is a core constituency of gamers were mad because they don't want every single facet of their lives turned into some bullshit political cause. Whereas the SJW cannot participate in any activity without trying to politicize and "reform" it. It is a mental disorder on their part.

      If certain individuals want to try and build an ultra-feminist "voice" in gaming, they should make their own fucking games and let the market decide. Oh wait, that's not what they're doing - because it's easier just to bitch and whine on the internet and then claim "oppression" when others don't want to listen to it.

      [–]myrafae 10 points11 points  (2 children)

      Gamers would be the ideal community to be fed feminist/SJW ideas. The majority of gamers are not alphas (some gave up on all women so I'm reluctant of calling them betas).

      If the whole approach would've been "We need better written characters in video games (thus better written women in video games) they would've eaten that up. A lot of people are like, as you said, "Go and make a game for women. You are free to do that. But the majority of the market likes our games and it's a financial decision to support us more until someone (you?) has shown the market that it's worthwhile to make other games (for women) as well".

      But the feminist approach is of course to alienate all the people who get shunned by society (thus being driven into being gamers). Where do those people have to go? Nowhere. It's like a frightened animal driven into a corner.
      So when being attacked by "gamers are dead" how do you think that animal will react? It will bite.

      [–]joncho 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      They have been trying the soft aproach but hit nowhere because there is no market for what they are demanding.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Gamers would be the ideal community to be fed feminist/SJW ideas. The majority of gamers are not alphas (some gave up on all women so I'm reluctant of calling them betas).

      Actually... I'd argue the opposite. Gamer culture is probably dominated by blue pill MGTOW types who have dropped out of the race for pussy. They unlike beta males and white knights have nothing to lose by standing up to the feminist movement.

      As the saying goes... sex sells... thats why all the women in these games will be slutty, dressed like Stripperella and have a huge rack... Because that's what guys want to see in their games when real women wont give them the time of day.

      [–]Echelon64 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      hey should make their own fucking games and let the market decide.

      The Borderlands series is very successful last time I checked.

      [–]GenericHusband 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      It is pretty successful, but not because of the "feminist voice"...

      I played both, liked both and never got a sense of, "Wow, that's overtly PC bullshit. Why would they even detriment the integrity of this product with such highly politicized fodder?"

      The games are successful for the same reasons any game is successful, it's good, it's fun and it was marketed well.

      [–]fartknocking 27 points28 points  (8 children)

      What is with the trend of organizations (Gamasutra in this case, ESPN being another example) shitting on their target market?

      SJWs are never going to be a big source of revenue. The fact that they have the time to sit around and bitch all day is indication alone that as a group they do not have much money.

      [–]punis1 9 points10 points  (2 children)

      Women are usually more careless with money and spend way more than men on superfluous stuff

      [–]fartknocking 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Yes, but they are by and large not spending it on watching sports or playing video games (aside from casual fluff).

      [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Women pay for shit like Angry Birds not Call of Duty.

      [–]DexterousRichard 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      I can't believe this shit. Gamasutra used to be hard core full of articles on 3d rendering pipelines and crap that were amazing and required a lot of math to understand.

      Now they are publishing shit like this, and Ars too? Wtf? These two sites used to be hard core technical and factual references! This is pitiful.

      [–]anonlymouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Remember when CNet used to be good? Something similar will happen to all of them.

      [–]1IVIaskerade 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      It's mostly an industry-wide move to cover up corruption in their profession. Everyone knows what happened, but they think that if they shout it down and ignore it (apparently they also think doing both at the same time is not digging them deeper) it'll just go away on its own and we can all return to our happy little lives, innocent of the knowledge of the dirty secrets of how the world really works (much like TRP, incidentally).

      The problem is that their way of dismissing it is to use scorched earth tactics on their own consumers to try to shame them into silence by repeatedly telling them (as if if you repeat something enough it becomes true) how nobody cares about them or their ~opinions~ facts.

      They rely on feminism having ground enough men down that they will just see this and accept is as another "quality" article that this website produces, and keep coming back to them.

      [–]anonlymouse 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      Feminism has a guise of being reasonable, so it was easy for them to infiltrate.

      [–]The_Psychopath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      It's what happens when terrorists threaten somebody. Most terrorists use threats of violence, SJW terrorists use threats of severe harassment and career ruination.

      Boils down to people using terror to get their way and SJWs are terrorists.

      [–]anonlymouse 21 points22 points  (0 children)

      Should have been an archive.today link - when in doubt look at the tone and the content.

      [–]ShinyBrah 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      SJWs need to get out of gaming. You know why so many gamers are men? Most of them saw gaming as the only way to belong because they were tired of being bullied and looked down because they were quiet or not alpha enough. They have the audacity to call us bad people when most of us just wanted to belong.

      [–]forbiddenone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Well those gamers retreated rather than submit, obviously they must be chased to whatever safe space they manage to make for themselves.

      [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (17 children)

      That's fucking hilarious. Maybe someone should start a subreddit dedicated entirely to organizing people to email advertisers who support SJW bullshit. Kick em while they're down.

      [–]1MarcusDavidson 17 points18 points  (12 children)

      That organization would then be labelled a hate group. The real world effect would be to validate SJW victimhood because they would claim hate based censorship.

      For this to work well. The stated goal as to be something other than anti-SJW. Something like: fighting industry corruption, anti-favoritism, etc. Essentially using the same strategies the feminists do. Claim to fight against an injustice but in reality pursue a power politics agenda of destroying a social group. In this case SJWs.

      [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      I'm not so sure being labeled a "hate group" really matters in the context of anonymous online activity unless it directly impairs operations. Since people would be sending emails individually while claiming no affiliation what was said about the group wouldn't really matter provided it didn't cause it to get taken down.

      That said I think that adopting feminist tactics is a great idea.

      [–]RedPill115 5 points6 points  (9 children)

      That organization would then be labelled a hate group. The real world effect would be to validate SJW victimhood because they would claim hate based censorship.

      I don't know. 5 years ago, Emma Watson (or any feminist figure) never would have given a speech saying that "The View Feminism Is 'Man Hating' Has To Stop". Frankly, 10 years ago, there was very little public view that feminism was man hating. 5 years ago you would have been shot down for even suggesting that feminism was man hating. Now a feminist speech has to acknowledge that it's a become a commonly held view...

      Clearly some progress has been made against feminism being able to hide behind a view that it's actually about equality. Even the "feminism is about equality" people are only repeating that because it's become more obvious that feminism is not at all about equality to a lot of society.

      [–]1MarcusDavidson 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      I don't know. 5 years ago, ... any feminist figure never would have given a speech saying that "The View Feminism Is 'Man Hating' Has To Stop".

      The HeForShe speech you are referring to carried a very anti-male message. Ms Watson said this to preemptively stop rebuttals to her anti-male agenda. It's the equivalent of "I'm not racist, but...".

      10 years ago, there was very little public view that feminism was man hating. 5 years ago you would have been shot down for even suggesting that feminism was man hating.

      And today you are labeled "woman-hating" if you support the Mens Rights movement. We don't need to imagine what people who post on TRP get labeled as.

      [–]RedPill115 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Right. I wouldn't go as far as saying that Ms Watson herself feels like she wants an anti-male agenda. She seems to me to be more of the "just doesn't notice how things are for men" type than the "deeply rated disdain for men" type that's running feminism right now. Agree with what you're saying otherwise though.

      And today you are labeled "woman-hating" if you support the Mens Rights movement. We don't need to imagine what people who post on TRP get labeled as.

      It's weird, because if TRP is brought there's a whole lot of hate, but it's not brought up very often. I've been "accussed" of being an MRA several times with far more disdain than accusations of being a red piller. Ironically.

      But people don't ban me any more. It's weird, they're more vicious in their language, but several years ago it was like "say something against feminism and people unfriend you". Now they get mad and say a bunch of crap, but tend not to unfriend you. It's odd. And also, you'll see a lot more guys making a statement that says they think feminism is wrong to.

      But I was reading the last essay on sociopaths on The Gervais Principle, and a lot of things in there really struck me. Also, feminism has reached absurd levels in it's claims. But one of the things that struck me was how sociopaths exploit differences between groups and turn them into schisms for their own benefit.

      Things are usually about sex, or money. Who's really benefitting from what feminism is doing? People at the sociopathic level often set two groups up to fight each other, without appearing to be involved, for their own ends.

      [–]kaspell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I like how the MC just referred to her as a "leading British actor" in the credentials bit before her speech.

      [–]Hoodwink 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      "The View Feminism Is 'Man Hating' Has To Stop"

      Actually, it's been like that for a long time. I think it was "political lesbianism" that did it for most people paying attention to feminism.

      With that said, most people don't actually pay attention to feminism. If they did, they would realize that a lot of its core vocabulary and philosophy is hopeless right from the get-go if they applied rationality to the world.

      [–]RedPill115 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      I don't know how much people pay attention to feminism or not. When in one week you talk to 3 different girls, in 3 totally different social groups, and all 3 repeat almost line for line what "guys" are like - something they weren't saying a week ago - they're reading something. And I think it's source is feminism, though I can't be sure what it is.

      Feminism doesn't work by being in your face, usually. Feminism works by creating a big backstory, where the new story that doesn't make sense by itself suddenly makes sense in context.

      Of course when feminists get laws past, you're suddenly stuck waking up and paying attention. I'm sure you've heard of California's law, combined with them being one of the only states where it's illegal to record surreptitiously and prove that you did have consent.

      Anyways, I wasn't alive before the 80's so I can't say about it's history. :-) It kinda seemed like it got nuts in the 70's, was nicer in the 80's and 90's (though still claiming equality when it meant equality when it meant "we want more"), then had a resurgence of hatred in the last 5 years or so.

      [–]Hoodwink 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I think you're describing a different phenomena, namely the tumblr/twitter/fem-media on the web. But, the origin of the ideas comes with the same strategies that brought you the War on Terror. A multitude of voices and experts all of sudden saying the same thing..

      I actually think a lot of the recent stuff has to do with Hillary's run. They're actively trying to create frothing, excitable political base. Feminism had been lukewarm for years because it basically succeeded and only was fighting for abortion rights against evangelicals. There was no internal enemy or great enemy.

      [–]RedPill115 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I don't think it's Hillary-specific, I could definitely believe they're trying to get people riled up, just like the republicans did in the Obama election. That's politics.

      I don't think it's a different phenomenon though. This stuff has been going on for quite a while. Who says the motivation wasn't essentially the same before?

      This article does a decent job of describing politics in the first couple of pages: http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/25/gamergate-an-issue-with-2-sides/

      Here’s how politics works. There are always two sides. Let’s call them the “reds” and the “blues.”

      If you’re a red, the goal is to make the blues look as bad as possible. If you’re a blue, the goal is to make the reds look as bad as possible. If they do something good, you ignore it. If they do something bad, you let as many people know as possible.

      Have they raised money for a mental health charity? Don’t report that! Did they kickstart a project to help young women get ahead in game development? Definitely don’t report that! Did one of them send someone a death threat? Stop the presses, we need to get the story out now!

      The psychology behind this is interesting. Bias isn’t something that people are consciously aware of. It happens automatically. One of the only ways to become aware of it is through exposure to someone with a competing bias. This is often a very uncomfortable experience, but it it is also one of the few ways to expose yourself to new information.

      Political biases are more resistant to this process than most.

      In politics, bias isn’t a bug – it’s a feature. Advocates for one side or the other do not tend to see their bias as a simple prejudice to certain types of information over others – instead, it’s a matter of morality. People who share the Red bias are good. People who share the Blue bias are evil. Eliezer Yudkowsky was not exaggerating when he said ‘politics is the mind-killer’.

      However, most ordinary people are not political. They dislike agendas. In an age of unlimited information, it’s relatively easy for readers of an article to find out when a story they’ve been told is one-sided, or omits information. It’s also relatively easy for them to complain about it. This is why “don’t read the comments” has become such a popular slogan among those bastions of bias, political op-ed writers.

      If journalists drift too far towards the reds or the blues, their accounts will come to represent a smaller and smaller minority of viewpoints. Confirmation bias will become increasingly severe.

      Non-political readers will notice. Try and suppress their criticism, and they will rebel, forming their own biases in the process.

      [–]1IVIaskerade 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Claim to fight an injustice but in reality pursue a power politics agenda

      I fail to see how being against corruption in journalism isn't fighting an injustice.

      [–]hermit087 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      /r/kotakuinaction is a sub pretty much dedicated to this topic, and they do collaborate a bit on which advertisers they are contacting.

      [–]Cheveyo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I was going to say not to link to there(because that's one of that subreddit's rules), but I think this might one of the few subreddits where the people would generally be cool, even if they don't support it.

      [–]anonlymouse 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      GG's daily boycott is already doing that.

      [–]Idle_Redditing 7 points8 points  (5 children)

      Has the backlash against this Anita Sarkeesian bullshit finally reached the top?

      EDIT: Should have said Anita Sarkeesian-type bullshit.

      [–]AngraMainyuu 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      I believe the "movement" (if you wanna call it that) is just now beginning to gain some traction. It'll be awhile longer before any real long term effects set in.

      [–]anonlymouse 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      Anita doesn't have that much to do with this one actually.

      [–]fortifiedoranges 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      She felt the need to stick her bulbous nose in it though, can't let a good opportunity to score victim cred go to waste!

      [–]Idle_Redditing 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      True, though I do consider her to be the face of feminism pushing their crap into this section of guy space. This is actually more about massive corruption in the gaming press but I couldn't think of a very powerful and concise way to describe it.

      You got anything?

      [–]armenia4ever 13 points14 points  (1 child)

      It's incredible to see what passes for journalism these days. Seriously, what is this shit?

      [–]ShinyBrah 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Gaming journalism is fucking awful, there's probably like two or three good sites.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 16 points17 points  (7 children)

      The only reason gaming communities - much like RP, 4Chan, IRC & deepnet - still exist is because a headless snake without eyes can't be turned to stone by the PC SJW Medusa. All while anyone who wishes to voice dissent or try stirring up chaos in them has to oust their real identity and stands a very real risk of having their life ruined.

      Can't be a pity whore or victim princess when the community you're trying to do it in is aware of TITS or GTFO with all of their identities anonymous and therefore immune to being publicly shamed into compliance. Femjustice knights suddenly unwilling to proceed now that the crusade they're on has a potential risk to them? Color me surprised.

      [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (6 children)

      4chan's userbase may be impervious to criticism but it's creator isn't. Moot is onboard with the whole SJW movement as are his mods - content is being actively censored as of Sept. 20th.

      [–]anonlymouse 12 points13 points  (3 children)

      This is a largely moot point tho, as we now have 8chan.

      [–]squishles 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      They fall for the same fundamental fragmentation flaw reddit has, where you get localized echo chambers. You can go on 8 chan now and make /feminism/ or /sjw/ right now, make a community and go raiding the other boards for jollies.

      [–]anonlymouse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      That's also a moot point, since the only issue was that 4chan had been taken over. All that changed was the venue, everything else is the same.

      [–]Echelon64 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      He's dating a writer for Gawker, j00t is balls deep into the SJW train. Literally.

      [–]rainbowhotpocket 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Hey maybe he's undercover? Probably not but what if

      [–]LineOfCoke 13 points14 points  (7 children)

      Yeah, playing angry birds or flappy bird or Farmville doesn't make you a gamer. Also owning a console and a few platformers you play every now and then when you find time, is not the Sam as being a gamer.

      [–]Redpiller456 11 points12 points  (5 children)

      Exactly.

      I casually play games, but at least I'm not a retard like the SJWs that can't understand men are the primary demographic for video games. It's because men play console/PC games (not mobile games) more often and when comparing the amount of men that play video games for at least 20 hours per week compared to women, the ratio is 7:1. It's a no-brainer that games will therefore be catered to a male audience.

      Just goes to show that any male space must be infiltrated and dismantled in the name of "equality." There was nothing wrong with video games the way they were 10 years ago, and there's still nothing wrong with them now. The choice to not include female avatars was a practical one, considering men almost exclusively played games years ago. But you bet your ass that when some women started to play games, there was a huge political agenda pushed, and the lack of female characters was used as an argument for a misogynistic industry.

      [–]LineOfCoke 10 points11 points  (3 children)

      Yeah there's no rational acknowledgement that when the consumer is predominantly male, and the financers and designers are overwhelming male, that the product WILL AND SHOULD be male oriented. The first time I played Resident Evil, I chose Jill, I'm not petty about that sorta thing. What I don't like is SJWs making a politically correct battleground out of my favorite lifelong pastime.

      [–]Redpiller456 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      The first time I played Resident Evil, I chose Jill

      I actually did the same exact thing, and I was pretty young when I first played the RE series. I never even thought about female vs. male characters because it made no difference to me (and probably not to anyone else either). Bayonetta was also a great game (female lead). Plenty of examples of well done female characters in the distant past that did not come out as a result of SJW pressure.

      But now you can absolutely tell when a female character has been shoe-horned into the narrative and it really does sort of ruin the experience of playing the game a bit. Velocity 2x, for example. Awesome game, but the story was stinky shit and bothered me because it tried so hard to prop up the strong and independent female heroine trope. It was just too try-hard for me, and this is coming from someone who has played games with females characters plenty of times in the past.

      [–]GenericHusband 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      When I think of strong, well-written female characters in games, I think of Alyx Vance first and foremost. When a video game character's nearly inaudible pleading whispers of "Don't leave me." to her father's fresh corpse can leave your mouth agape, eyes wide, skin cold and heart stopped, you've got yourself a good female character.

      [–]Newdist2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      The first time I played Resident Evil, I chose Jill

      If I'm going to spend 40 hours staring at a video game character's butt, well....

      [–]Ulquiorra_Schiffer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I think they do realize that, subconsciously at least, and that is why they are trying to shame them for liking things they don't like, so what they like becomes the primary market.

      [–]Flytape 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Typical Sam,

      Always trying too hard to be a gamer. Spends 8 hours making Wii women so his living room isn't a digital sausage party.

      [–]Snoctopus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      The tone and title of the article you linked have so much spin it I couldn't even finish reading it. I guess you should expect as much when a SJW is the one "reporting" the issues that are being experienced by... Another SJW

      [–]1 Endorsed Contributorjsl2837 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      The hashtag [#GamerGate] was reportedly first used by actor Adam Baldwin when he made reference on Twitter to independent game developer Zoe Quinn.

      Yes, based Adam Baldwin who played Animal Mother in Full Metal Jacket and Jayne Cobb in the Firefly TV series.

      [–]iamnotfromtexas90 6 points7 points  (2 children)

      God, but even The Verge seems to be biased to SJW. Just the headline seems pro-SJW. Intel buckles to anti-feminist campaign by pulling ads from gaming site. They paint a pictures of brutes attacking poor, meek women who then forced Intel to stop supporting women and children. The actual article only proves my point. The author seems to be knowledgeable concerning the entire #GamerGate situation, bitter, and legitimately upset that anyone could ever think to not bow down to their oh-so perfect and god given 'liberal ideals.'

      [–]1 Endorsed Contributorjsl2837 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      The Verge belongs to Vox Media, which is run by Ezra Klein (in Feb 2007, he created JournoList, a private Google Groups discussion forum for left-leaning journalists, which was shut down in June 2010 after it was publicly exposed).

      [–]iamnotfromtexas90 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Makes sense. Vox and Klein make me sick to my stomach. I never read the Verge much, but never really liked it. Now, I'm glad to officially hate it. And I wouldn't call Klein just left leaning. He's basically an unofficial communist.

      [–]Flytape 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Intel has legitimized a movement that has shown itself to be anti-feminist, violently protectionist...

      Violently protectionist?

      Get the fuck out of here feminists. Pulling an ad is hardly 'violent protectionism' its call a boycott. They are boycotting your stupid shit because its a grand waste of everyone's time.

      They violently pulled advertising and cost us money! This is literally a holocaust!

      [–]forbiddenone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Violence is whatever they say it is.

      [–]morph85 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      The article was written by this chick https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000511103484/7c3f2db917f442fc24fec47e6ba252eb_400x400.png

      | "The #GamerGate hashtag is inextricably linked to campaigns of harassment and its proponents have been demonstrably manipulated by a small number of people who want to hurt others for fun. Until now it has had no major successes, but by giving in to its demands and pulling its advertising from Gamasutra, Intel has legitimized a movement that has shown itself to be anti-feminist, violently protectionist, and totally unwilling to share what it sees as its divine right to video games."

      Cry me a river, bitch. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if he did cry a bit.

      [–]we_r_legun1993 12 points13 points  (10 children)

      Seriously, is there any reason NOT to like Intel?

      [–]anonlymouse 13 points14 points  (3 children)

      Microcode can be updated so if you're concerned about not being spied on (through use of OpenBSD) then you wouldn't want an Intel chip, because even if it were audited they could ship the same chip with updated after that audit to end users. For that, an ARM chip might be a better idea, an audit could confirm if it's compromised in any way.

      If you're not going to be running OpenBSD or something equally secure (not sure what that would be), then that isn't much of a problem.

      [–]smile_e_face 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Don't AMD chips support microcode updates since Barcelona? I confess to not knowing much of anything about ARM.

      [–]anonlymouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      That wouldn't surprise me, particularly since they have to be compatible. That's why I said ARM would have to be the alternative.

      [–]2asd1100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      [–]1IVIaskerade 0 points1 point  (4 children)

      They keep teasing us about i9?

      [–]anonlymouse 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      Who would want one, an i5 performs just as well as an i7 for 1/3 the price, I don't think they could make a chip that's meaningfully more powerful.

      [–]CauisCosades 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Exactly, you're better off putting the difference between an i5 and i7 toward a better GPU.

      [–]1IVIaskerade 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      It's the really high-end performance where the i7 does better, and where the i9 will do better still.

      It's (apparently) going to be a six-core processor, and whilst it won't increase the basic function speed much (the boot time, for example, will be pretty much the same), it's when you get into intensive tasks like video game graphics processing that having two more cores is a great help.

      [–]anonlymouse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      If two more cores would make a difference, then the FX-8350 would be killing it. Single threaded performance is the most important for all but a couple games. Multi threaded performance becomes relevant for certain non-game applications.

      [–]Sufferix 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      How does Verge link to it's own article as a source, about something that people have proven is false (Anita didn't receive threats or if she did, she didn't report them to the authorities).

      Journalism at it's finest.

      [–]Be-The-Change 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      It is worth noting that it hasn't just been Gamasutra folding to the SJW Agenda. This has been a concentrated effort over the last 7+ years headed by academic feminists (from an association called DiGRA) to invade and contort the video game industry. I suggest checking out /r/kotakuinaction, www.8chan.co/gg/, and the youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWB0dvorHvkQlgfGGJR2yxQ if you're any kind of a gamer and would like to know more.

      [–]dreckmal 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      This article is terrible, and only highlights the fucking problem with the whole shit-show that 'gaming' journalism is. It would be nice if there was proof one way or the other about whether either of the chicks (Quinn or Sarkeesian) received actual death threats.

      The article doesn't discuss the ethical question that are still up in the air. I am going to go back to pre-interent gaming mode, where I hear about games from buddies, and then I play those games. Fuck the journalists, fuck the SJWs, and frankly, fuck just about every body else.

      [–]Cheveyo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Honestly, just scan through gaming subreddits and gaming sale site libraries(Steam, Greenman Gaming, Amazon, etc).

      If you see a game that looks interesting, look it up on youtube and watch someone play it. Keep in mind that some LPers have extremely irritating voices, though.

      [–]Azothlike 3 points4 points  (3 children)

      Really, I get the feeling this whole nonsense started because of the ESA's massively misleading survey, that was designed to paint women as equal/larger portion of the video game demographic.

      [–]Redpiller456 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      It already has colored the perception extensively. Look anywhere where this issue is being discussed (even Reddit) and you'll see at least one or two people point out that study. They fail to mention, probably because they are ignorant, that other studies have been done comparing the amount of men to women that play video games for at least 20 hours a week. The ratio was 7:1 in favor of men.

      [–]Azothlike 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Time played, money spent, etc. Every piece of actually useful data would favor men incontestably.

      But, as everyone should know, if you control the data collected in a survey, and you control the definition of everything in the survey, you can control the conclusions the survey draws.

      In this circumstance, they refused to ask how much time people spent playing, how much money they spent, and what games they played.

      The result, is comparing a bunch of 30 year old women playing Farmville at work, to a bunch of guys playing actual AAA video games AND stupid mobile games, and saying "they all play video games, survey done."

      You can stand in a GameStop for a day and see otherwise. You can to a video game streaming site, like twitch.tv, where being female is practically a direct financial bonus, and still see direct evidence that the market is overwhelmingly male.

      When it comes down to it, this purposely slanted ESA survey roughly coincided with the outcry for better female representation, and my observation is that is due to the onslaught of Professional Victims comparing the target demographic of video game developers to the vague ESA data.

      [–]anonlymouse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      There's also a point that most female gamers just play a single game regularly, while male gamers play a bunch.

      [–]grateday 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Amazing. His them in the pocket and watch them panic.

      [–]aa223 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      This is an admirable start, but we need to keep going and ride the momentum. We need to show these advertisers who holds the power here. Once we are done securing our video game base then it is back to business as usual. Preferably we should counter-attack from multiple fronts and remember that we won't take any bullshit that comes our way.

      [–]mechakingghidorah 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I'm glad men are finally uniting and sticking up against this kind of thing.

      [–]MrPeachy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      This 'the verge' website suddenly started spewing feminist propaganda from one moment to the other. This is not the first time I see them doing this sort of thing.

      It's a shame, I really liked the site before. With Gizmodo being another piece of shit I think I'm left with engadget.

      [–]sevenStarsFall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Just remember every time you link to a story like this, you are giving the author money.

      You could have copy-and-pasted it, or just summarized it for exactly the same informative value, but without giving this pus bag money.

      [–]JablesRadio 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      You can pretty much thank 4chan, notably /v/, for this.

      [–]FrozenTomatoEater 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      GamerGate is about ending censorship, corruption and collusion in gaming journalism. And SJWs are at the heart of all of it. They've already resorted to dirty tactics such as posting personal information of GameGaters.

      A more positive article on the Intel pullout at http://www.everyjoe.com/2014/10/03/news/gamergate-intel-pulls-ads-from-gamasutra/

      [–]QQ_L2P 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Why is this linked directly to the site? You're giving them clicks.

      [–]EscortVoyeurAdmin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      This doesn't really have anything to do with feminism or SJWs as much as the SJWs wish it did.

      Gamers are a major market for Intel's highest-priced, highest-margin single-socket CPUs. A website published an article denigrating these gamers lined up to buy new releases: "Television cameras pan across these listless queues, and often catch the expressions of people who don’t quite know why they themselves are standing there." Of course Intel is going to pull advertising.

      It's the same thing that Nike would do to a website that published an article talking about people lined up for limited-edition sneakers: "Television cameras pan across these listless queues, and often catch the expressions of people who don’t quite know why they themselves are standing there." Nike's advertising would all be gone by the next morning.

      Frankly, I think lining up for video games is moronic. I think lining up for limited-edition sneakers is moronic too. But I'm not asking Intel or Nike to give me Reddit Gold.

      [–]TehRedBirdCall 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      What are these videos everyone is talking about? I've never seen them. What is Gamergate? Are they Pro Red Pill or against?

      [–]hermit087 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Look up Internet Aristocrat on youtube. Though honestly its a lot of information to absorb, so it might not be worth the trouble if you are not really interested in the topic.

      Gamergate is the red pill side though, its a backlash against SJW influence in video game development and journalism.

      [–]1IVIaskerade 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      TL;DR version:

      Indie developer sleeps with gaming journalists in return for positive articles about her games. When this is revealed, games "journalists" close ranks and attempt to decry the people's questions as "sexism" and "harrassment" against the woman in an attempt to deflect attention from their accountability and corruption.

      There's more - the woman claimed to be an SJW but was basically a scheming bitch who lied through her teeth about pretty much everything, and the "game journals" like Kotaku and RockPaperShotgun were revealed to all be on a secret mailing list that had them collaborating on damage control, but the above paragraph sums it up.

      [–]deville05 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Explain it to me like im a 5yr old

      [–]1 Endorsed Contributorjsl2837 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.860762-GamerGate-Discussion-Debate-and-Resources:

      Where did it come from?

      GamerGate is a recent, wide-ranging controversy that began in late August 2014 as a direct result of the seemingly corrupt and wildly unprofessional behavior of the gaming press. On August 16, Eron Gjoni, ex-boyfriend of developer Zoe Quinn published a blog on wordpress called The Zoe Post. In this blog, he alleged that Quinn cheated on him with several members of the video game industry, one of whom was a writer for Kotaku. This post created a substantial uproar in the gaming community. Some took the post as license to attack Quinn, while many, many others were incensed by the relationship and potential for conflicts of interest it presented in Grayson's reporting.

      Overwhelmingly, the gaming press responded to this in a markedly different fashion from previous, similar allegations and began a campaign of censorship. On nearly every gaming-related website, from user-driven sites like Reddit and NeoGAF to contributor-driven sites like Kotaku, any discussion of the topic, or even topics almost completely unrelated, was quenched immediately and without question. Even a handful of 4chan's moderators came into play and tried to silence the discussion.

      This nearly universal response and behavior pattern, wildly outside the normal bounds of the sites in question, made many people suspicious of collusion or conspiracy and questions began to be asked. Such as why it was considered acceptable for a professional journalist to have sex with a subject. Or why there was a nebulous network of financial support between developers and journalists through the use of websites like Patreon. Or even simply if ethical standards existed in the gaming journalism industry.

      Major industry figures confirmed that these issues existed and insisted that they were not a problem. Then on August 28/29, 11 gaming news sites (Gamasutra, DailyDot, Kotaku, Polygon, and several others) published articles declaring some variation of 'Gamers are Dead' and that any and all calls for better journalism were made only as cover for 'neckbearded misogynerds' to harass women. This incensed a large portion of their audience and even reached well known actor Adam Baldwin, who coined the Twitter hashtag #gamergate upon his getting involved, which the movement has since adopted as its moniker.

      In the ensuing weeks, gamers and the entrenched gaming press have been at odds over the issues of honest and ethical reporting laid out against claims of anonymous harassment and threats.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      How come males haven't organized to ban the stuff females like?

      We can't even get proper divorce rights.

      [–]idontwantaredditacct -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      why care about this crap? videogames suck shit nowadays and videogames 'journalism' has always been clever marketing