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[–]sweetgene05 161 points162 points  (20 children)

Lena Dunham and her false rape story is Top 10 worthy

[–]popthatpill 128 points129 points  (7 children)

Not to mention Dunham's actual rape story, where she fessed up to molesting her sister and got precisely zero criticism for it.

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    [–]through_a_ways 36 points37 points  (0 children)

    Not just her sister but her toddler sister. A fucking toddler.

    Whom she continued to molest into adulthood, while the sister was still 12 or so, legally making her a pedophile (and just a disgusting person regardless of what the law is).

    [–]Menadian 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    A danish proverb that is very fitting for her is:" Tyv tror hver mand stjæler". Translated it means:" A thief thinks every man is stealing". Of course she attacks men for her own crimes.

    [–]1Watermelon_Salesman 63 points64 points  (2 children)

    It is, but I'm glad it didn't make the list. No more publicity for that fat, lying slob.

    [–]get_real_quick 17 points18 points  (1 child)

    Seriously, how does this bitch still have a social license to speak

    [–]ThePedanticCynic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    There is nothing about feminism that is rational, right, or understandable to the mentally stable.

    [–]TheThingsIThink 20 points21 points  (0 children)

    Am I the only one on that thought Cosby was offered up after decades of skating to take attention from Dunham

    [–]4_YRT 35 points36 points  (0 children)

    Lena Dunham is truly a disgusting human being. She is to feminism what Hitler is to Fascism; i.e. the personification of everything that is wrong with it.

    [–]pl231 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Lena Dunham, brought to you by the same exact college where the students told the profs that students shouldn't receive failing grades for doing poorly in class, since they decided to attend protests instead. Oberlin College. Funny how connected all this bullshit is.

    [–]brotherjustincrowe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Nothing in this world exists in a vacuum.

    [–]Luckyluke23 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    she needs to die in a grease fire.

    [–]ExistentialDread 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Make that a hotel fire. I want her to run around coughing and confused first.

    [–]thefinalshoutdown 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Any fire in which Dunham dies will at some point become a grease fire.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Agreed, but it wasn't my top ten list, it was from the link. I just selected my five favorite from her list.

    [–]RedPill_S 198 points199 points  (66 children)

    You forgot to include the catcalling video where they found maybe 1 minute of "catcalling" out of supposedly 6 hours of footage following a busty bitch in yoga pants walking in nyc and edited out all the white guys.

    [–]zwiebelsaft 69 points70 points  (2 children)

    busty bitch in yoga pants walking in nyc

    There was a video that appeared in my FB news feed where a really attractive woman literally had jeans painted on her as she walked around NYC and nobody even noticed.

    [–]5 Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 87 points88 points  (27 children)

    and edited out all the white guys.

    I'm curious about this claim. So yeah, obviously most of the catcallers in that video were black dudes, and that rustled some femi-jimmies because SJW's prefer for the villains of their narrative to be white. So then the chick goes on to claim that she... edited out the white guys? What?

    With this claim, she was either:

    A) Lying; there were few or no white catcallers, but she was just saying there were to fuel the white-devil narrative that SJW's preferred, or

    B) Telling the truth; there were both black and white catcallers, but she edited out the white guys, in which case she is a racist piece of shit.

    She's a piece of shit either way.

    [–]garlicextract 27 points28 points  (10 children)

    The majority of catcallers likely were non-white. There were indeed some white catcallers. The creator of the video gave a hackeneyed, bullshit explanation like "there was a siren in the background" and that's why all the white guys were edited out.

    [–]Justice-Beever 49 points50 points  (6 children)

    He claims the racial breakdown was 50-50 but apparently EVERY SINGLE TIME a white guy made a remark there was a siren in the background or the audio was fuzzy. What are the odds?!

    [–]Redrog1 80 points81 points  (2 children)

    Probability is a social construct created by the Patriarchy, you shitlord.

    [–]anonlymouse 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    The patriarchy was controlling the sirens anyway.

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      [–]anonlymouse -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

      Panasonic with a Leica lens? Axis of Evil right there!

      [–]NWH60 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      i don't know about you guys, but I always keep a siren on me when I'm out cat callin'. Looks like the tactic works

      [–]Purpledrank 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      There weren't any white cat callers though. I wouldn't call "Hi, how are you doing?" cat calling. Feminism is incredibly successful if people even here, of all places, think that is cat calling.

      [–]garlicextract 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      How would you know? Did you edit all the white guys out or what?

      [–]anonlymouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Feminism certainly is one of the most successful con jobs of all time.

      [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      Someone pieced together her route and turns out she was in Harlem almost the entire time. It was a set up

      [–]mistajaymes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      she walked around harlem. so yeah, minorities.

      she also said in the comments that she get her boyfriend from a cold approach/unsolicited advance on the subway.

      good times

      [–]Seishuu 0 points1 point  (4 children)

      She never claimed that, we did

      [–]5 Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 67 points68 points  (3 children)

      Robert Bliss, the guy who's company edited the video, said in a Reddit post that has now been deleted, "We got a fair amount of white guys, but for whatever reason, a lot of what they said was in passing, or off camera."

      In other words, he's hamstering the fact he either A) didn't catch any white guys, or B) edited them out.

      [–]Seishuu 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      That's hilarious, I must say

      [–]cantletthatstand 15 points16 points  (0 children)

      Isn't it? I thought it was delicious. They were "making a point" and were real proud of themselves for all of about ten minutes, before they realized that there was a gunshot wound in their foot.

      [–]1Zanford 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      He probably claimed that b/c he figured he would seem ANTI-racist ('white guys catcall too!')...then after posting it he realized, SHIT, he made himself look racist (b/c now he admits to editing out white guys), so he deleted it.

      [–]91239477348238942983 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Maybe of the few takes she had in which white guys had fulfilled her parameters the shots were not usable. And what she means is that the scenes were not included during the editing process. This is one explanation for what she meant, though not necessarily the only one.

      [–]dan_legend 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I don't understand the point you're trying to make here. That white people don't catcall? I mean, like you said, either way they are a bag a of dicks.

      [–]Kurikka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Socioeconomic class is probably a factor in cat calling. That might explain the results

      [–]16 Endorsed Contributornicethingyoucanthave 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      What's more, there are several of these videos (serious ones, I'm not talking about parodies) and they all show the same thing: men of low socioeconomic class.

      Here's an example - basically, the street harassment thing is privileged white women yelling at lower class men. Watch that video and marvel at how quite frankly mean that women seems to an old man who said "hi."

      And furthermore, what we're told about street harassment is totally out of proportion to what's shown in the video. Not a single rude comment was recorded. Not one. No gendered slurs. Certainly no touching. That one guy in the "10 hours" video followed her, and that was very clearly out of line, but on closer inspection he's a panhandler who saw the camera and probably thought he would be in a commercial or something.

      [–]brotherjustincrowe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      One was staged from the get-go, with hired actors who were duped into participating. They were unsurprisingly displeased and I believe sued the creator.

      [–]Purpledrank 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      There was white 1 guy in the video. It was super brief and entirely forgettable. He said something like "hi how are you doing?" Didn't get a response so quickly just said "have a nice day". ...CALL THE RAPE AMBULANCE!!

      [–]dan_legend 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      CALL THE RAPE AMBULANCE!!

      That's only if he's ugly. Or geeky.

      [–]Santo26 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      i love that straight talking

      [–]JackGetsIt 44 points45 points  (7 children)

      This phenomena of women getting upset for men catcalling them is totally insane to me. Women collectively force men to be the initiators in the sexual market place; then they bitch about the repercussions of that strategy.

      Ask a women how she feels once she hits a certain age when the catcalls stop and almost universally you will hear sorrow, remorse, fake relief, regret, and even anger that men don't hit on them anymore. Hell women brag to each other about the attention they get in public. I wonder how many thousands of women on facebook have status updates on the hot guy that hit on them outside the club and three spots down is the same catcalling video post with some feminist empowerment rant. The reality is that they simply don't like attention from low value males. Feminism is simply a tool to suppress low value males. Holy shit the cognitive dissonance in the average modern western women is enough to make my own head explode.

      [–]Redrog1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Catcalling complains is just humble bragging off the rails.

      [–]through_a_ways 12 points13 points  (1 child)

      Women collectively force men to be the initiators in the sexual market place; then they bitch about the repercussions of that strategy.

      Only if they're low SMV

      Otherwise, no complaints

      [–]anonlymouse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Yeah, they bitch about cat calling of other women, because they're not getting any attention, and then to make themselves feel better they make stories about being harassed (they can't make up stories about guys hitting on them because then they'll have to explain why they don't have dates).

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        [–]PedroIsWatching 59 points60 points  (4 children)

        Don't forget how saying "have a nice day"to a pissed-off looking woman walking by is now literally rape.

        [–]Gigem_longhorns 50 points51 points  (3 children)

        Imagine a rap battle. One fellow has been spewing words faster than an auctioneer and using words like sycophant and belligerent. Everyone in the audience is entranced. He ends his spiel an looks at his challenger with contempt.

        The other rapper swallows a couple times then says verbatim "Hey, hey, you. Have a nice day."

        Crowd goes wild. The "oooooooo's" are thunderous as he drops his mic and walks of stage. People still talk about how that fellow was rapped.

        [–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        Reminds me of that gif. Someone who knows link it? You know what I'm talking about.

        [–]RC_5213 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        [–]That_Drunk_Dude -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        I'm on my mobile so I don't have a link. But the YouTube video is titled "The Rap Battle (Parody)"

        [–]Sirinon 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        I love how they completely ignored the rebuttal in which they got an extremely attractive male model to walk around nyc for 10 hours, he advances he got were 10 times more full on, to the point of being felt up / grabbed by women and gay men.

        [–]1Watermelon_Salesman 19 points20 points  (16 children)

        One thing I never accepted about that video is she claimed she walked for 6 or 10 hours in one day. I simply do not believe that.

        [–]anonlymouse 4 points5 points  (13 children)

        Not hard to believe at all. 10 hours is nothing.

        [–]1Watermelon_Salesman 13 points14 points  (10 children)

        With that waistline? No fscking way.

        [–]SenorPuff 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        There's barely enough daylight in one day with buildings that tall.

        [–]thecoyote23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        She may be full of shit but it's actually pretty easy to spend all day walking in NYC.

        [–]I_HaveAHat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        And claiming its sexual harassment

        [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Wasn't my top ten list, it was from the link. I just selected my five favorite from her list.

        [–]khxddr 96 points97 points  (15 children)

        The Rotherham bit is especially galling. It's all fun and games shit testing college boys, but when it's time to call out real rape culture they stay silent so their multiculturalist friends can't one up them on tolerance.

        I don't give a shit about radical muslims or even the rape gangs. They're an insignificant minority. But the fact that the average third world immigrant gets to spread atrocious values unopposed terrifies me. Why aren't all the RP-hating feminists shitting their pants over increased immigration?

        [–]Guntlips 50 points51 points  (0 children)

        They're more concerned over "eye rape" on the subway rather than RAPE rape going on in other countries.

        [–]Redrog1 31 points32 points  (1 child)

        That one is disgusting.

        Its one thing to be excessively sensitive and hysterical about the bad things or dangers you see around. But turning a blind eye to something like that while still being hysterical about lesser offenses shows they don't give a shit and are just using people's suffering to further their particular agenda. These people are scum.

        [–]khxddr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        using people's suffering to further their particular agenda

        Even worse, if we were to actually stand up for the values they claim to uphold, they'd be more than happy to attack us for being racist. And the world slowly but surely becomes a less tolerant place.

        [–]ShitLordXurious 16 points17 points  (7 children)

        Indeed. I've just been "discussing" the Rotherham incidents with some butthurt SJWs in r/subredditdrama.

        Apparently, to them, rape is everywhere in the UK, because of our "atrocious" rape culture, EXCEPT in the muslim community (the only place one could argue that it actually exists).

        When it comes to Rotherham, SJWs are all excuses, and even complete denial that anything even happened - "what muslim rape gangs?"

        So for any wannabe rapists that actually read this sub, there is now a proven method to get away with rape in the UK: be muslim! That way, you are the only males in the country completely free from feminist suspicion, and who they will even defend!

        [–]Redpillonlyaccount -1 points0 points  (2 children)

        Except they didn't get away with it despite what you might think. They're all in prison now finally.

        [–]ShitLordXurious -1 points0 points  (1 child)

        10 years immunity is a pretty good run though.

        [–]Redpillonlyaccount 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Yeah I'm not trying to play down the enormity of their crimes but at least they've been punished unlike Jimmy Savile or Cyril Smith.

        [–]through_a_ways -5 points-4 points  (3 children)

        be muslim!

        If you take away the anti-scientific tradition (and the ban on alcohol), Islam is objectively pretty sweet.

        Then again, the west has its own anti-scientific tradition as well.

        [–]Endorsed Contributorcocaine_face 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        It didn't always have the anti-scientific tradition (at least, not as strongly as now), and the ban on alcohol is pretty loosely enforced in most places. The majority of Muslim countries allow Muslims to buy alcohol.

        [–]tropicalpolevaulting 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        and the ban on alcohol is pretty loosely enforced in most places

        I won't say when, but my pops used to work in Iraq quite some time ago (not during the wars) and told me how hypocritical they can be.

        During Ramadan, after sunset, he used to go to a local bar, go in the back with a few other white guys and muslims and start drinking. They didn't overdo it and kept it relatively quite but still, twas a party!

        [–]Endorsed Contributorcocaine_face 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Yeah, my impression about most religious rules (and rules in general) is, "don't be an ass or make a fool of yourself, don't make a public spectacle, don't cause us any trouble or make us make you a scapegoat, and we'll basically ignore you because nobody really cares at the end of the day. We disagree with you, but whatever, your life"

        [–]Endevour 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        This was written on the twoxhamsters thread about rotherham, by /u/pharmaceus. It's a very good analysis on why modern feminism systematicly betrays their own ideals to stay relevant.

        This is not "feminist's failure". You can only call it a failure if you genuinely believe that politicized feminism is really concerned about the ideals and principles they promote. Only it's like saying that neoconservatives believe in freedom and democracy. People need to understand that 'feminism' has a political identity of its own which is very very different from what it purports to be on the outside and what it tells its supporters. I remember my first visit to the States around the time of Iraq War 2 and I couldn't believe how many people believe that it was all about freedom and democracy. All the time it was just a ruse to get people's support so that Cheneys and Rumsfelds of the world would stay in power and earn money. That's exactly what happened to feminism some time ago (and happens to every single established political movement in fact) and what happens beyond the closed doors after everyone is told about fairness, freedom and gender equality for everyone. It's the old "you folks believe what we told you, we have business to attend to".

        Here's why nothing was being said about it:

        For the "feminists" which run modern feminist movement in America it's quite risky to alienate their left-wing supporters and their left-wing colleagues in Europe by siding with women against policy of multi-culturalism so as not to appear racist. You have to understand that in Britain feminists (political) support some quite ridiculous measures in the name of multi-culturalism. They have been for years and they've built support networks which live off this stuff by bashing every single person who complained about it as a "chauvinist", "racist", "white supremacist". They've done it in the misguided sense of fighting for lofty ideals but also to accumulate political allies. This is really why third wave feminism is all about ethnicity... It's not about genuine fight for freedom but about maintaining relevance in a changing political landscape. After all what's the use for feminists if we suddenly (oh heavens no!) arrived at social equality tomorrow? So they adapt and evolve but in the same process they have to start picking their battles and averting eyes where it's too politically risky to get engaged. Here's the real tragedy here.. I really think not a single one of those people was less than appalled at what they suspected was going on. They knew. But a the same time they'd be shooting their carefully built political structure in the foot if they went openly against the policies they naively supported and fought for so ardently.

        It's the same with abortion, contraception, issues of men's rights, pay gaps, childcare, family support etc etc. Whenever an issue of equality and fairness as regular people understand it conflicts with a broader leftist agenda which they need more - it's ignored. And often it's ignored even though they knew very well they should speak against it. But it's this... or problems. Ultimately they don't care about being martyrs for the good cause anymore. They don't have anything to loose other than dignity and life like the pioneers of the women's liberation movement.They have positions of power, good jobs, places in the government and the media... Too much at stake now.... While it is by no means the whole explanation to the phenomenon I need to point out that this is precisely why so many people reject the notion of "feminism" as representing ideals of gender equality and fairness. This is why so many people put feminism decisively as a broader leftist movement that is monopolizing the notions of equality and fairness to push their own self-perpetuating agenda. This is why people go on the internet saying "they don't need feminism" or rejecting the label. This is a result of the calculated betrayal of principles for the sake of maintaining political relevance. It's bad in America but believe me it's even worse in Britain. Feminism -the political movement - betrayed women, and betrayed everyone who believes in equality and fairness because nowadays you either subscribe to their politically motivated interpretation... or you're a primitive conservative and oppressive sexist. People joke that feminism is the new Bolshevism... and so often it seems they're right.

        EDIT: Since it's getting late I'm expecting a shower of downvotes from tumblr feminists in this sub who are here heartily engaged in ideological self-denial. I can't for the life of me understand how people can be so blind.... do you really care about feeling good about being a social justice warrior so much that you will ignore the trappings of power, corruption and dirty reality of dealing in politics while doing something to genuinely help those in need? Are you really that arrogant that you can't accept that every movement no matter how idealistic has dark sides and is comprised of corruptible, ignorant humans? People here say how in America feminism was a movement of bored middle-class housewives. I don't know if that's true but definitely the overwhelming majority of self-identified feminists on the Internet are doing this to feel better about themselves.

        There will be no Gandhis or MLK's there.

        [–]Grimpillmage 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Long story short: Malala gets shot in the face for wanting to go to school. A 20-something woman in New Delhi gets raped so hard with an iron rod that her intestines fall out, but Feminism (tm) is more worried that someone may have been mean to a white chick over the Internet.

        It's exactly why I don't give a shit about those lying harpies. The whole thing has only ever been for the sake of rich, white women.

        [–]RPL23 -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

        But the fact that the average third world immigrant gets to spread atrocious values unopposed terrifies me.

        For the sake of reason, qualify that statement for me. With evidence.

        Edit: downvotes are no substitute to a fact-based well-reasoned rebuttal, bros. just FYI. what's the point about mentioning reason is paramount to TRP when we're not using it to defend claims? cmon.

        [–]khxddr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        You're getting downvoted because it's visible everywhere if you start paying attention.

        Here's a good start:

        http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/07/muslims-britain-france-germany-homosexuality

        "None of the 500 British Muslims interviewed believed that homosexual acts were morally acceptable."

        Notice that even when they say French muslims are more tolerant than British muslims, that really just means French muslims are less conservative, not that they're actually open minded.

        [–]Lapidarist 52 points53 points  (12 children)

        You know what's risky? Although these outrageous feminist stories seem to be detrimental to the reputation of feminism, I'm hardly sure it is. Because now, we're having these so-called "moderate/reasonable feminists" sprouting up all over the place - and trust me, they are the ones to be wary of since they're the most likely to advance feminist agenda.

        I'm sure you've seen it happen before on reddit; you've got an empty-headed circlejerk going on about how these radical feminists are nuts, and then suddenly a "moderate feminist" jumps in, denounces the actions of this "loud, vocal minority", and scores enormeous amounts of upvotes and whiteknights left and right praising "reasonable feminism".

        See, everybody can agree on fringe phenomena because they're often so detached from common norms and values that almost nobody feels personally threatened by them. However, venture just a bit over into "reasonable/moderate" territory and you'll find yourself stuck in a tougher place than Andrea Dworkin's asscrack because, now, you're in the potential controversy-zone, and people want nothing to do with that.

        That's why these extreme feminist fiasco's bug me to a certain degree. They're entertaining, I agree, but at the same time they distract from the real menace that is modern-day, "moderate feminism". Radical feminists never really got anything done in politics - "moderate" feminists however...I believe we've got one called Hillary coming our way in the upcoming presidential elections.

        [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

        Agreed that the "moderates" provide cover and indoctrination that enables the "extremists." If they're "active" at all, i.e. not just a brainwashed sympathizer, they're the enemy, "moderate" or not.

        [–]a-memorable-fancy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Five bucks if they compare SRS to TRP.

        [–]anonlymouse 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        I'm sure you've seen it happen before on reddit; you've got an empty-headed circlejerk going on about how these radical feminists are nuts, and then suddenly a "moderate feminist" jumps in, denounces the actions of this "loud, vocal minority", and scores enormeous amounts of upvotes and whiteknights left and right praising "reasonable feminism".

        Just challenge them on MRA talking points, they'll quickly reveal themselves to be lunatics too.

        [–]fiat_lux_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        You're describing motte and bailey tactics.

        http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2014/09/motte-and-bailey-doctrines/

        A Motte and Bailey castle is a medieval system of defence in which a stone tower on a mound (the Motte) is surrounded by an area of pleasantly habitable land (the Bailey), which in turn is encompassed by some sort of a barrier, such as a ditch. Being dark and dank, the Motte is not a habitation of choice. The only reason for its existence is the desirability of the Bailey, which the combination of the Motte and ditch makes relatively easy to retain despite attack by marauders. When only lightly pressed, the ditch makes small numbers of attackers easy to defeat as they struggle across it: when heavily pressed the ditch is not defensible, and so neither is the Bailey. Rather, one retreats to the insalubrious but defensible, perhaps impregnable, Motte. Eventually the marauders give up, when one is well placed to reoccupy desirable land.

        [–]popthatpill 3 points4 points  (6 children)

        Some of the "moderate" feminists aren't actually feminists in any meaningful sense, eg. I'm pretty sure by now that Christina Hoff Sommers just calls herself a "feminist" for lulz/trolling purposes.

        [–]anonlymouse 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Nah, back in the 2nd wave there was a split between the bat shit crazies like Dworkin, Gearhart and Daly, and the sensible ones like Pizzey and Sommers. Pizzey dropped the label, Sommers hangs on to it, probably out of nostalgia.

        [–]Lapidarist 8 points9 points  (4 children)

        That's not the sort of feminist I was referring to: Christina Hoff Sommers makes some valid points, but isn't the sort of person who'd hijack a discussion about radical feminists to point out how "moderate feminism" is great, and that it's only the radicals who are a vocal minority. Actually, in her book Who Stole Feminism?, she's doing the exact opposite; she's asserting that the vast majority of modern feminism is destructive nonsense.

        [–]popthatpill -1 points0 points  (3 children)

        What I meant is that there's another sort of "moderate" feminist, ie. the sort who isn't actually a feminist in any meaningful sense. The sort of "moderate" feminist you're talking about is just a PR flack for regular (ie. rent-seeking and/or radical) feminism.

        [–]Lapidarist 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        the sort who isn't actually a feminist in any meaningful sense.

        Then why would you call it a "moderate feminist"?

        The sort of "moderate" feminist you're talking about is just a PR flack for regular (ie. rent-seeking and/or radical) feminism.

        This makes no sense. Moderate means not excessive/extreme, so how does a "regular" feminist differ from a "moderate" feminist? They're both moderate feminists, i.e., a moderate feminist is a "regular" one.

        [–]Grimpillmage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I think he's talking about the kind of git you see on Reddit who'll claim to be a Feminist, but never lift a finger their entire life to help a woman who needs anything beyond validation.

        Had an 'argument' with one just about a week ago for the lulz and he got salty as shit when I pointed out that he's not a Feminist. Just a poser looking for brownie points.

        [–]popthatpill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I'm using sneer quotes on "moderate" to say that neither type actually is moderate.

        [–]through_a_ways 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I'm sure you've seen it happen before on reddit; you've got an empty-headed circlejerk going on about how these radical feminists are nuts, and then suddenly a "moderate feminist" jumps in, denounces the actions of this "loud, vocal minority", and scores enormeous amounts of upvotes and whiteknights left and right praising "reasonable feminism".

        Yup. "Those aren't REAL feminists" (no true scotsman fallacy), "Feminism is about EQUAL rights for men and women", etc.

        If you actually like wasting time on the internet, there are things you can do to fight this.

        1. Call out his/her bullshit, being wary to identify yourself as sympathetic to the feminist cause. Meaning you should qualify with remarks like "of course rape is horrible" or "I'm all for equal rights" or "Yes, discrimination is bad, but"

        This way your argument gets taken seriously: people will listen to you because you claim to be pro-equal rights, but you also point out that a huge portion of feminists are nut jobs. People will be more apt to agree, since you've established a frame where you're supposedly coming from a "fair", "sympathetic" point of view.

        Example:

        "Let me reiterate, I am completely opposed to inequality. But the vast majority of feminist discussion completely ignores legitimate issues of male inequality, such as male homelessness, male divorce, etc."

        Maybe throw lack of focus on black women in there too, for DAT INTERSECTIONALITY, and also throw in minorities in general for more INTERSECTIONALITY, like "why all this focus on women when minorities are so much more oppressed", "there is way more representation of women in video games than minorities", etc. Find an oppressed group and run with it, because the plain facts are that literally every group is more "oppressed" than women.

        1. Pretend to be a feminist and spout stuff that is very slightly over the top misandrist/socialist/thought policing, making people turned off by feminism because you're a fucking bitch

        Happy astroturfing, my friends

        [–]4_YRT 30 points31 points  (9 children)

        the ironic thing about the feminist attack on Hobby Lobby is that it's a great place for women to work. They paid all of their employees well above the minimum wage, the store isn't open on Sundays, so you always get at least one weekend day off, and it's one of the few big retailers that permits its employees to work full time hours. But for the birth control issue, Hobby Lobby would be one of the retailers lauded by the Liberal-Progressives and feminists.

        feminist ignored all of this because 1) the owners of the store are devout christians; and 2) the owners only wanted to provide 17 out of a possible 20 forms of birth control.

        [–]Dreamtrain 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        Maybe it's because I am not american but it irks me to think that your employer would be held accountable to pay for you such a personal item.

        [–]Grimpillmage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        American men should start demanding condoms as part of their free healthcare.

        [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

        I tried and failed to get your point 2) out there in ELI5 and other subs, but the mods actively worked against me. :/

        [–]Ausfall 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        the mods actively worked against me

        Welcome to reddit, enjoy your stay.

        [–]DurkaDerper 5 points6 points  (4 children)

        the owners only wanted to provide 17 out of a possible 20 forms of birth control.

        Wait, they were still offering the vast majority of the birth control options and they still threw a shit fit? That is fucking beyond entailment, they're worst than children. Although I have to ask, what forms of birth control didn't they want to provide, I'm assuming the pill and two others?

        [–]4_YRT 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        the "birth control" that Hobby Lobby opposed was abortifacients, which are substances that cause abortions. Hobby Lobby had no objection to healthcare that provides prophylactics, such as condoms or the pill, which prevent pregnancy in the first place.

        [–]Year_Of_The_Horse_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Abortifacient

        This includes the "Plan B" pill, which doesn't prevent pregnancy per se, it prevents implantation of the already-fertilized zygote in the uterus. For someone convinced life begins at conception, it would be no different than abortion to them.

        [–]culofiesta 33 points34 points  (0 children)

        Boys murdered in their sleep by Islamic group Boko Haram, no one cares.

        Fewer number of girls kidnapped by the same group and the world is up in arms.

        http://www.mediaite.com/online/why-did-kidnapping-girls-but-not-burning-boys-alive-wake-media-up-to-boko-haram/

        [–]applenerd 20 points21 points  (3 children)

        But the reaction of feminists was: Who cares? They were fixated on the fact that one of the physicists, Matt Taylor, wore a shirt printed with ladies in lingerie during a live screening of the feat.

        The thing is, that physicist alone is more intelligent than all of the feminists who were outraged by his choice of shirt combined.

        [–]1Watermelon_Salesman 32 points33 points  (1 child)

        It gets worse: there were a lot of women involved in the rover project. The feminist media completely forgot to mention them.

        [–]anonlymouse 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        I counted 8, possibly more with the non-obvious gender foreign names.

        [–]cerebralfountain 12 points13 points  (13 children)

        Wait, that last one really happened? I can't even understand their motive. "Look little girls can do whatever they want." Anyone have a link?

        [–]TheSKSpecial 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        The idea was that "if you're shocked by little girls dressed like princesses and cursing like sailors, you should also be shocked by (feminist talking point)".

        The whole concept was fucking retarded.

        [–]n4sc3nt 3 points4 points  (10 children)

        [–]Gigem_longhorns 17 points18 points  (4 children)

        That really pissed me off. Indoctrination, corruption of innocence, false statistics, and enough playing of the victim card to make Jews feel uncomfortable.

        [–]n4sc3nt 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        Lol yup. And of course a bunch of fat bitches running the show.

        [–]icallmyselfmonster 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        "This is what a feminist looks like."

        [–]sway_usa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        That's pretty much what I expected.

        [–]DurkaDerper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Notice how the men are well built and attractive, they're far better looking than the cunts they show on camera. Remember guys, we all have to look like alphas and act like betas to appease sub-par, probably obese women with entitlement issues.

        [–]kaspell 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        am I the only one (besides all the bullshit tehy are actually saying) who noticed they didn't have any average looking little girls in their video? They're all commercial pretty types.

        [–]SharpTits -1 points0 points  (2 children)

        so much rage inside me at that video. just to pick one- do these worthless producers think your college grades come up in an interview? The degree is what is important from college. the rest is a big mix of personality, aptitude, leadership and dozens of other factors. grades, however, are distinctly not related to pay.

        [–]robot-b 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        do these worthless producers think your college grades come up in an interview?

        depends what field, some will only consider candidates from certain universities and only with a 75%+ avg

        [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        [–]fokm 8 points9 points  (3 children)

        They forgot #yesallwomen. Even though Elliot Rodgers killed more men, let's focus on the women.

        That did give us #yesallcats, though.

        [–]GET_IN_THE_VAN 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        The ban bossy was in my opinion the biggest fiasco by far. We have one of the richest and most influential females in America trying to censor the English language, that's a big... failure.

        [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Ban Bossy was in the top ten she wrote. Tenth, I think.

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          [–]WindowToAlaska 3 points4 points  (3 children)

          Juat another avenue for attractive women to woo top 10% men. If an ugly woman goes topless (because of her initial "you go girl" and "we're all in this" cheering-on by other feminists) she will quickly realize her lower smv and less attention from top 10% men. Just my opinion/ramblings.

          [–]popthatpill 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          Juat another avenue for attractive women to woo top 10% men.

          Yup. The ever-increasing sluttification of society is actually just competition by women for high-SMV men. As a result, you get this arms race of ever-increasing competition by women - more revealing clothing, the mainstreaming of porn culture, etc. And breastfeeding (Dalrock posted on it just a few weeks ago) is just the latest iteration of it.

          Of course, the problem to women is that all men (not just the top 10% alpha thugs they're interested in) can see her breastfeeding (or wearing a miniskirt, or whatever the latest weapon in the alpha-attention arms race is). So women start demanding this odd-seeming mix of moral laxity (for themselves) and moral rectitude (for non-alphas).

          What they're trying to do is increase their appeal to the high-SMV men they want while anathematising the bottom 90% loser men they don't want.

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            [–]Hoodwink 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I think there's a subconscious desire to do this through competition with other females. Men don't give a shit about Gucci, etc. But women know other women know. For women, it's not because they're predatory against beta males, but because they're trying to look good in front of other females by tossing away the dregs (and to alphas).

            [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (5 children)

            How would the feminazis take a "Free The Willie" campaign where men demanded the right to have their penises swing from right to left in the open air?

            [–]MRB88 3 points4 points  (2 children)

            Hey shitlord, didn't you know that would LITERALLY be rape? Men's demands are LITERALLY rape and letting men run around nude is LITERALLY rape.
            Therefore, you're a double rapist.
            A gang rapist.
            I hope someone beats you up because you're asking for it.

            /S (Even though I HOPE that tag isn't needed to get the intent)

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            [–]salami_inferno -1 points0 points  (0 children)

            To play devils advocate here they just want the right to go topless like men can, both genders are still banned from walking around with their dick/pussy out. If I lived in a society where woman could go topless but men couldnt Id say fuck that and walk around shirtless.

            [–]SharpTits 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            i live in boulder, CO. women can go topless there. they never do, but i wouldn't mind if they did. however, the whole issue bothers me because the advocates are pretending breasts don't exist. i can assure you, there are anatomical differences between men and women. i suppose that's somehow the fault of some evil male somewhere.

            [–]1ayatollaobama 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            Hobby Lobby wasn't just a feminist fiasco, unfortunately. Their whining reached all the way to the Supreme Court where they barely lost. And how many millions of voters out there don't understand the details of the case or why the justices voted the way they did, but listen to Pelosi, Reid, and the press when they say that there is a "war on women" because of the Hobby Lobby decision?

            [–]forgeror 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            RSD Julien Blanc evicted from Australia and visas cancelled worldwide

            [–]UnamusedPunk 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            Here's her twitter for anyone interested in following her:

            https://twitter.com/meancharlotte

            [–]bobolino59 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Yeah 2014 was a good year feminism went so far even women strayed to hate it! Cf. women against feminism on FB!

            [–]meatrocket8 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            F-Bombs for Feminism: Someone actually thought it would help the cause of women to dress up little girls in princess costumes and video them as they dropped the f-word more times than Leonardo di Caprio in “The Wolf of Wall Street.”

            You forgot that they had 1 boy in the end dressed up as a princess and say something for the cause. That made me lose it.

            [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

            I never watched the whole thing; didn't think I needed to or that I had the stomach for it. :-)

            [–]best_mike_ever 2 points3 points  (5 children)

            I wish there was a subreddit where people could go to whine about this kind of crap. I can't be the only person here who's transcended far beyond caring what feminists are up to or what they think about anything.

            [–]Flargmastaflex2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Closest I can think of is /r/AlreadyRed, but that isn't very active.

            [–]definitely_hetero -1 points0 points  (2 children)

            Maybe you're too advanced for this sub-reddit. This sub is a landing point for people who have just unplugged, they are generally angry.

            [–]best_mike_ever 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            I learn all kinds of things here. I just wish people would stop whining.

            [–]versilov22 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

            There's some good circle jerks like r/antipoz , and when /pol/ is not being a circle jerk it can also be very good.

            The most intelligent discussion usually happens on blogs though

            [–]Menadian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            What about the:" What guys do to drunk girls in public"-hoax, where the actors got cheated (presumably) to participate thinking it was a comedy-piece and later finding it was ammmunition on the war agains men?

            That did get a quite loud uproar. Even more than that "bossy"-stuff, according to me.

            [–]SnoopKittyCat 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            Does anyone knows where I could get the printed shirt with ladies in lingerie that Matt Taylor was wearing during his press conference ??

            I need one to wear around the stupid feminist friends of my girl friend.

            [–]MarriedRP 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            http://www.alohaland.com/whats-new/gunner-girls

            They are sold out of course. And you're gonna have to get in line behind me! They call it "Astronaut fabric" lol

            [–]ShitLordXurious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            It's called "new gunner girls" - do a search for it.

            [–]HeadingRed -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

            "Perhaps because the perpetrators weren’t the white middle-class men who are feminists’ preferred villains."

            Or perhaps because the victims were not middle or upper class American women. There is a subtle racism at play that anyone outside of the US and western Europe is not as worthy.

            Pretty white girl from a family earning over 200k a year goes missing on a vacation in the Caribbean? Year-long manhunt. 1000's of girls in poverty 10,000 miles away getting raped and forced into marriage? "It's the culture"

            Noted a story that a pretty young black woman went missing on vacation and the media couldn't help but say "see it's not just about the pretty blonde white girls". Um, except for her skin color pretty much the same story.

            How many women at a rally wear clothes made by women overseas in horrible conditions who bosses probably make them put out to keep their job? You want to get my respect- talk about the plight of the worst, not the inconvenienced.

            It seems to be that most of the outrage is aimed at what's in arms length. While it's understandable that you pay the most attention to what is in your own neighborhood it is odd that the clothing industry- perhaps one of the worst abusers of women in the workforce- is given little attention while hardly a week goes by that I hear on average female VP's in the banking industry earn 4.2% less than their male counterparts.

            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            You're totally off-base here, fella.

            The victims of the Paki/Muzzi rape gangs in England are primarily WHITE. The reason they were ignored was because of the perpetrator's Race and Religion, not because of any "racism" against the victims there.

            Matter of fact, several Brits who tried to bring this to the attention of authorities years served PRISON TIME for their "racism" under Britain's "hate speech" laws.

            [–]HeadingRed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Wasn't talking about England- mostly the garment industry around the world that employs mainly women. When I think about who buys the most clothes, shoes etc I think women. And buying goods made by women who don't get treated all that well. So we see weekly "women MBA's make 4.2% less then men" but maybe buried on PBS at 2AM a documentary of how that 300$ purse got made by someone getting 4$/day and the factory bosses shaking down the women for sex.

            Not saying white women (or western) don't get targeted because of their race- saying that white women seen to focus more on financial inequities of their own kind and ignore those of whom they cannot relate too.

            A causal acquaintances friends wife went missing in Egypt in the 80's- pretty blonde, young. They split up while shopping and she was never heard from again.

            Not discounting that often western women are targeted by other cultures- just pointing out that I have had several conversations in the last year with women about women making less than men. And no conversations started by women about how women outside of the west are treated.

            [–]Luckyluke23 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

            as they dropped the f-word more times than Leonardo di Caprio in “The Wolf of Wall Street.

            this is pretty dam funny man!

            they put the CEO of facebook on here, but they don't talk about the #takedownjulianblanc thing? are you kidding me?

            kids helpt 100000000000000s of guys including me and becuse he put up a questionable picture. they jumped on him.