all 185 comments

[–]Hennez 226 points227 points  (10 children)

The problem was that you didn't do her. It sucks that they pull crazy stuff like this.

Actually you showed responsibility. And given the amount of mindless stuff some people do, this kind of behaviour should be praised.

Keep your head high OP.

[–]mtersen 51 points52 points  (0 children)

yeah he did the correctly responsible thing to do, and is being punished for it because pussypass

[–]1iluminatiNYC 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Yeah. There's no point in being suicidal by giving someone raw dick. You did the smart thing.

[–]wontfixnow 7 points8 points  (0 children)

in other words: bitches be cray when the don't get the expected dick

[–]soupermain 14 points15 points  (4 children)

If he did her he'd be facing a false rape case

[–]flyingwolf 37 points38 points  (3 children)

You think he actually has to have even touched her for a false rape case to be brought?

[–]P0eticJustice 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Does it really matter if he did? Unless he had recorded with video what happened, it's her word against his.

[–]RedbullF1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The funny thing is even if he proved he didn't rape her, he'd still get fucked for recording the video (consensual or not). You did the right thing OP.

[–]Kronouranos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most states 1-consent audio recording, so if the video has her saying yes, just extract the audio and say you only recorded that.

[–]coppercable 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Rule number 1. Never stick your dick in crazy.

[–]getomc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jokes on you. All women are crazy.

[–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil 380 points381 points  (24 children)

If you dont have a condom the responsible thing to do is put it in her butt.

[–]Deathfrompopcorn 64 points65 points  (1 child)

this is the only reasonable way to solve the problem.

[–]avocado0286 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Well, unless you want to avoid getting AIDS.

[–]brotherjustincrowe 18 points19 points  (6 children)

Her mouth works too, if she resists give her a funny look and tell her exactly what latex and lubricant tastes like (terrible).

[–]ChoppinTheTarts 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I've just gotten some new condoms from lifeskin that are non latex I've heard good things.

[–]EmperorAurelius 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Lifeskin? Or do you mean lifestyle?

[–]ChoppinTheTarts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hah I totally mixed up lifestyle and skyn. I meant skyn.

[–]phaed 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Ideed, get all the AIDS that way.

[–]Rathadin 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Most homosexuals (and heterosexuals for that matter) that get AIDS from anal sex are on the receiving end, because your johnson is literally tearing their asshole... which means when you blow your AIDS-infested load up their shitter, it goes right into the bloodstream. Even if you're using lube and going slow, the anal sphincter can still receive micro-tears from the stretching.

Hence, AIDS aids AIDS aids AIDS EVERYBODYONE'S GOT AIDS!

EDIT: The Pope has got it, and so do you.

[–]zenkibudo 15 points16 points  (0 children)

That, and the fact that the intestinal membrane is only one cell thick which is again, a fast passage to the bloodstream -- no wreckage or tearing is needed to facilitate this transfer. This adds to and does not negate what you posit on tearing.

Conversely, vaginal walls are far thicker and far less permeable.

Hence perhaps ending the long quandary over why AIDS/HIV seems to favor gay males (and intravenous users). Rather than conspiratory or imaginary, reasons are apparently based in simple biology and vector delivery method.

[–]doomgoblin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or just get her mouth pregnant, but hey, that's just me.

[–]wimmyjales 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Seriously though, instead of doing nothing maybe that would've been a better move to at least try. I wonder how many guys have actually been able to skip the vag and go straight to anal. I've done everything under the sun, and I can't even boast that accomplishment. I have tried quite a few times.

[–]Rathadin 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I've done it with several girls, actually... the hotter, the better. Hot-to-crazy ratio, you know.

[–]wimmyjales 1 point2 points  (3 children)

What's the move? I know the technique to get anal usually, at least I know what works for me. I normally do some kind of continuous ass stimulation along with everything else I'm doing, so that eventually when I put it in it's more of a natural progression than coming out of nowhere. The ways I've tried to skip the puss so far has ranged from going oral with lots of ass fingering and gently attempting to slide in, to just throwing caution to the wind and haphazardly ramming it in during those bent over the table gorilla-fuck moments. No luck yet.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Don't ask, simply announce that her ass is about to get hate fucked. Then tell her to relax. The last four I have met online have all eagerly taken it in the ass, and begged for a load in there. Tomorrow I have another lined up, we'll see how it goes.

I call it the Hat Trick. Oral, vaginal, and anal in the same session.

[–]wimmyjales 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Well I know enough not to ask. Also, I'm talking specifically about skipping the vag, which is arguably a higher accomplishment than the hat trick and in my experience more difficult to pull off.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Done that too, back in October with a chick two years younger than me. Old chicks would rather put out than be put out to pasture. Got her worked up, she said lets go to my bed, she laid face down, ass up and when she said 'thats the back door' I said 'I know' and fucked it. I'm not big on anal, but it's something I do to gauge how kinky and slutty she is. If she is quite small, like my second wife or one of the 22 year olds I fucked last year, I won't fit in her ass easily due to girth, so I do other shit like B&D.

[–]sway_usa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Did it 3 weeks ago with a girl on her period. Never even got her last name :D

[–]Jigsus 79 points80 points  (29 children)

You should have at least fingered her.

[–]RPSigmaStigma 58 points59 points  (0 children)

I agree. You make a girl cum and she'll associate the encounter with good feels. Always make her cum.

[–]BBB2000[S] 13 points14 points  (27 children)

I was in position to bang when "no condom" happened she immediately setup from her laying down position and started rationalizing.

[–]Xevalous 10 points11 points  (26 children)

You should have stopped the hamster and fingered her.

[–]RPSigmaStigma 33 points34 points  (24 children)

He should have fingered/fellated her to orgasm before she had a chance to get up. Then waved his dick in her face for a bj. Win/win.

"Guess we'll have to do it Woodstock style."

Just say something ridiculous like that and proceed to mutual oral satisfaction.

Edit: thinking about it some more, I'm betting the reason she got up and left in an awkward huff is because OP got all awkward about not having a condom. State transference. She'll feel awkward if you feel awkward.

[–]singeblanc 44 points45 points  (11 children)

Just as an FYI because I see a lot of guys making this mistake:

Fellatio means sucking dick. Cunnilingus is oral sex on a female.

If you could have fellated "her", then being reported on Match is the least of your worries.

[–]RPSigmaStigma 4 points5 points  (10 children)

You're right, I guess I never actually looked it up.

Edit: so what would the verb form of "cunnilingus" be? "Cunnilinged"? :P

[–]singeblanc 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Cunnilingus is actually a noun, so the correct form would be:

should have performed cunnilingus.

[–]BiggestDickInTheRoom 10 points11 points  (7 children)

But I kind of like cunnilinged. I say we verbify it.

[–]singeblanc 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Ha! As a side note, "verb" is also a noun ;)

[–]BiggestDickInTheRoom 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Not after I was done suffixing it it wasn't.

[–]southernmost 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You guys certainly are cunning linguists.

[–]the_number_2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cunnilinguiesce? Or linguiesced to shorten it?

[–]DaThrowaway808 10 points11 points  (10 children)

You would go down on a girl you met on match.com?

[–]RPSigmaStigma 9 points10 points  (6 children)

If I ever suspected she wasn't hygienic enough to go down on, why would I finger her, or stick my dick in her condom or no, let alone get her nasty snatch juice all over my bed. She'd never make it home with me in the first place. Not all chicks on match.com are nasty ho-bags.

[–]DaThrowaway808 -1 points0 points  (5 children)

HPV, what does it look like?

[–]RPSigmaStigma 16 points17 points  (4 children)

HPV, what does it look like?

... about 75% of the population over 16, the vast majority of whom experience zero symptoms and never even knew they had it...?

Edit: Also, you do know you can get HPV from kissing too, right? Maybe you should just become a monk...

[–]TooFastTim 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Can you get it from titty fucking a broad?

[–]BiggestDickInTheRoom 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Is that all you plan on doing the rest of your life?

[–]BiggestDickInTheRoom 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Always go down first. It's safer and gives you the chance to inspect.

Less things are passed by oral than by PIV sex. Many diseases are detectable from an off-color discharge, smell or physical manifestation like sores, warts, etc. Get down there and have a good smellsie-looksie. If it's all good, slap on the condom and go. If not, tell her you don't fuck on the first date and leave her be.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Last one, who bought a plane ticket to meet me, inspected my tool before she put it in her. Have another lined up tomorrow, I'm actually amazed I have never caught anything.

I always give it a sniff, doesn't help with most things, but you can tell how well ehe takes care of herself.

[–]Chicago1871 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's always mouth cancer from HPV.

True story.

[–]redpillerinnyc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do not fellate a woman. Just FYI.

Edited: Saw this has been mentioned below. Apology for redundancy.

[–]CrimsonTideCosby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you mean raped her? and then not only is he banned for match but he's going to jail?

I think he did the right thing. Just cut your loses before you do anything else that could be misconstrued as rape, which is pretty much anything now.

[–]Cant_Tell_Me_Nothin 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Besides the fact that yea it's a crazy accusation, how do you set up a date at your place without making sure you have a condom? Not shaming you but come on man, this is something very basic. A girl at your place is always a possibility for sex. But its cool, good luck next time.

[–]antariusz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly what the girl realized.

OMG I thought he was a confident asshole that I was going home with...

instead I got stuck with a beta, he doesn't even have a condom at his house, I bet he wasn't expecting sex, beta's never expect sex, I was about to give sex to a beta shudder I need to shower now.

[–]soccerplusaviation 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Lol. The price you pay for not risking pregnancy or an std.

[–]1Zanford 23 points24 points  (0 children)

'Blowjob' is the answer you're looking for.

[–]BetaMaleFeminist 23 points24 points  (4 children)

Option 1: you wined her. Now 69 her. Option 2: "put your clothes back on, dirty girl (sly grin) we're going to the store for some chocolate (also pick up a box of condoms. This can be an incredibly fun 20 minutes of foreplay if you maintain frame and blast her with confident game, she'll be dripping wet when you get home).

[–]TekkomanKingz 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Sounds like a lot of effort for a Match.com slore

[–]BetaMaleFeminist 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Yeah, instead of working on his frame, seduction and dark triad traits for an extra 20 minutes he could just kick back and watch South Park alone for the evening.

[–]TekkomanKingz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My alternative would be hitting the bar with a bud or something...

[–]ElKod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

YES TO THIS. If you are like "Oh, what will we do now?" she's gonna start realizing she just came home with a random dude on the first date..

Keep frame as long as you can. Women salivate over "men men" that make decisions, share them and give you the option to come along or go home. Women are consistently testing if you are a little boy who needs those choices made for you.

[–]dabrah1 11 points12 points  (0 children)

moral of the story: stock up on condoms

[–]zenkibudo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

match.com has rules on inappropriate conduct. Wonder what they are. I also wonder what you were accused of, and if you can even find out such specifics.

Looking back, the strictness of military life was rough. But, there were things they did right. When accused - you have the right to know:

  • who is the accuser
  • what you are accused of

...and more. This is missing from civilian life in so many areas. Civilian blue pill life is all shaming and innuendo "You know what you did, mister! And you know who you did it to. Don't get smart with me!"

Not healthy, that.

[–]blueWidow 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Well you're lucky that wasnt a rape accusation. You're not supposed to stop escalating, just keep it away from third base since that's out unless u could have been inventive and went to the store to get some. All it looked like was that sex was all you were after, even when it is, you're not supposed to show that.

[–]derex 3 points4 points  (1 child)

My analytical mind tells me that she told what happened to some friend who advised her to report you. She did it to avoid looking like slut (slut shamed).

[–]fordmarkII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A town meeting for ASD, BYO hamster? I think so.

NO GUINEA PIGS.

[–]thereddespair 11 points12 points  (43 children)

If the story is just as you told it, I guess it is 'inappropriate' that you tried to escalate without making sure you had a condom lol.

Talking about condoms, what is the best condom you guys would recommend?

[–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 36 points37 points  (36 children)

There's always a way to make it the guys fault. It's an art form. Women have perfected it. It's called spin artistry and blame shifting. When men agree with the women that it was in fact their fault and not hers, we call it hyperagency. Women take responsibility for nothing, and men, for everything. Fuck logic, remember, her agency ends where her responsibilities begin.

[–]thereddespair 13 points14 points  (34 children)

With all the bullshit that you guys have to deal with when dealing with women, sometimes I wonder why some of you still keep on pursuing them. Is it really worth it, just to get some twat, all the drama and crap like this...

[–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 19 points20 points  (15 children)

I can't speak for other guys but I don't try very hard to get women. If a chick's interested I'll take it as far as it's enjoyable, when she starts causing me problems (and she will, let's face it, it's a matter of WHEN not IF) I'll put my foot down. If she gets back in line, cool, we can continue to have fun. If not, she can fuckoff. Next.

[–]thereddespair 2 points3 points  (13 children)

I guess you are right, there are people like you who don't really give as much effort anymore if at all and still get it.

[–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 16 points17 points  (12 children)

When chicks sense you don't care, they're drawn to you. They'll do anything to get noticed. You have to legitimately not give a fuck though, they can sense when you care but are pretending not to. There must be no fucks emanating from your soul whatsoever. We know how bad women are.

Ever feel eyes on you, look up, and see a chick acting like she wasn't looking, but then looks at you a second time really quickly? You noticed her because she looked, but she acts like you looked first and that SHE CAUGHT YOU.

All this happens in about 0.5-1 second. Now she's got that smug fucking look on her face like you're checking her out (when you weren't - she just caught you in a "stare trap") and now she's all gassed up and feeling validated off a mere glance. Bunch of fucking narcissists, young girls walking down the street are the worst with that shit. "Becky lets hit up Starbucks! Omg that guy was totally checking me out!!" They stare at you, catch you looking in response, then act like you were checking them out to begin with. It's even fucking more annoying when it's some ugly bitch pulling that shit, you wouldn't check her out - that's why she's running these games. Eye-fucking, that's fun, it's mutual, I like that, but the ole' stare trap? Annoying ass shit. As a wise female philosopher once said: "Ain't nobody got time for that!"

[–]17 Endorsed ContributorWhisper 13 points14 points  (5 children)

The trick to dealing with the stare trap is to treat it like any other shit test. Agree and amplify.

One lesson that took a long time for me to absorb, even after my "red pill awakening" was don't look away if someone "catches" you looking at them.

Yes, prolonged eye with strangers is "awkward", but confident people don't care about that. Awkwardness is something that embarrasses the other person, not them.

You don't have to make everything a staring contest, but don't look away right away. That shows you up as uncomfortable with others knowing you are looking at them. You aren't. The trick is to leave them wondering whether you thought they were attractive, thought they looked ridiculous, or were looking at something behind them.

[–]unknowncitzen 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I do this all the time while walking around, I simply lock eyes and smile until they freek out and they look away. I see it as challenging my masculinity, I am always up for the challenge..

[–]BiggestDickInTheRoom 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I do this too. ALL the time. I have made it a habit to never look away first.

I started years ago, because I noticed that prolonged eye contact was unreasonably difficult for me. It was like I HAD to look away. I thought "fuck that". Something so simple should not be difficult, so I faced my demons and started making eye contact whenever and where ever I was.

When I first started, most girls would look away first after a painful second or so for me. A few called me out though, telling their boyfriends, girlfriends, or one even yelling at me in the street. And really, I'm not talking death stare from across the bar here, I'm just talking about making eye contact as you pass each other on the street or in a mall. After being chastised I almost ended the experiment, but I kept going.

Strangely though, as my mental terror eased, so did the chastising. It was like they could sense my terror. Now, years later, it's second nature. I can walk down the street and I hold eye contact with everyone (unless there are two simultaneously, then I have to choose). I haven't been called out in years. I can tell which women are not interested (they break eye contact and never return), which are low esteem (they break, preen, look again, break...) and I savor the few that eye fuck the whole way, smile, pass, and then make eye contact again as I'm looking be hind me checking out their ass.

I also am WAY more powerful in man-on-man situations. I can read a guy's confidence like nobody's business now.

Eye contact is huge and everyone who reads TRP should be improving it IMNSHO.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The only times I look away are when I want to set someone at ease, or when I am recalling shit from my past that is difficult to think about. In long conversation I will watch everything else, it's called hypervigilance, and stopping it has negative effects. In public, I look at them as long as I want, and I will usually catch over her shoulder glances back at me. It's fun to watch.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are feeling awkward, I am not. I will look at anyone or anything I please, as long as I want.

[–]thereddespair 8 points9 points  (4 children)

I guess once the woman does detect that you are into her, she switches into make-his-life-difficult mode. From what I have observed it seems to be true. I can at least admit to that the smug face, even if its just internally, it's true...

[–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I guess once the woman does detect that you are into her, she switches into make-his-life-difficult mode.

Yep. Truer shit never said. I remember one time this chick was giving me shit, we'd already made out prior but for whatever reason she thought it'd be smart to start whining and getting argumentative. I said "it's fine, ok, I'm going to hit the clubs." 3 minutes later we're upstairs. Clockwork.

[–]thereddespair 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I think that is them trying to shift the control balance, then try to mask it when they failed by being all good to you again.

It's actually kinda funny how women are always perceived as being submissive when it's not really accurate as they do try to wrestle it from you whenever they can. But then hate you for it, if they're able to step on you lol.

[–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Yeah. Women thrive on emotional conflict. They rather have a fight than be bored. The drama addiction runs deep.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wise philosopher that wanted a cold pop but ran. That made me laugh rather heartily. Thanks for that.

[–]ReversedGif 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you meant "WHEN not IF."

[–]17 Endorsed ContributorJP_Whoregan 16 points17 points  (9 children)

I guess that's another perk of being older. At 33, I'm much more discerning about which women I will start putting effort into chasing than I was when I was 23. And in the off chance that my radar deceives me and I get fooled into commingling with a crazy bitch, I leave the situation immediately. I've left girls stranded at concerts and straight up left them at bars once the psycho starts creeping out.

I see this as a completely economical decision. As I grow older, I recognize that my timeframe for happiness on this planet grows shorter. Therefore, I have to be sure that the endeavors I choose to invest my time into will be fruitful and enjoyable. In other words, my time today has more value to me than it did in my Blue Pill days. And I'll be damned if a deficient vagina operator gets to squander it.

[–]yummyluckycharms 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Agreed - its tough for younger people to understand this point of view. I'm a bit older, but those extra years have made me even more of a merciless bastard when it comes to cutting loses and sizing up opportunities.

On the flip side, I dont think you can be told that perspective - it comes from time and experience and having it slowly percolate down into the very fibres of your being.

[–]17 Endorsed ContributorJP_Whoregan 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I finally understand what my parents meant when they said "you'll understand when you're older".

[–]yummyluckycharms 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol - I hear ya. Now if only I could invent a time machine

[–]BiggestDickInTheRoom 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I've never been able to leave one stranded though. I SHOULD have, but I always fulfill the implied side of the bargain I made when I arranged the social contract. If I drove her there, then I'll drive her back. I might punish her like a child in the process, but I'll make sure she gets back safe. She's have to be a raving demon for me to break that.

Same with a bro though. Yeah, you're a drunk fuckwad, but I'm getting your ass back to your place even if I have to punch you out to do it. Once I drop you off though, you are on your own and I'm not coming back to help no matter what your drunk ass does if you don't go to sleep. My contract is fulfilled.

[–]17 Endorsed ContributorJP_Whoregan 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Meh...they're equals to men, right? Because "feminism". They can call a cab just as easy as I have in the past. Hundreds of times.

[–]BiggestDickInTheRoom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying I'm superior in driving her home. It might be my nagging inner beta. But I vet my contract prior to making it, then ensure it is fulfilled unless it is actively thwarted. I mean, if she jumps out of the car, then yeah, I'm leaving her ass. If she makes the evening miserable though? I'm going to leave, tell her I'm leaving, and if she wants a ride then get in my fucking car. But the very fact that I agreed to be transportation means I'm going to complete that task unless she tells me in sober terms that she wants me to back out on our agreement. If she does, then I'm free of my stated obligation. If she doesn't then she's just being a bitch and I'll punish her but complete my obligation to the minimal extent possible.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I left one and her friend 50 miles from home when she ditched me and started chasing some kid. That was when I was 16, been that way since. She wanted a ride to another town, I was headed that way and she always promised sex or something to get ride, then expected me to wait outside for her. The long trip was the last time she tried that shit, I bet her parents reamed her ass, being 1985 and a rural community I almost guarantee it.

[–]17 Endorsed ContributorJP_Whoregan 3 points4 points  (1 child)

That's what I did last May to a chick I brought to a concert. She spent the whole damn time with her face buried in her phone, Facebook chatting with some other dude. I told her I was going to go grab us a couple of beers, then just walked out and drove home. 45 miles from home, that was probably an expensive cab ride.

I literally don't give a shit anymore. Women either contribute to my happiness or they don't, and if they don't, they're gone, instantly.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same. Got better shit to do than babysit a walking fleshlight.

[–]gmflag 9 points10 points  (7 children)

That's why I stopped last year. I dumped all my plates and I moved on with my life. Nothing has made me more at peace with myself.

[–]thereddespair 7 points8 points  (6 children)

I do love the diversity within the group. That you have certain core ideas and use it to follow different paths.

[–]gmflag 19 points20 points  (5 children)

This is what people outside the red pill don't understand. We are not a movement. We are just a bunch of people in search of the truth. We want to know what are the universalities, the exceptions, etc. What we do with it is our choice.

[–]DAD_FISTER 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Basically the only consistent laws of red pill is lift weights and don't pedestalize women...

Atrocious I know.

[–]when_in_rome_wwjd 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Fucking misogynist shitlord, your going to hell and die.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What? We don't rape everything despite being bitter virgins?

[–]1Rumble_in_the_Jungle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For some reason, this is the hardest thing to understand for both critics and new members.

[–]emblasochist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're not a movement, that much is true, but I don't think we care so much, generally speaking about the truth for the sake of knowing it; I think we are looking for the truth so that we can make the decisions that will improve our quality of life.

[–]BluepillProfessor 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If 'blame shifting' were an Olympic sport women would take every single medal. No men would even be on the team.

[–]Man-with-a-pitchfork 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Talking about condoms, what is the best condom you guys would recommend?

Order "My Size" condoms in 3 different sizes on amazon. Usually, all condoms you can buy at the grocery are the same size - even the ones called "magnum" or something - while these actually are different. (In girth, not in length.)

[–]thereddespair 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I checked. I ran into this okamoto condom too that says its ultra thin. I kinda feel like getting him some as a gift, he likes using it sometimes.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like the ones that don't break.

[–]cheezuzz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Latex condoms are the best! I recommend them.

Actually I prefer them in this order.

  1. Bareback. Cum inside.
  2. Durex.
  3. Trojan.
  4. Lifestyle.

[–]thereddespair 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Durex seems to be what he has already. I guess no point in me buying him some. :(

[–]EKEEFE41 2 points3 points  (0 children)

By being respectful and noble, you reminded her that she was not acting that way... If you and her had just "lost your self in passion" she would have never blinked an eye..

[–]Baylien2 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Shoulda ate the pussy. Swallow your pride nigga

[–]Shade_Raven 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exchange oral. Wtf you doin mate

[–]1cover20 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I'm just wondering what she alleged and what they say was inappropriate. I see absolutely nothing inappropriate there so I would not be afraid but stand on the facts. And if they ban you for inappropriate conduct, you've got a lawsuit to consider, and they know it.

Don't say lawsuit, just be very specific about what happened and demanding to know which part was inappropriate.

[–]BBB2000[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I'm sure she alleged "my escalation" as inappropriate. She did stop me but after we stopped I tried again. Backward rationalization she can say it was me and she never wanted to do it in the first place.

By reporting it it further helps her feel like a non slut and rationalize.

I am not banned yet but if they get another complain I think I will be.....it's funny because of the reasons for inappropriate conduct on match most of it is "asking for money" "wrong pictures" but then it gets to "how they were on or after date"

Which just leaves so much leeway and he said she said.

It's a womans world. I can't argue this rationally. No one will think a woman who left early cause she is uncomfortable and reported it is in the wrong.

[–]skoobled 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Match.com, aka betabux.com. OP's mistake was trying to sex the lady, when he should have been detailing how he planned to hand over the majority of his hard earned assets to her on a 10 year plan

[–]brotherjustincrowe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ha, yeah this is what more FRs should be like. Hamstering and the anti-slut defense. Could've still closed or at least gotten a BJ, but I'm guessing the "wanting a condom" part was a shit test.

Eh, try try again.

[–]zuk1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

make her super wet with fingers and mouth. get blown.

[–]jmg83 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anti Slut Defense

This has happened to me twice. Both times, the girl came to me, not the other way around. The first girl lied, ten minutes after she suggested going back to her place, saying she was on her period (what the fuck are you doing looking for cock while you're bleeding then?), The second called it off because she outright didn't wan't me "to think she's a slut". That ruins the whole fucking night.

[–]thegr8b8m8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Be careful OP if she will do this type of underhanded move going to the police for a false attempted rape wouldn't be out of the question.

[–]libertypole 1 point2 points  (0 children)

so I say I respect whatever you want to do

you should not have vocalized this. super nerdy. i think she was just not totally into you or a prude. don't take it too personal.

[–]SpongeCroft 1 point2 points  (0 children)

buy condoms... especially if you know your plate longer, don't underestimate the crazy, bring your own ones!!!!

[–]TekkomanKingz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I swear why don't you guys come prepared. You go on a date and don't bring a condom? Wake the fuck up Junior, class has ended.

[–]Lyrad1002 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Fuck it, take the nuclear option and report her for inappropriate conduct!

[–]rebuildingMyself 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Blue balls is a serious offense, young lady

[–]saltinado 2 points3 points  (2 children)

How do you know the ban was instigated by her? I'm just curious, I don't know anything about match.com.

[–]BBB2000[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh it was....I have been nice to all girls. And these reports they email you within 24 hours of the complain I think, so I knew it was her

Also I texted her telling her I had a great time and to do it again just to see if she was interested and of course no response. She left the bed looking shamed and she rationalized it by thinking "I didn't stop escalating when she said no" as to why she was in that position and so I'm sure thats what the complaint was

[–]TheDon835 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is actually a really good question.

[–]Ol-Spaghetsy-Hat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

should've eaten her out and made her super horny. Thats what Teddy Roosevelt would've done. Then she would've been down maybe? Or at least maybe she would recipricate... But you should have had a condom brah!

[–]1tombreck2 2 points3 points  (10 children)

"everything is a gift"

If you get banned then maybe it will motivate you to game in person more. Online dating is a waste of your time because you don't get rejected and it doesn't make you stronger or improve your game.

[–]redditor_chowder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unless you go out on dates and get hang out with girls and get rejected in person. Your statement assumes no one can get past asking for the number.

[–]circlhat 4 points5 points  (7 children)

Online game is a different game, it requires just as much skill if not more.

A girl gets far more people after her online than offline.

Maybe 1-2(Varies I know) a day if she is really hot. Online she gets 100 messages a day.

If you can stand out from that crowd you got game...

[–]1tombreck2 7 points8 points  (6 children)

There is no rejection online because it's text on a screen.

Game is about making yourself vulnerable to rejection by approaching a woman.

The 'skill' with online dating is messaging as many women as possible in a given setting which 100% of men can do.

Few men have the game or confidence to approach many women in a given setting in person. If you want to stand out from the crowd then approach a woman in a grocery store.

No woman fantasizes about meeting a man on OkCupid. They fantasize about a strange man seducing her when she doesn't expect it

[–]circlhat 5 points6 points  (4 children)

There is no rejection online because it's text on a screen.

Most men I talk too with day game avoid online dating because they say they get rejected so much its a time waster.

And it can be, just like in person can be. I once had 4 girls in one week.

No woman fantasizes about meeting a man on OkCupid. They fantasize about a strange man seducing her when she doesn't expect it

Makes no real difference , the girls I met all had rape fantasies. I guess meeting a guy on craigslist for random pretend rape sex works for them too.

[–]1tombreck2 2 points3 points  (3 children)

One of the TRp endorsed guys said it best:

When you date online, there is no learning from a rejection. Because you can’t fucking get rejected through a screen. That shit provides no learning curve.

In real life there is nothing you can do except put yourself out there, be the best you can be, and stay in the moment. Spending time on the computer won’t help you in those arenas. You hide behind a made up persona, don’t have to look a person in the eye when you type a response, and can go jerk off in between replies. That fucks you up, it doesn’t make you better.

[–]circlhat 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I still have to meet her, talk to her, pass her shit test, pass LMR.

I can't jack off, I still have to have game, online is just the meet, the only difference between you and me is how we setup the meet.

Everything else is the same from that point on

[–]BiggestDickInTheRoom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thing is though, if you get the meet, she already has accepted you. Now you just need to overcome resistance. On the street initial rejection is a whole lot tougher than an unreplied to PM.

[–]redditor_chowder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally agree. If you can get face to face meet ups then who cares how you got there? Everyone has their own style it's no big deal.

[–]redditor_chowder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How are you online dating that you're getting rejected on screen? I don't even count that as a rejection if it's not in person. What you seem to be saying is that for whatever reason (skill level, location) you've had a hard time geting online dates. Doesn't mean other people have the same issue.

My Tinder date kiss close ration is about 60/40 in favor of me getting a kiss. I probably only get rejected 50% of the time, but I qualify really well first and don't just randomly ask anyone or my numbers would be different.

[–]Goldfulgore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought the whole point of match.com was to meet and fuck.

[–]muyuu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you tried talking to her? try to find out what her take in the situation was. Also, this should have happened pretty much as soon as possible rather than waiting for a notification from the website...

This kind of behaviour is risky. Legally risky, too.

[–]Danedina 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you're being accused of pulling a Bobby Peru: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUtn7e05C8M

[–]rpscrote 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just don't know what I could of done differently.

Have the condom and execute the lay. Don't go there unless you can close all the way. They get weird and defensive and pull shit like you're seeing otherwise

[–]Doomsday_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

so I say I respect whatever you want to do and sit back and stop

Not necessary to verbalize this. In fact, it's probably a bad idea since it implies that you're going to push for sex and thus might set up her ASD. Would have been fine just to back off (without saying anything) and then try again a bit later. Using words also engages the logical part of her brain which is the last thing you want to do at this point.

as I go for a condom I realize I don't have one and she wants a condom

You're an idiot. Always have logistics on lock ahead of time. You fucked up big time here. Making sure you have easy access to condoms is one of the easiest things you can do. Sorry to say it, but you deserved to loose the bang for goofing on a simple thing like this.

So I just give up. All escalation has stopped, I'm not forcing anything.

Another mistake. By backing off at this point, you played into her frame. Your options: keep fingering her (you were fingering her, right?) to get her horny, go for the bang without the condom (if you're willing to risk it, & obv don't force her) and pull out. Or, keep making out and fingering and get her to give you a handjob/blowjob.

Backing off here also allowed her logic and ASD to kick in.

I texted her the next day saying I enjoyed it so she didn't feel bad

This could easily come off as needy/thirsty.

Because I totally respected her and even said "I don't judge I respect whatever you choose"

Women don't get off on your respecting them. Also, by saying this you force her to take on agency and responsibility for what happens. She doesn't want to take responsibility because it makes her feel like a slut. She wants it to "just happen." The better attitude to adopt is that you're just going to go for it but if she stops you you're completely fine/unperturbed. You don't need to verbalize this attitude.

[–]BBB2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did not finger her. I was rubbing her vagina with her pants on and once I got the pants off immediately she asks if I have a condom as that is the point in which sex was imminent.......so I didn't even get around to fingering her. When I say no condom she immediately sits up and logic kicks in. So it would be awkward to insert my hands in her vagina at that point.

[–]TenaciousTriscuit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Similar thing happened to me, though I knew the girl from my life outside of the internet.

Anyway, first date we watch movies at her house and drink. we are having a great time kissing and stuff. I actually liked this girl a lot, she loved pretty much everything I was into. So we are making out and she says she wants to have sex when we are sober, awesome, me too I can respect that. So morning comes around which the whole night was a huge cock tease. Sleeping together/her rubbing all over me. we get breakfast in the morning....which I payed for also I brought her beer...I know beta move but I was super beta at the time. We come back and have sex, then I leave shortly after cause she had work. We talk for a while and plan to meet the next weekend. also I drove an hour to see her -__-. So we go to her house, same deal. We have sex which I thought was great. I leave, same deal as before. She texts me a few hours after this saying that she didnt like me...I was wondering why. So I asked her and she said she is turned off because I "Forced Myself on Her". I am in awe and completely shocked that she said that. I was respectful...I didnt even start to undress her or anything like that...then eventually she LEAD me upstairs to her room. That was that, I havent spoken to her since. But she pretty much had me swallowing the red pill....Thank God for her because I finally opened my eyes. I assume it was the fact that my SMV was not high enough

[–]doithowitgo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's kind of the cardinal rule if you want to get laid, - when a chick stops you, don't stop forever, she's just saying not now......so re-engage and see if she's willing to go farther.

From a man's perspective, you are pathetic. From a woman's perspective, you are dangerous. This is inappropriate conduct and you should be banned from any network in which people are seeking consensual sex.

[–]craftmaticrabbit -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Makeshift condom with seran wrap!

[–]JerfFoo -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

I've never had an online-dating encounter that didn't go so well and instantly blamed the other person. My first thought is always, "what could I have done differently?"

OP, I would assume you have terrible filtering skills. You shouldn't be trying to have casual encounters with every person who messages you back from Match.com. If you're trying that, you're gonna run into this situation again and again.

She was obviously OK with kissing, but why did you try to fuck her a second time after she said no the first? If you want casual encounters, you don't sound capable of making sexually-awkward people comfortable. You should avoid them, and you should probably stick to meeting up with people who explicitly want the same thing. Did you even talk with her about sex before getting wine in her? Believe it or not, someone talking to you("about tons of different topics") isn't an invitation to bang them.

Does your profile even signify your interest in hook ups? Or do you conveniently leave that out? Did her profile signify she was explicitly interested in meeting up with LTR/monogamous-minded people? Or did you conveniently ignore that?

You left out a lot of details about the encounter(pretty much all of them) and without them you sound like a creep.

OP, also, did you consider she felt rejected by you? She might have taken you "not being able to find a condom" as an excuse. Or more likely, she got the impression you "forgetting to have a condon" was a pathetic attempt at raw-dogging her against her wishes.

[–]BBB2000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well this is what I'm trying to figure out......sex topics kissing occured before I even suggested a bounce to "my house"..........surely she had some thought what going to my house would entail. also people on match don't put down casual encounters. She had on her profile date to have fun and if something good comes maybe I can find someone for more.