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MetaLet's stop giving BP/White Knight Websites Traffic (self.TheRedPill)
submitted 6 months ago by bluemyselfearly19
First of all, I would like to commend the excellent job that the mods like /u/redpillschool and all the other mods have been doing to keep this subreddit afloat. I can't imagine that it's an easy job to keep a 60K+ sub strong with great content.
One thing that I have unfortunately been noticing is people often directly linking to Blue Pill and Feminine Imperative websites like Huffington Post, Buzzfeed, Jezebel, Daily Dot, etc.....
This is bad for a number of reasons. This gives groups that run the table on public discourse in the west all the power and cards. It also legitimizes BP viewpoints and discourages the people that need to find this community most from making the leap. This perpetuates the pretty little lies like 'be yourself' and 'don't learn game because it's evil and manipulative.' It also gives them more money and more power, which isn't needed in the west.
Folks should try to screenshot BP websites or examples or use services like 'donotlink' to help mitigate this.
TL:DR: Let's not give BP/mangina/Feminine Imperative websites traffic. Instead, folks should screenshot those sites or use donotlink.com to avoid giving them traffic.
[–]gabilromariz 53 points54 points55 points 6 months ago (16 children)
Yes, this. I remember a similar PSA about the Westboro Baptist Church since hate traffic was just the same as any traffic for ad revenue and that was their primary means of support
[–]sagarsash 4 points5 points6 points 6 months ago (13 children)
The irony is that many people will have googled the Westboro Baptists after reading your comment...
[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 13 points14 points15 points 6 months ago (0 children)
I'm pretty sure most people know them as the idiots who run protests at funerals and stupid shit like that... Oh yeah and the idiots who run around carrying 'God Hates Fags' signs.
[–]massrabbler 2 points3 points4 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Googling them doesn't give them money, so far as I know.
I wouldn't go to their website though
[+]gabilromariz comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 6 months ago (10 children)
Oh shit, are people really that stupid? At least go read the stuff other people wrote about them instead of funding those shitheads
[–]Esminia 9 points10 points11 points 6 months ago* (8 children)
Yeah, let's read completely biased opinions of peoples over a subject. Thanks for the sick advice mate.
Even if they are shit, it's better to just go directly on their site to understand who they truly are; the scum of the earth. Everyone who knows how to computer has adblock already anyway.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 months ago (7 children)
I've often wondered why people feel the need to copy and paste massive walls of text instead of just urging others to use ad block. It gums up the comments for mobile users.
[–]Esminia 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (6 children)
Can't you use adblock on phones ?
[–]JJTheJetPlane5657 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
I believe only on rooted/jailbroken phones. But yes.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 months ago (3 children)
I'm not sure. A lot of ads don't show up on mobile, though.
But what I'm saying is, I go to the comment section of these posts on my mobile device and the copied text from the OP is extremely inconvenient. I often find the comments more useful than the post itself, and it would be nice if there wasn't a massive wall of text that I have to scroll past.
At the very least, people should leave the karma of the copied text at a 1 so it's at the bottom of the page. I mean, in a perfect world. I realize I'm asking a bit much.
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (1 child)
Again, I realize I'm asking too much. I don't actually expect anyone to cater to me.
[–]IDefyAxioms 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Yes, people really are. Look at any thread mentioning TRP. Someone (or two, or three) will inevitably ask the question "What is RP?" and get a feminazi/blue-pill answer, and accept it as fact.
[–]NJBarFly 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Who the fuck is advertising on the Westboro Baptist website?
[–]Glenbert 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Jesus, it's NOT 1994. You are not making these people thousand-aires by linking to them. Ad revenue is not that high. So what's left? Traffic? OK, what do they really get from traffic? The lines in Google analytics go up. Yay! SEO authority? Can't you just put No Follow, No Index tags on everything here by default? (<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOINDEX, NOFOLLOW">)
[–]WillClickOnAnything 24 points25 points26 points 6 months ago (6 children)
Can the mods just disable link posts? I've gotten in the habit of hovering over post links before clicking to make sure I'm not going to huffpo or some other bullshit site.
[–]1 Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 12 points13 points14 points 6 months ago (2 children)
I second this. IIRC it's also part of the posting rules here that you should make a .self post and at least provide some of your thoughts on why you are posting a particular link.
That lazy behaviour of just posting links has become pretty frequent and became annoying to me.
I am often not interested to read another three pages of a hamster on overdrive, because I just can't be bothered to care anymore, but am much more interested in the thoughts provided by both the poster and the commenters. That's were the gold is for me in my personal development ATM. I am also able to judge if it's worth my time to at least cross read the provided content to get something out of it.
I am pretty sure that this, combined with the application of the existing rule to provide some thoughts, would also dramatically decrease the "I'm offended by this!!!"-posts, which have little to no value at all. Even if you are in the legendary anger phase you can be expected to provide a little bit more than a bold expression of disgust for the mob. I mean: Come on! Even fucking tumblr dipshits manage to provide one or two sentences. We are supposed to do better than them.
We have a bot which is able to prevent you from giving simple and short advices like "Go to /r/becomeaman", which results in people adding bullshit to their post to trick the bot, but allow this kind of lazyness.
After all we are here to improve ourselves. Starting to actually think about something and drawing your own conclusions from it is a part of this. At least in my book.
By the way: Banning Daily Mail and Huffpo would be greatly appreciated by me. I always feel a little bit dumber after I accidently clicked one of those links and was forced to at least read the headline.
[–]the_meme-master 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (1 child)
Good points, by I don't think we should ban links all together, just make sure people are aware that they don't link a stupid site if they don't need too.
There are a lot of times when links to outside websites are very helpful, even if we give them a little traffic. The knowledge gained is worth it sometimes IMO.
[–]1 Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago (0 children)
I don't see a problem in forcing people to make self. post which contains text AND the link.
[–]RPDBF 4 points5 points6 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Yea I agree this sub should be self-post only, because frankly if you care about your karma thats not very redpill in the first place.
[–]smile_e_face 2 points3 points4 points 6 months ago (1 child)
Reddit Enhancement Suite puts the site that a post links to to the right of the title. Very useful for filtering out sites you don't want to visit.
[–]WillClickOnAnything 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Yeah, I know but I'm a web dev so hover and check status bar is second nature to me. But every now and then I blindly click hence my username lol.
[–]2 Mredpillschool[M] 10 points11 points12 points 6 months ago (7 children)
If you guys get a comprehensive list of domains to block, I'll put it in automoderator, and have him send a message to posters to use donotlink instead.
[–]bluemyselfearly19[S] 11 points12 points13 points 6 months ago* (6 children)
This is off the top of my head. Others can feel free to chime in:
This isn't a comprehensive list, but it's just ones on the top of my head that are BP as fuck.
*Edit: I noticed I got flack some of my links. I don't wanna make the RP some censored circlejerk. I'll just leave it these few sites as opposed to my initial post. Others can add more if they'd like.
[–]through_a_ways 2 points3 points4 points 6 months ago (0 children)
You forgot xojane.
I'm not sure if Thought Catalog is truly feminist, as I've seen a preponderance of "post-sarcasm" saboteur-type articles, which indirectly attack feminism with tongue-in-cheek humor (but are just discreet enough to be taken seriously by most people).
There was that one guy from misc who made a bunch of articles under a false name, pretending to be a woman. All his articles painted the picture of a very obviously bitchy and double-standarding feminist woman, but the articles were just serious enough to not be obvious parody to most.
I've seen a few other articles like that on TC, written by others. I suspect it's a trend.
If I'm right, TC could actually be anti-feminist.
[–]theredpillager 4 points5 points6 points 6 months ago (2 children)
I logged on to disagree with Daily Mail UK being listed here. Aren't they who covered that case of the false rape allegations lady in recent news? That article did not take the blame off her, as I recall. Maybe I just haven't read enough, but I don't find them to be too offensive on this count.
[–]bluemyselfearly19[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (1 child)
I'm indifferent to them personally, but I have heard people complain about the Daily Mail's material sometimes.
[–]whowhathuhumm -1 points0 points1 point 6 months ago (0 children)
Irrational blow offs, they can't articulate what's wrong with a particular story, they just discount it all because it came from the daily mail.
[–]SFofallplaces 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
I’ve seen anti-feminism articles on Thought Catalog, as well.
[–]zpatriarchy 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
i listed most of those on my blog, also the atlantic,
the good mangina project
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Agreed, I try to provide a screenshot when I find someone linking to some BP/feminist clickbait site.
I'd recommend Nimbus for screenshots. Here it is for Chrome and Firefox.
[–]bluemyselfearly19[S] 16 points17 points18 points 6 months ago (1 child)
I know this is outdated, but here's a link on Vox Day's blog that estimates that traffic that major manosphere sites get in comparison to Jezebel. The long and short of it is that the traffic of the heavy hitters on all the major manoshpere sites combined pale in comparison to Jezebel's 46+ million views a quarter. Further proof on why we shouldn't give BP/mangina/White Knight websites more traffic. They get plenty as it is.
[–]PhilipeNegro 10 points11 points12 points 6 months ago (0 children)
What you're actually saying is that most women don't have enough to do in the day.
[–]GreatWhite_Buffalo 8 points9 points10 points 6 months ago (1 child)
I discovered RoK because some girl posted the "how to tell if she's a slut" article on FB to tell people how offensive it was. Lol.
[–]Endorsed ContributorpuaSenator 24 points25 points26 points 6 months ago (1 child)
Why should we give a shit? Why should I burden myself to screen cap a page when I don't have to? Regardless of the amount of traffic the get has absolutely no bearing on my life.
It's not like this is a war between ideas, even though they'd like to believe that. It doesn't matter if their site explodes or dies. At the end of the day we know TRP is right, and the opposition is irrelevant.
[–]bluemyselfearly19[S] 12 points13 points14 points 6 months ago (0 children)
While I don't consider myself an MRA, I can't say I agree with the whole 'watch the world burn' type of mentality. I know mine and my own will make it through this fine, but my tax dollars go towards perpetuating the feminine imperative and a dysfunctional society. I'm game for doing any small thing I can to not line the pockets of Manginas and White Knights, but that's just me. No man is an island.
[–]bankruptmorals 2 points3 points4 points 6 months ago (0 children)
I usually make it a habit of not clicking on any of those links when I see them. If I'm ever curious I usually go right to the comments, where someone usually posts a TDLR or some excerpt.
[–]Not_Reliable 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Why is this a big deal, do you really think links from our sub give make a drop in their ad revenue? There are 60k subs here, probably 10k max that read each post. Probably 5k that view the direct article. 5k out of the millions of views these sites already get a day makes no difference, it's just a hassle
[–]diablomalambero 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Let us not forget Gawker and Buzzfeed!
[–]machimus 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago (0 children)
For how little we hurt them by not reading something on their site, I really don't care enough to try. It costs more of our time and effort not to than it gives to them.
They can have .001 cents for all I care if I get a chuckle out of their absurd articles.
[–]colovick 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Doesn't adblock stop most ad revenue?
[–]insane_psycho 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Easy fix is to post a screencap of the page instead of posting a link and giving them traffic. Kinds like how linking to other reddit threads works here.
[–]Dopamine37 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Is it possible that the trpbot can be used to automatically block sites to Jezebel and feminism sites, only to give advice and tell you to use donotlink
[–]The_Fart_Of_God 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
I agree because those websites give shitty advices, but gathering ourselves to be an organized force would be authocratic. Let the downvotes and upvotes filter out the bad posts.
[–]SpongeCroft 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
true. thanks for pointing this out, i'll keep it in mind for my next post. the internet just isn't fair "sometimes" lol
[–]TheRedTrader 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Just get the bot to filter the most well known blue pill sites notifying the poster that they must post some sort of screenshot instead. There is no need to go crazy with this, I would start with the ones mentioned by the OP and be very cautious of adding more.
[–]duckducklandwhale 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
I agree that sites shouldnt be linked to feminists but it's absurd to classify HuffPo or the Buzzfeed as feminists. In fact one of the better anti-feminist articles Ive read was on HuffPo (and often links RP examples) and the "Why I Dont Need Feminism" anti-feminist pictures were on Buzzfeed last week too. Daily Dot should just all around be avoided because it's charlatan shit that hopes to become a real paper and Jezebel is just feminist shit
[–]arhombus 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (12 children)
I don't like how TRP has been lumped in with anti-liberal anti-Democratic BS. It's about self improvement, is it not? Why all the liberal bashing? What's wrong with Huffpo or buzzfeed?
[–]huoyuanjiaa 7 points8 points9 points 6 months ago (2 children)
Political bs aside, I find that site to have tons of irrational feminist articles. I am in favor of it being blocked.
[–]arhombus 5 points6 points7 points 6 months ago (1 child)
I don't think anything should be blocked. Everything should be open for discussion, or you end up in a bubble.
[–]huoyuanjiaa 3 points4 points5 points 6 months ago (0 children)
But it's not censored just posted in an alternative format, a screenshot.
[–]Nerf_Circus 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago (3 children)
Political views aren't related to the subreddit.
[–]through_a_ways 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (1 child)
Political views aren't related to the subreddit.
This is technically true, but practically false. The truth is that everything this subreddit recognizes to be true and/or stands for is anti-leftist.
[–]rpkarma 2 points3 points4 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Depends on the definition of "leftist". If by that you mean the straight up Cultural Marxist-Feminist hard-left, then fuck yeah. But in the same way, that's somewhat of a straw-man in my opinion, in the same way someone saying the right is all Westboro Baptist Church Kill-The-Fags, which some are, but most aren't.
/signed, a centre-ist
[–]thesaltysoup -2 points-1 points0 points 6 months ago (3 children)
Democracy gave women the right to vote, and liberalism gave the imperative to vote leftist. Neither are good things.
[–]arhombus 1 point2 points3 points 6 months ago* (2 children)
Are you serious or did I just miss the /s tag?
No I didn't. You're also a racist motherfucker, arentcha? You really disgust me with some of things you say and I'm fairly open minded and not swayed much by any sort of political correctness. Reddit isn't 4chan and thus doesn't have the same unfiltered nature, being not completely anonymous. I hope that you don't go around speaking like you type. It's just low class shit.
[–]thesaltysoup -2 points-1 points0 points 6 months ago (1 child)
Hey bud, back up here. What's your deal? How's that racist at all?
[–]Echelon64 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
White Knight Websites Traffic
White Knight Websites Traffic
Or just use adblock with easylist. Doesn't matter how much traffic they get if they get no cash.
[–]1CaptainFalconer -1 points0 points1 point 6 months ago (0 children)
Sounds great, but for the life of me, I can't seem to get donotlink to work on android
[–]pounds_not_dollars -1 points0 points1 point 6 months ago (0 children)
This is the most pettiest thing I see on this sub. Can we just acknowledge that hits don't mean anything?
[–]zephyrprime -1 points0 points1 point 6 months ago (0 children)
Without us posting on those sites, people won't ever even hear about redpill. I don't think the amount of traffic we give them is that much anyway. Worrying about shit like this is really petty.
[+][deleted] comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points 6 months ago (1 child)
Yeah you guys should just keep citing made up reddit posts.
[–]BoyMeetsHarem 6 points7 points8 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Or, you know, our personal experience of how the world really works. Fuck off troll.
[+]AutomaticJack320 comment score below threshold-20 points-19 points-18 points 6 months ago (12 children)
Hmmm yes, I see where you're going with this....
Let's squash ALL dissenting opinions so that TRP is the only point of view available. That is in no way childish or sinister.
[–]Kanyin 17 points18 points19 points 6 months ago (2 children)
So posting screenshots of the content instead of linking to it is squashing dissenting opinions? Yeah you're an idiot.
[–]AutomaticJack320 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (1 child)
I believe it is. Why deny their site the click for viewing their information. Eventually, they will have no support at all if you get everyone to do this.
Just give them the click mate, whats the harm. They do 'work' just like you do.
[–]Nerf_Circus 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
I'm not in favour of this screenshot bs, but you need to rethink your position. Do you really think Huffpost relies on traffic flow the manosphere to stay afloat?
[–]duglock 2 points3 points4 points 6 months ago (2 children)
Censorship is wrong, but this isn't censorship. What OP is suggesting is just an alternative method of accessing data to deny the site pageviews and ad revenue.
I understand, I misread the post...I still think that denying these sites pageviews and ad revenue is childish. If you want to see the information, just give them the click- why is that so destructive? They have their voice and um...'TRP' has uh..'theirs.'
[–]huoyuanjiaa 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Op gave reasons and logic as to why, your claim is it's childish...
[–]Ralt 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (4 children)
If you want to debate TRP go to another subreddit like /r/PurplePillDebate, this is not the place and not wanted. We're not here to discuss the viability of TRP, but to implement it.
[–]AutomaticJack320 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (3 children)
I'm sorry, how does 'implementing' TRP differ from debating TRP..? TRP is just for statements? And the PurplePill is where you can discuss?
Is there no room for dissent in TRP? "If you don't like it, leave" is that the message this sub is sending?
[–]Ralt -1 points0 points1 point 6 months ago (2 children)
Is there no room for dissent in TRP?
Is there no room for dissent in TRP?
Essentially. There is room for growth, new ideas, discussion, and questions, but dissent is not wanted or needed. Doing so would probably get you banned with a quickness. If you want to complain do it elsewhere, we don't want it here.
So its ok to discuss, ask questions, and share new ideas, as long as they are of the opinions that are already stated on this sub...sounds like a circlejerk to me man.
Or is it that if the opinion is of one that hasn't been expressed on this sub it must be a 'complaint?'
Please, explain to me carefully how these questions are hurting this sub or its message. If TRP is as just a cause as some would have us believe, it should be able to stand up to debate and discussion.
I don't think the Nazis wanted dissent either, just a thought.
[–]Ralt -1 points0 points1 point 6 months ago (0 children)
I don't care what you think this sub is or isn't. I'm simply stating how this place is run, if you don't really like it, you're free to leave.
[–]RPsixthree -1 points0 points1 point 6 months ago (0 children)
Yes, you obviously understood the post.
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[–]TheOpposingView 13 points14 points15 points 6 months ago (4 children)
What part of their money is not real? What part of you and this subreddit being a pawn in their income scheme is not real?
[–]through_a_ways -1 points0 points1 point 6 months ago (0 children)
What part of you and this subreddit being a pawn in their income scheme is not real?
What part of you and this subreddit being a pawn in their income scheme is not real?
I don't agree with that guy, but I suspect that the revenue generated by TRP for sites like Jizzabel isn't very significant.
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[–]TheOpposingView 6 points7 points8 points 6 months ago (1 child)
Well, I do give a fuck. Since you so loudly don't, I guess the change in policy should not be a particularly big deal.
[–]RPsixthree 0 points1 point2 points 6 months ago (0 children)
Yea how would an individual ever be influenced by the masses... Beats me
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