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    [–]tossing_cockrings 23 points24 points  (0 children)

    |I would have judged people more on their actions not their words. Especially women. Let them think you are listening, but always watch them.

    ^ THIS

    [–]Stormhammer 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    To be fair, divorce doesn't always rule in a guy paying the girl.

    Source: my sister had to pay her ex-husband $20,000 because she made more money than he did.

    [–][deleted] 383 points384 points  (196 children)

    I wouldn't have had kids.

    I wouldn't have "respected" the women I did by not "taking advantage of the situation". In other words, when I had the opportunity to have sex with a woman I wanted to have sex with I would have. Every single time I did not it destroyed whatever relationship I though we had. Most of the time the consequenses of not doing the deed were more fucked up than if I had just helped her cheat.

    I wouldn't have hesitated to kiss the girl. Ever. I'd just be forward with my desires. Get the fear of rejection out of the way immediately instead of "waiting for the right moment".

    I should have realized sooner that no one wants to be my mother. Fuck sharing your feelings. No one wants to hear your insecurities and coddle you. They only want to hear your GOOD feelings. Anything else alienates you and makes your emotional state worse.

    In retrospect, I didn't need anyone in my life except myself. Being alone is awesome and optimal. There is more sex, more money and more freedom in being alone.

    Marriage is for chumps. Don't get married unless she is substantially richer than you, and then only do so if you can handle the long game. There is nothing good about being married. Seriously.

    "Alpha" traits aren't just about getting chicks. Success in all walks of life come from them. You make a hell of a lot more money being "Alpha".

    Trust no one. Nobody has your back. No body. Sure, there are great people out there who are awesome to hang out with, but the only one responsible for you is you.

    Stay fit and lift. And for the love of all that is holy, STRETCH. Life sucks ass when you start to stiffen up, and no matter how tough you are, your body starts to just fucking seize up eventually if you aren't stretching. I think if I went back in time I'd get into yoga in my 20's and do it once a week religiously.

    Social dynamics beats hard work any day. It is better to have drinks with the boss than stay late at the office. Hard work gets little respect. Politics is the only thing that matters. The popular kids in high school were right all along.

    Dress well. There is no easier way to place yourself at the top of the pecking order in normal society, and being at the top has massive advantages.

    Kids aren't worth it. If you like kids, then coach a sports team or visit your friends and play with their kids. Kids are fucking hard work and they don't appreciate it until they have kids of their own. Never will you have to slave so hard for freindship.

    [–]3 Endorsed ContributorRedPope 64 points65 points  (4 children)

    I saw this headline and immediately started composing an essay in my head. I'd have said a few things different (my kids are worth it), but you covered the bases.

    Especially this:

    I wouldn't have hesitated to kiss the girl. Ever. I'd just be forward with my desires. Get the fear of rejection out of the way immediately instead of "waiting for the right moment".

    The most significant improvement from when I was 20, 25, 30, and even 35? I no longer hesitate. No more counting to three. No testing he water. No wait, no delay, no second thoughts. The first approach, the first kiss, and every escalation: zero hesitation.

    Not just romance. This applies to all parts of life. Big career decision? Take your time and carefully evaluate your options, but the instant you make a decision is the same instant you take action.

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    [–]boscoist 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    There is a great scene in "we were soldiers" regarding hesitiation, it was durong training when they were unloading from helicopters. Hal Moore walks up to a helicopter coming in and grabs the lt onboard yelling "BAM, YOUR OFFICER IS DEAD WHAT DO YOU DO?" The fguy next to him hesitates and gets shoved back, "He's dead, what do you do?" The next guy finally replies "get off the chopper" while jumping out.

    Also "beter a crap plan now than a perfect plan next week" (patton i think)

    [–]Red_King_Rising 143 points144 points  (78 children)

    This guy nailed it. The only thing I would add is this.

    Don't trust her. She's never on birth control. Even if you saw her take her pill, SHE IS NEVER ON BIRTH CONTROL. Treat a vagina like a gun, always keep the safety on. Always assume that a firearm is always loaded and always assume that SHE IS NEVER ON BIRTH CONTROL. I really don't know how else to stress it.

    [–]Kewl_Kid 33 points34 points  (35 children)

    So in other words, are you saying we should use a condom every single time?

    [–]Timmytanks40 53 points54 points  (31 children)

    My roommate and i were shooting the shit and we decided the lack of male birth control is a total conspiracy. We landed on fucking comet last year but my best option for preventing pregnancy is sausage casing? GTFO with that shit. Ladies got their shit in like the 50s or something. I just dont understand how thats even possible.

    Can a Dr or pharmacist tell me what the fucks up? I undertand one egg is a lot easier to block than a a few million. What i dont understand is why i need to cut my balls off to enjoy worry free fucks.

    [–]TheVexedGerman 45 points46 points  (3 children)

    I'm no doctor, but I have a basic understanding of how "the pill" works. Basically females already have a built in "off" switch for egg dispersal that is triggered during pregnancy so that no ovum is wasted. The pill is just the hormone to make her reproductive system think it's pregnant.

    As for a male pill, we still have to figure it out from the beginning. Males never had an advantage not dispersing sperm, so there is no off trigger. So now research is done on how to chemically sterilize men, and make it reversible.

    [–]beerthroway 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    So now research is done on how to chemically sterilize men, and make it reversible.

    That's the tough part. There are many herbs the world over that will sterilize men. Though they stay that way.

    I don't imagine it would be a hormonal fix. Physical seems easiest, vasalgel for example. Chemical would be nice, but neutralizing swimmers without hurting the diving board and two beach balls seems tough. We are pretty much geared towards always on.

    [–]dat_shermstick 33 points34 points  (10 children)

    Vasalgel, a reversible, non-hormonal polymer that blocks the vas deferens, is about to enter human trials.

    Male BC coming in 2017, supposedly.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/09/we-ll-have-male-birth-control-by-2017.html

    [–]blandboringusername 20 points21 points  (7 children)

    I'm no conspiracy theory fan, but you have to wonder why Vasalgel is being developed by the Parsemus Foundation which is a non-profit dedicated to developing shit that nobody thinks will make money (and that women know will cost them a fuck-ton of child support $$$, so there's that).

    From the drug companies' perspective, selling monthly pills to women and condoms to men is much more profitable than a once a decade reversible vas deferens shot for men. Hell, if you were marooned on a desert island with the Swedish Bikini Team and you wanted to set yourself up as an island patriarch and make a lot of babies, it would wear off by itself in a few years. Just keep humping. It'll happen.

    [–]PRjuan 16 points17 points  (3 children)

    i love how the media has made a person who thinks and questions the status quo a "conspiracy theorist" and equated with crazy

    i think you are right: profits > health, for any company any day

    [–]Heuristics 38 points39 points  (0 children)

    Been hearing about this all my life. It's always just a few years away.

    [–]ballonetje3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Trust me, this won't come trough unless they find a way to make it economically feasable enough to compensate for losses made by reducing female birthcontrole consumtion That and the testingphase, which takes a long time because the product lasts years

    [–]MagnanimousGenius 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    My roommate and i were shooting the shit and we decided the lack of male birth control is a total conspiracy.

    Agreed, I'm willing to bet the majority of sexually active males (in LTR's or not) would take the pill if it were available. I'd take it without telling my partner and still wear a condom.

    And then take a sperm test as a back up plan. But that would put men and women on more equal grounding reproducing wise and we couldn't have that now could we?

    http://www.avoiceformen.com/men/mens-issues/the-real-reasons-we-do-not-have-a-male-birth-control-pill/

    I'm afraid we'll never get Vasagel or any other viable alternative but here's hoping I'm wrong and it comes soon as we're told.

    [–]Ovadox 14 points15 points  (0 children)

    Vasectomy. Like the guy above said (great post BTW), "Kids aren't worth it." That said, if you're spinning multiple plates wearing condoms is still a good idea to prevent an STD. Source: Has an STD, didn't get it til I stopped wearing condoms after being in an LTR for a little while. Women lie about more than being on birth control....

    [–]Red_King_Rising 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    That or get snipped and tell no one. I've had friends who have had a field day with that one when she suddenly turns up pregnant and then implodes when she realizes that she just got caught being a lying cheating whore.

    [–][deleted] 61 points62 points  (1 child)

    Rule 1 of vagina safety: The vagina is always loaded.

    [–]Draki1903 28 points29 points  (0 children)

    It should be pumped but not loaded.

    [–]thebalrog_ofmorgoth 15 points16 points  (7 children)

    honest concern: condoms are the mother-fucking WORST. putting my dong in a latex prison takes like half the fun out of it

    [–]1GRRMkills 9 points10 points  (2 children)

    It's not even just that. They rip a quarter of the goddamn time. Even when used correctly they are way less effective than the pill. I absolutely do not trust condoms alone for birth control, and would only really use them to protect from STDs or as a backup

    [–]blandboringusername 12 points13 points  (1 child)

    I absolutely do not trust condoms alone for birth control

    Honest advertising: "Use condoms! They're 82% effective!"

    [–]boobiemcgoogle 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    Use condoms! It's better than the pull and pray!"

    [–]vicious_armbar 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    Yeah it blows! You know what sucks worse? Getting thrown in jail without: a trial, the right to legal counsel, the right to face your accuser, or the right to be judged by a jury of your peers. All because a captain save a hoe judge holds you in contempt for not being able to pay unreasonably high child support.

    [–]aesthetic-as-fuck 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Kimono micro thin. They're fine not a big deal. Unless you have an eggplant God, these are fucking awesome. Amazon or a dildo store will have them

    [–]MagnanimousGenius 17 points18 points  (1 child)

    I should have realized sooner that no one wants to be my mother. Fuck sharing your feelings. No one wants to hear your insecurities and coddle you. They only want to hear your GOOD feelings. Anything else alienates you and makes your emotional state worse.

    This is probably the best advice for dealing with people in general. I have a friend who has turned off a lot of people recently because of his depression. Sad, but it's just the way it is. People don't care about your problems, unless you're really really good friends - and even then, being a complete downer the entire time would be a turn off anyway.

    Abundance mentality need not apply only to game

    [–]Glenbert 33 points34 points  (13 children)

    Social dynamics beats hard work any day. It is better to have drinks with the boss than stay late at the office. Hard work gets little respect. Politics is the only thing that matters. The popular kids in high school were right all along

    Fuck yes. It took me until I was 35 (i.e. last month) to truly understand this. I used to have lunch with my CEO once a week. Dude was going to make me VP. Board forces him out and we have a new CEO. I decide to give him space to come up to speed and meet with him twice in the space of 3 months. And I hit all my goals, grow all my numbers. Guess who's first on the chopping block when the new CEO decides to downsize? Me.

    B-b-but I hit all my goals! Doesn't matter. Fuck you.

    This is just an anecdote, but looking back, I now see a perfectly matching pattern of where I took steps ahead and steps back in my career. Also, if this sounds a little fantastic to anyone, bear in mind this is from startup land. One minute you're a VP and 2 months later, you're working for some virgin 10 years younger than you.

    [–]unsuckable9335 22 points23 points  (8 children)

    There is more sex, more money and more freedom in being alone.

    anytime someone asks be why I'm alone, I'm going to quote them this.

    [–]magnum_dignitas 28 points29 points  (6 children)

    Studies show that there is actually way less sex being alone. It sucks sometimes, but you're always in it for the thrill of the hunt. When I'm not with someone, I get to have sex with more people but, it's a lot more work and far more infrequent when I'm in a steady relationship. It's harder to show up at midnight, wake a plate up, and have sex than with someone who was expecting it before they went to sleep.

    But seriously, never get married.

    [–]vicious_armbar 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    Studies show that there is actually way less sex being alone.

    Even if this is true and you ignore the fact that loser incels are skewing the numbers; this doesn't account for quality. After you've been with a woman for a while fucking her is like sticking your dick in a piece of breathing meat. You literally get no more pleasure from it then jerking off.

    Saying that married men get more sex is like bragging that you fucked 3 women last week. But conveniently omitting the fact that they were all over 300 lbs, and their pussies smelled like a rancid fish market. It doesn't account for the quality of the sex.

    [–]mcwilshire 20 points21 points  (0 children)

    Studies show that there is actually way less sex being alone.

    That's partially the old correlation/causation thing at work again. Marriage is still the default in our society and most men who can get married do get married. The remainder for the most part aren't alpha playboys, they're loners and losers. If you are successful with women and choose to remain unmarried, if marriage is an option you willingly go without, your sex life isn't going to look the same as the average never married man.

    It's sorta the same thing as younger guys and LTR's. Most of the guys I know who never have a girlfriend are lost when it comes to women and can't get sex, period. They'd certainly have more sex if they had a girlfriend, but what does that prove?

    [–]doritoesNcoffee 6 points7 points  (3 children)

    Would you rather have sex twice a week and then jerk off for the remaining 5 days but be single? Or would you rather have sex 7 times a week but be married?

    Something tells me that if you ask your average married man, they will go with the first choice.

    [–]siegristrm 44 points45 points  (0 children)

    7 times a week... Hahahahahahahaha!

    [–]1grendalor 14 points15 points  (0 children)

    Heh -- no married man is having sex seven times a week, lol.

    Yes, married guys have more sex, numerically, because the woman is there. Those studies don't talk about the quality of the sex or the quality of his orgasms, however.

    It depends on what you prefer -- regular sex with the same person (which will be boring after years no matter how you change things up), or less frequent sex with new, exciting partners. Most men prefer the latter, if they can pull it off, or, historically, have preferred to have both. Nowadays, it's easier just to avoid the marriage part.

    [–]RPModulator 23 points24 points  (14 children)

    Great post. Only point I will argue is

    Social dynamics beats hard work any day. It is better to have drinks with the boss than stay late at the office. Hard work gets little respect. Politics is the only thing that matters. The popular kids in high school were right all along.

    This is much less likely to be true in highly skilled professions. If very few people can do what you do, and do it extremely well (think top flight neurosurgeon), you have some leeway to be a dick. That being said, a little schmoozing, and generally being nice to people, never hurts . . .

    [–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (5 children)

    I am at the top of my field in a very skilled profession. It takes real skill to get near the top, but trust me, once you are there it's all about politics. You need to have the skills to get the street cred, but if you don't have the political skills you will just be a pawn in a larger game.

    [–]bonerfleximus 5 points6 points  (3 children)

    Agree, being in a similar boat. Went from being one of the most skilled people at what I do in a fortune 50 company to being another cog in a badass startup full of people smarter than me. My skill merely got me in the door.

    [–]elevul 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    one of the most skilled people at what I do in a fortune 50 company

    badass startup full of people smarter than me

    You took the "if you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room" advice at heart?

    [–]1grendalor 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Yup.

    I'm also in a very highly skilled profession. Once you get to a certain level in it, everyone is highly skilled. What separates people at that level is social dynamics, and politicking well. It's fine if you're ok with being higher than average status (than the regular joe schmoes), but lower status within that smaller group, but red pill guys shouldn't be happy with that. We should aim to be in the dominant pack in any group we belong to, and for those of us who work in areas where everyone around us is also very highly skilled, the key to getting some separation from the pack is social dynamics and maneuvering, without question. Your skills at that level are a given, really, and don't separate you from the pack.

    [–]unsuckable9335 5 points6 points  (4 children)

    Being in a moderately skilled profession (programmer), I agree with this. The more skill is required, the less the social aspect is required.

    [–]DoctorWelch 40 points41 points  (2 children)

    Not if you want to move up in the ranks and become the person managing those with the skills. Having amazing skills is great, but if you can't play the game, lead a meeting, and be a general people person then you will forever be the peon managed by someone less skilled but more adept at handling people.

    [–]1grendalor 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    Absolutely.

    Managing people is its own skill. It's distinct from being skilled in the substantive work that people are doing. And it's the managing people skill that gets people promoted, not their technical expertise. A company won't fire you if you are technically excellent, but they won't promote you past a certain point, either, if you don't have excellent people skills, which are entirely different from your technical skill.

    Managers don't use much technical skill. They use a lot of people skill, and need to understand enough of the technical skill to manage the people properly, and that's it.

    Again, the question is do you want to be the technically excellent underling, or the people-excellent leader (who makes more money and has more power)? As a red pill man, it should always be the latter.

    [–]Glenbert 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    I know fuck all about being a programmer, but I know a lot about working in companies with programmers. Every. Single. Time. It was always the most social, affable and easy-to-work-with guys who were getting promoted.

    The barriers to entry in this field are really low compared to a "highly skilled" profession like neurosurgery. And they're getting lower. Don't get too comfortable, get out there!

    [–]CloakedOrchid 28 points29 points  (1 child)

    Dress well. There is no easier way to place yourself at the top of the pecking order in normal society, and being at the top has massive advantages.

    It's funny how easy this is, and at the same time how rarely it's utilized. Combine it with good manners and a calm demeanor, and you're golden.

    I'm in college and have no problem convincing girls that I'm 24, or even that I'm a part-time professor. Sales associates sometimes think my mom and I are a couple. I never get carded, and upscale restaurants have no problem asking what I'd like to drink without carding, and even sometimes giving it to me for free if I had to wait for my table or something.

    On top of all that, dressing better on a daily basis means you look better in "formal" clothes when you're required to wear them. It's painfully obvious when someone is only wearing a suit for an interview; don't be that guy.

    "Grace could not exist in an outfit if you were not accustomed to wearing it." -Honoré de Balzac, "Treatise on Elegant Living"

    [–]itaintmebabe108 5 points6 points  (2 children)

    Social dynamics beats hard work any day.

    Yes, this has been a huge lesson the hard way for me throughout my career. Especially if you're working with a lot of women, getting along and not rocking the boat is valued far more than productivity.

    [–]Hughtub 34 points35 points  (12 children)

    "Don't have kids"...

    Sly dog, you're just trying to give your own kids a genetic advantage over the rest of us. "Yeah, reproducing and spreading your genes really sucks, guys. Don't reproduce. hehe. (my children will inherit more of the earth)"

    [–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (2 children)

    Your genes can have the earth. I don't give a shit about my genes. I'm just going to wear these ones out and move on.

    [–]1sailorJery 9 points10 points  (3 children)

    you don't have to have kids in your 20's and 30's though

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      [–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (10 children)

      I don't feel that my genes are really "me". I am my mind. When I am gone, I'm gone. No amount of my genetic material surviving will mean anything to me. In fact, nothing will mean anything to me because I will be dead. I'd rather leave inventions and creations as my legacy than my genes because at least my mind had something to do with that. As for my monet? I'll enjoy it while I'm here. If I'm terminal then I'll probably spend it on travel, hookers and blow and whatever is left I'll leave to whomever I like best after the government is done raping the estate. Its not like I will care, I'll be dead.

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        [–]Stormhammer 4 points5 points  (6 children)

        I share your view on being... disappointed? on TRP's view on having children. What's more interesting is how many say it but don't even have children.

        [–]Lt_Muffintoes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        What do you think about taxation?

        How do you think the breeding situation could be resolved?

        [–]1Dev_on 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Be buried with my last ten dollars in my pocket. Why earn what you don't need? You won't be around to enjoy your lineage anyways.

        It's about living in a society of scarcity vs a society of abundance

        [–]RiseAboveRuin 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        As an ambivalent 26 year old thank you. You may have truly helped alter my life with this post.

        [–]MachoNinja 72 points73 points  (15 children)

        I was good with Money however I would of liked to have done a bit better.

        I purchased my house at 22 and I still live in it, it was paid off in right around 16 years. No matter what happens i will always have this house.

        Stay away from Women, Beer and Cars. By this I mean don't jump into relationships, you will be shocked how much your views will change by 35. There is nothing wrong with having a drink or two, but bars and clubs are cash toilets, and you will gain nothing later in life by drinking yourself retarded in your 20's. By a car with a great long term rating and drive it for 10 years minimum.

        I wish i had stayed in better shape, I found as I got older the better i took care of myself the better i handled life. When you feel good you do good.

        Stay away from people that can not take care of their own life, it may break your heart to turn your back on an old friend, but if they are dragging you down you need to get out. Look out for #1.

        Buy Tools as you need them, and lend them out as needed, if at any point someone doesn't return a tool, cut them off. There is no room in life for people that would not return something you loaned them.

        Dont lend Money, if you have some spare cash, just gift it and call it a day, if you have chosen your friends well, giving a buddy in need a few notes will result in a buddy that shows up at 6am 3 years later to help you build a deck, or at 2 am with a wrench to help fix a broken water heater.

        Read more, it really helps your vocabulary. The ability to articulate and retain information is a skill many have not developed.

        Learn to cook, my weakness in my 20's and 30's was eating out, the cash I dropped on meals over those 20 years could of paid for a very nice cabin.

        Stay out of the snatch trap, young women will use sex to get you to do things you normally wouldn't, Don't let a broad dictate your life.
        Women will also use emotion as a tool to build a relationship, treat dating like a chess match, stay 2 or 3 moves ahead and remember that you are dealing with a completely different animal.

        At 42 I have known at least 2 dozen men that got caught up in the relationship game on a Tuesday night, and woke up 10 years later in hell. Do not sacrifice your mental well being for a taste of the fairer sex.

        Last but certainly not least, do not under any circumstance, ever answer a question like this after 6 fingers of Bourbon.

        [–]vicious_armbar 12 points13 points  (1 child)

        Stay out of the snatch trap, young women will use sex to get you to do things you normally wouldn't, Don't let a broad dictate your life.

        I like this one. Don't do anything for a woman that you wouldn't do for a male friend.

        [–]MachoNinja 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Don't do anything for a woman that you wouldn't do for a male friend.

        And I like this one even better!

        [–]Stormhammer 6 points7 points  (4 children)

        Ugh, cars. I'm 27, I bought my first one when I was 14.

        I've owned 14 cars since. I've also have modified some of those cars. In the past 5 years alone, just to guesstimate, I've spend ~$40k on cars. Cash. Safe to say, I've consolidated down to one car, and soon I'm about to rid myself of it ( Miata ) to a station wagon. Why? To nip away the desire to make a car faster.

        Putting my expensive as shit hobby on hold and focusing on my career.

        [–]KingoftheBeavers 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        thanks for the advice, this thread is making me put my desires for fancy cars aside for a while until I can get some serious wealth in the bank

        [–]BRENDORVEGAS 31 points32 points  (0 children)

        This needs to be a semi-annual post.

        [–]TeamSatan 25 points26 points  (4 children)

        50 next week.

        My best friend died of cancer at 18. This made me realise that our time here is short. Stay positive, work hard, have zero tolerance for idiots that make your life difficult. Learn to read people. People that prove themselves as honest and reliable keep them in your life. Never give anyone who crosses you a second chance.

        Know yourself...if you are strong and can enjoy challenges then get married have kids, for me it is fantastic. Women and money will come and go accept that. Always try to be happy..Being a grumpy prick is no way to live life. Most important is to be physically strong. Image is important and looking and feeling strong as a man gives you many oppurtunities in all areas of life. Be kind, be fair, be happy.

        [–]sir_wankalot_here 21 points22 points  (2 children)

        Learned about marketing. That what people think you are doing is more important then what you actually are doing. Also learned that to make money you have to sell people things, what you sell them doean't matter as long as it is profitable and legal.

        Also I woupd have ditched most of my morality a lot earlier on.

        [–]pennyscan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        I don't agree with the morality thing. I feel really proud over the years of how I've acted myself, how I've treated other people. If I get burned, I pay the price and move on. Their loss.

        If you're talking social consensus morality, then maybe I agree. But personal morality... Being able to look yourself in the mirror and be genuinely proud of who you are and how you've lived. To me, priceless.

        [–]paulcarl 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Learned about marketing.

        Influence by Robert Cialdini is a great book to get into this, it's all about the psychology of getting someone to say yes. It takes the biggest studies in the field and breaks them down so it's fun and easy to understand/read. When you understand how that works, you can recognize when it's being used on you. It can also have some practical applications.

        [–]apackofwankers 21 points22 points  (3 children)

        50 year old here.

        The biological function of women is to rear children, the biological function of men is to support women and children.

        You are more than your biology dictates. Don't get married, and don't have children. You don't need them, they need you. Find a greater purpose in life than reproducing.

        You MUST Read "The Manipulated Man"

        Never ever discuss your finances with anyone, especially women. Any women in your life should be completely in the dark about how much you earn and how much you have in the bank. Get a PO Box for mail from banks, and delete any bank statements that are emailed to you. Some women are natural interrogators - its best to prepare a story is advance for such women. Have a friend interrogate you so you can practise telling your story under duress. The objective here is that you don't want women who are interested in your money making potential. Such women are worth nothing to you, unless you are a cold fish who can identify them quickly and pump-and-dump them.

        You should think of women as moles (like spies). All information given to them should be on a need to know basis only. Information is like money - ask yourself what you are getting in return for any given price of information. Do not share freely.

        If you have a business, structure it such that it is an offshore trust. Have the trust own everything, your house, your car, etc. The trust can provide your woman with a car, if necessary.

        If you ignore the advice on not getting married, get a pre-nup. The best time to discuss that is in the context of wedding vows. "Honey, we need to talk about the wedding vows and the pre-nup"

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          [–]RespiratoryTherapist 41 points42 points  (9 children)

          Vasectomy.... Best choice I ever made. At this point I don't even disclose it. One day a chick is going to tell me shes pregnant and bam I'll be able to play the im sterile it's not mine card.

          [–][deleted] 46 points47 points  (4 children)

          I've had that happen once. Best "we need to talk" call I ever got.

          [–]seattleron[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

          Bro, if you do not elaborate you are doing a disservice to men everywhere.

          And we need to know, for science.

          [–]alphbux 15 points16 points  (1 child)

          Oh man please elaborate! Maybe even make a post about it?

          [–]pms777 9 points10 points  (0 children)

          Now you need to deliver the story!

          [–]ChildOfTheLostTribes 11 points12 points  (2 children)

          It's like getting pocket aces and flopping two more aces.

          [–]skillspua 10 points11 points  (0 children)

          Happened to my colleague. He was dating a highly sexed lady but he had to travel for business one week. Turns out she couldn't hold it and she went and fucked her ex husband! Eventually she pulls this stunt, he had to go to his doctor who produced a letter saying his sperm count is 0%

          She apologised but he was about to walk away with his freedom!

          [–]fastball21 87 points88 points  (39 children)

          If I were talking to a 20 year old me:

          – skip college.

          – get a low-level, high risk job, such as an oil field or oil rig, seaman on a freight ship... the pay is better than minimum wage but the company houses and feeds you. There's no where to spend your money, and usually it's an all male setting so conversations go unrestrained. Don't blow your wages out of boredom on poker like some do, bring books to read. In two years you can save more than most with a college degree will have by the time they're 30. You can learn a trade on site and move up if you wish, the opposite of college as they pay you to learn.

          – take those savings, buy a house you can afford and move into the basement, renting out the main/2nd floor. After five years of others paying down your mortgage, buy a second house to rent out.

          – self educate by reading and doing yourself. You can get college degrees free with online courses. The internet is like having the library of Alexandria in your living room. Everything about everything is now available to those who seek and wish to learn, the only cost is your time. Google "the library of Alexandria" or whatever should people reference things you don't understand. Self educate as much as possible.

          – don't smoke, take care of your body. Learn half a dozen exercises you can do anywhere without gym equipment.

          – learn one self defence system... best would be boxing... most things start with throwing fists, get that part down first. Just six months in a boxing club will teach you more than what's known by 95% of the population.

          – observe, observe, observe. The truth is always available to those who pay attention, no matter what subject and setting. Learn to recognize the truth when you see it, this becomes easier when the truth is your goal. Learn to trust your intuition/gut feelings... this is your higher consciousness giving you an elbow in the ribs. It knows what it's doing and is never wrong.

          – you are the most important person in your life. do what you want, do what you're interested in doing, do what best serves your long term needs and interests. do this without hurting others... by this I mean no lying, stealing, killing, destroying. You will hurt other people's feelings and they will hurt yours... c'est la vie, this is inevitable. Do not relinquish control of your life in order to placate someone else's feelings, you will end up with nothing. You can't change the world, but change yourself and the world changes with you. Take care of yourself first, always.

          – learn the complete lyrics to one song you like, and sing it for yourself in the shower.

          – the means are the end

          – remain curious, the world and universe are far deeper and more beautiful than you can imagine. the RP of gender relations is not the only RP that exists... it's one of many pills, and others are far larger in size.

          – everything I've said here is important to me, none of it may be important to you. I'm only a street sign, you decide which direction you wish to follow.

          [–]awzeemo 35 points36 points  (29 children)

          – skip college.

          As a chemical engineering student, I'll be making +90k/yr working for oil (avrg is 70k/yr for this major). Instead of skip, go somewhere affordable & do engineering - you will be hired anywhere doing anything if you're good at it, the degree is credibility.

          [–]Entrefut 22 points23 points  (3 children)

          Engineering is just the hardest most intelligent work there is. And the degree proves you have the willpower and the interest to do it. STEM degrees are the only degrees I'd bother with. Maybe accounting as well. But the number of people who get general business degrees scares me.

          [–]aslan4 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Business degrees are generally worthless withouth experience and that's why you need to have summer jobs/internships in order to have a chance to be successful right after college. Apart from that it's an awesome area with serious opportunities

          [–]TimeAndDisregard 19 points20 points  (2 children)

          It seriously saddens me how many people on TRP say that college is a waste. You'll get out of it what you put in. If you go to a diploma mill, or study some bullshit degree, then that's a waste. If you go to a school that's worthwhile and work hard to get a good degree, your life will be insurmountably better than all the plebs who thought they'd game the system. "I'll be earning money these four years while you morons are learning aaahahah! Nevermind that you'll be doubling my salary for the rest of your life."

          [–]1independentmale 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          YMMV. I skipped college and went right into the work force. After 4 years, when my peers were just graduating with little to no real life work experience, I already had a solid resume with a great list of accomplishments and positive feedback from my employer.

          I used that to get into a higher paying job with a tuition benefit, then went back to college on the company's dime. Finished my BS in 3 years and the entire $50k+ bill for my education was paid by my employer.

          Downside, I pulled 90+ hour weeks for those 3 years both working and going to college full time. Upside, graduated with no debt and have much more money in my pocket.

          [–]Daldrath 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Truth.

          Source: I Lived with four roommates in college and three of them were engineering students. They all have sick jobs and make over 60k.

          Edit: IDK why I'm letting my ego take over here but I just wanted to edit in that any major can be successful; sometimes I think there is a bit of a circlejerk when it comes to STEM fields. I didn't get hired straight out of school but within a few weeks I found a job making the same amount of money, even more if I include my bonus, and I majored in English.

          [–]uvajay 2 points3 points  (4 children)

          I started in chemical engineering, and sometimes I wish I stuck with it. I switched to chemistry and ended up going to pharmacy school. I owned my own pharmacy for about 3 years, and sold it to CVS. Sometimes I regret that, but they did pay me a lot for it. My no-compete clause expires this year and I may take everything out of storage and do it again. There's nothing like being your own boss. It's worth a pay cut, but it probably will be a raise if you're good at what you do.

          Though, I wouldn't really recommend pharmacy to anyone now. I got in at the tail end of the "shortage" and managed to make the most of it. The market is now oversaturated, the schools are still churning out new graduates, and I hear salaries are starting to fall.

          Engineering is the way to go. If I were 18 now, I would only go to college for engineering. If I couldn't hack that, I wouldn't waste time on english, history, or other bullshit. Pick up a trade like welding and take it to an oil rig instead. College is definitely worthwhile if you can put the work in towards something sensible.

          [–]PlebDestroyer 3 points4 points  (2 children)

          What if you see yourself becoming a millionaire by 30 through going to college?

          [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil 101 points102 points  (19 children)

          I really appreciate this discussion. The systematic destruction of male spaces has robbed younger men of this opportunity.

          [–]MUTHAFATHAGENTLEMAN 32 points33 points  (18 children)

          I've been racking my brain as to how I could create a men's club today. I can't think of anything that's not sports watching related.

          My grandfather was part of the In and Out club, here in London, after the war. They were business men and held parties and events, but mostly they just had a club house where they'd all hang out all the time.

          Young guys would join the clubs, which was a huge honor, and they would be mentored and advise by all kinds of men who had already "done it".

          EDIT: This may be totally off, but I have a hunch that this male space lost membership due to women's SMV increasing. Young men aren't as interested in going to a men's club to hang out and have meaningful conversations, they want to go to a night club and try to pick up chicks.

          We have words like "sausage fest" to describe hanging out with men, with no women around. (and they have a negative connotation)

          [–]the_suit_salute 25 points26 points  (4 children)

          I know this may not be well accepted on Reddit, but this is basically what a fraternity is; at least while you are still in college. Post-grad there does seem to be a void as far as filling this niche for men however.

          [–]martypete 14 points15 points  (3 children)

          This is 100% correct. Unfortunately, many beta men here who missed out on the experience will show disdain for fraternities, out of jealousy in my opinion.

          [–]davidmoore0 7 points8 points  (2 children)

          I was in a fraternity. I got in. I just don't like sports, I already pick up chicks without putting huge amounts of effort in to throw large parties, and I don't have extra hours to go to meetings or do emotionless philanthropy or hang out all the time. I like doing me things and things with my close friends and women--and that extra cash savings really helped me maximize my Eurotrip.

          [–]TooMuchToDoo 4 points5 points  (1 child)

          and the dues-- my GOD! I was paying $1000 per semester. I'd rather invest the money now and find a different group of guys to kick it with.

          [–]neolithicera 12 points13 points  (1 child)

          Sports like rugby still have this mentality, its one reason I'm so drawn to the game.

          [–]needless_pickup_line 20 points21 points  (0 children)

          A hooligan's game played by gentlemen.

          [–]Stormhammer 9 points10 points  (2 children)

          I may be in a minority, but I can't but help feel entertainment perpetuated the idea of going out partying and trying to get laid. Movies and music ( e.g. hip hop ).

          [–]letsstartaflamewar 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          there's an interesting org in australia called the mens shed org that seems to be working well.. It promotes a space for both younger and older men to bond in a workshop environment.

          more info here: http://www.mensshed.org/home/.aspx

          [–]abdada 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          Power tools gymnasium instead of free weights gymnasium.

          [–]RedHeimdall 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Young men aren't as interested in going to a men's club to hang out and have meaningful conversations, they want to go to a night club and try to pick up chicks

          Yeah most guys are so thirsty for pussy. Either they're in a relationship, in which case the girl prevents them from having guy time, or they're single and desperate for pussy, so it seems like a waste to spend any free time in a place where there are no chicks.

          [–]Squeezymypenisy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Meet over hobbies? Find a group of guys with common interests.

          [–]2RedPillSafe 94 points95 points  (13 children)

          I'm 53.

          First you have to think of the Austin Powers movies.

          Back in the 1970's it really was "Free Love". Back then Feminism had not had much influence yet and having random sex was considered a thing to do just for the heck of it.

          By the 1990's the "Players" started to get "richer" and the ordinary guy got "poorer" in the sexual selection sense.

          So before the 1990's the 20/80 rule didn't really exist yet.

          You could be a sort of hippie nerd and go to a Grateful Dead concert and drop acid and the girls were equally as drugged up and anything could happen.


          When the Feminists finally convinced the women to only ride the carousel with just the top 20% that's when things got harder. Later the younger guys who had missed the "Free Love" days started getting older without success and so it's actually harder on young men now than on the older crowd.

          One difference is that in the older times there were still some people faithful to the older Patriarchy even though all the laws changed already. So overall things were better as far as female quality.

          I state the obvious that female quality has continued downhill. Hardcore slutty behavior was unusual back in the 1970's and 1980's as there was still an agreement that monogamy was the rule even though technically the Patriarchy was already gone.

          Red Pill is very important for young people today because you are the most abused by the new situation if you are brainwashed into this Blue Pill stuff.

          At least us old folks have all had plenty of sex in the past.


          Over those years I do remember on occasion a really "shit testing" Feminist popping up here and there, but I didn't understand until now how it was part of an overall Cultural Marxism and not just a few nasty females.

          So you could feel something was changing, but before Red Pill I didn't have the depth to understand exactly what the underlying cause was.

          [–]tossing_cockrings 37 points38 points  (8 children)

          I'm exactly your age and agree 110%. Female quality has gone downhill...A LOT.

          [–]MUTHAFATHAGENTLEMAN 9 points10 points  (6 children)

          I've never heard that. Can you explain a little more?

          [–]tossing_cockrings 59 points60 points  (5 children)

          I link the decline in American female quality to the rise of hedonistic "slut culture". Tattoos, piercings, extreme narcissism. Much of that is concurrent to the rise in technologies like mobile phones and social networking/dating over the internet. It's become way too easy to shop for the bigger and better deal.

          [–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 21 points22 points  (0 children)

          Indeed. For women, social media is as much "sexual window shopping" as it is a "ego-boost dispenser".

          [–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 28 points29 points  (0 children)

          Hear, hear. This gentleman needs a beer, STAT.

          [–]franklyforthright 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          After 21 at least in Canada they turn sour and bitchy

          [–]abdada 112 points113 points  (95 children)

          40 year old for another few months here. Divorced once, very short, fast marriage with a woman who was 2+ points higher on the SMV scale during the marriage, and is now 5 points lower.

          1. Start your business before graduating high school. Yes, you can incorporate. I incorporated my first business in my teens in the late 80s. Just do it. Start a business bank account.

          2. Never fuck up your credit score. Ever. You don't need anything that you can't afford to pay off next month.

          3. Never cosign a loan for anyone. Not family, not friends, not your wife.

          4. Never tell anyone how much you earn, how much money you have in the bank, or where you bank. Tape a piece of vinyl across your credit or debit card so no one knows.

          5. If she means something to you, call her by her first name and make her call you by your first name. Don't accept "honey" or "sweetie" or "baby" from a woman (who supposedly loves you) more than she uses your first name.

          6. If you want to try something in bed and she says no to it, bail. She's done it before, and she did it with a guy who is higher SMV than you are. Even if she hates it, a woman who loves you will try it once and then say she doesn't really like it, rather than just say no.

          7. It is better to ask forgiveness than be denied permission in all things in life.

          8. Don't be ashamed of your shortcomings. Chances are, you share them with 20% of the world, and chances are that 5% of those are massively wealthy and will hire your services knowing you're not ashamed of them. For example, Google Jimmy Au.

          9. If it's a flat open surface, it should be bare. Desks, floors, nightstands, tops of TVs. If it's a flat hidden surface, there should only be one item on the surface. Drawers, cabinets, closets. If you need to stack things, you have too much stuff. If you need to clutter open surfaces, you have too much stuff.

          10. Go to a tailor for 1/2 your clothing budget. If your tailored clothes stop fitting, you're getting fat. Stop that.

          [–]DAD_FISTER 28 points29 points  (19 children)

          If it's a flat open surface, it should be bare. Desks, floors, nightstands, tops of TVs. If it's a flat hidden surface, there should only be one item on the surface. Drawers, cabinets, closets. If you need to stack things, you have too much stuff. If you need to clutter open surfaces, you have too much stuff.

          I'm organizing my room this week. Good shit.

          [–]abdada 43 points44 points  (18 children)

          I am a clutter king. I have no OCDs. I actually hired a gay colleague to come and organize my shit once a week. No joke. I even pay for him to fly to my other homes once a quarter and just throw shit out. He doesn't even tell me what he threw out, and I can never figure it out myself.

          A few years ago, he actually showed me what he was throwing out, and I thought it all had value. So he said he would put it all back. He didn't He threw it out. I never knew until he brought it up this past year.

          I just got 6 packages in the mail this week (I didn't pay for them, free shit from suppliers, etc) and I know it's all on my desk right now. And it'll stay there until he comes by and dumps it all. But when it's clean, it's peaceful and I feel in control.

          Sidenote: Want to really change your life? Take off all the doors off of cabinets and closets. Kitchen cabinets open are a mind fuck. Closets without doors are insane. Pantries are life ruining. Try it for a month.

          [–]DAD_FISTER 28 points29 points  (14 children)

          You are probably the coolest person I've talked to in about two months.

          I'm 24 year old college student and all of my current efforts are dedicated to becoming somebody like you.

          Have a good one.

          [–]abdada 52 points53 points  (12 children)

          Lol if you're trolling.

          If not, I had it all in my teen years and early 20s and threw it away on a HB9. Married at 26, separated at 28, not even 2 years. Cost me 7 figures that took me almost a decade to save up. Took over 5 years to recover back to point zero.

          So, no, you don't want to become someone like me. I want you to become someone better than me. Yes, I own multiple homes (no mortgage) and have decent businesses that give me a lifestyle better than 95% of my cohorts. But I could be in the top 0.1% had it not been for that HB9 who shyly approached me in the nightclub that I was an owner of.

          I don't regret it -- I lived to tell the tale, and I hope that other younger guys hear the bullet and dodge it themselves.

          Also, if it has a cord, unplug it when you're done using it. Because it takes time to plug it back in, and chances are if it plugs in, it's a waste of your time.

          [–]DAD_FISTER 8 points9 points  (11 children)

          I'm not trolling.

          I too was dumb enough to get married. Dated a girl for six years, married for nine months. I got so fucking lucky. No Kids, No debt, and I'm only 24. Now I'm at university, getting my shit together and I'm optimistic about what's coming my way.

          Also, if it has a cord, unplug it when you're done using it. Because it takes time to plug it back in, and chances are if it plugs in, it's a waste of your time.

          You're a wisdom spitting machine.

          Edit* I'm divorced now and fucking happy.

          [–]Jf5ve 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          I like the last bit there with the lack of doors. My "closet" was built into te laundry room and have all dress shirts and pants hanging colour coordinated and my "dresser" is a large open shelf, has to be organized again as I've just done laundry.

          [–]DestinationUnkn0wn 11 points12 points  (12 children)

          Just curious, what's wrong with her calling you baby, sweetie etc.?

          [–]abdada 53 points54 points  (11 children)

          I'm not an accredited scientist, but my own social research shows that both women and men tend to use the same nicknames over time, and there's some intimate subconscious connection to previous partners. Again, it's not scientific, but I put my name on it as probably a fact.

          It's why I never respond to a woman who has a cell phone in her hand when she's talking to me. She has to have her eyes on my eyes or there's no conversation. And when she talks to me, she calls me by my name more often than she calls me by a pet name.

          It's such a simple rule but it has some incredible profits. When a woman uses my first name, and is looking at me, I can see if she loves me or just uses me for some weird female status mongering. It's very evident.

          [–]dat_shermstick 14 points15 points  (13 children)

          Never tell anyone how much you earn, how much money you have in the bank, or where you bank. Tape a piece of vinyl across your credit or debit card so no one knows.

          I understand the first two, but why am I secretive about my cards?

          I feel like taping over credit cards would draw more attention than just leaving them as they are. I'm out with a girl, and I pull out my taped-over amex to pay? Weird.

          I'm with you on everything else though.

          [–]abdada 15 points16 points  (12 children)

          Bank names can attract gold diggers. Also, while it is rare for normals, if you have money, dont be surprised that some women will have friends at that bank who accidentally stumble across your info.

          Illegal, yes. Not done? You decide.

          [–]1Dev_on 1 point2 points  (11 children)

          I've seen it. Girl I plated used to have her mom in the finance section at the base. She married a guy by looking up his financial records... Daughter probably did too for many a guy. Was awkward when one of my students ended up marrying her and the rest of the class found out.

          [–]abdada 2 points3 points  (10 children)

          I have dated more than one bank teller in my life. They all deny that they've ever looked up information for a friend, but they all know people who have done it (lol).

          My primary card I use when I am with people is blanked out very discretely. I've had a few women over the years ask me "What kind of card is that" and I just say "a bank card" and carry on.

          I never want anyone knowing how much I make or what I am worth. It isn't anyone's business, period.

          [–]thewaywayhome 1 point2 points  (22 children)

          What type of buisness would you incorporate during highschool?

          [–]abdada 13 points14 points  (21 children)

          What are you good at? It could be anything from lawn mowing services to web design to reselling thrifted goods on eBay, nowadays.

          Incorporate so you learn about tax code and why income should always be corporate.

          [–]Humpty_Humper 1 point2 points  (16 children)

          Please, do tell. Would you suggest one incorporate as a C corp, S corp, or LLC? Single member or with a partner? Would love to hear your thoughts.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

          That's why you incorporate... To learn all that shit. Every class is good. Pick the one that suits your needs.

          [–]paulcarl 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          I'm not an accountant or an attorney but my accountant and my attorney are setting me up with an LLC to start because my company is still pretty young, its revenue is modest, and it's relatively easy to go from LLC to S/C Corp but not the other way around. Edit: forgot to mention that LLC is also cheaper and faster, at least in my state.

          I'd recommend avoiding a partnership unless you spring the cash for airtight contracts - you don't want to go through a 'divorce' with a bad business partner.

          [–]m0onshine 1 point2 points  (3 children)

          This. Learn the tax code. Own nothing, control everything.

          [–]1DowntownSacramento 12 points13 points  (2 children)

          40 y/o mulatto

          What I was told to do: Fuck bitches, get money.

          I was too busy fucking bitches or trying to please them, never made much money...would take days off for a nice piece of ass. If I had known better I would have worked my ass off for money because I would have had access to better bitches. Women are attracted to looks and power. AF/BB(that's the secret of the beta; general financial power from lack of other assets, and a limited supply of alpha males, makes an alpha female available to them).

          I was young, beautiful, and broke. Sure I had women. They weren't worthy of me, and I wasnt worthy of myself. Make your money! Most issues people have living through TRP is asset-less living. You can hire a trainer. You can have plastic surgery. You can have the education, the travel, all of it...if you can pay.

          [–]blandboringusername 11 points12 points  (0 children)

          Lift. Nobody gives a shit that your body fat is low and your cardio is great. It's what they see with their eyes that matters. If you don't lift, with clothes on, which is how women pick the ones they want, you will look identical to a sedentary chain smoking emo kid who happens to be skinny.

          Probably I would try to gently steer my younger self away from nerdy pastimes to more athletic ones. Young nerdy guys who don't lift are usually stuck with fat ladies and older ladies.

          Also start saving and investing as much money as you can as soon as you can. You don't need anything fancy, just some big dumb index funds. That alone can change your life. Your forties will be on you so fast you won't believe it.

          I did eventually do these things, but I was older than I should have been.

          [–]tossing_cockrings 46 points47 points  (12 children)

          1) Never get married.

          2) Double check #1.

          3) Did I mention never get married?

          4) Don't waste money on sports/luxury cars. Unless you are a professional driver or in the business, these things are simply a pose. If I had saved all the money I blew on over-the-top cars between the ages of 18 and 40, I'd have another $500,000 right now...not including accumulated interest/dividends/capital gains.

          5) Do not buy a house unless you intend to stay put for a long time. Save money and wait for a real estate crash/recession. Don't buy based on interest rates, always consider the price of the house first.

          6) Never get married.

          7) Don't ever fuck with the IRS. I can't stress this enough.

          8) If you work in a corporate environment, DO NOT TRUST ANYONE. Even though you may think some of your coworkers as friends, they will absolutely stab you in the back if it is in their best interest to do so. No one is your real friend, so do not engage in gossip. ASSUME ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING YOU MAY TELL IN CONFIDENCE TO A COWORKER WHO YOU CONSIDER A FRIEND WILL BE CERTAIN TO GET PASSED ON.

          [–]blackyisthedog 6 points7 points  (4 children)

          A lot of stuff unsaid, but what happened with the IRS. Hopefully is is resolved. Do you think the housing market is going down, looks like we are headed to a recession....scary actually.

          [–]tossing_cockrings 23 points24 points  (1 child)

          Back in 1990, I did some programming contract work on the side. That year was especially good and I earned about $250,000. One of my clients sent me a 1099 (for about $40,000) a little late and I had already filed my return...so I said fuck it. I figured what were the odds of the IRS figuring it out?

          Turns out the odds were exactly 100%. About 3 years later I received a TCMP audit notice and a bill for back taxes, interest and penalties for about $22,000. They also did me the additional favor of notifying the state of California (where I resided at the time) about my little oversight. I received a similar bill from the state. Out of that $40,000 I ended up keeping about $7,000 and consider myself lucky.

          [–]tossing_cockrings 9 points10 points  (1 child)

          The current housing market is being propped up by the Fed's hot air. While it may not be an extreme bubble like 2006-2007, it is certainly overpriced, and persistently low interest rates which are also rigged by the Fed are slowly building up risk. There will be a big kaboom sometime down the road...I don't know when. But I can assure you that you will have an opportunity to buy homes much cheaper if you are patient.

          [–]Noculum 2 points3 points  (4 children)

          Even as a car enthusiast, it feels really odd to drop more than $20000 on a car. It's a means of transport and not a lot more.

          [–]17 Endorsed ContributorWhisper 52 points53 points  (24 children)

          Change:

          • More direct and aggressive with women.
          • Less polite and more confrontational in general.
          • Lift more earlier.
          • Steroids earlier.
          • No stupid high-rep bodybuilder lifts for small muscles. Squats, deads, bench, press, pullups.
          • Engineering major earlier.
          • Sever all contact with fucked up abusive parents earlier.
          • Less student loans if possible.
          • Dating smart women is okay. Dating women who pride themselves on their intelligence, bad move.
          • Dump any woman who won't swallow.
          • Assemble a cadre of male friends who have your back.
          • Don't be too open with people. Don't tell people things about yourself just because they are true. If it doesn't make you look good, shut up about it.

          Keep:

          • Don't get married.
          • Don't have kids.
          • Don't fuck crazy or stupid. No, not even if she is that fucking hot.
          • Don't buy into religion. They want you obedient. They do not have your best interests at heart.
          • $$$ major (engineering/math/medicine/law) or no college. Pick one.
          • Always bail on a relationship if the sex slows down. This is a sign of things to come.
          • Never bankroll a woman. A gift, repeated, becomes an obligation.
          • Ditch any friend who will sell you out to please his woman.
          • Don't let yourself cry. If you have to cry, do it behind a locked door and keep that shit to yourself. It will never, ever bring you any good if you are over the age of eight or so.
          • When shopping for an LTR, it's easier to turn a 6/goodgirl into an 8/goodgirl than it is to turn an 8/ho into an 8/goodgirl.
          • If she'll cheat with you, she'll cheat on you.

          [–]AlphamaxCouture 4 points5 points  (2 children)

          Steroids are one of the best decisions of my life. The feeling of running 15x your natty levels is just incredible. My success with women has trebled since I started blasting and cruising.

          [–]JaredTheGreat 2 points3 points  (12 children)

          I have a math degree and just graduated; what the hell can i get a job doing?

          [–]FleetingWish 4 points5 points  (1 child)

          You could be an actuary. There's a lot of hard math tests, but overall it's a low stress profession that can make a lot of money.

          Edit: also with a higher level degree you could be a mathematician or a statistician.

          [–]JaredTheGreat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Taking Exam P this Friday, but I haven't studied much since I recently moved and started a job (albeit not paying what I want)

          [–]aslan4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Banks pay math grads handsomely for algorythms. Apart from that I dont know much

          [–]Arbitrage84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          literally anything. Math is the gateway to all the top jobs in this world. He who knows the equation gets the cash.

          [–]fresno500 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          ARe you kidding? A math degree is GOLDEN. IF you can get an advance degree in math and your future is set. A plate of mine's son (24) is getting his PHD in math and he has interest from NASA and other 3 letter govt entities.

          You can't go wrong with a advanced math degree.

          [–]Zorc_the_Pork 10 points11 points  (0 children)

          I am late 40's

          Different:

          • Rock Climbed a bit more in my 20's, back when I could still do 30 chin-ups, and hike in/out ten miles without thinking about it.
          • Been a bit more selective in what I did in college. I did a Div 1 sport, STEM major, Fraternity, and Rock Climbed. In retrospect I would have cut out the fraternity, I had a great time partying, but now I only hang out with a few of these people from the Frat, and I have never gotten any business contacts or job opportunities out of my Fraternity. In fact many of them were pretty rude to me in my 20's. Now that I am pretty darn successful they are hovering around me and trying to re-establish contact.
          • I would have NEVER moved in with an LTR. It just doesn't work for me, I like a lot of "alone time" and space. I love being able to hang out after the gym and read, not to have to entertain anyone. Not to have to talk about her day at work, and all of her "check this out" conversations. When I go over to her space, or she to mine, then we can have those types of conversations. 3-4 days per week with LTRs seems to be the sweet spot with me, enough to keep the nuts empty but not enough to bore me.
          • Most LTRs will try to beta-fy you. I lost a great LTR in my early 30's because I let myself go beta. See my next comment as to why - she claimed she "liked me big".
          • I had a traveling sales job for around six years in my early 30's. I would have been much more disciplined with my diet and exercise. I gained 8 pounds / year during that job, I ended up chubby with a lot of muscle, but most of that mass was fat.
          • I wish I studied more programing / database structures. Those jobs are everywhere around here. I know two people who work for a major NAMED firm and make even more than I do, and they are younger.

          Same:

          • Never get married.
          • Have kids out-of-wedlock.
          • Support those kids, set up college funds (yay 'Murica!)
          • STEM fields rock, I make around $175,000 now. In fact, I could have easily have done my job ten year's ago, but many employers still think experience is better than ability and talent. But the Baby Boomers are starting to retire, so our time to make money is here gang.
          • Traveled extensively after college. I got paid by the Government to travel in my 20's.
          • Gone on an exchange program during college. The cost at my school was the same - except for the plane ticket. It was a great deal.
          • Worked summer jobs in / around your college town. Take the hard-to-get or difficult college classes during summer. Take two - three classes with as close to a full time job as possible. Rent is WAY cheaper during summer, and you will build independence being away from home / family. I did this every summer except my first during school. These summer courses also helped my to do my Div 1 sport/ keep my GPA up.
          • Keep fit. Obviously. Body + $$ speaks volumes in your 40's.

          I have to disagree with some of the posters / commenters that are around my age.

          My old man told me back in my 20's to be patient with women. Find the right one to settle down with. He told me to wait until at least 35. He then told me his "secret". Guy's sex lives are vastly better in their late 30's and 40's if their SMV is high. Women are desperate once they hit their early 30's. Play the game, say the right things, and in my old man's words words - get three different women to let you CIM in one day, just for giggles, and seeing who is the champ.

          GETTING LAID IN YOUR 40's is WAY easier than even college! I was a Div 1 sport guy, in a Frat in college, and I did fine! I will admit I struggled a bit in my late 20's, early 30's - but mostly because I was in LTR's and refused to let girls lock me down. But your 40's - IF YOU ARE FIT / high SMV - is off the chain! People are trying to constantly "set me up with a good girl" and "trying to get me hitched". Play the game and you will be hip deep in it! I have dated so many girls 28 - 40, it is not even funny. Girls are so desperate it is like shooting fish in a barrel. Just keep that stick wrapped or get your vasectomy. It probably helps that I like in a major metropolitan area, but my old man did it and he lived in the suburbs. You can afford to be SO CHOOSEY in your 40's. Only date women who you are attracted to or interest you. NEXT the rest of them. In fact, being choosey just boosts your SMV. But be smart, don't fish off the company pier, no matter how tempting it is. I have to admit I have a bit of yellow fever now, and my City is crawling with them, there are so many petite Asian spinners making me wonder why I once was only into blondes / big boobs.

          Just two months ago I had an Asian male friend offer me an arranged marriage with a 30 year old Asian engineer, virgin, who needs a green card to stay in America. She is tall, fair (Northern Chinese), decent body and face, speaks three languages (Cantonese, German, English), and makes six figures. Great marriage potential. For marriage I'd give her an 8. I was really tempted. But then I thought about it - I already have kids. My SMV is higher than when I was in college. What am I going to gain from wifeing her? It is ALL upside for her, all downside me. A guy at work just got worked over in an arranged marriage, his forth by-the-way.

          Stay single.

          [–]Shmoopernator 9 points10 points  (5 children)

          Starting a business is something that's come up several times on the this thread. Any tips or information on how to start one and such?? Much appreciated

          [–]Stormhammer 5 points6 points  (2 children)

          /r/entrepreneur is a start

          http://www.entrepreneur.com/ has a lot of great fantastic resources as well.

          http://www.entrepreneur.com/startingabusiness scroll down till you reach the How-to's section.

          Also the Small Business Administration has a lot of great resources as well

          Best tip I can give is find a niche demograph and cater to it. Helps if you have some sort of vested interest in it.

          -edit- an ex of mine used to call me Shmoop shmoop, and shmoopie. Your username brings back memories.

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            [–]martypete 26 points27 points  (2 children)

            YOU GOTTA START YOUR BUSINESS IN PRE-SCHOOL MAN. YEAH.

            [–]1H42 3 points4 points  (1 child)

            When I was 10 I sold candy in front of the local swimming pool. I did that for a few weeks, until older, thug kids built an enclosed unit on wheels to sell from, and pushed me out of biz by force.

            Its all the same, no matter your age.

            [–]tossing_cockrings 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            That's because we've become the equivalent of a disgruntled college student.

            [–]stemgang 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Most of it is self-evident, but it is nice to have their perspective.

            Feel free to disbelieve it if it seems too much like creative writing to you.

            [–]HeadingRed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Keep in mind it's the kind of 40s\50s age range guy whose on Reddit.

            47 here BTW

            [–]1Padre55 28 points29 points  (5 children)

            Not quite "there" will say this..

            There is a lot, and I do mean a lot, of fun/sex/money to be had in this world. Seriously, it is right there.

            The key is..do not lose yourself once Ms HDB 11 shows up, be all about your business. A 6 am workout is your life, then always always do that 6 am workout..period. Enjoy the journey of course, just make sure your life is YOUR life.

            Want to code and not workout? Great, make sure nothing distracts from that pursuit of mastery of coding, or what have you.

            At the end of the day, you are accountable to one person..yourself..in this world. Never forget that for an instant.

            [–]jolly--roger 11 points12 points  (0 children)

            make sure nothing distracts from that pursuit of mastery of coding, or what have you.

            Nope. NOPE.

            Pursue coding and lift in the process. You can't code 24/7, lift to relax your brain.

            [–]RiseAboveRuin 23 points24 points  (2 children)

            Working out is not optional ಠ_ಠ

            [–]fresno500 9 points10 points  (5 children)

            currently 59. would not get married, get a vasectomy at 18 and get a phd instead on BS in computer science. and without a doubt MGTOW and would enjoy my life and travel extensively.

            [–]JakofClubs 8 points9 points  (1 child)

            I'd add:

            1. Make sure your credits are going to transfer if you plan on switching schools.

            2. Most liberal arts degrees aren't worth it economically and unless you can get a free ride, you'd be better off going into the trades. Liberal arts degrees make you a better, well rounded person, but you can do that by reading.

            [–]scarletspider3 7 points8 points  (1 child)

            spend less time/energy chasing bitches and more time/energy chasing money

            [–]SlimCharles704 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            This right here. Never chase the women. Once you have the money part down, the women will be chasing you.

            [–]svchator 30 points31 points  (11 children)

            56yr here - married / kids. Lifelong RP, but we didn't have a name for it back then. High school / college - many girls. I led companies and was in the trade press. For attracting women - a golden ticket - more than I wanted. Now I'm old but still in great shape. Last man standing - another golden ticket.

            My marriage - ups and downs - bitterness and acceptance. I would not have wanted to miss marriage and kids - even the bitter parts. I know people who went without kids, or have perfect but sterile lives. Some messiness is good - take the pain.

            I have no game, but lots of women. They are important.

            Then again - the women come and go. There is a certain beauty to the ebb and flow.

            Advice #1 - abide with ESL women mostly. MiddleEast, Asia, South America, Eastern Europe - green flag. US / UK / Scandanavia - red flag.

            Advice #2 - invest yourself in family and friends. Treat everyone you fuck like family. Sometimes your family treats you bad but you love them still. Deal with it - lift them up if you can.

            Advice #3 - find work that you really love and commit to it. Make your work and your kids the main thing in life.

            Most important: build a strong mental/spiritual/emotional foundation - you can be OK in any circumstance, good or bad. (that is my game) Find a practice that works for you.

            Feminism is an awful development. RP is a necessary reaction. Stay strong but don't go overboard with it. A bit of sugar helps the medicine go down.

            [–]kamenr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Awesome post. In pretty much the same situation, and I concur entirely.

            [–]Moneybags99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I'm with you on the kids, I may have gotten lucky with mine but I can't imagine not having them in my life. Now the wife is another story, but I guess the kids couldn't have happened without her...

            [–]HonestyReigns 1 point2 points  (3 children)

            Could you elaborate on advice #1?

            [–]TooMuchToDoo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            ESL= "English as a Second Language."

            Women from the green flag countries aren't entitled princesses. Red flag women are.

            [–]svchator 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            Simply - I have experienced more harmony with women who speak english as a second language. Not sure why. Maybe because we talk less?

            With US/UK/Scandanavian women - there is commonly an undertone - a mix of SJW politics, materialism, general dissatisfaction - that makes the relationship more of a transaction and less of a celebration. Always on edge. I feel sorry for them and avoid them.

            [–]WeAreGlidingNow 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            I appreciate all the comments. Nothing really for me to add. But, for anyone considering marriage in the USA, go to YouTube, search for "Family Court", and watch. Hint: the results aren't men relieved that the Family Court system is great. Marriage means you lose your 8th and 13th Amendment rights. Stay Classy, Western civilization.

            EDIT: divorce is when you lose your rights.

            [–]1H42 21 points22 points  (2 children)

            Start your own business. The earlier, the better. Choose something you can grow for +20 years and stay interested.

            Early on, start saving money for retirement, never spend it no matter how tough things are.

            Never marry. Those hos ain't loyal. 'nuff said.

            Take reasonable risks with things that might benefit you.

            [–]JemsMckinley 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            I hope to ultimately own my own business one day but I have no idea where to even begin. I have held the mentality that I can figure it out later once I've finished my education but I know this to be naive. I am currently 23 and will be finished with a business degree by 25. Do you have any advice as to how I could explore ideas or at least move in the right direction?

            [–]JDillla 16 points17 points  (0 children)

            This thread might need to be side-barred

            [–]1grendalor 18 points19 points  (2 children)

            1. Don't get married. Really. That doesn't mean don't have relationships, or even very long LTRs, but don't marry them. Marriage changes the entire dynamic of a relationship away from anything resembling the red pill worldview, regardless of where your relationship started. You can, with a lot of effort, have a red pill marriage, but it isn't worth the effort 99% of the time. The reason is that you can get the "benefits" of marriage in an LTR without actually being married, and dealing with all of the crap that entails. Stay freer, and stay unmarried. I'm more or less happily married, due to a lot of work in trying to steer it RP, but if I had to make the decision again I would skip getting married. If there were an ultimatum issued, I would walk and next her. Just not worth it.

            2. Do not have children. Children are great at times, but they're a huge suck on your time, your money, your freedom, your energy -- basically everything. A large part of your life will revolve around the children if you have them and, on balance, it's not worth it. Net/net you're giving more than you're getting in that deal, believe me. I love my kids, but if I had to do it again, I'd skip having kids.

            3. Never neglect your body. The most important thing in your life is your body. Lift, lift and lift. Get big, stay big. Cut body fat. This is the single most important thing you can do in your life, because it has a ripple effect in every other aspect of your life -- confidence, career success, social success and, yes, sexual success. Don't do it to get chicks. Do it because it improves every single aspect of your life, and in a big way. And don't stop doing it. Do it in your 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, etc. It has to be the core of your life -- your body. If I could go back and do it again, I would have spent much much much more time lifting weights from a young age.

            4. Make lots of money. Whether you do it as a highly skilled professional, or as someone who hustles here and there, do it. Make bank. Save money. Don't spend frivolously on stupid shit like cars or tech toys or expensive vacations and so on. Save money, build your bank, and build wealth. Again, this is for you -- not for chicks (see point 1). You also gain in confidence as you gain financial independence over time by building wealth, so it helps your life overall. I have done a lot of this, but looking back there is more I could have done, and would do, if I could go back and do it again.

            5. Do spend money on good clothes. Don't be the guy who thinks spending money on good clothes is a waste of money. It's one of the best uses of your money possible. And it's great leverage in your life, because so few men do it -- most men look terrible and are dressed terribly. If you aren't, you stand out, and that's key in all aspects of life. It helps your career, it helps your social life, and it helps you with women. Spend money on clothes that fit well, period. Something I would have done differently if I could do it again.

            6. Develop mastery in something unrelated to your work. Master a martial art. Master something working with your hands. Master a musical instrument or photography or something. Develop some mastery in something -- and not something stupid like video games, or something passive like "reading literature" -- something active, something physical and/or creative. This gives you something to do of value, which builds confidence, increases you in the eyes of others, and also expands your social network into more areas. If I could do this again, I would have seriously picked up a mastery hobby younger than I did.

            7. Network like hell. You should be on a first name basis with at least 100 people in real life. Men and women. Build your social network and get to know more people. It helps in so many ways -- professionally, financially, socially, sexually. All of it. Emphasize contacts with people who have velocity in life -- they are the most beneficial. But have the contacts be real as well -- these aren't facebook friends. These are people you know on a first name basis, people you wish happy birthday to, people you speak with periodically and socialize with. In other words, not close friends, but actual friends and not virtual ones. This won't be built overnight, but the process of building it, and the impact of having it in place is huge, and if I had to do things over, I would have focused on building this beginning in my 20s.

            [–]thepillwastaken 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            In my 30s and doing all these things to the T. Nice to read.

            [–]HungryGeorge 18 points19 points  (21 children)

            When I was in my 40's I left the United States and took a job abroad. I have not visited the U.S since 2005. It was the best decision I ever made. Young men, get out of the U.S. as soon as possible. It is not that hard.

            [–]Haufniensis 5 points6 points  (15 children)

            Young men, get out of the U.S. as soon as possible. It is not that hard.

            I feel like it's pretty tough to get out. What suggestions do you have?

            [–]CloakedOrchid 5 points6 points  (6 children)

            Why would it be tough to leave?

            [–]RedHeimdall 1 point2 points  (5 children)

            I've heard it's pretty tough for an American to get a work visa in other first world countries, aside from something incredibly short term, which is not viable for a permanent or long-term move. I'm assuming it's similar to the American H1B visas where a company has to sponsor you with a job and show that you are more qualified than American applicants, and then you are tied to that company. If I'm wrong someone please correct me.

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              [–]HungryGeorge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Yup. The Commonwealth is just as bad as the U.S. if you are dissatisfied with gender games. I can't speak for other European countries, but heck, why bother? Emerging markets are where it's at. I think a lot of guys on this sub would find that the Red Pill mentality isn't really that necessary in many eastern countries. It's easier to find someone you can get along with for LTR purposes in Asian countries, I think. I know literally dozens of American guys who met their wives and settled down happily in Korea or other Asian countries. In some ways, moving east it's the ultimate red pill.

              [–]Tidbitter 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              Late to the thread, but in addition to the great advice aready posted:

              Be honest and reliable. Be true to your word.

              Keep a positive attitude.

              Smile in the face of strife.

              Turn a mistake into a positive lesson-learned.

              Don't rush into things that do not require it. What's perceived as procastination can benefit you in ways that you might not be aware of at the time.

              Disregard other's opinion of you. They won't matter to you in the long run.

              Have mostly rough sex. Don't "make love" like in the Hollywood movies often.

              One last thing (that I will post at this time - so much more to recommend): On not marrying, know that being alone is not the same thing as being lonely.

              [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

              I still would have gotten married but I would have defined very, very clear boundaries and expectations as it comes to money, sex & duties in the home.

              By coming off as open and sharing early in the marriage, I basically told my wife that she has me. That everything I have and will accomplish is hers as well which is fine. It's fine so long as she lives up to her end of the bargain and that means she continues to hold me in a high regard and treat me with respect and not contempt.

              Young men. Do not lose yourself and your mission between her legs. You know who you want to be. Be that man within your marriage or you will regret it.

              [–]tyofwa 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              I’m 41 this month. If a time machine enabled me to talk with my 20-YO self, here is my advice:

              1. Accomplish shit. Remember that 1st computer you built in 1993 and the day it took to figure out your SLIP/PPP settings to surf the internet from your modem? More of that. Remember all those cool ideas you had which would use technology to make the world a better place and you a lot of money? GO DO THEM. FAIL. DO SOME MORE. FAIL SOME MORE. Then you will succeed.

              2. Build your circle. Friends, colleagues, classmates… Cultivate your circles with positive people. Cull the negative ones. Don’t bale on your network when you land a girlfriend.

              3. Don’t get into LTRs until late 20’s at the EARLIEST. I was in a “relationship” from 15-21. What I thought was the best thing in my life was really shielding both of us from the growth we should’ve experienced.

              4. Marriage – ONLY IF YOU WANT KIDS!!! If so, not until you are 30 and can confidently state the following:

                I have marked at least 25% of the items off my bucket list

                I like who I am when I’m alone for long periods of time

                I have a great “circle”

                I have exciting and productive goals

                I am accomplishing my goals

                My mate will enter MY frame; I will not enter hers

              5. Watch “Wall Street”. Notable quotes from Gordon Gekko – “I don't throw darts at a board. I bet on sure things. Read Sun-tzu, The Art of War. Every battle is won before it is ever fought.” And “If you need a friend, get a dog”

              6. Nobody gives a shit. Maybe mom, but she cant do much. Rent due and cant pay? TOUGH SHIT. Car needs a transmission? Time to fix that bitch yourself. Stayed up too late and want to call in sick? Man the fuck up. Your boss doesn’t care. Get up each day assuming you just moved to a new town and no one cares if you live or die. If you get any support from your circle, consider it an unexpected bonus.

              [–]chrisindub 12 points13 points  (4 children)

              If I had it to do all over again.....

              My only regret is wasting time on girls who were less intelligent and of poor character.

              By exclusively approaching and pursuing more intelligent and successful women, you learn more, become smarter yourself, and sharpen your techniques.

              Chasing dumb, unsuccessful, and much younger women is easy and a waste of time.

              [–]fhghg 5 points6 points  (1 child)

              Nothing. You can't tell that idiot anything. He won't listen.

              [–]dbtng 28 points29 points  (24 children)

              Yeah, this won't get many upvotes.

              I'd have married K instead of continuing the search for the some perfect girl. She was beautiful, intelligent, educated, career-oriented, fun, respected me, had no interest in children, open to threesomes, liked anal, and demanded nothing from me. I wanted some strange, so I dumped her. I've been looking for that combination since then. My bad, bad mistake.

              At least a hundred notches in my condom since K; never satisfied, always moving on. Lotsa bitches, couple angels, none of them worth my time.

              Mmmhmm. I fucked up.

              [–]blacwidonsfw 31 points32 points  (6 children)

              Do you think your attachment to her is more to the idea?

              [–]sinkmyteethin 6 points7 points  (3 children)

              Probably, but sometimes it works like that

              [–]Entrefut 7 points8 points  (7 children)

              It's shit like this that scares me. There could be girls out there that pass on the bs, but I doubt I'd know one even if she was right in front of me my entire life.

              [–]epUser 2 points3 points  (4 children)

              One of the most repeated things in this sub is to have abundance mentality.

              If one appeared others will as long as you you are the man.

              Or that's what I believe, anyway.

              [–]topapito 23 points24 points  (23 children)

              Ok guys. 51 here. Been married 6 times. Will easily marry again and jumping into an LTR as we speak. Here's why.

              1- Leave the states. Choose a tax friendly country

              2- Never, ever, ever, and I mean never, share your money making knowledge. Make your money, structure your companies so YOU are poor.

              3- Never let anyone know where your money comes from. NO ONE

              4- Never buy a house if you marry, NEVER, if you want to own a house, open a corp and use it to buy the house and always have a rental agreement. Never outright own the corp that owns your stuff.

              5- Never own anything on paper

              6- Never, wait no, I mean NEVER, EVER borrow money. If you have to borrow money to get it, you can't afford it. Fuck your credit score. No, don't mortgage your house either.

              7- Even if you live in a country with decent tax rates, keep any money you accumulate in another country. Your residency and your cash shall never meet.

              8- Have more than one business. However small, but with steady monthly incomes. Steady incomes being key. A car wash netting you 2k a month is better than nothing. Ten of them is better than 1.

              9- Always own an offshore company. Bearer bonds are your friend

              10- Work with private banks. 'NUFF SAID

              These 10 points should have you in tip top shape for when your LTR craps out. Give them nothing they haven't earned. Get a pre-nup, or not, if you own nothing on paper, you've got nothing.

              This locks up your lifestyle and allows you to live in a mansion and drive a ferrari, none of it yours and if done right, completely bullet proof.

              Oh, and do not live in the US. Get citizenship in a tax beneficial country and resign US citizenship if you want to really have freedom.

              EDIT: Formatting and stuffs

              [–]FvckinPhfatBody 8 points9 points  (9 children)

              Please make a post or even a red pill AMA to elaborate on this in detail. I actually don't really see any greatness in being a wage slave whether it be engineer or oil rig king, etc at any point in life. I know you said not talk about how you make money, but we're not some thirteenth scally wag would be wife or a competitor so you have nothing ti fear. We'd really appreciate it.

              [–]topapito 6 points7 points  (5 children)

              Thanks! You think there would be enough demand for an AMA? If you think so, I'm game...

              [–]reyggg 6 points7 points  (4 children)

              This would be good advice for millionaires and entrepreneurs, but idk how helpful it is to average 20 year olds.

              [–]topapito 7 points8 points  (2 children)

              There's no age limits for entrepeneurship. A 20 yr old could be one. And really, you'd be surprised at how useful it would be for a twenty year old to begin to think along these lines in order to plan his future.

              Too late for someone who already has earned and reported his money. In order to be safe, you have to plan for this before you are worth anything of substance.

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                [–]StopItRick 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                I would not make myself so available to women. If I wanted to spend time with someone I would make time. If they called last minute I would drop what I was doing and take them out. I learned that most American women don't like that, there is no challenge and that usually doesn't work for them. So I wouldn't return calls on weekend or so anything unless we had plans prior.

                [–]kjvlv 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                I have great kids so if I had done things differently, perhaps the would not be in my life so, doing things differently is out.

                I would advise males to not get married. It is a shitty deal for the man and is getting shittier.

                Going forward, I am changing the direction of my life. if my spouse wants to then fine. if not, adios. I will not live out my adult life being treated as the doofus dad on a sitcom. My life is for living, just like my wife's and my dream is not to endless try and make her dreams come true.

                [–]HeadingRed 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                1. I would never have let my GF move in with me. (and I did that 3 more times including now in my late 40's).

                2. Never had started smoking.

                3. I thought being active and not getting fat was good enough. Now in physical therapy. Exercise men, exercise.

                4. Done a better job of keeping my mouth shut.

                5. Would not associate with criminals\sketchy people. Goes for 24\7 wake-n-bake types as well.

                6. Would have spent more time with my family (grandparents, mother, etc.) and less partying with the people I don't talk to at all any more.

                Looking back I missed on sex, romance and even love by hesitating or "being nice". Kiss that girl, tell you you want her- not just as a friend. If you think she might be interested but you're not sure don't wait. I cannot believe the amount of sex I probably passed up, and have had two women who I adored in my early 20's tell me later they really wanted me to ask them out.

                My good moves- did not get married, did not have kids. Never got fat, not a drunk\druggie.

                [–]anon1821 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Point no6 is fantastic and i agree

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                  [–]imaRPman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  I wanted to raise a kid and that has been a very rich part of my life, no regrets. Not having a kid would be denying a big part of being a provider and man.

                  Have a career that will reward you $$ and make you satisfied with your life.

                  Partner selection - find a smart, funny hard working women if you want a LTR or mother of your child.

                  Always be a leader and do not let anyone deny you that position in your own life.