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[–]2RedPill4LYF 21 points22 points  (0 children)

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This is why I tell all my red pill disciples to quickly notice every flaw in a woman. This helps reduce her ability to influence you with her sexuality. This is good for newbies learning game cause it helps them ignore her beauty, allowing them to engage her like anyone else.

[–]Beltox2pointO 141 points142 points  (24 children)

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We're attracred to beauty and youth because they are the best women to carry our seed and continue our blood line. Attractive women have always.made men nervous / act beta for many millennium before TV l.

[–]Human_Isomer 28 points29 points  (2 children)

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You think it is some sort of evolutionary thing where the most attractive women were attached to the strongest man; therefore there is this wariness when it comes to attractive women, because an outsider man has to be stronger and more fit to get the more attractive women from the "strongest" man. So naturally we experience this AA/ cautiousness when it comes to approaching women especially attractive women; which is why we experience this fight or flight reaction just before approach. Just a theory

[–]Beltox2pointO 10 points11 points  (0 children)

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I see the validity of tgis assumption. We view the young and attractive women as high value and thus our perception is that they will already have a high value male or they have many asking to be with them.

So merely approaching them and talking to them is literally testing our maniless. In our own minds if they reject us we aren't as high value as other men.

As most would agree here, you don't need to be most alpha man ever, just the most in the room or her perceivable area.

[–]Endorsed ContributorpuaSenator 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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To this day, I still have never been able to understand how many people on TRP keep preaching the whole, "Treat attractive women just like ugly women - Don't let her looks influence how you behave around her."

I just can't get behind the idea. I've tried many times, but I've NEVER been able to have it stick. What I can do is simply not let her have any attractive chick privilege, but when it comes to my demenor and behavior, it'll NEVER be like I'm hanging out with an ugly chick. It's fucking genetic, I can't control it. Attractive women naturally are more entertaining whom I do find more sexual value in. I can't magically make that vanish of sheer will alone.

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (1 child)

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Agreed. It has nothing to do with programming. That said, it is good to act unfazed

[–]Lilcheeks 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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Well, the programming as he put it probably contributes, but that's an effect of the cause.

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    [–]16 Endorsed Contributorss_camaro 10 points11 points  (0 children)

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    opens social doors

    For example: the upper-echelons of the chihuahua appreciation club.

    [–]Beltox2pointO 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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    Indeed it does. Also commands a certain respect with friends / work colleagues.

    [–]AdmiralVonJackass 9 points10 points  (1 child)

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    Wouldn't a muscular beast woman be the most capable of successfully carrying a child?

    Why are we attracted to skinny, ultra feminine women? They would have zere additional utility from an evolutionary perspective.

    [–]Mintaka7 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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    How easy was for a woman 50,000 years ago to become a muscular beast? What helped women survive was exactly the housewife stereotype: submissive, feminine, and nurturing.

    Coincidentally those are the traits that were passed on and attact us.

    [–]rapmachinenodiggidy 5 points6 points  (11 children)

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    Except, a big sturdy strong woman is better to carry seed than a petite Hotty

    [–]Beltox2pointO 14 points15 points  (6 children)

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    Youth means less problems with the pregnancy, ages increases risk. Beautiful assumes better looking children, better looking = healthy. Also more like to continue your line again.

    [–]Aaron565 4 points5 points  (2 children)

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    Also smarter, more successful, etc. Studies show that humans have an overwhelming ability to only see the good sides (and assume more positive traits) in attractive people.

    Why? Because they are attractive.

    [–]Casanova-Quinn 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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    It's called the Halo Effect.

    [–]autowikibot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    Halo effect:


    The halo effect is a cognitive bias in which an observer's overall impression of a person influences the observer's feelings and thoughts about that person's character. It was named by psychologist Edward Thorndike in reference to a person being perceived as having a halo. Subsequent researchers have studied it in relation to attractiveness and its bearing on the judicial and educational systems.

    Image i - Edward Thorndike, the first researcher to study the halo effect


    Interesting: Heiligenschein | The Halo Effect (business book) | Clockwork Angels Tour

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    [–]rapmachinenodiggidy 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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    im not taslking about youth though, im talking about someone who can pump out kids, work right up to 9 months and need very little recovery time. not only being a mother but also not being found wanting when it comes to working out in the fields

    [–]Beltox2pointO 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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    Your ideals are different to mine. I'd rather have a woman as a house keeper / stay at home mother. Who prepares meals everyday and does all the laundry / dishes etc.

    [–]rapmachinenodiggidy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    yes but i was addressing the original point of who is better to carry on seed, being in a position to keep a woman as a house keeper doesnt really apply

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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    wrong

    [–]xTerraH 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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    Dunno about that.

    [–]rapmachinenodiggidy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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    well it depends do you want a mother in the home who can manage maybe 3 kids or someone who can pump out 10 AND put in a 12 hour shift in the fields comes harvest time?

    [–]xTerraH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    But that wasn't your original question at all?!

    [–]ddhuud -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

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    No. We might use the same word to describe them (in this case "attractive") but it has different meanings across cultures and even ethnicities within a single culture. I would say attractiveness it's quite subjective.

    [–]Beltox2pointO 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    I personally don't know of any culture that doesn't idolize / prefer youth and beauty in women, their standards for beauty may change (extended neck, Lip elongation etc) But young women are always the most valuable.

    [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil 46 points47 points  (13 children)

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    I dont know about you guys but around a really ugly woman, im always realy nice because I feel bad for them. Do you realy want to make an ugly girl cry?

    [–]wishIcared 43 points44 points  (0 children)

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    I'm the biggest gentleman around girls I have no sexual attraction for. I treat the ones I like like shit.

    [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (3 children)

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    Im also nice because they don't possess any female traits that I dislike. They are often very modest and quite often smart. They have no privilege. They're often loyal and compassionate.

    The problem is when they get good looking they lose all of these traits.

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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    The problem is when they get good looking they lose all of these traits.

    The trick is getting the ugly ducklings before society endows upon them the feelings of privilege; formerly fat people can be some of the best people you'll ever meet.

    [–]robesta 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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    Or when one guy validates her. I'm convinced a lot of these fat girls with crazy high self images were validated by a guy who wanted to fuck her and skewed her self image.

    [–]legauge 13 points14 points  (2 children)

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    Do you realy want to make an ugly girl cry?

    That's a loaded question. Some people get stiffies when girls cry.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    That's a loaded question. Some people get stiffies when girls cry.

    Why do you think there's so many fat sub girls in the world of BDSM

    [–]redpillshadow 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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    That is a strange form of white knighting. Pity knighting?

    [–]monsieurhire2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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    I try to be nice to everyone I meet, but for some reason, the more consensus attractive a woman is, the higher the likelihood that she'll act like a cunt at some point. The problem seems to be that they interpret every act as a possible come-on. This then causes you to be less friendly to them because you're anticipating social slights. A sign of an attractive woman with character is that they accept unwanted social and sexual advances gracefully and sympathetically. Another problem that arises with being nice to girls you aren't attracted to is that they get their hopes up, and then get mad when they get dashed.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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    I wouldn't care.

    [–]Papercarder 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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    much alpha

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    taste musk

    [–]Endorsed ContributorRedSunBlue 89 points90 points  (2 children)

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    I don't zero shits about grammar.

    If you want to be taken seriously, you should give some shits about proper presentation. The benefits of looking good are not limited to the mating game.

    [–]SinFordGreen 21 points22 points  (1 child)

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    Yea, christ on a fucking bike. I stopped reading halfway through just cause it was so painful. I'm pretty sure everything you mentioned is in The Game anyway chief.

    [–]mrsmithwenttotown 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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    same. Yea The Game does talk about ugly chicks, nothing new here. Downvoted

    [–]strangestdude 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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    the reason we act likes betas around sexy bitches is because we have been programed to . magazines , PORN , TELEVISION , ads, and society all tell us subconsciously that HOT women have some sort of value and must chase them.

    Warren Farrell makes the same argument in his book italics why men are the way they are italics. He argues it's natural to be attracted to women with symmetrical features and a good BMI, but the non-fiction and fiction media puts these women on a pedestal, and in turn men put them on a pedestal.

    Patrice O Neal said his 'Clark Kent to Superman' mindset happened due to taking trips to Brazil and buying hookers. And once he had regularly fucked gorgeous hookers he lost fear of beautiful women.

    [–]adamwho 10 points11 points  (2 children)

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    There is a country song from decades ago with a line "If you want to live happy for the rest of your life, marry yourself an ugly wife."

    Wow it is was actually Harry Belafonte.

    I guess he didn't follow his advice....

    [–]through_a_ways 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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    They all get ugly after a good while.

    [–]OneWonderfulFish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    No, it's not country. It was by a guy named Jimmy Soul.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NF5XU-k2Vk

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Soul

    Very fond memories of hearing this song on the radio and singing it with my dad, bros, and friends, to raucous laughter.

    [–]CrazyForYouToo 6 points7 points  (8 children)

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    So true. I have a 4 young ladies that are 6's - 7 at best. My "butter face" girls. Each one has a great little body and her pesonality is super - "but her face" - not so great.

    For now, this is what I need. I don't want/need a wife or LTR. I should be focused on work ($$ for retirement) and not falling "in love" horse shit with a girl that's an 8 or better (even if - like the butter face girls - she would be okay with me seeing other plates). Those days were gone years ago - and damn glad they are.

    Of course I'll penetrate a 9 - 10, but I won't waste my time pursuing them more than 5 minutes.

    [–]MrsStrom 8 points9 points  (7 children)

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    As a former 9, you should pursue 9s. Truly beautiful women don't get approached often. Most of us have no idea how hot we are. I'm still an age adjusted 9, but 30+ yo me just can't compete with 21 yo me. The only man willing to hit on me, other than my husband, is the autistic guy that I see at the grocery store.

    [–]hurricaneivan117 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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    Truly beautiful women don't get approached often. Most of us have no idea how hot we are

    I call BS

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    There is some truth in this. In my most beta days I had a 9 extremely interested in me. I didn't realize until later. I was quite desirable looking but had an overloaded beta personality to go with it. I still pinch myself when I look back at how ridiculous I was acting.

    [–]AdmiralVonJackass 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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    The funny thing is, some 6s and 7s will put me completely on blast, and in the next breath an 8+ will be smiling ear to ear and fondling my arms with laser beam eye contact.

    [–]MrsStrom 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    8+ don't get as much attention. So any attention we get is good! And even better for you guys if she was an ugly duckling. I was on Ritalin as a kid, do I was very thin, but tall and extremely uncoordinated. It didn't occur to me as a teenager that I could have dated any boy that I wanted.

    [–]CrazyForYouToo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    I agree with you, my point is, that I would probably fall for that 9 and would feel the need to be monogomous - which isn't going to happen for a while. Now, if that 9 was truley open to me having other partners (like the Butter Face girls are), that would be a different story. It could happen. I'm a patient man. Maybe it will one day.

    [–]HitlersCow 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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    I think, as a 9, you don't even notice the guys that do. Or they're creepy.

    A lot of women don't realize the power and passes they have afforded by their vagina. Radar doesn't even register some of the guys that approach them. Some people are just really friendly and love buying your lunch twice a week, right?

    [–]MrsStrom -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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    You're probably right. I probably don't notice most of the attention I get. I don't get a ton of attention,that I notice. Though my mother thinks going grocery shopping with me is hilarious and points out the men that are checking out my ass. So while men rarely hit on me, I probably do get looks. Really, the only men that talk to me are really old guys, think 70s and 80s. And I'll spend 45 minutes chatting them up in the grocery store.

    [–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (10 children)

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    I don't zero shits about grammar.

    Or proper sentence structure.

    But this was good, all in all.

    [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (9 children)

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    that's what grammar is...

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (8 children)

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    I realized after I wrote it xD. Insomnia will do that to ya.

    I don't wanna delete it though.

    [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (7 children)

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    Ha. I know the feeling. Went 36 hours without sleep last week, I couldn't have told u my middle name by the end.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

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    jeez. I can't even go more than 24 hours. I start falling asleep. Fuckin my head just, starts falling off my body and I have to hold it up. I try to stay up but its useless. I'm trying and trying, and Oh! Look at that, I'm asleep.

    Willpower is key but... there's a point when exhaustion just overrides all your willpower.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

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    That's the point where Adderall comes into play

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

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    I have been looking for that. Can never fucking it any!!!

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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    Not to be a presumtuous cock here, but have you thought about treating your insomnia first? Adderall is a strong as fuck drug and have many downsides. Don't open a can of worms that can't be closed.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    I have tried to "cure" my insomnia. I fuckin hate it. I just lie in bed, hours and hours on end. Can't sleep. I fucking especially hate seeing the sky change color through my curtains when I'm still trying to catch my first winks of sleep.

    I really, really, don't give a shit about curing it anymore.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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    Get a script, its actually easy. Look up consultation centers in your area, ask for an adhd consultation. Look up the symptoms beforehand (I actually have it so it was easy for me). They just ask you some questions and they'll give you a perscription

    [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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    Yes, let's make it even harder for people to take ADHD seriously by giving everyone and their grandma Adderall.

    [–]1sailorJery 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    The substance of what you're saying make you sound like you know what you're talking about but you present yourself like a homeless person with your grammar.

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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    http://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/

    number 10.

    Good post man. If something has been talked about on Heartiste its definitely worth listening to.

    [–]tabber87 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    I don't zero shits about grammar.

    We knew that.

    [–]p5ych0naut 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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    I support TRP, but you sir, are fucking stupid. Beauty absolutely has value, that's why beautiful women can find someone to fuck them no matter what, and ugly women have difficulty getting laid at all. Its also why pretty prostitutes are more expensive than skanky ones.

    Yes, society programs us to be beta, but the way to be alpha isn't to "treat hot girls like you treat ugly girls," but to "stop being a fucking pussy." Fact is, its guys like you that are NOT alpha. The value you place on yourself is directly related to the attractiveness of the girls you hook up with or the difficulty of the conquest. You know what that kind of behavior sounds like? Like a fucking girl. Stop being a little emotional bitch and just go after the pussy you want. If you get turned down, so the fuck what? Its not because you are too nice, its because SHE DOESN"T LIKE YOU.

    Fucking idiots, like this guy, ruin TRP culture for the rest of us, making TRPers looks misogynistic and shallow.

    BTW, the reason celebrities, rockstars, rappers, etc get girls is because they have MONEY. Not because they "know how to treat women." You see, women value WEALTH, or, the ability to provide for offspring, whereas men value things like a pretty face (good genetics), big boobs, curvy waist, all the things that would make a good mother to offspring.

    [–]charlesbukowksi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    I don't zero shits about grammar.

    read a book

    [–]thekidfromthegutter 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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    all I'm saying is that ugly girls need love and sex too.

    [–]awsum_possum -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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    And I'm all about giving it to them.

    [–]bam2_89 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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    Attraction is not the result of programming. Attraction is biological and culture further entrenches our biological tendencies. Societies in which fat is attractive are those in which it was necessary and even in those societies, it was within reason. That's why Tumblr hamplanets will not be attractive no matter how much they demand we think that they are.

    I'm also not sure about the claim that anyone can fuck an ugly chick. In my experience, attractive women are easier because less attractive ones are used to not being the center of attention. When you ignore a hot chick, she starts approval-seeking.

    [–]through_a_ways -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

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    Attraction is not the result of programming.

    In men, no. In women, very much so.

    [–]1Hyooge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    Agreed, but there is a difference between good looking and bad looking girls. Typical higher confidence in hotter girls (not necessarily self-esteem) can be quite standoffish because they know another attractive man could approach them in 20 minutes. This means you have to have some mandatory attributes before you even get talking to the girl, but you're right that the principles don't change.

    [–]that_nagger_guy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    Good point, I've though of all this before too but the way you write just makes me think you're like 16 years old or something.

    [–]rocketskates84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    Your message is a little garbled by your delivery, but overall I agree. Taking note on how we treat and behave around the sub-5 segment of the female population is huge in terms of developing inner game.

    /$0.02

    [–]AVeryMadFish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    I like seeing practical advice like this here instead of the typical vague stuff.

    [–]redpillshadow -4 points-3 points  (14 children)

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    Doesn't work for me. I detest ugly women, I don't want to be near them, I don't want to talk to them, I don't want to see them.

    Say I enter a room with 2 mates and 2 whales. I certainly do not become THAT GUY. I have no interest in them at all. I have no interest in displaying any kind of value. I have no interest in socializing with my friends in that room but a rather large interest in getting my friends out of there. I will be visibly annoyed that the whales are there.

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      [–]xaphody 5 points6 points  (2 children)

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      As a male that was obese in his youth and turned out to be the "ugly duckling" in my adult years I can confirm the difference is social interaction that I now receive.

      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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      This and exactly this, I can always (well almost, Tumblr kinda gives some girls feeling they can behave like cunts despite the fact that they do not posses looks for it to fly) have a civil and interesting discussion that I don't have to lead. 7/10s and above are fucking impossible, they expect you to lead everything, they just sit back and enjoy the ride. I'm sick of this lately, I met some pre-wall girls (and they knew what will happen after the wall) and it was almost funny to see them to try to put a sentence together not sounding like not-so-smart college girl.

      [–]zakkarius 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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      That's just mean bro

      [–]esco_ 14 points15 points  (0 children)

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      seems like you let fat girls bother you more than they should

      [–]funnyjean[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

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      well buddy their is no difference between those whales and hot women. treat hot women the same , give zero fucks , be a man and get laid.

      [–]redpillshadow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      happy hunting captain Ahab, happy hunting.

      [–]EnchantedDildoQueen 5 points6 points  (2 children)

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      You're gonna throw a brooding pissy-fit over the mere presence of an unattractive person a person you are not attracted to? You need to support your mates. Help them with their shit tests and what not.

      [–]redpillshadow -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

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      That is a strawman dildoqueen. We are talking about straight up ugly people.

      [–]EnchantedDildoQueen -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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      Yeah... that just makes you an asshole.

      [–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      That sounds like a bit much, but I feel a certain level of disgust when truly fat women hit on me. I know I can't be the only one.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      Haha, love everything about this post.

      [–]mossbergman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      side note: that women in the picture CAN FUCKING SING!

      [–]watersign -1 points0 points  (1 child)

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      yup..guys who get girls tend to not have any respect for the women they defile..its the troof

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      umm.. what?

      Mate, you wouldn't cover yourself up in shit now, would you? Guys who get girls tend to respect them to a certain degree. Beyond a certain point, if her behavior is outlandish, it warrants the man putting her back in place.

      Theredpill isn't a bunch of evil men, wishing a plague upon the houses of women. I mean, there are some of those guys here [lol] but we all have our extremes.

      Take this opportunity is life to find yourself a middle ground. Don't be useless and start writing things off like "guys who get girls tend not to respect them."

      Frame, alpha behavior, and mindset. Its all interconnected. It doesn't mean uncivilized.

      [–]borderrat -5 points-4 points  (3 children)

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      Stop calling women bitches, OP. It reveals your naturally beta personality.

      [–]2asd1100 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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      stop policing language it reveals your naturally bitchy personality.

      [–]borderrat -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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      Another beta speaks up, pretending to know women and the world. Poor TRP. Such a great concept but frequented by weak and embittered misogynists who can't make it in the real world.

      [–]colovick -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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      I address most women as hooker... They tend to like it if they're interested at all... I'm pretty sure curbing language is frowned upon here, but I'll say that I don't think you should call a woman a slut for sleeping with you... It's pretty much saying that she has to be slutty or desperate to sleep with you... It makes you look weak

      [–]snoodleflap -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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      BUT nobody want to fuck an ugly chick.

      not true. i want to fuck as many women as humanly possible.

      [–]MegMartinson -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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      Susan Boyle, subject of the ugly photo in the cited link, cleans up just fine.

      https://www.google.com/search?q=susan+boyle+makeover+before+and+after&client=ubuntu&hs=owB&channel=fs&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=y0wvU6vqGM3boATS94B4&ved=0CCYQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=1008

      Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. She does have redeeming qualities.

      Remember too: beauty is skin deep, but ugly goes all the way to the bone.