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    [–]johnniegreen 32 points33 points  (7 children)

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    Sometimes I'll be accused of being shallow because I am attracted to fit girls.

    Ask your accuser if she's into black/asian guys (pick one you know she won't like). When she responds with the inevitable "I'm not racist, they're just not my preference", simply state that your lack of attraction to lardballs is exactly the same.

    Since, in the minds of these idiots, being fat is something that you can't help, it's completely identical to being of another skin colour. Both are simply traits you're born with. Watching these muppets trying to come up with a reason why their preference is ok while yours is not is priceless.

    EDIT: It can be fun to frame your inability to find fat people attractive as if it's a great source of shame, and that you regret it a lot. A slow shake of the head, mournful expression, maybe even a sigh, as if to say "I wish I could be a better person, and that I wasn't so shallow, but these hideous, grotesque, fat shambling turds repulse me at a cellular level. Such is my torment."

    [–]d3gu 13 points14 points  (2 children)

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    "I'm not racist, they're just not my preference", simply state that your lack of attraction to lardballs is exactly the same.

    Yes! I hate reading those articles proclaiming that 'men who don't like fat girls is as bad as racism'. No. It. Is. Not. Skin colour/race = born with, weight = lifestyle.

    [–]sway_usa 12 points13 points  (1 child)

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    Or if they would date a short guy. That will spin the hamster wheel into orbit.

    [–]fortwaltonbleach 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    totally. i used to (and i hope to hell that i won't ever anymore) sit though these astrohamster arguments. i should have walked. the pill was blue and so were the balls.

    [–]whoops_fap 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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    Since, in the minds of these idiots, being fat is something that you can't help

    Because this fits perfectly in line with the idea that women are always victims. "I'm not fat! I can't help it! It's genetics/medicine/hormones/etc!"

    [–]Adams1991 14 points15 points  (0 children)

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    If they say you are shallow because you like a trait that women have control over tell them to go fuck themselves.

    Women turn down men all the time for being too short, or because they are going bald, or are too hairy and most people see that as fine. Those traits men have NO control over, but still get the shit end of the stick because of it.

    Pursue fit girls. They earned it. You earned it.

    [–]MooMooMooN 34 points35 points  (0 children)

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    "Why do you always only go for fit chicks?"

    "Can you do more than 20 cocksquats before complaining?"

    "..."

    "Exxxxactly!

    [–]d3gu 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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    I go for slim men because I know their lifestyle will be compatible with mine: at least slightly active, interesting and full of good, tasty, healthy food. Not sitting on my arse eating pizza in front of the tv (which I do occasionally do - just not every night).

    [–]DocObvious_ 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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    I said something along the lines of "i prefer skinny girls" in a room full of women with "curves" (they're all friends of mine.), and men who apparently like their women fatter. I don't care, do what you like, but they all scoffed and laughed at me because I don't like "real women". One of the guys even said "oh, so you mean men?". He was joking, we're actually good friends, but I think a part of him was serious. He likes "curvy" women too.

    It's that word "curvy" that gets misused by fat women everywhere. "I'm not fat, I'm curvy.". Bitch, you're 300 pounds. You're fat.

    [–]MasonJarTeaDrinker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    Yea there is really curvy petite girls, that's what I mean when I say I like them curvy. Fat chicks just like to use that shit to make it okay that they are fat.

    [–]djrawbeats 130 points131 points  (34 children)

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    I think women who say they're happy with being fat are just liars. I think deep down all fat women are extremely unhappy with their weight. They just find way to rationalize that being fat is OK. They really just don't want to face the fact that they are not happy. Because maybe then, she'll actually have to work hard to lose weight.

    [–]LineOfCoke 66 points67 points  (1 child)

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    as a at guy I have to say honestly that human beings can carve out contentment from dog shit. Starving kids in Africa find reasons to smile.

    [–]spitenl 42 points43 points  (11 children)

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    Guaranteed if you told them to take a magical pill and they would become thin, they'd do it, regardless of how "happy" they are now.

    What they are now isn't happy, it's complacent.

    [–]d3gu 18 points19 points  (7 children)

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    My dad (a GP) has told me that people get annoyed with him when he tells them that, to lose weight, they need to eat less and exercise more. He said he thinks they assume he's got a magic solution to weight loss. There isn't one! The only way to lose weight is to consume less calories than you expend. It's like expecting to save money when you spend more than you earn.

    [–]TaylorWolf 6 points7 points  (5 children)

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    Most of the time they really don't have to eat less if they just go absolutely ham with exercise...

    Unless they are eating shit like cake and donuts. Just cut that shit out and you could eat twice as much chicken breast or Greek yogurt as cake to fill the void.

    [–]UnderwearStain 18 points19 points  (2 children)

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    The math of exercise as a weight loss strategy without diet works out poorly for beginners tho. It's inefficient time wise. For at least the first 6 months of training you don't have the muscular endurance or lungs to negate much more than a bag of chips or 1 soda on the treadmill.

    Most large people I see at the gym aren't dialing the tread past 5 mph and it's flat the whole time not inclined. If they make it a full 30 mins (most don't ) its a mix of 2 and 4 mph At most they've got 150 cals burnt. It's much more efficient to forgo the soda than to work it off.

    Then you can make the exercise about its benefits. Cardio can be focused on endurance. Weights can be about strength and appearance of particular muscle groups,

    [–]d3gu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    Yup, I found that cutting out/down on liquid calories (booze, fruit juice etc) really helped. I drank water and green tea, and if I was out I'd have a gin & diet tonic, and I noticed the difference almost immediately.

    Greek yoghurt is a good one, too. I started making coleslaw with plain yoghurt instead of mayo, and it was just as nice :)

    [–]thedarkerside 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    It's about lifestyle choices. People are focussing on the wrong thing: Being fat / overweight isn't the problem, it's the symptom. Taking the stairs instead of the escalator, walking instead of driving etc. will often already help a lot. But that's not really what people want to hear either. They're lazy and want to stay lazy, that's the real crux. I still get strange looks from people when i tell them what area around my house I consider "walkable" or "bikeable".

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    I think part of the reason people assume doctors have a magic solution to weight loss is because we see so many impressive pharmacological solutions to serious health problems, say cancer, we assume that "Hell if they can figure out how to reprogram a virus to deliver a payload that fights HIV, surely they can figure out how to make my body ignore that pie"

    And the thing is, they're kind of right, there are dozens of pharmacological solutions to obesity, but they mostly all have the same problem - Your average joe is too stupid to use them responsibly, and they get banned. DHT being a prime example.

    [–]smile_e_face 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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    Exactly. People simply refuse to face reality. For example, I'm legally blind, and I once had a conversation with another legally blind person who persisted in calling himself "differently-abled," rather than disabled. He insisted, against my fervent objections, that our condition was not an objective physical defect, but rather a different way of experiencing the world. Finally, I got fed up with him and asked, "So, if your doctor came to you and said that they'd just found a cure for your blindness, you'd refuse?" His silence was the only answer I really needed.

    [–]MRAfront 17 points18 points  (1 child)

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    I think women who say they're happy with being fat are just liars. I think deep down all fat women are extremely unhappy with their weight.

    Every former fat chick admit they lied when they said they were happy about it. Go look around forums or here on reddit, not former fat girl wants to be fat again.

    [–]SunAtNight 15 points16 points  (2 children)

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    And that's why I don't care about fat shaming. Any woman who had rationalized that being fat is fine, I don't want. Unless she's actually smart enough to realize on her own that she's disgusting, realizes her mistake and gets into shape.

    In other words, fat is a (large) marker for someone who is poor at decision making, which is not someone you want in your life. If it really happens to be "genetic", it's not something you want to pass on to your children either.

    tl;dr Don't try to make fatties thin. Don't waste time shaming fat.

    [–]Esminia 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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    The problem is that fat shaming is undermining the damage of bullying in schools and in early life altogether. Peoples who are fat get completely bullied because of that, and the family/friends just brush it off by saying "nuuuuh be proud of your curves, fat = beauteehee see this statue of a fat chick see u are a greek goddess" and they grow up their whole life believing it's okay to be fat and that they got bullied by jealousy, and will transmit the same bullshit to their kids.

    [–]culofiesta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    The anti bullying crusade has made it easier to be fat. Just like cutting down on hunting has pushed animal populations until they are unmanageable, now that there are fewer bullies, the fatty population has become unmanageable.

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

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    I think it can go even further than that. I think some big people are that size as it excludes them from having to compete in being attractive. That is why they wear whatever they want to too. They dont feel like they belong to the same competition. Of course it shouldnt feel like a competition but not only does human nature thrive on comparison but our society is increasingly appearance driven. Some people reaction is to just GTFO.

    [–]MrsStrom 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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    Society had always been appearance driven. Corsets weren't invented because they were comfortable. Ancient Egyptians didn't wear make up for the health benefits. People who complain about our society being less than their version of perfect are trying invoke a recollection of some magical past where every thing was fair and wonderful. And if it wasn't for insert group then every thing could be honky dorry again.

    [–]Red_Pill_302[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

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    It the hamster on overdrive

    [–]SunAtNight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    If only a hamster on overdrive meant burning more calories...

    Edit: spelling

    [–]PlanB_pedofile 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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    They rationalize it as "it's genetic, too hard, it's natural, its because im a woman, should love me the way I am, I dont like salad, i love pizza"

    Now some women are the opposite. One gal I know who's a size 0 and proud of it and is pregnant and she felt devastated that she gained 4 pounds and had to upgrade to a size 2. Jeeze it's a kid growing in there, relax. But she's a health nut and also fat shames other women.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    So true. The mental gymnastics that fatties put themselves through are astonishing. I think fat women absolutely should be ridiculed.

    [–]Algermas 206 points207 points  (73 children)

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    I do fatshame women, by not giving any woman over 130 pounds any attention. Also by being an in shape guy, that alone infuriates the fatties.

    [–]insane_psycho 141 points142 points  (1 child)

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    There isn't really any other answer. I don't go out of my way to make fat and unattractive people feel bad but I would never consider fucking one.

    [–]1Jaereth 87 points88 points  (0 children)

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    I don't go out of my way to make fat and unattractive people feel bad but I would never consider fucking one.

    Can I order the bumper sticker?

    [–]Andress1 38 points39 points  (0 children)

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    This^ The worst thing someone can do to you is not hate you,but ignore you.If you dont even pay attention to them you will give them a hard blow,because they will have no influence at all on you.

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      [–]Red_Pill_302[S] 12 points13 points  (17 children)

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      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (11 children)

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      I disagree with the 25 bmi limit, but cool article nonetheless

      http://www.scientificpsychic.com/health/BMI-female.jpg

      [–]whimsicalweasel 3 points4 points  (10 children)

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      I would look downright auschwitzy if I weight this dudes "ideal weight" 106-127? Seriously?!

      [–]MrMagwitch 6 points7 points  (1 child)

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      .

      [–]Red_Pill_302[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      [–]cosmic_meatball 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      I lol'd at "rolls of fertility." Not sure if that was intentional or a typo by the writer.

      [–]1RXRob 9 points10 points  (3 children)

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      I had this exact thing just last year. My mother volunteered me to do some heavy lifting for a neighbour on my only day off. I did it because I liked the (sadly deceased) old dear, and immediately verbally tore my mother a new one and asked why she assumed I'd do a job that she wouldn't.

      [–]Mightyskunk 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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      My wife, a pretty red pill woman, volunteers me to lift heavy things. It's mainly because the whole neighborhood knows I'm ridiculously strong, and it's no effort for me to carry someone's couch up their stairs. For yard work or painting, though, count me out.

      [–]gambitasdf 0 points1 point  (11 children)

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      Wow really? People are upvoting you for being disrespectful to your own mum, and refusing to help out a family friend regardless of the actual task? Worse yet, you were a teenager living and supported by your parents, helping out with their requests would seem only fair. I hope my kids don't turn out like you.

      [–]wellitsajob 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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      He wasn't exactly polite, but he wasn't disrespectful either. He never volunteered his time, so he has all the right in the world to decline. She was disrespectful by volunteering him without informing him. If she had asked first, he wouldn't have felt like his time was so meaningless and maybe he would've been willing to go over.

      I hope you treat you children with respect as much as discipline. They are just as human as you are.

      [–]648262 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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      Your kids will be your robot?

      [–]whoops_fap 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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      I know, right? Everyone knows your kids are YOUR PROPERTY to do with whatever you please! They should know they are indeterminably indebted to their mum and dad until 18, I mean..duh!!

      How dare they show a sense of autonomy or individualism after they were involuntarily conceived by their parents with no say in the matter whatsoever?! Kids these days!!!111

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

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      Umm, she volunteered his services without even having the courtesy to ask him in even the most cursory way.

      That is disrespectful.

      He then respectfully, without recourse to foul language or insult, informed her that he expects to be asked for help, not to have it expected of him.

      Its exactly how i would have handled it, unless i really didn't mind doing the work, in which case i'd have still pulled her up for assuming.

      Just because shes your mother doesn't mean she is immune from having her bad behavior challenged (respectfully), a dynamic that my mother understands well.

      [–]thredditsowaway 27 points28 points  (9 children)

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      While it is hilarious to piss them off, I advocate taking it to the next level: be totally indifferent to their rage. They offer nothing we want, so their opinions of us and our actions are totally irrelevant.

      That said, if I can't OHP her I won't touch her.

      [–]elevul 21 points22 points  (3 children)

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      That said, if I can't OHP her I won't touch her.

      Doesn't that mean that the women you touch become increasingly heavier and fatter?

      [–]thredditsowaway 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      I.... fuck. And at the alarming pace of 5 pounds per week, too.

      [–]aazav 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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      They want attention. Either validation, or at least some disdain, so they can look down at "your type" angrily and with scorn.

      To ignore them is the worst insult to their fattitude.

      [–]tofeelforever 15 points16 points  (7 children)

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      Being ignored is more infuriating than being straight up insulted. And there's no need to go out of your way to insult a fatty. I think it shows an self-esteem issue with the person insulting.

      But 130lb threshold doesn't take tall girls into account, just my two cents on that.

      [–]myrptaway 32 points33 points  (3 children)

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      I like tiny girls because they make my average penis look big ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

      [–]kenatogo 6 points7 points  (2 children)

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      Yeah a beautiful tall girl is gonna be in the 150 range if she is fit.

      [–]Manstack 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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      That deadlifting booty might as well be a 45lb plate.

      [–]tofeelforever 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      Yeah I'm about 5'11 and 155lbs so I had to speak up!

      [–]reddick1 17 points18 points  (1 child)

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      It becomes a problem when they come up and grope your arms and chest and you have to give them an obvious look of disgust.

      [–]duckducklandwhale 16 points17 points  (6 children)

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      Also by being an in shape guy, that alone infuriates the fatties.

      Opposite for me. It seems theyve gotten their heads bigged up because they think that I should/or would be attracted to them. Sorry, but I take care of myself physically and you should too.

      [–]Gami_Lon 7 points8 points  (3 children)

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      Here's an example of that:

      "If you’re not into me, that’s your problem, and you’re going to have to kind of work that out with whatever professionals you’ve hired." - Lena Dunham

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        [–]Gami_Lon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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        Incredible, isn't it? Lena Dunham's self esteem is so high, she thinks that if you aren't attracted to her you should seek help from a professional.

        Just think about that for a second, can you imagine being that confident in how you look?

        [–]neoj8888 13 points14 points  (0 children)

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        They are NOT proud to be fatties. They're justifying it, like they try to justify everything else. The way shaming (fat or otherwise) absolutely shatters them at the tiniest touch is concrete proof.

        [–]CeruleaAzura 5 points6 points  (2 children)

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        What about taller women? My friend is 5'10 and 150lbs but she's very slim and fit.

        [–]McRedMan 83 points84 points  (46 children)

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        As a big guy myself, I embrace fat shaming. For my entire life "JBY" and "ladies love 'Nice Guys'" infected my mind. I thought it was alright, cool even, to be a slobbering fat fuck.

        Ever since I've found TRP, I got my shit together. I've been lifting weights and changed to a keto diet and I've lost ~40#'s (280-240) in the past 6 months. Not to mention I've put on a bit of muscle and am now somewhat attractive to girls (as opposed to a 280# man whale). If the people around me encouraged me to lose the weight (shaming or otherwise) I wouldn't have ballooned up to 280#'s in the first place.

        Ah, good old feminist USA.

        [–]Sturmgeist781 19 points20 points  (8 children)

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        Congrats. Started keto on March 5th and have a huge caloric deficit. Started at 285 to 231 this morning. I've had muscle under fat for years but didn't start dieting seriously until TRP. It's amazing how much a little self control in your diet and working out can do for you.

        Keep up the good work and enjoy your progress.

        [–]LineOfCoke 20 points21 points  (5 children)

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        of course you had muscles under your fat. carrying around near 300lbs you have leg muscles like a fucking ox.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        People always ask how to build calves. Just gain a ton of weight for a year or two and then lose it. Et voila.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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        Preach it brother. Ive been lifting for about 2 years now, barely done a dozen leg days in all that time, and my quads and calves are still noticeably large.

        Why? Because i started at over 300lbs and worked my way down.

        Its also why now that the weight is off my speed athletically speaking is fairly impressive for a larger guy. When i play football, a game i was far too obese to ever consider playing a few years ago, the proper fit lads are always amazed that i can easily catch them. Of course my endurance is still shit haha

        [–]ShitArchonXPR 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Unless, of course, you insist that people give you money for a motor scooter (actual TumblrInAction post-- the guy wasn't disabled, he just didn't want to be "exhausted" by walking around. He believed he would have more energy for activities with a scooter.)

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (11 children)

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        discovered this sub the other day, and I'm now in the process of losing weight. Being short and size 38 waist is disgusting, and for the first time in a long long time i looked in the mirror and saw how i looked.

        18 year bulk ended today :P I just need to sign up for the gym now.

        [–]XXXmormon 2 points3 points  (10 children)

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        Diet is number one for everything, but you can also do bodyweight exercises until you get a gym membership

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (9 children)

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        Any examples that are good?

        [–]roadywan 5 points6 points  (3 children)

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        Go to the longest,steepest trail/hill/street you know of and walk up and down 30 minutes at a time, 3 times a day. Wake up early, go right after work, go before bed time.

        It's free, it's effective.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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        I live in the countryside, and I'm currently off uni until september! Hopefully i can see some good progress before then! :)

        [–]roadywan 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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        Check these sites out as well...

        http://hundredpushups.com/ http://www.twohundredsitups.com/ http://www.twohundredsquats.com/

        Obviously these won't replace a full blown gym but then again they cost you nothing and can be done any place at any time.

        [–]TheD_ 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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        It's an individuals prerogative to be fat. You can believe you are physically beautiful when you're obese. When members of the fat acceptance movement demand I believe obesity is physically attractive, I get peeved. My judgement is my own; wanting other's to manifest your internal image of yourself is narcissism. Get over it. The majority of men will think obesity is physically repulsive.

        [–]JohnGalt316 13 points14 points  (0 children)

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        there is a reason Japan has first world wealth, but still has obesity rates of 0-5%

        [–]RulerZod 17 points18 points  (10 children)

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        I just had a whale message me on tinder today. I said lose some weight, not for dudes but for you. She gave me the "real men" speech lol.

        [–]Dano420 6 points7 points  (4 children)

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        Yeah, but you swiped right on her, didn't you?

        [–]FearlessBurrito 8 points9 points  (3 children)

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        Real men love cardiac bypasses, shitlord.

        [–]1whatsazipper 9 points10 points  (2 children)

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        It's a tragedy. The fewer healthy women, the more competition we face with each other. I'm not going to bone fatties any time soon and neither should you.

        [–]Red_Pill_302[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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        [–]MisterMagorium 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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        Speaking of fatties,

        there's this one fat-ass chick who's in her mid 40s? that has a kid eight years my junior, and pretty much every damn time she comes in the store I work at, she hits on me and calls me "the sexiest man alive" (I am FAR FROM IT) and other shit.

        The ONE time I tried to ignore her, she told my supervisor I was being crabby. I don't have a girlfriend, but everytime she asks, I tell her I do.

        Seconded on not boning fatties.

        [–]LernersLostEmails 24 points25 points  (15 children)

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        It's a horrible trend, but you can't stop it. All you can do is live in defiance of it. Let every whale you see inspire you to work that much harder.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorpuaSenator 42 points43 points  (11 children)

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        The problem is, it's drying up the pool. More fatties = less attractive women = more competition.

        The reason I love Europe so much, besides the nightlife, is because of the women. When just about everyone is either skinny or in shape, a worst case scenario is you land a cutie. In the USA, worse case scenario is you fuck a land whale.

        [–]LibertarianLibertine 14 points15 points  (7 children)

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        I take it that in your Europe, you do not include the UK? ;)

        [–]Endorsed ContributorpuaSenator 11 points12 points  (6 children)

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        Yeah, UK is definitely the exception. Haha I was actually thinking while I typed that out that I hope no one confuses UK with Europe because the UK isn't doing far better than the US.

        I love the Anglo governance/economic model, but it's something about it that also brings in a ton of food and fatties. Just look at it, UK, CA, US, AU, NZ -- All on the top 10 for obesity.

        [–]yumyumgivemesome 7 points8 points  (2 children)

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        AU and NZ too?? I thought the fact that everyone lives near the beach would be enough to keep people in shape. That's a damn shame...

        [–]fictitious_shucks 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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        Fatties everywhere is nz and au

        [–]DegenerateAsshole 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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        Won't be like that for long. It's getting worse and worse every day on this side as well.

        [–]Red_Pill_302[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        [–]spitenl 10 points11 points  (0 children)

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        While grocery shopping the other day I grabbed some sugary cereal as a treat. In the next aisle I walked past a very large woman, and promptly put the cereal back.

        [–]Red_Pill_302[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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        [–]dicklord_airplane 54 points55 points  (5 children)

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        these women exist because so many pathetic guys will still fuck fatties. if all fat women were virgins because no man would deign to touch them, then there would be far fewer fatties on this earth. we need to start holding men more accountable for enabling fat logic. for shame!

        [–]LineOfCoke 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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        the ham planets hide in the shades of gray. See, some guys like women with full figures, and curves, and maybe even a little chub. But completely delusional fat bitches have coopted these concepts to describe their own disgusting bodies. Its complicated by the fact that oneitis beta bitch boys will tell their girls they aren't fat until they drop dead of heart disease and need to be removed from the home with heavy machinery. I like thick bitches yes. i understand that technically 300lbers are thick, but thats not what i fucking mean and you know it!

        [–]aa223 37 points38 points  (51 children)

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        In all honesty, let women be what they want to be. After they realize that they can't land any of those good men because they are fat then they will either exercise which is the logical answer or they will just join the feminism movement which will make them look even worse as a while. So no need for us to stoop so low as to shame a woman for being fat. If they are proud of being fat then let them. Otherwise, enjoy the show.

        [–]SoSaltyDoe 34 points35 points  (28 children)

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        The modern world is essentially full of "I shouldn't have to" sentiments.

        I shouldn't have to slim down and have an attractive body type for people to give me attention.

        I shouldn't have to work this hard for this low of a wage.

        I shouldn't have to put effort into my appearance in order for people to want to get to know me.

        I shouldn't have to change the way I interact with other people to get different results.

        These sentiments are absolutely useless in any practical sense. Well, they used to be...

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          [–]aa223 2 points3 points  (8 children)

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          Like I said if they are proud of being fat then let them be proud. Let life take its course and you will see either those women will realize they have to work hard to attract these good men or they will irrationally blame the men for being shallow when they are also shallow. Otherwise, fat shaming a woman doesn't make us any better than those women who shame us because we are male.

          [–]SoSaltyDoe 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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          Yup. Fat shaming is honestly giving too much of a shit anyway. Who cares if more and more women are okay with being over-weight? Not our problem.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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          It takes more skill to see the sins of HB's... The great thing about fatties is that their sins (gluttony and sloth) can't be hidden or glossed over.

          Fatty can be as proud as she wants. All I see is an undisciplined, self-indulgent porker of low SMV.

          [–]2Marsupian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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          In countries with national healthcare or a similar system you could make a case that everyone has the obligation to his fellow insurers to take care of his health as the medical cost of everyone is paid by the collective (not entirely true but it is to some extend).

          Fat parents have an obligation to their children to give a good example and not put their kids at a disadvantage that early in life.

          I really don't care but I do have less respect for obese people.

          That said I also have my vices, I just have an easier time hiding them.

          [–]Red_Pill_302[S] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

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          It reduces the standards across the dating market because thin attractive women become rarer so they develop bitch shields

          [–]DocObvious_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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          I heard one of these, well I heard them fairly often, but this last time was at the gym. I was talking to my trainer about scheduling for the upcoming two weeks, and a couple girls were in the other side of the room talking to some of the other trainers. They were unhappy about the training. Not because the trainers weren't doing their jobs, but because "I shouldn't have to adjust my schedule to fit yours". I tuned out after that, but when I asked my trainer what they were bitching about, he said they didn't show up for one of their scheduled sessions, so they lost it.

          At the gym I go to, we have to give 24 hours notice if we can't make it to our trainer session, or we still pay for it. This is great because it keeps us accountable and actually motivated to get our asses into the gym for our sessions.

          [–]dldallas 10 points11 points  (0 children)

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          Or some poor beta will end up bux'd with a landwhale wife who will never learn and will pass on her tendencies to her poor, poor, inevitably fat children.

          The hypocrisy of the anti-fat shaming stance is that you are essentially endorsing an eating disorder, just the opposite way people normally think of one.

          This particular webcomic comes to mind

          [–]Magnum256 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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          If they are proud of being fat then let them

          The problem is that their pride is so in-your-face that it becomes intolerable to be around in any capacity.

          Where I work there are a couple of these landwhales in the office. They're both about 5'0, 250lbs+ mid 20s, they both think they're hot shit. Honestly if you talk to them they believe they're 10/10 smoking hot sex objects. They come to work in miniskirts or yoga pants showing off their rolls, they act excessively flirty and have literally no shame. I remember about 6 months back I overheard one of them saying that "every single guy on her Facebook wants to fuck her."

          The problem is that there are enough beta dudes who either have half-decent looks/physique that these fat bitches can find a guy with a nice face or abs who she can use as a doormat and still feel like she's winning at life; there's no "reality check" for these fat women because they tend to still get what they want in life.

          I've seen way more disgusting fat women with reasonably attractive guys than I have seen of the opposite (ugly/fat dudes with smoking hot girls) which I think says something about our society.

          [–]aa223 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          Yeah I agree that pride shoving is a serious problem.

          [–]Red_Pill_302[S] 9 points10 points  (6 children)

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          Obesity effects all of us because it reduces the pool of attractive women and makes a lot of men compete for the few remaining good looking women making those women bitchy

          [–]Venividivixii 10 points11 points  (9 children)

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          Great idea, we should never push each other to be better than we actually are. Let's just create a culture of acceptance.

          Failed all your classes? No problem!

          Too overweight to have children? No problem!

          Shamelessly over-entitled? So is everyone else!

          In the feel-good society, everyone is a winner!

          [–]2Marsupian 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          I agree.

          I also think that as long as there are people who do put in the effort those who don't will find their punishment eventually.

          Shaming those who don't put in effort is more an act of kindness than anything else. Nothing wrong with sitting back and enjoying the fruits of your labor magnified by the low standard set by the under-performing majority.

          Same reason why I don't see the need to reach out to "bluepill" men. Those who take action and look for change will find this place or something similar. No need to force it onto those who don't put in the effort out of some moral notion we should save our fellow men.

          The more bluepill guys out there the better the situation is for me.

          [–]aa223 3 points4 points  (6 children)

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          I never said that. I merely said just let these things run its course and enjoy the show. If a feel good society was easy then there wouldn't be a need for this sub.

          If a girl doesn't want to lose weight to please her man and her man leaves her assuming he also put effort into toning his body and such then it is a girl's fault. I guess I should have worded this better for you.

          Once again, we shouldn't fat shame women randomly on a public forum. They already have shamed themselves by thinking the way they do. If they don't want to be better than they are then they are not worth the effort. Only the strong will survive after all.

          [–]Venividivixii 4 points5 points  (5 children)

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          Some people are unashamed of being fat because they believe it to be socially acceptable. If we as a society accept it, then the problem will never be solved. Being fat is a social problem, and must be handled socially.

          [–]aa223 1 point2 points  (4 children)

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          Well it is being handled socially. Unless you have a fat fetish fat chicks won't get the men they want unless they make healthy lifestyle choices. For all the time we put into fat shaming we could be encouraging one more male to be the best male he can be.

          [–]Venividivixii 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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          For all the time we put into fat shaming we could be encouraging one more male to be the best male he can be.

          You're an idiot. I can do both of these things at the same time.

          [–]aa223 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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          Then do it I'm not going to stop you.

          [–]Anderfail 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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          No. The proper response is to say nothing, let them fail miserably, and cut off all support and enabling systems. You want to fix this shit? Then you literally stop giving a single fuck about their lives.

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            [–]aa223 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Well then they just won't realize it. If those women don't want to look at reality then we shouldn't be dating them that is all.

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              [–]iopq 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              Men keep having sex with fatties, so it's the men's fault. If other men refused having sex with them, almost no woman would be fat except for lesbians.

              [–]FearlessBurrito 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              They can also get a dose of reality when I place them on CPAP for their OSA, but still...

              [–]1bradyo2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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              Good article.

              Fat acceptance is a movement that is getting far too popular for my liking. It's an excuse to be lazy, nothing more. As a former fatty myself, I know that the whole idea of being fat is laziness. Pure and simple. Unless you're in the incredibly small minority who's issues regarding weight are uncontrollable (Prader-Willi syndrome, Hypothyroidism, etc...), then these people need to get off their fat arses and either go for a fucking run or start eating less. Preferably both. It's not hard to be healthy.

              It is truly disgusting.

              As a side note about keeping healthy, the woman who wrote the article is 62, and honestly looks about early 40's. She looks fantastic. It just shows you that with a bit of effort, exercise and a good diet, women don't have to turn into hideous slobs.

              [–]Audiodragon 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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              There is a subreddit called fatlogic where you can find hilarious things about being fat.

              I've come to realise that 'fatlogic' is one part of a typical mindset. What's interesting is how when you see one aspect of the mindset, the other aspects are there too, you just need to give the person some time to show it.

              These are:

              Shifting the blame: 'I'm fat because of my conditions'

              Enforcing passive behaviours: 'I'm fine the way I am, I don't need to change my lifestyle'

              Irrational one-liners: 'Fat is not unhealthy' or '%95 of diets fail'

              Being overly sensitive/aggressive: 'Triggers' about how they felt hurt because someone thinner than them said they felt fat

              Hypocrisy: It's okay to say that someone thin and fit is not attractive at all, but it's not okay to say someone fat is not attractive.

              Procrastination: 'I'll go to the gym tomorrow', 'I will start eating better tomorrow', 'Tomorrow is the day!'

              Now this is the fun part. All of these aspects can more or less be seen in other people too. Bluepill people for instance. The thing is, 'fatlogic' is not just about fat, it should be renamed 'sedantivelogic'. As in, the person refuses everything negative about himself and around him, and creates this shell that allows him to stay in his comfort zone and get either mentally or physically fat.

              And this is a part of trp fight. It's forcing yourself to get out of this shell and to refuse the illusion.

              [–]EggzOverEazy 6 points7 points  (4 children)

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              Shouts to one of my favorite subreddits, /r/fatlogic.

              The excuses and justifications astound me. Worse yet, they encourage younger people to accept being fat, leading them down a path of gross habits that will surely reduce their quality and quantity of life.

              [–]duckducklandwhale 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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              more of these /r/fatpeoplestories, /r/fatpeoplehate, /r/hamplanethatred. I think it's good that some people see that being willfully fat is bad thing. As somewhere who spent time overseas I cant go thru my day without being disgusted at how fat we are in the US.

              [–]Red_Pill_302[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              I saw that article over too

              [–]DanG3 4 points5 points  (2 children)

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              Add me to the club roster. I went to a new martini bar here in town. BOTH of the female bartenders were not less than 350 lbs - EACH!! AND, they have that, "Yeah, I know I'm obnoxious" attitude. What is the owner (reportedly a female) thinking?!!! While I'm sure she is "right up there" with them" ... business is business ... It's a nice place and all, but ... I'll only going back to see if/when they are gone.

              [–]Dante-S 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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              What is the owner (reportedly a female) thinking?!!!

              You answered your own question before you even finished asking it.

              [–]DanG3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              It's called a "rhetorical question."

              [–]MRAfront 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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              I hate when they use anorexia into fat issue, today's people are not walking around with anorexia, they ignore the elephant in the room, most people living in first world countries don't ladt 20 minutes without food in their mouths.

              [–]slkrk 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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              I stare shamelessly at tat fitties. I fear I am part of the problem.

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                [–]run_naked 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                Right on! Being fat isn't ok. I visited an old buddy yesterday and he stopped his diet regime and started settling for some fat chick. It was obvious he gained more weight. And he started that bs with me how being fat is ok. As a woman, I went crazy on him. Just even busted out the porn, asking him. Does he prefer that or this. It was a two hour thing of shaming. I hope he goes back on his diet. I even tried to convince him he's dating a self diluted whore that wants his money anyways. Sigh. And I tried to introduce him to r/redpill ...hopefully he will see the light.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                Its ok for them to be fat. Apparently.

                But if you pay attention closely you'll notice its not in the least bit ok for you to be fat.

                [–]Synthtwo 4 points5 points  (2 children)

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                As a previously overweight male, the fat shaming should extend to both genders.

                Being fat is a choice. It's also a choice you can recognize you've made years before actually hitting "fat" status.

                The only thing keeping people fat is sloth and ignorance.

                [–]PlanB_pedofile 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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                After seeing so many fat fucks my age, I went total nuclear on myself to get into keto and dropped 40 pounds. Also working around models, I see so many other male photographers let themselves go. I didnt want to be another fat fuck they shoot with. I lost weight to stand out from my peers.

                [–]Synthtwo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                Good work, now keep at it and become the chiseled motherfucker you deserve to see when you look in a mirror.

                [–]awfuljokes 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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                Skinny women run the world since fat chicks don't run!

                [–]Sir_Fancy_Pants 11 points12 points  (4 children)

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                Its unbecoming to shame anyone in public for anything unless its genuinely a socially or moral a repugnant thing to do (like shitting in the street) or that impacts others ( littering )

                People should be free to dress/eat/exercise as little or as much as they like without strangers making knowingly rude and thoughtless comments to them (its just basic decency)

                That said you don't have to ever justify your preference or what you find beautiful, if you don't find appealing anyone over 90lb or 100lb or 150lb thats entirely your business and right to, no one should tell you, that you must align your preferences or desires to fit in with what they want.

                If you dont like fat people thats fine, if you love fat people thats fine too, but in either case public uninvited direct criticism or comment is rude and unpleasant.

                Beware anyone who tells or tries to get others to "shame"

                [–]Meglomaniac 5 points6 points  (2 children)

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                The thing that the article actually makes clear is that she isnt talking about "thick" or "pleasantly plump" girls. I find them attractive with a bit of meat and curves. Where they have a nice set of tits, nice round butt, but also they are not fat as fuck either.

                Those women are "voluptuous" as I would refer to them. Not fatasses.

                [–]Sir_Fancy_Pants 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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                It genuinely doesn't matter, other peoples bodies are absolutely your right to find attractive or disgusting however and for whatever reason you wish.

                However how you conduct yourself in public, and what you say or do does matter.

                If i found someone incredibly ugly facially i wouldn't tell them because it would hurt their feelings, i would say nothing.

                Decorum and concern for others is a good thing

                [–]Meglomaniac 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                I just thought I would laugh at this.

                I have a character called chesterfield fancypantz in eve. Funny Coincidence.

                [–]Red_Pill_302[S] 7 points8 points  (5 children)

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                Obesity screwes up the market because it make normal women more valuable https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2007/11/07/fat-american-women-dating-disparity/

                [–]1Jaereth 6 points7 points  (4 children)

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                I agree. Travel to Germany or Italy, where they are all skinny. You can pull beautiful girls as effortlessly as you could pull a whale here.

                [–]1 Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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                Travel to Germany or Italy, where they are all skinny.

                You've obviously not been to my city...

                [–]lloopy 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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                I don't like skinny.

                But fat isn't hot. There's thick (/r/thick) and curvy (/r/curvy) but fat, not so much.

                [–]Dreamtrain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                now THAT is what curvy really means, convex tits, hips and ass, concave waist

                [–]symko 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                The only people that should be proud of fatties are mattress salesmen.

                [–]mctoasterson 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                Women and people in general easily become complacent and stop trying. It's sad but true. Up your own game and improve yourself is the only option. Maybe you will inspire someone else to finally get fed up with their own slovenly state and get on a treadmill.

                [–]FallenHighSchoolJock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                I'll tell you why. It's because an obese, bed ridden, 3/10 whale can have an army of male models at her doorstep with a snap of her fingers. Would you have any motivation to keep fit if that was your life?

                [–]d3gu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                I'm not saying that overweight people should be shunned/insulted, but I just don't understand how people can be proud of being fat.

                I've always been quite slim, but because of health issues recently I've put on about 10 pounds. My BMI is still 'normal', but I feel uncomfortable in myself. How can it be comfortable to be overweight? I'd feel trapped.

                I personally would not date an overweight man, for many reasons. However, if my SO put on weight I wouldn't necessarily break up with them, but try to encourage them to get their act together. My boyfriend and I are trying to be healthier at the moment, so I've bought a bunch of awesome diet recipe books & have started cooking those for us, and making a lot so we can have healthy packed lunches during the week :)

                [–]BrutalCunt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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                I like BBW babes and I live TRP.

                [–]Gami_Lon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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                In the 1950s women stayed skinny to land a husband. In 2014 women aren't in a big rush to get a husband, so they're not in a big rush to diet.

                This isn't rocket science.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                culture of declining standards.

                [–]DianaDewAsmr 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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                There is nothing that hurts more than your SO telling you you put on some ass.

                But at the same time it's extremely effective so if you notice your woman getting some weight tell her!!! Tiptoeing around it to avoid hurting feelings will make us hamster around the fact that "he loves me anyway".

                [–]run_naked 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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                As a woman I actually appreciate it when a man gets the balls the tell me im fat. I hate being fat and I work alot. Sometimes I dont notice I gained 20 and need a good kick in the ass.

                [–]DianaDewAsmr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                Same here! I tend to put it ALL on my butt and it may sound stupid but... it's in the back so it's a tad harder for me to notice and much easier to ignore it.

                Talking from an attraction point of view if a man tells me I put on weight at first I may not like it but I tend to see him in a better light after that. His words to me mean "I like you more fit/I am not afraid to tell you the truth/I don't need to kiss your ass to keep you around" aside that I appreciate if a person worries about me.

                [–]ADDvanced 4 points5 points  (7 children)

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                Fat shaming isn't right. Encouraging people to work out, be active, and getting in shape is what's needed. Being a dick doesn't improve the world at all.

                [–]DanG3 11 points12 points  (6 children)

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                Have you ever tried to tell a whale to eat right and work out? You might as well spit into the wind.

                [–]anonlymouse 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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                Shaming them stresses them out, and stress is associated with weight gain. If you insult them about being fat, they'll retreat and eat a tub of ice cream to feel better. All that sugar is an instant validation like watching porn is.

                So if you like fucking blobs of fat, shame on, you'll have more than you ever dreamed of to hang on to.

                [–]cooledcannon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                You are right. I hate fatties but shaming is a horrible way to go about it.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

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                This isn't really an issue, it's completely overblown by the media and the internet. Very few people are like this in real life. And you wouldn't want to fuck them even if they were skinny.

                Then again I don't live in a shithole area.

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

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                I can tell you, I live in California. It really is like this. Summertime is eyebleach time

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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                I'm not saying fat people don't exist. I'm saying the phenomenon of people who are "proud to be fat" is overblown. It seems like there are a lot of them because of the few of them who are loud about it on the internet. Most fat people are ashamed of their bodies, like they should be.

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                I know what you're saying. What I'm saying is the "proud to be fat" people are actually very common where I live. Booty shorts, crop tops, bikini tops, lyrcra, It's every day. I'm happy you live in an area without all that.

                [–]Three_Tracks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                I recently stumbled upon r/fatlogic and r/fatpeoplestories

                It is awesome I recommend

                [–]tadrbt2 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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                Not me ... I'm a chubby chaser.

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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                Usually, is being fat just an isolated problem, or the tip of an iceberg of problems?

                Why would someone allow themselves to become very overweight considering the various consequences and disadvantages? Are they using the pleasure of food to compensate for psychological problems, like an addict who is unable to stop? At the very least, not giving a fuck about harming themselves via obesity seems like a sign of other problems.

                [–]iopq 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                Because it's accepted, so they don't care. Cultures where there is a lot of discrimination against fat people like Japan tend to be very thin.

                [–]Flareprime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                I shame some of my male fat buddies, just like they tease me when I get too skinny. We agree with each other rather than get defensive.

                I don't shame fat women because I don't want to go to jail or get fired or something. Just don't pay any attention to them.

                "Merely" overweight I feel I have to accept, otherwise there goes 99% of the sex pool

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                It's easier to say you are happy and healthy than actually be it.