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[–]RejectionEquality 47 points48 points  (5 children)

Women don't want this to be okay, even though it is.

My primary plate got extremely turned on when I had a girl in her early 20s salivating over me. She just won't admit it publicly.

[–]14io8 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Marlo: You want it to be one way.

Security Guard: Man, I don't...

Marlo: You want it to be one way.

Security Guard: Man, STOP! Stop, sayin' that.

Marlo: But it's the other way.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PwuckTkE7T4

[–]2asd1100 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Never stop going for hotter chicks.

Uglier chicks breed insecurity(is he really going to dump me for that?), hotter chicks make you look like a catch(damn, that is one hot piece of ass, I'd better step up my game!).

[–]reiduh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was dating this petite blonde a few years ago, mid-twenties, and we were talking about nothing in particular – when all of a sudden she blurts out "If we ever have a threesome I get to pick the girl and she's going to be tiny, like that one over there..."

Jawdrop, smile, and cannot to this day remember what we were talking about beforehand. Unfortunately, crazy didn't work out too well for her =(

[–]Nespos 246 points247 points  (27 children)

The use of the word "fetish" to try to isolate attraction to younger women from natural sexual preferences and associate it with deviance--yeah, that'll work.

[–]100 Modbsutansalt 139 points140 points  (7 children)

It's standard fare feminist reframing of healthy male sexuality into being some sort of deviant act or otherwise anti-social behavior. The good news is people such as us can recognize it as such and ignore women like that when we happen upon them.

Remember, WE are the gatekeepers of commitment. When you find a woman who's spouting bullshit or otherwise behaving inappropriately, the best response isn't to fight them to change their mind, it's to walk away and deny them any commitment on your part. Commitment in this sense is just a catch-all way of saying attention or validation all the way up to getting married.

[–]Swiss_Cheese9797 62 points63 points  (6 children)

WE are the gatekeepers of commitment

Please keep repeating this every chance you get. It's so important. I will upvote every time.

[–]Jimmy_Big_Nuts 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's the core judo move of RP. Know your enemy, know their weakness, know your strength. Apply pressure.

[–]andyouleaveonyourown 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Can someone explain this to me? I get that in the traditional male/female roles men commit to women, provide support for child rearing, etc. That's still a factor if the couple decide to have a child because the woman will likely need support for a while.

But children aside, in the modern SMP, with contraception, women don't need commitment at all, and have a far easier time of things than men. Men's testosterone levels mean they wanna fuck all the time, and many women, as gatekeepers of sex, just take their pick. They don't need commitment for sex because they can easily choose not to get pregnant. They don't need commitment for provision because they can get their own jobs and make their own money. Sure if they can find a suitable provider they may choose not to, but the 'modern woman' is an independent go getter (throw your hands up at her).

Men being the gatekeepers of commitment as a mirror of women being gatekeepers of sex implies that women's drive for commitment is as strong as men's drive for sex, and it's really not clear to me that this is the case. We see much written about no-fault divorce wives walking out on their men, stepping away from the commitment that was there.

I get that women want the perfect combo of wealthy-alpha-perfect-genes-who-also-commits. Who wouldn't? Men would be pretty happy with the female equivalent sexy-woman-bonus-if-she's-rich.

But all men wanna fuck most women. Whereas women want the commitment of a select few men. There's a lack of symmetry there that means it sucks if you're not one of select few.

I think I've just explained to myself why the emphasis on game, lifting etc. Can't do anything to improve your genes but you can maximise your potential with what nature gave you.

[–]jcrpta 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Despite what any SJW says, there's two issues at stake regarding commitment:

ISSUE 1:

It's a heck of a lot easier to raise kids when you don't need to worry about money coming in; you have a man providing regular income.

The social safety net ain't that great in most Western countries, it certainly does not compare to a partner who can help out practically as well as financially.

No-fault divorce means that if the man isn't providing the dream relationship the woman wants, she can divorce him and get all the financial benefits of a relationship without actually having to have sex with someone she doesn't much like any more.

ISSUE 2:

It takes more than a few social changes to wash away millions of years of evolved behaviour.

[–]kanaduhisfruityeh 3 points4 points  (0 children)

  1. Women like to have emotional support from men, in addition to the money and so on. Welfare doesn't provide that great of a life, and many women don't like working crappy jobs to support themselves.

  2. As far as sex goes, men can always find alternatives, like masturbation. There's also hookers and fake vagina sex toys.

  3. All women want to get a select few men, but the numbers don't match up. All women can't have the top 20% or 10% of men. Many will only be used for sex by these men, and when they get too old, these men won't want anything to do with them at all. That's when they seek commitment from men in the lower 80%.

[–]CloakedOrchid 70 points71 points  (14 children)

Or "pedophile" for anyone attracted to girls under 18. Oh, so at 18 a magical switch gets flipped that gives that girl tits and legs? Nope.

[–]1blahbergstein 37 points38 points  (8 children)

Or 16 if you're in Canada. Or 14 if you were in Canada ~10 years ago.

Drawing a line in the sand is necessary for legal purposes - but denying that every woman's body is different is silly. When I was in grade 10 there was a chick in grade 8 who was getting into clubs regularly with a fake ID.

She was 13/14, but easily passed for 18/19. There's no line that fits every case. But a line does have to be drawn somewhere.

[–]miles37 6 points7 points  (6 children)

They could draw a practical line at menstruation like they did in the olden days.

[–]zlex 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Uh, no. That's fucked up. Average age for consent would then be 12 years old, and some girls get their period as young as 8 or 9. Do you think it would be okay for a 40 year old to have sex with a 9 year old?

[–]miles37 2 points3 points  (4 children)

If she has her first period at 9, and another girl has her first period at 15, isn't the girl who has her period at 9 as sexually mature as the one who had her period at 15? Is it wrong for an 18 year old to have sex with a 15 year old? Dogs often get their period at ~6 months, is it O.K. to for any dog to have sex with a 6 month year old dog? Bitches are even less intelligent pubescent human females and yet they're having sex and having children just fine.

Whether I would do it or not is not the question, nor is whether or not I would recommend it, it's not even whether or not one should be shunned for doing it; the question is whether a man should be put in jail (and shot if he is able to resist that far) for having consensual sex with a female, and if he should, at what point the cut-off should be. Any age-based cut-off is arbitrary. This still requires consent remember, or else it is rape. If a girl has had her period then she will have sexual desire also, so she could reasonably consent to sex since she biologically wants it and is ready for it at that point.

Maybe it should be legal after menstruation, but people should be shunned for having sex with a girl before she has passed 2 years after menstruation, or maybe once girls have menstruated they should be able to register with some organisation, and 2 years, 4 years, or whatever number of years after her first menstruation, or when she is 14 (whichever comes first) then she would be legal for sex. This would be more practical than a purely age-based system.

[–]1exit_sandman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course the age cut is arbitrary, but you have to start somewhere. And the age of consent isn't so low (like for example 14 where I live) so adults can habe sex with adolescents, but so Test adolescents can havbe sx with one another.

14 or 16 are somewhat sensible ages because at that point I'd say that young persons are able to give consent to someone who isn't notably older. A 10 year old should never be able to give consent, regardless of her period.

[–]zlex 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If she has her first period at 9, and another girl has her first period at 15, isn't the girl who has her period at 9 as sexually mature as the one who had her period at 15?

Yes. And? The issue is not physical sexual maturity. The issue is consent and the mental ability to give consent. A 15 year old is far more mentally mature than a 9 year old.

Is it wrong for an 18 year old to have sex with a 15 year old?

I don't think so, but it would be wrong for an 18 year to have sex with a 9 year old. Age-gap clauses make sense for allowing for minors who are close in age to be exempted from the rule.

Whether I would do it or not is not the question, nor is whether or not I would recommend it, it's not even whether or not one should be shunned for doing it; the question is whether a man should be put in jail (and shot if he is able to resist that far) for having consensual sex with a female, and if he should, at what point the cut-off should be.

The issue is, again, consent, and specifically the ability to give consent. No one should ever get in trouble for having consensual sex. The issue is when does a person have the mental capacity to consent to sex.

If a girl has had her period then she will have sexual desire also, so she could reasonably consent to sex since she biologically wants it and is ready for it at that point.

Just because a girl can have a baby does not mean that she can give consent. Consent is about mental faculty, not physical capacity. That's like saying because an 8 year old has the physical capacity to breathe and can smoke they should be allowed to buy cigarettes. Or that once someone has the motor skills necessary to sign their name they should be allowed to enter into a contact.

I'm a little shocked and frankly disgusted that this has a single up-vote. Any adult could easily manipulate a 9 year old into doing all sorts of things, and that is the real issue that these laws try and address. It's not about if a girl can physically have a baby, it's about protecting children who have not fully developed their mental faculties from being manipulated by people who have.

[–]VincentPrice 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Technically that would be a hebophile.

[–]apreotea 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Even more technically (and correctly [and sorry for the pedantry!{whee nested brackets are fun!}]) it's spelled "ephebophile."

[–]vicious_armbar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or "pedophile" for anyone attracted to girls under 18. Oh, so at 18 a magical switch gets flipped that gives that girl tits and legs? Nope.

I've seen more and more bitter women start to sling that accusation at men who go after other women that are 18-24 instead of them. They try to shame men for having a preference for consenting adults who are younger then them; by accusing the men of being baby rapists. It's a fucking despicable tactic, and it trivializes children who actually have been raped by sexual predators.

[–]MCrazyHorseInvincible[M] 79 points80 points  (8 children)

This represents a hilarious trend I've been noticing from feminism lately. They're so used to getting their way by using language control and powertalk to bend weak men to their wills, now they're trying to use language control and powertalk at their bodies. They're trying to convince biology to convert to feminism with their words.

Stickied for this.

When dealing with women, always remember that they are so used to using persuasion, that they sometimes don't realize when they are dealing with physical reality, not people.

[–]14io8 41 points42 points  (2 children)

They almost never know when they are dealing with physical reality. Women value perception over reality. To them the only reality is the social one. Everything a woman wants and every problem a woman has can be achieved or solved by changing how someone else feels. Usually to match the way they feel. Its one of the fundamental differences between men and woman. Its not a feminist thing.

[–]slappywhyte 4 points5 points  (1 child)

the perception over reality thing - that bothers me in general as a trend about society -- words meaning more than actions, apologies for everything that might have offended someone, etc --

[–]through_a_ways 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Also remember that their claims and values only apply when convenient.

For example, AskHamsters supports slut-shaming, as long as it's directed at men: http://i.imgur.com/v95G3Z2.png

[–]5 Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz[S] 26 points27 points  (1 child)

"It has nothing to do with sex-positiveness, it's just that some women have high standards."

Aaaand my desire to not share my commitment with a slut? Is that a preference? Of course not, I have a dick so it's a bias.

[–]through_a_ways 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Well you're gross because you like to sleep with lots of women.

I'm totally not shaming you right now.

[–]ytismylife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It really is that simple, yet people continue to deny the truth because it takes them out of their comfort zones.

To deny the evolutionary forces that moulded us into what we are is laughable.

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (3 children)

Another relevant bit from Community I fucking love.

"Well, Shirley, since you've clearly failed to grasp the central insipid metaphor of those Twilight books you devour, let me explain it to you: Men are monsters who crave young flesh. The end."

Jeff Winger is the patron saint of TRP. His face when Annie is on his lap says "can't believe this bitch thinks she can manipulate me with sex".

If anyone needs a starting point for swallowing the pill, pay attention to Jeff's behaviour on that show.

[–]MrFunnycat 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Dan Harmon's shit is pretty RP in general, gotta recommend Rick and Morty too. It doesn't touch upon sexual dynamics that much but when it does it's accurate.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dan Harmon is fucking awesome, you should check out Harmontown.

[–]SikPon11 132 points133 points  (50 children)

Again, you all have to consider what types of women religiously browse reddit/askwomen.

They are no representation of everyday women, and should not be taken seriously.

Don't get me wrong stupidity irks me too, but these are bums and even a second spent thinking about them is a waste of time.

[–]seeing-red- 69 points70 points  (12 children)

Reddit is mostly fat chicks and broke guys.

-- Sir Isaac Newton

[–]LastRevision 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Reddit is mostly sluts and virgins.

[–]sway_usa 8 points9 points  (9 children)

Newton knew the concept of SMV. He also was a MGTOW, look it up.

[–]Schrodingersdawg 8 points9 points  (5 children)

He is purported to never have had sexual relations, ever.

Hell, if going MGTOW led to you inventing something as difficult as calculus at the rate which a high schooler learns it, I'd do it too.

[–]bh3244 8 points9 points  (0 children)

newton had better things to worry about then putting his peepee in some roast beef hole.

[–]Syd_G 5 points6 points  (3 children)

There's a book where a guy interviews several billionaires and highly successful people who wanted to stay anonymous on the subject of sex but in it the author swears that they told him something along the lines of transmitting their sexual energy to other areas which they wanted to improve on. I can't remember the name of the book but it was really popular.

[–]humankin 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Can you send me a link or a name when you think of it?

[–]Syd_G 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Found it! The book is called Think and Grow Rich: Chapter 11. The Mystery of Sex Transmutation.

[–]we_r_legun1993 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He was mgtow but not by choice. He was autistic.

Isaac Newton hardly spoke and had few friends. He was often so absorbed in his work that he forgot to eat, demonstrating an obsessive single-mindedness that is commonly associated with Asperger's. If nobody attended his lessons, he reportedly gave lectures to an empty room. When he was 50, he suffered a nervous breakdown brought on by depression and paranoia.[35]

[–]eccentricrealist 61 points62 points  (22 children)

You've got a point there, A lot of women on reddit must be the equivalent of neckbeards.

[–]undead_keyboard 84 points85 points  (4 children)

I believe the appropriate term is "legbeard."

[–]Atanvarno 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Some of them even "armpitbeard."

[–]RedPillProphet 45 points46 points  (14 children)

Can confirm, went to a reddit meetup. Jesus christ, I have never seen so many ugly people together in my life. There were a number of decent men but the women... every single one was obese and bordering on facially disfigured.

[–]rondiculous 9 points10 points  (4 children)

I would love to see someone pulicly identify as an RPer at a reddit meetup.

[–]RedPillProphet 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Being a little naive, I openly admitted to it on the meet up thread. Oh boy that did not go well. In person though, it was not a problem... the group was so awkward and homely looking that as a normal guy I automatically assumed AMOG status... anything I said worked like a charm.

Word of advice: Keep your TRP and local/main reddit account completely separate.

[–]rondiculous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's what I mean, you'll be a mark out there in the wild of reddit online, in person, I'm sure no one would say a thing to you.

[–]j0hnan0n 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I volunteer as tribute. When's the next meetup@

[–]redjimdit 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Oh god, there's your first mistake, going to a Reddit meetup. Went to one in Madison, WI and I've never noped my way out of something so fast in my life. My wife's no perfect 10, but she's smart, has giant cans, neon hair, and a nose ring, which apparently is an OMGBBQ11 for neckbeards, because these guys wouldn't stop.

Thankfully my wife's quick enough with the wit that she can lay to waste a trumpeting beast with just a few words. I think she made someone cry.

[–]Syd_G 3 points4 points  (3 children)

How did she make someone cry?

[–]redjimdit 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Some land yacht was drunk and slobbering all over me, trying to get me to "admit" that I was in love with her (I had just met this woman a few hours ago when she was sober), how I truly wanted to dump my wife and "shack up" with her. My wife gave her a forearm to the neck against a wall and let her know her place.

[–]humankin 7 points8 points  (1 child)

My wife gave her a forearm to the neck against a wall and let her know her place.

Seriously? That's pretty awesome.

[–]redjimdit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's totally awesome. My wife doesn't eat ANYONE'S shit sandwich, she sure wasn't about to start with Moons-over-my-hammy here.

My wife and I have an open marriage, we've had an open relationship since we met in the 90s. It wasn't that this soul-sucker was hitting on me, it was that I clearly didn't want it, and my wife threw an elbow out of a prideful backup.

[–]iwantout90 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Why did you even bother going to a reddit meetup?

[–]1xwm 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I think the more important question is: why does anyone go to a reddit meetup? I understand if it is a board on philosophy, a specific hobby or something akin to those, but otherwise, I feel like it would go horribly awry. A general reddit meetup? Forget it.

[–]iwantout90 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Eh, any kind of internet meetup just seems not so fun to me. If this sub had a meetup, I probably wouldn't go.

[–]1xwm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This sub would probably be the only one that I would consider going to

[–]12FAM0US 47 points48 points  (6 children)

most women don't even know what reddit is. they are too consumed by texting, shopping, netflix, starbucks, guy drama... you get the point.

[–]Acx3 32 points33 points  (4 children)

I think you have effectively summarized 99% of the female population.

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    [–]slappywhyte 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    legbeards -- that's funny -- hadn't heard that one before

    [–]Lilcheeks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Yea, it's pretty rare I find anything in there that coincides with real life experience.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    To add to that, I don't think people hate our ideologies like reddit does. They usually think something along the lines of, "yeah that's a good point" and then forget about it and continue living just like they were before.

    [–]colombianguy 51 points52 points  (11 children)

    Does anyone else remember that r/sex thread from a few months ago, titled "My wife is angry because sex has gotten better after her little sister moved in with us."? Good times.

    [–]ImprovingWithReddit 4 points5 points  (6 children)

    Do you have the link to the thread?

    [–]AllenArken 3 points4 points  (3 children)

    Oops TRP automod just informed me that TRP doesn't do links to reddit anymore - just search for the exact title that the poster above put in bold.

    [–]JustReward 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    Please tell me why we can't even use the proper subreddit syntax while brigade-only, zero-braincell subreddits like SRS don't even have to use np?

    No wait, don't tell me. I already know the answer.

    [–]hohamocha 14 points15 points  (1 child)

    They should have had a threesome.

    [–]sniperhiding 78 points79 points  (10 children)

    The other thing to note....

    "I'm a girl and I want to understand why men do something. I know, I will go ask women. That makes sense"

    [–]hohamocha 26 points27 points  (0 children)

    The problem here isn't that they are asking the same sex about advice for the the opposite sex. The problem is that they are asking the sex that doesn't know much about why they themselves behave the way they do. Since women can't accurately explain most of their own actions, wants, or needs, how does one expect them to explain the wants, needs, and actions of men? Know what you want and why you want it before you go to explain what other people want.

    [–]Sirinon 12 points13 points  (1 child)

    because Askmen usually gives them the answers they don't want to hear.

    Occasionally you get women asking questions in askmen, receiving straight answers and then refusing to accept them.

    [–]TheOpposingView 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    Ask the fisherman...

    But then again, maybe their question is not about strategy, so asking men directly makes more sense?

    [–]punis1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    Ask the fisherman...

    When they go to AskWomen they are actually asking fish how the fisherman behaves/works. Human females don't fish for males (most of the time), it's the other way around.

    [–]Entrefut 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Out of curiosity, how often do women come on here and ask for advice on how to get men to commit? I think it would bring a tear to my eye.

    [–]humankin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I recall something like that a few weeks ago. Naturally she was directed to RPW since that's basically why they're a community.

    [–]SekcRokStallion 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    Makes sense to me. I come to TRP for advice regarding sexual strategy.

    [–]2elysius 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    A proper parallel would be going to TRPW.

    The thing about the average woman is that they are either clueless or in denial about their nature, and that of men as well. The RP is about lifting the veil of pretty lies and dealing with reality.

    [–]laere 65 points66 points  (10 children)

    Its why a lot of pre and post wall women wonder why no one wants them. They are becoming old and dried up. I want to fuck that 18 year old in that short skirt. Not a leather glove. And it will be that way forever.

    [–]CrusherTheMutilator 30 points31 points  (7 children)

    I'd go for that pre/post wall cougar any time, it's just that she won't admit that in her late thirties her SMV is not what it used to be and won't act accordingly.

    [–]sway_usa 5 points6 points  (6 children)

    I've fucked all the way up to age 38. She has to be the top 1% though, the best of the best of the best. And even then, it's only to scratch an itch, and not deal with as much horse-shit to get it. It's picking the low hanging fruit. I'd still rather smash a 19 year old cheerleader any day.

    [–]duckducklandwhale 7 points8 points  (5 children)

    There are upsides to older women in my experience. Their value drop also drops them back to reality and they buy me shit. Other that that...yea

    [–]sway_usa 25 points26 points  (4 children)

    Yeah I had a 38 year old yoga instructor who would literally let me do anything I wanted in bed until I came, then would massage my back and make me food. It was just good living.

    [–]ITHOUGHTYOUMENTWEAST 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    What makes them so selfless* later in life? They almost voluntarily become your slave, something 25 + below would hardly ever consider doing.

    [–]TheSKSpecial 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    Easy. They hadn't been getting the male attention they used to get when they were younger and hotter, so they're going to do their damnedest to keep it now.

    [–]chainlinks 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    I don't know. In my experience, I've found younger women to be very compliant.

    Again this is in my own personal adventures, but I've noticed that younger women (18-23ish) are usually in a position of power in their relationships with their boyfriends that are the same age.

    There's something very natural about the age gap when you bring a younger woman into the bedroom. You're able to offer them direction which in turn makes her comfortable.

    However, I guess it can work both ways when an older woman is tired of her beta husband's bitchery and needs to reconnect with her feminine nature. I just don't have much experience with 35+ women.

    [–]BFMCBeaner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    They are as long as you maintain a strong frame and lead them. They will fall all over you if you have the SMV for it.

    Older (post wall) women are low hanging fruit but if you find the right ones they can be a hell of a lot of fun. I'm 40 now and one of my plates is 42, red head, runs 5 miles daily at the crack of dawn with a tight body for a woman of her age, rides her own motorcycle and was alone after being widowed for 10 years and didn't ride the CC much between her career and raising two sons, whom both are BP adults now. She is an absolute demon in the sack! Makes me fight to get that puss of hers. The more I bruise her the happier she is when she leaves.

    [–]SomebodyCool 38 points39 points  (1 child)

    What is the deal with men fetishizing youth?

    Man humanity is such a fucked up race, apparently every single culture that we've ever established has praised and celebrated something that's a fetish, we must really suck. I suggest that feminists divorce themselves from the human race and declare themselves non-human, that would help with a lot of things.

    [–]1spicy_fries 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    I suggest that feminists divorce themselves from the human race and declare themselves non-human, that would help with a lot of things.

    Hey, we could do this. TRP could just declare them "non-humans" and cast them out of the tribe.

    [–]Gucci_guwop 16 points17 points  (0 children)

    Woman don't go to r/askwoman with actual questions they want answered. They go to confirm what they already believe.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorAerobus 17 points18 points  (1 child)

    Aaaaand that's when I realized. If you make a statement in AskHamsters about how youth and fertility relate, the mods will delete your fucking comment.

    If you make a statement that is factually correct, you'll get banned from the subreddit.

    Source: Myself and my experiences with AskHamsters.

    [–]5 Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    I can't post there either anymore. I made the mistake of asking if someone could give me an example of TRP endorsing rape. Cue instaban.

    [–]1redpillbanana 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    It amazes me how far women (and feminists in particular) will go to avoid the truth in order to make the world fit their ideals.

    It's not a recent phenomenon, either. If you look at this debate with Esther Vilar in 1975, you'll see her feminist opponent threaten her with a lawsuit twice, once for personal libel, and the second time as a class-action lawsuit on behalf of all women: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py2b1g73bt4

    The feminists love to use censorship and government force to stamp out opposition and force the world into becoming closer to their ideals. This is why it's great to see when the government boot is turned back on them, as it was in the University of Toronto feminist protest of the MRA speakers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0

    [–]BitingInsects 15 points16 points  (2 children)

    I commented and deleted. I just stopped bothering.

    There is one Male BP mod at AskHamsters that literally posts there every other day seeking their approval and validation with shit like "What can I do to make your day more special?" "Thank you ladies for always answering my questions."

    Quite frankly, he's creepy as fuck.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    This is true? Who the fuck would do that?

    [–]RandomAnecdote 13 points14 points  (1 child)

    To make honey, young bee need young flower, not old prune. -Kesuke Miyagi

    [–]munky82 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Mr. Miyagi was always a wise one

    [–]qaiszer0 17 points18 points  (0 children)

    Hmm, a beautiful 18 year old girl with wide hips or a saggy fridge shaped 35 year old woman who looks 45 because of all the alcohol, smoking and other bad lifestyle choices?

    Oh whatever will I do...this decision is so hard.

    [–]Redpiller456 8 points9 points  (6 children)

    This is just reality supported by plenty of research. Men find younger women more attractive. I doubt this is just America, it is found in every society as far as I know.

    [–]AngraMainyuu 4 points5 points  (5 children)

    Just take a look at biology and pre-technology civilization. People didn't often live into their 40s, 50s and onward. The average lifespan pushed 30 or so for a long long time, with the majority of people dieing well before that. Taking that into account, along with the obvious hormonal changes just before that 20yr mark, it makes complete sense why teenagers are universally idealized. They're the peak of the reproductive years.

    That being said, avoid teenagers like the plague.

    [–]ButterMyBiscuit 18 points19 points  (4 children)

    The average lifespan pushed 30 or so for a long long time

    That's not true, the life EXPECTANCY was around 30, that takes into account baby and child deaths, which were common due to diseases etc. People who survived into their 20s routinely lived into their 60s even in BC times.

    [–]AngraMainyuu 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    I have to admit I've studied up on at least European history pretty well. Mind sourcing that one for me? Genuinely curious.

    [–]ButterMyBiscuit 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Not a source on European history, but this article covers it pretty well:

    http://www.livescience.com/10569-human-lifespans-constant-2-000-years.html

    [–]real-boethius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Correct - look at the Ancient Greeks. Many of the philosophers lived into their 70s and 80s.

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      [–]Mr_Andry 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      What I find truly awful is that many women feel shamed to admit they have strong sex drives. There are a hell of a lot of them, but they think a sex drive is "masculine" so they don't want to be seen that way.

      [–]TheSKSpecial 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      What I find truly awful is that many women feel shamed to admit they have strong sex drives.

      Which is funny, because they'll say "women's sex drives are as high as men's" when they want to defend riding the carousel.

      [–]humankin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Are those the same women saying both? It's conceivable that non-slutty women attempt to distinguish themselves from the sluts that say things like "women's sex drives are as high as men's". Or perceived sluts since I'm not sure of any of these demographics.

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        [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 23 points24 points  (7 children)

        Yeah standard code for AskWomen...

        Just like AskBetas is the code for AskMen.

        [–]TheSKSpecial 16 points17 points  (0 children)

        Here's hoping Hamsterdam catches on for TwoX.

        [–]Sirinon 5 points6 points  (4 children)

        I have no idea whats happening to askmen, in the last 3-6 months there has been a huge betafying of that sub, it's a shame because thre was a stage where askmen was brutally honest.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 9 points10 points  (3 children)

        TRP came along. AskMen had to distinguish itself from TRP so they started giving the more socially acceptable answers rather than be branded as Terpers and misogynists.

        The problem is they basically cave to any and all shaming tactics. Hence why they're overrun with Betas. Also the sheer number of women in the sub preventing it from being a true place to ask men about stuff.

        [–]username1153 17 points18 points  (1 child)

        Fuck that shit! I remember a couple of years ago feeling dirty, ashamed, guilty, perverted, and like something was wrong with me because I was attracted to girls younger than me (17,18) even when I was 21. It was mostly because other friends would make me feel that way and they would ask why I didn't like girls the same age as me, but deep down I knew it was something innate which I couldn't change. I felt like a fucking pedophile!

        [–]BFMCBeaner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        You should never feel that way as a natural man. All of us in our 40's and 50's in here will admit to being attracted to 18 year olds still. I make no bones about it.

        [–]SneakyTouchy 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        This represents a hilarious trend I've been noticing from feminism lately. They're so used to getting their way by using language control and powertalk to bend weak men to their wills, now they're trying to use language control and powertalk at their bodies. They're trying to convince biology to convert to feminism with their words.

        I don't think I've ever seen so much gold packed into three sentences, but it goes even deeper

        "Every time they go shopping at the mall, they're barraged by images of young women in lingerie. They just can't find the beauty in an older woman because society has been programming them not to."

        If I had anything to say to them, I would ironically agree that society actually has conditioned me to think this way. When I see a young woman, my mind has trained itself to assign attributes and prejudices based on life experience, but it's not a product of media. I don't watch tv and I don't read magazines. I deal with women personally, professionally, and learned most of what I know from field observation. Countless instances of drama between friends, past relationships, 5 years of college and all the diversity that comes with it. The young are more energetic, optimistic, and have a more innocent vitality about them that gives a potential relationship more value. When I see a woman who's older and fat, I usually discover them to also be self absorbed, feminist, or spend most of her time bitching about men. It comes with heavy doubt that she will be an enjoyable experience.

        They aren't just trying to convince biology to convert to feminism, they are also trying to convince the society they created that society is the problem. Hilarious trend indeed.

        [–]SeekingAlpha 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Every time they go shopping at the mall[...]

        Yup...surely something that I partake of no more than twice a year is totally brainwashing me to find something attractive that I otherwise would not find attractive. But homosexuals are just born attracted to the same-sex, of course. Solipsism at it's finest.

        [–]john1443 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        It's like a fellow female student of mine. I mentioned that it's much more likely that STDs are transmitted male->female rather than female->male. During that time I assumed biologic reasons, since finding out about TRP I am not so sure anymore. Anyway, her reaction: that makes me so angry. I said well, that's hardly something sexist, now is it?. Her response: it's still sooo unfair. so angry. Needless to say, BP-me was baffled by the response.

        [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        Better question. Why do most decent looking 18-27 year old girls show obvious interest in my 45 year old gray bearded self? Oh sure, daddy issues is the first one they prop up, but these girls can't all have daddy issues. Actually those who do aren't into me because I'm not tall enough.

        I can fuck girls that age, why the hell should I settle for some worn out 40-50 chick with wrinkles and craters everywhere that isn't sagging into the topsoil?

        [–]alphabux 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        Male chimps don't care about youth. They see an ovulating female and they want to bang her (ovulation is not concealed in female chimps).

        Human males want youth in a partner because humans are mostly monogamous (unlike chimps). If you have to stay with one female for the rest of your life, you will choose the one that can give you the most babies over a lifetime: the younger one.

        It's not so much that females are more fertile when they're young. It's about time away from menopause.

        [–]Mr_Andry 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        Younger women are also more likely to have an easy birth, thus they both survive.

        [–]kanaduhisfruityeh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        You're right. Before modern medicine a lot of women used to die in childbirth. A young, relatively strong and healthy, physically mature woman would probably have been more likely to survive childbirth and have healthy babies than a 40 year old woman. Today a lot of 40-something year old women have babies, but they're often spending lots of money to get pregnant. Even then, some of these older women, with all their money and all the most advanced treatments, still can't get pregnant.

        [–]1whatsazipper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Never saw a chimp build a rocket either.

        [–]IrateMollusk 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        I haven't swallowed the Red Pill, I like to get involved in a range of communities and hear everyone's opinions. There are some ideas here that really interest me and I see their merit, though I am pretty new, but I also follow threads in a lot of subreddits like r/TwoXChromosomes r/TrollXChromosomes and all those equivalents, so I get exposed to a massive range of mindsets, and I must say for all the shit you guys get talked about in a lot of boards, I've not seen a hivemind half as intense as you get from those two subreddits here or nearly anywhere else short of tumblr, and you lot actually listen to reason and don't flat out deny science.

        Of course we're attracted to people for biologically determined reasons, next they'll be offended you're daring to accuse them of the fact of being half a chromosome away from the chimp. If evolution didn't factor us to be attracted to people for advantageous biological reasons we'd never have gone anywhere as a species.

        [–]obsidian_pill 10 points11 points  (2 children)

        This is where their Arts degree fails to help them understand the world and our biological history.

        [–]slappywhyte 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        so much of this seems to stem from how universities have just become bastions of SJW propaganda, with dissenting voices shunned, silenced and ignored -- they've been that way for some time, just seems to have accelerated in the past 10+ years

        [–]kanaduhisfruityeh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        The universities are filled with pseudo-intellectuals who use big words to say things that don't mean anything. Just listen to the things that some of these people say. It is complete useless gibberish hidden by a thin layer pseudo-intellectual terminology.

        [–]papadop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I love hearing idiots who claim that "society" is whitewashing men training them to have specific preferences.

        Men aren't attracted to lean/slender model physiques....."Society" is cramming it down their throats. Men aren't naturally attracted to youthful girls at the peak of their fertility ---- "Society" is forcing it upon them to enjoy it.

        Because the world is run by a bunch of corrupt men who pull the strings shaping the average man to be attracted to slender/young women. Why? Because they have a deep hatred for women, and want to give them a hard time by telling them they need to be not be fat to be attractive. Men know that it's a huge inconvenience to women to take basic care of themselves, so they came up with this sexist conspiracy. That's why. Makes tons of sense.

        [–]thredditsowaway 11 points12 points  (6 children)

        Fuck, these people think too much. It's because younger women tend to be hotter. End of discussion. A rational woman would accept this and either get hitched early or hit the gym. Even if they're right about the brainwashing, isn't it easier to just conform to the existing standard than try to change it?

        I think they take up the impossible cause because it means they can satisfy their need to place blame externally and therefore not feel obligated to any kind of action.

        [–]Ryanphy 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        In addition to the theory of 'brainwashing by ads who use young models', the logic behind it still goes back to younger = more attractive and fertility. It is because the younger models are more desired, that is why they are picked to star in the ads in the first place.

        [–]kuayi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Exactly, the argument "that's what society programs us to do" is just wrong. Ad companies don't waste billions advertising shit that doesn't relate to the core of human desires. Honestly, sure, I can see how it reinforces our desires in some way through increased exposure, but those reasons were always there to begin with.

        [–]seeing-red- 9 points10 points  (2 children)

        A rational woman

        Hahahaha

        Wait, you were serious? OK.

        I have literally never seen one of these. The closest thing was probably a STEM girl I knew in college who went for the alphas and was self-aware enough to be puzzled when things didn't work out in her favor, rather than blaming everyone else for it.

        [–]through_a_ways 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        I personally know only one girl whom I'd consider rational; she's very neurotic (and not that great in the looks department), but she's actually good fun to talk to. She's also a STEM person (go figure).

        [–]vaker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        STEM requires the ability to deal with reality. No amount of emoting and 'consensus' will keep a bridge suspended unless it's designed and built properly.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        Everyone remember who were talkingabout here...these are women and a few sad hopeless men who don't understand logic and reasoning. Let them delete the comments and do their will. In the end they will be miserable. these are the people you see in public looking like the life was sucked out of them. emasculated..slumped shouldered little rats. and the low quality, burger at 2am eating bitches puking and crying on the curb. let them have each other.

        [–]Locastor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        let them have each other.

        They don't actually have each other (not in the Biblical sense anyway) because the betas won't close.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        The betas will close..sloppily as they tend to do.but what i mean is that by default they will and they do tend to get together. beta provider and wall-hitting hamster are like pancakes and syrup.were wasting pearls on swine

        [–]whateverdipshit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Where's that OKcupid poll that said ALL men prefer 18-24 yo women?

        [–]sunwukong15 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        These chicks need to wake the fuck up and realize that mother nature isn't a beta male. They have no control over her.

        Hahaha fucking made me laugh hard. These woman have made their beds and the least they can do to cope is censor logic, from others and themselves.

        [–]farbenwvnder 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Sometimes society just rationalises things as a whole to feel at ease. I can understand why 30+ women don't WANT to believe that their husband would exchange them for a 18 year old in a heartbeat when it comes to sex/attraction. They can't do anything about aging. It sucks and they want to deny it and when every other woman denies it with them, it feels less painful

        [–]whitey_male 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        It's mostly about chemistry to me. You can still get that in the 30s, but when the 40s come around and the ageing starts to show, chemistry can't really overcome ageing.

        Essentially no one really wants a cc rider who acted like a princess in her 20s and just assumed beta bucks would be there when she was done. You can spot that attitude a mile off.

        A woman who wants to give you her 20s and the rest of her life shows a hell of a lot more respect, loyalty and dedication. Well it simply shows respect, loyalty, and dedication instead of selfishness that you get from the "because I'm worth it" women.

        [–]DexiAntoniu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I prefer my women more in shape, with less wrinkles and less used. What's the problem, I can't have standards? Of course, I romanticize the idea of having a long-time wife with which I grow, experience life, travel, have sweet kids and raise them with her and just grow old with her and our memories and our own jokes etc, I wouldn't want any other woman at any age if I'd be with this worthwhile, wonderful, feminine woman...but otherwise I want my skanks young ofc.

        [–]we_r_legun1993 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        What's up with all these people trying to guilt trip us into saying that we like wrinkly old women? I don't understand. They say shit like "everyone has their own preferences" and then when 90% of men say that they prefer younger women, they get called rapists/mysonginists/virgins/etc.

        [–]1KyfhoMyoba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        U of Wisconsin added a program in "Feminist Biology" to help combat the sexist, patriarchal biology that we now have.

        I shit you not.

        [–]Doctor_Mayhem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Tell me if this makes sense to anyone... Someone goes to AskWomen about why MEN prefer younger women...

        That's like asking EA why everyone hates EA, or asking democrats why they're solutions don't work.

        I guess these retards never thought to ask the people in question, you know... FUCKING MEN, why we like 'em younger, hotter, and tighter.

        God... I hope every woman of my generation dies alone and unloved in a nursing home.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        This is like trying to get women to convert to prefer skinny guys to muscular guys. It's Fuckin biology, it will never be different.

        [–]Gami_Lon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I used to post in the sex subreddit, but found that my posts were routinely deleted.

        This is a big part of Marxist feminism. They're not interested in having a DEBATE, the goal is homogenization. When someone says something that isn't in lockstep with the feminist agenda, it's deleted.

        Check out the history of the Soviet Union, you'll find that people would routinely disappear for dissent.

        [–]SariaLystra 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        What if, instead, we let this keep going? What if we edge them on?

        Maybe we convince feminists to wage a "jihad" on men? I think it would be a very interesting experiment to see the US get turned into Israel because a certain gender was getting their way.

        [–]cagethepepper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        It's sad, if anything. These women are just as deluded as I was, and you as well, before finding TRP.

        [–]RyanTcone 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        Did the mods delete it or was he just downvoted into oblivion and chose to delete it? It's those kind of connect the dot assumptions we need to steer clear of...

        [–]5 Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        They were higher up in the thread than other upvoted comments, so presumably they had a positive upvote count when they were deleted.

        [–]Wheatspin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        It's funny, because society is the reason it's unacceptable to have sex with teen girls, and people are trying to tell us that society's the reason we want to. Sex with teen girls has only been frowned upon in (relatively) recent history. It used to be totally normal and accepted. If they weren't meant to have sex at that age, they wouldn't go through puberty.

        That said, I feel I should specify that I don't approve of pedophilia.

        [–]1Jaereth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Cause young girls are just hotter. There are times when I was in a social setting and I tried to pick up the 30 y.o. woman over the 20 because she was just hotter. This was like 1% of the time.

        But I know, I shouldn't be doing that. I should be giving those carousel riders who are slamming into the wall a chance, and knock them up, then man up and raise the kids. I know, I'm familiar with the plan askwomen...

        [–]Swiss_Cheese9797 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Please lets all just ignore r/askwomen and maybe it'll just go away.

        [–]sampson158 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        apparently it was such a common answer that they had to stop deleting it, I found the thread and there are now at least 16 fertility related answers in a control F search on the initial page load.

        [–]incraved 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I used to be subbed to that subreddit, but I gave up on it when I realised that the women there really aren't the representative of your average woman on the street.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        You don't know what the deleted comments actually said. Maybe they ruled out other factors and reduced it only to fertility.

        While fertility certainly has a lot to do with it, it's not the only aspect of youth. There are other major factors at play here, like playfulness, innocence, dominance&submission.

        [–]kanaduhisfruityeh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        If you make a statement in AskHamsters about how youth and fertility relate, the mods will delete your fucking comment.

        This is standard practice on any internet forum dominated by these women or their supporters. If you say something that's too real, you get banned. I've been banned from at least a half dozen websites for this "offence" (telling the truth).

        They're so used to getting their way by using language control and powertalk to bend weak men to their wills, now they're trying to use language control and powertalk at their bodies. They're trying to convince biology to convert to feminism with their words.

        These chicks need to wake the fuck up and realize that mother nature isn't a beta male. They have no control over her.

        Right on.

        [–]DianaDewAsmr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Apparently any desire a man has is society's work and indoctrination. Blondes, big tits, youth, worrying about penis size...

        But if a woman wants a tall guy it's because of "evolution - big men are protective"

        [–]joe_bruised_ego 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I know I'm late, but here's a link

        Here's also a link to a similar badscience post, I was shocked to see them saying shit that had nothing to do with science and making assertions based purely on politics- even linking to fertility rates data that disproved their own points