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[–]Aspiring_Hobo 405 points406 points  (55 children)

Tragic. Absolutely tragic. This is the shit our young men are being taught: to disregard their own dignity and common sense because females are somehow beyond reproach when they act like whores. Their setting this guy up for failure. This is like the fucking template for beta bux right here

[–]tothemillions 96 points97 points  (49 children)

And on ASKMEN, what tf is going on

[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 137 points138 points  (30 children)

Askmen has tons of betas and women answering the questions there so you can guarantee the advice you get is overwhelmingly buepill. You will get snippets of red pill here or there but most of askmen is crap.

Blue pill ideas are all feel good mentality and so people love them. Why change when you are perfect just the way you are? Why would you question the love of your woman when you should just trust her and know that everything will turn out all right? Why bother questioning any red flags because she's The One?

Except for the few people from trp that post there, almost everything there is useless.

[–]1whatsazipper 105 points106 points  (8 children)

The fact that a sizeable number of contributors in Askmen are women should be enough to demonstrate how worthless the sub is.

[–]Hoodwink 60 points61 points  (7 children)

I think that's because Askwomen is even more useless.. the women then go on askmen and tell men exactly how to operate assuming they're the attractive guys they fuck on the weekends that they want to tie down.

Women seem to 'assume masculinity' and attractiveness when giving advice. Their directive is then how to be better serve women.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (6 children)

the women then go on askmen and tell men exactly how to operate assuming they're the attractive guys they fuck on the weekends that they want to tie down.

I disagree, and I mean, I strongly disagree.

The average reddit womanlandwhale couldn't attract even the most average guy to save her life.

Honestly it's easier to find a decent (read: LTR material) girl in a stripclub than an average looking female on reddit. (excluding subs like GW or anywhere an average+ girl might get the daily attention she needs)

[–]Hoodwink 19 points20 points  (5 children)

There are attractive women on Reddit. They're not all land-whales. The demographic of Reddit has shifted over the years.

The hot girls in HR or in a strip club are on Reddit. Everyone below 30 basically knows about Reddit.

[–]redrummr 15 points16 points  (1 child)

They are not active users. Those chicks browse the front page and are excited they know about maybe one non-default sub. Landwhales are the ones commenting.

[–]RPthrowaway123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that the majority of the frequent users are probably landwhales, but I have run into some attractive women who use it. Every single one of them didn't use 2X or askwomen.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I said aside from subs where a woman can't get her attention fix you'll be lucky if you find and active, attractive woman on reddit.

I just tested this by going on r/hamsterdam and picked the first thread targeted at attractive women, clicked on the top comment and, unsurprisingely, despite the fact she's been a redditor for 3 years she only has around 50 posts. (This is assuming she doesn't have a warped image of herself and is actually attractive)

Again, I'm not saying attractive women on reddit are a myth, I'm just saying they're more likely to lurk on subs like r/funny and the likes instead of going on subs like AskMen (or TBP for that matter)

[–]newlifeasredpill 22 points23 points  (16 children)

I disagree that everything there is useless.

I wasn't sure if I was fully unplugged until I threw up after reading this "advice"

"I read my wife's texts and she mentioned how wet she gets when thinking about her workmate ....Bill. I don't know what to do."

Just explain to her how you saw the phone Buzz and happened to glance at it. Tell her how incredibly hurt you feel. Talk it though to make sure you are not taking something out of context"

[–]Pubic_Lice 34 points35 points  (10 children)

How the hell is it possible to take "I get wet for another man" out of context?

[–]Movonnow 4 points5 points  (4 children)

I don't know man. Today's men are just so fucked up in the head.

[–]insoucianc 17 points18 points  (3 children)

We're a generation of men raised by women.

[–]fillymandee 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I'm wondering if another woman is really the answer we need.

[–]_valtiel_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Maybe she's scared of him so she pisses herself.

[–]Uphoria -1 points0 points  (3 children)

because guys will say "Dude, did you see that new chick in HR? I'd do anything and everything to her"

But when a woman does it, its because she is trying to cheat?

Not everyone is so paranoid of their SO that the idea that they get sexually turned on by other people isn't going to end a relationship.

[–]1aguy01 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Because men cheat, most of the time, just to 'spread their seed', even with no intention of leaving their woman. Women usually cheat because they want a better man and think they can hook one. If it doesn't work out they keep letting their beta take of them. If it does, she branch swings.

If you're going to marry a woman it should at least be one that acts like a woman.

[–]Uphoria 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man, never ever listen in on a table of women at a bar.

Women talk like men do, Finding a woman who wont walk over you and won't "trade up" is not the same as finding a demure princess.

[–]Pubic_Lice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

because guys will say "Dude, did you see that new chick in HR? I'd do anything and everything to her"

(Most) men, wont cheat on their girl, due to concepts like honor. Women are not bound by such things.

[–]Gimprome 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My roommate came crying to me asking if she was hard to love because she was having problems with her bf. i told her that she is just a stereotypical female. She took it as a compliment.

[–]through_a_ways 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Askmen has tons of betas and women answering the questions there so you can guarantee the advice you get is overwhelmingly buepill. You will get snippets of red pill here or there but most of askmen is crap.

I don't know, Askmen seems bipolar. Some threads are just short of red, and others are deep navy.

[–]artemiswasfowled -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The mods there are also closet racists, believe me, I had my questions removed even when they were not provocative in any way. The entire sub is garbage.

[–]overreactor 33 points34 points  (13 children)

Well, you said it. He asked men, and most men are happy to wear their beta tinted goggles. My only solace is to think that OP and the betas who responded are exactly like us, only a couple of weeks/months/years removed from finally breaking.

We've been there guys, c'mon. We know how easy it is too feel like that, how programmed we've been, how righteous and fair we all liked to feel while defending those sort of opinions. Like we were some improved version of a raw musculinity we've been too quick too dismiss.

It is a sad, moving thing, to see a fellow dude, someone who could be my friend and who probably is an awesome friend, being taken advantage of by someone much, much smarter then him. The girl has been fucking this guy for ages now, and the poor dude is being kept awake worrying if she has "romantic feelings" for the guy.

There's no 'confusion' in anyone's heart. Specially a woman's.

If an LTR is not 100% consistent, the time for you to leave has already passed.

[–]breeezzz 8 points9 points  (11 children)

Word dude. We should be having a discussion on how to help these bros out; not laughing at how pathetic they are.

What's wrong boys? Are we scared of a little competition?

[–]satisfyinghump 8 points9 points  (3 children)

But your missing the point. We can't help them out. It seems like the large majority of us are here, because we were hurt real bad, and that changed our perspective on things.

It may be necessary to be beaten down, before we can get up as a different person, while leaving what made us weak on the floor.

[–]zer0nix -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

i can't remember how i found this sub but i was probably linked to it by some redditer making disparaging comments about trp.

i came here to see what's what and i was taken aback by how normal and sensible this place actually is. it's like i've found a tribe of people whom i can identify with. i was raised by asian parents, so in many ways, my mother is red pill, my father is red pill, pretty much my whole family is red pill and i've pretty much always been red pill as well.

people who aren't red pill, even though i haven't always known the name, have always disgusted me, and fortunately they disgust my folks as well.

i don't feel like you have to be wronged or hurt to stand up for what you think is right, or logical. i grew out of the 'appeasement' stage at around age 5, which is when i realized the complete illogic of that frame of mind.

it's so sad that so many of my asian brothers are blue pill as fuck. i don't know where it comes from because the old generation isn't like that. i think it's probably a way to stand out and take ownership of the fact that we are aliens in a western culture. the thing is, of course, they are taking their 'alienhood' in a completely wrong -and alienating- direction.

i come here because i like knowing that there is a tribe of people who are sensible, like myself. i still enjoy seeing what is essentially my perspective reflected and upheld in a place of honor, although i've always felt a bit weird about the idea that people have to be led here or that they have to suffer some tragic fate beforehand. i mean, this is all fairly common sense.

you just have to know what's good for you and what you can accept. primarily, you must accept reality as it is, not as what you wish it 'should' be.

[–]beltwaytr 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I agree with Breeezzz. In my opinion if you see other men as competition then you have a long way to go when it comes to the red pill. Men in today's world get beaten down enough by women to be ridiculed by their own.

If women can band together for nonsense then I think men should to help each other out. I think it's disgusting a women can do the most insane things and have a group of supporters and advocates, yet men rarely get a helping hand up when they get shit on.

[–]Scarlett_Begonias 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I don't know if this is totally accurate. I don't know about what it's like to be a man, but as a woman I can say that I have basically never been "supported" in any way by other women, besides members of my immediate family. I think women see each other as competition in a much more comprehensive way than men do, and as a result, we all fucking hate each other. Most women manage to find one or two very good friends who become like family and can be relied upon not to backstab and whatnot, but it's very difficult to get to that point and to discern which girls will become actual friends. Not that your point is negated by this at all, just saying that women have it at least as bad as men in this regard.

[–]mister_barfly75 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I'd love to help them out. I'd love to make some awesome friends that I could be wingman to. It'd be great.

It's not like that, though.

The Red Pill isn't something you can forcefeed someone, however much you'd like to. From my time on this sub, I've learnt that it's something that can only be taken voluntarily, when you've been by broken by a woman that your world and your view of it has been so irredeemably shattered that you look for something drastic to help you rebuild it.

[–]wunderwaxel 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think there are more reasons why someone is reading TRP, I came here after seeking advice in r/bpd how to handle my bpd girlfriend. Some comment brought me here and I have to admit it works like a charm. Other people may be here because they want to be PUA or just for some different input. You don't need to be broken by a girl.

[–]mister_barfly75 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, you're right, you don't. I stumbled upon this sub simply because I hit "random" one day and browsing through it, I read a lot of stuff that resonated with me about where I was going wrong in life. I was fairly purple pill for a while until a breakup that occurred at the same time as a job loss made me completely swallow the pill. But, you see a lot of posts from guys complaining about the way they were treated by women in their blue pill days, mostly anecdotal evidence of how AWALT, or still in their anger stage and you realise how many are here because they're recovering from a bad break-up.

Besides, the point I was trying to make is that TRP isn't something that you can forcefeed anyone, it's something they have to discover for themselves and chose. There's often a catalyst for it, and it's often a coping mechanism people adopt to deal with that catalyst, so that means that we can't preach or teach the TRP way because we'll largely be ignored until something happens that shocks them awake and opens their eyes wide enough to see how things really are. At that point, we can step in and show a different way, but until then we're merely shouting into the void.

[–]1WishIHadMyOldUsernam 3 points4 points  (0 children)

reddit is a system, /u/overreactor. That system is our enemy. But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

If you are not one of us, you are one of them.

[–]Baylien2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

More like askmoistassniggaz

[–]Dopebear 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Should be renamed to Askbitches. No man worth a damn is going to splurt and believe most the bullshit they throw around over there.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly? I think women go on that sub more than men because they think their feelings opinions are somehow more valuable than solutions.

[–]MelodyMyst 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone needs to create r/askrealmen.

[–]loin_fruit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They disregard this shit and get married to the succubus woman. Later on they wonder why the sex stops and why eventually the marriage falls apart and leads to divorce. She doesn't love you. She loves the alpha cock she couldn't tie down and make into her little bitch.

[–]polysyllabist 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Incoming disillusioned future angry trp rant from other op.

[–]snidecomment69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have been that other guy to girls in long distance relationships, and I can tell you 100% she has fucked him at least once but most likely multiple times

[–]Frankocean2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ANd he ended up breaking up with her.

[–]Endorsed Contributor2comment 98 points99 points  (14 children)

Trickle truth time. How many hops, skips, and jumps before she finally admits she was fucking this other guy?

[–]Poskito 68 points69 points  (12 children)

I imagine she 'won't count' it as fucking

[–]wattwatty 34 points35 points  (2 children)

Yeah: it was only ever anal and on days with an 's' in the name...

[–]Pubic_Lice 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Probably still more often in a few months than the poor guy has gotten in 9 years.

[–]trudenter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Except for those couple times it happened on a Friday

[–]RickDeckard22 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She'll wait until she's married to this beta for a few years then bounce with half his shit

[–]mega_beta 152 points153 points  (8 children)

I stopped reading at 9-year long distance relationship.

[–]TimPartendale 52 points53 points  (5 children)

It's like going into the car dealership for 90 days straight to test-drive the same vehicle before buying it. On the 90th day he realizes there's a faulty transmission, but buys it anyways.

*Edited the analogy.

[–]Epicureanist 8 points9 points  (4 children)

In that scenario at least he's driving the car sometimes. It's more like OP took on a car loan and paid for 3 months of it whilst the car was being built.

[–]Baylien2 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Someone else drives is while hes gone

[–]finalfantasybrownies 7 points8 points  (1 child)

But he still doesn't get the car in the end.

[–]zer0nix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

'ah, but he had the fun of the chase! he went to the dealer, he made the down payment, all fun things for the car dealership -and him! he should be overjoyed that the car found a proper owner.'

...oh man, i don't know whether to laugh or vomit.

ah who am i kidding, i'm laughing. this dude is just ridiculous and so are those blue pilled morons giving advice.

[–]ThirdLegGuy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've read this comment before following the link and yeah, </thread>

[–]foldpak111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I literally loll'd shit was hilarious

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar 139 points140 points  (12 children)

I'm a regular poster at /r/askmen. Here's my RP, non-RP-language response to the guy:

So here's the deal: every single human being has attraction feelings for people outside their serious relationship. This is normal and natural.

The mark of a mature, marriage-ready individual is they don't mention or act on those feelings.

They don't act on the feelings because that would be cheating; they don't mention those feelings because it would only be counterproductive.

This is a major red flag. It shows your fiancee is at least immature and probably also has self-control issues.

At this point, you still have the threat of withdrawing the engagement if she messes up. Once you're married, however, that threat loses its teeth. If she messes up post-marriage, the Western Legal System is happy to give her alimony and half your assets.

Unfortunately, this isn't easy to fix. It's a symptom of a much deeper problem. On some level, this mid-20's kid is a more desirable mate than you are, and your fiancee is reacting to that. Whether or not you stay with this girl, work on making yourself more desirable. Arguing won't effect your fiancee's attraction; so all you can do it improve yourself to the point where you're better than most of the other idiots she could be tempted by.

[–]LifterofThings 72 points73 points  (4 children)

Attraction to people who aren't your partner is totally normal.

Proactively spending time unchaperoned with attractive people with whom you have romantic/sexual chemistry when you're in a monogamous relationship with someone else is asking for trouble.

That dude needs to bin that chick, post haste. Find someone who's mature enough to make the adult decision not to throw herself constantly into temptation.

[–]ilphae 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Find someone who's mature enough to make the adult decision not to throw herself constantly into temptation.

No such woman to be found. I agree with your earlier points, but the solution is not a unicorn. He should improve himself of course, but more specifically he must realize that he failed to properly define himself as a man that can not be cheated on. She thinks he will roll over for this shit, since he is crying for help on AskMen, she is probably right.

Throwing it in his face was a power move and she won. He can surrender (throw her in the bin), and start fresh. Or, he can continue to struggle with his current relationship. The second option does have merit. It's a bitch of a mission, but it seems like this guy needs to sharpen his teeth a bit. Sometimes failed practice is the best medicine.

I agree, NO WAY IN HELL should he marry this one unless he puts in some serious work to regain his self-worth.

[–]LifterofThings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think bare minimum self-awareness is a unicorn-level quality. There's not resisting temptation as it naturally arises through the course of an LTR, and then there is actively chasing it. Different beasts, imo. OP's fiancee is the latter.

[–]KenuR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not to mention that it's a long-distance relationship. Those never work out.

[–]zer0nix 5 points6 points  (0 children)

fucking beautiful. glad to see someone else is spreading knowledge.

[–]Redbeanbags 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Solid response. I feel bad for the guy, having invested 9 years in this relationship but if he doesn't take your advice and instead listens to the betas in that thread it's only going to get worse.

[–]asimplescribe 4 points5 points  (2 children)

A very wordy way to say NEXT. Hopefully something breaks before they get married and he winds up hurt and screwed.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Yeah, you gotta couch the "next"ing in a lot of reasonable rationale to have it make sense to most people.

[–]Overkillengine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They want the decision to feel easy and without personable responsibility attached, instead of admitting they fucked up by getting with such a poorly behaved prospect in the first place. I'd bet the signs abounded from the get go they just don't want to admit to ignoring them.

[–][deleted] 64 points65 points  (8 children)

To be fair to the rare man of askmen, the sub has been taken over by women and male feminists.

For example, I was banned for using the term 'White Knight'. Not calling someone a white knight, just for using it as an explanation to answer a question. Apparently it's derogatory.

[–]1whatsazipper 85 points86 points  (6 children)

Apparently it's derogatory.

That's how you know a social group has been feminized. The PC infestation.

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (5 children)

I was thinking about that last night - I noticed "red pill" being used to describe literally any behaviour that the commenter did not like. The meaning of the words didn't matter, just the attempt at censorship and shaming.

I wouldn't mind people rallying against TRP if they weren't mentally bankrupt when they tried. Or at least attempted to use their words like the supposed adults that they are.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I've seen this all over reddit. People get advice that they don't like and their knee jerk reaction is to try to associate it with us. Sad cause if they would just come read the sidebar their lives would improve so much.

[–]balalasaurus 11 points12 points  (3 children)

That's because the red pill threatens everything that gives them power (for women) or keeps them in the beta state (for men). That level of threat triggers something deep inside that throws all rational thought and argument out the window

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    [–]balalasaurus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Ah but the red pill is more than just knowledge of how society works. It is how society works. It threatens even the ignorant majority on a subconscious level. When someone displays RP traits, betas and feminazis automatically feel threatened, hivemind or not. And besides part of the hivemind is being a slave to a specific force regardless of whether it is understood it or not.

    A bee doesn't question why it has to serve the queen. It just has to and does so. It still feels threatened when a beekeeper tries to breach its hive and goes on the offensive. The same applies here. A white knight won't question why he leaps to the rescue of any and every woman expecting nothing in return. But tell him that nothing in this world is free including relations with women and watch him attack you.

    edit - spelling

    [–]zer0nix 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    i once had a comment deleted because i used the word cunt. i wasn't even talking about women.

    what sort of man promotes censorship? what sort of man lets others dictate what his eyes should see?

    fucking disgusting.

    [–]PolishHammerMK 46 points47 points  (1 child)

    I honestly think that feminists shitpost there pretending to be guys.

    [–]Hoodwink 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    I've had similar thoughts.

    But I also see it in the more general askreddit and sex reddits.

    [–]Entrefut 82 points83 points  (0 children)

    Best way to let her explore her feelings would be to drop her ass. Now she can explore them without constraint for the rest of her life.

    [–]newlifeasredpill 38 points39 points  (3 children)

    If you have any doubts how far along you have come in RP internalization....go browse these subs like r relationships and dead bedrooms.

    You will be blown away

    [–]mister_barfly75 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    I go to /r/relationships on a daily basis just to confirm to myself that I'm on the right path.

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      [–]TogiBear 27 points28 points  (1 child)

      When you left, it created an emotional void in her, which she filled with another guy.


      So according to Ask "Men", another man's penis in your LTR isn't inherently bad, guys.

      [–]DoesNotMatterAnymore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Just like female arousal, the void that needs to be filled.

      [–]2 MRedPillWatchTower 92 points93 points  (5 children)

      When oh when will men learn there is no such thing as a "long distance relationship"?!?! Periodic text messages, FB updates, and phone calls do not constitute a "relationship". When your "girlfriend", "LTR", or whatever has more monthly contact with her hair stylist or the gay guy that does her nails than she does with you, then news flash, you are not in a "relationship".

      You are the phone and internet orbiter whom she relies upon between other, more available options. And the OP of that post just learned that lesson the hard way. And if he thinks this other guy's penis hasn't graced her vagina, he's fucking delusional.

      [–]t21spectre 24 points25 points  (3 children)

      To add, In a long distance relationship there is no sex, obviously.

      What do you call a relationship with no sex?


      [–]tallwheel 17 points18 points  (2 children)

      There is, just only once in a while when one of them goes to visit.

      He's like Santa Claus. He has to travel around the world to empty his sack.

      [–]TravellingIndian 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      He's like Santa Claus. He has to travel around the world to empty his sack.

      Awesome line .. Gems like this make my day

      [–]tallwheel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I can't take credit. It's from a friend who's pretty naturally alpha and enjoys dirty jokes. No idea where he got it from or if he made it up himself though.

      [–]Overkillengine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I never did get those- why invest a bunch of emotions, time, and resources in return for the implication of eventually getting something that you could have had right away from a more available person? It's just deluded.

      [–]DTDtwopoint0 22 points23 points  (2 children)

      I swear people think that romance novels and romantic comedies are based on real life..

      [–]tallwheel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      They aren't, but there are far too many people who try to base their real lives on romantic comedies.

      [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

      I lose Faith in guys having any manhood when I read things like this.

      If your girlfriend tells you she has feelings for some other guy but she is confused, and your immediate reaction is not to break up with her, then you know you have been emasculated and vaginalized.

      [–]pupplenupple 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Long distance relationships are for chumps. In this case I admit my sympathies are 50% with the woman. 9 years and no baby, and no public commitment, and no regular sex, and no shared household. What does he expect a relationship to run on in the long term? Skype and dreams and seeing each other for holidays? A woman is reproductively good for maybe 20 years and he's had half of it and she's got nothing. It is no surprise that at this point she starts looking around for an alternative to him.

      Moral of the story, moving for work is crunch time. Either take her with you and anticipate having to pay her way a while as she looks for work, or set both of you free to look for other relationships.

      [–]foldpak111 107 points108 points  (5 children)

      Whenever a girl tries this shit with me I just say "you do realize there are 4 billion other women in this world" and cut contact. I swear guys are chumps, pussy is everywhere so don't get wrapped up in that disney crap. Faggot

      [–]EurasianAesthetics 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Exactly. Exactly. I personally don't care anymore. If there are chumps like this, more fiances and taken/married women for us :D

      [–]LukesLikeIt 20 points21 points  (1 child)

      Fair enough, but gays can be men too.

      [–]tallwheel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      ♪All around the world there's a hundred billion stupid girls just like you Just begging for nuts to chew♪

      [–]Zazbek 14 points15 points  (1 child)

      Nine years? Nine? If you are at that duration, some part of you has decided you don't really want a live in, close relationship anyway...even if you haven't admitted it to yourself. And if you're cool with it, she obviously isn't because other guy. With billions of other people on this earth, half of them women, there is someone else out there who would actually be willing to move where you are. Depend on it. This guy is a sidecar. A dude in reserve. And he probably helps pay her bills. A reasonable answer is "I hope you'll be happy. Thanks for being honest, anyway. Buh-bye." A better answer, 8 1/2 years prior, is "long distance relationships are not relationships; they are emotional support conversations. And I want more than that. Buh-bye."

      [–]t21spectre 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Well put. After 9 years the guy was still so blind that he didn't realize he was her betabux backup plan. Even after she admits to loving and spending considerable time with some other guy (almost surly having sex with him) he still clings to her. This is what happens when you're a bluepill beta with no options, hang onto the only thing you've got. Don't be that guy gentlemen.

      [–]Aughin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Askmen is now officially confirmed to be a cucknest

      [–]hobodick 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      He posted an update and has broken up with her.

      [–]mykonos_rm 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      I knew something was off with askmen for years now. this shit just further confirms my suspicions that its a blue pill trojan horse

      [–]mykonos_rm 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      I invited him to TRP. It's thanksgiving, I can't just rag on the poor guy.

      [–]PericaPartizan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Oh god, I had such a bad feeling in my stomach reading that.

      I had a similar experience. I had a girlfriend for 6.5 years and what happened was she started to get bored and seek "new friends". Cue her going to frat parties at her University and sleeping over.... My beta self at the time had the inner battle of whether to be controlling or trust her. You can probably guess where it went... she cheated on me, dumped me and found a dude whose family is filthy rich.

      I wish I had this subreddit back then.... At least I can analyze and learn from it. Still... reading that was cringy.

      [–]balalasaurus 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      The talk it through bit is what gets me. YOU CANNOT NEGOTIATE ATTRACTION!

      [–]WhiteTrashInTrouble 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      What they mean by that is "sweetie, when you bang other dudes it makes me feel sad"

      [–]BluepillProfessor 15 points16 points  (0 children)

      I really hope OP doesn't sit down with his girlfriend and start crying or something, though I have the feeling he probably will.

      I was thinking the same damn thing. Dude, WHAT...THE...FUCK.

      And the advice! WHAT....THE....FUCK. This was a new level of disrespect I did not even think a normal human could tolerate.

      And this is the ADVICE.

      [–]zachariusdubeus 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      That's really really tragic. Many things that are developing our young men to think it's okay for his girl to be having strong feelings for someone else and let it slide because it "confusing". They should be certain, otherwise who's to say she won't have this going on again anytime in the future? I'm part of the young men, I'm almost 20, and its sad to know guys are okay with this and have that thought process

      [–]sway_usa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      but it's all so "confusing".

      Of course. She doesn't even understand why she's not attracted to her provider, even though she should be (according to moral and societal standards). This is not something they do maliciously. It's just their lizard brain guiding their emotions.

      That being said, he should next her immediately, because he lost her attraction. That's a given. And the advice in that thread, predictably, is shit. Time to move on, bud.

      [–]2 Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      This is a great example of why we can't hate women--they are what they are and they just need boundaries set by a strong man--but we absolutely can and should hate beta males for being whipped pussies that shelve masculinity and advise other men to snip their own balls. FUCK BETAS.

      [–]1Modified_Hackware 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      It's worse than shelving masculinity they are allowing themselves to be driven by the female imperative to rebrand masculinity into condensed Briffault's law.

      I don't want to date single moms.

      Man up.

      I want to date younger women not this 45 year old.

      Man up.

      She is always nagging me and being a cunt towards me.

      Man up.

      They're rebranding masculinity into "shut the fuck up and do whatever women want from you". It's not passive futility or abandonment of masculinity, it's active erosion and replacement. I agree they should be pussy shamed for being the weak bitches they are.

      [–]Poskito 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      That was... painful to read through. I feel sorry that this guy is so unaware.

      [–]darthsmokey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Seriously I just stopped reading anything on /r/Askmen. I would have higher chances of having a good relationship by marrying the current girl I'm dating without a prenup, than taken any advice from /r/askmen.

      [–]Stopher 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      I really wouldn't sweat it. Talk with her about why she has those feelings. Tell her that it bothers you that she has those kinds of feelings, and talk it out.

      Telling her about it only works in Billy Joel songs. The bright side here is that he has been given warning to abort before marrying this woman. Cut your losses. A basic economic tennant is that you can't recover sunk costs.

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        [–]zer0nix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Wow, you made it this far. I fancy myself a bit of an artist so I guess you found something worth reading.

        ah, you old salt. this was really well written and contained a lot of truth. thanks for posting man.

        [–]PM_ME_UR_GIRLFRIEND 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Wow, you child. Save this post of yours for when you're an adult. Just humor me. Try drugs yourself. If you don't, at least remember what a douche you used to be.

        [–]Grasdaggel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        This girl is dtf. 100 bucks she uses Tinder!

        [–]grngr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I am so fucking glad I found TRP.

        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Guys... If you ever buy a woman a ring, make it one you want to see on her finger. If a woman has to be involved in the ring buying process then she knows (consciously, or subconsciously) she's about to marry an unsure, tasteless schmuck. Not surprised by this story, honestly

        [–]razometer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        1. LD relationship? There's no such thing. One of them is thinking about cheating, the other one does it.
        2. GF visiting another man and admitting that she's attracted to him?yeah, no problem there; as soon as she admits it, she stops being my gf.
        3. Advice from AskMen? Come on, you have to be joking. Does anyone really take advice from a site that advertised Axe body spray?

        I don't even know where to begin with advice in this situation. In fact, there is none to give. If anyone is seriously having doubts when these things happen, you need to look Morpheus straight in the eyes, and take the fucking Red Pill. Otherwise, shut the fuck up, and buy your girlfriend flowers and tell her how understanding you are that she has these feelings and that you'll never come between her and her self-actualization. However, if you know that it's all a pile of useless donkey shit, you know what to do:

        1. Read the side bar.
        2. Monk mode.
        3. When you think you're ready for the real world, read the side bar again.
        4. Monk mode again (for real this time, delete your social media for fuck's sake)
        5. When you can look at yourself in the mirror; and feel nothing but pride, go out there and crush every single obstacle in your path to greatness.

        If you can't do these things, then you might as well give up. After all, any beehive needs plenty of workers for the Queen to thrive.

        (Disclaimer: Queen is not meant as a gender designation, it's a figure of speech to differentiate between leaders and followers, drivers and passengers, alphas and betas)

        [–]we_r_legun1993 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        I know for a fact that the guys giving him these advice don't have a lot of male friends. Any sensible male friend would make fun of you and call you a pussy for thinking like this. It's some bitch ass pathetic shit.

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          [–]HughMannity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Grow a pair and tell the bitch goodbye. Plenty more fish.

          [–]TimmyBuffet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          A lot of people here asking about how bluepill AskMen is, read this thread from yesterday. The top comment you see and most of the comments in the thread as well as the OP's thread were all deleted by the mods. Pretty much the only posts left are inane downvoted ones from posters with the woman gender symbol next to their name. Nice sub bro.

          [–]Ignatius_Oh_Reilly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Woman love to just label whatever they do exploring as some get out of jail free card.

          Here's what any good betting man will assume. She'll cheat (which she has more than likely all ready down), lie to him because she's invested too much, become more distant. He will grow to resent here, leading to two miserable people.

          Trust is the most overvalued trait there is.

          [–]QOTstoneage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Wow, AskMen has really gone down the crapper. That used to be my go-to source for basic-guy advice for years. Never realized how much of their content is over simplified, well packaged, DIY feel good blue pill bullshit. At the same time, some of their articles are pretty fuckin rad.

          [–]macguffin22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Drop her and move on. No woman is worth your dignity.

          [–]occupythekitchen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          That's fucking hilarious, she wants the ring and to fuck the new guy. She's not confused she just wants it all and "fuck" her boyfriend of 9 years

          [–]Movonnow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          The best thing I heard from this is the honesty from your future wife.

          This was too much, I laughed my fucking ass off.

          EDIT :

          She trusts you and loves you enough to tell you the truth.

          This one was even better.

          My God, I can't believe it. Those guys must be some trolls or 12 years-old brainwashed virgins masturbating to porn and praying to have a "girlfriend" one day.

          women should always be given the benefit of the doubt.

          Yeah, I give women the benefit of the doubt but it's on the first time we hang out, before she actually does anything "wrong".

          It's perfectly normal to find other people attractive, or to be attracted to them.

          This actually makes sense. Even when one doesn't have a long distance relationship, the probability of his girl cheating is high. So with a LDR.... This chump should have seen it coming.

          Tl;dr : she rides the cock-carroussel while her boyfriend waits for her. She uses the fact she rides the CC to stimulate her bf's insecurities and to secure him for marriage with promesses like "if we were to get married, I would never do that again because I would be the happiest girl in the world. I saw this guy and yes, we had sex but I didn't know what happened, and it was only once, and anyway it was your fault, you should have made me your wife, it wouldn't have happened if you did so!"

          Tl;dr 2 : he is a beta buck.

          [–]Sirinon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I read this thread earlier today and was dumbfounded, this has all the hallmarks of a girl that is currently cheating or considering it.

          The replies is askmen are a fucking joke, if my partner told me that he had feelings for another man I would instantly end the relationship.

          [–]CUNTRY 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Imagine reversing the roles here and place these answers in Cosmopolitan... can you imagine that?

          Your boyfriend has been spending a lot of time with another woman over the last 6 months and has told you that he finds her more attractive than you... Don't leave! Talk to him. It's normal for him to have sexual feelings for this other woman. It's a good trait that he told you about it! Just talk to him and assume that he has been perfectly faithful the entire time you have been apart. He deserves that much! Don't mess this up for yourself he sounds like a keeper!

          [–]cashmoney_x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          All this shit boils down to humans and monogamy are NOT meant to be.

          [–]strps 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Updated now: guess what, she dumped him.

          [–]Swagzor 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Update right now:

          No explanations at all. Just that 'he needs to move on'. So as you can guess, she probably cheated.

          And all the comments?:

          You did the right thing.

          Really? I thought our collective was to see how it pans out. (downvoted)

          You made the right choice

          Well done dude!

          Seriously.. That subs 180 degrees faster from opinions than a womens emotional state. Not sure if this is BP at work or just plain out stupidity.

          [–]Dorrog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          It's femenine behavior: support the status quo, don't make strong decisions.

          They all knew the answer but did not want to speak direct to him. Trickle truth advice. Now that it is done and they won't have to take any responsibility on the outcome, they tell him that he did right, which is also supporting the new status quo.

          r/Askmen is full of manginas but I would not be surprised if there are lots of women posting as men.

          [–]Lu_the_Mad 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          She is clearly fucking the other guy.

          [–]glassorion 1 point2 points  (9 children)

          I have a friend in a very similar situation, my question is what does the dude do at this point? In standard TRP practice, I would say drop her, till she sorts her feelings out and if she wants to give it another go then start with an alpha frame. Is that even ever feasible? Wouldn't giving it another go automatically qualify as a BP behaviour? Is there any way for this to work out without the dude having a beta stamp on his forehead? Admittedly, it would be super hard to continue to show the results of any self improvement he engages in because of the long distance, and it's more likely to be out of sight out of mind.

          A part of me feels like there is no coming back from this. I'm interested to hear from the more seasoned RedPillers as I've only recently discovered this forum.

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

          There is no coming back from this. If he ever takes her back then she will have no respect for him. Unless she goes 10000% to earn his respect, making massive sacrifices, then this is done. The sooner he realizes it the better his life will be.

          [–]glassorion 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          A part of me agrees 100%. Question for you though, how do you quantify the earning his respect back? Like, how does that even work practically? Do you think it's being extra transparent and considerate etc or something more? Thanks again for your response, super valuable.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          There is no coming back from this. There isn't. If she goes 10000000% to get him back then you will know. That's it. That's all there is. There is no coming back.

          [–]pupplenupple 3 points4 points  (2 children)

          Not everything is redpill or bluepill. Long-distance relationships being fukked up is everythingpill. Distance gets in the way of everything no matter what paradigm you are working from. Trying to show value and fuck her good and hard? Trying to be the bestest bluepill emotional tampon ever with cuddles and gazing into her eyes? Both equally screwed by long distance.

          [–]glassorion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          This is SO true. I read elsewhere on this threat that a long distance relationship is not really a relationship. I guess the problem is, you need to go through that dance to turn it into a regular relationship, without which you may never end up in the same place (dealing with this part myself actually). But inherently, the idea that an LDR can be equivalent is fundamentally flawed, especially if its not a temporary thing and you don't have an end date for it.

          [–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Long-distance relationships being fukked up is everythingpill.

          It's like the "twist to open" label, all the pill bottles have them.

          [–]Workchoices 2 points3 points  (2 children)

          The RP answer is he drops her.

          She has shown recklessness, stupidity and disloyalty by spending alone time with another man that she is attracted to for weeks and hidden it.

          Lets face it, she has also been fucking him. There is no real way to come back from this, and why would you want to? She has shown what she is; a stupid reckless slut. Why would you want a long term relationship with that?

          Next her and find a younger, better model.

          [–]glassorion 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Solid. Taking this to the next step, and you might not have an answer but I figure I'll put it out there anyway - if this is something every girl can be susceptible to given circumstances, there are no guarantees with the newer model either. I guess my question is about second chances and when and under what conditions it makes sense to give someone a second chance, esp if the next person has a similar likelihood of doing the same shit (though I guess you learn to be more alpha with each successive relationship and you're less likely to repeat the same beta behavior that led to this outcome).

          [–]Workchoices 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I dont have all the answers, maybe someone more experienced than me has a better answer.

          Let me be clear: this is 100% the OP's fault. There are so many stupid beta decisions he has made, its no wonder his woman is going after a younger loser that lives with his mother.

          Every woman is like this, just to different degrees. A more loyal woman might not cheat straight away if you made all the same mistakes, but you shouldn't ever be in a position to find this out.

          Whether you want to "fix" things afterwards or not is up to you, but its a significant amount of time and effort on a woman who has already lost all respect for you, and has also proven herself to be a sub-ideal mate. Why would you not just next her?

          In my strong opinion [ and that of many contributors here] once trust like that is broken its futile trying to put it back. You have already lost frame and been cuckolded. She sees you as a fool she can walk over now.

          Hopefully someone else more experienced than me can come along and tell you how to put Humpty back together again if that's the course you absolutely 100% need to take. I know some married guys around here have done it before.

          [–]djthiago1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I can't believe it. I thought Askmen was all about Doc Love, not this beta bs.

          [–]Greekzack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I could not even read the comments because it was like females writing there. These guys need testosterone ASAP. A bunch of estrogen filled betas, I think their menstrual cycles are lining up, damn manginas, more feminist than feminist. It's disgusting.

          [–]emblasochist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          The best thing I heard from this is the honesty from your future wife. People do not find this trait easily. She trusts you and loves you enough to tell you the truth.

          Yes, if your fiancee is honest about the fact that she sees you as low-value compared to another dude, it's actually a good thing! Because honesty. You should go ahead and commit to marriage just for that.

          You're right that you DON'T put a ring on the finger of a girl who is across the country and fucking another guy. I was trying to think of a situation where you could find out that the girl wasn't going to lie you out of convenience and it be a good thing, but if it was that hard to be honest, its because she's doing something she shouldn't be doing in the first fucking place...

          [–]SammyFitch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I really like the guy who gives her props for being honest.

          Clearly beginning of a trickle truth...

          [–]ZergPan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          What do you guys think is the right thing to do in such a situation?

          The biggest thing in a LTR is loyalty and trust. If you can't trust your partner and have doubts about their loyalty and integrity its not even worth pursuing a long term relationship. Assuming he trusts his GF(most people can't tell if someone is or isn't loyal. and also assuming he wouldn't date someone without integrity) the right thing would be to stay with her because a loyal person with integrity would lose all of that just for some guy she just met.

          But knowing most men pick stupid women for a relationship and it somehow evolves into a long term relationship he should be extremely careful and drop her at the slightest sight of disloyalty.

          [–]IndigoCup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Honestly, Askmen is such a bullshit sub. Most of the responders on there aren't even men, they're women.

          Never go for advice there, especially on relatinoships

          [–]zer0nix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          This is just fucking repulsive.

          [–]Brap180 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Funniest thing is, I found TRP from Askmen subreddit

          [–]deville05 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          There is a nine year context here. I think its perfectly natural to feel attracted to someone else when uve been together for that long. Your brain thinks what it thinks, you cant help it and I dont think a simple case of attraction is enough to get worked up over. It really comes down to how long them feelings last and what the person decides to do with it.

          But her telling him is basically "honey i have a problem that concerns you at the core and I dont know what to do and I want YOU to give me a solution" This is a shit test cuz no matter how you answer this one, you loose. Best is to ignore this and be cool or say something like "well since we are confessing, there is this woman at work with whom ive got pretty close for a while now, she is really great and if you are open to the idea, then i think we should just explore possibilities with these new people in our lives. Maybe we could divorce amicably at the end of it and be happy again"

          Lets see how she deals with it when she has to face losses and be responsible.

          [–]Polishrifle 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          This seems extremely butthurt and playing into her frame.

          [–]deville05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Well truth is that you are butthurt so why not give her a dose of the medicine she is peddling. But it wont work if you have low smv n she sees through the bluff. But then again if you have high smv, we wouldnt be here anyhow

          [–]konoplya 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          thats not ask men, thats ask neckbeard cuckolds

          [–]theaudiophiliad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Seems like a great time to tell her to go for a walk.

          [–]masturbator9000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Hands down the best comment:

          When you left, it created an emotional void in her, which she filled with another guy.

          I'm sure she got another guy to fill it. I'm sure she did.

          [–]yummyluckycharms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          askmen should be relabelled to ask maginas......probably the worst place to go if you want valid, actionable advice.

          [–]nuetraveler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          My mind is blown. I honestly didn't think there would be so many people suggesting "counseling, give her the benefit, trust her." Those people are the majority, FFS! Holy shit. I'd break up with her right away, no questions asked. I can't comprehend any other course of action.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I posted to a few comments in the threads telling him to dump her. They deleted each one.

          [–]artemiswasfowled 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          My post might not be visible to all users but I am going to say it anyways, Askmen is a disgrace to all masculine subs out there. The dating advice on there is very blue pilled and the mods abuse their power every chance they get. Mods on that sub will ban you left and right for the simplest bullshit i their minds and plenty of them are crooked and corrupt. The sub is in my opinion, by far, one of the worst male related subs on reddit. With female type subs, I know that I will get blue pill nonsense, AskMen claims to be a male related sub but is run by power abusing and crooked mods that delete any content that is even remotely red pilled. The entire sub has turned into a fucking joke.

          It sucks the most for clueless guys that are getting advice from guys who they think to be masculine men.

          [–]cheesymold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I have a friend who went travelling with his band, the story plays out verbatim. Rather then supplicate to her new emotions, he literally bailed on her (They were living together) within the week. Cut off contact. Cue the hampster. We discussed that her new "love interest" was just spinning her as a plate and she got dumped and now she is wallowing in self pity and guilt. She started contacting him, soon he was getting the best sex imaginable uncoditionally. Now she's offerring him and ultimatum to get back into a relationship. Fortunately rp members, you know how this end up. He tells her NO!

          [–]Endorsed Contributorburningtimber 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          This should be their theme song:

          "I would trust her, I would trust her, by George I swear I would trust her ..."

          [–]LordOfMurderMountain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Yesss... ignore him. I'm just trying to get my dick wet. You can have her back as soon as I'm finished.

          [–]kawanami -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

          OP, quite a sensationalist title there. The women did not in fact say she was more attracted to the other guy, she just said he was cute. You're reading and projecting into this post.

          [–]The_TRP_Account 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          It's in between. From the original post:

          So I just asked her, did she think he was attractive; She said " He was cute." Then I asked her, "Do you have romantic feelings for this guy?" she said, yes, but she was really confused.