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[–]hohamocha 147 points148 points  (24 children)

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The whole world knows what American women are. That is except American men, who are trained to tolerate all female behavior.

Gaylubeoil going for the slam dunk.

Mah nigga

[–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 88 points89 points  (23 children)

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My non-american girlfriend helped me proofread this one.

[–]100Timeswww 76 points77 points  (11 children)

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I've been to 20 different countries in the past 3 years and I gotta say this post isn't accurate according to my experience.

Women in Spain, Italy, France, and Greece all dressed slutty as fuck. They were just as promiscuous as American women as well. Even women in Dubai dressed in extremely tight Yoga pants and shirts although they don't outwardly sleep around.

I lived in New York for a few years and depending on where you hang out, women would dress slutty but decently respectable as well. The only place I can really think of around the US that women dress like complete sluts are colleges and clubs.

The biggest difference between American vs European women is the way they act. American women do about 3x as much hamstering as European women, who tend to be much more blunt and straight forward.

Still, American women suck, European women are superior, sky's blue.

[–]2 Mredpillschool 70 points71 points  (5 children)

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I think /u/gaylubeoil would've been more accurate saying "westernized women" not "american women."

[–]1whatsazipper 27 points28 points  (0 children)

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He likely chose American women because they're the trailblazers of the trend.

[–]Dopebear 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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I was about to ask the same. On here (TRP) I keep seeing "American women this" and "American women that" but it seem as if "Westen/er" is just as applicable.

[–]JovianTrainWreck 6 points7 points  (1 child)

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You know, I keep hearing this and the more I hear it the more worried I am about the spread of this trend. Every time somebody mentions how shitty American women are, there's at least ten European dudes throwing their two cents in, swearing up and down that "our women are just as bad" or "it ain't just American women" etc. How far does this shit have to go before men as collective can convey the message to women that "enough is enough"? How long before there's just no more femininity left? How long before masculinity is extinct?...

Part of me is still in denial about how bad the non-American women could possibly be, I still feel like I'll have to see this firsthand to believe it - I've never left the united states before. Maybe I'm just dumb or stubborn, or maybe it's just beta human nature for some of us to have to see and learn this shit the hard way...

[–]2 Mredpillschool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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I don't have much personal experience aside from foriegn women traveling to the USA. My experience is incredibly limited, but here it is:

  • South African women (from various places) tend to be either really rude, but their accent is fun. They come off abrasively and it appears they don't really attempt to mesh with USA culture.

  • New Zealand and Australian women seem more laid-back and less chomping at the bit to shit test/annoy people with bad attitudes.

[–]Adach 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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yea I'll agree with this, I actually find non-american women to be alot easier, maybe because I usually get so sick of American hamstering that I just give up altogether haha

[–]1BadgerBurger 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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Agreed here. Irish girls dress like straight up whores at the club.

However, they're also a lot more pleasant to talk to than American women.

[–]FeelLikeFlexing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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I've been to 20 different countries in the past 3 years and I gotta say this post isn't accurate according to my experience.

I was just abuot to say this. You if have ever been any where else in the world you would realize that American women are fairly conservative in comparison to some of the Euro counter parts.

[–]phil619 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Try Latin american woman that are catholic, they are at least less likely to cheat from what I have seen, and some try to be fit too, just don't expect 10/10s and in addition their looks tend to fade faster

[–]Endorsed ContributorAerobus 5 points6 points  (7 children)

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girlfriend

I thought you spun plates? Is she another, or is this an LTR? If it's an LTR, I'm impressed. I'd imagine your standards to be high.

[–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 14 points15 points  (6 children)

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Its an LTR and she might be in my youtube videos

[–]robesta 42 points43 points  (4 children)

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Goddammit, I just searched gaylubeoil on YouTube without thinking. You need to link that shit.

[–]bama79rolltide 6 points7 points  (2 children)

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LOL!!! I wish I could have seen your face!

[–]robesta 16 points17 points  (1 child)

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One of the first hits was a shirtless dude with a huge dildo showing advanced jerking techniques. Some shit you just can't unsee.

[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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Fuckin dying here man

I was about to do the same thing as you. Im so glad I read your comment.

[–]klrjhthertjr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Love it man. Sending this post to my girlfriend now, great writing, she should enjoy it.

[–]6Invalidity 198 points199 points  (23 children)

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Entitlements. No responsibility. No accountability. Special privileges granted to them. Immense amount of validation given to them freely. Feminism. Fat acceptance. Slut acceptance. Career driven. Marriage rights: divorce, alimony, and child support all in their favor.

The whole American culture fosters undesirable traits in women.

[–]5 Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 115 points116 points  (7 children)

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And you aren't allowed to talk about it, because of the language control that is political correctness.

[–]Needmofunneh 19 points20 points  (5 children)

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Political Correctness is just another way for the minority to stick their finger in the majority's face and wave it around a little. Fuck being PC.

[–]soulmatter[🍰] 13 points14 points  (3 children)

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Quiet or the PC police will find you.

[–]bluedrygrass 9 points10 points  (1 child)

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I'm even amazed some external media source haven't unleashed a massive bombing on this community yet.

The things we write and discuss here would literally generate strokes if exposed to average brain washed peoples.

[–]JovianTrainWreck 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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They probably know that any amount of mass exposure about us would jeopardize the vicegrip that feminists have on the masses, and increase our numbers.

To a lesser extent, it seems to happen relatively often on reddit alone. Every time there's some huge "controversy" surrounding us, there's a new flood of members. The media clearly doesn't want that.

[–]Needmofunneh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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I didn't notice the sub and was trying to figure out why computer police were after me, lol

[–]thrway1312 22 points23 points  (9 children)

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Every time I get down to real talk with my female friends (I might bang them but I'd never put forth the effort in their current state) about self-improvement, I'm temporarily the worst person they've ever known. Almost all of these discussions result in their thanking me.

[–]6Invalidity 12 points13 points  (8 children)

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What value do you derive from these female friends? You mention that you "might" bang them, which implies some level of attraction to them.

I've never had a conversation with a female ever fruition to anything (ie. them taking my advice). I generally don't offer my advice or my thoughts on anything unless it is absolutely necessary to call one out on their bullshit.

I got over talking to women for validation or feeling as if their friendship was more wholesome than talking to other males. MY conversations with women are strictly for the purposes of amusement or to get something.

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    [–]whitey_male 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    I realized that I'd actually never had an interesting conversation with a woman.

    I have, they are out there but are very rare, and the guys go crazy over them because it would be so awesome to not have a moron for a partner. But they sure know their SMV and abuse it. I mean they were still dumb in that their life behaviours were the same as every modern women, but they had a personality and original thoughts.

    Most academically smart women are just arrogant bores and feminism has told them that that is a personality.

    [–]6Invalidity 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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    There are always exceptions. But to know that we are in the company of an exception, we must have experienced a good sample. Too often does a guy think his girl is a unicorn because he's been with two other girls. There are outliers and it is our duty to discover them. We can't if we don't have a reasonable sample to compare them to.

    [–]trias_e 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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    How old are you (or rather, how old are the women you are talking to)? I think that age plays a huge part in this. I've had immense influence on younger women (seriously, one girlfriend of mine went from hardcore college liberal from fucking Wellesley to basically conservative in my time with her). With older women...good luck with that.

    To be honest, this applies to most people (most people don't really change their opinions after 30), but I've found the change to be more extreme in women.

    Intelligence is a pretty huge factor in this as well: While it's not the case that intelligent people necessarily are open to reason, it is the case that average and below average IQ folks are not.

    [–]6Invalidity 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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    I am in my late 20s. I find the opposite to be true: older women tend to be more open-minded and younger women more stubborn. It's likely the fact that younger women tend to be more prideful while the older women humble themselves so they can come off more friendly.

    [–]thrway1312 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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    While this is far from the typical interactions I have with girls, I view these female friends the way I do my male friends -- I would like to see them in a better place than they are now; sure I might bang them if they were more attractive but they've demonstrated some positive traits that I deem worthy enough to take the time to lay down some knowledge when applicable.

    This also has the two-fold benefit of filtering out those incapable of having an inter/intrapersonally healthy discussion.

    [–]anonlymouse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    I've never had a conversation with a female ever fruition to anything (ie. them taking my advice)

    When I read stuff like this I wonder if I've struck gold multiple times. I have several female friends who, most of the time, will take my advice without argument, and I'll actually see them applying it later.

    [–]colombianguy 16 points17 points  (0 children)

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    That sounds like a pretty sweet deal. How do I sign up for some of that Patriarchical Oppression?

    [–]inlovethenwhat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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    A woman's stock has never been lower.

    [–]AchillesOtherLeg 75 points76 points  (12 children)

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    Tats and body mods really strikes a cord, they act like these things are integral parts of and expressions of who they are. They're meaningless vacuous shit that substitutes for all the creativity and intelligence they failed to develop while being super into whatever passing bullshit is hip this week.

    I sound like an old man but I'm not and I've thought like this since I was a kid.

    [–]DexterousRichard 13 points14 points  (0 children)

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    I have been appalled by this the last few years. The next time I see some girl with a stupid tattoo, I'm going to compliment her on it.

    I like your tattoo. It's very manly.

    [–]PhilipeNegro 26 points27 points  (3 children)

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    Tats and body mods really strikes a cord, they act like these things are integral parts of and expressions of who they are. They're meaningless vacuous shit that substitutes for all the creativity and intelligence they failed to develop while being super into whatever passing bullshit is hip this week.

    Every accomplished artist I've ever had the pleasure to meet dressed somewhere between an off-duty doctor and a casual college professor. I've long believed that people burn creativity and subsequent productivity by dressing themselves up as someone more interesting.

    To quote my illustration professor: "More people in this place spend more time trying to look like 'artists' than fucking making art."

    [–]needless_pickup_line 15 points16 points  (1 child)

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    I agree completely. I minored in fine arts in college (yeah yeah I know), and it was always the least talented girls who dressed up the most. Like wearing fur coats, bandeaus, and stripper heels to fucking drawing class.

    [–]Casanova-Quinn 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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    I can confirm this too, I went to an art school (no non-art related majors). The more tattoos, piercing, and hipster/odd clothes you wore, the more likely you didn't do shit except drink and smoke.

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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    off-duty doctor and a casual college professor

    Aww fuck that explains my fashion sense. One of my friends once described my style as, "always dressed for golf."

    Went to art school. Can confirm. It was always the most "uniquely" dressed people who thought they were stylish artists that were always the least talented. People like me who basically wore my uniform to school because I didn't have any time to change were the exception. One girl asked me one day, "why do you wear that symbol of oppression? you look like a post office worker!" Bitch, film is expensive.

    [–]Turkerthelurker 15 points16 points  (2 children)

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    It's totally absurd. Of people under 30, more people have tattoos than do not. Of those, I'd say maybe 10% have a meaningful one; the rest are trivial bullshit.

    It's insane that by not having permanent body art, you are in the minority (but I quite like it).

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    more people have tattoos than do not

    Where did you find this statistic? Just curious. It seems a bit embellished. I know there are lots of people who have them now, but most of the young population? I doubt it.

    [–]Turkerthelurker 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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    I had come across that number in an article, but I can't find anything to back my claim up - and it looks like I was wrong.

    This site has some interesting statistics. Looks like within the 18-30 age group, about 40% have tats.

    [–]aazav 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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    Tats = look at me. I'm dangerous. But look at me.

    [–]Sizzlecheeks 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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    ...and, in general, the less your have accomplished in your life, the more you will feel the need to draw pretty pictures all over your body.

    Most people just do not get that it's your actions that give you weight.

    [–]Overkillengine 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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    "Don't say things. What you are stands over you the while, and thunders so that I cannot hear what you say to the contrary."

    -- Ralph Waldo Emerson

    [–]FullRegalia 55 points56 points  (1 child)

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    It’s a tool for someone who is so devoid of substance that she has to disfigure herself to get attention.

    Genius.

    [–]teeelo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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    There's this one girl I work with- very chill, responsible, happy and more or less well liked among every one. She is probably a 2 or maybe 3.

    I overheard her talking about the battles of car payments and trying to save up for school, but also really really wanting to get 'that' tattoo!

    I don't think she will go through with it unless some money conveniently falls into her lap. (Which would be better spent on school)

    [–]rpdoomed 39 points40 points  (0 children)

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    American women have dug themselves into a deep hole and declared it a mountain top.

    This really hit home. It's so true. I see it on a daily basis. Women here are so proud of themselves for being such whores. They see giving out their pussy like a buffet as being strong and independent. Their behavior reminds me of a child rebelling against its parents. A child becomes so angry at the fact that there are rules that it rebels and does the exact opposite without considering the fact that there may be some sense and logic as to why the rule exists.

    [–]FullMetalSolidSnake 23 points24 points  (8 children)

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    Buddy I can assure you British girls are the same . Its not an American thing its a global western thing . And were heading for the worst

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      [–]MagicGainbow 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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      Especially Sydney apparently.

      [–]teeelo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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      If you go far enough west, you'll find Australia somewhere.

      [–]bluedrygrass 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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      Well, for starting, it is known that females from Sweden are among the worst concievable. Masculinity is a crime there.

      [–]chakravanti93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      Fucking sweden. Somewhere, Thor is fetching his hammer and muttering apocolyptic obscenities while Odin just nods.

      [–]u_fukn_wot_m8_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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      Can confirm: Canadian girls are the same

      [–]Dreamtrain 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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      As much as we mexicans love sex, you ask anyone about american tourists in mexican beaches and a recurring theme is about how slutty the american women can be.

      [–]chakravanti93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      You know it's bad when Mexican Men complain about white women being sluts.

      And marijuana isn't even legal yet.

      [–]TheeRyanGrey 22 points23 points  (0 children)

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      My job is dealing with rich foreign men looking to flash their wealth. The #1 reason they come to America, the #1 reason they come to our nightclubs is American Women.

      It's not even close. Our rules are stricter, our stuff more expensive, but it doesn't matter, they know with a quick flash of cash they can be finger blasting, titty sucking, dick getting grabbed all within 10 minutes.

      It's an absolute feeding frenzy for them.

      [–]Theophagist 35 points36 points  (13 children)

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      People act like anywhere else in the world has a culture that makes good women. They think they're going to find their unicorn in the Asian countries, that's a joke. How about England? Sure if you want a hairy alcoholic. Eastern bloc? Dream on. Canada? Too American. France? They have laws stopping men from getting paternity tests, I'll bet their women are the best.

      While you make a great case against the American woman and I don't disagree with anything you said, it suggests that there is a demographic producing perfect wives while ignoring the fact that women, people in fact, are shitty everywhere.

      [–]kanaduhisfruityeh 7 points8 points  (4 children)

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      It seems that in some places it is easier to find more physically attractive women who are "nicer" (or pretend to be), at least in the short term.

      [–]sagarsash 10 points11 points  (3 children)

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      Not at all. They only appear nicer because they are interacting with a foreigner (you). Otherwise they would give you the same shit any American woman gives you.

      [–]kanaduhisfruityeh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      It doesn't really matter for short-term relationships. I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that "foreign women" are any worse than "American women". So if they're going to treat me better and hotter ones have sex with me, then they get the cookie.

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      It all depends. Are you a tourist cruising the bars? Yeah, you're gonna find a gold digger. Have you been living there? Do you care at least slightly about the culture, language, mentality of the people? Then you'll find a great girl.

      Source: Been living in the Eastern Bloc for numerous years.

      [–]sagarsash 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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      It's not just about gold digging. It's about being exciting and unique for the girl. No matter how much of a tool you are in America, you'll still be perceived as a great catch in other countries because you're different and fresh.

      [–]elchoma90 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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      Americans take the trophy. And Brazilians and Colombians tie for second place. Those are big sluts too.

      [–]Dante-S 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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      While you make a great case against the American woman and I don't disagree with anything you said, it suggests that there is a demographic producing perfect wives

      That's a huge leap. To say that American women are among the worst simply means there are better options out there, not perfect ones. 1/100 odds of finding LTR/marriage material may be shitty in absolute terms, but it's less shitty than 1/1,000

      [–]Theophagist 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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      Assuming those odds represent reality, how useful are they? They aren't going to help you calculate the proper mate. You're still going to be subject to trial and error, close scrutiny of behavior, personal history of both parties.. There are too many factors that go into partnering up for those odds to be relevant.

      Unless of course you can say that the majority of women of country X or culture Y are good wife material. Which you can't. Regardless of upbringing, women are still going to be hypergamist, solipsistic status-seekers.

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      I think if someone wants a formula to 'calculate' their proper mate, they should head on over to /r/okcupid

      [–]bluedrygrass 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      Women are whores everywhere, but some places still have cultures that holds them at least in part responsible for their actions, and that disregards slutty behaviours.

      Those place simply haven't been contamined too much (yet). For example, most asian females still lives under pretty strictly behavioural standards, of course in the big cities you're always gonna find occidentalized whores and gold diggers.

      Also, take one of those "good" survivors, put her in a mentally corrupted ambient, and sooner than later you'll have your occidentalized whore.

      [–]1niczar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      France? They have laws stopping men from getting paternity tests, I'll bet their women are the best.

      The reason for that that has nothing to do with feminism. It's rooted in the traditional (and completely non-religious) French legal view of marriage/family.

      Furthermore there is no child support to pay if there is no husband and the biological father does not sign the birth certificate. (The exception to that is if you impregnate a woman from another EU country where there is child support. I know of a case where a German woman got knocked up by a French man, she sued him in Germany for child support, and because of EU treaties he had to pay up. It made the news because it's completely alien here, people didn't even know that was a thing.)

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        [–]1whatsazipper 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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        Women defer to the herd in the absence of strong male leadership in their life.

        You can see this with things like eating habits, even sexual behavior. Watch women suddenly become vegans without knowing why, or suddenly becoming bisexual or "lesbians" despite a history of heterosexual relationships.

        They have fluid identities.

        [–]gmflag 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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        Traveling abroad to Asia and Europe opened my eyes earlier this year to this truth.

        [–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

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        The American definition of sexy is the Mexican street hooker’s definition of business casual.

        Have to say that was pretty funny.

        [–]saucey_cow 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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        I absolutely hate body piercings. My ex was planning on getting a tongue piercing, nose piercing, and a belly button piercing(I even think she said she wanted a lip...). When I asked "Why?", the only thing she could say is "Because I like it." All she was doing was devaluing herself. Having a bunch of metal in your face/body decreases your femininity, and as such, your attractiveness.

        It's just gross. Why the fuck would you want to be dating someone who is filled with a bunch of metal?

        Heck, I might as well go and make myself a fleshlight made of steel!

        [–]ManOfGrapes 28 points29 points  (7 children)

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        The United States has reached a tipping point of social decline from which there is no going back.

        And this is the real kicker. What happens now? Who the hell knows, but I'll tell you this much: I'll never settle down with an American woman that isn't a virgin.

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        They'll lie to you about that. I'm not going to settle with any girl who went to college...

        [–]thrway1312 6 points7 points  (2 children)

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        Alternatively, girls that were ugly ducklings until after school. While not foolproof due to the attention-craving nature of women, some actually focused their energies inwards during the educational years; practically a virgin.

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          [–]teeelo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          I fuckin know what you are saying. The fuck are you supposed to game a chick with a stimulating conversation if they can't carry one?

          The smarter ones act like they know you're just trying to game them and put up a bitch shield. It's at this time you maintain frame and be cool shit until she can trust you a bit better.

          [–]lonmoer 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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          an american woman virigin? never heard of such a thing

          [–]Dreamtrain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          'll never settle down with an American woman that isn't a virgin.

          As often seen in the sex and relationships subs, these women can be prone to start wondering how sex would be with other men or more accurately "What am I missing out on?". Specially when they have girl friends who went overseas and had a fling.

          [–]a_nus 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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          I'm not from the US and I have lived in several different countries. I can confirm the rest of the world, both men and women, view American women as slüts.

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          libertine in ass-out cutoff shorts.

          Kenyan women know better than to wear something like this out on the streets in broad daylight. Women deemed to be dressed indecently have, in the past, been stripped naked by vagrants, beaten and publicly shamed. In my country there is literal slut-shaming. Is it rather extreme? Yes. Is it effective? I certainly wouldn't tempt fate by going out on the streets of Nairobi dressed like a

          Mexican street hooker’s definition of business casual

          ...so yeah.

          [–]2jagrmeister721 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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          I've always wondered if men inadvertently "shit-test" women we're interested in, by talking them into bed. The ones that give in and blow you in your SUV outside the club the night you met them fail the shit-test; they provide us entertainment but you'll never wife them up. Just a stray thought- but I think we may be seeking two things: 1) For them to hold us off (a bit) and treat it more like a get-to-know-you LTR (or at least not hook up the first night), and 2) Show us they offer more than their sexuality.

          Almost like women who shit-test men into being beta manginas; secretly hoping men push back and demonstrate their value. Without traditionalism and traditional gender roles, women are failing this male shit-test en masse. Or it may be American women realize in forfeiting their femininity, they secretly know they don't have anything more to offer than pussy?

          [–]Bammer1386 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          Kinda funny you say that. I totally use bedding a woman on the first night as a "shit test." Kinda sucks in a strange way when you're totally feeling a chick, clicking like crazy, and she's easy, because you know she's not going to be anything more than a plate to spin if she sitting on your dick within a few hours. Then again, you've got another plate, so win-win I suppose. Just recently though, I've been wondering if the girl was really that easy, or if my game study and practice has become so effective, I can't fault her for sleeping with me. Maybe that's also me gaining confidence, thinking "Damn right she came home with me! I'm funny, smart, attractive, and cool to be around." Crazy how a little inner game and kino work magic.

          [–]icyhot39 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          Yes, fucking on the first date/night is used as a filter.

          The problem is that women aren't ignorant of this. When they want to 'settle down' they often begin to refuse to repeat their old pattern of promiscuity.

          Of course we all know better than to fall for that game.

          [–]junin16 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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          Brazilian women are worse, believe me...The kind of shit i already saw is disgusting

          [–]Szos 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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          Wholeheartedly agree. But I think its not just American women that are to blame. American men are just as bad - in different ways - as well. Its one of the reasons why I have almost always had better and closer relationships with immigrants or at least children of immigrants. Seems that too many of those that have a long lineage to this country lose their minds or morals, or both.

          [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          Yea im the same way. Most of my friends are immigrants or children of.

          [–]KnightHawkz 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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          Unfortunately America is a huge exporter of its culture. Not all aspects are bad but Ireland and UK while not as affected are getting more and more Americanised.

          I'm not hating on American culture here its just sad to see your own slip away.

          [–]MagicGainbow 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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          Not all aspects are bad but Ireland and UK while not as affected are getting more and more Americanised.

          It's not so bad, the uni chicks from America are easy pickings, i've even heard the ''this is Europe and I want to find myself'' excuse...I fucked her while her fiance sat about back in Asheville.

          [–]KnightHawkz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          So easy! But everyone on holiday is easy.

          What I mean is the slut mentality, no side effects from bad behavior, has creeped into the psyche of UK/Irish girls. Brain washed with movies/books the same way as American girls.

          Now, I have nothing against sluts, I embrace them they serve a great purpose and are comfortable in sexuality, but if they try to come off as more superior, I let them know of their place.

          [–]i_meant_lulz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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          Most important parts that stand out to me personally are:

          There aren’t yoga pants labia parades in London and Paris like there are in LA and New York. Most of the world’s women take pride in wearing heals and flowing dresses. Americans, take pride in being slovenly in PJ’s or libertine in ass-out cutoff shorts.

          They have no interest in heeding calls for moderation and anyone who tries to help them is guilty of fat/slut shaming.

          American women are most class-less women on the planet. Living in New York City is dreadful because I see this behavior everywhere I walk around... "Oh I can walk around in sheer leggings showing my panties and ass to everyone, but you better not stare at me because you're a creep!"

          Feminist are the worst because they're the most delusional, it's sad seeing this mentality being popularized in the UK from the U.S.

          [–]bat_mayn 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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          There is nothing you can do about it. It's been engineered this way - all part of the plan. You can think that you will personally seek out a responsible woman, with integrity - which is good - but there will be 1,000 to your one example who want nothing more than to go out every night and get drunk, get pregnant, etc.

          This sort of behavior is a filthy breeding ground for sociopathy and abject cruelty. If you think people are apathetic and selfish right now, you just wait.

          [–]bluedrygrass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          So true unfortunately, we aren't even close to touching the bottom. Dark times are coming.

          [–]Lakistar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          "American women have dug themselves into a deep hole and declared it a mountain top." This is why i love your posts, you are a great writer in sense of style and message.

          [–]1angrydad 6 points7 points  (4 children)

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          "The American definition of sexy is the Mexican street hooker’s definition of business casual."

          As good as this post is, that one line sealed the deal for me. Well done, sir.

          [–]teeelo 0 points1 point  (3 children)

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          I'm not going to lie, this analogy kind of went over my head can you give me an idea of what I should picture in my mind?

          [–]1angrydad 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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          Imagine a hooker. Now imagine a Mexican hooker, where the going rate is lower and the goods are of a quality to match the lower rate. Now imagine she can dress even more casually than she normally would on Fridays. This is what American women think of as sexy. Op is trying to illustrate that they rely on slutiness for attention instead of intelligence, confidence and decorum. It's a bit of a generalization, but it does have merit.

          [–]teeelo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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          I picture a Mexican hooker looking trashy as fuck, am I off the mark here?

          [–]jadedspade 18 points19 points  (0 children)

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          The United States has reached a tipping point

          http://i.imgur.com/totU9QI.jpg

          [–]PabloEasyGo 9 points10 points  (2 children)

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          I am Spanish, and thanks to a great decision from my parents they sent me for my senior year to PA for a year to finish high school. First of all I must say that my knowledge of the language was far from good, but 3 months in, after I started thinking in english all went super smooth. I was virgin and man, fucking in the states is the easiest thing to do in the world. After getting confortable I was hooking up with girls twice a month, when I had 0 experience, it was great. It was so common, and with no slutshame, by the end of highschool if you hadnt fucked it was seen as a huge failure.

          Pretty different from my country

          [–]zeroms 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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          No se donde viviras pero aqui se pincha mas que en estados unidos. He vivido en los dos sitios muchos años. En España son mas directas, y ser rollo o follamigos es mucho mas comun.

          "I don't where you live but here people fuck more than in the USA. I've lived in both places many years. In Spain they are much more direct/blunt, and to be FBs is much more common".

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          Si, me referia en el instituto, vivo en madrid. De todas formas la cosa ha cambiado bastante, con solo 5 años las chicas estan descontroladas, y cuando crezcan seran igual que las guarras americanas.

          True, I was talking about highschool tho, i live in Madrid btw. Anyways things have changed a lot in just a spam of 5 years, teenager girls are out of control, and will become just like american sluts.

          [–]Tombstone31 7 points8 points  (4 children)

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          I say, stop bemoaning what you don't have, and look around at what you do. Easy sex with no commitment? I'll gladly be a ride on the cock carousel for as long as it lasts.

          [–]kanaduhisfruityeh 2 points3 points  (3 children)

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          It depends on whether you're the guy who is banging the young slutty hot ones or the guy who the older ones are trying to get to be their beta bux'er. In the former case it is great. In the latter case, not so much. On the other hand, everyone can enjoy the skimpy clothing, as well as the half naked girls on TV/internet, and full naked girls in pron. (Although they may call you a creepy eye-rapist for looking at their bodies in public).

          [–]ProjectShamrock 6 points7 points  (2 children)

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          I don't think what you've posted here only applies to women, as others have pointed out. As an American male, I don't really like being friends with most of the people I've met either. They're usually overweight, whiny, too into watching sports on TV as a substitute for their own manhood, and delusional. Don't get me wrong, I'm far from being a lumberjack with an eyepatch who surfs on the back of a shark, but I'm not like them either.

          So what do we do to fix things? I am a father, I'm raising boys and a girl. My wife isn't American, but nor is she completely passive. Maybe some day I'll share my RP story when I have time but like everything else in life you have to struggle and fight to make things better for yourself and your family. That's a big part of what being a man is to me.

          Overall though, I'd say that the American people are going through a phase which I think will not last another generation. The reality is that times are getting tougher, and maybe what comes with my children's generation will be more like that of my grandparents' generation (although hopefully no nuclear world wars.) However, the current generations are pretty self-centered, overly-emotional, and have made themselves fragile because there has been too much success and wealth in this country.

          [–]Adach 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          I've got a very similar outlook, you hit the nail on the head.

          [–]teeelo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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          Society is like a seesaw as generations go by, GLO says it has tipped too far and will not be able to fall back the other way.

          [–]30INCHBICEPS 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          Australian checking in.. Can confirm the same about our locals. And it's only getting worse (well easier for a ONS, worse for LTR prospects)

          [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (7 children)

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          Ha! I couldn't have said it any better myself! Born and raised in America, and it is a trash dump of a society. The old saying is, "art initiates life". When shows like Jerry Springer, and Maury Povich became popular in the 90's, I knew we were fucked.. all standards, and self respect died in those days IMO..

          [–]1FrogTrainer 4 points5 points  (4 children)

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          The saying is "Art imitates life"

          [–]ghosthustler -1 points0 points  (3 children)

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          No, it's "life imitating art." The idea is that it's surreal that something real is mirroring something fictional. Like if something happened in real life that was on an episode of the simpsons.

          [–]1FrogTrainer 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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          Art imitates life, and life imitates are are both "sayings".

          Art initiates life, isn't.

          [–]teeelo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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          There are plenty of caring loving women who would make wonderful wives and mothers.

          I have a strong feeling this part will be conveniently overlooked by the majority of feminazis and manginas.

          TRP doesn't hate Women, we do however despise manipulative, narcissistic, selfish, soul crushing, (etc) PEOPLE and a vast majority of western Women have adopted many of these negative characteristics.

          [–]Strongproudwoman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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          I'm from Canada. I just want to add Canada is the same..... Incase someone is reading America as just United States.

          [–]bertstare10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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          TFW more jacked than gaylubeoil

          [–]The_Fart_Of_God 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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          It's not exclusive to american women. Most travelling westernized women act like this.

          You go to a new place, you can have a fresh start, and suddenly fresh meat, fresh meat everywhere.

          [–]1niczar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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          Let me tell you about that American exchange student I dated a long time ago. I met her at a party. I hadn't noticed her even though she was really hot, she approached me. Why? Turns out she had overheard me singing "American Woman ... stay away from me-eee" and commenting on how they're all fat and cunty. She thought I was talking about her.

          She had a big photo album (that was before Facebook) with all her dates from highschool and college. Guys who would supplicate to her, pay for dates (which I never did, needless to say), and of course, go nowhere. She was 21 and still a virgin. Later she showed the album to me very proudly, detailing all the dates. Fucking weird.

          Well I kept being an asshole to her, not because I like being an asshole but because I have crippling anxiety (GAD) and the only way to keep my head out of the water is to overcompensate, and not take anything seriously. I had never had a long term relationship yet, just many one night stands because I had no fucking clue what to do in a relationship. I was so used to fucking on the same day, because it was either that or big time friend zone, that I behaved as if it was gonna be a one time thing, so, I just behaved as if she was down to fuck. The first night we did everything oral, she wouldn't fuck but hadn't told me she was a virgin. The second night she told me as I was entering her, which was kinda weird.

          I feel bad because I was terrible to her (not mean in any way though), but to my credit, I was even more terrible to myself.

          Anyway, any time I see beta behavior I keep thinking about all those chumps wining and dining her and going nowhere, probably fapping furiously after coming home from their date with her.

          She's not the only American woman I've been with, by far. Tourists and foreign students are easy, but Americans are definitely the easiest. Especially compared to, say, Spanish women (never had success with Spanish women for some reason :( ), who tend to be actually much stronger in character.

          American view of sex is so easy to subvert. For example they place a mythical value on their punani all the while considering themselves virgins even though they've gone down on the whole football team. There's other cultures (muslims) where virginity is valued, but it's valued socially, not for themselves directly. So when you tell a liberal American woman that her vagina is not getting her free drinks, or when you laugh at the claimed virginity of a conservative one, major insecurity surfaces. Her whole self worth crumbles, and you can easily pick her up from the rubble.

          [–]reddiforlove 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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          I been saying it, I been saying it for 10 damn years.

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          New Zealand and Australia fall into the the same category, sadly. We're left wing enough that we complain about America, but it doesn't stop women from feeling the group pressure of seeing other women behaving badly.

          They're like a flock of seagulls eating chips and cigarettes in a park - all impulse and group mentality.

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          You can find women here that don't subscribe wholeheartedly to the secular whore culture; You'll probably have to go to church to find any of them though.

          As for being unable to fix it we haven't really tried, I'm pretty sure fixxing it would be as simple as just getting most men to hold women to the same standards our fore fathers held them to.

          One dick before me and a wife you'll never be. OR. You can't make a ho into a house wife.

          Change the laws to trim their safety nets so that only the women who need help can get those safety nets and the women who lie about being abused in marriages get sentenced for perjury.

          Just hold them responsible for being cunts and maintain frame.

          [–]hellooo_ 2 points3 points  (15 children)

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          Although GayLubeOil has taken the time out to write what could be misconstrued as a thoughtful, well documented piece of writing, his work constantly involves logical fallacies, hasty generalizations, and no concrete proof other than what seem to be large assumptions with bits of "truth" sprinkled in.

          And yet, everyone here eats this shit up.

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (6 children)

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          It's because we already know it's true. This shit is a fluff piece and all of us besides the moral crusaders know this.

          [–]hellooo_ 1 point2 points  (5 children)

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          I understand that, as he is constantly posting this shit. But if this is a shit fluff piece, along with his other "work", why does it keep getting up-voted and posted?

          [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (4 children)

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          It's good for the new people who are in particularly angry places to feel validated that they aren't just crazy, like everyone in their lives has implied or outright stated that they are. This shit is the calm in the storm for those who aren't ready yet.

          [–]hellooo_ 3 points4 points  (3 children)

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          So it's an effort to preach to the choir? That people are coming here, feeling angry that their date/girlfriend/wife is acting like a whore, and want to feel like they aren't alone? Basically like an echo-chamber?

          [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

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          Parts of it, sure. Considering this community is vilified and the perspectives of a lot of the men coming here are too, there does need to be some degree of feel-good crap.

          [–]hellooo_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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          Thank you for being civil about this. I mean, I'm sure I subscribed for the same reason you and a lot of other bros did. We get on women for posting feel good/circle-jerk shit in 2X, and if we're supposed to be different (or even as far as saying better than them), how does this kind of stuff bode well for us?

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          Not a problem. Every community has issues, acknowledging them is the only way to fix them.

          [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

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          Travel anywhere abd ask men what their impression is of America women

          [–]ultrasuperthrowaway 4 points5 points  (6 children)

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          Been to 26 countries and European women make American women look like prudes.

          Have you even been to a beach on the Mediterranean? You'll freak out.

          [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 5 points6 points  (5 children)

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          Its not about nudity its about openess to sex

          [–]ultrasuperthrowaway 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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          I've had sex during one night stands with females from Holland, Spain, Italy, Romania, Turkey, India, Thailand, China, Japan, Australia, Argentina, Brazil, Columbia, Mexico and Canada.

          I don't see how it's just American women

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            [–]ultrasuperthrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            I doubt I'll get to them all but I had a nice sampling ;)

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            Just my two cents, when you talk about the women in Paris, they are not more elegant, chic or pretty than American women. If I compare to CA, I would say it's even worse mainly because a lot of women have this Bobo look (I think you call that boho), look at pics of charlotte gainsbourg to see what I mean.

            And French women are WAY WAY more bitchy than American women. At least you can talk to women in CA, they listen to you without showing you how little interest they have in you, they are polite. Women in France are fucking bitchy, entitled like there is no tomorrow, very often feminist, never look at you (or maybe I'm just super ugly) but maybe more interesting to talk to, here in the US, women are nice and friendly but gosh if you want to talk about something else than party, vacation, apartment decoration, they have no conversation.

            The only thing is women in France are not (yet) big fat disgusting pigs like in Los angeles (yes Mexicans ladies I'm looking at you). In LA even the Asian women can be fat, it makes me so sad... I swear I was at a party last week, with approx 20 mex women and 20 men, ALL the women, all of them where what I would call obese to morbidly obese, the most obese one was eating potato chips and sour cream the entire time.

            Anyway, I really paint everything with a broad brush here (except the fat part) but it's sometime my feeling.

            [–]joncho 1 point2 points  (26 children)

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            Im not sure your typical western european women is any better than Americans but I lack ecperience on the other side.

            [–]Niemamnick 8 points9 points  (3 children)

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            Western European are just as slutty. They are just less open about it.

            Western values not even once.

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              [–]aazav 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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              What do they call female chavs these days?

              [–]Sturmgeist781 6 points7 points  (4 children)

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              When I visited Berlin, all I managed to snag were fellow American tourists. German women I encountered weren't nearly as easy as American women.

              I'm still chasing that item on my bucket list.

              [–]OMG_TRIGGER_WARNING 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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              You should ahve gone to Spain to get a German woman.

              [–]100Timeswww 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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              That's because you were American. If you were basically anything else (as long as you were caucasian) you would have done much better.

              [–]kanaduhisfruityeh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              I would assume that western European women are similar to American women, except with lower obesity rates (outside the UK, which is almost as fat as the US). On the other hand, an American guy might get an "exotic foreigner" boost in his attractiveness with women in Europe.

              [–]anonlymouse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              Assuming we're not counting the UK in Western Europe, they're not fat and better dressed.

              [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (12 children)

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              Its a spectrum. Western European women are more influenced by american culture than other women. However your not going to see what you see in America. European party cities cant compare to vegas.

              [–]Niemamnick 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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              Las Vegas is a Dantesque infernal scene made real.

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                [–]teeelo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                That's really amazing to hear Man, good for you and her.

                [–]IamAwaken 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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                Nice I was wanting to post something similar. Glad you beat me though. My posts suck compared to yours. Anyway...

                It feels more like denial than ignorance. American women act exactly like whores, but won't accept it is true. Many men see the problem and don't know what to do like you say. A friend's wife was telling me she had been working out and I told her, "good keep it up! Don't stop it's so good for you!" And she immediately said,"ARE YOU SAYING IM FAT?" Thanks to TRP handled it fine, but I feel bad for my friend.

                It is amazing the level of denial that women have combined with their conditioning that nothing is their fault and they should be accepted. What would happen if enough men refuse to marry this sort of trash?

                Apparently in Norway things have already started to change. The sidebar link "Gender Studies Is Nonsense" had one video where they mention you to people in Norway are returning to conservative values. They find it odd since it is perhaps the most gender equal country of all. Sorry I can't remember which video it was.

                It's a pleasant thought though that perhaps one day everyone will see how ugly this shit is. Norway is not USA though.

                [–]monkeycycling 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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                Thanks to TRP handled it fine, but I feel bad for my friend.

                care to ellaborate?

                [–]IamAwaken 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                Sure, but this might get a little long if I'm not careful.

                He is 29 making over 100k a year. He's rather attractive, but no muscle or real confidence ever. Senior year a guy hit him in the balls for no reason and he just chickened out after acting like he was going to do something. Chicks dig him, but he's way too non-aggressive.

                So he got married recently like I said. Basically it's looking like the general nightmare. BEFORE marriage they were going to counseling. The counseling is favored for the girl from what he told me.

                The girl was going to lose weight for the wedding... Looks like she gained a bit more. This is how that topic came up though and she basically said she was gaining weight. Her instant response seemed to indicate she was told this before by him.

                I didn't know her at all before they got married. Apparently they were "friends" and he hated the guy she was dating before him. So basically he was a beta orbiter to this alpha it sounds like. Thing is SHE is the one telling me these things... which are kinda emasculating.

                As the night goes on she is basically shit testing him left and right and he's failing every single one. This is the worst thing I saw. He was walking away from her left. To her right was a trash can. She holds out her plate and asks him to throw it away for her.

                Also she rode that alpha cock till 26. That's when they got serious i guess. Sounds like they have had problems that he basically resolved by saying, "you can't act like this if you're going to be my wife" more or less. She only had college to teach education iniforgetwhatgradewhocares. It all reads so textbook that I want to make bets on how long it will last.

                I really want to get TRP to him, but it's so textbook that I don't know if I can find a way to reach him. He's a really busy guy and I don't think he'll have time to sit down and read this stuff. Also don't ever see him to give him advise.

                Also it sounds like she gained 40+ lbs after losing her alpha cock. She's the same age as him. Her parents have a terrible marriage, but stay together. Maybe I'm slightly biased since I want the best for my friends, but he is far out of her league in a lot of ways.

                She is really wearing him down. My little bit of TRP basically let me rule their world to my liking. Maybe I'm top 1% (fuck ya I am!) but from that moment it just looks like a total time bomb to me.

                This last part is all speculative, but I have a bad feeling that she cheated on him earlier on in their relationship. I brought up something about another friend having that happen and he didn't react normally. It was late though so I'm hoping this intuition is really fucking wrong. I don't ignore my voice though.

                P.S. WHY THE FUCK IS MY OTHER POST DOWNVOTED SO HARD? I HATE U GUYS! and there went my frame.

                [–]watersign 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                good post, i think it's time to move back to Europe and leave the USSA

                [–]FallenHighSchoolJock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                The pecking order is:

                Handsome Masculine men (David Gandy, David Beckham)

                Masculine DOM Brutes (Junior Dos Santos, That bearded Rugby player)

                Typical Male Model Tier men (Lachowski, Young Jude Law)

                Average Masculine Men

                Average Feminine Men

                Ugly People

                Masculine Dom Brutes can sometimes usurp the top tier of guys by AMOGing them but in civilized settings they play second fiddle.

                [–]lewisc127 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                I cant speak for everywhere, but this is not just American women. I'm English and all of the above applies here too. Make no mistake, this epidemic is worldwide.

                [–]bluedrygrass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                Good post, but unfortunately, all the rest of the woman are becoming, or already are, American women. Or they are developing new forms of local and worse slutness by their own.

                The trend it's the same all around the world, women are like water, they are liquid, they quickly assume the shape of their ambient, and the looser the surrounding ambient is, the looser they quickly become.

                in other words, women are still decent only where there still are some decent standards they are supposed to match, and even a woman raised in good standards can quickly let them all go as soon as they aren't active anymore.

                Apparently chaste and good young females can become entitled sluts in the time frame of few years (months even) even in their late age.

                [–]FilmIsForever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                And it's no coincidence that everyone agreeing with each other in this thread lives in the US and has lived there the vast majority of their lives.

                The grass is always greener, my friends.

                [–]Eloni 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                Sadly, Scandinavian women look to America for role-models. How ass-backwards is that? Some of the most beautiful women in the world look to and emulate the behavior of some of the least attractive women in the world.

                Though to be honest, it's not all bad. Makes it easier to pick out women more worth your time - by avoiding women who wear sweatpants for anything by working out or a lazy Sunday at home.

                [–]writeonbrother 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                Our ancestors knew this about women, All women, and developed social norms and taboos to deal with it, including denying them the vote. They whore their votes out the same way they do their bodies. What it took men 6,000 years to build, women have managed to destroy in a century.

                [–]elchoma90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                I say this all the time and get downvoted: AWALT is true when it comes to female nature, as in their instincts. Culture, however, determines how they react to their nature.

                One example: slut shaming. Women have herd mentality, they also like swinging from dick to dick. This two things conflict with each other when sluts are frowned upon in society (patriarchal nations). In essence, the fear of social shame blocks the pussy tingles or at least decreases them noticeably.

                For instance, Latinas who are not from the city (city women are whores in most nations), if they are in healthy relationships I don't care how charming you think you are, unless you are an 8 an above do not waste your time. Your chances for success are nearly non-existent. In most cases either one of these will happen: 1- she'll try to take advantage of you. 2- she will ask her man to beat you up.

                Latin women need way more reasons to cheat that Americans.

                American men gave women too much freedom. They are not equal. They cannot deal with life as we men know it. It is unnatural. What you experience in USA is the result of 3 generations of women who were not told how it's gonna be. Daddy didn't do it. Boyfriend didn't do it. Husband didn't do it. Only Mr McAlphacock did and so now American women only respond positively to such men. Fuck you can't treat them right or they start misbehaving immediately. Foreign women are so much easier to get along with and even fall in love if you believe in such a thing as "the one". The closest thing to a unicorn you will not find in the states.

                [–]tylertgbh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                American women have dug themselves into a deep hole and declared it a mountain top

                Now that's quote worthy

                [–]hizzat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                My experiences in Europe make me feel that American women and European women are not different sexually. If anything, European women just have a heightened social / political / historical knowledge when contrasted by American women. Hoes is hoes.

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                  [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

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                  I never had a problem getting laid, this just sounds like a personal issue.

                  [–]MagicGainbow 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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                  Indeed, encourage ''finding yourself'' and it''s too easy.

                  [–]Ojisan1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  Only /u/GayLubeOil can bring together risky derivatives and risky whorishness into a solid logical thesis.