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[–]Poskito 273 points274 points  (30 children)

I'm already anticipating the update

[–]thevic115[S] 150 points151 points  (23 children)

I can't wait to see it play out. It'll be a birthday and Christmas gift to me

[–]av4taar 146 points147 points  (6 children)

Damn, this is a story. Can't w8 till the last act! Just in case remove all rocks from the perimeter, bitches be crazy!

[–]thethirdcoast 15 points16 points  (2 children)

If it's winter you need to remove all the chunks of ice from your yard as well.

Source: Personal experience

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Maybe also install the best HD CCD outside cam money can afford and have it installed so it saves video somewhere off-site

[–]R50cent 24 points25 points  (0 children)

^ upvote this upvotethisupvotethisupvotethis....

[–]TheDarkFrontier 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Why even bother? It's her mother who's going to flip out over her daughter chucking rocks at a house she owns.

[–]primordialbeast85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If she chucks rocks at least you can get the police to arrest her and it looks better for OP. But still as a I said, there is serious legal implications here that need to be reviewed.

[–]rickbovenkamp 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Please deliver when you've got more OP!

[–]lxnarratorxl 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The update cant come fast enough

[–]Ermgotthis 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Christmas gift to all of us ! This is going to be so much fun ! pulls out popcorn

[–]thevic115[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

My heart races ever time I think of it.

[–]MHOOD01 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's gonna be one hell of a birthmas.

[–]Idontlikekarmawhores 7 points8 points  (2 children)

You better deliver OP, or i ll suck your balls.

[–]Eat_The_Muffin 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Don't say that, he might want a good sucking

[–]rorrr 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Record it! Put webcams EVERYWHERE!

[–]rockymountainoysters 4 points5 points  (2 children)

These types of situations are why cell phone video exists...

Probably a good CYA idea anyway, just on the off chance she causes any property damage or finds something to lie about after the big confrontation. Being recorded may also help your noob redpill cousin keep his frame, cuz he won't want to look like a pussy on tape.

[–]thevic115[S] 35 points36 points  (1 child)

Careful before you say something about him. He's in no way a pussy. But when you spend so many years with someone and do so much for them to see them be so ungrateful will fuck with anyone. She isn't some random girl. She's all he's ever had. He's dealing with it fairly well

[–]Jaiden207 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Good on you op for backing your cousin up. More people should be like you.

[–]AzureCuzYeah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am so giddy for the ending

[–]Pyro12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Next week Friday

Fucking hell. RemindMe! "Check for anxiety purposes" 8 days

[–]sway_usa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

God I hope it plays out awesome-ly.

[–]1redpillbanana 4 points5 points  (1 child)

RemindMe! 10 days "Update to: I have seen the scam known as love play out right in front of my cousin. Now he's left heartbroken. Immediately turns red pill."

[–]NeopolitanAfterglow 98 points99 points  (64 children)

I have a funny feeling this will have a less than satisfying ending. Not sure why.

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    [–]TytalusWarden 51 points52 points  (38 children)

    After reading this I was about to say the same thing.

    You can't just evict someone like that. All she has to do is show she's been living there and most U.S. states will provide her some kind of protection against being removed without notice. It doesn't matter if she isn't on the lease. It doesn't matter if no formal contract exists. If you've lived there and can prove it (a bill being mailed there is sometimes sufficient, having all of your stuff on the lawn doesn't hurt either) then the OP will be forced to accept her back in the home. The OP also can't force her to live in sub-standard conditions, so if she had a bed before the forced eviction he'll have to provide sufficient space for a bed to be provided, plus the basics (hot water, adequate temperature, etc.)

    It can be a really shit deal if you let someone live with you and things go south, especially if that person doesn't want to leave.

    EDIT: Chicago was mentioned, so I'll list Illinois here, but pretty much every state has eviction laws: http://www.evictionresources.com/eviction_process_articles/illinois_eviction_process.html

    In this case the 30-day rule would likely apply. OP could argue the 10-day law, but if it's in Chicago then she could pretty easily "cure the lease violation" (which he would have to essentially make up) and reset the clock. The 30-day one ensures she has no recourse in the matter--30 days and she's gone.

    [–]thevic115[S] 14 points15 points  (36 children)

    Thing is....whatever she "bought" online was under his name. Anything that she did was under his name. I asked him and he said she has no mail or anything that can prove she lived there. Her resume and everything lists her old address on there. I feel bad for her but at the same time she did it to herself.

    [–]Idle_Redditing 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    He needs to see a lawyer about this. It can get really ugly.

    Your cousin should have all of this worked out, with a lawyer present, before he buys the stuff he wants. He'll need to be able to pay the lawyer's fees.

    [–]TytalusWarden 34 points35 points  (19 children)

    I'm not a liar or a manipulator, and I honor my agreements. If she was living there and the law says she can stay until I give her 30 days' notice then that's what would happen. If my word and actions mean nothing then what value do I provide to society of I can't be trusted?

    Weasel-wording things and blatantly half-truthing your way out of a shitty situation are the actions of a woman and I'll have no part of that.

    [–]TravellingIndian 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    This is the RedPill. Morality is out of scope here. People have personal values but just because some lawmakers ended up making laws without foresight, doesn't mean your personal values have to follow them.

    [–]omgimbackagain 15 points16 points  (9 children)

    Get off the grass. She tried to fuck him, So he fucked her back.

    [–]TytalusWarden 28 points29 points  (8 children)

    Revenge is petty and, in this case, against state law.

    As the side bar notes: "Women, the most responsible teenager in the house". Proper parenting isn't to simply throw the kid out the door, and playing eye-for-an-eye games with a teenager that doesn't have the same resources as you is the behavior of a bully, not a parent.

    I'm not really sure what the point of "fucking her back" is if the end result is that she's both pissed off AND living back in the house. There are better ways to handle this that are both less time-consuming and more productive.

    To paraphrase others who have commented eloquently on this topic, do not derive your validation, or seek approval from, a woman. While this case may be flipped because the rejection is what is generating the validation, it's still the wrong way to receive validation and will ultimately give this woman power over that validation. If she's sufficiently educated on the topic she'll know she can't simply be removed in this way, ultimately leading to an uncomfortable situation in the house for the next few weeks/months.

    [–]throwaway-aa2 7 points8 points  (3 children)

    Revenge is petty

    ok. so you'd be the guy that would get robbed or punched and not seek revenge? ok. I don't think revenge is petty, I think being a man is having an aura where people know not to fuck with you, and following through on it if people do fuck with you.

    [–]TytalusWarden 8 points9 points  (1 child)

    Two thoughts regarding your comment:

    1. Revenge, justice and self-defense are completely different things. If you are robbed you want to seek justice, not revenge. If you are attacked you engage in self-defense, not revenge.
    2. I fail to see a correlation between the OP's story and "being robbed or punched", those are two very different situations.

    [–]Mild111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I agree with you, but I also don't see this as revenge, nor an issue of law. Most states also have some kind of ordinance about updating the address on your driver's license and other info within 30 days of residence. If she didn't do that, sorry not sorry it's not her residence.

    As far as using the logic that she's a teenager...you can always send your teenager to boot camp/military school when they get out of control. Being abusively disrespectful to those who provide for you isn't acceptable at any age and her threats to throw him out are being met with the proper response.

    Don't trust cops though, they don't always know the law or enforce it to the letter. I would try to get her to agree, or a restraining order, just in case you get some white knight cop.

    And do what you can to keep the mom on your side!!!

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      [–]surgeon_general 6 points7 points  (2 children)

      No, she did not "do it to herself." What exactly is her crime here? Your friend went from one inappropriate extreme to the other. First he was being a chump by letting her walk all over him, then he bugs out and treats her like complete shit.

      And her crime is exactly what here? At least tell me that he thinks she was cheating on him or something. But no. Nothing.

      In my opinion, the way to handle the situation is to break it off amicably. He messed up by being a wuss. Now he should move on without being an asshole to anybody.

      It's almost like the guy who gets frustrated and goes on a shooting rampage, rather than hitting the gym and going for self-improvement.

      [–]mynewaccount42 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      What exactly is her crime here?

      Being an entitled parasite

      [–]surgeon_general 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yes, I understand that, even though that's probably an exaggeration to say that. The guy in the story clearly encouraged some of that behavior.

      My point was that the punishment of selling her belongings and putting her stuff on the lawn with no warning is asshole behavior and she didn't provoke it- and we're not even getting her side of the story.

      On a side note, I'm disappointed that so many people are encouraging this guy's behavior. Old school red pill would have shat on this guy for reacting like he did. The guy had no class at all.

      [–]raouldukeesq 5 points6 points  (8 children)

      So your advising your brother to lie to the police and/or commit perjury? What could go wrong?

      [–]thevic115[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

      No not that. I'm just saying she didn't really have much there. It all came from the kindness of O's heart. But no one is lying or anything. We just want her out of there.

      [–]bradbrookequincy 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      Doesnt matter what she had there are what he did out of the kindness of his heart. He formed a legal residence with her as allowing him to stay their. He isnt above the law because his feelings are hurt. This isnt red pill this is a bunch of sissies (not men) resolving a life issue in the fassion of a bully / criminal. This is not how real men resolve problems. Your both classless little kids.

      [–]masonpowers96 9 points10 points  (5 children)

      she moves back to Chicago and they find V's mother's childhood home to live in. V's mother is the landlord

      How's that for proof? You think her mother is going to help your buddy screw her daughter over in court? I wouldn't bet on it. And all the things your buddy gave/gifted her she can sue for in small claims. They weren't his anymore to take back or sell. The update, if this story is real, should be interesting. Please do update if she decides to sue him.

      [–]t21spectre 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Tell your brother to speak with an attorney about kicking her out. You never lose money hiring a good attorney.

      [–]Atavisionary 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I don't like how tyalus frames it in white knight terms of honor. She has no honor and deserves known in return. But practically speaking, he is probably right that the state will side with her if she pushes it, even if she has no evidence. Legally evicting her is the safest bet.

      [–]creekcanary 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yeah man, I'm happy about your cousin discovering TRP and everything, but I would really highly recommend doing some extensive legal research here. If you're gonna go the nuclear option, you need to be CERTAIN you have your ass covered.

      Either get on a legal advice website, or just hire a fucking lawyer.

      [–]wende11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Actually it does matter if they are not on the lease, also if he can prove that he was paying all the bills and was the main source of income of the house then she tried to kick him out, her case would get thrown out immediately especially since it looks like her mother, the landlord, is working against her as well.

      Source: I grew up in Chicago

      [–]thevic115[S] 11 points12 points  (4 children)

      Well he's taking all legal action to remove her from his home. His landlord will do whatever it takes to make sure she keeps him since he has paid everything on time or in advance while her daughter can't afford anything. The daughter really wants to move to Cali anyway.

      [–]1Rumble_in_the_Jungle 24 points25 points  (1 child)

      If that's the case, maybe O should give her a call, explain the situation and tell her she has nothing to come back to. After all, it was his own fault for being a doormat and V was just following her female nature. No need for her to come back and have to deal with all that drama and whatever bullshit she can throw at him like /u/FasKap described.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorAerobus 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      OP you better help him out to make sure he doesn't do anything that can land him in jail. Please. You said it yourself, that his RP side "emerged." Nurture his RP side. Don't let him revert to being a beta.

      You can always bring a horse to a lake, but you can't make it drink the water. This guy is starting to take sips. Encourage him to take gulps. Don't let him stop drinking.

      [–]tallwheel 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      With the genders reversed, I can see the guy getting arrested and effectively evicted and thrown in jail if he makes any kind of a scene, but not with the girl being the one kicked out. OP's cousin needs to protect his ass. He was not born the right sex to get away with doing this.

      [–]DexterousRichard 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Fuck. Just looking at California law, and you're right. What a bullshit rule. If they live there more than 30 days you have to give notice etc.

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        [–]trrrrouble 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I doubt she'll want to stay there with the guy's buddies moving in and a lot of stuff sold off.

        [–]1sailorJery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Why would they arrest OP's brother for something his cousin did?

        [–]primordialbeast85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Nice to see someone on here with the experience of real life. Agreed withe everything you said. It sounds great in a fantasy world but it is about to become a nightmare.

        [–]insaneyoshi 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        Same here. I think it's because we already know how it will play out: tons of hamstering, victimization, fake tears and drama.

        This woman has already shown her complete lack of introspection, and will only try to play this as her being the victim to all their acquaintances. No lesson learned, no "divine justice" other than this guy O having been finally disconnected.

        [–]thevic115[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        She has zero friends. He's literally all she has except a brother and father. It's her mother's place so I think what her mom says she has to listen to.

        [–]systemshock869 4 points5 points  (3 children)

        Mother-in-law landlord maybe?

        [–]thevic115[S] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

        Well I wouldn't be so sure of that. Her mother cares about money. Not really her daughter....sad to say. But my cousin O does give her money and is always on time. V doesn't have any money to her name and O and the mother discussed V moving out and living with her dad.

        [–]ok_but 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        It makes economic sense. Now instead of relying on one renter to come up with the cash every month, there's a safety net of four guys total to cover the note. Good landlords know when odds are improving in their favor.

        [–]apollyon_jd 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        V moving out and living with her dad isn't exactly V coming home from holiday and finding no home to transition from because O threw all her stuff in the yard. Last I checked Chicago wasn't the most weather friendly city this time of year to be homeless.

        [–]zareason 26 points27 points  (27 children)

        What causes most men to change from betas to non betas or alphas are a result of women treating them. Wow at the irony.

        Good for your cousin, men love and care way too much.

        [–]thevic115[S] 33 points34 points  (25 children)

        The most caring people I've met are men. We were born to form a brotherhood with other men and protect women. How the hell do we get so much shit from women for being ourselves.

        [–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (2 children)

        It's a symptom of a broken culture. Both men and women lack guidance when it comes to intergender relations and gender identities. Many people stumble through relationships and sex and don't really know what they're doing. Such things are fundamental to the human experience so tragically they live much of their life with a vague sense of confusion, anxiety, and dissatisfaction that permeates everything.

        [–]thevic115[S] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        I wish they taught us this in school or something. Hell anything along these lines.

        [–]Soultrane9 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        As i think back of my high school teachers, almost all of them were miserable losers. I can't imagine them teaching anything.

        [–]ColdEiric 15 points16 points  (1 child)

        I've stopped asking for help from women I do not know. Only men help strangers.

        [–]pissoutofmyass 13 points14 points  (0 children)

        Yeah, its really interesting. I learned the hard way not to share my personal insecurities with women, even long time friends from childhood who I had no intention of fucking. They will either turn on you intentionally and use it as a weapon, or turn on you accidentally by being unable to control their compulsion to gossip.

        If I need an ear to share my troubles with, or some assistance, I turn to men. Strange men are usually more willing to help me than women who are my "friends", and even women in my family.

        [–]raceAround126 13 points14 points  (6 children)

        It's ironic.

        Most men's dream is to find a nice girl who compliments their lives to settle with.

        It's amazing that women all say they want the same thing but do their level best to smack men down for the same thing.

        Women... Just fucking mad!

        [–]zareason 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        Women don't have the strength to get on our level. Disregarding our physical differences women will never do the sacrifices men have done for them.

        [–]raceAround126 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I think that's exactly it. TRP is just a reaction to the fact that 99% of women can walk through life unabated. They get passes for everything. Even today, one of my team mates go glossed over when the hyper-sensitive MD caught the late arriving personnel to give them a dressing down. She got the sum total of "Same goes for you" despite only walking in mere moments earlier.

        The femanazis of Reddit try to dress it up as TRP being woman hating and, although I see a fair amount of it from the angry just swallowed type, it's really not the case. We just recognize that in order to get to our "as near enough as it will do" unicorn, we have to wade through the sheer mountains of asshole cum dumpsters first!

        [–]thevic115[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        They're psychopaths. It's ridiculous.

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          [–]Idle_Redditing 4 points5 points  (1 child)

          Please tell us some stories to clear this up more.

          [–]zareason 2 points3 points  (12 children)

          Women always try to do better, and they will never love/care the same way men do. They've learned to turn our qualities against us, and at this point we should stop giving them the attention they need to live.

          [–]thevic115[S] 9 points10 points  (11 children)

          Another thing I noticed...they just follow what we like. I really like video games, playing guitar and baseball. Guess what my exes all like after they dated me? It's like they can't even form their own identities. They're just walking talking lies.

          [–]3 Endorsed ContributorSkorchZang 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          That observation is an important part of the "red pill canon".

          Women are innately Followers, they adapt to whatever is around them at any cost to "personal identity". Monkey see, monkey do. Whereas a man may refuse and hold his ground, this type of response is extremely rare for a woman, especially if she wants something from you. She'll do anything and compromise on anything to fit in.

          That's partly why that staple of blue pill courtship, "having all the same interests", is ultimately such a turn off for a girl. She fucking knows what that guy's trying to do, he's acting around her exactly like any little bitch would around a man she wants. It's almost more beneficial to play deliberately to the contrary and be disagreeable - so she likes videogames and baseball? Are you serious, Vanessa, darlin? Fuck videogames and baseball, I don't like that, that's for little kids.

          [–]tallwheel 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          It's true. When meeting an ex who I dated pre-redpill, she told me 'You've changed. I liked you the way you were before (easily manipulated).' I told her, 'You made me this way'. (which is true. The breakup with her was the impetus for me finding the manosphere and TRP.) Of course she would not accept responsibility for the change (which is fine). Lots of hamstering about how the breakup wasn't her fault (it was), and blah blah blah.

          [–]Paranoidexboyfriend 33 points34 points  (4 children)

          Hopefully she doesn't realize that without a notice to quit and magisterial proceeding this was an illegal eviction and she has remedy at law against your cousin

          [–]GoGreenGiant 16 points17 points  (0 children)

          This is actually really important, you can't Kick her out, she is a tenant even if she isn't on the lease. OP, your cousin needs to hedge his legal options here. You need to serve her a 30 day notice to vacate, and if she does not, then file evictions with the court.

          The important part is to file proper notice, and be encouraging for her to leave. You guys could have fucked up here.

          There is a cool and calm way this should have been handled, and this was not it.

          [–]crazydave1979 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          very true, need to file papers at courthouse first

          [–]thevic115[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          Forgot to mention he's working on that. That was important and I forgot about it.

          [–]brmlb 12 points13 points  (1 child)

          To the OP:

          Don't have your cousin play games where she has to show up and the eviction is a surprise, drama ensues, and yelling disrupts your neighbors, police get involved, etc.

          Drop off her clothes / stuff back to where she is now if the drive isn't too far, mail it if it isn't too expensive, or at the very least have the conversation on the phone with her to make sure she's has a return ticket back to wherever she's going. Even better, just tell her not to come back Friday and that all her stuff will get back to her by early next week, then cut off all contact permanently, for good.

          It's Wednesday now, have him call her tonight, pack up / mail / drop off her stuff Thursday, and don't plan on some dramatic confrontation Friday. Even if she insists on coming back, what's she coming back to if her clothes / etc are already in a UPS box heading back to California?

          Otherwise, this is just some exciting life-event for a young couple that your cousin wants to play out because it'll make for a good story.

          [–]thevic115[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I'll show him all these comments.

          [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (10 children)

          Offtopic, but single letter names are hard for me to read. Plus no gender indications. I've seen posters do this so often and Idk why they can't make make fake names like Owen, Victoria, Jim, etc? Just something to keep in mind next update.

          [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

          V = vagina. O = oppressive.

          [–]Antagonistic_Comment 5 points6 points  (4 children)

          Single letters are way less obnoxious than referring to reddit usernames. "So my cousin POTATO IN MY ANUS was talking to his girlfriend breadandbutter and decided that..."

          [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

          So I was to my buddy 1 and my other friend 0 when I saw HB7 we'll call 4 when my Mom Y and my Dad X stumbled in and said "Why aren't you dating your cousin P", well they didn't say P because I replaced her name with the letter 'P' because she likes watersports but that's another story. Anyway, I was making a paper for a Professor I call Teach but for here will label H. 1 says to me "I think 0 used to hit on her (4) wanting to eat her 3.14159.... but got shot down." I thought that was awesome because I don't want other dude's leftovers, even if it's Apple 3.14159..., so I went to her with P beside me for some preselection advantage, don't tell X and Y because they'd be mad at me, and said "Do you know POTATO IN MY ANUS, cause you look like breadandbutter...." but that was all a lie because breadandbutter is nowhere close to a 7 but just might be a 4, no HB because that ain't HB like 4 is.

          [–]Nerf_Circus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Was waiting for an intricate joke about maths, didn't happen.

          [–]xtbk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          i was reciting this and i felt like someone came in my mouth

          [–]tallwheel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          That was a funny comment, but nobody uses reddit usernames when referring to IRL friends/family.

          [–]Xiamon 2 points3 points  (2 children)

          It is, that's why I always make up my own names when reading them. For this story I used Orion and Veronica.

          [–]foldpak111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Orion Bo you sound like a gym leader

          [–]1Zackcid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Oliver and Veronica where the ones I used.

          [–]bobsmitharmour 9 points10 points  (2 children)

          Throwing away all her pocessions is aganst the law. Even if she never paid rent, if shes stayed at that house for a long time, she automatically receives protection from tenancy laws.

          U cant force her to move out. U have to go through eviction process first.

          Your cousin can get in a lot of trouble. Its also illegal to change the locks so she cant get back in the house too.

          She can fuck up ur cousin by making fake domestic abuse accusations etc. Women can play dirty and cops will always side with the lying women.

          [–]GhostOfAladdin 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          Epic Hamstering is now ~Imminent~

          [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (5 children)

          I see a lawsuit coming… Or maybe her begging him back. Let's see it play out.

          [–]RedForMe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I think the second. While it's technically an illegal eviction, to make anything of it requires:

          • Her to know that it's illegal and not just shitty of him
          • Her to be mad enough to fight it in court.
          • Her to have the resources to hire a lawyer

          I am not a lawyer, just a guy who has seen lots of random situations.

          A good shorthand for legal cases is "Who has more money?" Most of the time, you can count on that person winning. Further, it's pretty hard to be broke and hire an attorney, and it sounds like this girl has exactly $0 to her name and no family willing to help. Plus, this isn't exactly a malpractice lawsuit, so it's not like there's a pot of gold in this for the attorney to take it on contingency.

          Last, and maybe most important, none of this solves the immediate problem of her still needing a place to stay while it goes through court.

          Not doing a proper eviction is legally not how you handle this, but there are tons of reasons financially, socially, and pragmatically that she will be more likely to have to just deal with it than to successfully sue her way back into living with him, a situation she doesn't want anyway.

          [–]AnalLeak 11 points12 points  (1 child)

          Fuck. Yes. You're a good friend.

          [–]TimPartendale 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          You're a good friend.

          "O" is his cousin, although I agree he's a good cousin.

          [–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 12 points13 points  (0 children)

          This is what happens when you listen to women, do what they say, and try to "be what they want think they want."

          They end up hating you for being a spineless, directionless sack of shit that slaves away to subsidise their shallow, parasitic existence. They gaslight you, they mentally abuse you, and they exploit you until you fucking crack up. And seen as a beta, if you dare retort, you are the one painted as the predator, the bad guy, and everyone eats that bullshit up. Nobody will believe the bitch is in the wrong, and even if they do, they rarely give a fuck. It makes no difference. No matter how much of a cunt she is, you're always the "big bad man" and she's the "poor innocent little thing." Then they dump you on the street and tell everyone you're not fit to even breathe in their presence and that you deserve less consideration than maggots on a decaying body. All because you were naive enough to "try to be what she said she wanted." Women's words, worth close to jack shit they are.

          Luckily this cunt had no power to dump him on the street and the landlord mother isn't shitting on him. Note to your cousin: be wary of the landlord, when her daughter tells her her shit was on the street she may try and fuck with him.

          If anyone reading this thinks I'm being dramatic for the sake of it (not in my personality, fyi,) go get hurt because you're a naive chump who needs to learn the hard way. OP's story is by no means unique, but it is indeed eye-opening for those of you naive to the ways of women. Likewise, women don't have to put up with women like this, so they are totally fucking oblivious to the bullshit they put lesser men through. Sure they're aware they're callously unfair to an extent, but they don't have this level of insight, they only see it through their own solipsistic lens. Women who lurk this sub learn a lot about how fucked up they are because they can rationalise it off as "I'm not like that, but I know other women who are" (basically every woman, out of ego self-preservation, believes NAWALT applies to her, HAHA!) Women are shit introspectors.

          Show no mercy to these unappreciative hoes. Build your fucking empire.

          [–]moremane 6 points7 points  (3 children)

          Damn. This hits so close to home. My ex-wife was exactly like this...

          [–]systemshock869 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          Came to say the same thing! My situation wasn't quite as extreme, but she constantly spent money, demanded basically that I clean the whole house all the time, and then ultimately left me because 'we never do anything fun.'

          Fuck 'em.

          [–]thevic115[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

          You know if they at least owned up to their shitty behavior at least you could have a slight respect for them. Like hey there's nothing wrong with wanting a rich husband or whatever. Just don't take advantage of the hard working men trying to make a living. God damn.

          [–]Movonnow 5 points6 points  (1 child)

          May he takes great pleasure in seeing his ex's face when she understands she is the one being kicked out.

          [–]OnMyWay2DaTop 9 points10 points  (1 child)

          Damn, man. Kicking her out just like that is most definitely illegal.

          You better tell your friend to sort that shit out or this will backfire big time. Good luck and looking forward to what's coming next.

          [–]apollyon_jd 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          If my calculations are correct he should already be sleeping with his ex-girlfriends mother. (V's mother for those not following along)

          Very much looking forward for part 2 of this story. I do hope that you do not let his beta ways shine through when she breaks.

          [–]TheAssh0le 4 points5 points  (2 children)

          Why? WTF is the point? To get back at girl? He's going to remain in a house he can barely afford, invite worlds of drama and, almost certainly, legal battles just to spite a fucking ex-gf? The fact that he cares at all about sticking it to her says he's still emotionally invested.

          Just because you can win, doesn't mean you should fight.

          Just forget her ass. Move out, leave all the shit that's demonstrably "hers", and go totally radio silent. Leave her with a house she can't afford and stop giving this narcissist attention and drama. See how long her mother goes without that easy money.

          [–]primordialbeast85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Agreed. Moving out and starting fresh is the absolute best answer. This thread has half people who make sense and the other half make me feel we are in some wacky fantasy world. Wtf dudes. If you are a young inexperienced man ask for advice and learn from your elders here. There is a whole world of experience out here that's much different than you would think as a younger man.

          [–]RedForMe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I agree that this is the better option, if possible. However, if he has a lease to rent the house that doesn't expire anytime soon, then I think the best course of action is to do what he did: find roommates to pay rent. He can easily afford the place now that he likely has rent coming from multiple sources instead of having to shoulder the entire burden himself. However, he should have done a proper eviction with notice to ensure he doesn't legally fuck himself.

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            [–]thevic115[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I want nothing to do with her. I don't want to get fucked over.

            [–]Red_Work 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            This could be worse that that fuckin safe..... Goddamnit op, you're fucking with my emotions you better pull thru with that update!!

            [–]Dad7025 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            From a legal point of view, pretty stupid thing to do for both your cousin and the mother (assuming she's down with throwing he daughter's stuff in the yard and locking her out). Especially in the city of Chicago.

            This could easily backfire. Better hope she's not smart enough to call an attorney.

            Still, the update should be entertaining.

            [–]I_trp 3 points4 points  (1 child)

            "...this is where the red pill side of him has finally emerged."

            He earned the level of respect that he received. Everything you listed are things he did for her over the course of 2 years. You listed nothing that he did to improve himself. That's on him.

            So no, this is not where the RP side of him emerged. This is where the pissed off BP side of him emerged. (He's got 4 more phases to go through)

            He waited until she left for Thanksgiving because he is still a coward. He wants you and your two cousins in the house for the same reason.

            Before you accuse me of white knighting - save it. Kicking her out and throwing her shit in the yard was imbecilic and punishing the girl for behavior that he himself brought on by his own behavior over the last two years.

            [–]BhiQ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Ah, blacknighting like a boss.

            [–]thenarrrowpath 2 points3 points  (2 children)

            Please post an update! Please!

            And really, V's Mother is on your cousins side?!?!? That's cool.

            [–]thevic115[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

            He explained the situation and she is actually pretty pissed at her daughter for being ungrateful

            [–]fortifiedoranges 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            She's pissed at her daughter for blowing her chance at beta bucks

            [–]randarrow 2 points3 points  (3 children)

            1. He needs to speak with an attorney asap, like today. Even if the lease is in his name, she is an occupant and may have a right to formal eviction proceedings.
            2. He needs to change the locks.
            3. His friends need to move in NOW and establish a few days of residency and to serve as witnesses.
            4. He needs to tell her to stay in CA where she has a support base, before she flies back.

            [–]Dad7025 3 points4 points  (2 children)

            Actually, changing the locks and having the friends move in is probably what the lawyer will tell him NOT to do.

            [–]randarrow 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            Locks, maybe. Friends, nothing she can do about it. Is a discussion for the lawyer though. He will want documentation and witnesses

            [–]Dad7025 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Well, the friends and the locks are really two sides of the same coin. They both prevent her from living there.

            Let's suppose she hires an attorney. Since its in Chicago, she may be awarded attorney fees, so its not too far-fetched an idea.

            Let's suppose the OP's cousin doubles down and it actually goes to trial.

            The judge isn't going to be too sympathetic to a guy who has three of his friends move in, changes the lock and throws her stuff in the yard while she is out of town.

            Yea, the more I think about this, the more I would urge this guy to throw it into reverse. The whole thing is just stupid and petty.

            Also, I am a lawyer in Chicago who occasionally handles landlord tenant cases so I think my opinion is well based.

            [–]bradbrookequincy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Hate to break it to him but in not one 50 states can you legally kick someone out who was living in a house even if not on a lease. She also has a legal residence at the house. Will she fight it and try to stay? Probably not. Further, this just seems like two young kids whose relationship did not work out due to the immaturity we all have at that age. It seems a bit over the top to dump someones possessions on the lawn when they have a break up.

            [–]red_pill_throw_away 2 points3 points  (2 children)

            I would set up cameras around the house incase she retaliates physically, you have proof of crazy for court. And if she doesn't it'll make a great pick me up/motivational video.

            [–]thevic115[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            I'll document as best as I can

            [–]Readyornotiamkhan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Saving this thread. OP please deliver

            [–]magicalbird 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            She tells him that he never pays attention to her and she feels unloved. He apologizes and tells her they can work it out.

            Failed shit test.

            Well after having a Halloween party at their house she has had enough. O then tells her he is sorry and wants to work it out.

            Failed shit test.

            If you continually fail shit tests from the majority of entitled women who want to always have "fun" then you're going to dry up tingles quickly.

            [–]Gator813 2 points3 points  (2 children)

            Just curious, how old are the parties involved? This seems, on the surface, to be a childish act of retaliation that was done without properly thinking things through. Quite possibly due to the egging on of those who stand to gain by moving into the home. Also, going through someone's phone records reeks of immaturity and insecurity.

            [–]thevic115[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            They're 23. I just turned 20 today so we're all young fucks

            [–]Dad7025 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            You should consider whether youth and inexperience have caused you and your cousin to overestimate the strength of his position.

            [–]AwesomeberryJam 2 points3 points  (2 children)

            Not sure about the law where you live, but where I live O and V would be considered common law partners, meaning that he cannot legally do any of the things he has done. Hopefully this doesn't come back to bite him in the ass

            [–]TheeRyanGrey 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            This sounds like typical young love gone sour, not spiteful, evil woman trying to ruin a man's life.

            Your cousin is hurt but this doesn't mean love is a fraudulent thing, it's purpose has merely been skewed and misrepresented.

            The shadenfreude hard on around here is getting absurd.

            [–]xmarcs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Schaudenfeude hard on.. beautifully put. Sounds like she had qualifications to get a job too. He supported her for too long in a rough economy and she didn't appreciate it. It's not like she was some bimbo squeezing every last cent out of him with her tits..

            [–]saltyleave 4 points5 points  (2 children)

            Does this feel like bullshit to anybody else? I'm honestly pretty surprised this is stickied.

            [–]xmarcs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Yeah when he got to the part of "apparently she liked me and and a couple other guys as well" you could tell he was embellishing a bit. I'm sure this happened in some capacity but it sounds more like a relationship that's run its course, than a "wow he sure showed her and took life by the balls".

            [–]surgeon_general 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Holy shit. What happened to my favorite subreddit?? With all the stuff that could be stickied, they stickied a guy who acted blue pill, and then ultimately reacted in a blue pill manner when he supposedly woke up?

            What's he going to do for an encore? Smack her in the face next time he sees her?

            [–]football1010 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Textbook example.

            Hypergamy caused her to find a better mate. It took three weeks for her hampster to convince her end things completely (that she deserved the house and everything for free), and branch swing to the new guy(s.)

            [–]alecesne 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Tell him to put her stuff in a storage space so she has no reason to sue him for destruction of property. Even though she doesn't pay rent, she might try and assert that she was a tenant, and thus improperly evicted, so maybe look that up.

            Good luck, and either way, it sounds like he's moving in the right direction!

            [–]asstaxticks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            At some point, he's probably going to ask for some privacy so he can talk to her alone. Acquiesce, but give him this tip: If he wants to say something in private because he's embarrassed of what you would say/think if you overheard him say it, then it's the wrong thing to say.

            [–]WarmApfelPi 1 point2 points  (3 children)

            Revenge is bittersweet. I can only hope it's sweeter than it is bitter for your brother.

            [–]thevic115[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            He's not looking for revenge. He just wants to live in the home he made and enjoy it.

            [–]WarmApfelPi 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            Throwing her shit in the yard is revenge. Unless she's an idiot, it likely won't end well for him. If he wanted to get rid of her stuff, he should have taken it to her mom's since he's cool with her.

            [–]NOFAPFOOL 1 point2 points  (14 children)

            The only problem I see with this is you cannot legally kick someone out without notice. I have watched many episodes of cops where this takes place. People must go through a process for eviction. I am not saying she knows this but she could call the police and have her things moved back into the home until she finds another place to live or whatever the time period is for that states law.

            [–]1oldredder 0 points1 point  (13 children)

            depends on jurisdiction: some places you can. If a person is not on the lease how can that person prove she lived there?

            Eviction is for people on the lease. Everyone else is a trespasser.

            [–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            tl;dr My cousin's girlfriend was being a typical girl. Tried to kick him out of his own home and now she's homeless.

            Good news for equality. One more homeless woman to balance out the 70% male demographic. Break that glass floor, baby!

            [–]evilassaultweapon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            He talked to her mother and she is completely on his side.

            Uh huh.

            Edit: link phale

            [–]primordialbeast85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Also another note of why I think it is fake is that OP considered moving out and letting her keep the place which would never happen in real life. The mother, the landlord must have been aware of their issues over this period of time and women don't let shit slip like that. The mother would have made her son aware of who has priority immediately and how would the girlfriend pay the rent without a job? They aren't married he's not going to give her alimony and they don't own the apartment so there's no case there. I don't know how young you guys are but nothing adds up to me here. Sorry gentleman, contain your glee for a real story. It sounds like a kid's story and not even a thought shown to legal ramifications is an instant red flag for me. Hopefully the mods will keep this up for a little while so you guys can learn about real estate law and how to handle situations like this should this ever happen to you.

            [–]primordialbeast85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            The mother going against her own child because a guy pays his rent on time is about as absurd as it gets. You think some mother is going to let a renter kick out her daughter and live on the street? What kind of garbage is this?

            [–]primordialbeast85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            And one more note to make. If he wasn't happy with the situation him simply cutting his lease short or not reupping and getting a new place would have made this situation ridiculously easy. All in all, the poster seems pretty legit but the post, meh its definitely bullshit made up by a 20 year old kid living in a fantasy world. Alright I'm done here.

            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

            We need cinematographic documentation of forthcoming update....for educational purposes.

            [–]okadery 2 points3 points  (3 children)

            I'm confused. I agree she's a bitch and all, but if he was spending all his free time playing video games and chilling with friends, are her complaints really completely unfounded? Did I miss something?

            [–]tallwheel 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            Well, he has a job, so he is free to spend his money on video games and beers with friends. If she has no job, then she doesn't have much of a right to complain, unless she's just talking about sitting around at home spending more time together without using money. Even then... no one has a "right" to attention from their SO per se.

            [–]thevic115[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

            He took her out on dates all the time. We would visit at most one day out of the weekend.

            [–]2pacBiggieisland 1 point2 points  (2 children)

            Oh this is going to be so fucking sweet.

            The funny thing is though that even though its her mothers place, he still had to pay rent for her? Looking at the situation and that money was really tight, and they just happened to pay the rent to her very own mother, is bitterly strange.

            [–]thevic115[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            They wanted to be "adults" so they agreed to pay. It's sad that the own daughter never paid a cent.

            [–]TekkomanKingz 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            PLEASE provide an update once she comes back and I want to hear what her Mother says to her as well. Her Mother is probably like "You dumb ho you have yourself a beta bux and you can't even maintain him and you want to try and get an Alpha male?"

            [–]thevic115[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            That's probably exactly what she's saying. Her mother is married to some rich fuck and lives by the ocean. She has 3 bmw's from that guy.

            [–]clam61 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            You can read all the text messages if you pay the phone bill?

            [–]Parodyst1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I need to know how this will end. It's so delicious

            [–]milugan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            fuck!!!!!! i want this update so bad!!!!! haha it's like waiting for the next episode of serial!

            [–]FateBender 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            In for updates. Don't forget to fill us in OP. Gon be epic.

            [–]reel_nikkas_dot_com 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            U better deliever motherfucking OP

            [–]Dronitto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            tl;dr My cousin's girlfriend was being a typical girl.

            Thats where you are wrong. Thats now how a typical girl is. They all can relate to this but this was an extreme case, really.

            [–]primordialbeast85 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Well you can't just kick someone out like that. That's illegal as far as I know. So naturally the next step is to continue what you are doing allowing his friend and cousin to move in. Then every time she's there you guys can make it really awkward and uncomfortable for her. Eventually when she realizes she can't win him back she will leave. But as far as I know you can't legally kick anyone out like that. I'm only aware of aNYC law but I get the feeling Chicago would be similar. I'd contact his mother and tell her to talk to her lawyer just to be 100% right in the eyes of the law. Situations like this can get extremely murky.

            [–]primordialbeast85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            http://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=31766

            Look at all the major problems just to get a house guest to leave. I got my real estate license years ago, never sold anything and never got serious with it but I've had enough conversations with landlords and lawyers to understand some of the basics.

            Kicking someone out is wrong, you can't leave a human being stranded like that even if they deserve it. It is a good law imo, but a headache for sure. OP your cousin needs to get in touch with the mother and her attorney and figure out the best solution She may even have access to some of the stuff he bought as well. I get it feeling this is a fake post or done by boys being brash. Surely the mother being a landlord would have been aware of the pitfalls of kicking someone out and notified her son so I believe the post is fake. If not, you better have your cousin and his mother do their due diligence here.

            Take her stuff from the yard and put it back in the house. This is the feminist era, only women are allowed to kick us out and leave our shit out there like that. Don't ever forget how powerful they can be when the law is on their side. Whenever is a situation like this with a woman follow the fucking law to a T!