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[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (9 children)

Ahhhh, I love it. Learning PUA / negging type stuff was the first basic step for me so many years ago, and it BLEW MY MIND by being such a radically different perspective for me at that time. But now studying RP, by comparison that stuff seems like such a silly, incomplete view of the world. I'm really starting to see why truly alpha guys say that PUA shit is just a bunch of fake tricks. Yeah, it's a good first step to "fake it", but you really have to BE alpha through every fiber of your being. It isn't some act you put on to dance like around like a fake alpha monkey to impress women.

Sorta related - a post on here a few days ago about posture made me reflect on how I've been noticing that almost every guy you see out in public has terrible posture, on top of shitty style, too much body fat, and a defeated facial expression. THIS is your competition, a bunch of shambling, pasty shlubs. You're already 100 miles ahead of them by even being aware that you can improve yourself. They aren't competition - they don't even know there's a game on.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Faking it works for initial contact, but once you end up in an LTR or just deal with life in general, you're still the average sad dude, and your beta tendencies will cause you to come crashing back down.

PU works in the short-term to increase your perceived SMV, but you must actually improve yourself and deeply internalize the hungry-for-life mindset in other to increase your actual SMV.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

For me, faking it was enough for me to haul my ass up out of the mud and get laid a couple times with average chicks, which massively improved my self confidence.

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    Oops, sorry I didn't realize this sub auto-deletes link comments for some reason. I will PM it to you.

    If anyone else is interested, the post is "FR: Getting Subway at the mall leads to plate (your posture is fucking important, nonverbal cues, communication, frame, direct game, etc.) and a HUGE red pill moment" by menergize

    [–]BroflexMcMansteel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Well said.

    If you use tactics then your PUA self becomes separate from your "normal" self, and this is a problem because ultimately you're putting on a performance. Don't act attractive. Be attractive, and the girls come. It much more relaxing this way.

    [–]ROIVeritas -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Learning PUA / negging type stuff was the first basic step for me so many years ago, and it BLEW MY MIND by being such a radically different perspective for me at that time. But now studying RP, by comparison that stuff seems like such a silly, incomplete view of the world

    Likewise for many a man out there. PUA is good, but in order to game BP'ers, you must be TRP. BP doesn't pick up or pull RP'ers, it's vice versa and for a host of reasons too,

    [–]FrameWalker 24 points25 points  (4 children)

    Loved this post because it stroked my ego. I'd like to add a counterpoint here:

    Fuck game. Just talk to women and choose among them. Let it be known, in your own natural way, that you have options. And you always have options, because you love being by yourself. You love yourself and your alone time more than you love women because that's the time that you're getting shit done. When you're building your kingdom.

    Your post is big on inner game, which is a vital component. Outergame does work. Don't knock it. I was tempted to say fuck game too, but hit some good moments in stride. The quick banter, teasing - it gets their attention. A good strong first impression made with game will work wonders. It's marketing for your soul.

    [–]pnt9 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Yes. But wouldn't teasing, for example, be a way of demonstrating you have options as OP suggested? If you had the only one chance, you wouldn't want to blow it by being edgy--would you?

    [–]FrameWalker 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Abundance. If it doesn't work out - next girl. There is no "blowing it." That's operating in her frame. She has to earn it from you.

    [–]rpscrote 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    You don't have only one chance

    [–]sir_wankalot_here 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Loved this post because it stroked my ego.

    At least you are able to judge yourself correctly, most people can't. Always stoke people's egos 😃

    [–]NoodlesTheClown 167 points168 points  (23 children)

    FANTASTIC.

    Champions don't focus on beating their opponent(s). They don't pretend, they don't talk shit, and they aren't looking for shortcuts. They only focus on consistent improvement, to make their best even better, every damn day. The results happen on their own.

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        [–]shzftw 4 points5 points  (2 children)

        IMO Fedor Emilianenko is a better example of a true Champion Alpha.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL7oUmTu74I

        Also keeping frame while seeing your brother get beat up.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f86K6I5mY2Y

        [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Michael Jordan was the best because of his mentality. Check this out, http://philly.barstoolsports.com/around-barstool/michael-jordan-ruined-muggsy-bogues-career-with-one-sentence-and-other-tales-of-mjs-competitive-dickishness/.

        And when he was on the Wizards he crushed Kwame Brown's confidence completely making him a huge bust. Dude was a mental assassin.

        [–]johnbranflake 14 points15 points  (4 children)

        The spartans were silent whereas other greek cities would shout insults before a battle.

        [–]fuck_da_haes -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

        Actually no, they were taunting the enemy ...

        [–]johnbranflake 6 points7 points  (2 children)

        The other greeks would. The spartan hoplites did not say anything as they were approaching an enemy phalanx, they let their crimson cloaks, their reputation, and their ornate shields do the talking.

        [–]nhomewarrior 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        And those silent messages were the loudest thing said on the battleground that day

        [–]MrExpress 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        Winners will do whatever it takes to WIN! Always take every advantage over your opponent, take every shortcut you can and win with out restraint and without shame. All is fair in love and war fucking means something. It means attack discriminately, with a 3:1 advantage, from better ground with superior firepower, tactics, training and combined arms. Don't even give them a chance to shoot back. Take away as many variables as you possibly can and leave nothing to chance. Sex is amoral and so is war (true war, one group trying to kill another.) If talking shit helps you win then talk shit, in the end just fucking win. This is not about being nice, being honorable or being fair. This is about winning.

        [–]NoodlesTheClown 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        If you're eager to lay waste to the people around you for the sake of "winning", that's pretty shallow and frankly, sad. You sound like that sadistic high school football coach who runs his kids until they die from heat exhaustion.

        Wake up, this is 2015. We aren't living at the edge of the Mongol Empire, and we aren't fighting in the Battle of the Bulge.

        [–]sir_wankalot_here -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        According to you Sun Tzu was a loser, and Ghaghis Khan was a pussy. Think about what exactly you wrote for a bit.

        [–]UnusualOx 34 points35 points  (6 children)

        Given that this is a great post that other people will link to in the future, can you please clean up one thing? There's a difference between "chose" and "choose". You're consistently using "chose" where you should be using "choose". Other than that, great post.

        [–]Cloughtower 15 points16 points  (4 children)

        This is such an awesome way to correct somebody

        [–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 12 points13 points  (3 children)

        You can't lose with the power to choose.

        Set yourself loose, and stick with what you chose.

        [–]Elodrian 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        I want that second line to rhyme...

        [–]TRPatriot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Me too - maybe:

        Hold your nose, and stick with what you chose?

        [–]NeopolitanAfterglow 82 points83 points  (13 children)

        This post hit my resonant frequency and now my entire sense of self is in full on vibration. Every single word described me as though you weren't talking to anyone else. 10/10

        [–]Endorsed Contributorcocaine_face 14 points15 points  (0 children)

        I have to agree with this - it just gets so easy after a while. I remember learning Game, I remember practicing by going out night after night, and now it's just pretty much point at a girl and say, "Ok, you."

        It doesn't always work, but when it doesn't, why would you care? You've got 5 other girls who are down.

        [–]QueefMcSharterson 41 points42 points  (3 children)

        This was a damn good post. Saved. Inspirational for me personally. I'm on my way to being the best dude I can be and I have my whole life ahead of me. My 4 month plate dropped off and it hurt more than it should have. I gave her all of the boyfriend experiences before getting any girlfriend rewards. Thanks to this place, that will never happen again. I have my balls back.

        TRP , for some reason, is where a massive amount of my motivation comes from. This place is why I start eating right and exercising. This community is why my smv is now something I actually think about. You'd think it would come from places like /fitness or something similar but it doesn't.

        This community is the shit and the eye opening process made me angry but I'm moving on to accepting women and the world for what they really are.

        [–]NowBecoming[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

        Read the sidebar link about powertalk. You get more straight talk here about what it means to be a man than anywhere else. That's why we love it here :).

        [–]redbluepilling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I'll just say that /fitness is a bit coddling. /bodybuilding or /weightroom depending on what you're into (or both, both is good) will be quite a bit different, particularly the latter.

        [–]Weedwin31 79 points80 points  (14 children)

        Men i think this is poetry, my heart beat raised up like if i were in the gym, this is the kind of post i like to read, and i wish everyone could have a a way to get this knowledge, TRP is a culture to me

        [–]Entrefut 74 points75 points  (11 children)

        I don't want TRP to be well known. It's not something that works in the main stream, because each and every person here clawed ouour way here through depression and confusion to share enlightenment. If it goes mainstream the information will reach people before their struggle and it won't do shit for them. 4 years ago, I would have laughed at this sub, but I found it right when I really needed it.

        [–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 37 points38 points  (3 children)

        If it goes mainstream the information will reach people before their struggle and it won't do shit for them.

        Yep, and that's the thing with the Red Pill. Most guys haven't hit rock bottom yet. They haven't yet had a taste of that powerful shame, or loss, or heartbreaking failure that shakes their world and opens their minds. You're not ready to accept the truth until you see that bottom coming up at you.

        You don't "find it when you need it". You need it, and so you start looking.

        [–]cantcme13 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        That was me. Ended a seven year LTR that lasted the majority of my twenties. Went searching. Found The Game by Neil Strauss. Then found TRP and enlightenment. Ready to crush.

        [–]Entrefut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        You know what I thought was weird. Those moments that you're in heart break, that you hate life, that you're so fired up and pissed you can barely think striaght. Those are the moments I could FEEL that something was in conflict. I could literally FEEL that shit in my chest and it sometimes gets so bad that I can see my Dark Triad self, the simplest moat basic part of my human nature was telling me, "Fuck em, none of them matter."

        Then the social conditioning sets in and I think about the past, future and all my "desires" and "expectations of people and how it's so "terrible" that this is how people treat eachother. That's where the conflict lies, in the fact that life is nothing but every man for himself.

        Funny thing is, I love this community, but it's all of you who will be my biggest opponents through life. The "naturals" are predictable and boring honestly. This community is diverse, intimidating and tests people in many ways. I've never found a better place to share my thoughts and feelings about life, makes me rethink the concept of enemies and the dynamics of friendships in general.

        [–]beerthroway 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        Even those that are depressed still don't catch on. My brother, who studied PUA a few years ago with me (mystery method, Strauss, basic tricks), just got out of an LTR where the girl was an alcoholic, gaslighting, 30 year old post wall, wore too much makeup, call you a dick for no reason, shit tests way more frequently than her value, grade F bitch.

        He listened to me talk about what she wants, why she did that, TRP basics. He was ecstatic. Send him the rational male and the sidebar here. He told me he's only read a few paragraphs. He can't handle all that right now and is sort of trying his own monk mode.

        I'm not saying he's wrong in his choice. I understand being so tired you can't pick yourself up, just need a rest. I'm just saying you're entirely right in that it has to be a right place, right time for the brain to latch on to TRP.

        [–]redbluepilling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        With a lot of material that's out there (books, TRP, etc), getting the exposure is the first step. When the time comes that it's 'right', that's when the teeth really sink into it.

        [–]Veritas001 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Great read I really appreciate the brotherhood here. I'm new out of a 5 year relationship and this subreddit has been changing the way I precieve life. Thanks again for the great material and comradery.

        [–]turbo_blender 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        4 years ago, I would have laughed at this sub, but I found it right when I really needed it.

        TRP's the hero Gotham world deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

        [–]epUser 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Same here: moved away from my mothers house, had problemas transitioning to adult life, got depression, anxiety.

        Saw this sub two years ago an thought: "this guys are animals, extremists, this is wrong man, it can't be like this."

        Problems continued, started seeing life for what it is, found this sub again and now it's inverted, I browse the other subs and all I can see are pussies, effeminated men, BP's.

        [–]Jswiizle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I think you are right. We can all relate on that level

        [–]soccerplusaviation 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Same hear. It's become a way of life. In the last two months my view of the world changed drastically. I always knew I was socially awkward I read so many books psychology to help me. Didn't do shit. And then I read the stories and the posts on this site. Then it all clicked. Since then my EQ and IQ has gone up.

        [–]Blumpking69420 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        This might be the best red pill post I've read in a long time, awesome job my man

        [–]Hokerus 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        There is no reason a fake can't seem more real than the real thing. If hypothetically Sean Connery broke down crying next to a guy pretending to be Sean Connery and drinking a martini, which one looks more like Sean Connery? The guy NOT crying, because he captures the essence of what we think of when we see Sean Connery. That is what we are. False Alpha males, beautiful fakes running Alpha software on Beta Hardware. I take a certain smug pride in my fake-ness.

        [–]fortifiedoranges 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        That is some next level shit my friend.

        [–]FuriousMouse 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        I suggest a new category would be helpful for this type of postings. Let's call it "Motivation".

        [–]epUser 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        I'd suggest "personal growth" as it's includes motivation and other more down to earth, pragmatic advices.

        [–]winnnnnnnnn 7 points8 points  (2 children)

        I have to say honestly sense coming here... shxt what's it been a year ago? That this is the mindset that naturally evolved in me. If the redpill has made anything clear its that prioritizing yourself and your personal goals is the pinnacle of human existence. At least in my opinion but so many people seem to miss out on it red pill or not because they're to worried about the bullshit (what others think, society, friends, themselves), etc... get the fuck out of your own way. It also taught me to be honest with myself and identify and check the victim mindset whenever it pops up it can be hard but always taking responsibility even for your own fucked up situation at least gives you some sort of solace in the fact your owning your own shit and that's the same mindset that will allow you to change it. If you work hard enough. Another thing if your quest for women has landed you on the red pill then imo your putting to much emphasis on them in the first place lets be honest with ourselves here. Good thing the red pill checks that shit at the door. A bunch of low SMV guys all pondering how can I get women? I'm not going to say you can't but your mentality is ass backwards. Get into the top 20% first and then worry about chicks. Yea it may be impossible for some but fuck it. All this shit is silly game? theory? Lol... all an attempt to emulate the guys who are swimming in pussy because they forged themselves in steel (High SMV) You think they give a fuck about all this shit? Please lol. Man I mean whatever I was a wounded pup when I came here scared, and confused. Sure I got laid a bit but that's because I just went out and talked to women some of them happened to like me... could've done that without all the pua theory bullshit. Not saying it didn't help the brain is a very powerful thing and I started to get really good at Machiavellian game. I remember at the height of my redpill mania I stripped a girl of all her confidence in about 5 minutes. I feel like she slept with me only so she didn't kill herself lol. At the time that was the highlight of my gaming career... but you know what I got tired of "faking the funk". Or putting pussy before self improvement. Honestly it became tiresome. People are creatures of nurture not nature and gaming with low SMV, lack of social skills, and scatter shot game is a tough job. I commend anyone with the balls to do it. I also developed a metaphor chasing women is like chinese food sure it taste good but what do you do with chinese food after you digest it... EXACTLY. Ok cool you got laid now what. Go out tomorrow and try again? YAY! Not really. I proved to myself that I could get laid and for whatever reason threw myself back into the gym. 8-9 months later I'm ripped/aesthetic as fuck. I've had girls approach me all on their own with wow your gorgeous... or do you model and other dumb shit whenever I'd wear a tank top. It felt good to get attention for something you actually worked for and or increasing your SMV... but those compliments probably came because I genuinely feel like the shit in a tank top because I worked to looked good in one. Anyway I'd be lying if I said I didn't have tons more work to do. I need the lifestyle, and money to go with the body and I can only imagine what it'll be like and I have you guys to thank for that. I'm for sure gonna launch my first app this year because if I can sculpt my body I can sculpt my ideas. Already got about 3 developers interested. Cheers to my first future million. Thank you red pill.

        [–]milkyboon 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        God damn you awesome motherfucker. You are the product of TRP that we should emulate.

        We're all gonna make it brah.

        [–]winnnnnnnnn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Thank you man. Appreciate the kind words... but I'm no longer in dream land and realize I have a lot of work to do. I really wrote this because there's probably a ton of people here on the same wavelength and yes 2015 is the year of the red pillers. Apex level SMV for everybody!

        [–]RICCIedm 14 points15 points  (8 children)

        |In today's world it takes next to nothing to "be alpha," because everyone out there is so fucking beta. The only "men," who appear alpha (outside of communities like this) are idiots who don't know any better.|

        this is so true. we should stop advertising TRP. 90k followers is enough. Let's just rule this shitty world and have fun.

        [–]NowBecoming[S] 28 points29 points  (5 children)

        It doesn't matter if you advertise or not. Be wary of this type of mentality. "Secret knowledge, all for me, these peons don't deserve it," etc. (Picture Golem slobering over his precious).

        The world NEEDS TRP truth... or just fucken truth in general, TRP doesn't have a monopoly on truth. The world needs knowledge. That's why TRP is getting more and more popular.

        Knowledge is amazing and should be offered to those who seek it (but certainly NEVER forced down the throat of those who aren't ready for it). It makes the world a better place. As a concrete example, I'd rather be a middle class European today than noble lord or king in the middle ages. Today's typical person is inconceivable wealthier (in terms of real wealth) than the richest kings 1000 years ago.

        The other thing is, reading information isn't shit. You have to go out there and act. Of the 90k subscribers here, how many are taking massive action towards building the life they want? How many are picking themselves up after they fail over and over and over again? Because that's what it takes...

        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Today's typical person is inconceivable wealthier (in terms of real wealth) than the richest kings 1000 years ago.

        More knowledge -> more progress -> more of everything for everyone (on average).

        But the thing is, no matter how loud you preach, there's always going to be a lot of dudes who just don't get it... So you don't have to worry about too much competition IMO.

        Of the 90k subscribers here, how many are taking massive action towards building the life they want? How many are picking themselves up after they fail over and over and over again? Because that's what it takes...

        Less than 10% I'd say.

        [–]Jswiizle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I don't know about that... I mean at least 25

        [–]dancing_junkie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Shitty state of affairs in this world is the very reason for needing such people. Do what feels right with no though of people's reaction is how you strive for greatness. Creativity comes from that. Creativity is also made out of failing and mistakes. Failure and mistakes are the pillar to success.

        [–]TheThingsIThink 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Alexander the Great took baths in saffron water. It's one of my goals

        [–]RICCIedm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Well, maybe I was spewing too much hate. Today I've realized life isn't a race and now I'm focusing more in enjoying the ride (luckily, improving myself is what I like to do, so I'ma do the same thing, but without the 'need to suceed').

        Thanks for the great text and comment. You helped us twice. Gollum still doesn't want the peons to touch precious

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        We don't advertise it at all. Maybe PM someone who desperately needs it or a close friend, but thats even risky. It gets advertised by the idiots who act like we're "the worst sub on reddit."

        That good ole Streissand effect.

        [–]SuchaN3rd 11 points12 points  (15 children)

        Honestly I lurk here a lot just reading and I am by no means trp. I always thought this is what you guys were (the retard alpha). Some posts come across to me like that and some guys in general come off like that and it turned me off to the trp mentality. I like being intellectual and this post gave me hope. Now, back to the lurk and time to read.

        [–]ROIVeritas -1 points0 points  (14 children)

        I'll tell you right now, you won't enrich yourself intellectually merely by scouring the posts you deem worthy of interest.

        Do yourself a favor, and practice what you leech, from here, at least.

        The fact that you admit that this post gave you hope means that many of the other posts did not. You yourself even admitted to not being TRP, so you must be BP. It's ok. Your not alone.

        You'll be hard pressed to find a retard alpha here,because this sub is for self improvement from the intrinsic to the extrinsic.Self reflection is followed by gradual and steady progressive increase in some ways, and immediately exponential growth in other respects.

        Contribute. Or troll elsewhere. There are hundreds of forums to scour and troll. You came here because something BP, or in your BP mind failed you or seemed inconsistent with logic, and that is why you're here.

        [–]SuchaN3rd 10 points11 points  (13 children)

        The fact that you guys are so hostile to each other is what I'm talking about. I am "blue pill" by your definition because I don't follow every. single. rule. which to me just seems fucked up. I apply trp mentality to my life. I may not be the perfect alpha, but I'm okay with that. I pursue what I want and since swallowing I haven't been denied. That being said, I don't care for parts of the trp mentality and I don't really care what you think of me.

        Edit: forgot to add that I do read pretty much anything that's on there. Granted, I can't read everything, but I don't specifically pick out what I read, it's usually just the top posts of the day because I have more important shit to do with my life than sit and read and discuss 100 different comments and posts.

        [–]epUser 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        The fact that you guys are so hostile to each other is what I'm talking about.

        This is what I fucking like about this place, it's men talking to men, with no fear of offending every delicate soul.

        [–]killego 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        The fact that you guys are so hostile to each other is what I'm talking about.

        What does that mean? You mean how people don't qualify all their statements and have pre-emptive apologies in all their posts?

        That's all feminine bullshit and you shouldn't be put off by its absence.

        [–]ROIVeritas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        The mere fact that the troll gets upvoted is proof his feminist wife and many other silent dwarves are hovering like impending doom all over these subs, with nothing to say, but a goldmine to hack away at.

        Im convinced there is tribe of hermaphrodites getting paid to devalue the veritable nature of the posts here. They have to be paid, to waste time logging on, making a name, not contributing, but actually reading the posts in order to downvote them so when newcomers read this old gold, it seems outdated or invalid.

        The jig is up, you dusty bitches.

        [–]rpscrote 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        The fact that you guys are so hostile to each other is what I'm talking about.

        Grow thicker skin.

        Politeness and political correctness and preemptive apology AREN'T REAL. They are masks that hide how people ACTUALLY FEEL. If you can't handle and appropriately act considering how people ACTUALLY FEEL you will be disappointed, hurt and shit-on forever until you realize you can't live in a fantasy world.

        "Hostility" as you see it is actually just removal of bullshit and talking straight.

        Too damn bad that reality is offensive to people who wish it were different. Welcome to life

        [–]potentialkid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I've been down the same road your on. However he's right we all have blue pill in us (some more than others). This is because there is no perfect alpha.

        Try reading the Rational Male (2013) by Rollo Tomassi he uses logical thing and psychology to reach the conclusions that the Red Pill reached. Believe me your going to regret not fully swallowing the pill in your later years when you develop a oneitis and you wonder what went wrong.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Take what you need and discard the rest. There are those idiots that think they need to follow everything said here to a T to be successful, but a lot of us know that there is some stupid shit that gets said here. Lots of gold, but lots of fool's gold as well. j

        [–]ROIVeritas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I am "blue pill" by your definition because I don't follow every. single. rule. which to me just seems fucked up

        When did I say this? I guess my alter ego took over without me paying attention. I'll apologize anyway, for being right. I'm sorry I'm right. There. I said it.

        I have experience with those who choose to only see what they want to see. It's called selective memory. You're using this right now.

        You embed into your psyche that which strikes a chord with you, positive or negative. And the brain is hard wired and conditioned to remember fear best.

        This is why you put made the above false assumption, and you know what they say about assuming. That's why science and deliberation is beautiful, it doesn't assume anything. Be like that, do yourself another favor.

        You said you dont care what I think of you. Great! You're already on your way to RP and you don't even know it. I sense some butthurt, but nonetheless, you have an A1 day.

        [–]RiseAboveRuin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        My favorite post on TRP to date. Cheers.

        [–]infinae 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Thanks for the prep talk. I'll keep coming back to this thread to keep my head in the game. 19 years old here, lurking for nearly 2 weeks will continue to lurk. :)

        [–]YourShadowScholar 3 points4 points  (17 children)

        Ok. I see a good bit of posts about this, but so what? You can be the best person in the world sitting in a room with a bunch of other people, and nothing will come from it.

        I know I'm amazing, I go out by myself all the time and enjoy being alone fine, but that doesn't lead me to randomly having women swarm me while I'm sitting at the bar of some high end restaurant...

        Intellectually, I don't see cold approaching being very legitimate either, and that seems to be actually agreed upon here.

        So how do you actually get into situations where women are even seeing your magnificence in the first place? And not just women, but attractive women?

        What am I missing here?

        [–]moiez326 0 points1 point  (14 children)

        bruh, it's simple. having hobbies/passions and being involved in things like running groups, cooking classes, dance classes, rock climbing, playing music, etc. women will notice you, you already share an interest....and take things from there. You don't even need to approach since you'll be in the same class/group. Just talk and build up from there. kills the whole cold approach/awkward moments.

        [–]YourShadowScholar 0 points1 point  (13 children)

        I have lots of well developed passions, but none of them that you would go take classes in... or really meet up with people to go do.

        Are you supposed to go to like school for shit to meet people?

        [–]ikarus2k 0 points1 point  (10 children)

        have a passion, share that passion with other people (that should come naturally) - form a band, go to a cooking class, go to a dancing event (like a milonga). The rest will come by itself. Don't do something for anybody else, do it because you want to.

        [–]YourShadowScholar 0 points1 point  (9 children)

        Those are literally the only three things anyone ever says on here... I have zero interest in any of those three things.

        [–]stickclixx 0 points1 point  (8 children)

        Then make something else up. Complaining about how hard it is to meet women = never meet women.

        [–]YourShadowScholar 0 points1 point  (7 children)

        Is the point to follow women wherever they go? Or to have genuine passions?

        [–]ikarus2k 0 points1 point  (6 children)

        what are your passions? btw, what stickclixx meant was stop trying to find an excuse not to do something.

        [–]moiez326 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        i guess pretty much...that or start engaging in hobbies that are social. Don't worry that you're new to something; it can be really fun yeh? you'll meet other girls that are novices too so you can easily start conversations and "practice" together, etc.

        [–]NowBecoming[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        What do you do in your life? Like as your profession? Are you a student?

        What spaces do you occupy on a daily basis? Do you talk to women for other reasons besides picking them up? Do you look at women in these spaces, make eye contact, smile etc?

        In my line of work I talk to female clients and colleagues all the time. I often ride the bus and I've met a few girls either on the bus or waiting at the bus stop for example. Or I don't know... waiting for a doctors appointment... at the grocery store... I mean women are everywhere dude. And it usually takes only a couple sentences before they start qualifying themselves to you.

        But that's the whole thing if you're "the best person in the world," or even a somewhat developed person, you will rarely be sitting in a room with other people and not talking or doing something with them...

        [–]YourShadowScholar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I see ten different specialists... and I spend half my time in doctor's offices trying to get a rare autoimmune disorder under control. I've never seen a girl under 50 in any of them though.

        I occupy coffee shops, and high end restaurants, or else my house for the most part.

        You pick up your clients and colleagues?... I don't have any of those. I'm a self-employed college admissions consultant. My clients are high school kids.

        I never take the bus (live in LA, you drive your car everywhere).

        Anyhow, although there are virtually never single women I ever see, let's suppose they are encountered somehow out there. What are the first few sentences?

        Can you explain to me how this works btw? How do you not betray interest by being the person that goes and talks to someone?

        "But that's the whole thing if you're "the best person in the world," or even a somewhat developed person, you will rarely be sitting in a room with other people and not talking or doing something with them..."

        Yeah...funny thing I guess, I am pretty social, and have actually made a bunch of friends in those environments, who share my passions, but they're pretty much all men. Women don't ever seem to do anything alone, whereas men do.

        [–]asiank1ng 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Great post. I really like how you addressed the fake alpha fad. yeah sure, someone may appear to be alpha but chances are they may not be what you'd expect them to be.

        [–]ROIVeritas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        This^

        Most fake alphas aren't self made, and all that they do is truly to impress other men who are less accomplished in the material sense.

        They usually aim to belittle other men by comparison, especially in the presence of women. Nothing they do is for self, its all about the image, the symbol with no substance.

        [–]robjnava 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Holy shit that was beautiful man.

        I'm saving this because this just inspired me to keep lifting, to keep trying, to keep improving. Thanks bro.

        [–]LarryLove 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I feel like going to the bar by myself tonight

        [–]reddiforlove 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Great post, a lot of well articulated truth here. Intelligent alphas are truly a rare and valuable thing in the sexual marketplace. The idea that women prefer an intelligent alpha over an ignorant one seems a bit like wishful thinking to me however.

        I have seen absolutely nothing that supports that notion. All things being equal, (game, money, status, looks) I would put my money on most girls choosing the ignorant alpha every time. There's something about that undeserved arrogance, spontaneous cruelty, and lack of foresight that they find irresistible. Even among natural alphas, I've found that the bigger douchebag usually gets the girl.

        The good news is that it doesn't really matter either way. Beauty is extremely common, and there are plenty of hot girls to go around.

        [–]ValarMorghulis90 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I'd like to request a sticky somewhere if at all possible. Maybe even side bar. This post is fucking awesome. Really hits home on the perfect balance of being a baller by getting shit done or "building the kingdom" (perfect name for a link) and getting women. I for one am bookmarking this shit. Great read to get motivated.

        [–]EurasianAesthetics 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Nice post and I sense the subtle frustration you feel for your fellow men. I share the same frustration with you - I see so many men around me that look weak as piss. They look like junk and act like junk and then seem surprised that women don't want them. They have it within them, but yet they're being the worst version of themselves. Get off your computer games and play the reall MMORPG: YOUR LIFE!!!

        [–]Jehosh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Been lurking here for a little while now. I stop posting and commenting on reddit for a while because, well, I was sick of all the bullshit on it. This post right here though, I logged in for the first time in around two months to say FUCK YEAH. This is why I'm taking the pill, hitting the gym every morning, fighting to forge myself into something better. It's not for the women, it's not for anyone else. This shit is about forging myself into the best version of myself I can possibly be. Thanks for this post OP. It's appreciated.

        [–]mypenisislarge123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        this is what i needed after a 3 year, almost a 4 year relationship

        [–]sukhvirk150[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Thank you for this brother.

        You spoke directly to me.

        I've been feeling much of what you're saying. There are a lot of positive changes adding up in my life from the years of effort I've put in. People, even a friend of 6 years, are trying to throw me off since they're intimidated. Only more reason to push on and lift even more people up.

        Thank you.

        [–]PeteMullersKeyboard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        This is the best post I've ever read on here, because it's 100% true and encompasses everything that any man needs to know.

        I'm sure I won't gain any points by saying this either, but I need to say it. I feel like many, many of the posts here are by the so-called "naturals" that you describe, people who need these "trick" (if they can be even called such) to achieve any sort of "success" (again, subjective definition) with women.

        I get sick and tired of reading these "game" posts or "field reports" that seem to roughly approximate someone whose only skills in life are lifting, drinking beer, yelling at the TV during UFC fights, and wearing Tap Out apparel. I'm not pointing any finger per se, and it seems most repeat quality contributors here are absolutely not of this mindset. However, I see posts that seemed to have been authored by such in the past, and it's always very...disappointing.

        I am someone that is sort of following the path you laid out in your piece, as I suspect some here are. I went from being a nobody during my childhood, to being a nerdy nobody in high school, to becoming much more popular, stylish, and confident in college. Looking back, I never really think of it as becoming a new person, more of just realizing the person I always was inside. So, I think it's within the scope of any reasonably "average" guy to make such a transformation. I'm in reasonable shape, attractive, dress well, and am very confident when speaking to women. I don't play games, I just am who I am and I find that very often, attractive (and intelligent) women are attracted to who I am. I like this. I don't need to pretend to be anything other than what I am.

        I feel like, as you say, this is the ultimate goal of this sub. Not to memorize some bullshit book of hack tricks in hopes that maybe you can hide who you are long enough to bed some random, vapid club slut. But instead to become a confident, powerful, successful, and attractive man that attracts women (and people, success, opportunity) towards himself just by existing. I really can't put it any better than you did.

        Once again, thanks very much for writing this, you nailed it. This should really be required reading for everybody who visits this sub. Shit, if this is all you take away from this sub, and read this every day to yourself when you feel life closing in, you're going to go very far.

        [–]Zachar1a 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        This post belongs on the sidebar.

        [–]BCFtrip 2 points3 points  (4 children)

        Yesterday I slept with a 43 year old decathlete(I'm 20). She doesn't even have a stretch mark on her body, she's rich, and even SHE can't find decent marriage material anymore. If you want to know how to translate redpill concepts into palatable language, listen to a jaded divorcee woman.

        [–]drrtyfrrnr 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        Most women love a guy who achieves and excels (decathletes), most men love a woman who is feminine and soft. She probably thought that men wanted the same thing she wanted.

        [–]BCFtrip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        She walks a fine line in that regard, I should've been clearer and said former decathlete, now just a crossfitter. On the other hand, she was a nurse(feminine, caring profession), and she still has tits enough for me and probably anyone, and her skin's softer than anyone my age I've slept with. My point is she's taken care of herself and is in impeccable form, and still cant find anyone alpha enough for her age&kinks. Fuckin scarcity man, must be rough.

        [–]BCFtrip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Oh and the part about her being rich is just the divorce settlement from a mortgage broker. So she completely followed the average woman's behavior model that you're bringing up, chasing success and excellence, and then she ran up against the beta core underneath the money. I keep referring to her as an example because I've never met any single person who embodies so many rp concepts and predictions. Submissive, hypergamous, confused, and starved for masculinity. She's practically a case study.

        [–]CommodoreSillyPants 2 points3 points  (8 children)

        This post is amazing, and I think is a good direction for TRP as a community to head down.

        On a side note, what does 'HB' or 'HB7' so on and so forth mean? There's nothing about it in the glossary and I see it a lot.

        [–]NowBecoming[S] 4 points5 points  (6 children)

        Hot Babe/Hot Bitch... at least that's how I used it.

        [–]NeopolitanAfterglow 3 points4 points  (5 children)

        Though I've always wondered how low the scale can go. Are there HB1?

        [–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        If 5 is an average chick, 6 would logically be the lowest level of hotness, eg: "remotely hot" or "somewhat hot"

        [–]MUTHAFATHAGENTLEMAN 8 points9 points  (3 children)

        Here's a handy guide. http://i.imgur.com/s2G9yfI.jpg

        [–]drrtyfrrnr 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Nice chart, except average Koreans are just that - average. A lot of them have bad skin, short hair and wide flat noses. The girls in the chart are actually the top 1%.

        [–]MUTHAFATHAGENTLEMAN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Yeh, the average is more like this. http://imgur.com/0cvkoMC

        To be honest though, I recommend a 1/0 scale. Either you're attracted to her, or you're not.

        [–]BigTimeStuff1 1 point2 points  (4 children)

        I love this post. I too am in the 'larval' stage. I'm in medical school, I'm good looking, I work out, YET I'm losing all my hair at 27. Quite a devastating blow for continuing my RP quest if I must say.

        [–]putsch80 5 points6 points  (2 children)

        34 year old. Lost my hair a while back. Just shave it all. It's hard letting go (believe me, I know), but the smooth scalp look quickly becomes the new you. Eventually, people see old pictures of you and had totally forgotten what you looked like with hair. And most girls don't dock points for being totally smooth on top.

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          [–]sweely 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Chicks love guys without hair, shave it all off mate :)

          [–]SirScotland 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          My favorite post I have seen recently - very inspirational!

          [–]pnt9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I know many have said the same thing, but this is a great summary of how I'm choosing to live my life now. I'll make sure to come back to it, and maybe rewrite it in my own words as a personal journal. Thanks, man.

          [–]Adach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          this is the best thing I've read in a long time

          [–]Entrefut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Quoted that last section, ty man.

          [–]scartysquatch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I have nothing to say other than, this is a good post. Good stuff bud.

          [–]rockumsockumrobots 0 points1 point  (4 children)

          Oh yeah, and WORK YOUR ASS OFF.

          How do you guys stay motivated? I can stay motivated if I'm making money, but in other stuff like studying I lose motivation. Suggestions appreciated, thanks.

          [–]J_Dizzle1000 2 points3 points  (3 children)

          Brah,I know your pain. But to be honest, it comes from inside. If you have not taken the time to Read The Rational Male, torrent the book and start your journey there.

          Alpha is a mindset, not a demographic. It comes from within. I take every day at a time and I started keeping a journal. Whenever I feel like I'm losing steam I reflect on my journal from the week before. I keep each day split into 2 categories: Thoughts and feelings I've had from the day and TRP stuff I have seen in practice, including results from things I have worked on and just examples of guys and relationships I notice.

          After a few weeks it'll become easier. The first two weeks are the hardest. I'm about to break through the thresh hold into creating a habit and I reflect on the journal and the small victories I've been making every day. Plus a motivational poster or two won't hurt. I keep a sign that says recommit above my door. I look at it every morning when I leave my room. Keep your head up, charlie mike to complete your mission. One day at a time my brother. One day at a time.

          [–]rockumsockumrobots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Thanks for this post.

          I'll read The Rational Male and start keeping a journal. I think it would help to keep me motivated and honest about my progress. Congratulations on creating good habits. Best of luck to you!

          [–]dimmy666 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          torrent the book

          Dude, you can read every single article from the book on Rollo's blog, for free. Why'd you pirate the book?

          [–]J_Dizzle1000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Because I wanted to have a copy. I go to his website to get the individual articles when I need, but I just wanted to have a copy for my own just in case.

          [–]Bippotybop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Fucking great read. I got a boner at first but then told my boner to take a seat on my balls until I need to rest with some tail.

          [–]Pyro12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Love these motivation posts. Since reading TRP I'm currently taking less than 1600 cals loaded with protein and carbs and very few fatty foods. I'm hitting the gym and dieting like never before, hopefully in 4 months I will be at my goal. That means I will be a 6'0 178 lb lean, mean fucking machine.

          [–]workdavework 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Nice post, saved for future reference

          [–]Colonel_Cummings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          This is poetry. As a new TRP user around, this is something that makes me want to keep working on my fucking confidence and mostly, on the person I am. Stay sharp bro.

          [–]fuck_da_haes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Thanks for the second to last paragraph, otherwise it would be feel good bullshit.

          [–]stealthcreeper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Thank you my good sir, if I had any gold I would give it to ya, you have my tears though :')

          [–]1sailorJery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          This line

          he acts without thinking.

          seems counter to the next paragraph

          Their problem is that they think too much and don't act enough--or decisively enough.

          [–]soccerplusaviation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Awesome post. You hit a spark when you said HB are a dime a dozen. I can recall from my uni days They are everywhere. No need to worry about scarcity when it comes to them. On the other hand, they were very few intelligent alphas. Very few. Your right in western society, you just need to be socially and emotionally smart and choose the path you want to go.

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            [–]milkyboon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Try searching inside TRP itself. Tick the limit my search to /r/Theredpill

            [–]Masonjarteadrinker2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Nice post it's a feel good post though but still, nice post.

            [–]Moneyley 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I pictured Rudy Rutteger saying this to all of us as he stands on a chair "we're gonna get em on the run boys"

            Excellent post!

            [–]200mgtestc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Dread game for him isn't even a game. He doesn't even have to do anything because his GF/Wife knows that he can get chicks at the drop of a hat. And so she works her ass off to keep him happy.

            I don't think I've seen it put better. Guys in LTR's: soft dread game isn't a game or tactic, it's a way of life. And not a bad one.

            [–]newmeforever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Great post.

            Thank you, brother!

            [–]newmeforever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Great post.

            Thank you, brother!

            [–]monsieurhire2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Yep. Couldn't agree more. But there are self-made women out there, but they're few and far between. The likelihood of it working between a self-made man and a self-made woman is close to nil because it would be never-ending struggle for dominance. That's why, as a man, you must find a woman who complements you. Equality is a myth.

            [–]mauripj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            This was one of the most amazing posts I've ever seen on this site. Well done sir.

            [–]SixthAxiom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Absolutely fantastic. Thanks for posting.

            [–]anthrackz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I can finally read tap merging like this without the guilt of knowing that I will give in to fear. Thank you for the inspiring post!

            [–]wearnocrowns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            This article leaves me speechless. I've gone through countless stuff and been confronted with various standpoints but nothing stands out as being so mature and brilliant as this post.

            It was a long and pretty painful journey but I feel proud of ending up in this sub.

            [–]BroflexMcMansteel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Awesome.

            Slow and steady improvement is how you get there. This mindset is a natural consequence of improving yourself and pushing yourself. There are no shortcuts. All that matters is that you keep going forward, even if you go slowly.

            [–]ROIVeritas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            This is one of my favorite posts on RP thus far. Excellent perception.

            [–]fhghg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            True. Your ancestors are kings and warlords because that's who fucked the most. You're not that different.

            [–]poopscock1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Alright, which one of you little dildos reported my valuable contributing comments? There is danger actually believing this high school nerd turned g unit big swinging dik fantasy bs. One day you just may run into a real sociopath who doesn't like the cut of your fake jib, stomp you good and not give a fook about it.

            [–]watersign -1 points0 points  (0 children)

            so TL;Dr..just get good at life and it will come naturally..lol

            [–]raiseurT -1 points0 points  (0 children)

            No. The 'retard alpha's" you're trying to talk down on are simply alpha's, yes they come in different degrees of intelligence, but it doesn't make them not alpha, because above all else, they are confident. You're attempt at defining an alpha is the typical PC re-write crap.

            [–]FrameWalker -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

            What if the premise is wrong here? What if there are a decent amount of alphas out there, but you just don't have access/haven't seen it. Don't get comfortable. Don't believe that because you read TRP you are in an elite group. There is so much to this world and 90k subscribers plus lurkers is such a small speck of humanity. I would argue 10% of men are alphas - primarily self-made. Alpha also depends on context.

            [–]LibertarianLibertine 3 points4 points  (3 children)

            Of course you get downvoted, because this post is a circlejerk for newbies that want to believe they are alpha's instead of ugly insecure nerds now that they've found this sub.

            This entire post is nothing else but "look at us being awesome, only the people on TRP are the real deal!".

            Fucking bullshit.

            [–]FrameWalker 1 point2 points  (2 children)

            lol let's see how low I can go. If TRP wants to delude itself for a few months that's fine, someone else will start to fuck their women

            [–]chrisindub -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

            There is something called dunning-kruger effect that applies here in a big way.

            Because you are not really a natural type alpha, you do not have natural type alpha skills.

            Without having natural alpha skills its impossible for you to recognize these skills in someone else that is a natural alpha.

            So, just like women that find natural alphas irresistible and fail to understand them, you see that a natural alpha has amazing game, but fail to recognize the skills they have that make them so naturally superior.

            So you get really beta and resentful of natural alphas and type up a long manifesto to try and take power away from them and make a comnunity think you are superior in some way, and girls prefer you.

            Its all bullshit. You are so beta, you waste time trying to convince people how not beta you are. Lol

            Real alphas don't feel compelled to tell people how alpha they are.