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[–]16 Endorsed Contributornicethingyoucanthave 128 points129 points  (14 children)

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low quality women

Quality for what purpose? For marriage? LTR? Or just for fucking?

That's the question you need to answer in order to understand what's going on. If she's hot, then she is indeed a high-quality (for fucking) woman, and men are not actually artificially raising her value.

[–]1johnnight 84 points85 points  (3 children)

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Her only delusion is that she has high relationship value while she has only fuck value. This game has two arenas.

[–]1kick6 17 points18 points  (1 child)

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It sounds like she's not delusional at all. She gets what she wants out of life (drugs and booze) with her high fuck value. Relationship value isn't even on the radar at this point.

[–]erthian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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They think guys like them for other reasons... They can't and won't admit their lack of value because women are terrified of being seen as sluts. They have to pretend they have other virtues otherwise they might actually have to do some work to better them selves.

[–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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Hear, hear!

[–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 72 points73 points  (2 children)

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Exactly.

If she sells herself as a good fuck, and only a good fuck, then fuck her. It's her own fault that she's gonna hit The Wall at full speed nine years from now.

[–]1FloranHunter 48 points49 points  (1 child)

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Sooner probably, with heavy drug use.

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    [–]draketton 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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    How many of the guys who throw themselves at her know about her baby and her drug problems? I'd guess not very many.

    [–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    I imagine a drugged out chick will look like one of those chicks from a before and after in a make-up comparison.

    [–]PlusGoody 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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    I'd go further. Quality is as it does: attract. Now maybe she attracts low grade, but still she attracts.

    [–]someotherdudeagain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    The Hep

    [–]SILENTSAM69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    Even when it is just for fucking their value is artificial if they have all those problems.

    They do not see how badly everything will go after a few more years, and she starts to loose her looks. She will be looking for something to cling to when it gives her attention after that.

    [–]RedPillScare 21 points22 points  (6 children)

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    Yep. We've got a girl who looks like Maggie Grace plus 40 lbs. She's in IT, always getting help from the real techs on basic things. Constantly AW'ing like a 10. Thinks it's OK to Skype with friends at work. Sings The Lion King, poorly, at the top of her lungs. Wears tight clothes that highlight her weight. It's gross.

    Overheard her humble-bragging about how much attention she gets, and how her husband blah blah blah.

    And the guys she works with eat that shit up like it's candy. Reinforcing the delusions of hotness. Demand ≠ hotness.

    [–]goatfishsandwich[S] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

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    Lol wow wtf

    [–]drallcom3 9 points10 points  (2 children)

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    You sound like you don't work in IT. That's unfortunately a common occurrence.

    One if the women in my office is a fat whale who can't even wear regular pants. She does have a skinny bf with a bad haircut. So yeah, even they can easily get attention.

    [–]smokeybehr 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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    Ah, a little Jack Sprat and his wife action there, eh? I see that shit all the time.

    [–]drallcom3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    And then there's the mousy 33 yo who got a divorce just to be together with an incredibly boring project manager.

    Sometimes I'm glad that these people take each other out if the dating pool.

    [–]1iluminatiNYC -1 points0 points  (1 child)

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    Ah, I've seen you've experienced engineering syndrome at its peak, though granted I've never seen it with someone who was truly fugly. In my experience, it's more average women who get that upgrade. The only known cure is to avoid fishing off the company pier, and preferably fish in better-stocked waters.

    [–]RedPillScare 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    Yeah, that's the thing. Physically, if she lost the weight, she'd be in the HB 8-9 range. Then she would drop two points after she spoke. And a few more when you spent an hour with her and for to experience :

    • 4 Disney songs sung
    • 12 random observations about how cute/adorable something is, usually in a voice 15db louder than anyone around her
    • 5 random lines of song from musical theater interrupting your point
    • 27 random noises you'd expect to hear in a jungle aviary at the zoo.

    Seriously, her husband should drown her. Or maybe remove her vocal chords. And my company should replace her with a bucket of Crisco or a balloon animal artist from Applebee's.

    Oh, and even if I did fish from the company pier: nope. Nope. Nope. Not even once. No! I've been on long success streak of "Don't Kill Anyone". I'm certain I would have to restart my counter after driving back from the desert with a shovel and an empty bucket of lye.

    [–]1pcadrian 192 points193 points  (32 children)

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    Desperate/thirsty guys are artificially raising the value of these low quality women

    Yup you guessed it - it's OUR fault. It's ultimately men who let things get to this point by encouraging (perhaps unconsciously) and rewarding low quality females.

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      [–]2jagrmeister721 38 points39 points  (4 children)

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      I blame both. Women are at fault as well. In the past, women found an equal-SMV man and traded her sexual prime for his lifelong commitment. Now, women punch above their weight with high-SMV men and foolishly expect commitment. But since they get sexual validation, they think there's nothing wrong with their 'attitude'. (So if you're going to blame men, blame us more specifically for having sex without commitment and plating chicks. That' how they get an unrealistic sense of their value.) Not all women "are women" (in your terms), meaning recklessly vine-swinging and aiming out of their league only to get fucked and chucked. Some rightly assess their SMV and form a loving relationship with a man. Not all surrender to animal instinct. Those women obviously deserve no blame. The ones who ruin their lives, ruin the lives of men- and collectively keep 50% of guys out of the game by being drawn to superficial alpha criteria like full-sleeve tattoos and a criminal record - yes, I'll happily blame them as well.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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      Apologies, but what is SMV ? I'm new here.

      [–]DudeZoltan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      Sexual Market Value.

      [–]darkmode2 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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      I dont blame neither men will be attracted to women and women will always like validation. The redpill is about understanding not blaming, so we can change our self and use the situation to our advantage or avoid it if it not and help if we want. The redpill is like havening some god power. you just stop blaming because you start seeing people in there true nature, not with some bluepill expectation of them.

      [–]2jagrmeister721 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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      I disagree. Roosh is the best example of someone who games women by day (adapts to the situation for individual gain) but ALSO calls women out on their BS on his blog and through ROK. Why? Because the truth needs to be spoken. He gets laid as much as anyone on here but he still publishes exposes on the demented nature of your modern woman (not excusing their every misstep for "being women").

      It's not about "morality"; objectively speaking, women adopting certain actions that harm themselves (and others). Why turn a blind eye towards it? Now (assuming one isn't MGTOW) I agree one shouldn't be butthurt all day long and refuse to get out into the field because of hangups about female behavior. But you don't need to lie to yourself and say that everything women is doing just fine. Because it's not.

      Again, it's not a moralistic stance; it's objectively observing certain decisions women make lower their quality of life and ours (and justifying their behavior by saying "it's because they're women" doesn't cut it when many women don't surrender to the same instincts). There's no reason you can't game AND call women out their collective BS.

      [–]CouldntFindGudName 21 points22 points  (0 children)

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      You are wrong buddy. We men are women haters and we think all the problems in this world are caused by women and we are never wrong.

      check your privilege.

      But on a serious note. It's upto men or any individual to see their faults and change them for improving themselves. This is what we teach here, and yes there are so many desperate guys around that they will give attention to any girl they get in contact with. These guys are thinking with only their dicks. with attention these girls think they are important and when they get old, getting no attention. it's the patriarch societys fault. She joins so called feminism and forever ruins herself.

      [–]MattBoBat 48 points49 points  (4 children)

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      Desperate, thirsty, and oblivious dudes are definitely inflating the female ego.

      For each beta orbiter a girl snags, her self-image and ego skyrocket through the fuckin' roof. Imagine having 5-10 women at a single time blowing up your phone calling you their king. Willing to jump at a moments notice for whatever you may want or need...

      That is the equivalent of what a modern day, decently attractive woman experiences, so it's not a mystery as to why they think they are gods gift to men.

      On the other hand though, being aware of this modern day phenomenon can put a man a step ahead of the competition, so it is essential to understand, accept, and calibrate accordingly in order to attain the ultimate goal.

      Let the beta orbiters watch from a distance and pray some scraps fall their way while you feast.

      [–]rarlcove 21 points22 points  (2 children)

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      Which is why we should encourage beta-shaming as much as possible. Women behave the way they do because it works, because we let them get away with it. Time to change that.

      [–]SomersetRaglan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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      slow down there, cowboy.

      [–]1pcadrian -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

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      Beta shaming simply won't work because there is strength in numbers.

      [–]slcjosh 31 points32 points  (2 children)

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      i think a lot of it has to do with the low quality males on this planet too, low quality males pandering to low quality females for a piece of pity poon. The cycle is sad.

      [–]rztzz 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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      In the end it all has to do with testosterone.

      There's a great "This American Life" podcast on testosterone. A butch lesbian woman undergoes testosterone therapy to convert to a male, all of a sudden starts objectifying more and more women uncontrollably. Really interesting topic.

      [–]1iluminatiNYC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      Excellent points. Transmen gets the Red Pill if only because no matter how manly they feel, they've spent their formative years being dealt with as a woman. They can't help but get the bigger picture.

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        [–]1pcadrian 23 points24 points  (5 children)

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        My first impulse is to want to beat the shit out of guys like this.

        Unnecessary. With that kind of behaviour, they're essentially beating the shit out of themselves, probably for the rest of their lives.

        [–]2jagrmeister721 20 points21 points  (3 children)

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        They're beating the shit out of ALL of us, by creating inflated egos in twats that end up becoming our problem. Negging the living daylights out of a 6 and taming her primadonna behavior is do-able but the only reason it's this much of a headache is because there are legions of these horndogs who think it's cool to advertise their sexual desperation to average women.

        They think they are more "masculine" for going on about 'what they would do to some girl'. And other guys are 'gay' for not droning on about a woman's tits. Then, these imbeciles go up and hero worship these women to their face, creating externalities for all other men. The damage they do more broadly to men far exceeds the harm they do their own chances.

        I second SuperAwesomeness- let's find these men and beat the shit out them.

        [–]AveofSpades 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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        I second SuperAwesomeness- let's find these men and beat the shit out them.

        I prefer to fuck their angel and send them the video when they get uppity

        [–]moalfred 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        Eh....unless they've got themselves a 7+ you should let their penises suffer. Not yours.

        [–]1iluminatiNYC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        That's a better way to look at it. Show, don't tell. :)

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        Except he's not just shitting in his bowl of cornflakes, he's shitting in the box. Behavior like that drives up the price for everyone.

        [–]Kwizkey 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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        Haha, I do feel that the more I understand RP and grow into it, the more I almost despise men like this. I feel my respect for them plummet whenever they give undeserved attention and concern to a girl. How many times have I seen a dude drop his friends for a chance to talk to/ spend time with a girl with a pretty face? Too damn often.

        [–]Jack_Sophmore 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        Well these seduction groups can only preach "hit on 10 women a day" to so many people before they start to change the landscape. I think Thatcher point has been reached.

        [–]charlie_bodango 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        It's a pussy bubble in the cock market!

        [–]EarnestMalware 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        Someone has to be the adult.

        [–]pericardiyum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        I was just thinking this the other day. I almost can't blame these women, and it really bothers me because a solution becomes that much more complex.

        [–]No_disintegrations 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        So they can blame the patriarchy for being cunts.. Brilliant.

        [–]backspintron 32 points33 points  (2 children)

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        I've seen this happen too, but I also noticed it doesn't really happen with truly attractive women. It's always the girls that are in the cute but trashy category (which sounds like the girl you described).

        Personally, I think flaunting how much male attention she gets is just a ploy that pretty (but not pretty enough) girls do in an attempt to further raise their value in front of men.

        It also seems that these same girls that fit into the cute/trashy but not really gorgeous category are the ones getting a disproportionate amount of obvious male attention. The 9s and 10s are too intimidating, but the 6s and 7s are pretty enough for men to be attracted to and give attention to. Leading these girls to think they are more attractive than they really are.

        [–]goatfishsandwich[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

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        You nailed it. Couldn't agree more

        [–]melikeurface 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        Yup, this describes my co worker fairly well.

        [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (3 children)

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        Essentially you should see these orbiters as people setting up the volleyball for you to spike it with your novelty frame (as far as her experience is concerned).

        [–]goatfishsandwich[S] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

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        Don't know if that's a good idea... I try to stay away from single moms with issues

        [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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        Desperate/thirsty guys are artificially raising the value of these low quality women.

        Was in reply to that.

        [–]DogInTheBath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        Those are fun women to fuck though...

        [–]MahlerNinth 14 points15 points  (1 child)

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        4s, 5s and 6s behave as if they're 8s, 9s and 10s.

        So all the more reason to just ignore them entirely and only focus on interacting with the 8s, 9s and 10s - you'll get the same behavior, entitlement and hamstering, but with better looks. Just walk by the trash and ignore it, while waiting for the garbagemen to take care of it.

        [–]goatfishsandwich[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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        True. I like the garbagemen analogy. lol

        [–]culofiesta 42 points43 points  (32 children)

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        The fat ones know they aren't tens but are putting up a front to enable their nonexistent self esteem. They know they are pigs, they just don't want people to think they know.

        [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 48 points49 points  (24 children)

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        I have to confess...

        I've banged some big girls because I heard the BJ was a 10/10. I won't lie.

        When they can suck every last drop out without a hint of breaking rhythm, in the past, I've been prone to letting them do so.

        Don't judge. It's an Achilles heel.

        [–]ilovemyself101 17 points18 points  (15 children)

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        Yeah they have fuck value but not LTR or maybe not even spin value

        [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 35 points36 points  (13 children)

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        Once you get the 5 diamond - ZagatTM Top Rated World Class Blow Job - you're going to want to get that again.

        Has anyone ever gotten a chick talented enough to lick your balls and deep throat you at the same time - and then slurp it out of you like she's savoring a sweet nectar? That shit can put a spell on you - damn.

        [–]Fred_Flintstone 27 points28 points  (6 children)

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        TIL I have never lived

        [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 23 points24 points  (5 children)

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        Yeah brother, the first time I got a chick to lay a blow job on me like that I was about 22-23.

        I was head waiter of a restaurant and one of the waitresses that worked there was this smoking hot 32 year old chick with jet black hair. She was so damn fine, the owner pull me aside one night after work when we all having cocktails and asked me "How the fuck did you get with that?" - I shrugged my shoulders and smiled and he said "Holy shit he doesn't even know"

        Me and this woman hung out a few times drinking at bars at first, partying together, but she wouldn't put it out to me. She would get drunk and make out with me, but she wouldn't let me hit it. After a few nights of this, I stopped kissing her, was my normal aloof self and just had a good time partying with this little group we were in. I didn't get pissed or brood over it - my attitude was just "Oh well..." Two nights later, while we out in our group - I was being especially funny and animated, laughing my ass off and just having a great time she pulls at my arm and looks right into my eyes and says "OK" and I was like "OK what?" - she says "You can come home with me tonight" - and I kid you not my reaction was "Ha ha cool!" and I kept laughing and joking like nothing happened.

        We went back to her house and she laid one on me like you wouldn't believe. She gave the first true to life A+, top tier legendary blow job I ever got. After I busted my nut, she kept going and sucked me back hard and I gave her the hardest longest pounding I was physically able to give.

        When you get a BJ like that - it's like flipping the NOS switch on a fast and furious muscle car - you get adrenaline you didn't think you had.

        I fucked her for about 3 months - and the pussy was so damn good I eventually succumbed to oneitis and she dumped me. Funny though... When she did end it - giving me the I'm too young for her speech, I wasn't even mad. I described it to friends like I was a surfer who caught the big wave - and shredded that shit as hard I could until it crashed on the shore. When it was over - I didn't lament. I just said fuck it and swam out looking for the next big wave.

        Shortly after that I met the girl who gave me the best BJ of my life - and I ended up in a 1.5 year roller coaster ride of an on again - off again LTR with her. She was a crazy bitch - a lunatic, but I didn't give a shit - I spun plates on the side. She always gave me great blow jobs, but when she sensed I was getting sick of her shit, she'd put an extra special one on me and keep me interested for a little while longer. That chick had ZERO gag reflex. She swallowed it tip to base fast and in rapid succession and then rubbed it all over face like the head was a ban roll on applicator - she had like 5 different go to moves all were totally off the hook. She was the queen of blow jobs. Eventually I got sick of her insanity and kicked her to the curb - but after 1-2 years of that I got spoiled when it came to BJs.

        I've had other world class BJs - but those two girls stood out from the rest.

        [–]melikeurface 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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        I was a surfer who caught the big wave - and shredded that shit as hard I could until it crashed on the shore. When it was over - I didn't lament. I just said fuck it and swam out looking for the next big wave.

        Great analogy/quote to follow. This is my mindset.

        [–]CallMeMrBadGuy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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        Funny though... When she did end it - giving me the I'm too young for her speech, I wasn't even mad.

        Been there. It's like an unlocked achievement that just makes not care about anything else. I had one bitch who sucked the nut out of me and later found out she was attempting to twotime me for whatever reason (likely my lack of emotional attachment). No fucks could be given after the facial abuse she allowed me to do on her.

        I actually became a fan of gagging porn vids after that experience. She wasnt fat though, just French. Though, another fat chick I once fucked had awesome BJ skills and HJ skills. Though, even though she alone was more skilled than most any skinny chicks Ive fucked, Im personally just too anti fat chicks, and it was basically a fuck because I needed to use her house for lodging for a few weeks.

        [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        The chick with the black hair was a 9/10 hottie.

        The next one was a 7/10.

        Those two were worth sticking around for - the other assorted blow job queens I've had were really just good for the moment. Some lasted longer than others. Some not very long at all.

        I'm lucky, I think, to have been able to get the quality of blow jobs that I have gotten in my life. Maybe I'm jaded. The first few times I got BJs like that - I have to admit that shit had me spellbound, though.

        Now I'm like meh.. I don't have the fever like I had in my 20s. That shit was fun though - goddamn.

        Another trick I've enjoyed (and still do) is when I'm fucking and I pull out right before coming and get it sucked out of me. That blows up a nut big time.

        [–]Hardparty 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        Awesome read. Great writing, in depth analysis of blowjobs.

        [–]1iluminatiNYC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        slow clap leading to standing applause I've been there brother. I've been there, and it takes some mental strength to overcome that oooWEEE (shouts to Ice Cube). Glad you were able to pull it off though.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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        But then you look down and see a hamplanet.... spell broken

        [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        Thank goodness for that lol.

        [–]MagicGainbow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        Truth, especially when they keep sucking after you've come...that shit is intense.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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        Why do big girls give the best head?

        Because they're hungry.

        [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        Oldie but goodie

        [–]SomersetRaglan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        black chicks.

        to expound on this, there are genetic traits which make their mouth's better suited to the job, especially for those of us well endowed in the size department.

        [–]Fred_Flintstone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        Yeah too much angular momentum

        [–]-RobotDeathSquad- 2 points3 points  (6 children)

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        How fat are they?

        [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 11 points12 points  (5 children)

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        There's always a comedian...

        OK..

        They're so fat...

        ...They eat cereal out of satellite dishes.

        ...They bleed chocolate milk

        ...They can't even float in space

        ...Their asses can vote in two districts

        ...They look like they're smuggling Volkswagens

        ...I use bacon as bait

        ...When they haul ass they gotta make two trips

        ...They get turned on reading cookbooks

        ...Their driver's licenses need both sides to show the picture

        ...Their Facebook pic is an aerial shot

        ...When they ask me to hit it from behind I get lost

        ...They need a truck stop to find out much they weigh

        ...They can't even jump to a conclusion

        ...I slap the thigh and ride the wave in

        ...When they get on an elevator it HAS to go down

        ...They put mayonnaise on aspirin

        ...It takes a half day of travel to get on their good sides

        ...Their soup bowls come with lifeguards

        ...When I bust my nut for a spray down - it goes into orbit

        ...After God said "Let There Be Light!" he had to push them over to make it happen.

        ...They set off car alarms when they jog (Who am I kidding - they never jog)

        ...They masturbate to the Food Channel

        ...They step on rainbows and make skittles

        ...They wear neck deodorant

        ...When I get off of them my ears pop

        ...They can hear bacon cooking in Canada

        ...Their farts get storm names

        ...They don't skinny dip - they chunky dunk

        ...Their belly buttons don't have lint - they have sweaters

        ...Their shadows weigh 40 lbs

        ...When they fall in love - it breaks

        And last but not least....

        Blind dudes point at them and say "Damn those bitches are fat".

        [–]-RobotDeathSquad- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        lol

        [–]Jedesikus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        Chunky dunks, nice.

        [–]enticingasthatmaybe 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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        They can't even float in space

        schrute.jpg

        --Technically nothing can float in near earth space unless it has orbital speeds.

        [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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        Well those bitches need more orbital velocity than what can presently be produced with contemporary gas expansion sourced vector thrust methodologies.

        Better?

        [–]enticingasthatmaybe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        tl;dr: fat bitches fall out of space

        [–]thekidfromthegutter 7 points8 points  (2 children)

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        I love Bacon and I find your comparison between fat chicks aka earth whales and pigs revolting. Pigs give us a freaking bacon bro!

        [–]culofiesta 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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        Pot bellied pigs make good pets too. Landwhales do not.

        [–]xAorta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        Pigs are our food bros. They deserve nothing but our absolute respect for their sacrifice to give us delicious bacon.

        [–]moalfred 2 points3 points  (3 children)

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        I hate when they call themselves "thick". An obese girl on my facebook constantly reminds people the difference between "fat" and "thick". She preaches about how "twigs" don't get guys, only thick girls do. She somehow thinks her body isn't killing her.

        Total cunt too. Sigh

        [–]culofiesta 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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        Trust me, she hates herself inside.

        [–]enticingasthatmaybe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        Yeah, fat women know precisely how fat they are. A billion gazes set upon her by a billion omega sub human worms don't inflate her ego as much as people like to believe.

        [–]moalfred 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        Not to be an asshole, but I truly hope you're correct.

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        Word. The delusions of some is infuriating. I was in Magaluf with my buddies in "10. To put it mildly the boy/girl ratios were horrible, and as a result, every girl there got an insanely inflated ego. Had one chick, can't have been more than 5, less if you include the personality trying to sponge off me and my buddy while we were sitting at a bar talking. I wouldn't have touched her even if she paid me. I called her out when she started to try taking a sip from my drink and I wouldn't let her. Her reaction was to grab a glass standing nearby with ice and remains of a drink and threw it in my face.

        [–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (22 children)

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        Talked to girl on OKC whose profile pic was a 5/10 but later sent me a picture that's 0-1/10. She lives an hour and a half away from me, is a kissless virgin, and she got upset when I couldn't maintain conversation topics over a three week time span.

        She practically lied to me about her appearance (sending me a 2 year old pic when she looked her best), lives way too fucking far away, no sexual experience, and wants me to entertain her? Hell no.

        [–]goatfishsandwich[S] 34 points35 points  (17 children)

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        Yeah, online dating is where I first noticed this. Some of these girls are just the scum of the earth, but expect to be treated like a queen. And even the 0/10 girls can just sit back and let the messages flood in because there will always be a desperate guy willing to bang her

        [–]slcjosh 32 points33 points  (9 children)

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        dunno about you guys, but the majority of the girls on those sites i see in my area are fat, single moms, or even worse...both.

        [–]OneWonderfulFish 34 points35 points  (2 children)

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        Fat, single moms who now want to "take it slow" and are waiting for a "gentleman". :rolleyes:

        [–]CallMeMrBadGuy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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        You bout to make me reactivate my old OKC just so I can get some schadenfreude on.

        [–]slcjosh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        "Where's my knight in shining armor"

        [–]SexWaffles 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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        I live in Lake County, IL and sweet Jeebus is this ever the truth. POF has some decent-looking potentials for plates, but most of them never answer cause they have to wade a flood of wannabes while waiting for whatever imaginary 6'4"+ Clooney-looking millionaire is going to stumble across their profile.

        [–]Meglomaniac 7 points8 points  (1 child)

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        Or women who are decent looking who are CLEARLY on the rebound from a pump and dump and are "looking for real men"

        [–]slcjosh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        Lol pretty sure that is 75% of the decent looking girls

        [–]carrotplanter -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

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        Your OKC matches are based on your own attractiveness level, FYI

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        Good thing I filled that in as 100+, then.

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        Yea, I'm not a bad looking guy, but the looks department, all my Okc matches are hogs. POF has way cuter chicks.

        [–]CouldntFindGudName 6 points7 points  (6 children)

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        i feel like some of these girls are actually okc mods. i used to message few girls and didn't get much response (this was pre rp days) i got bored and i didn't go there at all. A few days later a girl messages me. lol. I talk for a couple days back and forth and she just stops replying.

        And this happenes every time you decrease your frequency of going there. I may be wrong but it seems possible.

        [–]goatfishsandwich[S] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

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        Who knows, anything's possible. I think every guy on a dating website should come together and agree to just stop messaging girls altogether. Then they'd have no choice but to start messaging us and we'll turn the tables around.

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        ha ha. Yes that might work. I wonder how they would justify it to themselves. The hamstering would be delightful.

        [–]The_Determinator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        get every guy to agree

        Bolder men have died for such. Technically, I'm participating though because I haven't logged onto okc in months now. Not too many valuables within driving distance.

        [–]user_none 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        I already do that and have a mailbox full of messages. Granted, quite a few of the messages are from ones I don't even care to rate, but a few good ones have come through.

        I make it a rule to not send many messages and have done so.

        [–]CaptainBlau 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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        I don't use the site but isn't the idea to get the number asap and set something up? If you drag out the conversation via text it'll fizzle soon enough.

        [–]CouldntFindGudName 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        It would depend, but yes you are right about that.

        I have heard this same thing happening to lot of guys. You stop using OKC and surprisingly your profile starts getting message and interest rises. The moment you login and start replying, everything is gone. knowing that OKC has previously used shady tactics I won't be surprised they use their people to keep traffic on.

        The website is biased towards women. If they break a rule nothing will happen but if you so much as hint about what you really want you will get the brigade reporting you and without giving any reason you are banned, they will display username or password incorrect instead of 'you are banned'.

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        Yeah. Ive gotten similar. Just a "hey" from a 2/10 who lives way too far away. After 3 one word responses I just said "boring" and was done with it.

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        I don't do online dating anymore since I have a steady girlfriend but if a girl did initiate a message 9 times out of 10 it was "hey". That's all they do because they know that's all they really need to do.

        [–]philosarapter 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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        Why would you keep talking to her then? I'm confused. I don't even respond to 5/10s but perhaps I'm shallow

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        I was a little generous with my tolerance. My ex-wife was a 3-4/10 so this girl would've been an upgrade, but definitely not with her latest pic.

        [–]pwrfull 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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        The problem is men, and males who are low quality, are by their low quality thirst, creating low quality ripple effects in the environment.

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          [–]dvrzero 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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          Er, trp tells dudes to better their body and mind to stop being so damn enthralled with vagina.

          That's not artificial. With orbiters a 7 acting 10 has her pick, according to her. When a real man ™ shows up and treats her like a 7, or even a 5 (calls her on her artificial value) - she is more attracted to him.

          Women wear pushup bras and are otherwise fake (as above) to find the person they are attracted to. It just so happens that negs and indifference to her, as well as "in shape" and well kempt increase that attraction.

          It's basically our way of broadcasting that we're wanting action... Having your shit together enough to not drop everything cuz she's wearing a v neck.

          [–]Route66_LANparty 18 points19 points  (1 child)

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          Doesn't sound like a good friend to be bringing a thieving, drug user to your place. If he knew any of this ahead of time, he shouldn't be bringing such trash to where his friends live. I always find that disrespectful.

          [–]goatfishsandwich[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

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          My friend is a she. But I don't even think she knew. She brought her friend, who in turn brought her friend, who was this chick. So it was a friend of a friend of a friend type deal. But yeah I agree with you it is disrespectful.

          [–]slcjosh 23 points24 points  (2 children)

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          as long as there are desperate, low caliber men out there worshipping uggo bitches, there will be this problem. You can see it every day. Look at ok cupid or POF. You see these girls who are kind of cute, have a cute face, but are not in great shape or just not that attractive, say things like "i get so many messages is hard to respond to all of them" blah blah blah. Its because every beta and his even more beta brother are out there telling every women how pretty he thinks she is. Trying to be nice to get the same thing all guys want, poon.

          Its never going to go away sadly. I actually prefer it that way. One guy comes and tells a girl how he thinks shes sooooo gawjuss and hawwwwt, she gets a little ego boost, that guy jacks off into a towel. Ill see that same girl, walk up to her, and make fun of her purse or shoes or something, and she is immediately obsessed with attaining my approval.

          [–]1iluminatiNYC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          I regret that I have one upvote to give. And you're so right about OKCupid and POF gassing women the FUCK up. When all you have to do is have all your body parts in decent working order to have 50 guys on your clitoris, it's kind of hard not to be gassed.

          [–]ClosetRedPiller 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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          I would have told her to get out of my house. Sounds like the kind of person who'll steal from you when you're not looking.

          [–]goatfishsandwich[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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          I have a new apartment and it's basically empty so there's nothing in there to steal yet. But if I had valuables I'd keep em tucked away.

          [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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          Wow - what a piece of gutter trash.

          There are times where the train-wreck drama outweighs the POA coefficient.

          This is one of those times, I'd wager.

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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          It's disgusting...I am always hearing women howl were have all the good men gone? Good men are MGTOW because of the climate. The fact is women are only good when they marry young and start a family...other wise they get distracted by things like college or having fun and you know what women can't handle stuff like that!

          [–]philosarapter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          I wouldn't spend so much of your energy worrying about it. She'll get her karma. Yeah, she may get free drinks, and inflated ego. But that won't mean squat in a few years when her looks dry up and she has absolutely no personality to back it up. She'll end up with some loser who mistreat her and probably be poor and pregnant before age 23.

          That's when cold harsh reality will hit her and she'll find out that her vagina can't fix all the problems in her life.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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          Except that low quality women will only attract low quality men (AKA. The Desperate/Thirsty guys).

          When you ignore the dumb bitch she instantly realizes that she's not a 10. Hell she's probably not even a 5. She'll try to get with you but just shut her down and tell her youre not interested in low quality single mothers and explain that you arent Captain Save-a-Ho.

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            She's like a trashy kind of attractive. Tattoos, piercings, c-section scar. Someone I wouldn't kiss on the mouth and use at least 3 layers of condoms.

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              [–]goatfishsandwich[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              My friend is a she (and my ex actually, but I'm still cool with her). She brought her friend, (who she's trying to hook up with cause she's bi now) and that girl brought her friend, who was the chick I was talking about. Yeah it's kind of a funny situation but I didn't feel like mentioning it cause it's not really relevant to the story lol

              [–]Notinjuschillin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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              She's got it twisted. These guys are buying her drinks in hopes of getting laid. She believes it's because she's hot.

              [–]SomersetRaglan 2 points3 points  (6 children)

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              So......womens worth is primarily based on looks? But not really?

              i dont get it. isnt the whole point of the wall being that women can never make up their lost value in youth with qualities in other categories?

              i get that theres things other than looks that make a girl a good potential ltr, but isnt the party line here that men want sex, women want power?

              am i just being incredibly shallow here?

              [–]nninja -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

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              You think the men here aren't human or something?

              [–]SomersetRaglan -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

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              im just confused. if this chick was ugly but had her life in order wouldnt we just call her a careerist entitled bitch?

              now this chick is slutting around but is pretty, nope still a problem.

              i get that she's not a ten because of it, but even girls who seem nice are still potential sluts, right? so whats the difference?

              [–]nninja 3 points4 points  (3 children)

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              How does being ugly make you a careerist entitled bitch?? There's not much she can do if she's ugly, besides getting in shape, that doesn't make her a bitch, she can still be a good person and a good gf/wife. And being pretty doesn't make you a valuable person either. You're kind of just getting the superficial bit with some anger. You don't need to be angry at this chick for being a ho, just know she's a ho and don't be a fool. Don't fuckin marry a ho because she's a 10. You're better of being with a 7 that you're attracted to and who's good to you and is a good person. Where are you coming from? Are you a dude? Why are you so confused?

              [–]SomersetRaglan -1 points0 points  (2 children)

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              Don't fuckin marry a ho because she's a 10.

              ok so we agree that the chick is a ten, because op doesnt.

              see i think a chick can be a ten, and a slut, and therefore worthless all at the same time.

              op is suggesting that the chick isnt a ten, even if she were hot as hell, solely on the basis of her being a ho (among other unsavory traits)

              are you seeing a discrepency here? cuz i am.

              [–]nninja 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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              I don't know if that woman is a 10 lol that was just general advice. I doubt she's a 10 considering she's a junkie who just got out of jail. And yes, a 10 on looks can be worthless if she's going to bring you down or waste your time etc. it's not about how other people perceive your girl, just think of yourself, does she add value to your life? Does she turn you on? Is she good to you? Is she loyal to you? etc. OP is wasting his time with a ho anyway don't worry about it. Don't wast time trying to rationalize or explain shit to a loser, male or female. You have better things to do like making money, taking care of family, improving yourself etc.

              [–]SomersetRaglan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              why thank you sir. all the best to you too

              [–]Last_of_the_Knights 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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              Anyone else think it's hilarious? I laugh my ass off! This one girl on POF listed her "demands" for a mate, which basically described The Ubermensch to end all Ubermensches. She was a hard 6 at best looks-wise, with little to nothing cool about her personality.

              There needs to be some kind of moderator on those sites that looks at a person's "demands," compares it with what they offer, and responds with "Yeah you're reasonable, you get to play," or "....Holy shit, get your head out of your ass - you get to look in this category."

              [–]TimCurrysLoveChild 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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              I see this phenomenon on Instagram all the time and it's ridiculous really.

              [–]youreunbelieveable 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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              I feel so bad for her child.

              [–]AVeryMadFish 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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              You're dead on right, man. Hell, my last serious girlfriend was like that. She was a solid 5, maybe a 6 for her pretty face and big tatas, and had two kids whose father was not around. Shitty job, lived with her parents, super bi-polar, and she constantly acted like she was too good for me. Of course there were other guys hitting on her at the time so she perceived her own worth as far greater than it truly was.

              [–]moalfred 2 points3 points  (3 children)

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              My good friend is dating a troll. I mean this girl is just fucking disgusting. They're constantly making out and groping each other in public. His girlfriend's friend is very clearly into him. This girl is easily a 9. He doesn't even pay attention to her. It baffles me. A pretty good looking guy (according to some of my female friends) dating a solid 3.5-4. It's gross. To top this all off, she's a total cunt.

              I pushed my bud jokingly the other day, and he stumbled forward into a plastic cup. The water almost splashed onto the hot girl. My pal's girlfriend FLIPPED the fuck out on me. She called me "the most obnoxious person she'd ever met". Now I'm not going to tell her how ugly and stupid she is, because I respect my friend and I don't want this to damage our friendship. But she was just completely raging. I told her she needed to relax, and that she needed not to let such small things get to her so deeply. I started laughing as I walked away and heard her curse about me to my friend.

              He defended me, but I couldn't grasp why he would stick with this ugly tramp (she dresses slutty as well, even though absolutely nobody besides an insanely insecure guy, or a guy who is mentally challenged would look twice at her).

              If you're going to be a bitch, make sure you're hot. If you're going to be stupid, make sure you're hot. If you're going to be ugly, make sure you're nice. If you're stupid and ugly, make sure you're nice. If you're fat, stupid and ugly, you better be a good fucking person. So why the fuck would you be a bitch when you're stupid, fat and ugly?

              The only explanation is that she thinks pretty highly of herself. I can't talk my bud out of dating her because he's head over heels for this serpent of a girl.

              Sorry for the rant, but I fucking hate cocky cunts who treat people like shit because they think they're hot. Look in the mirror for Christs sake.

              TL;DR: I agree with OP

              [–]goatfishsandwich[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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              Dude just take the 9

              [–]moalfred 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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              She's a work in progress. She's got a long distance relationship with a jock type guy. It sounds like it isn't very stable, so I'll see what happens.

              [–]goatfishsandwich[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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              Yeah sooner or later they'll break up. Long distance relationships never work.

              [–]6TLaRm4g 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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              Desperate/thirsty guys are artificially raising the value of these low quality women.

              It is natural, not artificial. And why would she not act like a 10? She can get any of those guys who hit on her. The laws of supply/demand.

              [–]tattyfack 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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              Somebody needs to purify that thirsty bitch in the waters of lake Minnetonka.

              [–]buster2209 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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              They all eventually plough into The Wall™ and then start to pine 'where have all the good guys gone?'

              Until then, let them enjoy their twenties...

              [–]Aaron565 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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              This effects all girls, even the hot ones. If a truly hot girl sees a less attractive one getting attention and praise her internal value with shoot through the roof. "She isn't even hot and all those guys love her? I must be a goddess."

              It comes to the point where many hot girls you meet are:

              1. Entitled
              2. Think that their value is so high that they will literally straight up ignore people trying to talk to them.
              3. Feminist so that you cant call them out on their bullshit.

              In fact a girl who I considered possible LTR material was recently subject to this. I didn't pursue her at first because I wanted to give a beta friend of mine a chance. While he way trying to swallow the red pill an alpha friend of mine swooped in and grabbed her right out of his arms (like always). He was left in depression and I was left empty handed.

              Anyway right after this another guy asks her out to prom and she says no; so now she has 3 different guys chasing her. What used to be a sweet, caring, and fun girl became empowered with an inflated ego.

              My mistake made me pay dearly. I really liked the girl and the whole situation is a shame. To what point is doing the right thing more important than the smart thing?

              [–]nerdyfitnessguy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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              Go to /r/amisexy or /r/rateme and you can see these bitches getting their egos inflated by desperate, validation-giving chumps. It's a microcosm of real life. Pathetic.

              [–]CallMeMrBadGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              Dont know about /r/amisexy or /r/rateme though I had enough attention seeking bitches on my Facebook/Snapchats to know that many of these broads have it already confirmed that if you give criticism you're comment will be the one they focus on, because it's dissenting sting. Actually, this is true even for girls who know they are pretty posting in /r/amiugly. I used to love to be bluntly honest in there until I was banned by some bitchass mod.

              [–]TheeRyanGrey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              On one hand, this is the answer to the reason why we can't stand betas/manginas/pussy ass dudes: they artificially boost the egos of women, thus forcing us to break them in half.

              On the other hand, i'm tired of guys getting mad when women they should just want to fuck aren't dateable. Some women just aren't meant for dating but this makes them even better for plowing.

              [–]1iluminatiNYC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              The thirst #isreal. Still, she isn't getting the fact that no one wants to bring her home to mama. Let her live for a while. Once she hits the wall, it's going to get ugly, and her looks are going to be the least of her issues. I just hope her 14 month old daughter is well cared for. Kids don't deserve to be raised in poor circumstances, no matter how screwed up their parents are.

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              Meh, if you want to bone a dumb self-absorbed slut like that just neg the shit out of her and don't give her any validation. She will be begging for your cock in no time.

              [–]through_a_ways 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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              It's a pass the buck situation.

              The problem: bitchy, overconfident women.

              Who's to blame? Some people say women.

              TRP says that desperate guys overinflate the worth of these women, so that these men are to blame.

              Think a bit deeper, why are those men desperate? It's because alphas are willing to sleep with less than 8/10s, and provide moderately attractive girls with sexual validation, enabling them to forgo less desirable men as an option.

              Even deeper now, why are alpha men willing to sleep with those women? Because those women make it easy for them.

              Why do moderately attractive girls (5s and 6s) make it easy for alphas to sleep with them? Preselection, social pressure, and all the normal feminine mechanisms of attraction.

              And now you're right back where you started. Ultimately, the feminine predilection for certain qualities enables a behavioral chain which makes them uppity.

              [–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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              Bingo. The result is that 6's and below of men so to speak (Betas) have an incredibly hard time getting anything halfway decent. Alpha fux.

              [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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              At times like this, I consider separating the genders like they have in Saudi Arabia.

              [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              That's why negs work. I don't mind if she thinks she is awesome, knock her down a few pegs and fuck her brains out. Unless of course its a chick like that. I go full beta to drive them away, then they can't figure out why I am not following them around like a puppy handing them money.

              [–]Drunk_Conquistador 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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              Part of the problem is that you care enough to write up this post. Just avoid these kinds of people. This shouldn't even be a thread.

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              Lol, I know what it's like.. My friends always hang with chicks like this and I never give them attention. They usually hate me for it. Sometimes they'll say to me

              AW: "How come you never talk to me?!"

              ME:"Well you're not my type.."

              AW: "Who said I was into you?!"

              ME: "Uhh, no one?"

              AW: "You said you're not my type"

              ME: "Yeah"

              AW: "Well so we can be friends"

              ME: "You're not my type for a friend."

              [–]rule_of_law 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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              Ok guys, here's what's going on. A lot of women are employing a tactic that men have themselves been told (by both men and women) to employ: the "fake it till you make it" tactic. Unfortunately for them, this tactic is one that only really helps men.

              They should realize by now that their looks determine their fuckability, not their confidence (as it does in men). Looks can't be faked (any more than they already are hopefully) anyways, while confidence can be.

              If they tried to apply this advice across genders, they would see that any faking their personality needs to make would be made in the opposite direction; the one of agreeableness, humbleness, and more feminine. Instead, their solipsistic unaware self centered brains make them think that since they would like guys to be more confident, that it must, or worse should, work the other way around.

              Of course, this is a case where not all women actually are like that, since there are plenty of women who know that being feminine is where the honey's at, and men generally treat them better even when holding beauty constant.

              [–]TheLolomancer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              Definitely a point made in that last bit. I am perfectly willing to lower my standards of physical beauty for an agreeable, entertaining submissive. Absurd confidence, more often than not, just makes me want to throw something heavy at her. It's plain simple irritating.

              [–]ryancentolos1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              You said that you started talking to her because she was attractive, is not that enough validation?

              [–]subgamer90 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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              There's so much truth to this. Have you read the article on return of kings about how thirsty guys kill everyone's game?

              On the other hand, it can be good for those of us who are awake, since we're the only ones not being too needy

              [–]goatfishsandwich[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              Don't think I've read that one specifically but I've read a lot of similar articles. They really do ruin it for everyone else.

              [–]ManicMuffin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              Well I wouldn't say artificially raisin the value. You said she's attractive and so is perfect for a simple fuck and chuck which according to her comments is what most of the guys are looking for in her

              [–]Xein 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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              I made a post about this elsewhere, but it's society's fault too.

              People can disagree, but in my experience there just aren't as many girls in the 8+ range as there should be. There are numerous girls who would be very attractive if they simply lost weight/got fit bodies. Shit, imagine a world where every girl devoted some portion of her day to doing cardio or squats or some shit. There'd be ass for days.

              But that's not how it is.. there're women in their teens/early 20's who have already ruined their bodies. It only gets worse as time goes on.

              Yeah, a lot of dudes are thirsty and starving and there isn't enough to go around. Standards inevitably lower. The tragedy of it is that the girls who actually keep themselves at optimal attractiveness have more power than ever because of the supply/demand dynamics of it all. Then, less attractive women are suddenly seen in a more favorable light because they look better to many women by comparison, leading these chicks to think nothing is wrong with them.

              Talk to your father or grandfather about this.. Mine are literally SHOCKED at how many young women are fat/obese and don't even seem to care.

              [–]goatfishsandwich[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              I think this is mostly an American phenomenon. I visited 4 countries last year, 3 of them in Europe, and barely saw any fat chicks. Eastern Europe is the absolute best. An average looking girl in Russia is like a 8-9 in America.

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              the problem is that those guys have huge budgets and compete with each other whos more beta.

              rather than spending moeny on themselves( and boy do most guys need to...) they end up buying 20 girls drinks for nothing.

              instead the signal should be far more agressive and exlusive, a girl should be hot just to find a guy not to be embarrassed to take her to some cool exclusive male space.... but we can only wish for that.

              [–]Nemester 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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              The star that burns brightest also burns fastest. With all that drug use she will hit the wall maybe 5 years earlier than normal. They will destroy her looks.

              [–]goatfishsandwich[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              Yeah even at 20 she's already starting to look a little beat up.

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                [–]goatfishsandwich[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                Yup, just look at any fat girl on a dating website. I've even met a few IRL.

                [–]LightVader -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

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                Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. Some guys go crazy for fat chicks. Some girl might be his 10, but a shrek to you.

                You honestly cannot judge a man's taste in women no matter how horrid it is. If they find her attractive, that's their business.

                [–]Aldovar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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                Just because you find her attractive, doesn't mean you should put her on a pedestal.

                You can't judge his taste, but you can sure as hell judge his actions.

                [–]RPGoon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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                I think that's a load of shit. Betas hamster that they like fat bitches because they have no hope in attracting a healthy proportioned bitch.

                [–]LightVader 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                Assuming I like fat girls. I detest fat people just as much. I also know about attraction. Some guys just have different taste than the status quo. Who fuckin knew /s

                [–]watersign -3 points-2 points  (5 children)

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                shes probably sucking cock for drugs / money too. girls like this have no respect for themselves. not one bit surprised she has a kid already..this is why i support eugenics and population control. girls like this should have their reproductive organs removed

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                  [–]watersign 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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                  Na man. stupid people breed stupid people. Want to see for yourself? Find 10 people who are engineers or scientists and ask them what their parents do/did. i'd say 80% of the time there is atleast one parent that has a scientific/numerate background. The reason the poor are poor is because for the most part, are completely stupid and borderline retarded.

                  [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  I don't think most women should be allowed to reproduce (freely).

                  this lowers the cost of human life for the powers that may be.

                  [–]netwalker11 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

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                  ... child protective services and raised at a public institution ...

                  Hitler Obama Youth Brigade

                  [–]godwin_finder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  It took this thread 04 hours, 50 minutes, 54 seconds and 87 comments to make a reference to the nazis, for more information look up Godwin's Law.


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                  [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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                  It sucks when 6's think that they're 9s. There must be so much thirst in America for these bitches to be thinking that. I can't even imagine how desperate some of these sad motherfuckers must be.

                  [–]jeb500jp -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

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                  Ya know what I do when a women doesn't meet my standards??

                  I lower my standards.