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[–]heist_of_saint_graft 123 points124 points  (21 children)

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Okay, I'm officially starting a log file of askreddits that confirm in plain language the efficacy of certain TRP principles. If this woman's post was a commercial for Dread Game, every man would buy it.

[–][deleted] 78 points79 points  (9 children)

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The funny part is, she does not even sound particularly unhappy by it all, just sometimes feeling resentful. That could be entirely chalked up to a feminist society that shames women who accept submissive roles.

[–]Offensive_Brute 65 points66 points  (1 child)

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I'm sure while he wasnt fucking her for 8 weeks he was resentful. its her turn now.

[–]boydeer 18 points19 points  (0 children)

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let alone the fact that she was resentful that whole fucking time. now she's resentful occasionally. he did her a favor.

[–]Chelsor 40 points41 points  (5 children)

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Reading through it, it sounded like she was actually coming to terms with her new situation and... gasp... it would appear she likes it.

It's almost like there's something inside of her driving her to do things she's been told she shouldn't enjoy - except she does enjoy it.

She's with a hot guy who's getting hotter and gets attention from women everywhere. She's draining the dude's nuts before he leaves the house - she's living the dream of women if she'd just get passed the whole, "other women will judge me." Ironic, considering the female mantra claims to be, "fuck what others think!"

It always amused me that women will disregard the input from those who have what they desire (men with dick) and trade it for validation from those who can literally offer them nothing in life. Nothing. But the best part it hits these women like a freight train....

Then all of a sudden they can't get enough dick. "Try not to suck any dick on your way through the living room!" Except she's going to. And he's going to relish it.

Bravo.

[–]ggqq 15 points16 points  (4 children)

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The post is saying that she doesn't 'like' it - but I feel like what she actually doesn't like is that what she thought was HER man is getting attention from other girls. She's losing power in their relationship - a power that feminism has told her she's entitled to have. But what she really craves is a man with power - and so her man gave it to her straight: He's sorry you feel bad, but he's not the one to blame here. She needs to stop trying to leverage sex as a damn powerplay and accept the relationship for what it is - him first, her second. And that's how it always should be.

[–]MegMartinson 17 points18 points  (3 children)

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She's losing power in their relationship ...

That, indeed, is the issue, the only issue. -- She'd be surprised at how much attention she'd get from her husband if she'd just submit to him as her HoH and learn to enjoy it.

Feminism poisons everything.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAerobus 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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HoH?

[–]MegMartinson 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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HoH?

Head of Household. HoH is a term in Taken in Hand (TiH) and related lifestyles related to male dominated relationships.

see also: http://www.takeninhand.com/

[–]ss4james_ 16 points17 points  (1 child)

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You'd easily get to triple digits in no time. Especially if you went through archived threads.

I feel like there's a new one here almost every day.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 14 points15 points  (0 children)

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There's a sucker born every minute.

[–]16 Endorsed ContributorTRPsubmitter 17 points18 points  (1 child)

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Definitely do it. Create an encyclopedia.

I am a fan of these redpill example xposts. Whenever I see one: http://imgur.com/27hm433

[–]PM_ME_BOOTYSHOTS 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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An organized collection of examples confirming RP principles collected from the annals of /relationships or /askwomen?

That would be a hilarious thing to have handy...

[–]Endorsed ContributorAerobus 9 points10 points  (6 children)

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Way ahead of you. Already have 400+ bookmarks relating to marriage/relationships, 200 of which are red pill related. I'm talking articles, reddit anecdotes, scientific studies.

[–]heist_of_saint_graft 8 points9 points  (5 children)

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Amazing. We could use that as a great starting point to create a massive list. Perhaps we can have a community effort. Create a kind of "mountain of evidence" Wiki for TRP. Organize by main TRP topics such as Briffault's Law, Hypergamy, Dread Game, etc. PM me if you feel like I might be able to help you organize.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAerobus 5 points6 points  (4 children)

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Ok. Let's work on this over the weekend. Just to give you an idea, I have posts sorted on the following topics: infidelity, insecurity, "bad wives" (e.g. denying sex), scientific studies/articles/anecdotes confirming red pill beliefs, and some of the best redpill theory posts.

[–]Pornography_saves_li 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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I'd be interested in those links too. Thinking about creating a syllabus for noobs.

[–]Mintaka7 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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As a TRP noob, that would be wonderful.

[–]Pornography_saves_li 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Try starting here (my ScribD page), it has all the issues of a webzine I did that predated the Manosphere, and details the evolution of what became known as Red Pill..

http://www.scribd.com/dan_moore_9/documents

EDIT: Also recommend reading the Misandry Bubble article in the sidebar. The Futurist is a longtime 'manospherean', and his work is proving prophetic.

EDIT again: Also, read Rollo Tomassi at the Rational Male.

Dammit, I gotta get that syllabus going....

[–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Please do share when you've come up with something.

[–]masturbateawy 105 points106 points  (20 children)

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You know I really want to know what the hell is Reddit's problem with admitting sexual satisfaction is important to a relationship. Why is that a bad thing. I grew up hearing two things from older women "Leave his balls empty and his stomach full" and "What you're not doing someone else will", is this a hard concept? Is it really a leap to believe that if you are in a monogamous relationship that the person has some duties so to speak? I never knew this was such a taboo subject until reddit, maybe they're excusing their own lack of ability to satisfy their partners in the long term but they what they are advising will lead to difficulty in a relationship.

Edit: Let me clarify this before I'm asked; barring medical issues, large distances or other previously discussed reasons for breaks in sexual contact I feel both partners have an obligation. If you don't agree, go spend a few minutes reading through /r/deadbedrooms and tell me how solid a relationship without sexual satisfaction is.

[–][deleted] 68 points69 points  (8 children)

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Because male sexuality is viewn as inherently malevolent while female sexuality is benevolent.
Pleasing a woman is good on an extremely simplified level, to the extend that a man can not be abused by a woman, while pleasing a man is always coupled with abuse and repression. Thats's why women "put out", letting the evil thing be done to them.

[–]FinnianWhitefir 24 points25 points  (3 children)

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I'd love to see a TRP rules for marriage and a TBP rules. I imagine TRP would be "The man will always be bringing in a salary", "Sex will be had once a day", "Hot cooked meal every night". TBP would be what? "Everyone try to be nice, you can't expect anything from each other, never expect your wife to do anything she doesn't want to". Next we'd just need to total up how many posts in Relationships or DeadBedrooms fall into which one.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

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I think you don't even need TRP or TBP concepts for that, just a reasonable understanding of human nature.
For a good LTR more is necessary than just love and affection, it's like a good contract. You give and get in good proportion. If one part gives more than it gets the relationship is in jeopardy. Even the /relationships usually understands that.
So if a woman in a good and balanced relationship doesn't get sex she has every right to be angered about it and demand it. But so has every man. And that's what most people don't get.

[–]Pornography_saves_li 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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just a reasonable understanding of human nature.

Which is, of course, the definition of Red Pill.

[–]Sharra_Blackfire 7 points8 points  (3 children)

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"viewn"

[–]mccdizzie 9 points10 points  (0 children)

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I seen't it

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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Shit. You got me.

[–]Sharra_Blackfire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Hehe <3

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (8 children)

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You know I really want to know what the hell is Reddit's problem with admitting sexual satisfaction is important to a relationship.

It's not even that. Sex is not necessarily very important for everybody. There are some men preferring a well managed household, dinner on the table, love and companionship. Just like being grandpa / grandma. Like families in old movies. Not dying alone. People have differing libidos. No, that is not the problem, there is a much bigger problem:

Sexless marriages end in divorce even when you re OK with it.

So if a man does not find a way to Game her back to the bed, he is going to lose that well managed household, the dinner on the table, the love and companionship too, so the not dying alone is becoming a problem again.

BTW for me it was one of the bitterest pills to swallow. I could happily live without sex. I could not maintain a lifelong marriage, growing old toegether, becoming old movie grandpas - grandmas which is my wish without it. It is just not possible.

[–]Kwizkey 3 points4 points  (4 children)

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Interesting. People just seem to feel love can exist without sex, when it is a biological necessity. It's like in school the first thing people wonder about a new couple or a boy and a girl coming together is "Are they fucking?"

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

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I was thinking more like 35+, not school age. I guess it depends per person. At some level I think that some hormonal switch, evolved when life was much shorter says "Enough fucking, now focus on raising the kids you already have." Of course it is not the same for everyone, it just happens for a few folks.

[–]Laughing_Jelly_Bean 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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It is the same for everyone, just not to the same degree.

Nobody will have the same sex drive at 70 that they did at 22. Nobody.

[–]batman50 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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Besides everything people already said I think that most of people who use reddit are not very good in relationships, something that become obvious once you see the kind of advice people give.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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The average age of redditors appears to be below the age of 21.

That, I think, has more to do with it than anything else. Plus, the obvious predominance of cluster B and autistic-spectrum disorders in the people who frequent this site.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 155 points156 points  (67 children)

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Dread game is the only game for a guy who has nothing left to lose.

if the wife is withholding sex then you really don't have anything to lose by going outside the marriage to get your needs fulfilled because if you don't you'll just end up getting a divorce down the line anyway and losing half your shit + alimony and/or child support.

PS: LOL @ the first comment 'marriage counselling'. If that solved anything divorce rate wouldn't be nearly 50%.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 47 points48 points  (8 children)

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Once she's landed her man, a woman tends to become hyper-vigilant and possessive. Her role in helping him become a WINNER conflicts with her fear of losing him to another woman... If she helps him dramatically improve, other girls will want him more and her risk of loss rises. Driven by competition anxiety, she'll begin to sabotage his growth. She'll turn him into a fat, contented LOSER on a short leash.

And she further controls him by withholding sex.

The intuitive strategy for most men, because they want sex, is to give her everything she wants and use a sympathetic approach to allay her anxieties and fears. They'll reassure her and demonstrate their constant devotion, loyalty and support... And before long they find themselves acting like her little BETA bitch in every situation.

Women think that being in control like this is a good thing. But they eventually come to despise the weak man they've created. So they dump him for someone more dominant.

With Dread Game, you intentionally foster insecurity and competition anxiety. It's an Alpha move to provoke and maintain tension instead of always trying to relieve it.

Dread Game doesn't require openly flirting with other women. All that's needed is to focus upon improving your SMV, act more independent and cast doubt upon her SMV. Subtle hints are more effective than obvious digs.

This creates a considerable power shift in the relationship in a man's favour. If overdone, a woman can become neurotically possessive, suspicious and difficult to live with... But much less difficult than a demanding, frigid witch.

[–]Johnny10toes 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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One thing is that it wasn't hard to do some dread. Acting like my old self and dressing nicer to go to places where I'd normally be in a T-shirt made her wet as whale pussy. But one problem I'm having is how do I keep the old me? I'm assuming this is a problem with maintaining frame. I slip back to the guy she made. I know it's not even been 2 months so I guess I need to let myself grow and be aware.

Another problem is talking to women who aren't my wife. She was possessive and I let it go. So I rarely hold conversations with women. I want these women attracted to me. I want her to see them attracted to me. We were at a family reunion once and my cousins wife and I were talking. I was completely oblivious to her attraction for me until my wife pointed it out on the way home. She was literally giggling at everything I said and flipping what little hair she had. I didn't feel like I was flirting. My wife will still bring it up if she sees that N has posted something on Facebook then do this fake giggle that sounds remotely like N. The problem with my cousins wife, my wife's friends who have told her that I'm good looking or some of my sisters friends who basically said that my wife better keep straight because they are next in line is that she knows I wouldn't fuck them anyway. They are unattractive or fat or unattractive fat whores. So I need to be able to have a normal conversation with the server or attendants or people sitting close to us who are attractive. That way the dread would go better and she wouldn't think "yeah right girl he wouldn't touch you if you wanted it."

Unless... Once I hugged a friend in front of her. This girl is 4 foot tall and 4 foot around. The wife was pissed! "Really? Are you fucking serious? Do you have such low self esteem that you think that girl has a remote chance of getting me from you?"

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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"How do I keep the old me?" Great question! Just being aware puts you miles ahead.

I was recently at a party with a bunch of married couples. I looked around and all the wives had their husbands well-trained. It was so eye-opening to realize what domesticated little bitches all of us men had become. And these were well-educated professional guys - with zero awareness of their blatant lack of masculinity.

I maintained a masculine frame and the women began to subtly show submissive, flirtatious behavior to me, right in front of their husbands. It felt powerful being that sexual threat - that wolf amongst sheep...

Lesson: Women crave your masculinity but will strip you of it just to keep other women away... Not that women are to blame when you let yourself go (return to chode-mode) and hand her the reins as soon as you're in that LTR.

[–]vflytrap 0 points1 point  (4 children)

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Holy. Shit . Women are fucking disturbed individuals.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 26 points27 points  (2 children)

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No, women are just women. I've been married 30+ years, and when I recently started reclaiming my masculinity, my wife got nervous. By manning up it meant she had to raise her dormant Girl Game... She did.

What woke me up wasn't the fact I had become such a passive, domesticated Beta - that's an easy life - but I was watching my sons struggle to become men and realized I wasn't much of a role-model for them.

[–]BluepillProfessor 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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Exactly my experience. It is hard to come to this realization while still swallowing TRP and I still struggle with it. What was more important, however, was that my two sons needed an example in this pathetic BP world of pussies.

[–]Abbrevi8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Oh you have no idea. I have three younger sisters, you should see what they do to their friends.

[–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 103 points104 points  (42 children)

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Sleepers don't understand that when a woman withholds sex in an ostensibly committed relationship, she is effectively controlling her partner's sex drive.

She's saying, "I don't want you having sex with anyone else, but I also only want you to have sex with me when I feel like it". That's chastity enforcement, plain and simple.

Dread game is the solution for a man in this situation. Make her believe you can get it elsewhere, and her power vanishes. Doubly so if she believes that sex is the only thing she has to offer. It will inspire terrify her into taking his wants seriously.

[–]closetothesilence 69 points70 points  (26 children)

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Exactly. I found TRP after I posted about six months of forced celibacy in the /r/deadbedrooms subreddit (saddest fucking fucks on the planet). She eventually dumped me and moved in with her "co-worker" who she now shares a bedroom / bed with in a two-bedroom apartment. I manned up after New Years and haven't looked back since. Spinning 3 plates with a 4th showing significant interest. Looking back now I can't believe how duped I was. Denial is a helluva drug...

[–]bama79rolltide 29 points30 points  (2 children)

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I got banned from that subreddit for endorsing cheating and yelling.

[–]scuba182 19 points20 points  (1 child)

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YELLING?

[–]closetothesilence 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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LOUD NOISES!

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (22 children)

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Lol. I'm spinning 5 plates...and the wife is one of them.

[–]SirNemesis 21 points22 points  (5 children)

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Cheating =/= spinning plates.

[–]2emptyform 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Spinning plates is not necessarily cheating, but it can be the method by which you cheat.

[–]MrsStrom 2 points3 points  (3 children)

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Just because he's spinning plates doesn't mean he's cheating. It's entirely possible that she knows. When I'm not available, I'm okay with Mr Strom getting his rocks off elsewhere, as long as he's not dating her. That's why I'm cool with sluts.

[–]GordonShumway1 21 points22 points  (2 children)

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Except that his username is "CANTSTOPCHEATING" lol

[–]nsummy 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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ahahahahaha this made my day. I didn't even notice the username but fucking hilarious

[–]MrsStrom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Oblivious lady is oblivious.

[–]Clauderoughly 3 points4 points  (15 children)

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I started a thread advocating this in TRP not long ago and I was down voted to FUCK by a bunch of white knights.

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1y3jzk/when_you_spin_plates_just_be_aware_that_white/

Hordes of fucking white knights in TRP

[–]LinkenSphere 19 points20 points  (14 children)

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I had to comment on this one. There are many times that I detect some hypocrisy on TRP, but speaking against that hypocrisy might get you banned.

Why the fuck is it okay for the man to "spin plates" (in the context of cheating) if the girlfriend isn't granting him any sex. If you are willing to cheat you might aswell end the relationship and then go fuck another person.

I feel like TRP is okay with the man cheating but the moment a woman cheats it gets accused on hypergamy. Men cheat because women do it, and vice versa. No one is fucking innocent

Now I am not argumenting for the florist guy's actions, but on cheating. I am redpill and I dont believe in politically correct bullshit, but don't forget we are also dealing with human beings.

I don't know how RP advocates good traits in a man, yet is somehow cool with the man cheating for no apparent reason.

I come from a culture where honor and loyalty are everything, so this is my perspective. We have a saying "As you condemn, you are condemned". Translation: What you do to other people, gets done to you.

[–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 14 points15 points  (2 children)

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There are many times that I detect some hypocrisy on TRP, but speaking against that hypocrisy might get you banned.

It won't. Only trolling will get you insta-banned. Everything else is judged based on its merit, so if you provide a good argument, then the worst you'll get is a downvote waterfall.

I feel like TRP is okay with the man cheating but the moment a woman cheats it gets accused on hypergamy. Men cheat because women do it, and vice versa. No one is fucking innocent

This is a good question, and I'll explain to you why.

When a woman fucks outside of her relationship (or even intimates that she might), her male partner is disgusted. He becomes spiteful, angry, and immediately unattracted to her. Her infidelity turns him off.

When a man fucks outside of his relationship (or even intimates that he might), his female partner becomes jealous. She becomes insecure, worrisome, and increasingly attracted to him, and she is motivated to win him back. His infidelity turns her on.

It's the sexes that decide what kind of cheating is and isn't okay. Men aren't okay with it, and women are. Women have said loud and clear with their actions that cheating is okay.

[–]LinkenSphere 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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Is that why women forgive cheating more than men do?

[–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 20 points21 points  (0 children)

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It's why women forgive physical cheating more than men do. Women are less forgiving about emotional cheating.

Men are more forgiving about emotional cheating, and less forgiving about physical cheating.

Different sex, different priority.

[–]Clauderoughly 2 points3 points  (3 children)

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I am redpill and I dont believe in politically correct bullshit, but don't forget we are also dealing with human beings.

Then why are you still assuming men and women are the same ?

Men and women hage different sexual needs, men and women also bond differently.

I have fucked 20 other women since getting married, and I am more attracted to my wife that ever. There is no fucking way you would get the same thing from a woman doing the same.

Loyality and Honor are nice ideas, but they are MASCULINE things that women are completely unable to abide by because women are driven by emotional logic, not rational logic.

Why the fuck is it okay for the man to "spin plates" (in the context of cheating) if the girlfriend isn't granting him any sex. If you are willing to cheat you might aswell end the relationship and then go fuck another person.

Some rare women can offer more than just sex to a relationship. In my example I adore my wife, she is my best friend and partner in everything we do. I don't deal with any of the usual female crap from her and she is rp woman through and through. Sadly though we have grossly mis matched sex drives, so I am free to spin plates to make sure I am an all around happy man.

Plate spinning is about getting all your needs met, and sometimes that takes more than one woman.

[–]LinkenSphere 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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I never assumed men and women are the same. Anyways I like your perspective, you make it clear that your wife allows you to have other sexual partners, but don't forget that almost everybody wants their partner to be exclusive to them sexually and emotionally. Am I sensing that your trying to tell me that your wife is a Unicorn?

[–]RPtooLate 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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Actually, What I pick up from reading TRP is that if a woman's perception of you is high enough then this isn't uncommon. I don't know how common polygamy used to be but it certainly wasn't unheard of. Now we have "women would rather share an alpha, than be exclusive with a beta." Although if you are an aloof alpha then she will likely either hook-up with other alphas or settle with a beta provider on the side.

[–]BluepillProfessor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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Polygyny (men with multiple uck buddies) was the NORM for almost all of human evolution. We only "changed" by rigid laws and customs in the last 2,000 years and only in the Christian world. Answer, we have NOT changed.

[–]abcd_z 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Ending a relationship hurts, it helps your frame of mind immensely to have other sexual options, and most guys don't want their woman to see other men even if they're seeing other women. Given these three constraints, cheating is the best solution.

Personally I advocate telling her you're going to sleep with other women before you do so.

[–]dancingwithcats 19 points20 points  (10 children)

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I keep being reminded by these examples just how lucky I am. I have blanket 'permission' (it's not really permission, it's an understanding) to 'cheat' if we ever go without sex for more than two weeks. That's never happened. The only times I can think of when it's been more than two days have been due to illness on my or her part.

Then again it isn't really luck. I just chose my mate wisely.

[–]Clauderoughly 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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Nice work!

I have the same arrangement with my wife. We have an open relationship so far as I am allowed to fuck other women. She is pretty asexual so she has no interest in other men.

Can't describe how good it feels, coming home with the afterglow of a nice long night with a plate, and your wife snuggling up to you because she is happy to see you.

[–]BarbarianRedScourge 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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Dread game is vital to a healthy relationship. When I go out with a girl I'm dating, I always dance with other women too. This has two benefits. First of all, I enjoy the hell out of it. Secondly, she has no questions about why I'm with her; it's a choice I made. It's a nonverbal assurance that the minute she forgets who she's with, she's gone.

As grim as that may sound to a bluepiller, it creates very happy, pleasant, sex filled relationships.

Remember, gentlemen: gina tingles are best felt in a defensive crouch.

[–]Jalil343 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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She's saying, "I don't want you having sex with anyone else, but I also only want you to have sex with me when I feel like it". That's chastity enforcement, plain and simple.

well put

[–]1kick6 26 points27 points  (2 children)

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PS: LOL @ the first comment 'marriage counselling'. If that solved anything divorce rate wouldn't be nearly 50%.

In every situation I've ever heard of, marriage counseling is nothing more than divorce-cheerleading.

[–]5 Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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If marriage councilors actually fixed marriages, they'd eliminate their own demand.

[–]boredinclass2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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this. Fuck that nonsense.

[–]ss4james_ 41 points42 points  (0 children)

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Marriage counseling, spend a bunch of money to talk with someone who resents you and/or is resented by you. And have a third party there to reiterate everything you say, just in different words. Also the counselor relies on your family dysfunction to get paid.

Cheaper to throw it all away and start at the bottom with a new thirst. I say if you're still younger than 50, you can make it work.

Just exercise and eat right...

Worst case scenario is that your current marriage works out ;)

[–]boydeer 7 points8 points  (1 child)

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PS: LOL @ the first comment 'marriage counselling'. If that solved anything divorce rate wouldn't be nearly 50%.

one of my dad's clients is a female marriage counselor. she told him that most counseling fails because the woman hates men, and she can usually tell within a few minutes if it's going to work out based on that criteria alone.

[–]Clauderoughly 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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lol.

And yet chumps still continue to marry feminists..

[–]abcd_z 219 points220 points  (7 children)

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Top-voted comment:

He did not need to hire a prostitute. He has hands and managed to spend years not having sex in the past.

FUCK. THAT. SHIT.

[–]ProfessorD2 147 points148 points  (5 children)

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Believe me, as someone who was in an 8-year nearly-sexless marriage, there's few thoughts more depressing and sure to ruin a marriage than waking up one day and realizing you've spent the last 8 years fucking your own hand instead of the wife who promised to be there for such needs.

[–]17 Endorsed ContributorArchwinger 141 points142 points  (4 children)

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A-fucking-men. That very experience is soul-crushing.

A man dies a little inside when he propositions his own wife, and she laughs... Then says, "Oh. You were serious?" Like the very notion that she would waste time gratifying another human being, or God forbid, enjoying sex with her husband is worth putting down her cell phone for a few minutes.

Some wives really don't get it. They think a sexless marriage and a complete lack of libido is normal after time, kids, whatever. They are genuinely surprised when they feel a thing for a coworker and suddenly find out that, oh, they loved sex all this time after all. It was their husbands they didn't love.

[–]5 Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 29 points30 points  (1 child)

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Sometimes I wonder why a woman would stay in a multi-year relationship with a man she isn't even attracted to.

Then I remember: she's being provided for.

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    [–]Endorsed ContributorHarleyWalker 18 points19 points  (0 children)

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    He has hands and managed to spend years not having sex in the past

    Lol, why should a man put himself through that again?

    [–][deleted] 86 points87 points  (3 children)

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    Lmao. The whiny cunts of that thread. 'Waaaaaaaahhhhhhhh! I should be able to withhold hold sex as punishment for my husband not doing what I want without any repercussions!!!!!!'

    Grow the fuck up.

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      [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

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      wow what a great analogy

      [–]Ciphermind 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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      Meta dread game

      [–]CaptainDerpknocker 35 points36 points  (8 children)

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      Jeezus, they have such a hard-on over there for therapists and "couples counseling". What would that really accomplish? Reinforcements for the white knight brigade?

      [–]Abbrevi8 45 points46 points  (0 children)

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      "Sharing feelings" and "growing as a couple" and fucken "working through our differences."

      Fuck that noise. Suck his dick and it'll solve 90% on your issues ya silly sheila.

      [–]netgrey 27 points28 points  (3 children)

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      My ex-wife forced me to go to counseling with her, up until our counselor said that marriage is 50/50 and we both had to accept responsibility for the marriage and any problems.

      She literally just wanted to bitch and the counsellor to back her up how terrible I was. Just happened that our counsellor was female, but also old school Filipino. I'm sure most counseling is just the wife bitching and the feminized counselor giving her a you go girl!

      [–]boydeer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      indeed. copypasta myself:

      one of my dad's clients is a female marriage counselor. she told him that most counseling fails because the woman hates men, and she can usually tell within a few minutes if it's going to work out based on that criteria alone.

      [–]notseriouslyserious 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      You should've seen that one post awhile back where the guy went to counseling, got shat on by the wife and the counselor, only to find out the counselor was actually the wife's best friend in highschool.

      [–]abcd_z 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      up until our counselor said that marriage is 50/50 and we both had to accept responsibility for the marriage and any problems.

      As David Deangelo once said, "You want a 50-50 relationship? It means she owns you."

      [–]notseriouslyserious 7 points8 points  (1 child)

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      /r/relationships is filled with people who dont know how relationships work. It's quite humorous.

      I have a theory it's filled with teenagers and old bitter women.

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      I think it's more the latter than the former, but I agree that's a large portion of the userbase.

      I love the comments that are like:

      "My ex used to take me out all the time and we had a great relationship."

      "My ex respected me enough to not push sex when I wasn't in the mood."

      The recurring theme is these people are always talking about their exes... because they've never had a successful relationship. It would be like someone that never made it past middle school basketball giving advice to an NBA player.

      [–]19 Endorsed Contributordrrrrrr 31 points32 points  (3 children)

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      This is really funny. It's like no one in the comments is willing to say the emperor has no clothes.

      [–]Hymen-Ripper 24 points25 points  (2 children)

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      This is why I find TRP so fascinating. We're just saying what is obviously true, and what everybody knows is true but have somehow convinced themselves otherwise.

      [–]noblepaladin 7 points8 points  (1 child)

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      And the thing is we are simply observers. We have very low numbers. We have zero influence on what the rest of society does. Yet we are the ones that are the evil bad guys when we are just pointing out what everybody else is doing. Many people here might not morally or ethically agree with what we see, but what we see is still the truth. It actually happened, whether we like it or not.

      [–]dawg826 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      There's such an absurd degree of cognitive dissonance going on with peoples' opinion of TRP. On the one hand we are virgin neckbeard losers with no possibility of getting out of our meager social positions. We can be laughed at and treated as fringe theorists. On the other hand, we are dangerous, evil, and manipulative men seeking sweeping social reform and trying to brainwash everyone into being unhappy and misogynistic.

      [–]vflytrap 32 points33 points  (3 children)

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      Seriously what is wrong with us females. Is it so hard to love our men and encourage them to be their best self. Sex is not a weapon you dozy cows.. The sooner everyone stops treating it as such, the sooner we can have equal and happy relationships. Jfc

      [–]Sharra_Blackfire 20 points21 points  (2 children)

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      I have sex with my husband even when I'm mad at him for legitimately dropping the ball on his responsibilities in life. What would motivate him to work harder on our relationship, and on being a better person, if we had a dead bedroom?

      Not to mention, I have my own needs. Ain't nobody got time for abstinence.

      [–]vflytrap 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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      Seriously. I think that'd why so many relationships I see are just always in turmoil. These women think that by gaining power over men by withholding sex, they're winning. In reality a man can only handle so much until he just finds someone else who will have sex with them.

      [–]Sharra_Blackfire 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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      Yeah. As a woman, you aren't doing yourself any favors if you use sex as a weapon. For one thing, you're denying a basic human need to the person you claim to love and have committed yourself to. By shutting off the love and comfort of intimacy, you're rejecting them in a critical way that is going to undermine any feelings they have for you and drive them away.

      You're teaching them that what they need doesn't matter, and that YOU don't need it, so even if you start having sex again, they're going to doubt the legitimacy of what you share, since it's something that you so easily turned "off". They need you to need it also.

      It's all just negative conditioning that's going to stack on itself, and every time it happens it gets worse and worse. I have female friends who withhold sex from their husbands, and it sickens me. It's also something where over time, they start doing it for stupider reasons and for longer stretches of time. One friend will do it for "infractions" on the scale of cooking dinner "wrong", (my reaction: omg a man who cooks dinner for his wife??), or for "using the wrong tone in your text message". It's insane.

      Do they seriously think someone will want to stay with someone who's like that? Even if they remain physically present in the relationship, you've lost their heart and their emotions. Why even bother being with someone at that point?

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      OP:

      Even though he's been great since we made up, I can't help but feel like I'm in a fully submissive role in our relationship now. I haven't once turned him down for sex since we made up, even when I'm totally not feeling it. Whenever he'd go out with his single friends, I'd feel an urge to 'get him off' beforehand to ensure he'd have no sexual frustration or a 'wandering eye'. I don't argue or speak my mind as much. Our relationship has been operating smoothly...

      Comments:

      I'm sorry but this sounds really unhealthy. Have you thought about seeing a marriage counselor?

      He has hands and managed to spend years not having sex in the past.

      If you're going to stay together, why haven't you gone to see a marriage counselor yet?

      You are in a totally submissive situation. Get couples counseling.

      Fuck these people.

      [–]Tarnsman4Life 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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      Couldn't have said it better myself, fuck those people; it sounds like the relationship is working smoothly now!

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      Everything in that paragraph is gold. The fact that it is getting hate just boggles the mind. The problem is that the girl is acting totally natural but seems to think that it's wrong because of feminism and all that shit.

      [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 19 points20 points  (4 children)

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      8 weeks is some serious "I'm not taking any of your bullshit - I'm having none of it" dread game.

      That's some "Don't even play that shit with me" enforcer type shit.

      Now the dude's in the gym getting all swoll and his lady is SWEATING him BIG TIME.

      Say what you want, but what was his choice? Kowtowing to her relationship power grab? Forcing him to eventually give in and have a kid when he isn't ready or doesn't want one?

      The marriage probably won't last over the long haul if she wants kids and he doesn't - but that's better than him having a kid when he didn't want one - thus acquiescing control over the relationship to his wife. You know what that means - likely the marriage failing anyway and him ending up being estranged from his child and paying child support.

      [–]Sylxian 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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      Everyone, but you, forgot about why it started: she wanted a kid, he didn't.

      [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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      Yeah that is kind of important isn't it?

      [–]Sylxian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      I would say so. It was quite the immature move on her part that started the whole thing.

      [–]Fiach_Dubh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      assuming the kid is his...

      [–]iusedtodiggraves 18 points19 points  (0 children)

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      A man is like a fire. If left unattended, it tends to go out.

      [–]Abbrevi8 38 points39 points  (5 children)

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      Did anyone pull her up for using sex as a weapon/bargaining chip/ punishment?

      [–]masturbateawy 54 points55 points  (2 children)

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      Yup and they got downvoted to hell, the people defending her either admit to not having read the original thread or claim it's ok to be disinterested in sex for 2 months and he should have dealt with it. If you're in a relationship where the person pisses you off so much that you don't want to be intimate with them and you can't come to an agreement within 2 months then you are using sex as a way to push them into seeing things your way. Of course they'll never see it that way. They both behaved childishly but she never expected him to stoop to her level.

      [–]Abbrevi8 16 points17 points  (0 children)

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      One would say he did deal with it eh? If I ever end up married I'd do a similar thing.

      [–]batman50 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      Asking others to get responsibility for your decisions is the base of the shaming tatics. Those women are masters of it.

      [–]dvrzero 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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      [–]Sturmgeist781 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      What's funny is, all those hags that downvoted you or tried to say you're wrong....well they spend their entire time on reddit just in that sub.

      I'd say it's safe to say if they spend so much time in a subreddit about relationships, they can't be doing to well in their own if they even have one.

      [–]Notinjuschillin 17 points18 points  (0 children)

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      yeah but if he stopped giving her a shoulder to cry on, an ear to hear her gripes, and if she went to another man..then that would be justified. Women kill me with that bullshit.

      [–]blarsen80 34 points35 points  (2 children)

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      r/sex and r/relationships is my favorite place to go if I want to get downvoted

      [–]karmaxsubmarine 9 points10 points  (0 children)

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      seriously. All I asked was "Maybe she shouldn't have used sex as a weapon" and I was downvoted.

      [–]RPGoon 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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      That's what happens when you use sex as a weapon.

      /thread

      [–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 10 points11 points  (0 children)

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      Submissiveness is a woman's strength. It might sound weird but it is. Men are programmed to protect and provide for women. When a woman comes up and says she can do it all herself and doesn't need a man, his programming gets unused. He now does whatever he wants. Once she submits to him she gains control of him. She gains access to his power and all he has to offer. It's a pretty amazing process actually. Women have been taught that this is a weakness though and so she resents being submissive in this relationship.

      I don't agree with his getting action outside of the marriage, but I also don't agree with her not holding up her side of the relationship. He should have just said either put out or you lose your place in line.

      [–]attaxx 9 points10 points  (0 children)

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      [–]MMAPundit 30 points31 points  (12 children)

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      She literally became the perfect wife.

      [–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 52 points53 points  (11 children)

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      All except for the "making private marital affairs the business of reddit" part.

      [–]Sabetsu 8 points9 points  (9 children)

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      And the whole part where she resents her husband and probably shouldn't be with someone who wants to have sex as often since they are probably incompatible anyway.

      Also, why would any man want to have sex with a woman who is arguing with him about having a baby when he doesn't want one? Pretty easy to get fucked over there if you're attracted to non-stable women.

      [–]chimpichanga 11 points12 points  (8 children)

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      Also, like, did she not have sex with him for 8 weeks because she wanted a baby? That's the opposite thing that you want to be doing.

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        [–]RedPillScare 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        When she has baby rabies, he must control the prophylaxis.

        [–]Sabetsu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        Gee, really?

        [–]NakedAndBehindYou 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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        Pro-tip: Women cannot keep secrets. Sure, not all women will go talking about it on the internet with thousands of strangers, but they will tell their friends. It doesn't matter how personal or private you think it should be; if a woman knows something, at the bare minimum her best friend will know it too (and that friend will proceed to tell others).

        [–]Kepaso 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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        this is some roissy shit in action!

        [–]3Varrian 23 points24 points  (1 child)

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        I sometimes lay awake at night feeling resentful towards him

        Translation: I love how he gives me the tingles now.

        [–]Human_v2 35 points36 points  (0 children)

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        She probably does legitimately resent the fact she has given up the power in the relationship, must be a strange feeling to go from withholding sex and feeling in control to realising suddenly that that no longer works in her relationship.

        [–]2lightfire409 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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        "OH NO!! The relationship is not a 50/50 relationship! The man has the power now! Abort relationship! Go to counseling!" <- /r/relationships response.

        [–]Dat_Black_Guy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        in a nutshell...yea. She's submissive and he's lifting getting attention an that scares her...ugh

        [–]Herb-Eversmells 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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        Unbelievable

        [–]brons104 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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        What in the world did she expect to happen? Her husband to be like "Ohh, she won't sleep with me! I'll change my position immediately and bow to her every whim!" Bull. Shit. The saying "Men who are put out in the dog house soon find their way into the cat house..." applies here.

        [–]Fenrisulfr22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        This worked a near-miracle for me. I honestly opened our marriage (with her approval) and our lives changed almost overnight. She saw I had options and after a couple years of agony instantly changed her behavior. I am happy being polyamorous; as a couple we have never been better. I'm not sure what TRP crowd thinks about that.

        [–]1pcadrian 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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        He started going to the gym again as a new years resolution and he's already made noticeable progress. In fact he's never looked better. This has come with new-found confidence and attention from attractive girls - on our valentines dinner (we celebrated on Feb15 due to schedule conflict) our WAITRESS hit on him infront of me.

        Do you need more motivation to go get in shape and work on yourself?

        [–]Exactly_what_I_think 6 points7 points  (3 children)

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        Can't comment in that shit whole /r/relationships. I keep getting "you are doing that too much. try again in * minutes." Second comment and I get a timer. Fucking reddit encouraging karma whoring.

        [–]Offensive_Brute 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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        i have 7 alts. they cant stop me.

        [–]sweetleef 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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        Don't bother unless you just want to troll them. It's a waste of time. Nobody there is looking for reasoning or counterarguments, they will just auto-downvote.

        Then, they go through the posting history of anybody that calls them out on their circlejerk and then ban anyone who's posted to an "unacceptable" sub (TRP, gun-anything, republicans, etc.).

        [–]dvrzero 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        I get told to go back to trp a lot but never banned.

        I ignore the comments because it's bad logic and therefore not worth arguing about.

        [–]Spiderman48 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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        Too much alpha. Too much ballin'.

        /s

        [–]Tyger-Tyger 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        That's some weird shit right there.

        [–]Carbone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        This is so perfect ! I'm so happy for TRP !

        [–]EscortSportage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        moral of the story. dont get married.

        [–]Doomsday_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        I haven't once turned him down for sex since we made up, even when I'm totally not feeling it.

        Perfect example of how the wife must put out more when she realizes her husband has higher SMV.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        We have stayed together but I've been experiencing so many mixed emotions. He started going to the gym again as a new years resolution and he's already made noticeable progress. In fact he's never looked better. This has come with new-found confidence and attention from attractive girls - on our valentines dinner (we celebrated on Feb15 due to schedule conflict) our WAITRESS hit on him infront of me. Sure didn't do much for my confidence, and really made me wonder if he's getting this kind of attention at work, at the gym, when he goes out with his single friends, etc.

        Hehe. Just cut the bullshit and admit it, you're in shock because you thought you had him whipped.

        [–]dauntlessmax 4 points5 points  (8 children)

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        I wonder how religious women would react

        [–]Abbrevi8 25 points26 points  (7 children)

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        She'd probably fuck her husband in the first place.

        [–]nninja 19 points20 points  (6 children)

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        This. Pious women aren't bad in bed like feminists like to say.

        [–]ProfessorD2 10 points11 points  (5 children)

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        They seem like cold fish only because they're not sluts.

        [–]nninja 16 points17 points  (3 children)

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        Ya this bs that an "experienced" woman will satisfy us more in bed. Lol gtfo

        [–]stupid_fucking_name 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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        Who wouldn't rather marry a virgin that you can teach exactly what you like?

        [–]nninja 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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        feminists and manginas apparently

        [–]ProfessorD2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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        We've over-complicated sex. It's not really that complicated.

        Two people get naked, try things out, and see what they like or don't like. The only way to fuck this up is to (a) not try, or (b) not communicate what you like and don't like.

        It's not that complex and doesn't require multiple articles in every Cosmo and Red Book. Want to know "that one trick that will drive your man wild?" Frikkin ask him!

        [–]Offensive_Brute 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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        yep and she'll be a slut for her husband if given time and appropriate encouragement.

        [–]Kwizkey 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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        Does she maybe not resent her husband but resent the attraction and care she feels for her husband?

        [–]roadywan 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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        Standard hamstering...dislikes any situation it if it isn't on their terms.

        [–]boydeer 1 point2 points  (3 children)

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        lol

        Redpill much? Either that or a lack of understanding how people/relationships work. Oh wait those are the same thing. People don't get horny when they are emotionally unstable buddy.

        /r/TheRedPill: yuh-huh

        [–]SmokeU 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        Validation of TRP

        [–]totorox 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        I just hate these censored subreddits. Of course the thread will be politically correct because if your comment isn't, you're banned. It's stated in the sidebar :

        Rules for posting to /r/Relationships

        This sub is about helping people in need - if you aren't doing that, through abuse, meta arguments or going off on pointless tangents your comments may be removed.

        No tough love allowed. Only mushy support of OP's whoredom and nastiness.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        Holy shit, that is classic! hahahaha

        [–]Rex83 16 points17 points  (25 children)

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        He's wrong for hiring a prostitute as well though. If you opt for marriage, you agree to be monogamous "in good times and in bad ones". She very much provoked it and probably in the atmosphere of a marriage broke her word as well. Which IMO puts them both on the same, low level.

        Dread game obviously yields results, but personally I wouldn't want to be in a marriage where sex is used as a bargaining chip for the woman to begin with. Which is another reason why I wouldn't want to be in a marriage at all, because sooner or later most women will use it to win an argument.

        [–]Sabetsu 15 points16 points  (2 children)

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        My own SO's mom suggested I use sex as a bargaining chip. She said it jokingly, but I know she's the kind of person to do that. When I told her I don't use sex as a punishment or a reward (bargaining chip), I kind of got the cold shoulder for awhile. =/ Fuck me, right?

        [–]newguy75 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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        Women only respect men when they are cads. Simple truth.

        [–]Sabetsu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        I'm actually a woman and I think that is why my SO's mom got so upset/flustered about it. I'm not part of their club.

        [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

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        personally I wouldn't want to be in a marriage where sex is used as a bargaining chip for the woman to begin with

        Easiest way ive found is to be upfront about the consequences for its use this way from the start.

        Make it very plain that one way or another, you're gonna be having a sex life. She can be part of it or she can keep her mouth shut as a bystander.

        [–]dvrzero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        I've been saying this for over a decade to every girl. It does work, because if they remember. They always remember those words.

        [–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 48 points49 points  (10 children)

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        He's wrong for hiring a prostitute as well though. If you opt for marriage, you agree to be monogamous "in good times and in bad ones".

        No. If he has to abide by his marriage vows, then she must abide by hers.

        It used to be commonly accepted that a woman had to give her husband sex whenever he demanded it, even if she didn't feel like it, because it was her wifely duty. Of course, we have no such expectations nowadays, because women are no longer expected to bear any responsibility whatsoever.

        Hiring a prostitute is simply his way of adjusting to the change in the "social battlefield". It was the right move.

        [–]Kaelteth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        It comes down to that "Obey" has been yanked from the modern marriage vows for women.

        [–]Rex83 9 points10 points  (7 children)

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        That's a difference of opinion then. My conclusion in a social battlefield where someone doesn't play by the rules, is to just leave it, or never to be in it in the first place (marriage). Instead of breaking the rules myself.

        At least I'll be able to look myself straight in the mirror, and all those white knights and divorce courts would be more sensible and realize that withholding sex within a marriage for a prolonged period is wrong, instead of polluting the discussion by viewing the things from her side only. Leaving the field instead of breaking the rules gives more fuel to the train of thought that her course of action was wrong. It's things like this that prevent a general paradigm shift from feminism to sensibility. It might not be intellectually fair in the first place, but it's pragmatic.

        The fact that it was a prostitute doesn't make it better IMO. He should've just started spinning plates instead of paying for sex.

        [–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 26 points27 points  (5 children)

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        It's things like this that prevent a general paradigm shift from feminism to sensibility.

        Being a single, honourable man in an ocean of ham beasts and white knights won't fix the problem. This isn't a war of principle.

        Our damaged attitudes about sex and relationships come from the fact that we are living in a culture of abundance. Resource availability is what dictates the spirit of a culture. Abundance leads to laziness, risk-aversion, self-entitlement, and feminine imperative fulfillment. Scarcity leads to competition, risk-assessment, pragmatism, and male-imperative recognition.

        Western cultures won't change just because a few men are fighting the good fight. It's going to take the cruel reality of nature for people to remember the value of male imperatives. Social and economic collapse, followed by a dire need for stern leadership and ruthless pragmatism. Hell, we're well on our way there.

        You'll see how fast ham beasts and white knights alike will shut their mouths when there are more bullets than pancakes.

        [–]Rex83 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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        I think I can agree with that. I just have difficulties with not living by my own principles, even if it doesn't benefit me.

        [–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        I just have difficulties with not living by my own principles, even if it doesn't benefit me.

        I can understand and respect that.

        It's funny. Over time, I've personally found that my principles have shifted. They now centre less on abstract ideas and more on how I treat myself and on how I allow myself to be treated by others.

        [–]1mrust 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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        [–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        I did, thanks.

        [–]SgtBrutalisk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        [–]TheIslander829 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        In countries with Civil Code law it's still the law that you have to fuck your spouse. It's in the marriage contract. It even says you have to sleep in the same bed.

        [–]Offensive_Brute 9 points10 points  (4 children)

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        he didnt have to hire a prostitute. going to the gym getting fit, staying out late, and her mind will automatically picture you fucking other women.

        [–]randomkloud 10 points11 points  (3 children)

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        if you're gonna do the time might as well do the crime.

        [–]Offensive_Brute 7 points8 points  (2 children)

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        I suffer from the christian morals. You don't break any commandments by making her think your fucking other women.

        [–]randomkloud 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        Ah, as it happens I share the same limiting chains as you, just a different brand of it.

        That would indeed be the ideal action without actually going against ones morals.

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          [–]Rex83 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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          Well, she doesn't have to know exactly whether or not he would see these women sexually or not in the first place. In all cases it's good to setup options in case the marriage fails, it makes filing for divorce a lot easier emotionally.

          [–]LAMFF 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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          She would have been my ex-wife after one week of this sex withholding nonsense.

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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          Knights, raise your visors, Sir Clarence of the White rode fast through the night to rescue this poor maiden:

          I'm sorry but this sounds really unhealthy. Have you thought about seeing a marriage counselor? It's not fair that you feel like you can never say no to sex because he'll just hire a prostitute again or find someone else. It's also not fair that you take the full blame for his shitty choice. He did not need to hire a prostitute. He has hands and managed to spend years not having sex in the past. You really should not be putting up with him blaming cheating on you when your marriage was rocky and the resentment is understanable. Will it get better? ONLY if you address it and work on it. Lying on it and hoping it will go away like you are will allow it to fester and get worse. Look in to counseling where you can mediate the healing process and get your husband to actually accept some damn responsibility for his bad choices instead of just blaming you. That is very not okay and needs to be addressed for your sake. How did your husband react to the waitress? Did he turn her down?

          [–]watersign 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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          lolo women are fucking worthless

          [–]Crazystarf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          It would have a bigger impact if the husband had an affair on the side, but a hooker is fine too.

          [–]kol15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          there's a pleasant number of legitimately realistic responses in that thread