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[–]wonderfulish 510 points511 points  (59 children)

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Do it. If she escapes the consequences of terrible actions in her formative years, she may think that there are no consequence for being terrible and continue being a terrible person for the rest of her life. You are doing her a favor. Do it.

[–]long-lostfriend[S] 232 points233 points  (50 children)

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That's exactly what I concluded. I was in no danger of getting hurt (although for a second there I sincerely thought that it was going to be the first time in my 10+ year career that I would have had to physically take down an out-of-control student).

You have no idea how the public school system fosters our societal problems. It's not just that Johnny somehow made it to tenth grade without being able to read. Public school insulates kids from the consequences of their actions in all but the most egregious of offenses. It's like students think of school as some place different from the real world, because real-world rules don't get enforced there. I have told several students on more than one occasion that the things that they say to me and to other teachers would get their asses kicked (or worse, land them in a morgue) were they to say it to someone outside of the walls of the school.

Like I mentioned in the OP, some girls will never take personal responsibility for their actions. Making an example of her is reason enough for me.

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    [–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 79 points80 points  (0 children)

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    Public school insulates kids from the consequences of their actions in all but the most egregious of offenses.

    Yep. And female students have the added insulation provided by their pussy pass.

    You're doing the right thing by pursuing this matter to the fullest extent of the law.

    [–]Aaron565 13 points14 points  (1 child)

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    Ive witnessed this first hand as a student. Kids in general will get away with cursing someone out, but the girls are much much worse. They can really do almost anything they want (other than getting in a fight) and get away with it. Its simply because its socially correct to go easy on a girl, even if they fucked up.

    That mentality is outdated. When a girl cries after seeing real repercussions I'll make sure to be there to laugh, grow the fuck up.

    [–]Cryocasm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    My sister pulls this shit all the time, she thinks because she's a girl the world will see me, the man, as the bad guy.

    Fuck that shit, my late grandmother stood true to me because she knew my sister was a false cunt, but before my grandmother could turn her into a proper person she died. Nevertheless: girls (and in 10 years when they're grown) women think they can pull this BS on men. This is a direct consequence the widespread betafication of young men, because if young men are turned beta, they cannot keep the young girls in check themselves, and then they start getting ideas.

    [–]_waltzy 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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    I don't really think that the public school system insulates kids from the consequences of their actions, I see countless stories on reddit each and every day about boys facing overreactions form schools / police.

    An example form today

    But you very rarely see these stories about girls; not that I can offer any tangible metrics for this observation.

    [–]libglip 11 points12 points  (1 child)

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    |Public school insulates kids from the consequences of their actions in all but the most egregious of offenses.

    Such as gnawing a Pop-Tart into the shape of a Colt 1911. Oh, wait....

    [–]KizahdStenter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    You mean a right angle? The horror!!!

    [–]imstunned 41 points42 points  (21 children)

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    By all means, proceed. But there is no way she or her mom will ever actually learn the lesson. They're incapable of personal responsibility; it's just not in their genes.

    [–]2Red_August 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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    And make sure the rest of the class gets a lesson on responsibility, and the consequences of one's actions.

    [–]alwayskeeptrying 12 points13 points  (3 children)

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    You have no idea how the public school system fosters our societal problems. It's not just that Johnny somehow made it to tenth grade without being able to read. Public school insulates kids from the consequences of their actions in all but the most egregious of offenses.

    I agree with you so, so, so much.

    I went through the public school system while disabled, which results in an even more extreme version of this. The public school system was willing to falsify my grades, graduate me for no reason, and give me a blowjob while I pissed my life away playing video games. My home life, not really different, I was always the innocent victim of a cruel world.

    I'm ultimately responsible for the bad decisions I made, but in retrospect, I just wish the system had the courage to let me fail. I dropped out purely out of pride (they were TRYING to give me that diploma, no matter how much I slacked off in school), then I hit a sort of rock bottom where I didn't go to work or school or even talk to people. Then I bounced back, and in a few years I was an overachieving university student living on his own.

    It's amazing how much my personality and life improved when I faced consequences for my actions, when I was finally accountable to someone, myself. All the forgiveness, excuses, and feel-good bullshit fucked with my mind.

    P.S. I would go through with pressing charges OP. Her mother will clearly never tell her that she was wrong to do what she did. Maybe, like me, she needs to feel the real consequences of her actions rather then the toned down version. Not only is this girl victimizing you, she's victimizing the next girl that gets sexually assaulted or raped who isn't believed because "well, girls lie about this kind of thing all the time". If she doesn't learn her lesson, it needs to be on her record the next time she tries something like this.

    [–]MrOctopus16 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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    You literally described my high school experience the only reason I graduated high school is because my English teacher told me don't worry about the final I'll pass you, my Economics and Physics teacher just made me turn in some homework assignments and they told me that they would pass me if I did that.

    Sometimes I think that because I was never disciplined for my lazy behavior is why I ended up failing college and got put on academic probation with a GPA of about 0.66. I thought it would work in college as well but you have to actually look out for yourself there and I guess I didn't realize that soon enough and I'm pretty disappointed in myself. I'm now in community college trying to get my grades up so I can go back to college.

    [–]alwayskeeptrying 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    I knew a few others like me, that all graduated and went to college because it was just the thing to do. They all got crushed.

    While I of course wish I wasted none of my life, I do feel my decision to accept the consequences of slacking off in grade 12 was a good one.

    [–]indigotrip 3 points4 points  (4 children)

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    You're totally doing the right thing. If you get a chance you should explain to her why you are pressing charges (apart from the obvious). Like to teach her actions have consequences and silly little girls lying about men gets peoples lives and careers in danger.

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      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      Considering there is a completely different legal structure around schools, and a reliance on an authoritarian system to maintain order, it's no wonder. Kids grow up thinking that adults obey laws to be good and that they'll have real freedom of expression when they graduate or leave, but even the most basic of freedoms need to be fought for, and our schools conveniently ignore that reality.

      [–]motivator54 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      second there I sincerely thought that it was going to be the first time in my 10+ year career that I would have had to physically take down an out-of-control student). You have no idea how the public school system fosters our societal problems. It's not just that Johnny somehow made it to tenth grade without being able to read. Public school insulates kids from the consequences of their actions in all but the most egregious of offenses. It's like students think of school as some place different from the real world, because real-world rules don't get enforced there. I have told several students on more than one occasion that the things that they say to me and to other teachers would get their asses kicked (or worse, land them in a morgue) were they to say it to someone outside of the walls of the school.

      Op please do a follow up on this. I am interested.

      [–]DasWood 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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      It sounds like to me a psychopath being raised by a psychopath. The juvenile system won't fix it. The school system won't fix it. The mother definitely won't fix it. All you can do is hope that by pressing charges she is taken out of society at large.

      [–]alt30313 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      If she escapes the consequences of terrible actions in her formative years, she may think that there are no consequence for being terrible and continue being a terrible person for the rest of her life. You are doing her a favor.

      She'll also serve as an example to your other students. If she gets away with it she'll just learn to be more cleaver next time because if she tries and fails the worst that will happen is a slap on the wrist.

      [–]Complecs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      It's like students think of school as some place different from the real world, because real-world rules don't get enforced there.

      That's exactly how I thought in highschool. I was wrong for it, and luckily didn't get myself in enough trouble to hurt myself in the long run.

      [–]redpill-lurker 55 points56 points  (0 children)

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      You are doing her a favor.

      Most importantly, he's doing society a favor.

      [–]Ghadis 14 points15 points  (0 children)

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      Fuck doing her a favor. He should do it so a violent, lying bitch gets thrown into reform school.

      [–]Arkanian410 9 points10 points  (0 children)

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      Be sure to buy a beer for the kid who was smart enough to video the whole thing... or some candy.

      [–]dave_is_not_here 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      Forget her; one less entitled, dishonest cunt in the world is doing all American men a favor!

      [–]19 Endorsed Contributordrrrrrr 683 points684 points  (27 children)

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      When I saw this title, I was like, "Dude, to fuck a girl in high school you do not need to do any ornate "Black Knight TRP game" or anything like that..."

      Then I read the post. Any guy who did that would have been expelled - making up evidence, lying to the police, getting the school involved in this scandal, and for the original misbehavior. He ain't getting into Harvard after this fiasco. And I knew a lot of guys in high school who got into tiny disciplinary issues like this that they had to report on their college applications, usually stuff they did freshman year.

      Everyone is going to be rooting for you to drop the charge, but you have to go through with it. Not because of her, it is not about her. It's because people need to learn that this type of abusive behavior that would have massive repercussions for a man... will have the same consequences for a woman.

      [–]colovick 121 points122 points  (11 children)

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      I once had a teacher who was attacked in his home by a group of students who were outside breaking windows, throwing things and threatening his life... He called the cops and was strongly asked to drop the charges by the school board because of who some of the kids were... He didn't and that was his last year teaching in that county... It's sad and fucked up, but it's one of many reasons why I'll never be a teacher

      [–]SupALupRT 35 points36 points  (9 children)

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      He couldnt sue the school for this?

      [–]colovick 37 points38 points  (8 children)

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      I had no follow up with him afterwards, but he already had enough to retire early and suing is a good way to not be hireable elsewhere...

      [–]cascadecombo 64 points65 points  (9 children)

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      From the title I thought the same as well initially.

      [–]sushisection 154 points155 points  (1 child)

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      Then i read the first sentence. "So, I am a high school teacher."

      Whoa dude

      [–]2 Mredpillschool 81 points82 points  (0 children)

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      My finger was on the remove button, but was pleasantly surprised with the results.

      [–]jmottram08 18 points19 points  (2 children)

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      And I knew a lot of guys in high school who got into tiny disciplinary issues like this that they had to report on their college applications, usually stuff they did freshman year.

      What?

      Really?

      I know that none of my college applications asked for any disciplinary shit... they asked if I was a felon, and whether I had been convicted of anything else... but I assume that was for state funding reasons, or if I were a sex offender I assume I couldn't get dorm housing.

      As far as high school level principal office trips... not at all.

      [–]19 Endorsed Contributordrrrrrr 27 points28 points  (1 child)

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      They ask have you ever been suspended. I know guys who were suspended for various dumb shit, like one guy got suspended and kicked off the football team because he sexually harassed a girl... turns out later he didn't actually say anything sexual, they were just arguing and calling each other morons / etc. But the video tape wasn't considered until his parents' lawyer got involved.

      [–]gocougs11 17 points18 points  (0 children)

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      My college applications definitely did not ask if I had ever been suspended.

      [–]killingmind 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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      r/MensRights

      [–]sheriffbigbywolf 144 points145 points  (18 children)

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      Teenage girls who cry and make up stories to try and get themselves out of trouble grow up to be the kind of woman who will make false rape and abuse allegations in order to get back at men who make them angry. If

      Damn, this hit close to home. They don't just grow up to be that way. They already are.

      I got hit with a false accusation of rape by a girl like this. Super slutty girl, foul mouthed, bad girl type, taking drugs and dick sucking since she was twelve years old. She cheated on her BF with me. Of course she had a single mother. No father figure to speak of. She lied about her age to me (she was under 18, I was about one month over), and about having a boyfriend. When I found out all this after hooking up with her, I called her BF and told him what happened. She told me not to and I did it anyway. I didn't want to be that guy since I had been cheated on in a past relationship and knew that pain.

      That night the motherfucker tried to burn my house down. I lived with my parents at the time who were at home sleeping. They called the cops and the kid got arrested.

      Next thing I know, police are knocking at my door too, and the girl is claiming I violently raped her after getting her drunk (none of drank a drop that night, including her). This is the same girl who, 48 hours earlier, was telling me to put a condom on because "I want you" and "OMG you're making me so fucking horny" (her exact words).

      I almost killed myself in that jail cell. Almost. I thought my life was over. I thought I would no longer be able to go to college, which I aphid just been accepted to - my top school, on a late admission - or ever have a decent job. I was going to hang myself. Until I saw the words someone else had written on the bottom of the top bunk bed, "No matter what happens, we all have the power to grow". For some reason that kept me from kicking off and letting the noose do its thing.

      Good thing, too, because the judge dropped the rape charge and scolded not just the girl, but her mother, in the court room, for filing a frivolous charge and trying to use the justice system to get revenge. He had some harsh words for me too, but ultimately all the charges were dismissed.

      I consider myself extremely fortunate.

      Oh yeah, and throughout the entire process, at no point did anyone - the cops, the detective, her friends my friends, ANYONE - ask "what she was wearing" or say any of the mythical victim blaming shit you hear about. I saw all the footage of her interviews, and the one or two friends from my hometown who stayed loyal to me through the fallout, told me everything they heard people say. No one ever doubted this chick's story. At all. They heard the word "rape" and immediately assumed she was telling the truth and that I was guilty. In fact, they went out of their way to affirm it. One of my friends got jumped and beaten blue while pissing in a field at a party, by a gang of dudes who knew the girl. Just for being my friend. I got threatened, harassed, and stalked by white knight dudes and angry girls who didn't know me and who barely knew her, just because they heard the rumor.

      I was able to go to college, after all, and I live in a different city now. I have a good job (100k+ per year), and am mostly alright. I have my health and my family. I can't go home to visit them too often, because people STILL talk about that shit (it's a small town) and I have come very close to blows with people looking at me and whispering.

      That false accusation, which was over a decade ago, still follows me everywhere I go. A lot of days I think about killing myself and leaving in my suicide note, "I didn't rape her". Many professional doors are closed to me forever. Because I have just an arrest related to a sexual crime (not even a conviction), I can never have any kind of public job or do what I always wanted to do, which is be a defense attorney.

      I know TRP's enemies will probably latch onto this post and say OMG WE FOUND A LIVE ONE SEE ALL THOSE GUYS ARE CREEPS AND RAPISTS LOL but fuck them, I needed to get this off my chest. I was really angry after reading OP's post.

      Shut that idiot down, OP, and do it as harshly as possible.

      TL;DR false rape, lies, manipulation, and depression, because of the same shit OP described

      [–]JadedReflection 32 points33 points  (7 children)

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      Have almost the same exact story bro. Small town, false rape, girl lied about age, I swear if I didn't know better I'd think I had written your post.

      [–]zenmushroom 9 points10 points  (5 children)

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      The more I read about this kind of stuff, the more I think that people should not have sex until they're either married, or have known someone for a very long time. Sex with the wrong person...or even associating with the wrong person...can fuck up your entire life. You gotta be very careful these days.

      [–]no_game_player 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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      That's been my take. It helps that I'm not particularly desperate for sex and generally don't like the company of people. Omega makes life rather simpler in many ways. ;-)

      [–]zenmushroom 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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      I don't think a lack of sex makes a person "omega," I think it makes them careful. The Ancient Germans actually associated virginity with manliness. They believed that a true Man could resist the temptations of sex until at least 20 years old. 20 doesn't seem very old to us today, but back when people were lucky to live that long it seemed a bit older.

      I don't think there is anything manly about fucking whatever comes your way. This is an idea I don't like about TRP, that to be some big alpha stud you gotta rack up all these "scores" with the ladies.

      Sure, I guess there's the idea that the more manly you are, the more sexual access you will have, but I don't think its wise to have sex with too many people. This increases the chances for a false rape allegation, STD, pregnancy and all sorts of other fun.

      My advice is to know someone for at least 6 months before you fuck them. I think that's enough time to know if they are crazy or not.

      [–]no_game_player 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      I consider myself 'omega' partly as a joke and partly for a variety of other reasons. It's basically my default since I'm not generally displaying alpha or beta tendencies but just going in a totally different direction that most people.

      I think you've got a pretty reasonable position on it.

      Sex / dating just isn't a part of my life at the moment, and I'm quite comfortable with that. I've got a lot of other areas of my life to get straight before it becomes any sort of a priority.

      [–]ufaild 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      Just film it.

      [–]16 Endorsed ContributorCyralea 24 points25 points  (3 children)

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      Kudos for making it through that, false rape charges have ruined stronger men than you and I. The most sobering part of the ordeal is how quickly your closest friends turn on you based on nothing but heresay.

      In my case a chick that I was white-knighting for back in my BP days decided it was worth her time to destroy me once I decided to stop enabling her self-destructive ways. She had a shitty troubled past and my ignorant self thought I could play Captain Save-a-Ho. I never pursued her sexually, I saw her like a wounded puppy. Once I realized she was gaming me for her personal validation and I decided to walk, she threw out false rape accusations to get back at me. Surprisingly, all but two of my closest circle of friends sided with her, and kicked me to the curb. This was a chick that my friends hardly knew. Your whole world can crumble at the mere words of a woman.

      Luckily for me she got cold feet about pursuing the rape charges because it generated more attention than she was ready for. Instead she went with the "I don't want to open up the past" angle and tried to get people to drop talking about it.

      OP, ream the shit out of this girl and make an example out of her. False rape charges aren't treated seriously in this country.

      [–]no_game_player 5 points6 points  (2 children)

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      This is really minor, but that's my specialty:

      heresay

      The word you're looking for is "hearsay" (like 'I hear you say...'). You sort of conflated it with "heresy" which is ~'blasphemy'.

      [–]16 Endorsed ContributorCyralea 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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      Thanks, noted

      [–]smokeybehr 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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      Because I have just an arrest related to a sexual crime (not even a conviction), I can never have any kind of public job or do what I always wanted to do, which is be a defense attorney.

      Not true. An arrest is not a conviction, and had better not show up on any kind of criminal background check. You don't have to reveal it unless specifically asked about an arrest. If it's still on your record, and hasn't been purged, then you should hire a lawyer to get it removed. There are lawyers that specifically deal in things like this.

      [–]RPthrowaway123 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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      Stories like this make me so angry. You're innocent until proven guilty by the law, but not the court of public opinion.

      [–]no_game_player 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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      "You can beat the charge, but you can't beat the ride". We don't have a justice system. We have a legal system, and it's corrupt as hell.

      [–]1PaulRivers10 45 points46 points  (1 child)

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      I agree with many of the other comments, but I think that something has been missed - you need to file charges to protect yourself.

      There are a certain group of people (narcissists?) for whom everything is about their ego and their self image. For these kind of people, the kind of damage to their ego of everyone knowing that they did what she did, and people making fun of her for it, is unacceptable.

      As long as this kind of person is in your school (I cannot tell you for sure whether this girl is that kind of person, but there's a good possibility since she was trying to get other people to lie about what happened and frame you) she will look for ways to heal this self-image by getting you accused of doing the same thing to someone else.

      She'll tell other people her version of what happened - people who weren't in your classroom, and don't know there's a video showing that she was wrong. They'll believe her and talk behind your back. She'll get a group of other girls who believe you're a monster. Then, she'll try to get one of them to make a similar accusation against you. You'll likely not even know she was involved in it - it will be a totally different student that you don't even know is associated with her. Her parents will come in and say "My girl couldn't be lying! And look - this guy was accused of doing the same thing 3 years ago! Why is this maniac still allowed to teach here?!".

      There's only 2 ways for her to overcome the shame of what happened publicly: 1. Ignore it and get it to go away. 2. Get you accused (and better yet, convicted) of doing the same thing to someone else. This way when it comes up she can tell people what you "did the same thing to another girl the next year" and feel justified about it (reality is not an issue in this kind of persons mind - it's completely about perception).

      The only real way for you to protect yourself from this is to get her out of your school. That removes her ability to manipulate other girls into going after you.

      Of course I cannot tell you over the internet whether all of this will happen or exactly what her response will be - but it's a possibility. If she had flown off the handle, but hadn't immediately encouraged other people to lie, maybe I would offer different advice. But she didn't - her immediate reaction was to ask other people to lie to frame you. If she thinks she can socially recover by getting other girls to lie about you as well, she almost certainly will. And next time there might not be a student there filming, or she'll claim it happened in private, etc.

      [–]martianmarvin 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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      I hadn't considered this. It's a good point. I'll just add that pressing charges now can help to protect not only the OP but also anyone else falsely accused by this young woman in the future, since there will be a record of what she did now. Given the way she handled this, it probably wasn't the first time that she has manipulated people to act against someone she doesn't like, and it might not be the last.

      [–]seancj133 91 points92 points  (26 children)

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      You better be sure that no one will know who you are by this story in this subreddit.

      [–]ss4james_ 63 points64 points  (5 children)

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      Yep, He's black-knighting and crucifying a spoiled little girl to teach her a lesson that will (hopefully) make her a better human being in the long run. But the whiteknights of reddit will crucify him in return if they doxxed him somehow.

      [–]drrtyfrrnr 16 points17 points  (1 child)

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      I would hardly call letting the legal system take it's course "black-knighting and crucifying" somebody. Let's not get too overboard here.

      [–]2 Mredpillschool 46 points47 points  (0 children)

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      Welcome to our culture, where serving legal justice to a woman is considered black knighting and out of the ordinary.

      [–]nsummy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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      Maybe I read it differently than you but this doesn't sound like a spoiled little (read:rich, white) girl. Sounds more like someone with a ghetto mentality who will probably now go to an alternative school and fall even more into the cycle of this behavior

      [–]Sturmgeist781 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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      Well tough titties.

      This girl doesn't deserve any slack. If it were a boy that did it he would have been expelled and sent to an alternative school until an investigation was finished. Because it was a female "LOL! YOU GET TWO DAYS SUSPENSION TO THINK ABOUT IT!".

      [–]long-lostfriend[S] 50 points51 points  (15 children)

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      Despite my frequent Red-Pill advice to the young men whom I have as a captive audience, I think it's pretty safe to assume that none of them frequent this subreddit. I know for certain that none of them know of my presence here nor my username, which I only use for RP/manosphere activities.

      Thanks for the advice, though.

      [–]Tsilent_Tsunami 62 points63 points  (1 child)

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      Delete this post, if there's any truth to this. With the police involved and legal actions about to happen, odds are high that your comments here will become known.

      Moments later, I had the loudmouth bitch in the principal's office,

      Yeah, this is not going to enhance your case. Your attorney would facepalm so hard on seeing this.

      [–]no_game_player 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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      Yup. OP has made a major mistake by leaving this up. This is a place that has a lot of traffic. The story is likely one that has happened in very few places with this particular set of circumstances in this exact time frame. If it's not unique, it's close enough that any situation associated with this will be tarred by these comments.

      And maybe not. But why take the risk?

      [–]TheCastle 25 points26 points  (9 children)

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      Dude I have been lurking here and the Blue pill too. This place is not a place you want any kind of laundry dirty or not. The advice you are receiving is dead on. The raging about all posts I read here is amazing to me.

      edit: I went to the blue pill just now and read some more. Its pure rage in its finest form. I am speechless. Its like /r/rage but its only about one topic.

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        [–]TheCastle 5 points6 points  (7 children)

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        Actually, my theory is this, someone here who is a redpiller wronged a girl awhile back somehow. She then went an a vendetta to destroy him and she blamed theredpill.

        Every fucking post, Almost every fucking one reads EXACTLY like an angry ex girlfriend. Nearly every fucking one. Besides maybe a rare occurrence of something interesting. Threads, responses you name it. Its all a giant ex girlfriend Its the Borg of angry ex girlfriends. I genuinely fear that place.

        So one of you fuckers did this LOL

        [–]J1MEONE 1 point2 points  (5 children)

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        So true, every post reads like a pissed off feminazi, and they consume the whole subreddit to bitch about us.

        We aren't bitching about them, we are simply fucking them.

        We are improving ourselves and our perceptions.

        They are crabs in a bucket.

        I guess the Red Pill really does work! Thanks, TheBluePill for proving it to me once and for all :)

        [–]no_game_player 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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        Yeah, there have actually been posts along those lines there before. Basically, any guy they date and don't like, must've been TRP's fault...

        [–]boydeer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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        delete the post. if you have assumed responsibility for doing something you consider important, than take every precaution to ensure success. Cheers.

        [–]1FloranHunter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        It's not your students that are a concern. The SJWs of reddit will destroy your career if they can.

        [–]BuckFutter422 9 points10 points  (0 children)

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        Also a high school teacher. This was my very first thought. I don't think OP should have posted this.

        [–]snuffdog 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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        This. You better be sure, no matter what. Delete it today/tomorrow. Serve sweet justice on that little brat.

        [–][deleted] 207 points208 points  (0 children)

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        Crucify that bitch. This shit needs to be the norm to show those little twats that this is no way to act towards other human beings.

        [–]1independentmale 138 points139 points  (1 child)

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        Hell yes! Nail that bitch to the wall and do not back down under any circumstances!

        I'm sick to fucking death of females lying through their goddamn teeth and getting away with it. If she can accuse you of assault so easily, you know damn well she'll have no trouble escalating to molestation or outright rape accusations next time. "He grabbed my ass/tits/crotch" will roll off her tongue like ice cream on a hot summer day once she realizes the power it holds. Being falsely accused of touching a young girl will destroy a man. Even when there is zero evidence, the public absolutely crucifies him.

        This little cunt tried to destroy your career. To take food off your table and forever change your future financial prospects. She learned that shit from her mother, as you've found out. Make them both pay and perhaps she'll think twice next time (though I sure as hell won't be holding my breath).

        [–]Mjazz3 25 points26 points  (0 children)

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        You should lay charges. Not because it will help improve her, it will probably just make her even more bitter and twisted, but it will teach a lesson to the rest of the school and those who run it. The word will get around that its dangerous to contrive accusations against people.

        [–]omega_fat 57 points58 points  (0 children)

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        Do it. You have to, after what she tried to do to you.

        [–]ProfessorD2 27 points28 points  (0 children)

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        As a teacher of middle and high school students...

        PLEASE DO THIS.

        She needs to be made an example. Too many careers are ended because of false allegations. Students (and parents) need to know that this can't be tolerated.

        [–]Cerulean35 37 points38 points  (24 children)

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        Finally, a male teacher that has ballsacks.

        [–]long-lostfriend[S] 26 points27 points  (7 children)

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        You know, that's not as much the case as one might think. The main reason why more male (and female) teachers don't follow through on this kind of thing is a time and effort issue. I will likely have to go to court for this, and on top of all the other day-to-day shit that goes along with having more than 175 students to manage, it's one more thing that I will have to deal with.

        In my view, it's worth it, but I understand why others would pass just to have the issue behind them and get on with their business.

        [–]ozymodeus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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        Be sure to give us an update after all is said and done so we can find out whether the principal/judge/whatever let her use her pussy pass.

        [–]nsummy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        Just out of curiosity, is this girl a spoiled brat or someone who comes from a bad home life? if this is some well to do girl who should know better then I agree, throw the book at her. If she is someone who has been set up to fail from the beginning, I don't see how an alternative school will do anything except make the issue worse.

        [–]CAinCa 7 points8 points  (15 children)

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        I'm not trolling but I really take exception to that. Despite the shitty pay and the assumption that they're creepy pedophiles, the male teachers that I know, at least 10 of them, are hard-working and dedicated to what and how they teach.

        Think of this- they stand up in front of an angry or disinterested audience and they enforce their will to learn in spite of who they're talking to. That takes big balls and a huge commitment to serve humanity

        [–]1Modified_Hackware 9 points10 points  (0 children)

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        I'm not trolling either, But turning up to do the job you signed on for is not brave or indicative of large ball sacks.

        This guy consciously adding additional shit onto his plate for actual justice, knowing that he will probably get brigaded by a bunch of white knights and cunts takes brass balls.

        Soldiers are not heroes for soldiering.

        Teachers are not heroes for teaching.

        This guy is a fuckin' hero and his balls are such that he can sit on them whilst eating lunch.

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          [–]2dfx 3 points4 points  (5 children)

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          Where I live, teachers start at 32,000/yr.

          Not exactly "paid well".

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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          They work seven hour days and get three months off a year. That works out to about $23/hour. That's pretty good starting pay for a recent college graduate.

          Want to make more money? Get something 8-5 where you don't get all summer off. Or become a college professor.

          [–]cthulhucumsicle 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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          biL is a teacher. He talks all the time about full of crap this "underpaid teachers" argument is. Private schools cost half what the government spends public schools and offer a much better education.

          Government does 100% of things poorly. Why would you want it raising your children?

          [–]smokeybehr 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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          Son of a Public School Nurse. I went to public school for 5 years, and got the hell out. The rest of my education was at Catholic K-8 (for 6-8) and High School. Even though my GPA was in the 3.25 range, I still did better than my public school counterparts on tests and in College.

          [–]16 Endorsed ContributorCyralea 0 points1 point  (3 children)

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          This isn't limited to just teachers, everyone in a union environment complains about being underpaid. They're entitled as hell, and it's the only place where complaining actually gets you something.

          In Toronto, our transit union workers complain about being underpaid. Streetcar drivers start at $60,000/year and break 6-figures after a few decades. The guys in the ticket windows make similar starting amounts. That's right, the guy who gives you change for bus fare makes as much as a programmer. And they're "underpaid".

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            [–]16 Endorsed ContributorCyralea 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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            That's the worst part, when they strike. They basically hold the entire city hostage demanding ransom. Unions and the mafia are barely distinguishable.

            [–]Fallen_Angle 41 points42 points  (11 children)

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            Bring her world down so you don't run into this again.

            [–]BitingInsects 12 points13 points  (10 children)

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            Bring her world down

            Really? It's alternative school not prison.

            [–]scapeity 17 points18 points  (3 children)

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            Depending on the district, it is just as good as prison. I have seen alt schools with classrooms designed with holding cells so when the students act up, security puts them in the holding cell, so the teacher and keep legally teaching them.

            Also, aint nobody getting into a good college with a behavioral disciplinary school transcript.

            [–]MelodyMyst 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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            HA HA HA... this girl was never going to make it through college...

            [–]kinkydiver 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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            he probably meant her world as the place in her mind where everything revolves around her and she can have her way by making false accusations.

            [–]vflytrap 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Have you been to an alternative school mate? Its hell

            [–]cuntbh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Problem is, all you can do after going to somewhere like that is work at McD's, or live on welfare. Not much of a world there, is there?

            That said, it sounds like her mum was in a pretty similar situation.

            [–]ProfessorCordonnier 22 points23 points  (1 child)

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            File charges.

            [–]Kernes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            This. It is one of the rarest chances to make the cunt face consequences of her own actions. Don't drop it OP!!

            [–]4tune8 16 points17 points  (0 children)

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            People need to be held accountable for their actions, especially young women. They need to learn that the biological fact that they have a vagina is not a get out of jail free card in life. Since this girl has no father around, this could be a lesson that she would otherwise have never learned later on in life as she's screwing some other poor guy's life over.

            [–]swolebird 19 points20 points  (0 children)

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            Please file charges. It would honestly probably be the best thing for her in the long run.

            [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (2 children)

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            "As punishment the wizard did the worst thing possible to them: he left them to suffer the consequences of their own actions." - Wizards First Rule

            [–]PM_ME_BOOTYSHOTS 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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            The first rule: people are stupid. They'll believe anything they want to believe or fear is true.

            Also, Goodkind is really all about some sadomaso shit

            [–]CrispoFTW22 26 points27 points  (0 children)

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            Thank you, and good luck.

            [–]willFour 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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            I remember the days when if the teachers or cops called your parents because you were causing trouble, your parents would show up and side with the authorities, not you.

            [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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            Exactly! It used to go down something like this.

            Kid "Teacher was being a dick to me and he hit me!"

            Parent "What did you do to deserve being hit?"

            It never used to be "What are you doing that made my little dumpling lash out like that? She never does this at home. You just can't give her consequences for her actions."

            No shit, I used to work with a "special needs" girl who, by mothers INSISTENCE, had no consequences for her actions. That girl knew exactly what she was doing and why and she got away with so much shit because the mom would come to the school and bitch and moan about her daughter getting detention for being disruptive and leaving the classroom. Eventually all the teachers stopped giving a shit and ignored her. It was sad because all the teachers were very willing to work on her behavior if they were allowed to give her consequences but because of her mother that kid is going to grow up to be queen bitch.

            [–]Paddy32 8 points9 points  (0 children)

            If a boy did this he would have been expelled straight away. Is this equality ?

            [–]Pink_acetaminophen 15 points16 points  (1 child)

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            It's so ridiculous how these kids act towards people who dedicate their lives to help them.

            [–]NakedPerson 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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            It's a complete lack of consciousness. Closed, selfish behavior that really has no place in a progressive society. Obviously there is far worse, but this is on the spectrum of unacceptable behavior that must be dealt with swiftly.

            [–]bigyellowtwinki 17 points18 points  (8 children)

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            It sounds like future male teachers should have a running hidden camera in their classroom at all times. Then again, it wouldn't surprise me if that were somehow illegal, but if it were legal it may save a man or two from being crippled by a teenage girl.

            [–]long-lostfriend[S] 18 points19 points  (7 children)

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            Most schools have cameras in the hallways, but not in individual classrooms.

            Here, at least, it's not illegal to film students for school related purposes, but having a hidden camera running continuously would definitely open me up to accusations of being some kind of perverted predator. You know how things can get spun.

            [–]FugitiveAlpha 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            You could probably get away with this if you make it a "social media experiment" get a big obvious camera, and figure out some feel-good bullshit story behind why its there.

            [–]elduckbell 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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            What if it wasn't hidden but blatantly obvious ?

            [–]Purpledrank 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            He would be creep shamed easily.

            [–]boscoist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Open camera, redundant drive in the principals office. Problem solved.

            [–]boobookittyfyk 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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            As a girl and a mom I say do it. File the charges. Children need limits, and sometimes hard lessons. I think op is spot on.

            [–]Croc_Chop 10 points11 points  (0 children)

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            If you don't you're asking for it to happen again man, get her sent to another school she tried to make you lose your JOB your source of survival there is no forgiving that.

            [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

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            Definitely make her suffer the consequences of her actions. I'm so sick of women never having the same responsibilities or held to the same behavioral standards as men. We're supposed to be an egalitarian society right? Fair is fair, throw her to the wolves.

            [–]mustardhomie 18 points19 points  (2 children)

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            Sometimes the only way to learn is the hard way. Too bad she didn't have a father in her life. Another statistic...

            [–]SigmaMu 31 points32 points  (1 child)

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            But single mothers are just as good! A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle! Something something patriarchy!

            [–]jefecaminador1 17 points18 points  (0 children)

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            i would not post something like this on reddit, at least until it is already resolved.

            [–]bethelmayflower 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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            So what was the disciplinary action you took that set this girl off? Not that it matters a lot but just curious.

            [–]Redpillc0re 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            And if you have any doubts or second thoughs, don't! Go ahead with the filing.

            [–]2 Mredpillschool 10 points11 points  (2 children)

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            Remember, women are just as strong and independent as men, when things don't go their way they just call the police so other men can be strong for them!

            As a side note, be careful posting this stuff online, could cause issues in your career.

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            As a side note, be careful posting this stuff online, could cause issues in your career.

            Yeah....academia is a nasty place for men...deff be careful OP

            [–]LuperFlipino 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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            Give us an update.

            [–]16 Endorsed ContributorTRPsubmitter 8 points9 points  (4 children)

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            We have faith in you OP. Do it. And please update later.

            And everyone else is right: I knew a male student in my HS who got expelled for making drawings in ART class of sword battles and gun battles. Another kid protested this by wearing a black trenchcoat the next day, and he was suspended for 1 week.

            [–]smokeybehr 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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            All this "zero tolerance" bullshit is one reason why the schools are going to hell.

            [–]FugitiveAlpha 4 points5 points  (2 children)

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            Wait, what, they suspended a student for wearing a black trench coat?!?!

            Jesus, shits gotten so bad so quickly..

            [–]16 Endorsed ContributorTRPsubmitter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            He was wicked smart too and cool. Not many HS kids are willing to stand up for each other.

            [–]tallwheel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            I knew a kid in my HS who was suspended for wearing a trench coat too. Apparently it is against the school dress code because weapons can be easily concealed.

            [–]1Modified_Hackware 10 points11 points  (0 children)

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            You have the most important job in the world.

            And a calculating cunt tries to get your ass in jail because she wants to do whatever she likes to anyone else.

            Prosecute to within the maximum extent of the law- and make sure you use her as an example particularly to other girls in the class.

            Speak to your schools press office if it has one. Before the single moms at the school gate decide that you are a rapist and go to the press. You have one irrational bitch in check, make sure the mother doesn't get to character assassinate you as well and go pre-empt any clucking in the staff room about this poor little sweet thing having her career ruined by your misunderstanding.

            [–]Pyrocyde 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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            Do it.

            [–]glockatory 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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            This is the only correct action to take.

            [–]MMonReddit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            LMAO, you have to understand how it came across to us readers opening a thread "Getting ready to black knight a high school girl" then reading that you were a high school teacher. Took a paragraph or two to dispel my suspicions

            [–]EtonMessy 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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            Can we please have an update on this soon?

            [–]long-lostfriend[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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            I will keep you posted.

            FYI, my principal WANTS me to follow through with this.

            [–]EtonMessy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            All the best mate

            [–]Cdm9488 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            As a former teacher, DO IT. You're doing the girl and more importantly, society, a huge disservice if you do not. Those types of attitudes and behaviors do not go away unless they receive the proper punishment.

            [–]dave_is_not_here 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            At the very least it'll feel fantastic.

            [–]Furiouss06 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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            OP, it's been a while. Can you give us an update?

            [–]long-lostfriend[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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            Nothing new to report yet. The girl was suspended for the rest of the week, so the next steps are tomorrow.

            [–]Furiouss06 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Good luck bro. Do what you gotta do because I really hope that kid learns her lesson.

            [–]PM_ME_BOOTYSHOTS 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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            Ianal : delete this post to be safe. It's a great story and I thank you for sharing it, but be safe about this and delete it before it gets tracked to you.

            Srs and Bp are probably already trying

            [–]zenmushroom 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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            I feel like this is more of a mensrights post than TRP, but congrats on your actions, you're totally doing the right thing!

            I taught children for five years, and the whole no father in the picture definitely does a lot of damage to the family. It was always the worst children who had no father. One particular "prize" was an 11 year old boy who went out grabbing other boys privates and making false rape allegations against the kids he didn't like. His mom is a wealthy, single lawyer, so I guess he learned all sorts of neat tricks from her.

            [–]JungleMuffin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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            Yeah, not a fan of the TRP circle jerk that happens around here, but saying that, I absolutely agree that you should teach this punk a lesson.

            Remember to keep this shit in the back of your mind next time someone is pushing your boundaries.

            Glad you've got someone who's got your back on this. Not every person is as fortunate.

            [–]Fundumpsters 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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            "like.. omg.. seriously.. like OMG.. why are you like... like OMG.. like pressing charges!??! What is like..wrong with you???!!?"

            "Equal rights"

            "BUT IMA GURRRRLLLLll!!!!! starts crying

            [–]craylash 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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            She needs to learn now that she can't hide behind her vagina.

            [–]Offensive_Brute 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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            I dealt with so much of this kinda bullshit as a student. Asshole kids shitting all over teachers wasting hours of class time with all sorts of outbursts and shenanigans. The best kids were the kids who just didnt bother to show up. If you aren't gonna learn and work, just go smoke crack in the gutter and let everyone else get that much more face time with the teachers. The first time I ever saw a grown man reduced to tears outside of a funeral home was in a class room. I don't think I have the restraint to be a teacher.

            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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            You know what I love? Even in the face of bullshit and hard times... the people of this sub tell posters to do the right thing. If this were posted to a women dominated sub... everyone would be advocating for her to do whatever makes her feel better. If reporting the wrong doing and doing the right thing here would make her feel bad... this would be deemed victim blaming... because how is the victim responsible for stopping this bad behavior of the horrible person in future?

            Fuck that shit. Crucify this bitch and hope that it ruins her life. People willing to raise children do believe this is okay should be shot. This world would be a better place.

            Thank you for standing up and teaching this cunt a lesson... one that she obviously needs to learn and that she isn't getting at home.

            [–]ravenzephyr1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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            I really don't see how anyone would look at this girls behavior and say "you go girl".

            [–]charlesbukowksi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            justice

            [–]friendlylex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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            Your role as a teacher demands that you do no less.

            Teachers also have a duty to educate students on their civic duties.

            [–]Grumpi83 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            Hopefully she will learn a lesson, doubtful but maybe. Hey even if she doesn't you will have something to post on r/pussypass!

            [–]dr_bloodmoney 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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            If I was a teacher, I would have a video camera recording everything at all times. The End.

            [–]watersign 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            Yes and a highly sensitive microphone too. Can't trust anything that bleeds for a few days and doesnt die

            [–]Ralain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            Do it.

            [–]DreadMe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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            Good, make her learn from her mistakes and maybe she will end up a better human.

            [–]1bradyo2 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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            Good man. Too many people would shirk at pressing charges, but you just need to ask yourself one question - In a reverse situation, would she? You know she would.

            [–]AllIDoIsInsultPeople 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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            If your actions put her in a school where her manipulation and immature actions cannot harm you, then you have a threat to your employment out of the picture.

            And as an additional bonus, the reputation of you pressing charges will serve as an example to other students who might think to challenge you.

            Be totally Machiavellian about this. It's your career and she is a threat to it. Eliminate the threat, and as a side effect you will make it known that threats will not be tolerated.

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            no pussy pass

            [–]Emiel000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            DO IT! Fake allegations have massive consequences for people, these girls really do grow to become those women who get people to lose their jobs or even in jail. No mercy

            [–]wurding 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            i blame the parents

            [–]georgedonnelly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            I hear you. At the same time, this whole bringing of police into schools is fucked up. You work there though, that's your life on the line. Only you can judge what is the appropriate course of action. I wish you the best of luck with it.

            OTOH if you let it slide, you may open yourself up to more of this kind of nonsense. And if you take it all the way, you may get mad respect and probably even fear from the remaining students.

            Tough situation. Seriously, I wish you the best with it.

            [–]W-Z-R 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Do it

            Honestly, she'll probably make a concerted effort to damage your reputation and thus career, if she isn't removed from your life totally.

            [–]the_rippers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Fuck. Yes.

            [–]captshady 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Wow. If I were a teacher, I'd have cameras in my class from here on.

            [–]1johnnight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Do not back down OP. When it's on record, it can save some guy's life in court in 10-20 years.

            [–]slcjosh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            I am 100% for your choice to take legal action. She deserves this. I witnessed a similar incident to this when I was in High School and nothing was done about it. Make sure this girl learns her lesson that she cant put hands on you or anyone with expecting one of two results.

            [–]forbinsdecline 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Follow through with this. School is for learning. It's not fucking daycare for teenagers. The students who really want to become educated deserve better than having students like this suck up all the resources.

            [–]LosCruzados 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Seriously a great decision on your part. No better way to teach her a lesson. There's no telling how much worse she could've gotten if you didn't file charges.

            [–]developermct 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Type everything up in a document very structured and thorough. Make a heading at the top of the page and type "CRIMINAL COMPLAINT". At the end of the document, state that you are claiming these facts as true under penalty of perjury (felony if you lie). Print, sign, notarize it and have the notary create at least two more copies as certified copies. Take them to the county court house. Take one of them into the public recording office. They may demand the original, which is fine because you have two other copies. It may cost $10 or so. Send copies to law enforcement. Since she's a juvenile, you may not want to record it, but w/e. There should be a court hearing and everything. I never rely on others or even police to do anything right.

            [–]Robert_Walker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            I think you should do it.

            You're a teacher, and it's teaching her a lesson. Not in a vindictive way, in a true learning about life way.

            It's teaching your other students - of both sexes - a valuable lesson.

            It's possible (likely? I don't know, but possible) it will make her a better person.

            And it is possible (likely?) it will reduce the chance of some poor innocent bugger (buggers?) winding up in jail in the future.

            That said, as wrong as it is, you should consider the risk it brings onto you.

            And is it unwise to have this post if it's going to court?

            *Edit: Having read more responses, I definitely think it's less risky to pursue it - she'll find a way to accuse you of stuff when there's no witnesses and no video, or false witnesses. Get that risk out of your life, do it.

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Bravo.

            Just be careful what you post online, this post itself could get you in trouble.

            [–]epic_pig 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            Well, you are a teacher. You are paid to teach. You would be a negligent in your duties if you didn't teach this person and others watching that certain actions can have certain consequences...

            [–]TeasingPenguin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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            You're doing her and the rest of the world a favour, long term of course. Short term she will learn from it and she will get over it sooner than she thinks.

            Do it and teach her a harsh lesson.

            [–]markhenry31 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            Please post future updates! great read!

            [–]EricTheRedd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Kudos to your other students for cooperating with you and the principle by narcing on this bitch.

            [–]Verlier 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            Do it, for great justice.

            [–]Ghadis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Good for you.

            [–]snarlbuckle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            This is how MEN should treat cunts like her anyway. Black Knights should be the standard.

            [–]Mikereb 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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            Yup. Fck me!? No, no, no. Fck u.

            [–]Fantastical14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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            Well played. You are doing the right thing.

            I've never equated a situation such as that to TRP. Very intriguing post.

            [–]Agapetus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            How did the mother react to the video?

            [–]TheSurrealDeal -1 points0 points  (2 children)

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            I can't stand girls with a false sense of entitlement. I got in an argument with a girl my age (22) the other night (we were both drinking). And she PUNCHED ME in the face. Now, this argument was entirely civil and not to the point of me calling her horrific names or deeply offensive things. She merely concluded 'I am a girl. He can't hit me. There are no consequences to my punching him'. She was right; I couldn't hit her back. I would likely be kicked out of school and maybe arrested. Fuck that shit. Those girls need to learn.

            [–]ufd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Actions without consequences.

            She will have learned nothing if you do not go ahead with charges.

            As you said, think about where you would be if the incident hadn't been recorded.

            [–]Endorsed ContributorAerobus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            And, you know what? That is exactly what I am going to do.

            I am crying tears of joy.

            Teenage girls who cry and make up stories to try and get themselves out of trouble grow up to be the kind of woman who will make false rape and abuse allegations in order to get back at men who make them angry.

            IT GETS BETTER!

            Sir, you are a good man. We need people like you to stand up to these bitches and put them in their place. I sincerely hope every man reading this post learns something.

            [–]tedcase 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Do it. Not only will it teach this girl a valuable life lesson, it will put out a strong message to other people around her too/ This shit does not fly!