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[–]I_Hate_my_life_b0ss 25 points26 points  (3 children)

Those types of chores are things that I enjoy doing now. On another note, I wouldn't do things that tire you. There is a good tiring of a long successful days work and there is a terrible exhaustion of a day where you truly didn't learn or do anything productive. Either way, inch a step forward. Do things that slight make you feel uncomfortable until it becomes natural. Then you can do more and more.

[–]TempleNameJob[S] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Yeah exactly. I'm the same way. I do enjoy most chores/tasks now. If not just for feeling in control of my own life. Also, I hear so many grown adults bitch and complain nowadays about the most mediocre things. It makes me just all the more grateful for having had instilled in me the mindset of "Tough shit. Get your hands dirty."

As for being tired, I'm 35, and most of the times I don't want to do something IS BECAUSE I'm already tired. Work day is over, I'm tired, but nope... going to the gym. It's 6am and maybe I'll just sleep in and skip breakfast. Nope... get up and feed that beast. So I guess I meant to say "Do things despite being tired" instead of "Do things that make you tired."

[–]thehalf_percent 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I get great satisfaction from this. There is something about getting things done or pushing through "chores" at the end of an already full day. Thanks for this!

[–]rpscrote 0 points1 point  (0 children)

side note, there is no physiological benefit to eating breakfast and in fact there may be benefits to controlled fasting. (assuming caloric parity otherwise). Muscle catabolism doesn't kick into high gear until 48 hours after eating.

[–]Silenuslaughed 21 points22 points  (7 children)

Reason versus impulses. In Chan Buddhism they call it something like "the monkey-mind", much in the same way that we speak of a "monkey on my back". Contrast this with your will, where the will can observe the thoughts put forward by the (seemingly) uncontrollable monkey-mind, giving perspective that you are not only these seemingly uncontrollable thoughts, but rather the totality of the whole process. This is to say, the ability to go against our momentary impulses/desires is a product of cultivating the ability to "take a step back" and examine our thoughts. Now, how does one do this on the fly, as it were? By practicing it when you're not rushed, making it a habit.

All that you are is a function of your habits. If all you do is play video games, masturbate, and make plans, but never accomplish anything that you know, deep down, that you should be doing, then that is all that you are.

[–]winndixie 2 points3 points  (1 child)

This is reinforced by Western studies referring to the "lizard brain".

[–]Silenuslaughed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally! I've also seen it referenced as sentience vs. "sapience"; e.g., a dog is self-aware, in that it can differentiate itself from others, but it is not able (as far as we can measure) to be aware that it is aware of having a self. Sapience is a sort of meta-cognitive awareness that allows us to, within our absolute physical constraints (genetics, laws of physics, etc.), make rational choices of how we want to move forward in life. This is pretty useful when manning up and making something of/for yourself.

[–]redbluepilling 1 point2 points  (1 child)

"You are what you eat" -Gautama Buddha

But seriously, this does tag along. If all you eat are donuts, you become the donut.

[–]paulhockey5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except if you're eating pussy.

[–]yehim 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Not often I save a comment, this is one of the gold deserving comments I'm saving.

[–]Silenuslaughed 3 points4 points  (1 child)

[–]AndrewAtrus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FYI, that phrase has a completely different meaning to those of us involved in GamerGate, referring to a feat of whiteknighting:

It's a shame—social-justice faggots have no comprehension of what "respect" actually means, seeing it as something owed to all rather than earned.

[–]2asd1100 40 points41 points  (5 children)

That's not enough.

Every time I feel that inner little bitch complain and looking for excuses I get up and just out of spite purposefully do that shit.

Never steered me wrong, that inner little bitch is telling you exactly what you need to do with it's complaints. Never let it dicatate your life. You decide when it's time to play and when it's enough and you need to get on with real life.

[–]Ykvar 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Fuck! That one resonated with me. It's so true, every time you look for excuses it's because you know you have to do it and you're just rationalizing and procrastinating.

[–]NoRegretj 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Fuckin male hamster fucking little shit gonna kick that fucker

[–]d1cey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This so this! I find the most successful people I know on a practical level are all able to consistently do things they don't necessarily want to do. They are able to choose the activity that will further themselves in the future the most at the cost of something more enjoyable in the moment. Someone who masters this ability will arguably succeed at any endeavor.

[–]InvictusCor 16 points17 points  (11 children)

Cold showers. It's one of the hardest routines I've had to stick to but starting your day off with an ice cold shower gets you in the right frame of mind and gets your willpower going for the day.

After a 2 minute shower you actually get out feeling 100 times more alive then before you went under. I call it a happiness drug because I can't stop smiling and pumping the air for the next ten minutes. Apparently it releases some endorphin's and shit. Don't know too much about the science of it.

You usually start to wane on day 4 or 5 where you just want to sit under hot water for 10 minutes but if you can push through with it, it's one of the best things(I've found) for your training your willpower. Most other annoyances on a daily basis become a piece of cake compared to a cold shower.

[–]tindermaster1986 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Cold showers are an excellent recovery for working out. I squat 3x weekly, and cold showers have helped my hip soreness more than any stretching, foam rolling, ibuprofen, etc. have done.

Tangentially, if anyone ever read the classic James Bond novels, 007 would always take a cold shower right after a hot one...or more frequently would just take a cold one by itself. If it works for the world's greatest (fictional) agent, get the point ;)

[–]Eivn 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think that hot shower opens your pores while cold shower retracts them. Thats why i always shower with hot water first, soap myself while im feeling the heat and then i wash it down with cold water. I build my tolerance to cold and im cleaner.

[–]Autumnfilet 4 points5 points  (0 children)

FYI regarding pores

A hot shower does help with cleaning your skin but it's not because pores open. The reason why it helps is that hot water initiates a bit of swelling (more blood is pumped in blood vessels of your skin) and also softens dirt that clogs up your pores. Your pores are stationary though and pore size in genereal is genetically determined.

[–]tallwheel 3 points4 points  (1 child)

A cold shower fucking rocks in the summertime. But I would never be able to do it in the winter. I live in too cold a climate, and my place isn't heated well enough. I'd freeze my ass off.

I agree that it releases endorphins, though. It's like eating spicy food.

[–]fabrab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I live in a cold climate too, and it does make cold showers even harder. Sometimes I have to take a minute afterwards to gather myself because the water gave me such a godawful brain freeze. But that's a good thing, because it means I'm training my discipline even harder.

[–]HEADPOCKET 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I'd like you to elaborate on this. I desperately want it not to be true.

[–]fabrab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look into it yourself, there are tons of info on the benefits of cold showers. A good way to start is after your normal shower, turn off the hot water and bask in the cold for 30 seconds or so. You'll feel amazing afterward.

[–]psylord 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've done it and maybe there was a benefit shortly after the shower where I felt more energized and I suppose less depressed. I don't think it lasted the entire day. IRC, I never fully adapted to it, and so I quit doing it because the effort seemed to be greater than the benefit. Plus, I go outside when it's cold anyways, so it's not like I don't get exposed to the cold.

I read some scientific article where they hypothesized that the benefit comes from the fact that cold showers provide "thermal exercise" which is an interesting idea - your body was designed to be exposed to the cold and maybe in modern times we are missing out on that.

[–]cocoguard 0 points1 point  (1 child)

My hot shower is usually my motivation for getting through the things I don't want to do (i.e. push through these sets, earn that shower!, as well as for school/non physical stuff).

Edit: I also have very long hair so if I'm washing it, I have to take longer in the shower anyway and cold water for more than 2 minutes would probably be a lot harder.

[–]1RPinCA 15 points16 points  (1 child)

This is really interesting, because I'm nearly the exact opposite. In high school, I hated working out. I hated lifting. And I would rather stab a screwdriver through my eye than do cardio. My mentality was: why the fuck am I in this dingy weight room doing boring shit? I want to actually do something. This is fucking boring. When I complained to my coach, he told me to keep telling myself I loved it. After more bitching, I finally tried it. Every time I was about to complain about it in my head, I stopped and told my self that I loved lifting. I'm getting stronger and more powerful. Lifting is a great lifelong hobby. I wish I had even more time to lift. Cardio, fuck yeah! More cardio means I can go all day. Wind sprints are better than sex. More laps. I want to do more laps!

And you know what? It worked. It's possible to brainwash yourself into genuinely liking something you don't like, but know is good for you. I've used this technique to get myself to eat fish, which I used to hate. I've used it to ace boring classes with douchebag professors. It works for me. I find it interesting that you and I seem to get similar results from totally opposite approaches. The human mind is a hell of a thing.

[–]tallwheel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Attitude is pretty important. It's amazing how much better you can make a bad mood by just putting things in perspective, chilling out, and trying to stay positive.

[–]operibus_anteirex 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"If you control yourself, you control life. You should not give in to every little problem. Be open, be determined, never play the cripple, but control yourself. Be the master of your pain and problems. Force yourself to be cheerfully faithful. Then you will find strength you did not know you had. Command yourself so that you can master yourself. Do something every day that you do not like to do, and avoid doing something every day that you would gladly have done. This is the secret to every great personality."

[–]simpleshadow 7 points8 points  (1 child)

"It will remain a dream if you hit the snooze again this morning."

Most encouraging post I've read in a while man. Thanks for reminding us all what the grind is for and why fighting through it makes us great.

[–]StattMan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow, really love that quote.

[–]Lithiumthium 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I apply this into books, can work into other activities

Usually it goes like this, I choose a subject that I like, a subject that I never read about and something that I don't like, but it has its share of wisdom, and here is the catch, the subject that I never read about has a chance to either suck or be nice, if it sucks chances are that it sucks so much that the book I don't like turns out to be better than the random one.

You can apply to gym too, I hate leg work, but I hate triceps more, so I do triceps first then I do leg work and think to myself "at least I am free from triceps", that way you can keep an open-mind to things and not get mentally tired.

[–]Hitlers_Boss 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I would venture to say that you should only do what YOU want to do. But not in the sense of doing actions, but of completing only goals that YOU want to complete. You WANT good hygiene so you shower, shave, brush and floss. You WANT a good career so you study as much as you need to, take internships, and take opportunities as they come. When there is an action that you dont feel like doing, think about what this action is working towards. Do you genuinely want to accomplish this goal? As a counter example, if there is a broken bottle on the ground in the street, do you clean it up or just leave it there? For most of us, we're not in some adopt a highway program so there is no end goal achieved by cleaning it up. So we dont clean up the broken glass.

If you think about every action as related to (or not related to) a goal, it becomes easier to decide on what to do. Hopefully this way you're not disparaging yourself to do chores or whatnot and instead appreciate the long term benefits that working out, or following a routine can give you.

[–]redbluepilling -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sometimes you have obligations to other people or tasks to complete that are seemingly distant from your larger goals, but...they're all connected. If it has to be done, it must be done to continue onward. It's all part of the larger picture.

Regarding your bottle, if you can, do shit to help others if it doesn't cause you great expense, even if it's unrelated to your goals. Thinking outward, providing/giving, and engaging the outside and people are valuable qualities. You begin to abandon the wanting and taking value from others, neediness, and instead are an expansive presence.

[–]1rp_aware 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The irony is that TRP is on Reddit and Reddit is my single worst procrastination sinkhole. Literally, as I write this, I am on Reddit, on TRP, at work, when I could be padding my timesheet with much more productive pursuits.

Okay getting off now.

[–]17 Endorsed ContributorHumanSockPuppet 4 points5 points  (1 child)

The first thing a god masters is itself.

[–]redbluepilling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An all powerful god, tasked with a paradox, created a stone so heavy that even he could not hoist it. There, he destroyed the planet it rested upon, and left the stone in its stead.

[–]Workchoices 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have cold showers, but I've started to enjoy that now so it might be time to pick something else.

[–]TheRightPhuture 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"It builds character"

My dad hits me with these three words anytime I complain. Shit use to really piss me off when I was 16 or so. Being 20 now, I praise those 3 words.

I now use it on my gf when she starts to complain and it pretty much shuts her up. Quite amusing actually

[–]ContinentalRP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read your title and got on did my bodyworkout routine, that I really should've done before I started drinking. Thanks.

[–]AEther_Flux 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My dad never had the chance to do this. My mother and half-sister were far too expensive for him so he had to work constantly. Instilling this into my life has been very challenging, but I'm pushing through, little by little.

[–]thebigspooner 1 point2 points  (1 child)

There are so many gems in here.

This is to say, the ability to go against our momentary impulses/desires is a product of cultivating the ability to "take a step back" and examine our thoughts. Now, how does one do this on the fly, as it were? By practicing it when you're not rushed, making it a habit.

All that you are is a function of your habits. If all you do is play video games, masturbate, and make plans, but never accomplish anything that you know, deep down, that you should be doing, then that is all that you are.



"It will remain a dream if you hit the snooze again this morning."

Most encouraging post I've read in a while man. Thanks for reminding us all what the grind is for and why fighting through it makes us great.


... You are your thoughts.

[–]AndrewAtrus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are your actions.

I'm sure plenty of women think they're loyal. Lots of people think they're writers.

[–]sanelity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished by how much he'd learned in seven years.”

Mark Twain

[–]infapwetrust 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Once a day?? What about all my life

[–]Half_Natty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And on that note, I'm getting off of TRP to go and get things done! Thanks for the post!

[–]Noculum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This teaches discipline and self control.

Your father was a good man. A lot like mine. I grew up on a farm and holy shit did I have a lot of chores. Letting the chooks and ducks out, grabbing the eggs, refilling water buckets, refilling food buckets, weeding the chook pen, filling the pen with straw, medicating sick chooks, moving rocks around, carrying hay across the farm, setting up sprinklers so the animals don't cook, feeding sheep, feeding alpacas, shearing sheep... I could go on for days and days. Usually added up to a good 2 hours work everyday, on top of school and homework.

I'm glad my parents taught me discipline, I feel it has made me a good/hard worker.

[–]dnadz74 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My dad did the same thing - yard work and manual labor were common occupations for my brother and me growing up. He called it "increasing your feeling of self-worth." I've never really admitted it to him and probably won't out of spite, but now that I'm 40 years old and I consistently see the fruits of my own labors, I absolutely and completely understand what he meant.

[–]s0und0fyell0w 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like this post because as I kid I blew off a lot of my dad would try to teach me. part of it was because I was kid (especially growing up in the middle class I was fairly spoiled) and part of it was because my parents were divorced so I was mainly under the care of my mother, who tried her best to get us to hate my dad. as a result I grew up being more feminine than many boys. also I should note my dad was quite a narcissistic asshole and I still stand by the statement today. but nevertheless if I had listened to more of his advice I would have developed a more masculine mindset from an earlier age. he used to say "boys need their father", which I always was just his way of trying to make us (my brother and me) look down on our mother similar to how she did to him. but it has become apparent to me that kids definitely do need a strong male figure to aid in their development. and part of that is simply because you need someone to push you outside your comfort zone and realize that life is tough so you might as well get used to it as soon as you can.

[–]Bortasz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think this would be interesting video to watch:

[–]AndrewAtrus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thoroughly agree. It also reminds me of the Catholic practice of "moritification". From the Catholic Encyclopedia:

Temptations to sin [the soul] overcomes by inducing the will to accept hardships, however grace, rather than yield to the temptations. To this extent, mortification is obligatory on all, but those who wish to be more thorough in the service of Christ, carry it further, and strive with its aid to subdue, so far as is possible in this life, that "rebellion" of the flesh against the spirit which is the internal incentive to sin. What is needed to achieve this victory is that the passions and sensual concupiscences, which when freely indulged exercise so pernicious an influence on human conduct, should be trained by judicious repression to subordinate and conform their desires to the rule of reason and in faith, as discerned by the mind. But for this training to be effectual it is not sufficient to restrain these desires of the flesh only when their demands are unlawful. They represent a twist in the nature, and must be treated as one treats a twisted wire when endeavouring to straighten it, namely, by twisting it the opposite way. Thus in the various departments of ascetic observance, earnest Catholics are constantly found denying themselves even in matters which in themselves are confessedly lawful.

Mortification, viewed thus as a means of curing bad habits and implanting good ones, has its recognized place in the methods even of those who are engaged in pursuing purely natural [i.e., not supernatural] ends.

Note that this deals with asceticism, which isn't exactly the point of the OP, but has some parallels.

What it slays is the disease of the soul, and by slaying this it restores and invigorates the soul's true life.

(For what it's worth, I'm an atheist.)