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    [–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 95 points96 points  (6 children)

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    I don't think its a purity thing in this case. I see this more as a value thing. They are trying to up their value by saying how much the guy wants to please her. When she talks about blowing dudes she is talking about how much she wants to please him and that increases his value instead of hers.

    [–]RaiseOnce 36 points37 points  (4 children)

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    I think it's both.

    [–]WAFC 9 points10 points  (3 children)

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    I'd agree if they weren't already describing (presumably casual) sex acts in detail.

    [–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 6 points7 points  (2 children)

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    yeah that was my point. If they are talking about how many guys they have sex with it isn't about the purity thing.

    [–]5 Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 8 points9 points  (1 child)

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    Most girls are playing a mental tug-of-war in this area. On the one hand, you have our feminism-tainted society saying that they can go out, ride the carousel, have fun, live life, etc, and anyone who thinks less of them for taking too many cocks is a judgmental asshole.

    Also, because they have a preselection bias, they assume (as solipsists) that boys will think the same way: if they know that tons of other boys like her, they'll think she's higher value and be more into her.

    On the other hand, they instinctively know that if they take too many cocks, high-value males will say "well she's all used up, I'm gonna pass her up and find a virgin with a tighter snatch" - and thus consider them less worthy of their valuable commitment.

    Remember, evolution tells women that their ultimate endgame is to find 1) someone with solid alpha genes so that they'll have genetically pure children, and 2) a good ability to provide such that they're set resource-wise while they're incapacitated during their pregnancy. So if a guy with great genes and a solid ability to provide passes her over for someone who's lived a less cock-filled life, that's bad. That puts her behind.

    That's why women are inclined to put up a purity shield. They don't want the alphas to think they're all used up already.

    So, there's a push-and-pull going on here. On the one hand they're thinking "I'm living life and having fun! Feminism! Also, I want everyone to know how much boys like me" on the other hand they're thinking deep down "but I don't want anyone thinking I'm TOO much of a whore because then I'm a depreciated asset."

    [–]Insilo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    I'm living life and having fun! Feminism!

    After reading this something popped up in my mind . Does all the equality shit in feminism is just all about having sex with multiple partners and not being judged ?

    [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 13 points14 points  (5 children)

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    its their mating strategy and it's a good one because suckers fall for it every day

    i'm not mad at it, just a funny observation

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

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    I have inquiry, do you like to listen to their sex stories and such?

    I don't like it, when ever a plate starts a convo about such subjects I stop her, it's a turn off for me

    [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 32 points33 points  (1 child)

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    1.i'm a nasty nigga so yes

    2.listening to all the depraved and disgusting things women do keeps my edge, reminds me what i'm up against

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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    Fair enough, keep been awesome.

    [–]RedPillScare 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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    I don't get the impression that these are plates. If they're acquaintances, it definitely shouldn't trouble the OP.

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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    Yeah you're right I was under the impression that he was talking about his plates.

    My bad

    [–]5 Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 117 points118 points  (15 children)

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    Interesting observation. I hadn't noticed this before.

    It always irritates me when women start bragging publicly about their sexual accomplishments. It's one of the first things they all have to do on dates - she's got to tell me about all the boys who are into her. Most of the time it's just so that I know that she's a special flower (being solipsists, women do not realize that preselection doesn't work on men). Of course, it could also be that she's trying to present a DHV so she can have a superior bargaining position over me.

    I guess it could also be a shit test - if you tolerate the fact that she's flaunting her sexual experiences in your face, you're letting her dominate a bit, which makes you all that much more beta. But on the other hand, if you complain, you sound insecure, which has the same effect.

    This could be a great way to pass that shit test when it comes up.

    "I got laid last night. It was sooo great. Best sex I've had in all long time. He really made my toes curl!"

    "Cool. Did you suck his dick?"

    "Wh... what?"

    "Did. You suck. His dick."

    "That's none of your business! I'm not telling you that, that's private!"

    "Exactly."

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      [–]disso 23 points24 points  (1 child)

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      I think you nailed it. Women demonstrating they have options and social value because that is what they desire from men. Men demonstrating they are submissive(easy to get along with) and "pure"(trying to hide their sexual side) because that's what they are desiring from women.

      [–]Mr-Ultimate 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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      Like the quote that says if you want to see what scares your enemies see what they threaten you with.

      [–]17 Endorsed ContributorWhisper 64 points65 points  (4 children)

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      I'm not telling you that, that's private!

      == "yes".

      Because if she hadn't, she'd say "no".

      I guess it could also be a shit test - if you tolerate the fact that she's flaunting her sexual experiences in your face, you're letting her dominate a bit, which makes you all that much more beta.

      Tell her that "Reciting your resume will only get you so far. We'll wait and see how you do at the interview." That puts her in her place, because it sets you up as the one evaluating her, and reminds her that those sexual skills are there to serve you.

      [–]riskrowe 4 points5 points  (3 children)

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      if she hadn't, she'd say "no"

      And that would be a big -1. Hopefully she's not that foolish.

      [–]5 Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 30 points31 points  (2 children)

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      Not if you keep prying.

      "Did you do anal? Did he eat you out? Did he suck your titties? Where did he lick you?"

      Keep probing deeper and deeper (so to speak) until she gets uncomfortable and tells you to cut it out, because "my sex life is none of your business." To which you respond, "exactly."

      Basically, you prey on the fact that she wants to retain at least some sort of purity - she doesn't want to look like too much of a filthy whore.

      [–]riskrowe 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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      Yeah I understood that part, it's a great strategy. If she says "Yes" she looks like a slut, if she says "No" she looks like a prude, and if she says "That's none of your business" then you can shut her up and overcome the shit-test.

      But I think that even if she hadn't she still wouldn't say "no", for risk of sounding like she's a lazy or boring lover.

      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

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      Excellent retort. I used something similar conversing with a girl at the bar. Mid conversation she asks me "so how many girlfriends have you had". I told her "that's like me asking how many dick's you've sucked". Face was pricless.

      [–]DickTheLionheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      That's golden.

      [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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      exactly is not needed.

      just smirk.

      she knows...we all know

      [–]ThePragmatist42 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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      Where exactly do you meet these women that talk about all of their sexual conquests? This seems like an easy thing to spot a mile away before you even get into a real conversation with her.

      I can't think of a single time I've met a woman that bragged about her sexual accomplishments. It could be a regional thing though. Typically they try to make you think they never put out and don't want sex.

      It seems you can really play with her mind if she starts talking about her sexual accomplishments and it'll be a easy trip to her apartment.

      [–]Seafor_c4 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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      I find because I'm a sexual person anyway and I'm not judgemental of a girls past (I love sluts) they tend to open up about it a bit more. Keeping the conversation sexual works in everyone's favor because it not only gets me going it gets her going too.

      [–]Kimjungillestt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      I would reply with, "oh you did? Well let's see if I can make the sex even better."

      [–]AllYouCanEatRedPills 19 points20 points  (1 child)

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      Women have an entirely different concept of truth from men.

      To females, the truth is whatever it needs to be at the time.

      When she's trying to get the guy to sleep with her the truth is I'm a slut and I want you.

      When she's talking to her girlfriends afterwards, the truth is he loves me and he bought me things.

      When she's with her male friends or orbiters, the truth is, I would never act like that kind of girl.

      [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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      yuuuuuuuuppppp

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        [–][deleted] 78 points79 points  (16 children)

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        The most bluepill thing I ever said to a chick:

        I don't really like blowjobs because it feels disrespectful to women.

        Makes me cringe thinking about that, good thing I was only 15 at the time, but still.

        [–]16 Endorsed Contributornicethingyoucanthave 83 points84 points  (7 children)

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        I don't really like blowjobs because it feels disrespectful to women.

        Thing is, I imagine whatever woman you said that to nodding in agreement. After all, you're stating your desire to treat her with respect. Respect is important to her, so her forebrain would readily agree that what you've said is a good thing.

        Then, I imagine another guy saying, "I really like blowjobs precisely because it feels disrespectful - makes the girl feel naughty - gets her down on her knees and lets her know she's a dirty girl." And the same woman that nodded agreement to your statement is suddenly turned on. Her hindbrain is going, "holy shit that's hot!"

        That is redpill/bluepill in its clearest contrast. One male is communicating to the rational side of a woman and obtaining agreement. The other male is communicating to the reproductive instinct and obtaining attraction.

        How much better would you life have been had someone explained that to you at 15? But no, you live in the matrix where you were told that we humans are entirely rational creatures.

        Thing is, nothing about this suggests that you shouldn't actually respect women. There's a base-level of respect that every person deserves, and there's a certain amount of deference that women should get as part of the social contract of civilization, and then there's respect that's earned. That's basic politeness, but none of it makes you attractive to the opposite sex.

        Too bad our culture can't just be honest about that.

        [–]vendetta_vera 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        very well said!

        [–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (5 children)

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        I highly doubt you could get a random girl you're chatting up turned on by telling her "I like blowjobs because they're disrespectful."

        [–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 15 points16 points  (2 children)

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        I disagree. I knew a guy who would chat up girls he was interested and would tell her he loves the taste of pussy. He would say this less than 3 minutes in and the girls always stayed for more. I never understood why they wouldn't just tell him to go fuck himself because I was always under the impression that women were better than that. I was way wrong.

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          [–]Evers89 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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          You probably could. If she was interested in you and you played it off with a smirk. If your frame was solid.

          I've seen and said some really bold shit and gotten away with it with a light punch on the arm - Aka tingles.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorVZPurp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          Light punch on the arm, followed by a text message later in the night for sex. The tingles started and didn't go away, need to take care of that.

          Blue pill indoctrinated men see the interaction and think her calling you "rude" and hitting you on the arm is a sign of rejection. Little do they know.

          [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (2 children)

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          Mistakes are made, it's all about whether or not you learned a lesson.

          edit: lesson learned does not apply to females, because tingles

          [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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          I did, and like most people here, I wished I learned it sooner.

          [–]Darth_Pete -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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          "Because tingles" - gave random bust of laughter

          [–]Evers89 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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          You won the blue pill comment of the week! Aha I've said some dumb shit in my time no worries.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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          But the disrespect is the whole point!

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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          I wouldn't say that... it's more about not giving a fuck what people think.

          [–]derpconfused 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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          I heard of someone who refused to have sex in a variety of positions (most notably doggystyle) because he thought they were disrespectful to women. Ironically, the girl he refused to have doggystyle sex with felt pretty disrespected by his actions.

          [–]Patrick5555 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          I have seen this as a reddit comment multiple times and not as joke

          [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

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          yuuuuuuuuup

          definition of blue pill is a man who listens to what a woman says instead of what she does

          [–]FugitiveAlpha 7 points8 points  (2 children)

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          Women can be as kinky as men are...

          The craziest shit I've ever heard of in the way of kinks came from women telling me about their desires.

          [–]RedPillScare 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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          That's the fact, jack! Holy crap, the things I've heard from my exes.

          Each one different, but equally high on the kink/WTF scale.

          [–]1johnnight 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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          Men are shocked only because they have been told girls are immaculate snowflakes. It's the difference between the perceived and reality that is shocking.

          [–]CUNTBERT_RAPINGTON 7 points8 points  (4 children)

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          Eh, I'm not 100% convinced of this one, I've heard plenty of girls tell me about the dick they've sucked. Either I'm hanging out with the wrong crowd or it varies depending on location.

          [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

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          it's a rarity for me.

          it only happens with the girls I'm extremely close to and only when they're sloppy drunk

          [–]CUNTBERT_RAPINGTON 8 points9 points  (1 child)

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          In that case scratch everything I said, because they were all drunk too. Keep on keeping me grounded.

          [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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          i deal with blue pillers alot since they stalk me and tag me and everything--seriously, they're obsessed with me and a couple other guys and we don't know any of their names---so i have to ask these questions

          [–]Gyrolin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          I'm going to second this. I wouldn't say I've heard "plenty of girls" telling me about it, but some of the ones that I know that divulge their sexscapades have no problem mentioning that they blew some guy. I'm not going to say its incredibly common, but I can list four chicks off the top of my head. (ahue)

          Edit: Yeah they might have all been tipsy, but not usually drunk.

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            [–]skimdit 22 points23 points  (0 children)

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            So have you put your newly learned skills to good use yet?

            [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            oh in a group that is openly accepting women are fearless and courageous because their biggest fear, group expulsion, is quelled.

            [–]trpmdsrfggts 20 points21 points  (1 child)

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            This reminds me of a funny story - there's a chick in my workplace that constantly talks about how attractive guys have found her to be, how they've been romantic to her, how hot her one night stand was etc etc etc. All of the other females treat her with some form of respect because of that (she's also legitimatelly hot), to them she's a hero - she's living their dream (or so she says)

            So one day she's talking about how some guy did something ridiculous to prove his love for her to some of her friends. She senses that she sounds like she's simply bragging (we all know that a girl would never do that), instead of just telling them an interesting story and decides to get some confirmation. I'm the only dude around so she asks me - Hey, trpmdsrfggts, why do you think this guy did that? Do you think I'm as hot as he says (or something like that, I don't really remember) or is he a weirdo (which was a very interesting binary choice but whatever)?

            All of the other chicks start staring at me, I can feel the tension in the air, this is the time - "I don't know how attractive your qualities are - do you swallow come? It's also attractive if you take it up the ass, maybe he knew that and wanted some?" I don't really think they managed to hear the second sentance because of their theatrical groans but damn did it feel good to see her image deflate so quickly.

            [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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            women know

            they say it when she's not there

            [–]updock 3 points4 points  (3 children)

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            This is not true in my experience. My two closest female friends have mentioned doing exactly that multiple times to me.

            [–]jorgander 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            But your experiences say little about what's true in general. Coincidentally, 1 out of 15-20 women that have talked to me about their sexcapades volunteered that they gave head.

            [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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            1.how slutty are your friends

            2.how long have you known them

            3.how sober are they

            [–]updock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            1) double digits for both

            2) ~5 years each

            3) one of each

            [–]MockingDead 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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            The important message is: Every woman edits and justifies (hamsters) her interactions with men. Maybe his girls don't like to discuss dick sucking, maybe yours do but won't discuss anal. That's immaterial. What's important it: The hamster is an all powerful force in the heads of all women and most men.

            [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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            i wish posts like this weren't necessary

            i try holding this place to a higher standard but good lord some of you have the cognizance of a 13 year old beiber fan

            [–]MockingDead 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            I know, right? Like, it seems obvious your message, but we all have the ass-burgers, apparently.

            And god help you if you spell something wrong.

            [–]SuperNinKenDo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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            Weird. I don't ever really listen to women talk about that shit, so I guess I'd never noticed. I do know that once a girl I work with claimed to not suck dick, but when she did, one of the other chicks just burst out laughing and said "Of course you do, what a stupid thing to say!" and just kept bellowing with laughter.

            [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            women always know

            [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (10 children)

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            A lot of times the BJ is the best part too....

            If you get some ball licking, stroking, good tongue action, post ejaculation sucks that feel so intense I have to push her head away, etc. It's a good time...

            [–]Dragontitz 17 points18 points  (3 children)

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            thanks for making me hard james.

            [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (2 children)

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            Oh dude... You're just lucky I wasn't discussing my wife's force fetish...

            She starts off acting like an innocent catholic school girl virgin, and by the end of the session, after I've "convinced her she wants it", she's a gushing little sexpot who's riding me like there's no tomorrow.

            [–]Dark triad expert: - http://illimitablemen.com/ - [3 Points]IllimitableMan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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            she's a gushing little sexpot

            gushing

            sexpot

            LMFAO!!! Magic.

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            offtopic: mandatory star wars joke

            ontopic: nice

            [–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

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            Meh, I don't like receiving oral.

            [–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (1 child)

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            To each their own... I like a lot of variety, but finishing in a girl's mouth is phenomenal to me.

            [–]MarshallRavenHawk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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            I totally agree. Blowing in a girls mouth is absolutely amazing and sexy to me. Call me weird, what evs. I go down on girls as well and if they orgasm and happen to squirt in my mouth then I love it just as equally as me finishing in their mouth. It's not as much a degradation thing with me as it is a naughty thing I guess. Idk. Hard to explain why I like it. I guess I have no clue...

            [–]SigmaMu 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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            Same. In my experience only the 20+ sluts have had enough practice to make it enjoyable.

            [–]RedPillScare 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Sluts have their uses. Just not marriage. Or LTR.

            [–]Alphadestrious -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

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            I LOLd at this thread.

            [–]derpconfused 8 points9 points  (4 children)

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            You know, I've never heard a guy talk about going down on a girl either. Maybe it's just a touchy topic for some reason--people don't want to admit that they were serving someone else.

            [–]RedPillScare 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Best three - way is one on my cock and one on my face.

            [–]FoxTrot1337 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            When Im eating a girl it out its serving me. I fucking love the taste. Gets me hard as a fucking rock. lmao

            [–]sushisection 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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            i've never heard a guy shy about this topic unless he's bad at it

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              [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              this is good stuff

              [–]nedflanders1200 10 points11 points  (14 children)

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              You know what, I am going to disagree with this statement. I like TRP, wish I was man enough to apply it more, but all my female friends, constantly talk about blowjobs. How they are good at it, how buddy hadn't washed his cock, how they tried to deepthroat it and ended up puking, road head stories...I have heard them all from my chick friends.
              And they have frequently told me how they give the best blowjobs. the right look, a cocked eyebrow, and an 'oh really' and frequently they have been giving me head to prove it.
              I'm not trying to brag, I'm clueless with women, but have a lot of female friends, they talk about giving blowjobs, and sometimes, give me blowjobs, just for the fun of it...

              [–]rj88631 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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              I think it depends on the mindset. In high school girls would talk about blowjobs and act like its just head, it doesn't count, I am not a slut.

              At college, it switched. It was harder to pretend that they were getting passed around the frat house so it became "I didnt suck his dick, I am not a slut."

              [–]DopeSmokingPope 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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              I just love how humble you pretend to be in your second sentence. Followed up by claiming that your questioning glances are starter pistols for the blowjob Olympics amongst your group of concubines.

              [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

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              again, how slutty are your friends

              [–]nedflanders1200 5 points6 points  (3 children)

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              umm, too slutty to ever date, not too slutty to let suck my dick?

              [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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              when you posted your response did you ever stop and think to yourself

              "maybe my results are different because i kick it with sluts?"

              or were you in such a rush to voice contrarion opinion that it just happened to slip your mind

              [–]nedflanders1200 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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              lol, this thread actually caused me to unsubscribe from this subreddit. This is one of the biggest circlejerks on Reddit, but, It's so obvious now, none of you have ever had real female friends! You know, the kind you openly and honestly communicate with? The thing about close friends, is sometimes, when you're single, and really tight, you fuck each other, and fool around.

              But 90 % of the articles on here now, are just straight up women bashing, and even more of the comments devolve into that.

              So enjoy Red Pillers, I will remember the stuff here I learned about hypergamy, and will try to never be a doormat or get played, but definitely won't go through life thinking every one in a gender can be painted with the same brush, and that women who like to fuck=slut, and men who score a lot=alpha dogs:) peace...

              [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

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              ok

              [–]DickTheLionheart -1 points0 points  (6 children)

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              I once had a discussion (more like her monologue) with a girl who was tallying up all the dicks she'd sucked and how many owners of those dicks were now married. It was in the 30's.

              I didn't start the discussion, didn't encourage it, and didn't really care much. But yes, some women love sucking dick and enjoy talking about it.

              [–]ArchangelleFuckOff 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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              37?

              [–]DickTheLionheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              Try not to suck any dick in the parking lot!

              [–]RG68 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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              You can remember conversations you had in the 30s? Amazing!

              [–]DickTheLionheart 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              I see what you did there, well played.

              [–]strimpboi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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              Once they do this kind of bullshit, I just say "Neat" and change the subject. I think I learned that from a red piller here, works very well.

              [–]DickTheLionheart 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              Ha, this wasn't a girl I was pursuing at all, this was like normal "friendly" conversation for her or whatever. She was a classmate who I was casually friends with, though I did fuck her hotter friend.

              [–]RG68 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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              Had a good old chortle at this, very true.

              [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              tis what i'm here for

              information and laughter

              [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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              You need to start specifically asking about how much head they gave.

              That's your mission bro.

              [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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              why would i ask?

              unless i'm trying to call a girl out and publicly embarrass her, i let her omit what she wants to omit, it means she's trying to impress me still

              [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              Shits and giggles?

              You don't have to be loud about it, but it could be an amusing game. Keep the question on the down low maybe?

              You sucked his dick right?

              I'm thinking something to pass the time like the meow game on Super Troopers.

              [–]troubadour1492 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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              The funny thing is my wife exaggerates how much dick she sucks in her stories. I overheard her telling some of her female coworkers all about how she went down on me for like 30 minutes and swallowed my delicious spoo, and how much she loves my delicious spoo and on and on.

              Uhhhhh, not so much. She sucks dick with no enthusiasm at all, and she gives really terrible head. She does swallow though, and she even does ass to mouth.

              [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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              this is a weird phenomenon

              if you don't mind do tell us more. if it's too personal feel free to ignore me

              [–]troubadour1492 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              It really is a weird phenomenon. I'm not sure what I can add to the observations I already made. I'll answer specific questions to the best of my ability.

              [–]Sarthax 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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              Trade Secrets.

              [–]1BadgerBurger 1 point2 points  (3 children)

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              Such a fantastic observation.

              The only time I've ever heard a woman mention sucking a dick is when the man was very high-value (ie, athlete or celebrity).

              I've also heard one woman go out of her way to clarify that she did hook up with, but did not suck the dick of, a professional hockey player.

              [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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              story time

              [–]1BadgerBurger 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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              Glad to.

              This girl's pretty hot. She works in a position where she has access to hockey players (ie, works at the venue, but not with the team). She frequently talks about how often she's been hit on by other team members. She only admits to hooking up with one that I know of. Made him seem like the pursuer.

              She does admit that she went back to that guy's place and hooked up with him. A girlfriend pressed her on what she did. "Did you suck his dick?" was asked. Not only did she say no, but she insulted his size... nevermind that this guy was fucking her all night.

              Funny thing -- next morning when she woke up? He wasn't there. She tried texting him to no response. So here she is sitting in this guy's bed, at this guy's place, and he's not around. She decides to leave and puts on her clothes. Walks out of the bedroom, and sees someone on the couch.

              "No! Don't leave! [Player name] will be home soon!"

              It was the player's dad.

              She left.

              [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              hahahahahaha

              i love this place

              [–]ScannerSloppy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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              IDK the front page of /r/sex has dozens of women talking about deepthroating and facefucking in the comments today

              [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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              in an online world where there's 0 chance of social expulsion, women's greatest fear

              [–]narcissus88 0 points1 point  (3 children)

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              I'm bi (or gay, if you like) and I love sucking dick. But it's sometimes embarrassing to talk about it in public even to friends. "Cocksucker" is an insult among men for a reason and I'm basically admitting I'm another guy's bitch (which is part of the erotic charge you get from sucking dick).

              On the other hand, that's for men, and it's not clear why women should be embarrassed to admit to this act, as long as they talk about sex openly in other ways. Actually in their case it's pathological if it's driven by the same reasons I'm reluctant to talk about it. A woman shouldn't feel ashamed for feeling submissive or wanting to please, but apparently these women are; that's a bad sign.

              [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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              because openly admitting submission to a man nowadays is forbidden even though women beg me to make them submit, both subtly and blatantly

              [–]narcissus88 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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              I know, that's what I'm saying, but I think it's fucked up that women should feel the same way I do ...they're women, they should be OK with doing that. It's a bad sign.

              [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              its why this subreddit exists

              [–]christiefrontdrive 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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              Interesting thread, I never realized that but it's true. Women never mention the fact they sucked a dick in their stories. Reminds me of the way they also never mention someone else is paying the bills.

              [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              i have a girl at work who says she's independent and doesnt need help

              but i have to carry her ice and other heavy stuff and her mom takes care of her kid and her husband pays her rent

              [–]4J5533T6SZ9 -1 points0 points  (13 children)

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              This post doesn't sound self-righteous at all.

              [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 2 points3 points  (6 children)

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              who said i wasn't self righteous

              [–]4J5533T6SZ9 -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

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              Lyk ermahgerd it almost sounds like you're simultaneously describing things almost every human is susceptible to as well as implying you're completely immune to them.

              I mean, if you're so secure in yourself that you don't need any external approval, more power to you man! But you don't need to put other people down and be so hoighty-toighty about it. Stuff like this makes it hard to take this subreddit seriously.

              [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

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              if you're a softie than yeah, i guess posts like this could hurt your feelings

              for everyone else its just a silly observation because we often take ourselves too seriously

              [–]4J5533T6SZ9 1 point2 points  (3 children)

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              It's not that it hurts my feelings. It is just another demonstration of how needlessly shitty people can be to each other. I don't mean to single you out, because this is one incident in a long procession of them. It makes me sad to think about how for so many, this is what relations with fifty percent of the world boil down to. The total lack of empathy really gets to me. Call me a softy; by today's standards I am one, and that's okay.

              Also I feel you are being disingenuous by implying you weren't being serious, but I have nothing to go on except my gut. Furthermore, while you may not have been serious, I can't help but think most guys who read your post took every word seriously. Your sarcasm would blend in too perfectly with how others in this subreddit actually refer to women.

              [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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              oh this is a serious topic

              seriously hilarious

              women not talking about sucking dick really isn't a big deal, it's just funny. where this "lack of empathy" came from is beyond me. i think you got some issues and you're taking it out here

              [–]4J5533T6SZ9 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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              I must have failed to properly communicate; I'm not talking about your stand on women including the performance of fellatio in their personal stories. The issue I brought up is the language you used to describe women, because it did seem serious, and even if it wasn't, you can't pretend like everyone was in on the "joke". My point was that even if it's not true for you, using & taking that sort of language seriously is a negative social influence.

              I appreciate you for the last point you made, because I'm sure there is some truth to it. I recently experienced some intense personal development and it's changed some perspectives for me. It just so happens that reddit provides a forum for expressing ideas and having conversations about things I otherwise wouldn't talk about.

              [–]TheeRyanGrey[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              what language specifically

              [–]RedPillScare -1 points0 points  (5 children)

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              You're right. It didn't.

              [–]4J5533T6SZ9 1 point2 points  (4 children)

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              "I have quite a few male friends because of my profession, my location, and my love for having men constantly around me for flirting and value boosting. I've found that if I rotate them in small bursts and never hang out with one of them twice the same week, I never get irritated or bothered by their childish nature.

              Because of their compulsion to be validated and verified, and because they know I'll openly judge and criticize them--fairly but bluntly---they tell me of all their sexual conquests and mishaps.

              The one unavoidable, defining factor: They Never Eat Pussy In Their Stories.

              They'll tell me about the seduction, the feelings they felt, the way their toes curled, the sweating, biting, spanking, scratching, where they fucked, even how long, but they'll never, ever tell me how they ate dat snatch.

              I try and tell women that all of men's stories are edited in their head and this is the perfect example. They'll tell you about how a woman went down on them for 30 minutes, or how she pushed his magic button, but they'll never tell you how much carpet they munched to get it."

              It's fucking hilarious to imagine the reaction of this subreddit if a woman posted that somewhere.

              [–]RedPillScare 0 points1 point  (3 children)

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              In my experience, and acknowledging that anecdote is not the singular form of evidence, men are ready and willing to proclaim their enthusiasm and prowess in pleasing a woman, provided discussing sex is acceptable in that context.

              In other words, if they're willing to talk about sex at all, they'll discuss going down on their girl.

              [–]4J5533T6SZ9 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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              So you're saying men are more open about sex in a world where women are often shamed and judged for expressing sexuality, especially when it's not "vanilla"?

              Did I get that right?

              [–]RedPillScare 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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              I think you understand my point, and your restatement smacks of a windup just before the great Gotcha!

              Make your case on its own merits.

              [–]4J5533T6SZ9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              To tell you the truth I completely don't understand why you responded the way you did to my comment where I copied the original post and changed stuff around. What you commented on was in no way relevant to my point.