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[–]heist_of_saint_graft 108 points109 points  (41 children)

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A post-Wall woman I know has gained a bunch of weight over the last 2 years. She is still getting sex all the time but can't figure out why nobody is sticking around. I told her the game is very tough and being in her 30s she should make a serious effort to get back in shape.

She told me she shouldn't have to exercise to find a man who really loves her. Also, HOW DARE I bring that up to her. (As a man you'll notice the thrust of most shaming tactics sent our way is simply, "How dare you".)

The same woman is always going on about "hot guys" and how fit this guy or that guy was. In no way can she make the connection that those standards (or any standards) should be applied to her.

Women lack the self-reflection we take for granted in other men.

[–]monsieurhire2 79 points80 points  (20 children)

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Ah, so true. I went with a fatty once, just to see if there would be any difference in personality. Of course she felt entitled to all the thin or fit men. Me: "What about that Jabba the Hutt looking guy over there? I heard he's a reaaaallllly sweet guy with a greeeeaat personality, hmmmm???" Her: "Ewwwww, gross!" It was also interesting to see how excited she got when I bought her some chocolate. I've never seen anyone get that exciting over chocolate.

[–]bonekeeper 41 points42 points  (7 children)

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I've never seen anyone get that exciting over chocolate.

You owe me a new keyboard! LOL

[–]monsieurhire2 9 points10 points  (5 children)

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Sorry about that! I thought it theres things were cliches, but she was like a female Augustus Gloop when we walked into Whole Foods; she had an unholy gleam in her eye as we headed to the Vosges chocolate area.

[–]bonekeeper 3 points4 points  (4 children)

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Was she like all jumpy and clapping and pleading "pleeeeease" with baby voice? LOL

[–]monsieurhire2 7 points8 points  (3 children)

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It was more internalized. Her eyes lit up and she had a big smile on her face, bigger than I had ever seen before, as she walked with a quicker-than-usual pace to the chocolate isle. I wound up dumping her the next morning for unrelated reasons.

[–]1wiseclockcounter 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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good thing she stocked up on her feel good bars.

[–]TfahsNoriEht 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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chocolate isle

I'd be pretty psyched myself.

[–]monsieurhire2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Lol, whoops!

[–]vaker 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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You owe me a new keyboard

Did you spill your chocolate? (:

[–]mbr902000 22 points23 points  (3 children)

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Only good thing about a fatty is the fact that they will suck your dick like they are trying to suck your spine out. Having sex with them is like fucking a body that has been suffering from rigamortis for a couple weeks

[–]the99percent1 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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No thank you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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they think you shoot chocolate

[–]wakingslowdiver 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Oh my god.......thank you for that mental image

[–]I_Ejaculate_Clowns 9 points10 points  (4 children)

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Porked a fatty, brought her chocolate, you could have thought I cut her a check for a thousand bucks. Never again. Maybe a different one. No chocolate.

[–]monsieurhire2 4 points5 points  (3 children)

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It's the fantasy of the hot guy who understands and enables their chocolate addiction. But some guys actually get off on fattening up a woman. Maybe it has something to do with getting her pregnant . . . . Probably.

[–]notseriouslyserious 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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Cooking can be an act of love. If she eats it, she accepts my love.

Eat women, eat my love!

At least that was how one of my buddy explained it. He was always a bit off though, so take that with a grain of salt.

[–]monsieurhire2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Here's the film trailer, lol:

Warning, disturbing imagery follows:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuEp3GAcEKM

Seemed pretty twisted to me.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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I knew a guy who would do that to make her less attractive to other men. Fucked up shit

[–]TRPforme 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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I'm envisioning watching a whale eat chocolate with the ferocity of Mini Me from Austin Powers while you watch on and observe like the case study she is.

Woman are delusional as to what is on and off limits in regards to men, especially if they used to be skinny then packed it on. Just because your a drunk frat boys last chance to find a wet hole during last call, doesn't mean you're able to bag thin/fit guys for LTRs.

Fat girls are more of a joke fuck then an actual fuck. I still remember the one time I picked a fattie up from the bar. Was drunk as fuck and doing her doggie with a dip of Copenhagen in, so I folded her back up and used it as a spitter.

[–]JD42305 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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She feels entitled to fit men because fit men like you are fucking fat girls like her. Dudes need to up their standards so we don't have disgusting girls that feel entitled.

[–]monsieurhire2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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Lol, I never fucked her. The OTHER reason for going out with her was because she was a virgin . . . at 24! Also, she was actually really hot for a chubby girl. She had really pretty features, and she looked good when she made herself up. I've never experienced a pussy as tight as hers. But, she wouldn't give it up, and I wasn't going to go full Sith Lord, so I just dumped her. It was a good exercise in a number of other ways too.

[–]1redpillbanana 45 points46 points  (8 children)

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You're right, "How dare you!" is a favorite phrase of women and especially feminists. It is the sort of phrase that royalty would say to their subjects and implies that they are socially in a higher class/position.

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (5 children)

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How dare you!

I.e, Know your place in the pecking order and don't even try to improve your lot with women and life. Often parroted by women and naturals.

[–]forbiddenone 3 points4 points  (4 children)

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Naturals?

[–]SacreBleuMe 15 points16 points  (0 children)

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Guys who are naturally good with women

[–]2jagrmeister721 12 points13 points  (1 child)

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Natural alphas. Men with high social status, by birth, genetics. Top of pecking order, also have high SMV.

[–]JoshtheAspie 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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I know a fellow like this. We're both engineers, and we've discussed social heirarchies and strategies. He's a classic alpha, who is a greater beta when just entering an environment.

When a freshman in college, for example, his body language was that of someone who knew he wasn't dominant, but was trying to increase his dominance, and he recognized it.

I, on the other hand, usually didn't give 2 fucks about social heierarchies, which was a quality he recognized in me before I did. We got along pretty well, and still do.

About the only time I care about social heirarchy is when I'm trying to ensure it doesn't get me fired at a job.

[–]curiusblue -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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Don't worry about it.

[–]abcd_z 6 points7 points  (1 child)

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"How dare you!"

"I dare, your majesty, because I am not part of your feudal little system! I am my own, independent person! If I feel like walking I'll walk. If I feel like jumping, I'll jump. And if I feel like saying something obscenely insulting, then that's! Exactly! What! I'm going! To do!"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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This explanation sounds beta as fuck.

[–]icallmyselfmonster 17 points18 points  (4 children)

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The correct response is.

'I dare.'

[–]JRomulan 9 points10 points  (1 child)

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The correct response is:

"Who dares, wins"

[–]ImBloodyAnnoyed 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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SAS motto

[–]TechnoL33T 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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Last time I heard a "How dare you," I replied with something along the lines of, "Oh, is there some kind of negative consequence I should be afraid of? Because I sure the fuck don't give two shits if you're insulted by this."

[–]luxury_banana 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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[–]2dfx 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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She sounds like the 4/4 angel token you created then disappeared!

[–]Toctsx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Well, that woman certainly does at least

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 292 points293 points  (52 children)

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When was the last time you took a girl on a date and courted her? When was the last time you made a real effort with a woman?

When I noticed that men who don't do that get to fuck them.

[–]1redpillbanana 207 points208 points  (41 children)

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QFT. I don't remember who said this, but this is an applicable quote: "If you want guys to be nice, you should fuck nice guys."

[–]monsieurhire2 96 points97 points  (31 children)

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Lol, but as I've said before, they don't want to fuck guys who are nice, they want to fuck mean guys, and then have the mean guys be nice to them because it proves that they are special, since the mean guys, are by nature, mean to everyone, since they are nice to them, it means they have some value that nobody else has. And also, the mean guy still has to be mean, because if he turns nice, then he's a nice guy and no longer interesting.

[–]Evolved_Red 42 points43 points  (3 children)

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Even though this principle has been hammered into my head to the point that it's a natural, effortless thought now, I won't lie when I say thinking about it still does my fuckin' head in.

[–]1redpillbanana 55 points56 points  (0 children)

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To catch the hamster, you must BECOME the hamster.

[–]monsieurhire2 39 points40 points  (0 children)

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That's probably because the deepest male desire is to find a woman who will respond to their kindness. If a woman temporarily indicates or emulates this desire in her conduct, it invoke the fantasy, and you forget what you're dealing with: flesh and blood.

[–]forbiddenone 38 points39 points  (2 children)

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There’s no point in climbing the cliffs of insanity for a woman who will only think you’re a creep for doing so.

You just described the plots of the most popular romance novels.

[–]monsieurhire2 14 points15 points  (1 child)

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That's how they get brainwashed. They read all that crap that is marketed to them, and then they turn into consumerbot terminators, always searching for the unattainable idealized consumer experience, never happy with what they have from a material, experiential standpoint. I had sisters growing up, and I would occasionally look at their magazines for opposition research, but I would get bored so quickly and wonder why anyone would waster their time reading the crap that was in there. But that was because I was a boy and interested in practical things.

[–]1kick6 24 points25 points  (5 children)

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Both sexes have a dual mating strategy:

Women want men that can have any woman at any time, but choose JUST them

Men want women that fuck like a pornstar, but choose JUST them

Neither is realistic, but only one has the full support of the MSM.

[–]16 Endorsed Contributornicethingyoucanthave 18 points19 points  (2 children)

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You aren't using the term "dual mating strategy" correctly. It means looking for one mate to have children with, and another mate to help raise the children. It's often seen in birds where females will build a nest with one male, but fly off to mate with a different male.

[–]zorrotypeoutfit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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Probably was going for 'oppposed' or even 'orthogonal' mating strategies.

[–]1kick6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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No, I'm using it correctly because only the absolute tippy-top tier of either sex can actualize this bimodal strategy with a single individual. The rest of them do actually engage in a dual mating strategy. For women we call this strategy "alpha fux and beta bux."

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Small points of clarification / contention:

Women have been shown to be willing to share a single dominant male as opposed to mating with males of lower status.

Also, I don't agree, necessarily, that men want women to choose just them. I understand the concept and any man who's been cheated on can tell you how much of a betrayal that feels like. But I couldn't give 2 shits less who Girl #8 fucked last night or is going to fuck tomorrow. Ya I wanna fuck the pornstar version of her. Period. Not, "I wanna fuck her like she's my fuckdoll/whoreprincess but only if she only belongs to me exclusively." I absolutely get that we're "wired" to be possessive of females for fear of reproductive infidelity. But I think it's safe to say that wiring doesn't matter much in terms of sexual strategies. Notice I didn't say "Mating strategies" because I don't think many of us are planning on "mating" with these women. We're sleeping with them to sleep with them. Most of us will be using protection in some form to prevent disease and/or pregnancy. So we're bound by our genetics to have a mating disposition but my strategy is a fucking strategy. And my fucking strategy doesn't rely on exclusivity.

Finally, I disagree that the strategies are unrealistic. Some men and some women are able to satisfy their strategies completely. For a while. I'm coming to agree with the serial monogamy concept of human mating. But, regardless, I think the strategies are only unrealistic in the sense that they're at odds with each other. Satisfying one set is a matter of luck (finding the whore-nun or the womanizing-asshole-with-the-heart-of-gold). But satisfying them simultaneously is a matter of the heart (lol).

[–]lookingatyourcock -5 points-4 points  (17 children)

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Just replying so I can find this comment again later, as I am on mobile and can't save. I had never looked at it that way before. I always assumed it was because nice guys are full of shit, in that they take the gestures too far, making it all too hard to believe. I transitioned from a girl into a guy, and this is how I always viewed it when guys got overly romantic with me.

[–]monsieurhire2 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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So you thought the nice guys were lying and just trying to manipulate you?

[–]lookingatyourcock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Basically, but I did think that many had good intentions, and were more so lying to them selves. Nice guys are awesome when you first get into the dating market, but it gets old real fast when every guy is saying the same shit. It loses its meaning after awhile. I do not beleive that girls are into assholes, just guys that will tell the truth, even if that truth is ugly and is hard for us to accept at first. If you act like a dick all the time, I really doubt that you would have much success.

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I'm with you here. When a nice guy is being particularly nice to a beautiful woman he just met, what could be his motives? Certainly he doesn't love who she is as a person, he doesn't even know her. He loves what she looks like. When he then starts behaving as though he really likes who she is as a person, this is a gutless and ultimately deceptive strategy for getting what he wants. Then cue the bitterness when the woman just wants to be friends (and after all, isn't this all that Mr. Nice Guy pretends to want?), and you see what mister nice guy was really about all along.

[–]JoshtheAspie 10 points11 points  (2 children)

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I'm going to point out that this is what the vast majority of media tells guys to do.

You want to have sex with a girl? Be super-duper nice, and she'll obviously appreciate you for the wonderful guy you are, and want to have sex with you!!! ... ... ... yeah right.

The bitterness comes in because he keeps being told he's not nice enough, so eventually it becomes flanderized, and still doesn't work.

He's following society’s instructions so as not to be a "jerk" or "bad person", and his failures with this rout are probably in the double-digits by now.

And, of course, if being nice is the way to get sex, if he's nice because he wants sex, there is no reason to denigrate him for following that approved path.

The problem is that people just want a man's dick to be available for the women that want it, on women's terms, and to come with cash and prizes... and because that's not how it works, male sexuality is shamed.

I've got more sympathy for the men that are decieved into this path for seeking sex, than for those that reinforce the deception.

[–]lookingatyourcock 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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I usually only ever see ugly girls complain about guys not being nice enough. Although they often seem to be more vocal. Plus romantic movies and television in the main stream media is usually written by men.

However, even when a better looking girl complains about a guy not being nice enough, it's not meant to be taken literally. It seems like a lot of the communication problems between men and women is that men take everything so literal, and can't read between the lines. A lot of girls I've known, including my former self, like a guy that is honest. But the truth sometimes still hurts, so we'll still complain. The hope and assumption on the girls part is that the guy will value his integrity more than the complaint, and not actually change, because they don't want them to change. They want the guy to be able to handle their emotions, by acknowledging how the girl feels. But trying to fix the problem is not what they want. Words are more like tools to express a feeling, rather than a tool to command or request an action.

[–]JoshtheAspie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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I usually only ever see ugly girls complain about guys not being nice enough. ... Plus romantic movies and television in the main stream media is usually written by men.

I was discussing why an individual guy becomes bitter. As such, this isn't about the experiences of an individual woman who encounters him and what she tells multiple people, but the experiences of that individual man.

The point is that he's told, not necessarily by the women he tries to date, but by those he seeks advice from, by dating sites, by movies, by the culture in general, whether the people he's hearing from are men or women, whether the media he's seing is written by men or women. Generally, he hears that if he's not getting girls to like him, he must be doing something wrong, that he's somehow not being nice enough.

This is an illusion, and so of course if he buys that false bill of sales, he's going to be bitter about it.

As for your second paragraph, both of those sets of desires you're talking about are called "fitness tests" or "shit tests" around these parts.

A man needs to stick to his own values, and be unshakable (or close to it), rather than bowing to the pressures the woman puts on him, be it her complaining about his being truthful, or her having a temper tantrum over his saying they can't afford godiva chocolates.

And yes, a gal wants a guy to be able to handle her emotions, but quite frankly, demanding a guy acknowledge her emotions, but not fix the underlying problems can be as much a failure of the shit test, as would be his dropping everything to apply a balm to her temporary emotional outburst. It's not about the nail? It's about the nail.

All that said, "A quarrelsome wife is like the dripping of a leaky roof in a rainstorm; restraining her is like restraining the wind or grasping oil with the hand."

Sometimes, a woman is just going to be unhappy, and there's nothing a man can do about it. In circumstances like those, "Better to live on a corner of the roof than share a house with a quarrelsome wife."

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    [–]lookingatyourcock 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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    Yea, I was born as a guy, and am a guy now, but a transitioned into a girl for about 2/3 years to experience what it is like. I've always been heavily into acedemics. But after a year of living life in a new city as a girl, where no one knew I used to be a guy, I found it much harder to care about anything intellectual. And when I did, it's was usually superficial. I was dating a guy that paid for absolutely everything I wanted, and guys were hitting on me all the damn time. As a result, there was never any pressure to improve myself in any way. I maintained my school work, but never ever thought to go above and beyond any of the requirements to get a decent grade, contrary to how I used to approch projects. It made me realize that some level of discomfort and feeling that things aren't good enough is needed to be an intellectual. Secondly, simply starting and stopping female hormones made a massive difference too. Testostrone seems to create a drive, or feeling of pressure to get somewhere, or do something. An intensity of some sort which was absent when I took anti-androgens. I now suspect that the few intelligent women out there, most likely have higher testostrone levels than the average female.

    [–]sweetleef 6 points7 points  (6 children)

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    The whole idea of men and women spending leisure time together is misguided. If there were no sexual or family motives, the interests and activities of most men would not include women at all. The sexes like different things, for different reasons - the expectation that couples are supposed to spend leisure time together is artificial and a recipe for frustration.

    [–]randomdude600 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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    The ultimate ideal of a beta male is to find a "partner" who he shares 100% of his interests with so that he never has to spend time with his guy friends and prove himself as a man ever again.

    As long as "the wife" is happy it's all good.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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    Just curious. How long was the the longest romantic relationship you've had and how old are you?

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      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      Sorry AG, I wasn't referring to you. I was speaking to Sweetleef.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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      Sweetleef, can I ask your age and length of your longest romantic relationship?

      [–]sweetleef 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      Too old, too long.

      [–]lookingatyourcock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      I don't even like being friends with guys like that, and none of my girl friends do either. It isn't even possible to be friends with all those guys. At least two or three guys would try and hit on me every time I simply went to the grocery store. So part of it is just the pracitcal issues of a ton of guys all acting nice, so you can't use niceness as a means of filtering them. Even if they were all truely nice, the market supply of niceness is far oversaturated, causing its value to plummet.

      [–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 87 points88 points  (1 child)

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      "If you want guys to be nice, you should fuck nice guys."

      perfect

      [–]DanReggins 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      Then we can occasionally date once you've demonstrated sufficient sexual prowess.

      [–]wakingslowdiver 5 points6 points  (2 children)

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      Thank you. I will use that in real life, I can guarantee you that.

      [–]16 Endorsed Contributornicethingyoucanthave 15 points16 points  (1 child)

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      I will use that in real life

      Oh, I've had that discussion with lots of women. They will tell you that they're trying - they're really honestly trying. It seems like he's a nice guy, but then he turns out to be an asshole.

      They're not lying, by the way. They really are consciously trying to find a decent guy. It's just that attraction wins out over everything.

      I even recently had a similar discussion with a girl who posted to /r/purplepilldebate. She made a post talking about how wrong TRP was - because, you see, she really did like nice guys. When I challenged her a bit, she said that actually, she likes tall, masculine men.

      My point is, she wants exactly what TRP says she wants - someone who is classically attractive. Then after that, it'd be great if he was nice.

      [–]luxury_banana 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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      Exactly. When women say they want these qualities in a man, what they mean is that at the very least they want those qualities in a man they are already attracted to.

      [–]kesa_maiasa 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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      I think that's Stefen Molyneux. At least, it sounds a lot like him.

      [–]1redpillbanana 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      I wouldn't be surprised - he seems like a smart guy.

      [–]chill_geddy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      Simple,honest and true beautiful quote

      [–]My_MR_Throwaway 45 points46 points  (6 children)

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      That's perfect and damn isn't that the truth! I don't know how many times I've been a "time ho" for some girl, taking her out to a nice dinner and giving her a good conversation and a bunch of laughs only for us to part ways when the date was over and her to go fuck some other dude who wouldn't do that shit with her. They would get the best of both worlds, a guy to fulfill them emotionally, validate them, and pay for everything and another guy that didn't do that stuff to fuck them silly.

      Women don't respect that stuff, they say they do but your exactly right, they don't let guys like that fuck them. Let them treat you like a chump and they will, every damn time!

      [–]ScannerSloppy 20 points21 points  (5 children)

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      It's true. Many years ago, I took a girl out to a nice place, spent more than I could really afford on her, and later found out that she had blown her "best friend" in a public restroom just minutes before I picked her up.

      [–]journalistjb 20 points21 points  (3 children)

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      I took a girl out a few times - dinner one night, a movie another. I was being super sony betamax and would say things like "Want to hang out tomorrow and catch a flick?" and she'd say yes - instead of me saying things like, "Want to go on a date?" etc. She'd let me pay for her, of course.

      She tells me she wants to go to a strip club. A friend of mine had a birthday party coming up at one, so I invited her as my +1. She really wants a lap dance (from this not-very-attractive dancer, imho, but whatever) - so I pony up $40 and get her a private dance. She's gone for like 20 minutes - comes back and is gushing about how the stripper ate her pussy and make her orgasm like 5 times and how she got her number/contact info to go out with her sometime. She seemed to think it was a fun and scandalous type thing to do and was tickled pink at her first girl-girl experience.

      I was still naively hoping at this point that said girl was into me. One of the guys we were there with was like, "Well, sounds you owe journalistjb a hell of a lap dance yourself... hop on that boy's lap!" and... she refused. Told me she just didn't see me that way and "didnt want to give me the wrong impression, but it was 'never' going to happen."

      My takeaway from all that? She had known me for over a year. She knew me to be an upstanding, commendable guy, who was nice to her, nice to her friends (we have several mutual buds). She knew me as a generous fellow, a guy who invites her to parties, looked out for her (kept her from being date-raped at a party once, actually.)

      In other words, she'd prefer to have random hookup sex with a nasty stripper from a backwoods club in Kansas than even go on a single date with me.

      Not that I think, you know, women are sex machines and nice coins and blah blah blah, but clearly her judgment was so far off that I just decided to drop her as a friend entirely.

      tl;dr Girl I was trying to woo hooked up with a stripper during a lap dance I paid for, but refused to even go on a single date with me.

      [–]ScannerSloppy 10 points11 points  (2 children)

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      I always hated that whole "sex machine/nice coin" analogy. You could just as easily say, "Men aren't just validation machines that you drop sex coins into."

      [–]journalistjb 10 points11 points  (1 child)

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      I think the real message is that 'nice coins' are not the proper currency to receive said sex. Don't waste your resources on the undeserving. No sending flowers at her job until her flower's been on your knob.

      [–]caius_iulius_caesar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      I think the real message is that 'nice coins' are not the proper currency to receive said sex.

      That's exactly it. Legal tender for sex is status, novelty and unpredictability.

      [–]My_MR_Throwaway 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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      Damn! I'm sure her inner-hamster still found a way to rationalize it though. They all think they are entitled to a good man that will provide them with a house and a family when they are ready, but in the meantime they pull shit like this cause #yolo or whatever. And no one can question or judge them for it either. I mean if you want to suck dudes off in public restrooms then fine, but to do it right before a scheduled date with another dude is some scandalous shit.

      Kind of went off on a rant their, but I swallowed TRP a while back and it's still bitter at times.

      [–]youjustdonedidit 43 points44 points  (2 children)

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      Agreed, i stopped trying to be romantic to girls, when i found out some girl i liked was fucking a nigga that plays football, smokes weed, and has dreads. That was a huge awakening for me, and i told myself never again.

      [–]PrinceBarrington 52 points53 points  (1 child)

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      I pedestalised a co-worker years ago. Ended up back in her bed several times after nights out, no sex, just sleeping. Idolised this girl. Never reciprocated. She ended up banging a co-worker who was caught stealing from the till and had several kids he never saw. I was a chump sometimes, not always, but when I liked them I'd turn full on white knight. Missed many an opportunity thanks to tuning into my feminine side. Never take relationship advice from a girl. Never!

      [–]youjustdonedidit 13 points14 points  (0 children)

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      dang just like me, i asked one of my friends who was a girl advice on how to get this girl, and she told me to buy her candy, because girls like candy, and how girls like guys with me, so i asked what type of candy the girl liked, and bought it for her, and was about to give it to her, the next day, when she told me to stop talking to her, because i was annoying her, trying to get to know her better and i shouldn't talk to her anymore.She talked about me behind my back and It was pretty humiliating when i found out what her boyfriend was like. She was smart, a cheerleader, etc, and her boyfriend was some nigga with dreads, tattoos, and a runningback for his high school, that was my last time trying to be romantic for a girl, and getting advice from a girl on how to get girls.Someday, vengeneance will be mine she will most likely get preggo, nigga will probably leave her for a white girl, she will probably be looking for some beta provider, i will pretend to be her night in shining armor, i will spin plates with her, then get the fuck out when i'm doing using her, and move on to the next chick.

      [–]Redonqulus 74 points75 points  (15 children)

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      Of course the issue is NEVER the issue. Man can't get laid, Mans fault. True. Girl DOESN'T get laid by selected man, Mans fault. ROFLMFAO. Crusading at its finest. Woman; "What I do fucking works, you deal with it, I don't have to.". RP Man; "Fuck you.".

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      Ugh. True. I reconnected with an old crush from highschool a couple months ago. I was such a pathetic orbiter back then, I was the guy who drove her to her bfs house because her parents wouldn't let her date him officially.

      Anyway. We go out for drinks after not seeing each other for years. Now her life is a mess, major drug issues and just terrible. after the evening she is all "I can't believe I have feelings for you now" But now I don't want anything to do with her in that way. I turn her down and she berrates me for two days via text

      [–]journalistjb 25 points26 points  (5 children)

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      This. Fuck. So many women, it's like, "jesus, where were you 10 years ago when you were young and beautiful and had such a promising future? Now you're fading fast, you made a ton of mistakes, got a kid off some irresponsible loser, and suddenly NOW you want a nice guy to rescue you - and you expect him to still be fantasy-good-looking, AND you want to 'wait' on sex - because she's learned her lesson after her dozens of one-night stands - so when she finally finds a decent fellow, she rewards his decency by NOT having sex with him

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      so when she finally finds a decent fellow, she rewards his decency by NOT having sex with him

      I agree that this can be frustrating. However, I have an alternative perspective for you to consider:

      Women may subconsciously understand the Coolidge Effect, that the more times a man has sex with the same woman, the longer it takes him to ejaculate, and hence he loses his attraction for her each time he has sex with her. Women may have also discovered that often, the men with whom she readily has sex with are not interested in sticking around, so they put up their defenses and try to weed out the ones who are only interested in sex. It's not exactly logical, but it's reasonable after experiencing the cycle of meet guy --> sleep with him --> he doesn't call back.

      I don't particularly like this system. It's brutal for both genders. But it is the way it is.

      [–]16 Endorsed Contributornicethingyoucanthave 11 points12 points  (2 children)

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      the cycle of meet guy --> sleep with him --> he doesn't call back.

      It's the cycle actually more like this: meet ten guys --> choose the most attractive one --> sleep with him --> he doesn't call back

      The difference there is important. The reason that 10/10 guy doesn't call back is that he was a dime, with lots of other ladies available to him. Why would he commit?? "Because I had awesome sex with him" is not sufficient reason. I'm not sure if women realize that's what happening. I do think that when they're younger, they don't really care.

      [–]17 Endorsed ContributorWhisper 13 points14 points  (1 child)

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      Precisely. Women often fail to understand that the relationship market and the sex market are different markets. A woman has enhanced value on the hookup market, so she can punch above her weight class there. But if she does that, she won't get relationships out of those hookups, because the guys she hooks up with are above her value in the relationship market, and they know damn well they can do better.

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      I don't know why this didn't click with me until you spelled it out. I understood the concept of women devaluing themselves on the "Relationship Market" (RMV) by being slutty...

      Wait, I'm not sure that math works out. Just because a guy has a greater SMV doesn't mean he has a great RMV. It makes sense for a woman to mate up with a higher SMV guy. But, I'm just now starting to think of SMV and RMV as almost completely unrelated in males. On the other hand, it's intrinsically related in women.

      So, a High SMV male can fuck whoever. Whereas the High SMV girls only fuck high SMV guys. But a High RMV guy will probably only go for the high RMV girls.

      As a side note, I'm curious to hear what people believe increases a woman's value on the "Relationship Market." I know there are LTR threads but I don't necessarily mean LTR (because I don't plan on all relationships I have turning into long-term things).

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      Man. That's a lot of assumptions in there. I'm sure it happens though.

      [–]DanReggins 2 points3 points  (4 children)

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      Can you share some of those with us? Sounds like RP gold.

      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

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      I didn't save any of the texts. Its been a a while. The biggest was trying to say since I was a single father and she was an ex heroin addict, we were both damaged and meant for each other.

      She also said I couldn't be man enough for her anyway because everyone she has been with before was very aggressive in chasing her. Not counting i wasn't even into her so maybe that was why I wasn't aggressive.

      I eventually told her if she wanted to even be friends she better never speak to me like that again. That doesn't work because she is completely self deprecating in trying to get me. "If only I were XY or Z then maybe you'd love me"

      [–]caius_iulius_caesar 15 points16 points  (1 child)

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      TIL single mothers are heroes with the hardest job in the word, but a single father = a former heroin-addict.

      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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      Or better, women will shame you how ever they can yo get you to date them once they "have feelings"

      [–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      was an ex heroin addict

      Jesus, turn back and run away. Unless you are a drug dealer she won't chase you.

      I eventually told her if she wanted to even be friends

      what the fuck?

      [–]1wiseclockcounter 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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      i believe that's what you call come-uppins.

      [–]caius_iulius_caesar 10 points11 points  (0 children)

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      Comeuppance.

      [–]AkihiroDono 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      Rofl

      [–]Aaronthe3rd 66 points67 points  (4 children)

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      Something that just clicked for me as I was reading these comments is that if you act feminine around a woman (being emotional, being "romantic", being "a nice guy") then she will treat you like a woman (i.e. see you as a friend not a sexual partner, talk to you about her guy problems, want to just hang out). If you want a woman to treat you like a man then you need to act like a man. It's really that simple. I don't know why it has taken me this long to realize this.

      [–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

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      Good point. It's all about breaking the programming that makes a man feel ashamed for acting like a man.

      [–]forbiddenone 19 points20 points  (1 child)

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      then she will treat you like a woman

      So you just described how to sleep with a Lesbian!

      [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

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      Huh? Maybe that's why my very first girlfriend, who now identifies as a lesbian, still has a thing for me. I totally acted like a girl with her.

      [–]skimdit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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      [–]17 Endorsed Contributortrudatness 52 points53 points  (2 children)

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      It's just another piece of "Where are all the good men?" drivel.

      The collective answer from men is "Somewhere not putting up with women's bullshit."

      We are supposed to be chivalrous, kind, thoughtful, romantic and ready to commit. Meanwhile contemporary women are supposed to ride Klausner's Cock Carousel (while blaming men for the negative outcome of the ride). As if when you meet what you think is a lovely sensible woman and inquire as to what her previous dating experience is, and she replies "Indie Rockers, Trust Funders, Pornographers, Felons, Faux-Sensitive Hipsters and Other Guys", as a real man you're supposed to line up unflinchingly and sign a binding marriage contract with such a person.

      Because as the white knights and TBP trolls like to say,"It's really none of your business anyway".

      Dr. Helen Hunt replied to this nonsense by saying It’s a sensible choice for some and the video games, magazines, and humor websites that Hymowitz disses are a way to fill one’s time with fun activities that don’t tell you that you suck, are an “unfinished person,” emotionally detached or on your way to jail for fake domestic violence charges. People used to treat men better than this.

      I'd like to add that a logical reaction for all of this is the Red Pill.

      When the societal norm is an expectation that as a man your value is measured (as described by some of the highest browed feminist intellects) by what women expect from you in service of their needs, then that is not very different than saying as a man you have no value at all. You are disposable. You are sub-human and your dreams and desires are meaningless. This has become painfully evident in laws that govern the rights of men.

      So we swallow the red pill to transform our victimhood into what we see as our rightful identities as men. We increase our levels of awareness. We point out this farce. We embark on life/behavior patterns focused on self-determining methodologies that prioritize our happiness.

      [–]LasherDeviance 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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      It's just another piece of "Where are all the good men?" drivel.

      The collective answer from men is "Somewhere not putting up with women's bullshit."

      While I agree with you on some points, the real answer is: "Waiting patiently in beta-hood, right where you want us "good" men to be, until you get done fucking and using up the whole world."

      [–]real-boethius 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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      binding marriage contract

      Binding on you, but in her case subject to her f33lz.

      [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 49 points50 points  (16 children)

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      You must understand that women do not exist solely for sex. By only worrying about why she won’t sleep with you, you’re missing the point entirely — just because a woman got dressed and went out to a bar does not mean that she is out for sex. It’s shameful for you to believe that women go out with the intention of going home with you.

      Um... Exactly the opposite.

      [–]stiletto_vodka 27 points28 points  (3 children)

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      "It's shameful for you to believe that women go out with the intention of going home with you because they went out with the intention of going home with someone."

      [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 13 points14 points  (2 children)

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      Hahahahahahahaha... Thanks for the laugh. Anyone who goes out to a meat market is looking to fuck. If they don't get laid they either didn't find someone they wanted to fuck, or nobody wanted to fuck them.

      If they don't want to get laid they stay home and watch Netflix.

      [–]stiletto_vodka 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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      ...you do realize I was making fun of the original text in the letter, right?

      [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      Yep. Agreeing with ya.

      [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (6 children)

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      I am so tired of that "they only want sex" argument. It s what they say about the friend zone too. I want to, or wanted to, get to know women. I did that for a long time, and where did it get me?

      I think its that they think "I'm his friend, and since we are friends already, the only thing more he could possibly want is sex". Except I dont treat a friend like a romantic and intimate partner. There is so much more that comes with a relationship than just sex. Sex is easy. If that's ALLL I wanted I would pay for it.

      [–]ilike2partyhowaboutu 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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      "All men just want sex! PIGS!!"

      What are you broken or something that you don't like sex, lady?

      [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 4 points5 points  (4 children)

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      Kinda missed the point. They want sex, but if you find yourself consistently in the friend zone, they don't want sex from you. Instead they want validation, attention, money, and your time. They want sex from guys like me, because I make them earn all those other things, and reward them sparingly if I want to fuck them.

      [–]caius_iulius_caesar 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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      They want sex from guys like me

      About the only thing I don't like about /r/TRP is this sort of posturing.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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      No see, I get that now. I didn't earlier in life. I get what you are saying. What I don't get. Well I never will get it because what and why women think how they do.

      [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      Who cares why they think how they do. All you need to know is how they think and what they will do when you do something. Your actions have results with them, know what the reactions will be and you can then play the game.

      Do you need to understand the programming to be good at Call of Duty? You just need tho know what happens when you do different things.

      [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

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      No, no, she's right, she just means YOU in particular and not YOU as in all guys.

      [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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      No, she is 180 off, for me and everyone else. That engine won't run, but it will pop and sputter so it looks like it wants to run.

      [–]suscitare 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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      What is the opposite of what?

      [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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      Did you see that? It went past you slow enough most could catch it, yet here you are wondering what happened.

      [–]suscitare 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      OK, so what you are saying is that when a woman goes out to a bar she is actually out for sex, it's just that this fact is below her level of conscious awareness, and is something that feminists won't/can't admit to themselves. It is not shameful to acknowldge these facts that science and reason make clear to us.

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      https://badgerhut.wordpress.com/2011/02/23/obligation-masculinity-kay-hymowitz-and-her-clueless-brethren/

      Collective nagging as social policy – what a crock. Some nebulous “uncertainty” is not the core problem. Hymowitz and her ilk’s hamsters can’t bear to admit the real truth: men know what is expected of them, think it sucks, don’t find it rewarding (it certainly isn’t getting them laid) and have turned away from fulfilling other people’s (i.e. women’s) laundry lists of what they are “supposed” to do to win the imprimatur of “manhood.”

      ... When Kay Hymowitz penned her original “Child-Man” article in 2008, Dr. Helen Smith took the article apart on Pajamas Media, calling out its blatant misandry, insulting tone and complete lack of actual contact with men. The comment thread saw over 250 posts. Helen posted an update that Kay Hymowitz had emailed her:

      Hello Helen;

      “Given the hundreds of messages I’ve gotten from men concerning my recent City Journal article, I wasn’t surprised to see your post. And I have to say, while I stand by my description of the child man culture and still believe that young women’s complaints about the guys out there are based on some truth, I made a mistake in not exploring the male view.

      At any rate, my next piece will be about exactly that. (Your comments section will probably help me.) I knew some men were angry, but I didn’t understand the depth and extent of their rage. I don’t think many people do.

      Who does she think she’s kidding with this non-apology apology? Notice the double-down on shaming – it’s not that men are passionately responding to being baselessly attacked; they have deep and extensive irrational “rage.” Note also her primary deference to “young women’s complaints” as they are the only ones that matter. Unreal.

      [–]16 Endorsed ContributorTRPsubmitter[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

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      Collective nagging as social policy – what a crock.

      haha...very well said. That whole first paragraph is gold.

      [–]thedanielmasterson 33 points34 points  (13 children)

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      You can be romantic. You can love a woman. You can write her poetry, hold her, kiss her softly, talk about your feelings, and let her see you at your weakest...

      ...But before you do any of that stuff, youve got to set a high standard for how you want to be treated, and continuously hold her to that standard.

      [–]DasWood 29 points30 points  (0 children)

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      Very first sentence.

      I know many women have failed you. I know your heart has endured a lot of stomping, your pride has been shattered, your trust has been compromised and your spirit has been abused.

      Le, one paragraph later.

      You must understand that women do not exist solely for sex. . . Stop immediately and adjust your mentality.

      Lmfao. "I know many women did not want to have a committed relationship with you, or cheated on you, et al, but check your fucking privilege you cis shit lord!" That is as far as I got before I thought it HAD to be a troll, scrolled down and saw it wasn't.

      [–]KJL13 15 points16 points  (2 children)

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      Haha a Penn State grad. This does not surprise me that this bullshit comes from a grad of my alma mater. I can guarantee this bitch would get fucked up every weekend at the bar I work at and go home and get plowed by someone she met there.

      [–]16 Endorsed ContributorTRPsubmitter[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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      this bitch would get fucked up every weekend at the bar I work at and go home and get plowed by someone she met there.

      Hey. But that is not her anymore. That was just a phase. She deserves to be happy........SO YOU BETTER MAKE HER HAPPY, OR ELSE SEXIST!

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      She looks like a sorority girl by the photo provided. If that is the case she has seen much more cock than the average college girl.

      [–]Endorsed Contributordeepthrill 43 points44 points  (2 children)

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      I've had good luck with what I refer to as being "dominant romantic".

      A few weeks ago, there was a girl I had met at a bar who I had hooked up with that night, but nothing too serious.

      I texted her two days later and told her that we're gonna go on a date and go to dinner. I picked the place, and we met there. I ended up paying but only after she promised to pay for drinks afterwards that night and to take me out to dinner a few days later.

      We fucked that night.

      She told me that she liked the fact that I didn't pussy-foot around it and called it a date, and told her where to show up. She said most guys when they try to take a girl on a "date", they are very passive and ambivalent, saying things like "idk, where do you want to go?". She was really attracted to the fact that I took charge and led her.

      However, she also really liked the fact that it was a "date" because it "made her feel like a woman." It was at a sports bar so it wasn't a fancy expensive restaurant, but we had a bottle of wine which she wanted.

      So what I'm trying to say is that (1) she was already attracted to me, (2) the fact that her and I went on a date fulfilled her "disney fantasy" of chivalry, but (3) my frame and dominance planning and throughout the evening led her to be attracted to me and sleep with me. That night and the next morning.

      It really does depend on frame.

      With the right dominant frame, you can fulfill both the disney princess as well as the alpha fucks fantasies that a girl has.

      Oh, and P.S. I made sure she followed through and took me out the next time we hung out. But I still told her where to take me, etc., and we have slept together every single time we've hung out.

      [–]16 Endorsed Contributornicethingyoucanthave 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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      I had hooked up with that night

      Once you have sex with a girl, go ahead and be romantic. You aren't going to drive her away or anything.

      The failure is the guys thinking that being romantic is going to make a girl like you. It doesn't. If you meet a girl and ask her out on a date and are all prim and proper, you're going home alone.

      However, if you meet a girl and build attraction and fuck her, then you can be romantic and actually distinguish yourself in that way - if you actually care to.

      dominant frame

      Well sure, don't be a pussy.

      [–]splendiferocious 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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      This, this is so good

      [–]drallcom3 14 points15 points  (0 children)

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      I like the first article below in addition to this one.

      "How One-Night Stands Can Teach Men To Be Relationship Material"

      Oh no, I don't dress sexy to get sex. Unless you're very attractive or rich, then I totally do.

      [–]Operahat 14 points15 points  (1 child)

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      "Alessandra is a self-proclaimed nerd."

      Oh, fuck the fuck off, you twat.

      [–]gershom45 10 points11 points  (0 children)

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      This. I thought well, maybe she earned her degree in engineering or computer science or some such in 3.5 years. That would be the shit. But no, no mention of what she studied.

      [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil 56 points57 points  (8 children)

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      Knights of the white order, the barbarian red scourge is upon us! They accuse our queen of being nothing but a simple harlot who has laid with dozens of Moors at a time. They say that women are mortals and not fit to worship. They wish to restore things to the old way. But if we go back to the old way who will bath women in milk? Who will entertain women? Who will spend their every waking hour fulfilling women's wishes? The barbarians are not to be reasoned with fire the NAWLT catapult we must drive them back from the white kingdom.

      [–]autowikibot 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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      Here's a bit from linked Wikipedia article about Moors :


      The Moors were the medieval Muslim inhabitants of Morocco, western Algeria, Western Sahara, Mauritania, the Iberian Peninsula, Sicily, and Malta.

      The Moors invaded the Iberian Peninsula in 711 and called the territory Al-Andalus, an area which at different times comprised Gibraltar, most of Spain and Portugal, and parts of France. There was also a Moorish presence in what is now southern Italy, primarily in Sicily. They occupied Mazara on Sicily in 827 and in 1224 were expelled to the settlement of Lucera, which was destroyed in 1300. The religious difference of the Moorish Muslims led to a centuries-long conflict with the Christian kingdoms of Europe called the Reconquista. The Fall of Granada in 1492 saw the end of the Muslim rule in Iberia.

      The term "Moors" has also been used in Europe in a broader sense to refer to Muslims, especially those of Arab or African descent, whether living in Spain or North Africa. During the colonial years the Dutch introduced the name "Moor", ... (Truncated at 1000 characters)


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      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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      The current day "Moors" tend to be doing pretty well with insulating their women from Feminism

      [–]suscitare 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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      What is a NAWLT catapult?

      [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      Its yelling Not All women are like that without taking the time to consider what's in a woman's biological interest.

      [–]SupALupRT 19 points20 points  (0 children)

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      Its common sense really if you come up to a girl and worship her before you even know her...what are you worshipping? You're a valueless idiot...they don't know why its a turn off but it subconsciously they know you're a loser.

      [–]cagethepepper 19 points20 points  (0 children)

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      Ah, yes, the Bluepill circle of life.

      [–]watersign 17 points18 points  (2 children)

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      Taking advice from a woman on anything other than domestic chores is a futile waste of time.

      [–]randarrow 17 points18 points  (1 child)

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      I wouldn't take advice from most women on domestic chores either.

      [–]caius_iulius_caesar 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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      This. The guys I know are way better at chores than the women I know ... they actually do them!

      Almost all the (30-something, single) women I know have housekeepers.

      [–]19 Endorsed Contributordrrrrrr 10 points11 points  (1 child)

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      Additionally, I find it amusing that whenever a guy doesn't want a relationship with a girl, he has "trust issues" or "commitment issues". That is like saying if I didn't want the latest model of the iPhone, I have "technology issues". It's completely nonsensical. If I don't trust you, it means I don't trust you, not that I have a fractured personality that was crippled in high school or some shit.

      It goes beyond female solipsism. "He doesn't want me for a relationship. Well, since I know I'm awesome, it must be him! Gee, I wonder why the last ten guys I've dated have trust issues or commitment issues!" If no one wants to date you, it's generally a problem with you. This particular strand of hamster logic "You should trust and commit to me despite me not having proven my value at all" is particularly ridiculous because women require you to prove your status constantly through continuous shit tests before they give up sex. Yet they cannot conceive of the fact that guys have logical, systematic ways of meeting women and quickly figuring out if she has LTR potential or is just a plate.

      [–]16 Endorsed ContributorTRPsubmitter[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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      "trust issues" or "commitment issues"

      Classic shaming tactic. Any guy who isn't interested in their 170 lb body must be somehow damaged emotionally. Even some guys I know do this and ask me why I don't get a steady gf. Then I get to deal with all of their shit...

      That is like saying if I didn't want the latest model of the iPhone, I have "technology issues".

      I really like this response. Gonna steal it. But implying that these girls are the latest iPhone model is too generous. Maybe change it to "If I wanted a red car instead of a yellow one, I have "color issues".

      they cannot conceive of the fact that guys have logical, systematic ways of meeting women

      So true. And they despise men who have opted out or "beaten" the system. Because that means they as women cannot shame those men into giving them provider benefits anymore. That's why I won't drop RP knowledge on my targets because any semblance that you have some type of "power" over them that cannot be beaten by their vagina is offensive and dangerous to them.

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      The redpill really clicked for me when I realized I was trying to win over the completely wrong entity by trying to please women.

      Buried away in that cute blonde's head you just met at the bar, deep beneath her conscious mind, deeper even than her massive ego, is a cold unfeeling entity called natural selection. That's whats really pulling her strings in the mating dance and that's what you have to impress to win her. By what logic does being nice impress the eons-old biological mechanism responsible for our survival?

      [–]hownao 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      Mind-blown

      [–]totorox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      Yup, that's gold. Indeed there is a shift. Your way of verbalizing it is insightful.

      [–]jacobman 15 points16 points  (5 children)

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      Same questions back at you, bitch. When was the last time you showed you were worth being courted? When was the last time you made a real effort with a man?

      One problem I've noticed is that people tend to see things from their own point of view. Many women will respond to questions like yours by saying that they have a lot to offer. They have a nice diploma. They have a steady job. They're "caring". They think that that is what they want, so they also think that that is what you want. However most guys want things more like the following: Keep up your physical appearances, be able to act rationally, be appreciative, and be respectful. I'm sure the details of the list vary, but I'm just saying that I've noticed a difference between what women generally thinks makes them a much better mate for men and what men think makes a woman a much better mate for them.

      [–]vaker 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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      saying that they have a lot to offer. They have a nice diploma. They have a steady job. They're "caring".

      This is called female solipsism and projection.

      Keep up your physical appearances, be able to act rationally, be appreciative, and be respectful.

      But, but, but that requires making an effooort...

      [–]caius_iulius_caesar 4 points5 points  (2 children)

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      Yeah, we men can't get enough of dem hot bitches with higher degrees. Academic achievement in a woman gets my crotch-rocket throbbing.

      /s

      [–]TfahsNoriEht 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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      I can't have sex with your personality, and can't put my penis in your college degree, and I can't shove my fist in your childhood dreams, so why are you sharing all this information with me,

      [–]caius_iulius_caesar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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      I can't have sex with your personality

      In a sense you can have sex with her personality, but it's kinda indirect.

      and can't put my penis in your college degree

      Try rolling it up ;)

      [–]16 Endorsed ContributorCyralea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      That's solipsism for you. It really is hilarious to see the frantic confusion of a single post-wall woman. I have a high paying job! I'm dominant and aggressive! Why won't anyone love me?

      Making femininity a dirty word has ruined the lives of uncountable women.

      [–]t3chniker 7 points8 points  (1 child)

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      pickup game

      Thought you meant basketball.

      [–]1wiseclockcounter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      not basketball but in a way we're still talkin' slam dunks and alley-oops.

      [–]JohnGalt316 13 points14 points  (1 child)

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      FML this beta is going to ruin princess bride for me

      [–]zorrotypeoutfit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      It's still fucking amazing--as a fable or fantasy.

      [–]SirNemesis 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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      The breakdown of comments by gender in that first article is illuminating.

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      Oh yeah, cause I'm sure this bitch would fall for all that bullshit? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (unzips fly) "Get to work honey."

      [–]SomersetRaglan 8 points9 points  (6 children)

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      PU advice from a woman:

      "Molly Fedick · Style Editor at Womensforum.com

      Patrick Henry My strategy would be as follows...you stop and ask for the time, directions, or some other non-threatening conversation opener. Once you disarm someone with a regular, non-threatening question, you open the door to continue the conversation. So, "Hey, sorry, do you happen to know where XYZ is?" If a guy I thought was attractive and looked friendly/safe asked me that, I would absolutely stop and answer. So, she answers, and then it's totally normal to say, "Thanks so much. I just moved here and everyone has been so friendly." Again, IF I think the guy is attractive/nice, I'll say "Oh, yeah, everyone is great here! Where are you from?" and then the conversation continues. Who cares if it's all BS? The point is to get a conversation going, get her number, ask her out, and then laugh about the hilarious lie you made up just to talk to this beautiful girl on the street years later when you're married! BTW...a guy did this to me once in a grocery store and it worked. "

      [–]ilike2partyhowaboutu 19 points20 points  (1 child)

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      If a guy I thought was attractive and looked friendly/safe asked me that, I would absolutely stop and answer

      Again women only tell you how to pick them up if THEY ARE ALREADY ATTRACTED TO YOU.

      [–]SomersetRaglan 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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      Amen, brother

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      "If I think the guy is attractive/nice", yeah, and if he's not he's a filthy potential rapist creep who just conned attention from you by asking an 'innocent' question. Am I on the right lines here, Molly?

      [–]16 Endorsed ContributorCyralea 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      Solid advice there, Molly. To attract a woman, you should be attractive!

      Groundbreaking, this stuff.

      [–]LasherDeviance -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

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      Teaching a fisherman how to fish from a fish is no way to catch fish.

      [–]SomersetRaglan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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      Did you read the post?

      [–]superangelo64 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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      There's a nostalgic part of me that still thinks JNCO jeans are sweet :(

      [–]16 Endorsed ContributorTRPsubmitter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      I rocked a chain wallet too....yeah, it was bad.

      [–]1iluminatiNYC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      That second link is classic. I do have a question though for the regs, since I am on serious noob status. How do you deal with people who have taken the Red Pill and want to throw it back up?