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[–]rim_trabajo 127 points128 points  (12 children)

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In this forum we tend to boldly state the fact that as a man you are entirely on your own in life. At a glance this is a scary realization, to be in it without a support system of any kind. Allow me to rephrase this. There is no uncertainty in your victory over every aspect of life, because the single most bad ass and influential person in your life is looking out for you as their primary priority. That person just happens to be you.

Edit: In my experience being a 'nice guy' I put this huge and constant amount of effort and resources into what ever woman was in my life in hopes that she would do the same and provide me that needed fulfillment. That never happened. I was left after close to a decade repeating this process with one woman after the other, with nothing to show for it. I had lost a ton of time and money in this pursuit and it got me nothing. After that I refocused on providing my needs to myself first, intrinsically generating that fulfilling life for myself. I now feel better on my own than I did at the peak of my last relationship. Consider everything you have to give to this mystical perfect partner and then immediately give it to yourself.

[–]undercoverhitman 17 points18 points  (1 child)

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There is no uncertainty in your victory over every aspect of life, because the single most bad ass and influential person in your life is looking out for you as their primary priority. That person just happens to be you.

Wow. Thank you for that. I'll never see myself the same way again.

[–]Movonnow 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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I reached the same conclusion a few weeks ago.

I was thinking about how I did everything perfectly in my last relationship, how I've always tried to make her happy. How in general I try not to hurt people and to be good to everyone.

Hey! Yes you did wrong to someone! YOURSELF! You sacrificed your pride, dignity, your health, you sacrificed yourself for others! Plus, for some who don't even deserve it! They just have boobs and a vagina, that's all. Yes, you've been hurting the one people that matters the most : yourself.

[–]dublinclontarf 16 points17 points  (4 children)

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As a man in life, the only woman who will truly love you, is your mother, and sometimes not even then.

[–]ElectroKarma 20 points21 points  (2 children)

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Another author on here put it well, there is a love hierarchry, women love men through adoration and their children through unconditional love. But even though men can love women unconditionally, women cannot. As a man, you have to make yourself into someone that is admire-able if you want the love of any other woman than your mother.

[–]Movonnow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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God. If only I knew it before. But at least I guess I'm lucky to learn it before I get married. Though I never will, now that I've found TRP lol

[–]dublinclontarf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Too true.

[–]Movonnow 1 point2 points  (4 children)

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You are right.

I'm in the same case as you are. I've always been giving EVERYTHING to the girls I were dating, hoping they would do the same for me.

And that n.e.v.e.r happened.

I was skeptic about all that. But right NOW, I'm printing it and puting it on my bedroom's wall.

[–]rim_trabajo 2 points3 points  (3 children)

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I hope for your sake you figured it out earlier than I did. I have built enough hate and resentment for a lifetime and it continues to hold me back from being successful with the much better women I now meet.

[–]chewybannana 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Have no regret, at the time you were making what you believed to be the best decisions you could make or you would not have made them. Placed in the same situation with the same misleading information yiu had been fed you would do the same thing, so why resent it. You know better now, and its probably a good thing you are angry that whatever happened happened (I believe anger to be a great motivator and it helps me to not repeat mistakes), but bitterness and resentment will only bold you back. Be angry at what life handed you at the beginning, but let go of the past and be happy that you have discovered the error of your ways. Unlike so many who are destined to spend the rest of their lives being manipulated, used, and never having any real self respect.

[–]Movonnow 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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In fact, I'm beginning to understand it. And your post helps me with that.

But thanks God I'm only 22 years old.

Maybe you could redirect your hate and ressentment towards something else or use it in a productive manner?

[–]rim_trabajo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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I've used all that negative energy to become a full on lifting/fitness addict, and the benefits have been pretty apparent and wide spread.

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (2 children)

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I was definitely near suicide when I first found trp a little over a year ago. Killing myself was all I thought about. I'm doing much better now.

[–]EducatedCavemen 13 points14 points  (1 child)

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And from now on, shit only gets better.

[–]anymanusa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Same story, and new to taking action, but can confirm. Have always been trending RP in philosophy, but needed the community to confirm, develop and ACT.

[–]the99percent1 22 points23 points  (5 children)

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Wow, thanks for sharing your story.

Remember as a man you are in destiny of your own fate.

[–]Zaorish9 14 points15 points  (0 children)

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Very brave post, and your self-improvement efforts still braver. I agree completely.

[–]jjakers88 15 points16 points  (2 children)

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Was in a similar situation a year a two ago. But once you hit rock bottom and realize that absolutely no in the world gives a shit about and everything you want - you need to get yourself - something happens to you. You become INVINCIBLE!

[–]SnowCrabThunderDick 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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This is definitely the truth. I hit absolute rock bottom two years ago, and the realization that I am the master of my own destiny changed me. I now have a drive to succeed that I never had growing up. I'm not on top yet but I sure as hell will be.

[–]1Zackcid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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I get a similar version of this every time I temporarily fall into depression. That one day following my recovery is always the most badass -- I have no more ego, no more expectations, and just a healthy sense of "nothingness". An empty template.

[–]_grump 28 points29 points  (3 children)

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This is a good anecdote and should be a sticky. Many men show up here close to death- either emotionally, physically or both. Women are most potent at inflicting the former type. Although the Red Pill is powerful, many of these guys find these revelations later in life (>30 years) and find it challenging to accept such foreign principles which in their minds goes against everything they've ever experienced. To make matters more unfortunate, being a mostly male culture here at TRP, we pride ourselves in the "suck it up and learn attitude" which weeds out most of the weaker and lesser males.

The way of Red Pill is just a minute force in society and with the current plague of feminism and the social injustices it places upon men, it should be our manifest destiny to spread the word and teach the way to all that are willing to listen or require assistance. Like the mythical phoenix, the pill induces a man to shed his blue pill skin and be reborn in the fires of the red pill. Many men, being scorched so hard from prior emotional trauma can't survive this process on their own. Its not that they are simply weak, but rather, they have much less plasticity for their ideologies due to older age or upbringing. So i say to you, fellow RPM, the concept of brotherhood was born and bred on the battlefield of the caveman era, let us reignite such flames and join together in preventing the death and destruction of all we love brought on by the 21st century hypocrisies of feminism.

[–]HitlersCow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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"suck it up and learn attitude"

This is so important but it often gets over-looked since the explosion of new subscribers over the last few months. There's a reason we're the most hated sub on Reddit. We don't sugar coat the truth with political correctness.

[–]Tri4rius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Hail, friend. I'm depressed and the Red Pill isn't helping (due to the fact that it speaks the truth). But I have nothing towards those who call me "bitter" other than contempt. I feel like they're subhumans, vile cockroaches that feast on our flesh.

Having read Atlas Shrugged, I know that this is a Red Pill story. It's the story of a masculine revolt against the decadent system built against the Natural Order.

But, my calibre would not allow me to be the scum that desperately becomes PUA for the attention of some whores. I'd rather die a virgin. I know that if I ever become a PUA, I will hate myself. So, if women enjoy this decadent reality they've built for themselves, let them have it, let them fuck all the "Alphas" (many of them offering simply what women want) they want.

I spit on them all and their twisted minds. I burn their words of hate and shame. They want us to be MEN, right? THIS is manhood. It's all the "bitter" stuff they hate. They've turned us into weaklings and they have the audacity to claim that this wasn't what they sought. The Red Pill is the movement that wants men to be MEN. And if I love, I'll speak my mind, if I hate, I'll say it. Even if it's the first date, even if it's the first moment I know someone. And they can burn in hell if they don't like it. Die alone? I sure will. But I'd rather die alone than be the wimp this feminized society wants me to be. Fuck them.

Stay strong, friends.

[–]shitaintworthit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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FUCKING HELL THIS IS THE FIFTH TIME I READ YOUR POST I AM PUMPED AND MOTIVATED

[–]Fuck_off_Mr_Lehey 11 points12 points  (4 children)

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You never want to use a permanent solution for a temporary problem.

[–]thepastIdwell 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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Uhm, no, that's exactly what you want. Don't have money for rent? Win 5 trillion dollars. I can see a permanent solution to my temporary problem working out quite well in that instance.

[–]aww40 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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I upvoted you comment because I see your point. However, there are probably problems associated with winning 5 trillion dollars.

Granted I would deal with them, but I believe the point of that saying is that you don't solve a problem with an extreme. Look at this way:

Car's running funny? Buy a new car.

Doesn't make sense, does it?

[–]thepastIdwell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Doesn't make sense, does it?

It indeed doesn't. It all hinges on whether the permanent solution is a desirable solution or not. So the saying, at least, is faulty due to its incompleteness as it is commonly stated right now.

[–]1 Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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I like that.

[–]harkrank 40 points41 points  (8 children)

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I've said it before, but wanting suicide is not a sovereign thought. It is the consequence of thoughts that have been planted in your mind by other people, just like being beta or any other mind-fuck. Fight the battle for your mind and for your soul!

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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The only time suicide is even remotely an answer is after a long drawn out battle with a serious and painful disease or injury. The sort of stuff that has you popping pain pills like they're coming out of a PEZ dispenser. The crap that makes your quality of life go down the toilet rapidly. That shit is good reasons.

Contemplating some .22 calibre asprin applied directly to the forehead because some bitch you got the oneitis for wont let you fuck her is a pathetic reason.

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    [–]nataliieportman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    Jesus. That made my heart sink. That is just awful. RIP to them.

    [–]MonkahBoy 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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    This is exactly what people who're suicidal need to figure out. Props.

    [–]Dokkobro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    Just wanted to say thank you, never heard of that perspective before. Generally when suicidal thoughts jump in, one instinctually tends to think they are all self inflicted, when in reality it's failed expectations of people who think they know you that are bringing you down. Let the sinless throw stones, whatever you've done and whatever's been done to you are there to make you who you're supposed to be. N shit. Knucks.

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      [–]harkrank 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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      The mindset is planted into you. Almost all communication is human beings trying to plant thoughts into each others heads. It is a war. You have to do the best you can to filter out which thoughts are good to let into your subconscious and which thoughts aren't. Being suicidal is not a natural state of mind, no animal commits suicide. Other people have influenced you in this direction, probably since you were a child. Don't take it as an insult, all of us grow up with the thoughts and mindsets other people have determined for us. A child cannot defend itself against corrupted thoughts or manipulation. Most people live their whole life without taking control over their mind.

      The mental agony and self-destructive thoughts are side-effects of trying to break free.

      [–]redmitten -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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      oh god lol, not the whole Fight Club 'You just have to wake up' speech

      [–]BluepillProfessor 10 points11 points  (1 child)

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      Not being glib but...shit happens. I had some bad shit that went down in my life and some down times and some up times. Never contemplated suicide. Homicide? Well. OK. We are born to live and everybody has a gift to give. Yada yada but it..is..true. Taking that away is completely unacceptable.

      The solution is to realize you are man from race of mighty warriors that wiped out all the large animals and then conquered everybody else. THOSE guys were our antecedents. We descended from the winners, NOT the guys who gave up. You have the blood of millions of years of victory within you. The solution is to use drive, logic, and reason. Recognize once you have dug a hole, the first thing is to stop digging. Then chill out for a bit and take some time to figure how you can get yourself out. You CAN get yourself out of that hole and it doesn't matter how deep it is or how fucked up you are unless you have a serious mental or physical health problem, you CAN get out of that hole- usually in less than a year.

      Great detail on a those life experiences and a little intense on the suicide ideation and descriptions- sweet release?

      [–]shitaintworthit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      Reading all these posts is so inspiring, some real mind expanding shit here, great post.

      a little intense on the suicide ideation and descriptions- sweet release?

      Yeah I know, but that's where I was at the time, not now. I just got to a point where I felt like suicide was the only thing, that could save me from the pain, I hadn't really considered self improvement as I was too shocked to think clearly.

      [–]boredinclass2 9 points10 points  (5 children)

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      Ugh. This shit is great now but it was tough to read. I held a revolver against my temple a while back and , while I was on mushrooms, it changed my life because I didn't pull that trigger. It's a funny thing staring death in the face and going," man this is what it feels like." Then putting it down and going, nope, it's not a release, just makes me a quitter if I do that. When the going gets tough the tough get going. Be a fucking man and kick your problems in the nutsack with both middle fingers up. Feels a shitload better to fight than to give up. Never give up, always be growing, learning, and striving. That's the good stuff. That's living.

      [–]INomYou 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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      My one trip on shrooms left me with an enormous appreciation for life and our human ability to experience profound emotions like joy and anguish. I'm no New Age hippy - in fact I think most of it is social engineering bullshit, but shrooms fundamentally changed me. For the better. I still rage and go dark, but I now have a backstop for the lowest times.

      [–]boredinclass2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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      Agree. I'm a religious conservative and shrooms changed my life in a profound way just like you said.

      [–]heist_of_saint_graft 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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      Here to recommend LSD as a catalyst for the "white light experience." Take with someone you love and trust in a setting free of distractions or danger.

      Last summer I was planning my own suicide, even went so far as to negotiate the purchase of the murder materials with a seller. Decided to have one last crazy summer where I did whatever I wanted. This led to two such trips on powerful LSD.

      During these experiences I felt a Love from the universe I never thought possible. I literally felt like a child again, the world was a mysterious place full of wonder and possibility. I have not been able to seriously consider suicide since.

      [–]shitaintworthit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      I've read alot about psychedelics and such, this is definitely something I want to do experience later in life, you are lucky to have experienced this.

      [–]JohnCh8V32 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      Fuck yeah

      [–]asiank1ng 56 points57 points  (10 children)

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      Thank you for this post. Though I am not contemplating suicide myself, it did remind me of a really good friend of mine from high school who did commit suicide last March.

      Adrian was a good guy. During high school, I considered myself as that guy who was friends with everyone. Popular, unpopular, athletes to library nerds. During the beginning of high school, we always talked about stupid stuff, typical kid shit. As time progressed, we started drifting apart, and the only type of contact we kept was when we would see each other in the hallways, saying hi to each other then going on our separate ways. During this time, I had been looking into the typical PUA stuff, self-development bullshit. Also, Adrian had gotten into a relationship, judging by the pictures and status on Facebook. He was clearly a blue pill.

      Fast forward to March 2013. I look at my Instagram and I see a picture of him with "Rip Adrian" on the top of the photo. My heart sunk. I had lost my grandmother by a reckless driver, so having another person gone from my life was a very big issue. For some reason, I had a DEEP gut feeling that he committed suicide due to relationship problems, or his insecurities with women. As we speak, I still currently believe in those assumptions. I will never know though.

      This is why the red pill is so fucking powerful. It will save lives. It will teach you so much about women and the world around you. I'm not sure if a lot of people here are religious, but I pray for all blue pills, because they simply are not informed. They DONT KNOW any better. They're not bad people, it's just that they are blinded to the reality of things. If Adrian had seen this stuff during his relationship, it could have potentially saved his life.

      I laugh at people who are too ignorant to even consider the possibilities of the red pill reality. We have people hating on this subreddit, to people bashing theories etc. It's as if they all know what they're talking about, in regards to topics that they have 0 experience in. Be thankful that you know this knowledge because again, it could save lives.

      Rip Adrian, I miss you homie. Gone too soon.

      [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (6 children)

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      This is why the red pill is so fucking powerful. It will save lives.

      I didn't find the red pill until much later, but it would have helped me a lot. I was also suicidal and extremely unhappy, mostly from interactions with women. But instead of killing myself, I just started doing opiates instead. Being a hardcore drug addict is another way of not coping with life just like committing suicide. You want to die, so who cares how addicted you are?

      When you do everything "right" according to blue pill and girls still reject you for some loser who just got out of jail for stealing car radios, it literally makes you insane. You just blame yourself, not understanding why these interactions are taking place. (While it still is secretly your fault, you have no idea what to change or why).

      Many people who need red pill philosophies will sadly never find them. There is so much propaganda against this sub that it is insane. If people see that I post here, it's a sudden shit fest about how awful a person I am.

      The most recent ad hominem against me:

      Instead of being a decent human being you believe women to be mindless, tamable fuckholes

      [–]ClearArmor 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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      Fuck what anybody thinks. What are they going to do? Take your fakey ass reddit points? Who cares. Some people apparently get upset they got saddled with a uterus or because the world can't be fashioned into some ideal they dreamed up. The objectors won't give you any real suggestions for alternatives. They just bitch, moan and hurl accusations, though their use of sarcasm and snark can be entertaining.

      If it works for you, it works for you. End of story.

      [–]sweetleef 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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      The most recent ad hominem against me:

      Do you get upset when a dog barks at you? Do you question your value when a toddler says he doesn't like you?

      Meaningless people say meaningless things. If what they say upsets you, it is because of the value YOU put on what they say.

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        [–]loveofnotes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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        Send a PM.

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          [–]tipofmywang 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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          I feel ya man. I moved back in with my parents in 2012, at the ripe old age of 29. My 30th birthday was spent at their home, and it was certainly a time of much contemplation in my life. I finally got my priorities sorted, figured out what I enjoy in life, and went back to school to get what I want. I don't care that I'm 31 and an undergrad, and neither does anyone else. There are other 30 somethings here, with similar backgrounds but we're all working towards the same goal.

          [–]sweetleef 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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          Then do something.

          That is not a platitude. I mean actually DO something. Stop thinking about it, stop rehearsing all the possible negatives that can occur, stop dwelling on all the failures and missed opportunities. Thinking about it will not change it - action is required. Action builds momentum, making the next action easier. And it works in the other direction - inaction destroys momentum.

          Don't try to map out every single thing you need to do in advance, just focus on the first thing. Take some small step, anything no matter how small, but do it right now. Then, take the next one. If it doesn't pan out, take another one, immediately - don't contemplate and overanalyze it, just take the next decision. Eventually, if you can keep doing that, it will work.

          [–]cascadecombo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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          You don't deserve anything, you aren't entitled to anything. You gotta go out and actually find out what you can do to improve your situation, and go do it. Sitting around thinking you deserve more won't get you anywhere.

          [–]MrGunny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          Then seize the life you want. Start today. Start now.

          [–]xxxmeslave 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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          I tell my daughters..."You are the most formidable thing ever created on earth. Not even the dinosaurs had the singular ability to do so much good or so much harm. You can be responsible for saving millions or destroying millions. You choose each day to be weak or powerful."

          [–]3 Endorsed ContributorSkorchZang 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          lol wut

          [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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          Even TRP is a method of over emphasizing how important relationships and female validation is.

          Getting laid is not the goal of life. Internal peace is.

          [–]dvrzero 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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          Yeah at its core trp as it pertains to women is antithetical to our biology.

          There's an undercurrent here though that I think people like world leaders adhere to, something that, once learned, gets you invites to the cigar and golf clubs and other exclusive benefits. Like being raised super-rich and that translates into being super-powerful.

          It isn't money that these folks have, although that doesn't necessarily hurt. It's upbringing.

          There's gonna be a lot of butthurt in here because we weren't raised like the elite, most of the tips are accidental. Or incidental.

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          You have the rest of eternity to be dead, you only have another 60 years max on this planet. May as well give them ago.

          [–]geofxc 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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          Glad you made it back from the edge

          [–]SgtBrutalisk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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          OP, thanks for the story. I had dark thoughts too but I decided to struggle, life is nothing more than constant struggle against entropy.

          [–]watersign 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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          Sometimes some of the facts here make you re-evaluate why you were put on earth, but I know feminism and other regressive movements are a modern phenomena, we just happen to be alive during this unfortunate time. To anyone out there who is suffering and or at rock bottom...look at it this way..there is no where to go but up from here so keep your chin up!

          [–]Hardparty 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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          When you get what you want in your struggle for self,

          And the world makes you king for a day,

          Then go to the mirror and look at yourself,

          And see what that man has to say.

          For it isn’t a man’s father, mother or wife,

          Whose judgement upon him must pass,

          The fellow whose verdict counts most in life,

          Is the man staring back from the glass.

          He’s the fellow to please, never mind all the rest,

          For he’s with you clear to the end,

          And you’ve passed your most dangerous, difficult test,

          If the man in the glass is your friend.

          You can fool the whole world down the pathway of years,

          And get pats on the back as you pass,

          But the final reward will be heartache and tears,

          If you’ve cheated the man in the glass.

          • Dale Wimbrow

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          The goddess in the mist. You'll never find her because she's nothing more than the wind blowing through the trees.

          Glad to hear you survived so you could be reborn, OP.

          [–]Namerali 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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          Good post. Best one I've seen in a while. And it's a rare gem too: it's a fundamentally emotional one that delves into an important topic. Offing yourself is final and, no matter how badly life has beaten you down, nothing is worse than ending it all.

          I know. I was you about 11 some odd years ago. Tried to off myself with a bottle of pills. Guess what happened the moment I did: yeah, that's right, I regretted it and I wanted to live. So I did. I've been on the path to self-improvement ever since.

          [–]Hardparty 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          I read on here someone related suicide to choosing to jump from a burning building. Where the pain in life is a constant, encroaching wall of flame and jumping is an instant release, albeit also painful. Even though both are negative, it puts in perspective how the pain in jumping for some can pale in comparison to living.

          [–]Movonnow 2 points3 points  (9 children)

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          Hey guys. I'm sorry, this is completely unrelated to the subject. Actually, this is a question for /r/asktrp. I've been trying to post it for 2 weeks but it doesn't work. The situation is driving me crazy to the point where I NEED to talk about this with some RP guys. So I post it here, sorry, it's not the right place to do so.

          I'm in engineer shcool right now (first year). I've been making friends, going at all the parties and socializing a lot at the beginning of the yeart.

          Then I got a girlfriend and I stopped going to parties. Long story short, I broke up 2 months and a half ago. I know she fucked other guys since then and that she at least had a new boyfriend 2 months ago.

          She moved on. And I didn't.

          The problem is that I don't go to parties anymore because she goes there as well.

          For instance, there is a huge party going on in a few days. It will be an awsome party with costumes and lots of different people. But I know she will be there, in a slutty costume grinding on mans, kissing other mans, and even fucking someone in the bathroom or something like that.

          On the other hand, that means I can't have any fun anymore with the people of my school. Since I neglected my friends during the 'relationship' with this girl, I'm not sure if I can count on them for going there with me and for supporting me if what I see hurt me.

          I really don't know what to do man. I'm hiding into my room in order not to see her but I can't do that forever.

          [–]harkrank 4 points5 points  (5 children)

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          That a woman left you doesn't mean you failed. You should never be embarrassed of yourself. Ignore her. Nobody is gonna think "what a loser" because you broke up. It's time for you to be stone cold, go to the party.

          [–]Movonnow 0 points1 point  (4 children)

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          its more that i dont want to see her with another guy

          [–]harkrank 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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          She is of no importance anymore. Pay no attention. You are better than her.

          [–]3 Endorsed ContributorSkorchZang 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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          Nobody does. Guess what, she doesn't want to see you with another girl.

          That's why you go to the party with a different girl and fuck her in the bathroom. Stone cold is right. In the RP world it doesn't matter that you may not feel like it, you just gotta do it. Feeling like shit will pass on its own (and a lot faster the more other bitches you're fucking in the bathroom).

          The old bitch, you say "Hi! How's tricks? Gotta go, that's my date. Toodles!"

          [–]Movonnow 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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          I don't think she would care. She said to me she never loved me. I was her beta buck. But I guess I'm thinking too much from her perspective.

          Anyway, you are right. But I'm not going to the party. Not because of her but because I have work to do. But next time I want to go to a party and I have the time to do so I'll do it.

          [–]3 Endorsed ContributorSkorchZang 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          Ha ha. Man, you would be surprised. From experience, it doesn't much matter if she thinks you're Hitler's retarded bastard child with incurable genetic impotence.

          The instant she sees another beautiful girl wrapped around you at the party, suddenly she's "discovered feelings she didn't know were there", goes outta her way to run into you everywhere and schemes through mutual friends to get with you.

          I wanted you to experience that, not because you need to get that bitch back (no way, losing proposition always), but because it helps a lot to soothe the pain you're going through. Shows you just how superficial all their feelings are, compared to yours. That shitty feeling after she's gone and moved on is no joke. So if you get the chance at a similar party going forward- do it man, for the reformed TRP you.

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          I'll throw a similar story out there for you. The last girl that tossed me was the one who pushed me here. I went to a birthday party a week ago where I knew she was going to be there - it was the party of the friend who introduced us - and yeah, it was uncomfortable. She was there with her new dude. I ignored her, flirted with other girls, and enjoyed myself.

          Get it out of your head that because she dumped you, she now "owns this territory" or some shit. She didn't win, or conquer anything, she made a bad relationship decision. You do whatever the fuck you want, and if she has a problem with it she can stick it.

          [–]Movonnow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          In fact, I'm the one who broke up. I flirted with a girl yesterday and it felt amazing. I mean, it completely erased my ex from my thoughts.

          [–]1Zackcid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          You need to go MGTOW for a few months to a year. Your putting way too much focus on female-kind. Bring the focus back to yourself instead of this random bitch.

          You gotta face it -- you've developed Oneitis for this girl. The only reason she's able to get over you so quickly and so easily is because she's a hot, young woman with a lot of options. You need to develop an abundance of your own in order to snap out of this stupid illusion. Start talking to women and people NOW. Soon, you won't even think about her.

          Again, it's really important that you work on yourself though. An accomplished man would never hide from this girl or cringe from seeing her grinding on other guys. This shit should be child's play to you. She's just being a female, typical shit. You just gotta rock it more than her.

          [–]DoubleKnee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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          I recognize that RP is a broad subject; but I think at it's core it has to do with how you present yourself the world related to women, your health and fitness, personal goals, work life, etc.

          And I think RP places a lot of emphasis on how men interact with women.

          It would be about as beta as you can get to kill yourself over one specific girl; that's like a terminal case of oneitis.

          It would be just as beta to kill yourself over the entire group of women.

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            [–]shitaintworthit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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            Your thoughts are so bleak and beautiful at the same time, life is about embracing the duality of it all and appreciate it for what it is, so you can make the most of it. Acceptance is the ultimate freedom and I've never been happier.

            [–]no_game_player 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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            To each their own. I no longer seek the attempt, but I have no fear of death because I am confident I will prefer it to life. The agony of the attempt made me regret it, yes. The fear of a second aftermath has kept me from it. But there is nothing in my life since then that has been worth the continual agony of life.

            I find it annoying when people circlejerk (I'm sorry, I had the term, but it's the only thing I find appropriate for this) about how wrong suicide is because they themselves do not or no longer desire it, or because they lost a loved one. I'm sorry for your losses, but there's nothing more selfish than wishing for another to suffer agony for your comfort. And just because you post a feel-good, or find near-death experiences that support your argument does not, in fact, make their suffering 'incorrect'. [No, no one is explicitly saying that. But it's the implication behind all of this: Oh, well, I made it through. Or they did. Or he had a bad experience. Etc. So therefore, your decision that death would be better must be wrong! Didn't you realize you're just mistaken about how much shit sucks? Just take our word for it! What could possibly be a greater rejection of the validity of a person's experience than to deny their capacity to even judge whether it is worth living?]

            You managed to cause yourself more pain than your life normally had, and you regretted it. You managed to rationalize this into a reason for living. Good for you. Please refrain from acting so sanctimonious about it.

            I'm not advocating suicide. I'm just saying that feel-good bullshit is feel-good bullshit regardless of its intentions. This thread is not a rational appeal; this is just pathos. This is the exact opposite of the point here.

            You want to take a really bitter pill? Consider that life may not, in fact, always be worth living for everyone everywhere.

            [–]sway_usa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Game saves lives. This is a powerful story, I would say I'm sorry that happened, but it very well could be the greatest thing that ever happened to you, so it would be presumptuous for me to say that.

            [–]PrisonerOfLife 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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            It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.

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            You are a winner. The very first thing you did in this world was win the most important race of your life, and the only way you can lose now is if you throw it all away.

            Celebrate your victory.

            [–]Gstreetshit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            ITT a lot of people that used to want to commit suicide. Holy shit! I had no idea. Well, I'm glad you're here.

            [–]beginner_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Being loved by a woman was the most important thing to me, I feared losing it, of course having that kind of mindset will actually cause you to lose it, no exceptions, that is one of the most hardcore truths in this reality. Never doubt it.

            Agree. Happened to me too. While I didn't go that far I was in a pretty dark place too. I started drugs (MDMA) and like with your "suicide test" it was a wake-up call. While I don't want to say drugs are good, they aren't if abused, they also are not all bad either. In my case trying MDMA for sure changed my life for the better. So yeah, hitting "rock bottom" can be pretty good in the long run.

            [–]nappythrill22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Sometimes we need to experience the depths of hell before we can truly appreciate the how wonderful life on earth truly is.

            Glad you made it through that to see the light.

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            OP, I've had a similar experience with the drunk and the realizing that suicide is te only really irreversible decision. It caused me toget my life together.

            The perspective isn't permanent if you stop the actions that keep it in your worldview.

            I've been down on myself the last few months, and I got dealt a pretty harsh blow this week, but you just shifted me back into that perspective--I'm ready to live like I mean it again.

            Thanks for your openness an honesty. It helped at least one other person here.

            [–]shitaintworthit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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            I can't describe the joy from reading this, just keep going like nothing else matters.

            [–]Ghadis 3 points4 points  (7 children)

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            Suicide is not a solution but it remains an excellent option.

            Regret is transitory. Also your final line isn't true-- you do have a choice. For many people, death is an improvement.

            [–]christiefrontdrive 1 point2 points  (6 children)

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            My thoughts too. There are plenty of circumstances where a 9mm hole in the back of your head is the right move, it just isn't pleasant to think that.

            Haven't you heard? Suicide is painless.

            [–]Ghadis 2 points3 points  (5 children)

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            People get so mad when you say that sort of thing but that's understandable, they only get angry because they want to believe that their own lives aren't futile and pointless. I will almost certainly end my own life, I would rather it be quick and painless rather than slow and lingering in a hospice bed.

            [–]sweetleef 2 points3 points  (3 children)

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            People get mad because man has an instinctual loathing of weakness and hopelessness, without which the species would have died out long ago.

            We are here because thousands of generations of men fought and persevered through horrors we can't imagine, they battled and struggled to give us a chance to live. To scoff at that and dismiss it with some bullshit about "futility" and "pointlessness" is an insult to that stuggle and to the rest of us that are still struggling.

            [–]Ghadis 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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            is an insult

            How, exactly, does it insult anyone? You're a great example of people getting all butthurt about some comparatively mild statements.

            they battled and struggled to give us a chance to live.

            They battled and struggled for no reason. Newsflash: humans are insects on a ball of rock lightly frosted with billions of years of accumulated bacteria waste. All this shit our ancestors went through, and your self-righteous indignation, is just a series of games we play while waiting to die.

            without which the species would have died out long ago.

            So?

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            Completely empathize with this young mans story, might be sharing myself here one day soon.

            [–]CanadianStrangeTamer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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            You can only go up after hitting rock bottom

            [–]john-b 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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            Every man has to come to terms in his own way that he is on his own. I wouldn't call it being "alone" in life. I would call it being Independent & one should learn to embrace it and be proud of it. On the other hand, wouldn't it be nice to be an RP female that could get lost in a mans Strength and be protected by him.

            [–]FixinThePlanet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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            If you are seriously considering suicide, please do also consider checking out /r/SuicideWatch.

            EDIT: The sidebar has some helpful links.

            [–]∞ Red Pill VisionaryRollo-Tomassi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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            [–]yummybits -3 points-2 points  (6 children)

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            Suicide is a choice. If you really want to end your life, so be it, no one is gonna stop you.

            [–]1wiseclockcounter 5 points6 points  (3 children)

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            Pretty short-sighted thing to type. The whole point of this thread was about finding the strength to improve oneself in the face of hopelessness.

            [–]cascadecombo -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

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            Why is it short sighted? If you want to do so, you will do it.

            [–]1wiseclockcounter 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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            Because it settles on resignation. It's an option that doesn't account for the pain and hardship you would cause your loved ones, or for the ability one has to improve their life.

            I've been suicidal myself. Thankfully, I'm also a major procrastinator. When weighing the options between "might as well kill myself" and "might as well live", I feel it's lazy to say they're equal. With suicide, there is no option for betterment. With life there are endless possibilities so long as one puts up the fight, and fighting feels good.

            People who are suicidal have simply forgotten how to fight. They need to be encouraged to live, not fucking kill themselves.

            [–]cascadecombo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            I think you're missing the point of it being a choice tho, I'm not advocating suicide. I'm not going to be all touchy feely about it either. It simply is a choice, and most people choose not to do it, but still when someone has decided it will be done.

            [–]MelodyMyst -1 points0 points  (1 child)

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            Wow... You are kind of a dick.

            [–]Assaultman67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            A lot of people here can be at times.

            [–]NeoPlatonist -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

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            is suicide even reAlly a thing? i meAn really: suicide is absolute blue pill

            [–]VirgoRooster -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

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            But isn't suicide the ultimate means of taking control of your life?

            I do agree with the sentiment though. Self-love is all the love you need. Some guys will never realize that.

            [–]otaking 10 points11 points  (1 child)

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            You don't take control over a swerving car by driving it into a ditch, you fight to steer it steady. The uncontrolled car was going to crash. Making it crash isn't control.

            [–]Afronaut0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            And for many, their "car" (life) is going nowhere. They think that women will "fuel" their lives to some sort of meaning (destination).

            No, it is up to is men to gain back our control of our lives and find out what really "drives" us. To place it on women is foolish as they have their own "drives" which may be completely different than ours.

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              [–]HalfwySandwch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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              I guess seeing the text written by another person makes it unclear that it is their opinion. Get your head out of your ass, I know thats were it is.