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[–]17 Endorsed ContributorWhisper 46 points47 points  (4 children)

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Overall I think I agree.

One of the dangers inherent in learning about seduction and becoming part of the PUA culture is that one can start to regard "success" with attractive women as a measure of one's worth.

But early twentyish women are mostly silly creatures whose greatest interest is themselves, and whose strongest opinions are about fashion and what the world owes them. They are not, by and large, a useful measure of anything.

If you really want a series of ONS with attractive girls, or a set of plates to spin, by all means do pickup. But pickup is only for the service of that specific goal. It's not a measure of your value as a human being or as a man.

You have to decide for yourself what you want to do and be. Don't let hoes determine it for you.

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Every man has a limit to his abilities and interests as well. Most never reach it true, but for a lot of guys picking up chicks and hanging out is where it's at. They don't give a crap about making something of value or leaving a legacy and I say more power to them.

We all see 'self improvement' through our own filter. A lot of the BS arguing that goes on here in TRP is people trying to impose their own views. It is useless. Decide what self improvement means to you and go do it. The next guy might have a different goal, or even be a moron, so what? In the long run men are not compatriots but competitors, for women, for status, for resources, for legacies and competition is how everyone gets better. Pick your niche and go to work.

[–]1wiseclockcounter 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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Idk, I see other men as compatriots... I just think that men have a much better sense of "sportsmanship" when it comes to living life. Sure we are all in a competition of sorts, but it doesn't mean I won't help a brother out if he needs it, or respect the fact that he earned something instead of me if he deserved it.

I think that's a key difference between men and women. Men can respect when another person is better than they are. We take it in stride and use it as fuel to improve ourselves even more. Women will try to sabotage anyone better than them so as only to appear the best. Social appearances are of primary importance to women.

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That's true, but we earn respect from other men through competition. I don't respect any guy I just met just because he's a dude. No, he's got to show me something first. Some brains, some moxie, some game. He earns my respect. Likewise I would never expect anyone to respect me if I haven't earned it. That is an important part of masculinity. Revel in the competition between us because it makes us all better.

This is antithetical to the feminine way of doing things. Women immediately give each other feigned respect. Everything is a show to them, so when you don't instantly kowtow to a woman in the workplace like she's a 30 year vet, she feels like she isn't being taken seriously (she isn't because she hasn't earned that right) and has a fit about it.

[–]1wiseclockcounter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Word, maybe it was my phrasing, but I think what I was saying is in line with your first paragraph. also, I've definitely noticed that about women too, but I still have a strong feeling it is born of contempt, manipulation, and long-game sabotage. Either that, or simply doing it so they can get it in return. I think it comes down to how much they don't hate the other woman, or how un-threatened they are by them.

[–]christiefrontdrive 121 points122 points  (5 children)

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One of the most important turning points in my life was when I realized I need to be great for me, not for her. Whether her was actually a girl I was dating at the time or some bullshit bluepill fantasy girl I invented in my head, I was telling myself it didn't matter if I was a slob because no one really depended on me and I could always change for a girl if I really loved her.

And how fucking far we've come.

[–]1 Endorsed Contributorjsl2837 33 points34 points  (0 children)

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I was telling myself it didn't matter if I was a slob because no one really depended on me and I could always change for a girl if I really loved her.

Goddamn brother, I was this way for so many years since my teens. I was holding out for a fantasy.

It seems like the easier path, it seems like it's the right one - everyone's got his special soulmate - but it ain't.

[–]chillmonkey88 15 points16 points  (0 children)

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This has been my life in a nut shell after reading some books on game and red pill and bettering myself in all aspects of life (physically and mentally by drowning out filth and enjoying family/friends, hobbies and gains in the gym and milage I run just for myself and my strive to improve). I used to give a fuck to fit in. Then I turned a corner and just accepted me for me and others for who they are. I'm starting to see growth and chase my dreams a lot more. When I want to give or receive some affection... I go out and practice game, but with intent to work on me always. Good luck in the future friend.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (8 children)

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Focus on your dreams and creating value. The women will show up after you are a success.

And they've been getting used strictly for sex ever since. I regret not going to prostitutes when I was younger. Would've saved me a lot of frustration thinking about women who didn't want me and were gonna go through hell and high water to make sure other women didn't either.

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    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

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    I'll PM you.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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    me too please...

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    Seriously?

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      [–]RojoEscarlata 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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      Is it that hard to get a prostitute in the Estates?

      [–]Endorsed ContributorVZPurp 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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      Can be. Some places take pride in making stings and then collecting revenue off the men.

      [–]RojoEscarlata 60 points61 points  (6 children)

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      Great post as always Gaylube.

      And I think you touched a very important aspect here, what drives a man.

      To grow as a person we need to find a purpose in life. We in a deep subconscious level know this but do little to follow on our own desires.

      To make it worst we ate constantly bombarded everywhere with false goals.

      You gotta have the nicest car, the best house, a wife, etc. All this goals are created to crate a void in you, and even when you get them that void in you won't ever feel complete, because you have wasted your life chasing a path that you did not choose.

      If anyone here hasn't read Mastery by Greene. He talks about all of this in his book.

      One of the people he studies in the book is actually Da Vinci. Great book.

      Edit: Found his lecture about the book in Oxford U. Never mind the robots:

      http://youtu.be/8sYmQFPXmJA

      [–]5 Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 25 points26 points  (0 children)

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      The the other important bit to take away from this post is about womens' attention seeking instinct.

      You know how it is when you're getting bombarded by obnoxious, terrible advertisements all over the place, and all you can think is "ugh, who thought it would be a good idea to market their product this way? No one's going to buy that if they use THAT irritating sale technique."

      The point isn't to make you like it. The point is to get your attention, get the product's name in your brain, make sure you know it exists, etc.

      That's exactly how women are. When you see women being dramatic sluts saying and doing all the insane and irrational things they do, all they're doing is saying "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!" Hoping that a fuck-hungry alpha will see something he likes.

      As they say in the marketing world, there's no such thing as bad publicity.

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        [–]ImBloodyAnnoyed 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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        Wanted to say this. All of his books are pure gold. Read and re-read them frequently.

        [–]AUAUA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        Same here!

        [–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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        Awesome video. Greene's closing remarks were very profound and redpill...

        "You have access to information that a DaVinci could only dream of. And you live in a world with incredible problems we are facing... So it's almost your responsibility to become a master. To bring out that uniqueness and contribute. The most selfish people in the world are those who merely consume what other people have created in the past, and don't contribute."

        Those selfish people he was talking about? Bingo...

        EDIT: GLO gets my diamond bullet award for best post yet...

        "And then I realized, like I was shot, like I was shot with a diamond. A diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought, my god, the genius of that. The genius."

        [–]glacierelement 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        Mastery by Greene

        This is a quality read

        [–]trpfieldreport 65 points66 points  (26 children)

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        I think this realization more than any has been tough on me since discovering TRP.

        It straight knocks women off the pedestal that had been constructed by my upbringing and cultural experience.

        Initially, I felt strangely betrayed, like all women had been lying to me. Then I felt disappointed that they aren't as amazing as I thought they were (hence the pedestal).

        Now I feel I've come full circle - they are this way because it makes biological and evolutionary sense for them to be this way. And they aren't to be degraded for, they should be celebrated for what they are.

        I love women, they make excellent company. But they aren't men. We should stop expecting them to be.

        [–]asblue91 36 points37 points  (4 children)

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        I love women, they make excellent company. But they aren't men. We should stop expecting them to be.

        This is good and productive.

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          [–]trpfieldreport 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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          The equality issue has been morphed into a joke of itself.

          The idea behind equality is that the life of a female vs. a male is the same value. It's 1:1, as it is with all human beings.

          It shouldn't have been translated into this "Anything you can do, I can do too." But like most things in western culture, we tend to go way overboard with our knee-jerk reaction and then slowly reel it back in.

          [–]through_a_ways 4 points5 points  (7 children)

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          And they aren't to be degraded for, they should be celebrated for what they are.

          This sentiment straddles a fine line between polite respect and fantasy, but I'm pretty sure you meant the former.

          Bengal tigers shouldn't be degraded, and should be celebrated: many westerners on the internet would agree; but try telling to that to the malnourished villager trying to make a home in what could be considered a boscive Indic analogue to the modern HR office.

          Ultimately, your individual position would depend on whether you value the tiger's life more, or the villager's. And for the workplace, it would depend on whether you valued the individual right of employers to hire whomever they want, or the collective right of women to some fucked up version of "equality".

          Remember, the villager, while some may sympathise with him, is at least encroaching on the tiger's habitat. The employer isn't depriving females of their natural role.

          [–]trpfieldreport 3 points4 points  (6 children)

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          I did mean the former.

          This sub gets awfully circle-jerky about hating women, and also it gets pretty shitty toward homosexuals.

          I think of this sub as a place for men who are on the mission of becoming a better man.

          I come to TRP to challenge my view on the relationship between men and women. All of my views I try to constantly challenge, lest I become complacent.

          But as part of becoming a better man, I think removing negative shit from your life is important. And circle jerking to how much we hate women makes no progress.

          [–]through_a_ways 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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          and also it gets pretty shitty toward homosexuals.

          I can't remember seeing this, ever.

          Furthermore, IMO, the circlejerk is less about hating women perse, and more about hating women as they fit into the modern leftist view of what women should strive to be.

          [–]trpfieldreport 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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          You must have missed the thread the other day about a gay man asking for advice about how to apply TRP.

          While most comments were good, there were some assholes.

          [–]through_a_ways 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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          While most comments were good, there were some assholes.

          Isn't this defeating your initial point? If most were good, and some were bad, is it really different than any other web collective?

          Anyway, I'm not anti-gay or anything, but TRP very obviously doesn't apply to gay men nearly as much as it does to straight men, as both parties in a gay relationship have masculine sex drives, and more masculine cognition in general. I'd have to see what he asked about specifically.

          [–]3 Endorsed ContributorSkorchZang -1 points0 points  (2 children)

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          Here are just some things that progress bought us so far: gay rights (at the expense of everyone else) women voting (at the expense of overall reasonable policies) no fault divorce (at the expense of men, and their children caught in that bullshit) feminism (at the expense of feminine women and all men who love them)

          Think if someone was selling me more of that progress, especially for the TRP sub, I'd be like "No thanks".

          [–]trpfieldreport 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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          I don't agree with your first 2 points.

          -Protecting homosexuals under the same laws as everyone else isn't at the expense of everyone else. Do explain.

          -Providing the same human right to determine one's governance is progress. And I doubt you could provide anything more than your (more than likely uneducated) opinion on whether the policies are reasonable.

          Now, divorce law is fucking atrocious toward men. I think we all agree with this. And feminism has overreached itself (and is beginning to collapse in on itself).

          These are natural kinks to be expected. They will be worked out.

          The amount of homophobia I've seen in this sub is disheartening. Nobody is forcing you to put cock in your mouth and choke on it.

          [–]_JustKnight_ 15 points16 points  (3 children)

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          I don't understand this loving and protective way a lot of the guys on here talk about women. It sounds a lot like white knight behavior... they just try to thinly wrap it up with red pill lingo.

          There is no need to love, respect or be grateful of women anymore so than men. I am not saying we should antagonize them for no reason but no need to accept shitty behavior as acceptable. For every girl that is excellent company there is a nagging, complaining bitch to make up for it. Women are ordinary individuals born with the trump card of being in high sexual demand. Nothing more, nothing less.

          [–]trpfieldreport 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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          I say it that way because this sub devolves into a circle jerk of hating women all too often.

          This sub is about understanding the relationship between men and women. It's not about the superiority of men, it's about the difference of men.

          I'm not saying love them more than men, love them differently.

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          I don't understand this loving and protective way a lot of the guys on here talk about women

          Generally I agree with everything you have said, but this one turned out to be curious.

          The feeling of love a man experiences with a woman too is biological (the pair-bonding imperative to nurture the offspring), so how does this pair-bonding instinct manifest in you if not as a "loving and protecting way"?

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            [–]BluepillProfessor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            Maintain frame or lose the tingles.

            [–]redjujube 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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            Care to clarify your definition of solid, secure & stable in that comment?

            Solid as in frame? Secure as in financial security or simply "not insecure"?

            [–]djvita 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            financially stable, secure as in frame but in this context its both in frame. secure as she can depend on you, stable as in you'll laugh off her hamstering drama

            [–]jillsleftnipple 6 points7 points  (1 child)

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            Well said.

            [–]TaranK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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            Happy Cake Day friend :)

            [–]Lawgick 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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            EDIT: Deleted to make a thread instead

            [–]BluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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            Lots of anti-woman sentiment to be sure but anti-gay? Where? When? This sub welcomes all men, and even women, who have good ideas and tell the truth.

            [–]Lawgick 13 points14 points  (1 child)

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            100% agreement.

            Women see men as tools to be used for their benefit. The wisest move the modern man can make when it comes to women is ignore them while he is on his path. Stay focused, pump and dump, gather around you a group of honorable men and create strong bonds with them. They will be far more beneficial to you then almost any woman.

            No Homo.

            [–]PaulAtredis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            Women see men as tools to be used for their benefit.

            Man, this one hit home for me, having seen this with close friends and experienced it first hand.

            gather around you a group of honorable men and create strong bonds with them.

            I felt an immense sense of pride reading that. Having friends close enough that you consider them as brothers is the greatest feeling I've had. The bonds are alot more stable than those shared with a female. Alas without fail, over the years any time a close friend has began a relationship with a girl, it has caused us to grow apart. Truely guys I've known tend to think with their cocks, and disregard the important old adage.... I've never neglected my close friends, even in long term relationships.

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              [–]Neburel 11 points12 points  (5 children)

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              You speak of this, but you have no idea how true your words are. I know a few women that heavily involved in activism. They always speak of privilege and the suffering of the poor and the underprivileged in their public life, but in their private life they are some of the most malevolent women I have ever met.

              I went to a community college. There I met one Marxist-feminist woman, we'll call her Roxy. Roxy was generally nice to me, and since I was heavily involved in political philosophy, we'd always have conversations about economics and government etc. Roxy, to me, would present herself as a textbook bleeding heart liberal. However Roxy was totally vile and condescending to those she deemed below her.

              In a community college, you get a mixed bag of students - from competent smart people to people who generally struggle with learning. One day in a creative writing course I was in along with Roxy, a girl next to her had math work papers from a previous class. It was about basic adding and subtracting fractions. Roxy turned to me and straight ridiculed the girl for taking such a low level course. I was shocked to hear this. How could she, a defender of the distraught and disadvantaged, could ridicule a girl whom is seeking education to probably better her own economic situation. This wouldn't be the last time Roxy would share her fucked up opinions on certain people.

              For example, Roxy and I both belonged to the honor society in the college. All the honor students had access to a reading room just for us to use. We mostly used the room as a hangout spot. There would be this one student that would always come to the room hang out with the honor kids. We'll call him Russel. Russel was a big guy...like really big, but overall he was awesome to hangout with, he was older than most of us by almost a decade, and always had insightful and interesting things to say. Overall Rustle was beloved by almost all the honor students, except for....you guessed it. Roxy. Roxy being a fat woman herself, had no problem flat out telling me she didn't like Russel, because she generally didn't like fat people....yes a feminist, the kind that fights against body shaming in the female community and about how big women are sexier, decided to not like a guy just because he was fat. Fucking shameless.

              [–]MrsStrom 6 points7 points  (1 child)

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              Roxy is a cunt. I hope you told her so.

              [–]Neburel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              I let know how inconsistent her opinions were with her ideologies. I think the only reason she seemed open to my suggestions of checking herself was because she wanted to jump my bones.

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              Nice. I have a similar story.

              Lets call her C:

              C is very anti-capitalist, pro-sociaist. Watched a move on the banking crisis with C. Her remark? "I would love to marry a guy who got a $100m dollar bonus!"

              C is into the whole 'open-relationship' vibe via that Ethical Slut book. C has been in a LTR with a good guy but lives in a different country. Before C left she asked the guy to be in a open relationship, basically so she could hook up with people while she was studying. The guy has sex with someone while they are in this open LTR, C predictably freaks out and there is much drama.

              Women who seem to be the most principled of all, the most opinionated, truly, in fact have no principles at all. This is why its impossible to get a strict definition of what feminism is. It isn't anything.

              [–]Epicureanist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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              In todays world, liberals are fascists, conservatives are liberals, and fascism is dead.

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                  [–]TheAntiZealot 10 points11 points  (2 children)

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                  I can elaborate for him. A lot of us young American boys are raised to believe that women are special, beautiful snowflakes with hearts of gold. Mothers are the most benign and highly regarded woman. Young girls are the most precious children of all. That a woman's love is a salve to the man's natural, disgraceful condition. That only men can murder, be violent, be deceitful, be dangerous. That women are constantly victims of rape, wage-discrimination, stalkers, domestic abuse, and laws. Et Cetera.

                  Especially growing up without sisters... in a society that compares every woman to the flawless mother of Jesus... it's hard to imagine an unjustifiably angry woman.

                  We grow up imagining outselves willingly giving our lives to save any one woman. Fantasies... dreams of sacrifice and martyrdom for womankind.

                  It is the worldview of what is called the "white knight."

                  [–]redjujube 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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                  Reminds me of the plethora of questions on Yahoo answers about whether it is true that women never fart or defecate.

                  [–]TheAntiZealot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  Precisely. I used to think that women's restrooms were paragons of cleanliness by virtue of the fact that women used them and not men. And that men are more capable of lying than women.

                  [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (5 children)

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                  I predict this will go over better than another recent post that rustled jimmies.

                  Also, you should consider narrating an audiobook on your take of biblical stories.

                  [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 52 points53 points  (4 children)

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                  Alot of people didn't get my april fools joke. Maybe I should do a red pill bible audio book, starting with: Women Fucking Ruin Everything, a story of Adam and impulsive apple eating slut Eve.

                  [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

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                  Not one of your other posts. Just a recent one on TRP that was removed.

                  And, yes, please make it.

                  [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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                  Lol what post?

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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                  PM'ed it to you since the mods decided to remove it.

                  [–]sniperhiding 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  What post?

                  [–]tipofmywang 6 points7 points  (5 children)

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                  GLO, your stuff is always gold brother. One of my favorite aspects are the hilarious pictures you use, and this post was no exception. Now, I gotta ask, in the "modern western variety" pic, is that the bitches tits or her gut? It almost looks like they met somewhere in the middle to become some sort of titgut hybrid. Ugh...

                  [–]nrjk 7 points8 points  (2 children)

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                  They're tuts-tits+gut. This is similar to cankles (calf+ankles), gunt (gut+cunt), theet (thighs+feet (basically tree trunk legs that look like a swarm of giant bees sung your legs)) and armtits (where armpits and tits meet).

                  I would come up with more, but I've had some beer and am slowing down.

                  [–]tipofmywang 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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                  Now, wouldn't the gunt also qualify as a fupa(fat upper pubic/pussy area)?

                  [–]nrjk 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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                  Oh, yes.

                  "Fupa' has a nice rhythm to it. Two hard syllables followed by two soft sounds. The "P" sound really seals it. FoooPaaa-It just rolls off the tongue. "Gunt" is strong at the beginning and end, but fupa is fupa.

                  [–]_Just_do_it 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                  That's tit fo sho and I'm honestly curious how that can happen naturally.

                  [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  My interpretation of the image is that those are her tits.

                  [–]1 Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 6 points7 points  (3 children)

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                  Although I expected something on passive agression behind the title, this was nonetheless a good read.

                  I heavily recommend Esther Vilar's book The Manipulated Man(pdf) for further reading.

                  I'm ashamed the femnazi mob compeled her from my home country for telling the truth.

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                  Thank you so much, I spent the day reading The Manipulated Man. Although I first assumed it was written by a particularly misogynistic man, when learning the author was female I found the book to be extremely honest, bold and raw. Really opened my eyes!

                  [–]1 Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                  That were exactly my thoughts when I first read it. You are very welcome. :)

                  [–]logically_ 25 points26 points  (0 children)

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                  Next time you're driving around the city, take a look at the buildings. Without exception, men built every single structure you see around you. Not women, men. I'm still waiting to see the all female construction site. I'm not holding my breath.

                  So much for equality.

                  [–]asaspade5 18 points19 points  (3 children)

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                  Oorah, man...oorah...disregard females and acquire currency.

                  [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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                  I prefer knowledge and skills over money. What I can do and what I know are more valuable to me than what is in my bank.

                  [–]asaspade5 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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                  I didn't know they were so mutually exclusive. For me they are not one leads to another.

                  [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                  Not at all exclusive, but money often follows skills and knowledge provided its applied in a way that makes money. I prefer to focus on what I know and what I can do, money takes care of itself.

                  [–]jerdo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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                  GayLubeOil is fucking carrying this sub hard right now. Just stellar content. Always gets a laugh and a "he's so fucking right."

                  [–]1mr_throwz 7 points8 points  (2 children)

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                  I've worked a variety of jobs since I was 15 and without a doubt, there have been some lazy male workers and some real go-getter female workers. However I would say, on average, the females are far lazier than the male workers and are constantly trying to shove their responsibilities off on one of the men.

                  I'm pretty sure I could bone half the women I work with because I refuse to do their work for them and instead give them orders. The other day this girl asked me to clear her tables for her, I leaned towards her and put my hand on her shoulder and laughed out a "What?". She blushed and giggled and went to clear her tables. I waited a few minutes and walked over to her as she was clearing and put my hand on her shoulder again - "When you're done clearing your tables, I'm putting you in charge of cleaning up the bridal suite." And she fucking did it; she cleaned it, and when she was done, she came to me and asked me what I needed her to do next.

                  [–]TheAntiZealot 6 points7 points  (1 child)

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                  "Now suck my dick."

                  [–]3 Endorsed ContributorSkorchZang 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                  Corr blimey! That's the man's workplace, can't risk it all for some ho like that.

                  "Make me a sandwich." (said while thinking "suck my dick")

                  [–]newpopehere1 3 points4 points  (11 children)

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                  Ok so I was a white knight virgin till I was 22 and though women were unicorns and sex was evil.

                  2 years ago i took the red pill and started improving my life. I studied evolutionary psychology read books on biology, mating, sex, everything. I hit the gym gained muscle and started becoming a man of action. I stopped fapping and eating healthy. Still I have not gotten laid. WTF went wrong?

                  I dont go upto women and game them because I dont have the patience to do not nor am I interested. Now that I have increased my SMV why are not girls coming to me? Do i have to make all the effort and go chase them?

                  [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

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                  Your SMV may still not be high enough. I know it sounds rediculus after all of your effort. Iv had my shit together for the past 4 years but only now am I hitting the plate spinning jackpot.

                  [–]newpopehere1 2 points3 points  (6 children)

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                  What are you doing now differently than 4 years ago?

                  [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 7 points8 points  (5 children)

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                  I have had sex with 12 more women and have been in a 2.5 year relationship and have 40 more pounds of muscle on me. Im just generally a more experienced, confident well rounded person.

                  [–]newpopehere1 0 points1 point  (4 children)

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                  Good shit..40 pounds? Damn what program youre following and whats your diet?

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                    Doesnt that mean you have to take that for the rest of your life now?

                    [–]3 Endorsed ContributorSkorchZang 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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                    Why are you afraid of the approach game?

                    You're the man, you're going to be the one approaching 90% of the time even if your SMV is through the roof.

                    Based on the way you wrote that post, you need more personality, more funny/clever, and more carefree "world owes me nothing, but i'm fucking enjoying myself no matter what happens" attitude.

                    [–]newpopehere1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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                    I think im afraid of the approach because I do feel a slight against me if a girl rejects me. Also i feel im wasting time. I do know its a numbers game but i feel damn i could be doing something more valuable.

                    [–]3 Endorsed ContributorSkorchZang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                    The 15sec rule is a pickup classic for a reason. Rule is, the instant you lay your eyes on a woman you want, you have 15 seconds to start talking to her.

                    Consider, it's one stupid rule that could change your life, from the sounds of it. You're being weak and letting your inner demons talk you out of approach.

                    15secs isn't enough to think about anything, which is the whole point. You start moving and drop your load on her, whatever you have at the time, even if it's "hi" and that's all you got. And as for her response, nobody here gives a fuck what her response is, and you should be the top non-fuck-giver on that list. You just do you, let her do her!

                    [–]Idontlikekarmawhores 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                    This post is great, the part about the gym is SPOT ON. Bitches only come to be provocative (and use my damn jumping rope ). Gaylubeoil you are a MAN among bitches.

                    [–]pwrfull 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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                    Men find joy in creating value. Men are obsessive in this pursuit, whether by improving themselves, developing an idea or creating something. This obsessiveness is why men can spend years on a painting, waste months on a Minecraft creation or spend all of their free time in the gym. Men have a drive to create, invent, improve and innovate, which is why everything of value on this earth was thought of, invented, created and built by men. Its also why women's history is a joke.

                    This entire first paragraph. A+

                    [–]VirgoRooster 11 points12 points  (3 children)

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                    Still somewhat misleading in that women aren't going to just come to you if you're successful, just like DaVinci wasn't getting chased by the women of his day. You still have to approach if that's what you want.

                    Otherwise, it's definitely a good post. You must realize that your value comes from within. Don't seek external validation.

                    [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

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                    Pretty sure DaVinci was gay. Women will start taking to you about inanne bullshit once your SMV is at a certain point.

                    [–]csmass 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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                    I had a barista today apologize ten times for making me the wrong drink, insisting she remake a new one, and then kept apologizing to me starring me down. I am fairly certain she was ovulating. Her voice was high pitched compared to last week. All that hard work pays off. Shame she wasn't higher than an HB6 or I'd consider tapping it.

                    [–]bam2_89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                    DaVinci wasn't radiating success when he was alive though. And TBH, we don't know much about his personal life.

                    [–]coquio 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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                    Holy shit, OP. This is just what I needed to read before going to bed.

                    [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

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                    Let GayLubeOil tuck you in.

                    [–]crybannanna 6 points7 points  (1 child)

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                    I liked the images accentuating your philosophizing. Nicely done.

                    [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

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                    Thats the GayLubeOil trademark.

                    [–]LegitAnswers 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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                    Great post man. This is exactly why I posted what I posted on r/seduction. So many men don't realize that self-improvement is the key to getting laid.

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                    ah this is pretty good stuff. these posts give me some good food for thought. thank you.

                    [–]2lightfire409 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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                    An excellent description of the primary differences between male and female behavior! This shit is core red pill.

                    [–]ButterMyBiscuit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                    I'd say a more accurate phrasing would be "differences between feminine and masculine traits."

                    Tons of BP and beta men display a lot of the female traits and lack nearly all the masculine.

                    [–]theultimatewarriors 2 points3 points  (4 children)

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                    I don't create things because I want to create. I do them because I'm annoyed and frustrated. Plane and simple, my energy come from a focussed fury, or the excitement of an impending finish. I push mankind forward in areas because my brain can see how things can be better, and I want to seek that freedom, that feeling of conquering something. Same as an orgasm, I want that release. Fixing stupid shit people break is me taking care of my mental blue balls. (this is where I could wax philosophic about video games and other forms of fantasy being mental masturbation)... Man is progress, sure. But I don't give a fuck about anyone else. I don't do it for the rest of you. I do it from anger (the grind) or curiosity (how I find my passions) or obsession (the fight with whatever I'm doing). But I never am doing it for other people on earth. I'm exhausted at night because my brain is a monster, my body has pushed through all pain on it's march to conquering my world, my march to my own kind of freedom.

                    That's where women come in. Women take care of others. I hate most people. The woman I've chosen to date would take care of an animal like it was her own child. She cares for everything. She knows I'm a monster to myself, and she makes my environment at home a place for me to relax. She wants to help everyone she loves in every way she can. She works her ass off at it. It's a different kind of exhausting. It's a woman saying she's emotionally exhausted, and why they seek need affection from those they've made themselves vulnerable to.

                    My attention means working on things that push human kind forward. Her attention means nurturing everyone so that no one is left behind.

                    If a woman tries to be the human leader pushing forward, she'll fail and lose focus. She doesn't have the power of anger wish can override pain. Pain is emotional, I can avoid the emotional side and push through pain. She will need affection before she can push through the setbacks of pain. If a man tries to be the human who takes care of everyone in the world and be a hippy dude, he'll fail and lose focus. Man desires relaxing more than he desires taking care of someone. Taking care of someone requires patience, and man needs to get rid of his anger to have patience. Man leads, woman nurtures. Shitty men don't lead well, and shitty women can't nurture.

                    Both sexes also have the false paths. For a man, it's competition over bullshit that doesn't matter (thinking that beating someone at something pointless means he is a great man). For a woman it's thinking that attention or guys wanting to just have sex is the same as love (thinking that attention from a lot of guys that are just using her is the same as a lot of guys loving her or needing her).

                    TL;DR - Great men work towards freedom. Great women work towards affection.

                    [–]TheAntiZealot 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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                    What is it?!

                    [–]theultimatewarriors 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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                    Hah! Sorry! Edited it on my phone and somehow that didn't get erased. Instead of erasing it, I added onto the idea. Did that stuff make sense? The dichotomy in this sub for guys that get it and those who are missing it makes it really hard to flesh out whole ideas sometimes.

                    [–]TheAntiZealot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                    Yea, it makes plenty of sense. You're lucky to have an energetic woman.

                    [–]YourFoxyFriend 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                    Ah, the gap between boy and man and girl and woman.

                    You're going to run through many girls before you find a woman.

                    [–]IM_PRETTY_RACIST 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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                    I'm actually fine with her exercises, gayLubeOil

                    [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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                    You dont make money as PT i assume?

                    [–]IM_PRETTY_RACIST 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                    It was mostly a comment on how great her ass looks. Effectiveness is irrelevant.

                    [–]1rife_omeqa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                    Your contributions are always gold, GLO.

                    Pics are getting better and better, too.

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                    Very well thought out post, I'll give you that.

                    [–]lojoco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                    Meh, guys are the same in this regard, raising their own smv to obtain high profile women.

                    [–]tmpjb 1 point2 points  (9 children)

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                    Do your own thing and the women will come? I love this cute posts that turn the sub into r/theredhampster. This is our version of "just be yourself". The evidence you've provided goes against your own argument. Many of the greatest/most important men in history have been beta - just look at scientists and inventors. But they were still beta, or at most beta bux. Attraction is primitive for BOTH sexes! Game is just the art of incorporating other shit women find attractive with your words and body langauge. Therefore a physically fit man with game is at the top. In closed social groups game doesn't mean much, but since there are strangers everywhere faking until you make it works. And thanks to contraception sex can have no consequences. Casanova didn't cuckold nobility because he was higher ranked or "just being himself" He was a nobody compared to these guys, but he was attractive and had mad game. Change the world like Einstein, but I don't know of any women flicking their bean to his lectures. By all means, focus on your dreams. It's just retardedly foolish to think your dreams will line up with what women are naturally attracted to; especially in a sub dedicated to the hard truths. Go invent something amazing and get rich! Just don't be surprised when u turn beta bux.

                    [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 0 points1 point  (8 children)

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                    My thing was bodybuilding and the women came

                    [–]tmpjb 0 points1 point  (7 children)

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                    Your "thing" has the consequence of increasing your aesthetics. Don't try to extend that other pursuits. It's actually quite unbelievable if you think all hobbies/whatever are equally good in attracting women.

                    [–]ZR6X 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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                    Lmao @ Jen Selter standing on a dumbbell

                    [–]punis1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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                    I wonder what's it like to have your ass as your defining quality.

                    [–]Cate_Gary 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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                    I wrote the joke about women's history that was posted here. I meant it as a critique on how historians represent women, focusing on trivial nonsense instead of real accomplishments.

                    I'm a woman. The fact that my joke was cited to make the point that only men create things is hilarious.

                    [–]yourgfsthrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                    I cultivate mass

                    [–]RejectionEquality 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                    Who wants tea?

                    [–]theBergmeister 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                    Damn. Just damn...

                    [–]chakravanti93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                    s/ratchet/wretched

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                      [–]TheAntiZealot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                      I dont think this post is about individual women and their pursuits. It's about the majority of female personalities that young men encounter in public... on the specific topic of sex.

                      [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                      Its stupid bullshit anorexic yoga sluts as a rule have postural issues from musclar underdevelopment.

                      [–]somerandomguy376 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                      "I do these things for myself and not to attract men."

                      In my experience this is somewhat true. Girls will dress to impress other girls. Men are just another accessory to them to make their girlfriends jealous like an expensive purse. If a girl is dressed in tight yoga pants it's most likely to show off to the other girls how great her butt is and how easily it attracts HVM.

                      [–]RompeChocha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                      Great post man, the pictures cracked me up.

                      [–]BluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                      Kudos on the pics. Always important to document your claims.

                      [–]cooltrip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                      "The women will show up after you are a success"

                      He seems to disagree.

                      Also, you get success at an age when all women have hit the wall.

                      Sexual selection has defined "sexual success" as a pre-wall success; you ain't fooling Nature, bro.

                      But, anyway, YES, you are right: THIS is why she will help you a lot develop science, technology and progress.

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                      The weirdest thing to me are those gyms that have ellipticals set up in front of the windows. Could it be any more obvious?

                      [–]JGH8763 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                      Do you have any actual scientific evidence for any of this?

                      [–]XeroGeez 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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                      Hey, i'm new here and i've been lurking. I'm a blue piller or whatever you guys call them. Anyway, I'll preface this (Since it's my first post on the sub) by saying that i'm not here to cause trouble. i'm just interested in the way that this community thinks and how they arrived to those conclusions. Anyway, you said that everything of value on Earth is created by men, and i'm sure most commercial clothing designers are male. Sexualization of women by men is completely natural and you're bound to see at least glimpses of that sexuality when those men create a product for women, no? It's either wear more comfortable skimpy outfits, or be bogged down by baggy day clothing. Its just not as mobile, just the same as with men's work out clothing. I agree completely with your idea of forgoing sexual pursuits in favor of substantive goals, but i'm a bit confused by this subreddits stance on women. How biologically different do you guys believe them to be? It seems as though the common consensus around here is that the inner workings of a woman's mind are completely different from that of a man. (Once again, I mean no offense so nobody hop on your "beta pussy ass bitch" wagon and start running me down. I'm trying to get perspective)

                      [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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                      This belongs in purple pill debate.

                      [–]XeroGeez 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                      Would you mind answering in a PM or something then?

                      [–]heli_elo -1 points0 points  (6 children)

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                      Overall I agree, but I don't understand why women are being demonized for doing EXACTLY what men are being encouraged to do here. Women try their best (albeit through stupid ass avenues sometimes) to be attractive to men, and are heavily criticized for that. In the same breath, men are given the secret to being the most attractive they can be. Both sides are just trying to fulfill their biological imperative.

                      On the topic of careers, I completely agree. I work as a mechanic with all men and I cannot wait to get out of my contract. I grew up in my dad's garage so it isn't any lack of skill that makes me hate it, it's actually the men that detract from the overall effectiveness of women in the workplace. Older guys view me like some kind of twisted daughter figure, "oh, let me help you sweetheart!" or trying to develop an inappropriately friendly relationship despite large gaps in the rank between us. Young guys, i.e. white knights, cannot let me do my fucking job without tripping over themselves. I'll be carrying something moderately heavy from point A to point B, and a white knight will come out of nowhere about halfway through to help. It's absolutely, brain dead retarded.

                      TL;DR men are just as guilty of trying to get laid, it's just that the male tactics end in personal improvement. Also, my experience shows that it's the betas that make women in the workplace ineffective.

                      [–]BluepillProfessor 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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                      Women are lionized and congratulated by society for doing what they do while men are attacked. Only on this sub are women called out for what they do and you characterize that as 'being demonized.' Please...

                      [–]heli_elo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                      The alternative to the usual femnazi ideology is not extremism in the other direction. TRP isn't about stooping to that level, it's about moving beyond the damaging social stigmas that have been plaguing men for decades... I'm usually not very supportive of creating new ones.

                      I'm sorry that one comment is all you took away from my statement.

                      [–]3 Endorsed ContributorSkorchZang 1 point2 points  (3 children)

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                      Honey, you're spot on there, and I commend you for inventing this new idea! It's always been the mens' fault, they actually totally make women ineffective in the workplace!!!1

                      Those loser patriarchy creeps!

                      [–]heli_elo 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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                      It's a vicious cycle... Betas can't wait to show how helpful they can be, some women learn to expect this behavior, and round and round it goes. It's a social/cultural issue, not one gender issue. I didn't mean to imply the latter.

                      TRP definitely changed my outlook in many ways and I'm really thankful for having found this community, but I find myself more in the neutral zone of opinions and I try to bring that to these conversations. That said, I'm always open to broaden my understanding since gender culture is an issue that people experience in different ways. It's a big conversation to tackle, and my mind isn't closed to anything... I guess I'm trying to say that a more constructive critique of my comment would be more effective.

                      [–]3 Endorsed ContributorSkorchZang 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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                      Here in the Patriarchy, we don't critique women, we sexually oppress them.

                      Picture me this, a bunch of men coming to a preggo online forum for ladies where they discuss what pigs men can be.

                      And the gist of what these men post there in response is: "But women do it too!"

                      Can't do it? Me either. There's your critique.

                      [–]heli_elo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                      I could be wrong, but it's my understanding that this subreddit is about tackling the ineffective, damaging cultural expectations of men and how it effects their chances of getting laid. I don't think it's about bashing women and I actually think it's often about fixing the abysmal feminist movement, even if that part is by accident. I thought this sub was about making changes for the better, not about aimlessly bitching.

                      I'm saying we should discourage the betas (and obviously women) from hurting the TRP agenda. I just thought I should point out that women are largely delusional and hopelessly oblivious to the issues shared here... And that betas play a huge part in perpetuating this delusion.

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                        [–]YourFoxyFriend 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                        "BITCH I AINT GONNA DATE YOU, YOU'RE BLOWING STRANGERS!"

                        Same fucking thing happened to me. Girl was practically on my dick for a year, but I kept ignoring her until one time i was drunk and ran into her on the boardwalk. First time I even said hi to this girl and she gave me head about an hour later.

                        After, she said Id fuck you but you'd have to be my boyfriend. I laughed and said nah, but in the back of my mind I was thinking: "You blew me the first night you met me and you're starting to go steady with another dude, why the fuck would I want to date you?"

                        [–]through_a_ways -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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                        clothing, makeup, instagram selfies, parading around in front of horny dudes in gyms and clubs is all a means for women to attract men of value

                        If a guy showed up to the gym in a sports bra and yoga pants/shorts, he'd probably be arrested for indecent exposure

                        [–]entiat_blues -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

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                        i don't see how a completely subjective diatribe is anything more than manufacturing your own blue pill to swallow. placing yourself on a pedestal is no closer to reality than categorically placing women on a pedestal.

                        [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

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                        Im not placing anyone on a pedestal. Im involved with several different women and I love them all for who they are. However my expectations are low and realistic.

                        [–]entiat_blues 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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                        i guess i shouldn't have expected any less than self-delusion.