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[–]Overkillengine 221 points222 points  (21 children)

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And they'll hate you for making a rational decision in reaction to theirs.

Go for a woman younger than you because most of the suitable women in your narrow age bracket for decades decided to career chase and you wanted the best chance at healthy children? HATE

Decide not to gamble your life savings in a contract with someone who has a history of bad decision making? HATE

Choose to learn how to rapidly filter out unstable and unsuitable people from your life and relationships? HATE

They'll throw a tantrum, scream that it is not fair, try to blame it on misogyny and patriarchy, and then wonder why this place has threads promoting the idea of treating them like children.

Well, gee, maybe that's because they fucking act like it?

Edit: hot damn, more Gold, thanks!

[–]DrakeSaint 79 points80 points  (6 children)

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Grass is green, the sky is blue, alpha fucks, beta bucks. Upvoted for visibility nonetheless.

[–]Overkillengine 42 points43 points  (1 child)

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Sometimes you have to rephrase and repeat the same basic info when teaching before the little light flickers on.

[–]DrakeSaint 25 points26 points  (0 children)

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Completely agreed, specially since this week we had a huge influx of new subscribers.

[–]Snoopsta_g 12 points13 points  (2 children)

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The sky is does not have any color, colors are made up, just reflections of light. Philosophy makes me have some dark ass realizations. Alpha is an abstract concept. Thought is just a series of sodium/potassium gradients. Life is just some reactions that take place in fat enclosed sacs. But isn't the darkness of our existence the magic of it?

SO AFTER READING THIS IF YOU ARENT GONNA BE ALPHA AND A REAL COMPTON CITY G I DONT KNOW WTF YOU ARE DOING YOU WASTE OF PRECIOUS METABOLIC PROCESS AND PHOSPHOLIPID BILAYRES.

[–]through_a_ways 12 points13 points  (1 child)

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SO AFTER READING THIS IF YOU ARENT GONNA BE ALPHA AND A REAL COMPTON CITY G I DONT KNOW WTF YOU ARE DOING YOU WASTE OF PRECIOUS METABOLIC PROCESS AND PHOSPHOLIPID BILAYRES.

thin privilege is assuming that other people metabolize things

[–]Snoopsta_g 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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any chemical reaction is considered it be a metabolism

[–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Water is wet, roses are red

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    [–]OKJaded 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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    Young girls are more fun. Take a 21 year old home tonight, she ready to go have more fun tomorrow. Take a 30 year old home and listen to her bitch about her hangover for the next 3 days and how she wants to go to brunch.

    [–]Sufferix -2 points-1 points  (8 children)

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    I have an issue where my girl doesn't like to play games, but she also vehemently hates TRP. What do?

    [–]justatwinkle 8 points9 points  (6 children)

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    TRP doesn't appeal to women because it initially comes off as a little cultish and misogynistic. My boyfriend showed it to me because he thought it was ridiculous and I thought I would be offended by the posts. Then, as I read through, I realized that most (not all) of it was pretty true. A girlfriend of mine recently were talking about how we have all these shitty typical women feelings that we try not to act out on, but can always feel. Men and women are different. It's just a fact.

    Women tend to be driven by emotion, rather than logic and reason. A look at the Supreme Court decisions is pretty good evidence of that. Any time "women's rights" are mentioned in any context, you have all the female justices on one side before they even know what the hell they're voting on.

    Of course, there are always exceptions. Your girlfriend might read it and think, "well, that's not me!" She could be right. She might be an outlier. I know I'm not an outlier. I self consciously avoid being a "hamster" as you guys call them, but it has never been natural.

    Anyway, nobody likes to think that they fit in a category, so that may be why it bothers her.

    [–]Sufferix -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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    Is the ability to disassociate a male quality? I think she gets stuck with the AWALT. When I hear some feminist dribble about AMALT, I know it isn't true, can identify how I'm different if it was true (which then just invalidates it), and shrug it off.

    [–]imaterriblelurker -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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    Nah, everyone does that.

    If you want a family while young or an LTR you will get with someone who wants the same. Don´t kid yourself. The women rejecting you are the ones who KNOW you´ve been making bad decisions. They see you playing the field, and since you dont have the wits to even WANT to change you continue the whole short term relationship gameplay with bitches you want to have for an LTR. Of course they see through it and they reject you.

    You lack social currency, you chase your career now you are unapproachable and you become a prickish toddler when someone says NO to you.

    In all honesty, you get what you deserve. If you are the cream of the crop you will get with the other cream of the crop. Women who contribute to your personal growth, who inspire, encourage and want you to prosper and succeed because her and her children depend on it. Thats a real Alpha.

    In any case, I agree with you. No one should go with someone who has been making bad decisions, gambling away their youth for easy fun nor getting with unstable or unsuitable persons.

    [–]petite_squirrel 86 points87 points  (19 children)

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    I really just came hear after that bestof post that dissed your sub, but this makes a lot of sense. Might stay a bit.

    [–]Ob1Kn00b[🍰] 30 points31 points  (5 children)

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    There is the occasional bit of super-hate in this sub, but it's a minority, and from people that have just realized how messed up their lives are and are pretty damn angry about it. For the most part, it's a pretty great place to be.

    [–]Overkillengine 11 points12 points  (2 children)

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    Good old stage 2. Just wish some of the people that have been here a bit would grow the hell out of it, it's getting tiresome hearing them rant.

    [–]Ragu35 17 points18 points  (1 child)

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    It's part of the process. Most, if not all of us have been through it and it's a natural reaction to learning this kind of information for the first time.

    It's annoying when people don't move past that stage though.

    [–]TurgidMeatWand 25 points26 points  (0 children)

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    The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off."

    [–]boydeer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    it seems to be in a lull right now, both here and in my life, which is nice.

    [–]Dream4eva 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    True, I advise people to look up the 'Men aren't happy' post. It's one of the great forays into TRP.

    [–]smile_e_face 51 points52 points  (4 children)

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    I think a lot of people find this place because people bash it elsewhere on reddit. I visited to see how "horrible" it was after someone ranted about it on /r/AskReddit a couple weeks back. Turns out it's pretty great information. Honestly, it would behoove TRP's enemies to just shut the hell up about it.

    [–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

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    bitches don't know about the Streisand effect

    [–]daktardoom 15 points16 points  (1 child)

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    Same here. It's only when you see things from another perspective that you realize what an idiot you've been.

    [–]Sturmgeist781 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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    Can't see the forest for the trees...

    Happens to the best of us. That's why we are here and that's all that matters.

    [–]whyalwaysm3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    Yeah but let's be honest and realistic here. "Majority" of Reddit probably has horrible experience with girls. I mean everyday I cringe at some of the things I see guys write. It really doesn't surprise me though that "TRP" is misunderstood.

    Think about it. When you go out in public, do you see every guy saying the perfect words, acting out the perfect body language, mesmerizing woman after woman? No you don't. You see the majority of them are absolutely CLUELESS as to how to behave around women. They think yelling loudly and perking your chest at nightclubs will attract women. Then realization hits them the next morning when once again they're passed out on their bed with some lotion and Kleenex.

    So if we look at society in general, we shouldn't be surprised that "TRP" is misunderstood. Most of the men in society are absolutely terrible with women. Of course some get lucky and find that one girl who will date the first guy who's nice to her. Some happen to get lucky and find a woman who's just like them. And the majority end up with a woman who controls them and the direction of their relationship.

    So it doesn't surprise me that Reddit hates on "TRP" because Reddit is a reflection of society and the majority of men aren't "TRP" no matter how hard they tried to be.

    When it comes to being a man who's good with girls, you either get it or you don't, and sadly the majority of men just don't get it.

    [–]SirNemesis 24 points25 points  (3 children)

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    Some of the complaints of hatred are valid. A lot of angry and hurt men have nowhere else to vent so the come to TRP and vent their anger by complaining about women. This is grudgingly tolerated, as men need to have an outlet somewhere.

    Nevertheless, the more mature TRP commenters avoid anger and hatred, and contribute to quality discussion here without making extreme generalizations.

    [–]Ididerus 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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    IMO, this is the biggest criticism from womynz, creation of an outlet for men and its sustainment. Feminism has for a long time been successful in crushing any male-space from existence, their inability to do so with r/trp causes them no end of angst. It also explains the continued harpy cries (or as u/RPS would call it, free advertisement), having been rewarded for screeching in the past the child will continue unabated.

    [–]PhoenixRising8 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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    your holding healthfully expressed anger as a problem. TRP is a okay place to vent this. get a life. learn to find compassion. your cry like a baby when you learn certain truths about life. other truth can crush you mind, literately. I understand awkward is a go to world that minimizes darker and deeper feelings. young people today are friendly and snarky. snarky is the new anger that yet to be demonized. complaints about hatred are manipulative and create anxiety rather than good venting. man up. p.s. i've told you how i felt about this. direct and non snarky. if you want a gold star…. okay i wont say it…it was going to be snarky, lol-

    but ive had a million women tell me how bad anger was. i then went to therapy for years. did lots of shamanic healings and trained my subconscious mind with treating ptsd. Im very healthy now and what I see every day is healthy men or repressed men. I also see bitter, angry, loud mouth, know it all women exploding in micro expressions of dominance and rage. after many years of being told to be assertive, many women just act like pouting angry cops who are flippant and narcissistic. Its not a put down. If I were to insult them I would speak differently. To name it is to claim it. Many men called chumps are not chumps. There helpful people who for 5, 10 or 20 years of living as a adult didn't question authorities. Were all guilty of this in certain categories of life. To insult it is truly insensitive to self for it only more powerfully retards are next learnings about self evolutions. I am a man more wrong then most because I am a man who's transformed more than most. When you've transformed allot, you start to go light for you most certain footsteps upon reflections can be far from the mark of excellence. Released anger is room for love. PEACE-

    [–]theredpillager 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    I'm guessing English isn't your first language. I think it is awesome that we have men from the far corners and reaches of the planet participating in the conversation here. This fact provides further support and evidence that TRP truths are real. When they can be seen in first world countries, mostly western, around the world, it is harder to deny them.

    [–]cbarrett1989 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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    Please do. Theres a lot to be learned here. Ill admit that sometimes you grt the "fuck everything and women ill go build model ships" but those are few and far between. Welcome.

    [–]hermit087 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    Thank you for being open minded. I'm pretty sure most who diss this sub never spent much time actually reading anything here.

    [–]tigolbittiez 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    As you can see, a lot of the bestof post was either inaccurate or entirely wrong. We don't advocate emotional abuse against women, here. Unfortunately, the hivemind is pretty overwhelming. So much so, that the guy got gilded close to 50 times, last I checked, just for sharing a misinformed opinion on why TRP is "bad" and nobody should subscribe to it.

    [–]ADrunkenmonkey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    Welcome. Take a look around I'm sure you'll find something you like

    [–]mscleverclocks 25 points26 points  (1 child)

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    This is an amazing portrayal of history. And thank you for pointing out that these girls are not only selfish and wrong, but they're disrespectful to the amazing, strong, feminine women who came before them. My grandmother moved to several different countries to support my grandfather with his career and they raised me when I was young! That's the main reason I will never respect a feminist, because they don't respect anyone.

    [–]smokingtransistor 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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    Yep feminine - good, feminist - bad. I once told this to one of my coworkers, she was upset, almost like i called her bad words. I do not desire a feminist woman if these dysfunctional ladies want to be desired they better start learning how to be feminine, pronto !

    [–]HalfAsianBob 34 points35 points  (14 children)

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    Never, never, never marry a woman who fucked around in her past. You'd be hard pressed to even marry a non-virgin. Why?

    Why the fuck would you be stupid enough to marry a woman that wouldn't have wanted you when she was in her sexual prime? Not only that, but she would have attacked you verbally if you had even tried to go out with her; "too short," "too nice," "too Asian," "too white," etc. Then these cunts have the NERVE to come back once they realize that they're too old to keep playing their games trying to find a wallet to support them long after they've lived out their value in the world (but value only to alpha dick). I'd rather live alone with a couple dogs than be one of these savage cunts who live and breath lies and double standards. Let these whores have their world, their world of bad boys and Jeremy Meeks and Elliot Rodgers.

    [–]surgeon_general 17 points18 points  (2 children)

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    I strongly agree with the premises of what you're saying. I feel that if you want to go to a healthy next level, you have to accept this as reality, and try not to be bitter about it. Basically, come up with the best personal strategies you can, and try to enjoy life.

    It's part of why this subreddit focuses on self-improvement so much. The greater of a man you become, the more options open up to you. You don't have to sit there bitterly "alone with a couple of dogs." You just... don't marry those girls. And you ain't even mad. :)

    [–]ilphae 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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    I totally agree with the Surgeon General on this point. While I don't disagree with you, negativity and angst is poison that will destroy you from the inside.

    You must find a way to be positive in thoughts and actions.

    Regarding sexually active women: You shouldn't hate on them, man. Enjoy their company and appreciate their good qualities. These women make the world a happier place. (in short, you gotta let a ho be a ho.)

    DON'T marry them.

    Additionally, I recommend challenging yourself regarding your preconceptions of your own hopes and dreams. Sit down and write out a list of what you want and where you will be in 5 years. How many of these items came from Disney movies, historical accounts of how a person should live, or your parents desires for you? Then, decide if that is okay with your or if you want to change your goals.

    Finally, let go of past hurt and GET UP.

    (I mean this as general advice, not only directed at you.)

    [–]PhoenixRising8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    yeah dude. only after the grieving and righteous anger naturally heal. true poets feel rage. little boys have anxiety. rage up and clear up the lost grieving inside.

    saying self hep as so simple as make yourself better and move on is to provide no fraternity to the attacked. I'll cut someone off for complaining for too long but there is a unwisdom in telling people to just knock off the negativity when there healing out societal lies. Were all the same except for how were different. Bruce Lee communicated about how different people release emotion after a fight or battle. Some act stoically while some cry, yell or rant. Others are unaffected, relieved, proud or happy. Still a few other jones for blood and sex of killing. All responses are natural and healthy. In time though the harder working evolve spiritually and and are more at peace despite said battles. The emotion of self evolution cannot be condemned without thwarting its psychic progress. IE cry less and get more cluttered inside. Repress anger and get more stiff.

    IMO your well intentioned in likening higher states of personal evolution. The process of being the Warrior is only one stage with Poet & Magician as also world into themselves...

    [–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    And also the likelihood of divorce more than doubles if the woman has had any premarital sex.

    I think that's a pretty good reason but then again maybe I'm prolly just a sexist racist homophobic antisemite.

    I read about internet privacy and use incandescent light bulbs, so I'm probably some kind of terrorist. You shouldn't take advice from me.

    [–]PhoenixRising8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    yes bro, great vent. when your ready, go after hoty's and be wise n fully selfish. seams that your kindness was dissed-played to bad ends. The ladies in question suffer from bitterness and resentments and harshness expressed too much. Its soul rotting for them. You on the other hand are free of that desire to harm and hate people to there face. I get your vent and I enjoyed / respected it. Ive had some harsh women attack me for simple things of kindness, too! And as my big 100lb rescue pitbull sleeps on my lap I laugh and smile…. Yeah hes a boy and has his balls. hahahaha.

    money = handsome
    fit = nice
    strong = cool
    fun = entertaining
    game = challenge
    silence = mystery
    sharing = connect

    let the ratios be adjusted Half Asian Bob not too heavy on one or the other… and you'll have a new and great time with a younger chick or chicks you really really like and better yet you'll be a good source of there man fix. If some come and go, your still the source of man joy for many women and when you can apply the male make up of above in good ratios [ever see a chick fuck up her make up??? wrong ratios. same same goes for male make up of personality imo]… outside of this... certain happiness studies, support groups or coaching's might be needed for full inner healing / recovery. In the end, your happiness and empowerment is the penultimate revenge on low class chicks!

    Blessed BE-

    [–]charlie_gillespie -2 points-1 points  (7 children)

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    Why the fuck would you be stupid enough to marry a woman that wouldn't have wanted you when she was in her sexual prime? Not only that, but she would have attacked you verbally if you had even tried alto go out with her; "too short," "too nice," "too Asian," "too white," etc.

    Not all of us are incels... some of us are actually fucking these women, do you realize that?

    Expecting a virgin is naive and foolish. Good luck with that.

    [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (6 children)

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    I got a 21 yr old virgin when I was 34, tall, thin, intelligent, OK tits, but very plain looking face. It can happen, but holy fuck is it rare. My daughter tells me she started when she was 13, and that most of her friends were a year before her, so its not likely to happen with women under 30 now.

    [–]charlie_gillespie 1 point2 points  (5 children)

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    Why would you even want a woman with no sexual experience...?

    Every virgin I've had has been terrible in bed and incredibly awkward in general.

    I could understand wanting a woman with few partners (ie. less than 10), but a virgin? I think that's retarded and unrealistic.

    [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (4 children)

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    Why? Because I can teach, and both virgins I had managed to do something my slut first wife couldn't do, and they did it on their very first try. They somehow were above to suck me off and neither had ever seen a dick before. One was an Arab from Dubai, the other was quite plain, introverted, shy, and nobody in her small town was interested in her. They are out there, and they fuck like everyone else, but they are usually a clean slate and have had time to develop all sorts of interesting fetishes if they are over 20 and haven't had their cherry popped yet.

    The many sluts that wandered through my bed were far less attentive, had their own way of doing things, and experience doesn't matter much when they are simply bad at some things, like giving head.

    Virgin, slut, whore, married, single, has a boyfriend, whatever, they all make nice plates, they all fuck someone, it might was well be me. Are you still wanting to get married or something? That's the last thing you want to do.

    [–]charlie_gillespie 0 points1 point  (3 children)

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    both virgins I had managed to do something my slut first wife couldn't do, and they did it on their very first try.

    Not all sluts are as dumb as your ex wife, and most virgins are not as adventurous as the ones you described. They are virgins for the very reason that they aren't adventurous.

    Are you still wanting to get married or something? That's the last thing you want to do.

    No, and what is the relevance?

    [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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    Did you really just pull NAWALT out of your ass? Its obvious you missed the point entirely. Not much experience with women eh? It might be that you think virgins are more difficult than sluts, sometimes that's true, but she is going to fuck someone, might as well be you.

    Maybe the difference is you're not dominant in bed, you don't make them do what you want, you 'make love' rather than hate fuck them, or maybe you have never been laid. I will fuck almost any willing female provided she is attractive enough, virgin, slut, whatever. The only difference is if there is a pop the first time or not. Virgins can be fun, its not a waste of time and its not any more retarded than fucking sluts. I swear, kids these days, spouting feminist nonsense and not even realizing it.

    [–]charlie_gillespie 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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    You say that sluts are bad in bed, and my disagreement is NAWALT...?

    [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    I said some sluts can't suck a dick, some have a natural talent for it and they might be virgins. The amount of experience she has is irrelevant to me, she will have plenty when I am done with her.

    [–]CptDefB 16 points17 points  (0 children)

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    This was a great read.

    Read of the day for certain.

    [–]2asd1100 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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    I would ad that the state of men has declined because society allowed single mothers to raise children without any(reasonable, non propagandistic) models of masculinity therefor for all intents and purposes, the resulting men are politically and culturally feminist.

    [–]hermit087 9 points10 points  (14 children)

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    The highest echelons of men were able to survive the onslaught due to their high status/wealth/good looks/natural dark triad personality.

    That's a brilliant line, and sums up pretty well why men in charge of media and government keep pushing the blue-pill narrative.

    [–]opanchor 2 points3 points  (11 children)

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    Wait, why would men in charge of media (men in high status) want to push the blue pill narrative if they know it hurts other men? Surely we're all in this together?

    [–]1 Endorsed Contributorjsl2837 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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    Human society is nothing more than a monkey hierarchy, and everyone else wants you at the bottom.

    -- /u/The_PUA_Punanny

    http://redditlog.com/snapshots/778225:

    Unfortunately, most guys have no self worth other than what they get by proxy from a girl.

    This is what The Red Pill is all about -- unlearning all the many ways society has programmed you to feel bad about yourself, and dropping them like a bad habit (they are literally bad habits, as in habitual ways of thinking that are emotionally destructive).

    People bludgeon you emotionally as you are growing up, and they hand over the stick as you learn to do this yourself, with the result that long after they are dead and gone you keep beating yourself up, carrying on their dirty work. And it's not even by design -- they are just acting out their own dysfunction, totally unaware of anything but the needs of the moment to vent their negativity on someone else.

    These are negative emotional memes, like annoying commercials that get stuck in your head. Once you clear them out of your mind, it's very quiet in there.

    It doesn't matter what the rest of everyone else you know told you about yourself; they only fooled you into thinking they had some type of authority. In reality, they only have as much power as you give them, and you can take it away at any time with no negative repercussions. In reality, they had no idea what they were talking about, and were just projecting their own issues on others.

    Monkeys have the same type of social structure. The kids of the higher-status ones beat up the kids of the lower-status ones, so that by the time they are adults, the lower-status ones know their place.

    This seems cruel, but it has a very important function: In case of famine, if there's only enough food to feed, say, two monkeys, it should go to one male and one female, in order to continue the species/group/genes. There has to be some way to sort this out in advance.

    Why? Because imagine the alternative: All the monkeys get an equal share, of 2 servings divided 20 or 100 ways, and everyone starves to death together almost as quickly. It's better to keep a few strong than let everyone get weak and die. If there's enough for 10, then save the 5 highest-ranking pairs. Whatever it takes.

    And that's not even counting fights. Social status means that the monkeys know their place, so they will put up with a LOT of hunger before they will try to challenge the higher-status monkeys. And by that point, they are too weak to be effective, because they have been starving and the higher-status monkeys have been eating the whole time.

    So you see, ALL the social nonsense we all grow up with and are surrounded by every day of our lives is a remnant of the fact that the survival of any given group of people was precarious for almost all of human history.

    Every single thing boils down to jockeying for being the higher monkey who gets to eat first or only, when the food is scarce.

    This is why billionaires keep trying to get more money. Because maybe only the #1 guy will survive, if the shit hits the fan.

    And if something went wrong and instead of 5 males and 5 females surviving a disaster, you got the 9 strongest males and 1 female, it's about jockeying to be the monkey that gets mating access.

    Go look at a list of the richest people in the world. You could kick the shit out of any of them in a fair fight. You and many other people are just as smart as them or smarter.

    Same thing with the top monkeys. There's nothing special about them. So how do they stay on top?

    By convincing you to stay on the bottom! If they can convince you to doubt yourself, their work is essentially complete. You will never challenge them for anything. They win every fight because they convince the other guy not to show up.

    They trick you into buying into consensus -- the unwinnable situation where you need to gather everyone's approval before acting, except nobody agrees on anything. Or they have been media-manipulated into agreeing on a position that is automatically disempowering for you to adopt.

    Meanwhile, the people at the top ignore all of the opinions of those below them. Just like the monkeys at the top. They just act, and bully everyone below them into compliance.

    [–]thegman84 7 points8 points  (1 child)

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    why would men in charge of media (men in high status) want to push the blue pill narrative?

    Because it helps them maintain a monopoly on pussy.

    [–]through_a_ways 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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    Because it helps them maintain a monopoly on pussy.

    I think you're ultimately correct, but not directly.

    Powerful men probably don't promote feminism consciously thinking that it will let them score more easily.

    The reason they promote feminism is because:

    1) it's economically advantageous. Women are bigger consumers than men, and it wouldn't surprise me if women consumed goods with higher markups (clothing, purses, etc.)

    2) it's politically advantageous. Let's face it, there's a reason that the discussion spheres about topics like cryptocurrencies, internet privacy, libertarianism, etc. are overwhelmingly male. Women are easier to convince, are more submissive to authority, and are less likely to resist the status quo.

    3) It creates a larger supply (and thus lower price) for workers. This is another economic thing, just like the first point. If instead of getting shacked up by the early 20s and becoming a stay at home wife, a woman decides to work for herself and sleep around, she is lowering the price of labor.

    So basically, feminism means cheaper employees, less thrifty consumers, more controllable political opinions, and less political resistance? What section of the population would this benefit?

    But the thing is, all that economic and political klout that feminism bestows among powerful men eventually translates into financial/material wealth. And all of that eventually translates into better survival of their offspring (maybe while fucking a few whores on the side too)

    [–]alfredo_linguini 3 points4 points  (5 children)

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    Surely we're all in this together

    Survival of the fittest sir. The strongest are only 'in this together' with other strong men. Only the strongest will get to breed, and the bitter truth is...not everyone will breed.

    [–]opanchor -1 points0 points  (4 children)

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    Then why is Redpill founded? Why aren't the alpha males pushing the blue pill here, trying to create even more space for themselves?

    [–]EqualityForJunkies 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    Many possible reasons... It's a diverse gentleman's club.

    Some eventually stop contributing, there is probably a process where people stop being so active because the messages are getting clearer and clearer as days go on.

    I'm sure there are many reasons for being a quality contributor here, some do it as part of their purpose to change the world against feminism and welcome any challengers, and some think the best way to stay relevant and skilled is to teach your skills and get feedback. Maybe others are firm believers that the best way to teach is allow more people to learn it on their own without forcing the connection.. Take your pick.

    [–]alfredo_linguini 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    Why aren't the alpha males pushing the blue pill here

    Let's be real mate. Of all the guys who try to spread the RP word, how many genuinely want to help (being a nice guy) and how many just want to show the world that they know some shit (stroking the ego)?

    [–]1 Endorsed Contributorjsl2837 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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    The sociopaths have bigger fish to fry. They overcame the hurdle of women long ago. They would be more interested in things like financial investments and climbing the corporate/political ladder. Those have more useful return to them.

    If you are a dedicated poster on an internet board that very few people care about, you are probably intellectually honest at least. Why else would you sacrifice your time to be here, if you are not pushing the truth or learning useful knowledge. So lying about what works (pushing the blue pill) would be repugnant to you.

    Also, the best way to suppress an idea is to ignore it. This is the solution to the Streissand Effect.

    They did let the radfems attack the red pill. If the radfems win, good. If not, there's a good chance we'll be tarred by association as gender extremists. At the very least, it is 'divide and conquer' in action.

    Men open to red pill ideas are in the minority. (I say men because men need this more than women. Female game = be nice and look pretty. So even if females are interested in TRP, it's only on an intellectual level.) The Internet serves another purpose for the majority of men. It keeps them comfortably numb with porn and videogames.

    Second, go to other boards, and you will have women and white knights losing their marbles at you or laughing at you together for saying the stuff we say here. Ignorance, inertia, ego-defenses, group shaming, and female solipsism at work.

    All these factors are 10x more effective than taking direct action against TRP.

    [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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    Because we know that there is no shortage of willing females, but we know ,in who can't get any, and some here were those men who couldn't get any women. Its not so much competition when you realize how many girls there are, there are plenty to go around, so why not help other men get laid?

    Its a means of the system self balancing. It has an effect on society when men start checking out, not getting married, and not living by the bullshit we have been fed all our lives. Eventually it will change to something more balanced, and this is part of the process. Get divorce raped and you will warn others about it. Go to jail for a false accusation and you will warn others about falling into the same trap.

    The way women are acting is changing how we react to them, with good reason. They hold all the power in a marriage, because the laws are designed to benefit them when the union dissolves, thus there is very little downside to women ending a good relationship on a whim, they can find another beta to pay for everything easy enough. Nobody told us how fucked we were going to be when she decides to ride strange dick and take half the shit we earned while she sponged off us. We tend to tell others about it, so they can avoid the same pitfalls.

    [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    It keeps them in charge. How do you stay in a position of power that you have taken by force, or are insecure about keeping? Keep others down or get rid of them entirely. History is rife with men who seized power then held it with an iron fist, killing off anyone who would be politically capable of taking it from them. If you teach other serfs that it is good to be complacent, don't fight, don't defend yourself, to supplicate to authority rather than challenge it, you won't have them storming your gates to take over nearly as often.

    Sometimes it is well thought out and includes trusted members, sometimes it isn't a conscious plan but it sort of develops the same way because that is how humans are. Keep everyone else down so I can have mine, and keep it.

    [–]tallwheel -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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    You forgot the /s at the end of that.

    [–]PhoenixRising8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    yes great thread were on here but meant the top wanted blue pill because its wonderful for employers. women love authority. work long hours. bounce out for babies. negotiate horribly for wages [they suck at it]. except lousy prospects for career and can be told there great and believe it while getting hosed on "career crack saying like"… "im a big girl now, career and all".

    again. women more obedient to authority. work for cheaper. many to higher. except company slogans like person mantras. wont start rival companies when mis treated - would rather complain and ask for more polite language and a extra benefit rather than strike or again, open up rival company with new industry knowledge.

    also add to this. split homes mean more sales of stuff. not one fridge for a couple. rather two fridges for two singles. this times everything. lastly if your lady wanted a $2k purse you gonna buy it for her???? maybe. but she will certainly buy it for her self. single women spend more than women is families or tight relationships.

    these are basic reasons feminism rules today in many places. there are other deeper reasons but Im not going to speak about it here. you can think about it and watch THE CENTURY OF SELF by Adam Curtis and look between the lines. Its fascinating. Worthy of any seeker of truth. Blessed Be-

    [–]tallwheel -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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    If anything, I would go further than OP. The highest echelons of men not only survived, they helped to push the feminist agenda forward by granting what they saw as women's collective demands (feminism), and throwing lower men under the bus.

    [–]The-Pussy-Whisperer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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    I love waking up to fucking awesome posts like this. TRP is easily the best sub on Reddit.

    Great post!

    [–]Dream4eva 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    To them, the choice of not getting what they want = sexist

    Really liked this summary, for reasons what men want doesn't seem to factor into anything.

    [–]PersonalTriumph 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    "Hence, Feminism was born from the greasy and cellulite-infested loins of bitter & unvalidated females."

    Freaking brilliant. Best turn-of-phrase I've read in a long time.

    [–]super-nsfw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    This makes a lot of sense, nice writeup.

    [–]a_chill_bro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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    I love this post. I love TRP. That is all.

    [–]BluepillProfessor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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    Rush Limbaugh summarizes this with his "Undeniable Truth of Life #24: "Feminism was created so as to allow unattractive women easier access to mainstream society."

    OP left out that this was the plan of the fuglies from the beginning. They sat down with the Bildeburgers and the Trilateralists and the Communists at a round table about 1962 to figure out how they can destroy the West. From where I sit it sure looks like they succeeded.

    [–]whowhathuhumm 7 points8 points  (11 children)

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    Good synopsis, one glaring error though, undesirable women weren't the source of feminism, you can see this from well known original feminists being attractive in their day. Look into the roots of feminism and their leaders.

    [–]16 Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 33 points34 points  (3 children)

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    Mmm, I'm not sure about that. Your own picture shows a lot of plain-looking feminists. My personal recipe for how to make a feminist is as follows: surplus of free time, moderate intelligence and lack of sexual power.

    Take a woman with a moderate level (slightly above average) of intelligence, she'll be able to distinguish men smarter than her and men dumber than her, and therefore understand that men's intelligence is contributing to their desirability. She'll see men respect other men for being smart, and want this kind of respect.

    Now remove sexual power, perhaps even later in life (some feminists started being feminists when they started aging, i.e. lost their sexual power over men), and men are no longer interested in her and what she has to say. Since she's only moderately intelligent, her ideas don't really stand on their own merit even if she think she's really smart.

    Finally, add lots of free time and economic comfort, and suddenly she's able to ruminate all of this and resent men for not having the sort of power she thinks she deserves. She'll start picking up all the ways in which women are disadvantaged (while conveniently ignoring the ways in which they have the upper hand) and will put it into words that make other women feel that oppression.

    Your remark about a lot of them being jewish is true, but before we talk about a conspiracy, let's just realize that jewish women were simply more likely to have the three ingredients I listed. They had a higher level of economic comfort and certainly lots of time off, they were educated and usually above average in intelligence, and if they didn't start ugly, they certainly got old like every other woman.

    [–]Overkillengine 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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    Good example of correlation is not causation.

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      I don't know if that had any impact on the question at hand. Jewish women themselves preferred (or were made to prefer) Jewish men, so they still got their pick of high status partners. I think I forgot to include "no husband or unattractive husband", but that really would be a symptom of them not having enough sexual power.

      [–]Ididerus 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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      I always understood feminism to be stemming from these roots and further back (sufferagists).

      [–]through_a_ways 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      Goddamn, why do they have to be so ugly?

      [–]FA_in_PJ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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      Your hypothesis is that Feminism is a Jewish conspiracy to take down Western civilization?

      Oy vey.

      [–]aciliusoperatorx -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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      I just finished watching David Pakman's and Cenk Uygur's response to the teenagers murdered in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and then I see the "leaders" image. You can never get away from religion. Time to watch some Christopher Hitchens debates.

      [–]Captain_Self_Promotr -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

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      It's all relative. They just have to be not attractive enough to get the man they desire and attractive enough to pull the strings of lesser men (and women) to get what they want. Nobody listens to a fatty-- agreed, but if the hottie had alpha commitment should wouldn't have gone on a fem rage.

      [–]re-rebuild 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      "They just have to be not attractive enough to get the man they desire"

      The never-ending pull of hypergamy.

      [–]through_a_ways 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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      to not get* the man they desire

      [–]Scarlett_Begonias 3 points4 points  (2 children)

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      Do you think the feminine vs masculine dynamic that you describe is really necessary for everyone? I don't know if I'm just weird or what, but in my relationships I've always played a role that was either more stereotypically masculine or a good mixture of the "feminine" and the "masculine." (I'm female.)

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        Exactly, I do think that's the key. Though I didn't mean masculine and feminine as far as who dominates. I don't like to wear the pants, I just like to be in charge of myself. I was specifically thinking about things like the gatekeeper idea... I've always been averse to commitment in general, so in my relationships the whole sex-for-commitment exchange just doesn't happen. My attitudes towards a lot of things, including sex and dating and whatnot, are much more like typical male attitudes than female. Also I'm the initiator in almost all my relationships. I don't wait around for the guy to guess that I'm interested and come to me. So I don't mean anything extreme like I'm the top dog of the relationship or something Iike that, though I have been the "provider" in several relationships, which I did think was rather wrong.

        [–]daktardoom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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        An interesting approach. I'm curious as to what this means in practical terms.

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          [–]Overkillengine 17 points18 points  (0 children)

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          Intelligence is a serious bonus past the minimum average requirement, but it is not enough to override a serious penalty elsewhere.

          She can be smart as a whip but comes with crippling physical ailments and that still makes her a poor reproductive prospect.

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            [–]explodingham 2 points3 points  (3 children)

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            Beauty is great but seriously if she can't hold an intelligent conversation she's not fuckable, or marriage material. Despite her genes for good looks the lack of a brain makes her no better than an average looking girl with average intelligence. Trust me, was dating a girl who was a easy 9 ( she modeled) but ended it because there was very little past her awesome body. This was during my time as a beta too but after I dumped her I unknowingly at the time discovered the redpill. Yes I agree though, beauty will always win against a ham planet. ( love this term btw)

            [–]manwhy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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            I think there may be a specific subset of men who value intelligence more than others. I have a gut feeling that such men may be more intelligent and have more intelligent children, on average.

            [–]manwhy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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            I think there may be a specific subset of men who value intelligence more than others. I have a gut feeling that such men may be more intelligent and have more intelligent children, on average.

            [–]uncletom40 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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            I think as long as she's quiet and submissive, the dumber the better. I'm not interested in having "intelligent conversations" with women.

            Problem is I don't want dumb kids, so I guess I'm going to have to find an intelligent woman.

            [–]itsarusko 3 points4 points  (27 children)

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            I agree with your point of view. I am MUCH more attracted to a smart / attractive / RP (she knows her worth, she is confident in her self) women.

            But it's weird, because this opinion always gets me down voted in /r/theredpill, it seems like people her prefer the young stupid girls. I'd say most likely because they are easier to get. And it's fucked up, because the people HERE, even the mods SHAME you for prefering slightly older (23-26) y/o girls who are actually smart! That's the same thing as feminists shaming girls for liking guys who are actually fit

            [–]JohnGalt316 16 points17 points  (9 children)

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            dumb girls don't become smart as they age

            a smart girl at 26 was smart at 20

            don't confuse age or education with intelligence

            critical thinking is key here. can she look at a situation, draw the correct conclusions, and apply those conclusions to a new setting?

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            As a 40 year old with plenty of experience across the female age groups, I have to say that older women, on average, tend to act smarter. They are less confused about what they want, more stable, less emotional, less hormonal, more tempered and just less of a firecracker. They may be of the same raw intelligence as they were when they were younger, but they have less of a propensity to act "dumb" because they understand the consequences better and tend to be less emotionally driven. A 27 year old will rarely, for instance, "fall in love with the one" after a ONS, whereas that's just par for the course with a 19 year old. You spend more of your time babysitting with a 19 year old than a 27 year old, so I can completely understand the preference.

            [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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            I'm 45 and what I see in women our age who are single, and I mean every fucking one of them I have met or grown up with, is they are very poor decision makers. I date and fuck the younger ones because I can, and they still look good. Its also because I am accomplished, have plenty of resources to sustain myself, and skills to do what I want, and women our age who are single don't want that, you see they make poor choices. They still want the unstable asshole who is abusive and uses them financially. The smart ones got a good man and kept him, but these single ones threw out the men who don't have substance problems.

            Not only do they make very poor choices, they thrive on the drama that having an abusive loser gives them. They can feel like a victim every time he is mean to her and her kids, then she will break up with him for a week or two, get horny, and take him back.

            Take all that and wrap it up with feminine nature that even the fat ugly ones think they deserve the absolute best man, and you have women who are nobody I want to have living with me. The attitude coming from these older women is atrocious, they act like men or condescending bitches, but complain that there are no good men left. Know why? Because we are fucking girls half our age, that's why.

            [–]frequentlywrong 21 points22 points  (13 children)

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            I didn't down vote him for liking intelligent women. I down voted him for calling himself a sapiosexual. What the fuck.

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              [–]burn_bobonga 12 points13 points  (4 children)

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              Just because the term has been butchered by tumblr-feminist-fat-fucks

              This is it, essentially. Tumblrinas that want to be special snowflakes find some word to describe some niche sexual orientation. The animosity is bound to carry over.

              It also is somewhat vague. Sapiosexual doesn't discriminate between the sexes. Are you sexually attracted to intelligent men as well? So now you have to start identifying as a sapioheterosexual and who really cares.

              [–]aciliusoperatorx 11 points12 points  (2 children)

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              What's wrong with it? It's unnecessary. You either are attracted to the opposite sex (heterosexual), attracted to the same sex (homosexual), or attracted to both sexes (bisexual).

              The only reason to use a different term to describe your sexuality other than in the most basic and logical way, like above, is because you feel the need to stand out. Downvote me if you will but such terms serve no other applicable purpose.

              [–]curunir 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              Seems like the term should really be "sapiophile".

              [–]dancingwithcats 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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              I did not downvote you for it but it's a stupid term nonetheless.

              [–]captainramen 5 points6 points  (1 child)

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              I thought RP is about getting the women you want? Some guys want to spin plates; great! Some guys want to settle down and have a family. If that's what you want, it better be more than just sex, because you're both going to get old and wrinkly. I for one can't stand being around vapid bimbos.

              [–]Cthulu2013 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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              Rp isn't about getting women. It's about living life the way you want to. Not submitting to a feminist society that tells you being masculine is bad.

              Fuck.

              [–]1FloranHunter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              It's not a huge difference to me but I'm much the same: competence in women is sexy. Not as sexy as a nice ass but still relevant. In the masculine dual-mating strategy, competence is sexy in wives but not plates.

              [–]dancingwithcats 2 points3 points  (8 children)

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              Not in the least a blue pill mentality. Only insecure men are turned off by intelligent women. I for one can't stand stupid chicks. What you want is the total package; looks, brains, and personality. That's the only way to fly.

              [–]3 Endorsed ContributorSkorchZang 6 points7 points  (6 children)

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              Yes that's wonderful, having it all. Let us imagine it once more together and beam in happiness.

              Meanwhile in the real world our friends the feminists have already redefined what intelligence in a woman is, or means. Now, they have women thinking that by being "sassy", she is indeed intelligent! It's like make up, girls. Are you a hopeless, dumb cunt? Ritually apply more sassy and you'll be seen as very intelligent.

              Secure, successful, and dominant men are profoundly turned off by "sassy". Because hashtag sassy has nothing to do with genetically transferable intelligence... it merely advertises bad taste.

              [–]dancingwithcats -3 points-2 points  (5 children)

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              Intelligent women are not necessarily 'sassy', and an intelligent man can tell the difference between the two.

              EDIT: To elaborate, I'm sorry you have such a jaded view. It is possible to have a beautiful, intelligent, respectful woman. I'm sad for you if you haven't found that yet.

              [–]3 Endorsed ContributorSkorchZang 5 points6 points  (2 children)

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              You're lucky I'm such a positive and civil interlocutor. Many of the other men here might react to your effeminate passive aggressive shit with fully warranted steroid rage. You will feel their absolute contempt. These guys put "unicorns" into their blender in the morning for breakfast. I feel sorry for you if you don't get the fuck out with that, while you can.

              [–]dancingwithcats -1 points0 points  (1 child)

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              As if the contempt of a bunch of boys on an Internet forum would cost me sleep. Oh, you have no clue.

              [–]Darth_Pete 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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              Unicorns don't exist mate. Carry along now.

              [–]SirNemesis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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              You need to work on your reading comprehension so you can stop attacking straw men.

              [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              I've had intelligent women, and believe me they are incredibly rare. I prefer them actually, because I don't have to explain shit twice to them. Most are small minded, think in the right fucking now, this very minute, and have no thoughts about future plans, or what to do when the paycheck is gone but there are still two weeks left to the next one.

              I would say that if you find more than a handful of intelligent women through your life, then you either have a very low bar for them to hurdle, or you yourself are not as intellectual as you assume. Of course there are different forms of intellect, but I'm talking logical, problem solving, spacial, and STEM type intellect... You know, male type thinking. If social manipulation is your thing, then women are highly evolved to be intelligent in that area.

              Anyway, it doesn't matter what she is capable of mentally, she is still prone to hypergamy and all the other female things that are no longer held in check. Have a smart wife, she will still leave you if you get sick and lose your self confidence. It happened to me, twice, and they made some very poor choices despite being rather intelligent.

              [–]explodingham 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              Nah man I'm picky in that regard too. I found bimbos give me limp dick, women with common sense is what gets me hard. Problem is I don't get laid very often because of that lol but Don't get me wrong I fucked all the bimbos I care to fuck in my lifetime. I now want to fuck a woman who knows her ass from a hole in the ground.

              [–]Securitybob 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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              I feel like my muscles just grew from simply reading this. noice.

              [–]CELIBATE_MONKEY 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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              Be careful, it's very easy just to read this sub every day and feel like your improving yourself. You need to get out there and act.

              [–]Securitybob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              self awareness is an improvement. I work out, i keep moving up in my work and im already married to a woman who was not with every other guy. but thanks.

              [–]bama79rolltide -1 points0 points  (5 children)

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              Either opt out or become the type of man the majority of women want to fuck. It was that simple.

              How do you force the women to change? Just a fair question.

              [–]1bicepsblastingstud 11 points12 points  (0 children)

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              You can't force a woman to change.

              You can try to protect a woman from bad influences and you can avoid women with red flags, but you can't change anybody.

              [–]Overkillengine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              You can't force anyone to change who does not want to. The best you can do is tailor your actions accordingly.

              If enough men wake up and refuse to wife women who wasted the best years of their lives on puerile pursuits; they'll either stop doing that or be yet another cat-lady candidate.

              [–]ilphae 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              Force is the wrong word. Lead, inspire, train, or council are better alternatives.

              Regarding leadership, I once read a one-liner that changed me in a big way. "First lead yourself and others will follow." This motivated me to stop worrying about how I could control others directly, but instead focus on improving my weaknesses. As a result I had greater influence on others indirectly (women included). This is key.

              [–]tallwheel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              No, that is not a fair question. And there was no one other than you who suggested forcing women to change.