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[–]1redpillbanana 98 points99 points  (11 children)

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I'm still in the bitter phase, but I'm not bitter at women - I'm bitter at myself for being such an idiot in the past.

Every time I think of some egregious blue pill behavior from my past, I physically cringe, and that pain is what keeps me from going back to my former beta self, much like the pain from touching a hot iron keeps me from touching it again.

The pain and bitterness is still there, and it's what protects me.

[–]meneer_samsa 31 points32 points  (3 children)

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Think about the great unplugged future you have now enabled. Think about all these fantastic opportunities that you can make for yourself, now you've swallowed the pill. With hard work, the sky is the limit. All these beautiful girls, entrepreneurial/corporate/business successes, personal lifting records, and so forth, that lie in your new future. How can this future possibly be worse than the dull life your former self was moving towards? You shouldn't be bitter, you've hit jackpot. Now earn it, mothafucka. Work hard, no excuses.

[–]teeelo 6 points7 points  (1 child)

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A supportive post no doubt, but feeling those feels is necessary to truly work through them. Don't shy away from your sad, dark or angry emotions fellas. Embrace your true identity and you will have your starting point anchored.

[–]meneer_samsa 7 points8 points  (0 children)

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I totally agree. As long as it's not holding you back--which is often the case with bitterness or frustration--it's all right. Usually it, however, seems that frustrated people sit and complain, which gets you exactly nowhere. No one likes negative people. A positive attitude often gets stuff done.

[–]1redpillbanana 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Thanks man - you are right, of course.

I've been living the unplugged future that you speak of for some time now. It is as great as you say, and gets better every day.

[–]dropit_reborn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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I do this too, and kept in reasonable moderation, I think it's a good thing. If you can't face down your demons, lock them up in a box and attach a generator to them.

Men shouldn't express their emotions, they should channel them.

[–]ITHOUGHTYOUMENTWEAST 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Some people say that we blame women for our problems. To be fair, I'm sure some here do, but I sure as hell know that I was the main cause of most of my unhappiness for so long. I didn't even have to know any RP, just a tad bit of game and taking women off the pedestal would have made life when I was younger so much easier. Any time I remind myself of my past fuck-ups, I know that I can't go back, that pushing forward is the only way to improve.

New guys on RP have to know this.

[–]TheIronViking 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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This was exactly me a while back. I got past the "angry at women" phase very quickly, I was never even bitter about them. I just always sensed there was something I wasn't quite understanding and it bothered me to no end. Found places like this and slowly the world made more sense. My bitterness came solely from my own inability to perceive the world correctly. I really only began to heal when I realized I shouldn't get mad for falling for the big societal lie. Now that I'm unplugged so to speak, if come to accept the natural differences between the sexes and to forgive myself for falling prey to social conditioning.

[–]Gimpness -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

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If you think the beta phase was painful then you're mistaken, that's when you were comfortable dude.

Redpill has steep learning curve and once you're in that curve is when it gets painful and hard.

Keep at it though.

[–]1redpillbanana 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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The beta phase wasn't painful. Thinking back to that phase from where I am now is painful.

[–]17 Endorsed ContributorArchwinger 57 points58 points  (14 children)

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A man's nature is to be angry at shit that's wrong in the world. To want to fix things. It's normal to be angry at women for doing stupid shit. Yeah, they're women, yeah, they're different, yeah, they have different priorities and different biological/cultural/social norms, but they're still fundamentally human beings. With about the same average IQ, about the same physical capabilities and limitations, about the same mental and reasoning abilities.

It's just plain normal to feel disappointment when a girl with a 120 IQ, a master's degree, piles of friends and an extensive professional network, and the ability to design and run an entire department of the business where she works, makes horribly stupid decisions when it comes to men, while treating the men who care about her most with extreme disrespect and dishonor -- being a perfectly respectable and normal person to the entire world, except when dealing with the men who love her.

It's okay to be angry about this, because that's something stupid that warrants anger. What's not okay is to let that anger consume you, affect your life or your progress in any significant way, or to be an unproductive asshole about it. You see the situation, recognize it for what it is because you tore off those blinders ages ago, feel what's natural to feel about it, but continue to act in a manner that furthers your life in a positive direction, because you're not a slave to your emotions.

[–]6TLaRm4g 1 point2 points  (11 children)

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I think we all made a mistake in the past for treating women as equal to men. If you think about it, this conception that women should have the same rights is very new to humans. I think there's a reason why all civilizations before us had more or less women being lower than men. People of the past had that figured out. And it seems that women aren't "designed" to be equal to us at all for me.

[–]steelpuppy 0 points1 point  (10 children)

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I think we all made a mistake in the past for treating women as equal to men. If you think about it, this conception that women should have the same rights is very new to humans.

This concept of equality is still new to men as well. Guy like you are forgetting that 99% of men had little to no rights for most of history. If anything rights are a function of the wealth of a given society.

And it seems that women aren't "designed" to be equal to us at all for me.

And what you, I or any men is? We are just "designed" to survive and propagate.

[–]6TLaRm4g 0 points1 point  (9 children)

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And what you, I or any men is?

Men tend to be more rational than women, which we all know. Men also tend to be cooperative with one another, while women tend to sabotage other women more than cooperate, which we also know very well. IQ doesn't tell the whole story, even if they are close to men. Women tend to only do things and make decisions that benefits herself instead of the whole group. Can you give me a single reason why women should have the same rights men has, besides of belonging to the same species as us?

[–]steelpuppy -1 points0 points  (8 children)

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Men tend to be more rational than women, which we all know.

Must be why men voted for G.W. Bush under impressions that "he looks like a guy I can have a beer with". Men may think more logically but you are running with the assumption that the premise is sound. No matter how much logic you apply to a faulty premise the end result is still a faulty conclusion.

Men also tend to be cooperative with one another, while women tend to sabotage other women more than cooperate, which we also know very well. IQ doesn't tell the whole story, even if they are close to men. Women tend to only do things and make decisions that benefits herself instead of the whole group.

You do understand the the whole capitalism/free market world economy is based on self-interest? Self-interest kinda drives us all. Why do you think people are in this sub? For the greater good?

Can you give me a single reason why women should have the same rights men has, besides of belonging to the same species as us?

To minimize social tensions in society. To increase group cohesion. I doubt anyone likes to be a second class citizen. Men here sure don't like it.

[–]BluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (3 children)

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Letting the man be in charge does not make the woman 'a second class citizen.'

Letting the man be in charge in a relationship makes almost all women happy and horny so long as he considers her needs and opinions primary. Letting the woman be in charge of a relationship makes almost all women unhappy and looking for another man. How is that working out for you?

[–]steelpuppy -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

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Letting the man be in charge does not make the woman 'a second class citizen.' Letting the man be in charge in a relationship makes almost all women happy and horny so long as he considers her needs and opinions primary. Letting the woman be in charge of a relationship makes almost all women unhappy and looking for another man. How is that working out for you?

What the fuck is this, reading comprehension whack-a-mole? We are talking about legal rights in a society not relationships. Go re-read the comment chain, Professor.

[–]BluepillProfessor -1 points0 points  (1 child)

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Actually we are talking about sexual strategy for men in a feminist world. Those legal rights have established the relationships and we are saying it is not good.

Actually it is Assistant Professor Tenure Track, not "Professor" at least for another 10 years or so.

[–]steelpuppy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Actually we are talking about sexual strategy for men in a feminist world. Those legal rights have established the relationships and we are saying it is not good.

I don't see how them having the same rights (and in ideal world responsibilities) affects relationships. Sans marriage but then again everyone here is saying not to get married.

[–]6TLaRm4g -1 points0 points  (3 children)

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So you want is make us men second class citizens. We already are in certain situations, where feminism has won. I for one will never let women like you to put all men down.

[–]steelpuppy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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So you want is make us men second class citizens.

LOL. You really are lacking in reading comprehension. I don't want such a thing but neither do I want to make others second class citizens.

We already are in certain situations, where feminism has won.

Yeah, no shit. Doesn't mean we should take their rights. Only expand their responsibilities as should have been done from the start.

I for one will never let women like you to put all men down.

What exactly will you do? Bitch online with intellectually lazy comments like now?

[–]trp52 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

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The man doesn't need to be above others legally to get what he wants. Even if the ground is sloped, the man will find a way to come ahead. Don't blame the law for your inadequacies. If you got fucked through marriage - that was your fault.

[–]6TLaRm4g -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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I was referring more to general social situations which include almost any woman and white knights, but you are right.

[–]Free_skier 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Agreed. I don't see why I should not be upset. It helps me keep my frame and stay focused as I tend to be too nice.

[–]3toss -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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Excellent way to expand on this post. I need to accept both of these still.

[–]babyicanchange 37 points38 points  (11 children)

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Being from Southern Europe and hailing from a traditional family all of this red pill stuff isn't new for me.

Accepting things for what they are from a young age meant I never put women on a pedestal. They have their shortcomings and we have ours. I love women and the women that know me love me as well. Life would be dull without them.

I feel sorry for the kids that grow up without a real father figure and are indoctrinated to believe that they are perfect princesses. More often than not, they'll grow up into passive-aggressive bitter fags.

The downside of all this is that there's no room for being naive. No such thing as unconditional love from a female. And that's ok, if a bit underwhelming.

[–]sweetenigma 2 points3 points  (10 children)

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There's no such thing as unconditional love from a male either.

[–]ProjectShamrock 5 points6 points  (5 children)

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There's no such thing as unconditional love from a male either.

The closest is probably parents to children. I'd love my kids even if one of them turned out to be the next Hitler.

[–]6TLaRm4g 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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This is super conditional though. Condition is having your DNA. Love has a purpose, it's not some trash you throw right and left. It is expensive for you as a person and it has it's conditions.

[–]anonlymouse 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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Not necessarily, you'd see unconditional love for adopted children as well.

[–]6TLaRm4g -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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The condition is still being a child.

[–]AgentSmith27 2 points3 points  (3 children)

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I'm pretty sure there is no unconditional anything. Even your parents will only love you so much... and for some people, that isn't even that much.

[–]red_tux -1 points0 points  (2 children)

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I'm pretty sure there is no unconditional anything.

No, the government will unconditionally tax you whenever they can.

[–]AgentSmith27 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

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Well taxes have conditions too... That is why google didn't pay any taxes this year...

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/07/after-moving-money-around-google-paid-tiny-amount-in-european-taxes/

[–]red_tux -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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Google was still taxed, they just shopped around for the unconditional taxation which was to their favor.

[–]1veggie_girl 17 points18 points  (1 child)

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Based on the title, I came into this post expecting it to be some bluepiller nonsense that would have to be downvoted and reported.

On the contrary though, it was a pleasant surprise. There's no whiteknighting here.

"Women are like this, you can't change them, you can be angry and whine about it or learn to adapt."

That's pretty much theredpill in a nutshell.

[–]anonlymouse 20 points21 points  (8 children)

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The bitter phase could last a lot longer. The goals are good, but the time phase isn't necessarily reasonable. I'd expect it to be the same as getting over a breakup, which for some people is a matter of days and others years.

[–]Maaahoney 4 points5 points  (5 children)

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I agree. It's relative to the age or amount of time a person was "plugged in". I could imagine years for some, but that also builds on one's manhood. Just put that extra anger into self improvement and don't quit.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

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The anger has been my main source of motivation in the gym. It kinda sucks because I've started to try to get over it, and now don't really feel inspired to workout haha

[–]FinickyFizz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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I stopped running for a month and feel very depressed. Time to hit the gym and start running again.

The pain from over exerting yourself dwarfs everything else in relative comparison.

[–]anonlymouse -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

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If you've already made significant gains, having less frequent workouts will work better for you anyway. Towards the end, if you're not using steroids, you need way more rest days than training days.

[–]kinklianekoff -1 points0 points  (1 child)

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that is the exact opposite of what is common broscience. when your body is accustomed to it 5-6 days a week is normal if you want progress. even natty. also, the end of what?

[–]anonlymouse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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No, you will never progress without steroids past a certain point if you're working 5 days a week. Anyone who is working that much and hasn't plateaued after a while is on PEDs. You need rest days to recover, the heavier the weight you lift, the more time you need to rest.

The end of your genetic potential.

[–]1ubiety 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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The bitter stage should last as long as as it takes to read/watch and APPLY almost all of the side bar material, which can take a very long time if you're stubborn about making progress. I'll admit some of the theory isn't as necessary as to learn early on as the other stuff, but that's not an excuse to follow through and better your personal and romantic life given the absolute basics.

Being stuck in the bitter stage can be the most unproductive part of the journey, since it's the stage where you're most likely to relapse and accept what your friends, the media and popular opinion say could make you happy rather than finding what can make you happy.

[–]theredpillager -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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I came to say the same thing. "60 days seems reasonable" based on what? It'll be different for everyone. First time our views have been completely in accord, mouse.

[–]Drogoe 11 points12 points  (5 children)

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Couldn't agree more. The butthurt and bitterness redounds off the screen in this place - not everyone, of course, but enough to taint the whole community in a pall of negativity and charmlessness. Relax you fucks, some of you take life far too seriously.

[–]RedPillington 6 points7 points  (2 children)

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it's because there are 64k subscribers. the chill people are busy chilling. the people who are upset are the ones more motivated to talk.

[–]phil_mcrevis 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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Holy crap. I don't realize that. I remember not long ago when it hit 30k. That's some fast growth.

[–]QbertCurses 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Not every subscriber necessarily subscribes to the TheRedPill philosophy beliefs.

[–]1TVTestPattern 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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"There must be some way out of here," said the joker to the thief, "There's too much confusion, I can't get no relief.

Businessmen, they drink my wine, plowmen dig my earth, None of them along the line know what any of it is worth."

"No reason to get excited," the thief, he kindly spoke,

"There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke.

But you and I, we've been through that, and this is not our fate,

So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late."

All along the watchtower, princes kept the view

While all the women came and went, barefoot servants, too.

Outside in the distance a wildcat did growl,

Two riders were approaching, the wind began to howl.

  • Dylan

[–]1chivalry_augustus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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You'll never stop being bitter, so don't aim for the unreachable. In isolation, you will always be bitter about one woman, or one woman's choices, or the way one woman treated you. The issue with bitterness is the same as with all negative emotions, in how you use it. If you are bitter or angry or whatever, if you let that emotion unsettle you and foment your negativity, you are living a pointless existence. What some people do is they channel their negative emotions out of determination, to prove something to themselves or to others. If you can use negatives as fuel so that they become positives, don't hesitate to retain your emotions as reminders of who you were in the past. Don't hesitate to retain your individuality, rather than using the information here to build a generic supermegalpha male. You are your own man, work out what works best for you, and use it to your advantage.

Personally, I don't hate women. I can't hate women. To hate women, I would have to hate men, by my logic. As a relative newbie to this sub, what I have so far learned within myself is to no longer take women seriously. I used to analyse them and care about what they said. Now I'm so laidback about women and their issues that I don't care. The same is true of mens issues. The majority of the crap people used to offload on me was just meaningless rubbish, and I always thought so. Now I treat it as such, and I do so overtly. It's helped me massively in terms of setting personal boundaries. My confidence levels are through the roof. I'm as social and likeable as I've ever been. It's wonderful for me. And I know more hate anybody than I ever did before. Merely I love myself more. The best TRP advice I could give is to put yourself on the pedestal.

[–]IamAwaken 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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There will always be a newbie influx that drives this. Also a lot of ppl stay bitter and never get over it. It'd be great if there was an on off switch on out left hand to control things, but everyone either has to work through it or remain stuck there.

Can't negotiate desire. People have to want to change. It often has to be mentioned that a good attitude toward women is key part of TRP.

[–]BluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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There needs to be a sidebar topic on this. Several posts in recent weeks have talked about the bitter angry phase and that TRP is not really about hating women.

I always say you wouldn't kill your puppy if he pissed on the carpet, so why would you blow up your relationship/hate women for behaving like women.

We have been assured since our earliest memories that that the puppies don't really piss on the floor- that it is THE MAN'S fault or alternatively it isn't really piss and ignore all that raw sewage permeating the room making it uninhabitable. When you unplug you smell the rot and it makes you sick.

The lies are the most infuriating part but remember, most of the time women are not even aware of their true wants/desires so they are lying not just to you but to themselves. So get pissed off at society if you want and decry social institutions like feminism/Divorce Court/Vaginamony because eventually that builds into a social movement that might save the world someday.

Just don't stay mad at women. Use your knowledge of them to make your world- and therefore THE world- a better place, one plate at a time.

[–]kanaduhisfruityeh 5 points6 points  (2 children)

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It isn't about changing women. It is about recognizing the way that they are and counteracting their constant stream of lies in order to avoid getting butt-fucked.

[–]JustTwoBrothers -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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Cool, you've recognized it. Now what? That's what OP is saying.

[–]2asd1100 4 points5 points  (2 children)

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I was 100% until this:

Give yourself a target by using the phrase "By the end of next month."

Fuck you(not OP, but the pussy that is even considering the grieving period), if you need to be coddled stay blue pill. You have one weekend, learn all the best FR and then burn your blue pill robes and suit up. Go out and live! Nursing your sorrows isn't making your life any better it just makes you more comfortable and less willing to act.

The Five stages where invented by a woman psychologist, it is cuddling model, it has been expanded from death to loosing your car keys, as we all know women love excusses and deflection.

Stop doing the same thing, stop being little bitches and justify your behavior with that shit. You are men, stop whining and GO DO.

[–]BluepillProfessor -1 points0 points  (1 child)

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You are wrong. It takes time for many people to recover and the 5-stages are well established when you lose something close to you- like the entire Bluepill ideology for example. Some men need to crawl before they can even get up, much less run so, respectfully, fuck you (of course not asd but anyone else who would belittle the grieving stages of TRP).

[–]2asd1100 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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Actually I will take that fuck you. Because those stages where like most psycoteraphy developed for the lowest common denominator.

Look at the reshearch and see how they have been morphed from observations to obligatory and then "borrowed" by other reshearchers that lack originality.

We have not reached the level of understanding that comfort and indulgence is as unhealthy to the human mind as coercion and deflection. Because we would need to look at women and mens brains with scrutiny to realise that what is best for one(in limited quantities) is not optimal for another. Not to mention a over indulgence of self pity like fresh reds do.

[–]Overkillengine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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It's nice to see at least some people here see the whining and anger as fucking useless indulgences that need to be worked past.

[–]yummyluckycharms 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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I think you are confused.....

pointing out that women are "hypergamous, hypocritical, and dishonest about their stated desires and their actual wants" does not imply that red pillers are hating women - only that we recognize women's nature for what it is. Nobody hates a scorpion for using its stinger or a bird for using its wings - that's just them being what they were made to be.

In fact, red pillers love women. I love women, I love them quite frequently actually - and I hope that never changes.

[–]anonlymouse -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

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I think you are confused.....

No, he's just talking to those who do hate women, or still have a great deal of resentment towards them. Those of us who don't are free to ignore it.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Part of the issue is we get a new crop of subscribers every time we are mentioned in a 'worst subreddit in the world' thread, or someone starts bitching about us. That means we get some trolls, and others who put women on the pedestal and want to proclaim NAWALT. Others who are new want to be popular and give a shit about how TRP is viewed by the rest of reddit.

What this means is we have angry new people all the time, and old hands and salty weathered sea dogs like GLO who understand the nature of women. The latter inevitably will repeat as necessary until the new crop learns that yes AWALT and the outliers are insignificant and unicorns do not exist.

It appears we are angry, but we are education and replacing what can be decades of indoctrination and propaganda that tells men and women that females deserve respect, should be placed on pedestals and worshipped as only vagina wrapped in a neurotic and physically weak shell can.

Yeah some dyes are angry, and if you read my history you will think I loathe women, but really the only anger I have regarding women is marriage and divorce laws that enable and reward hypergamous behavior while simultaneously punishing men. There is nothing I can do to change those laws, so I tell what happened to me, why it happened, and what the outcomes of marriage were for my two daughters and I. Some believe it, some think it could never happen to them, and others simply want to stiffle how often it happens to good fathers.

The influx of new people is part of the perpetual 'anger' here, and maybe it will subside once the people who hate us realize the Streisand Effect is real and only serves to flood our ranks with minds wanting to be free when they openly hate on us.

[–]reddiforlove 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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Beautifully written, though I disagree with the "... will not change her," parts.

While you may not be able to change a woman's inherent nature, I do believe women can be trained to be better, just like the dogs and squirrels you mention.

[–]goldenbeardy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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I hope this is enforced. All the anti-feminist stuff is getting a bit old. Look, we all hate feminists, they should fuck off. We all understand that women are manipulative and nobody can ever reason with one.

This doesn't help us at all. Just give us advice and shit.

[–]Dreamtrain 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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About time, some folks dwell on the "anger" phase way too much, multiplied by the amount of new subscribed it not only makes the sub look bad (which actually we don't care) but rather, it makes the quality of comments bad. So you realized everything you thought about women was wrong, tough shit, you're here to learn to take control of your life, to not whine about being friend zoned again, not only to have the sex life you want, but to pavement your path to success.

[–]Samuikr 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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How could a girl ever be on a pedestal? There is no space left because that is where you are on.

[–]anonlymouse 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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You're on your own hate pedestal?

[–]RichardPerle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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It's called being your own toughest critic. The two pedestals here are not mutually exclusive. You can occupy both.

[–]HandsomeXan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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A woman cannot change her nature anymore than a squirrel or a dog.

Yeah, but I still hate squirrels and dogs. I told my ex the other day (after she called me asking to be friends), "I hate women. Why would I ever want to be just friends with one?"

I up vote this post for the valid point, but I don't think I'll ever actually enjoy a woman's presence in any way aside from a sexual manner.

I hate putting up the act. A&A and all that. Doesn't mean I won't do it, but just for the record it is indeed an act and nothing more to me.

[–]BluepillProfessor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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Being with women is practice for dealing with your kids. If you don't want kids then your approach may be best but try to turn that 'hate' into "disinterest." Obviously OP was unable to reach you with his exhortations.

[–]MaxPower6 -1 points0 points  (20 children)

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If you not an 8 plus on the looks scale then you are like a fat chick to all attractive women. How can one not be bitter about that?

[–]RedPillington 5 points6 points  (17 children)

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except unlike a fat chick, you've got options:

  1. get in good shape

  2. become stable and supportive of those around you

  3. follow your passions

you are now an 8+, butterface or no

[–]tony_douglas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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There are solutions that are too "redpill" for most guys on here and I would at least try these as its where i am with my life now.

  1. Get on HRT.... if you are naturally fat, man boobs, poor skeletal structure/ facial features you most likely have low T and or high estradiol... a qualified doc like Dr. Crisler or Anabolic Doc can help you figure out if these things are an issue.
  2. If you have a particular facial feature... weak chin, weak jaw etc there is plastic surgery and the trend is growing among men. Many of the most alpha men in the world have had PS... President Obama himself being one of them (google Obama plastic surgery).
  3. Focus on career and money... Following your "passions" in and of itself will get you nowhere if your passions are MTG or underwater basket weaving. Start a company, or learn how to code, start investing etc.. money is the big equalizer in the long run. Even if you can get that girl of your dreams today, why should you give up and say you cant when you are rich in your 30s?... my opinion.
  4. Start meditating and read about spirtuality. Ancient Hindus understood the great dilemma a man faces when he cannot find love, it is documented as early as the Vedic period. Dr. Alan Watts is a great aid on this and you can google his video. Learn to go out by yourself and not think about women. Find a bar sit down surrounded by chaos... men trying to meet women, women trying to meet men, drunkards, loud music... and meditate. Whenever I feel depressed about my loneliness I just meditate and clear my mind. At the end of the day we are all nobodies, all specs in this illusion "maya". Today you could be a professional athlete, tomorrow you could die in a plane crash (Thurman Munson). Everyone is human at the end of the day, and we will all end up in the same place. Seek inner peace.

[–]MaxPower6 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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Hypergamy doesn't care about your stability or passions

[–]RedPillington -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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it cares about the experience I provide her which is heavily influenced by whether I am stable and pursue my passions.

[–]tallwheel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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except unlike a fat chick, you've got options:

get in good shape

become stable and supportive of those around you

follow your passions

you are now an 8+, butterface or no

And, ironically, the fat chick would probably only need to do the first one of those things in order to massively increase her SMV. So, actually, in a way she might have more options.

[–]tony_douglas -1 points0 points  (2 children)

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There are solutions that are too "redpill" for most guys on here and I would at least try these as its where i am with my life now.

  1. Get on HRT.... if you are naturally fat, man boobs, poor skeletal structure/ facial features you most likely have low T and or high estradiol... a qualified doc like Dr. Crisler or Anabolic Doc can help you figure out if these things are an issue.
  2. If you have a particular facial feature... weak chin, weak jaw etc there is plastic surgery and the trend is growing among men. Many of the most alpha men in the world have had PS... President Obama himself being one of them (google Obama plastic surgery).
  3. Focus on career and money... Following your "passions" in and of itself will get you nowhere if your passions are MTG or underwater basket weaving. Start a company, or learn how to code, start investing etc.. money is the big equalizer in the long run. Even if you can get that girl of your dreams today, why should you give up and say you cant when you are rich in your 30s?... my opinion.
  4. Start meditating and read about spirtuality. Ancient Hindus understood the great dilemma a man faces when he cannot find love, it is documented as early as the Vedic period. Dr. Alan Watts is a great aid on this and you can google his video. Learn to go out by yourself and not think about women. Find a bar sit down surrounded by chaos... men trying to meet women, women trying to meet men, drunkards, loud music... and meditate. Whenever I feel depressed about my loneliness I just meditate and clear my mind. At the end of the day we are all nobodies, all specs in this illusion "maya". Today you could be a professional athlete, tomorrow you could die in a plane crash (Thurman Munson). Everyone is human at the end of the day, and we will all end up in the same place. Seek inner peace.

[–]MaxPower6 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

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So plastic surgery is the real Red Pill

[–]tony_douglas -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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Not independently... its not going to make you Brad Pitt.

Just want to put all the options out there. You're not the only one dealign with this man

[–]tony_douglas -1 points0 points  (9 children)

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This is the kind of stuff on TRP that pisses me off... blanket blue pill somehow contorted to be redpill because it makes the poster feel good. Yes those things matter, but lets be realistic. A guy who does not naturally look good is going to have a hard time getting a great body because the same hormones which determine facial appearance determine your anabolic capacity-- not saying this cant be fixed but theres a reason why Jonah Hill looks like a pussy both before losing weight and after. Theres a reason why many of the best athletes in the world can pass for male models and vice versa... its all genetic programming to help them win the mating game.

This can be fixed but you need to be very aggressive-- training, diet, mobilization and if need be anabolics/thyroid medication/estrogen blocks/surgery. "Just lift bro" will work for 30% of males who have the requisite 700 ng/dl + test levels and muscle insertions etc. Its a science, not an art.

Both 2 and 3 are great theoretical pie in the sky philosophies to life but wont help OP with what he wants --- specifically to get laid and not feel lonely. You DO NOT want to be the stable beta who some chick who has taken 30 dicks marries at age 28 because she needs an ATM. Stability should simply afford YOU the capacity to do what YOU want.... fuck it go to Amsterdam and bang a bunch of 10/10 hookers for christ sake and smoke tons of weed and have a fucking ball... dont settle for some over the wall bitch.

Follow passions that are productive. I would smoke weed all damn day if I knew it wouldnt interfere with my professional and personal aspirations. Cut out the video games, cut out the porn, cut out the sit around and pound beers with my 3 other miserable male friends nights. If going out isnt getting you what you want after AMPLE work... chill out and redirect your energy productively. You will be surprised how much a bit of success can form synergism other areas of your life.

Lastly, find inner peace... its not a scam trust me.

[–]RedPillington 1 point2 points  (8 children)

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wall of text much?

you have better options than the fat girl.

getting in shape is hard work. I used to be 80 lbs overweight. what is the secret? work harder than anyone else.

the stability I refer to is psychological and emotional. being supportive of those around you makes you a leader. this is before you add women into the equation. read: be a happy benevolent alpha.

and of course your passion can't be jerking off. I should've said constructive passion, but the trick is again mentality.

[–]tony_douglas -2 points-1 points  (7 children)

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The OP wants to get hot girls. Being that significantly overweight leads to a lot of testosterone conversion to estrogen via aromatization so overweight men typically have underdeveloped facial bone structures and musculature. Being "not fat" isnt enough today if you want a 6+ girl and thats as RP as it gets. There are exceptions, but in statistics there is a mean and most outcomes will fall closely around it.

A fat girl doesnt even have to lose that much weight. A lot of famous women that we consider attractive are fat like drew barrymore... makeup and clothing actually mean something when you are just contorting cellulite. For men looks is pretty much based on stuff that cant be changed like underlying bone structure and hormones.

[–]RedPillington -1 points0 points  (6 children)

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"OP" said:

If you not an 8 plus on the looks scale then you are like a fat chick to all attractive women. How can one not be bitter about that?

being reasonably well put together physically and having your shit together gives you the opportunity to have respect that is not available to a lumbering land whale.

fat like drew barrymore

[–]tony_douglas -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

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The male equivalent to drew barrymore in terms of bodytype is not hot to women.. Men will lower their standards dramatically. Lumbering landwhales are generally women with pituitary conditions in their own right. Most of the decent bitter guys here are not out of shape or socially awkwards... just cant get the girls PUA etc says they can with "game".

You can either lower your standards or AGGRESSIVELY improve... not just "frame" but push it way farther. That is beyond most of the pussy redpill males of reddit.

[–]RedPillington -1 points0 points  (4 children)

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Lumbering landwhales are generally women with pituitary conditions in their own right.

so you're saying we evolved a tenfold increase in pituitary conditions within 50 years?

just cant get the girls PUA etc says they can with "game".

TRP isn't PUA.

That is beyond most of the pussy redpill males of reddit.

are you trolling right now?

[–]tony_douglas -1 points0 points  (3 children)

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  1. Yes, actually. Look at studies on the systematic erosion of testosterone levels in men since the 1930s. For the most part people today eat diets largely composed of highly processed foods chalk full of oestrogens and xenoestrogens. Moreover, the FDA is largely a corrupt organization which prioritizes US trade interests hence the 6-11 recommended servings of grain --- one of our historically most abundant and cheapest commodities. At the same time high quality saturated fats, the building blocks of effective metabolism and some of the most calorie rich foods, are demonized by progressive "dieticians". Land whales are the female equivalent of neckbeards... creatures with poor diet, absolutely crapped out endocrine, lympathic, nervous, respitory you name it... diets of highly processed foods and contaminants lead to female characteristics in males such as man boobs and excess adipose tissue whereas female develop masculine traits such as wider and thicker bones and excessive vascularity to support blood flow.

  2. TRP has a very strong PUA element tucked in which I have always disagreed with. Clearly personality isnt all that matters. You have to be a blind idiot to think that Channing Tatum isnt going to outslay Jonah Hill no matter what. Its aggravating that when looks come up people give extremely bluepill bs responses like "lift bro", "confidence!", "just hold frame"... how about tell them the science of improvement like I did below.

  3. TRP is full of bro scientists who often recommend things they hear, not which they have experienced. The reason why PUA ever really even caught on was because lots of beta males who werent getting girls told their equally beta friends and created a cult. The same can be said of any of a number of subreddits which are filled will circle jerk neckbeards who have no idea wtf they are talking about. Moreover there is such an intense censorship element to every sub that the same unqualified people post over and over again. Lastly, frame is often used as a method of emasculation on this sub. Mention doing x,y,z to work on looks "thats a feminine thing to do bro".... mention that most of miscers are on roids "no bro you just are a pussy and dont lift", call out so and so rok guy for blatantly lying about his escapades "dude he's the man he pulls pussy everywhere" (idolization to a fault).... basically use "frame" as a method of silencing ie pussification its hilarious

[–]RedPillington -1 points0 points  (2 children)

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For the most part people today eat diets largely composed of highly processed foods chalk full of oestrogens and xenoestrogens.

so what you're saying is that it's diet and perfectly within one's control?

your point #2 isn't relevant to the conversation really. take the fucking steps you can take, and then complain that they don't work. or bitch that you can't be a 10, and remain a 5 instead of topping out at a 7 or 8.

i agree with your point #3.

you seem to be espousing MGTOW stuff and then pretending it's not red pill so you can criticize TRP. weird.

[–]Endorsed ContributorDownvoteToDisagree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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On the flipside, the clock is ticking for every young woman until they age and lose their beauty, no matter what they do.

Life isn't fair. Eventually, all of us will have to reach the acceptance stage of that fact, and the best we can do is figure out how to get along according to its twisted rules--and, possibly, succeed in spite of them.

[–]JustTwoBrothers -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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By making yourself into something pleasing to your eyes. I mean seriously, are you mad someone doesn't find you attractive? If you're mad about it then change it. Go workout, dress better, and carry yourself with confidence.

If you can't, then you can't. No one will feel sorry for you, and all that bitterness is a festering wound that won't heal unless you force it away.

[–]Entrefut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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From my perspective TRP is learning to live with and love women. Accepting their nature is the first step into loving them.

[–]RedPillington 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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i think giving yourself time limits is that same sort of qualifying bullshit men are required to do by everyone else. i encourage people to just be unrepentantly pissed off for a bit, and when it starts to get tedious, figure it out.

[–]ImCheshire 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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I'm bitter at my abusive single mom who didn't teach me shit. Now I'm a 34yo man celebrating one year separation and leaning how to live like a real man.

It's never too late, I guess.

[–]BluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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No it certainly is not. Look at the SMV charts. You have not even peaked yet on age. Game is rarely learned from abusive single moms so learn it from somebody else then get in shape and have fun!

[–]ImCheshire -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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Look at the SMV charts

Found this, looks interesting: http://therationalmale.com/category/sexual-market-value/

I can't read it now, but the chart looks right on. thanks.

Game is rarely learned from abusive single moms

My problem is the same as all my best friends and the modern society overall: The lack of (alpha) male figure.

My mom was a rebellious young woman who went to university just to prove her dad that she could get a degree. Married my father because of pregnancy, divorced a couple of years later. Raised me with a fist of iron, had two other children with two different man. Shit, I'm just whining here. Anyway, thanks for the help. It has been a long route of self discovery and learning. Still a lot of emotional barriers to break. The biggest of all, I hate talking to strangers.

[–]aa223 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Everyone improves and changes at their own pace. I think it is better that way since some people take longer to come to a realization than others.

Also, we talk about not putting women on a pedestal. Hating women is still putting them on a pedestal just like how Hitler was put on a pedestal.

[–]whitepeopleshit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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This. I just came across TRP a few weeks ago. I've never really had issues with women. I think I'm just a naturally assertive guy focused on doing my own thing.

There is a lot of good male-female interaction stuff here that I find interesting, and I like the bits about self improvment. OP is right, though, it takes a lot of digging. To an outsider or a newcomer, a lot of TRP posts seem like a big circlejerk of guys that are butthurt and angry at women in general.

[–]6TLaRm4g 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Just view women the same way you view cows. You run after them and step in their shit and/or get kicked in the teeth. You get angry and think why cows are such horrible creatures. But you just need to avoid them. You need to go from other direction, be calm and milk them. A cow is a cow, she won't change so you can milk her however YOU think is appropriate. Same with women. Only with them you have to pretend you care about them as a person.

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    [–]1 Endorsed Contributorjsl2837 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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    Unattractive guys especially those in whom the unattractiveness is subtle and not socially appropriate for discussion -- he has no Game, he is too nice, etc -- can go for years if not decades with no real idea of how sexual attraction really works because no women ever bothered to tell them.

    You are supposed to just get it on your own. People will tell you nice things to maintain social ettiquette, or to reinforce their own beliefs. If your friends and family are mostly blue pillers, no one will tell you harsh truths. And many of these men have invested so much into an ideal self-image of what girls should desire -- kind, generous, quirky, or whatever special snowflake variety of beta Game -- that they will go into full-on confirmation bias and miss out on all the ways in which their sexual strategy doesn't work even at times when it fails right in their face.

    It's like you have a sickness that requires surgery, but for years your doctor just gives you painkillers. Or you misdiagnosed your sickness as something else and so you never went to the doctor.

    You don't just see that the sky is blue. You see it dimly, and only at certain times, through layers and layers of social behaviors, cultural beliefs, media brainwashing, and your own ego attachments. It's only when you roll three dice and they all come up 6 -- e.g. you went through the breakup or the divorce from hell + you see that other people's answers and platitudes don't really work + you stumble across RP -- only then do you dismiss the variables that don't matter and pay attention to those that have significance in reality.

    Then the bitterness sets in because you see how ignorant and boneheaded you have been, and how much of your finite life you've wasted, holding yourself back from your full potential, because you didn't see the truth about yourself earlier.

    If you figured it out early, it speaks well of you as an individual. The aspie or introvert types figure it out much much later because they have much less social experience. For some of them, the learning curve is so steep that they never figure the truth out because they are too stuck in their own world.

    This is where people mistake correlation with causation. They think that only bitter men looking to blame women and society for isolated cases of female misbehavior will agree with the pill. So they believe that the rise of the red pill was caused by bitter men being brought together by the Internet.

    In reality, red pill is a minority viewpoint not because a minority of 'bitter' men are deluded idiots and the blue pill majority is correct. Red pill is a minority viewpoint because only a minority of men are 'lucky' enough to be mistreated (married men and men in relationships) or completely rejected or ignored (guys who can't get laid for years and years) to such an extent that the goggles of their feminine-primary conditioning start to come loose; and then lucky enough yet again to come across information that explains clearly what they did wrong; and THEN lucky enough yet again to be sufficiently intelligent or open-minded (keywords: 'associative horizon') to do something useful with the new information, rather than reject it. And many people do not roll the dice in that order. Some are smart enough but haven't had enough experience with women. Some had good experiences with women, so far. Etc, etc.

    This is not even taking into account men who were dealt a losing deck from birth, who would fail with women no matter what they did, unless they work much, much harder than other men. (And in some cases, not even then.) From their perspective, blue pill strategies would work just as well as red pill strategies (i.e. zero results) and they wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Knowledge alone cannot save everyone. Circumstances, genetics, effort, perspective; all these play a role.

    Therefore, there are many reasons why it is not obvious to many men that the sky is indeed blue.

    [–]Rafael-L-Smith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    i keep going round in circles from anger to acceptance (and everything in between) then back again. like a 2 steps foward 1 step back thing.

    [–]circlhat -5 points-4 points  (18 children)

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    The most popular posts are often links to clickbait and studies that demonstrate that women are hypergamous, hypocritical, and dishonest about their stated desires and their actual wants. The Red Pill is bitter going down. It is depressing.

    That is not being bitter, women are hypergamous because its in their best interests, pointing this out is common sense. A women should seek out the best she can find, the red pill preaches this over and over because you can do everything right and become the best you can be and still get passed over for a unemployed women beater.

    Women aren't your friend, they aren't put on earth to please you, but to get the most for the least, you need to realize this.

    "By the end of next month, I will have accepted that nothing I say or do will change a woman's nature."

    So when a women treats me like shit, I shouldn't say nothing because its in her nature. A women nature is to get the most for the least, to shit test you for no reason other than her own validation. If you don't not pass these shit test like the OP is suggesting and just keep quiet she will leave you.

    By the end of next month, women will never upset me again.

    I think you need to go to /r/thebluepill

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (13 children)

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    You are the reader the OP was meant for.

    [–]circlhat -4 points-3 points  (12 children)

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    Being aware is not being bitter, I not here to improve myself, I'm here to learn about women.

    Women aren't good or bad, they look out for their best interests, focusing on my self is ass backwards

    [–]BluepillProfessor 2 points3 points  (2 children)

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    I not here to improve myself, I'm here to learn about women.

    You are not in the right reddit.

    [–]circlhat -1 points0 points  (1 child)

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    learning about women is improving myself, if i want to work out I would go to /r/bodybuilding, I believe I'm in the right place

    [–]BluepillProfessor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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    OK, I see that you get it. Learning about women and how to handle yourself with them is definitely self improvement- so you ARE here for self improvement after all. So say we all. Cheers.

    [–]JustTwoBrothers 0 points1 point  (8 children)

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    So what are you learning that OP hasn't laid out? Every new post about this little feminist outrage or that one isn't helping you learn shit.

    Seriously, he wrote this post for YOU, so you can spend less time on something that has stayed static since its inception (females) and more time on something that needs the attention you give to females for some reason (you).

    [–]circlhat -1 points0 points  (7 children)

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    females aren't the problem, my perception of females are, the point of this sub is to the learn the true nature of females.

    I don't see what your problem is, the only thing you said/implied is I hate women because I want to learn about their true nature and become aware to better and protect myself.

    I disagree with women are perfect little creatures.

    [–]JustTwoBrothers -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

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    Holy fucking shit.

    Again, what do you learn from the current TRP front page that the OP hasn't laid out? And somehow you segue into implying I said women are perfect, and that I implied you hate women.

    But there's the onion.

    NO ONE SAID THEY ARE. You're so quick to think I'm implying women are perfect you didn't even read what I said. Yes, women are X Y and Z, just like the OP was written.

    We're saying get the fuck over it and go dive into life. How much is it really going to help you reading another story about beta bux?

    [–]circlhat -1 points0 points  (5 children)

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    You misunderstand what I'm saying, I not surprise as you only want to argue.

    Trying to find self-improvement advice on Red Pill Reddit takes a lot of winnowing.

    The red pill is not a self-improvement site, the mods have confirmed this.

    the entire point of this site is to learn the nature of women, not dive into life or some feel good Disney shit.

    than he accuses the entire sub of women hating, and how we should just accept and move on, in reality we should accept and change our methods in dealing with women and react accordingly.

    [–]JustTwoBrothers 0 points1 point  (4 children)

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    Listen man, either you're trolling or your reading comprehension is that bad.

    Just like you tried to straw man me in your last response, you're straw manning the OP. He isn't doing any of that, yet you refuse to actually read the whole post.

    [–]circlhat -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

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    OP made a blanket statement, that is not straw man, he said we are a bitter women hating sub , and he gives us 60 days to better ourselves.

    I wish the mods would remove this post for such arrogance, he is a new account with very little karma, A obvious blue pill troll

    [–]JustTwoBrothers -1 points0 points  (2 children)

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    The Red Pill is bitter going down. It is depressing.

    But how long should the "bitter phase" last?

    The only two instances in OP's post where he used the word bitter. You're either a dummy, or just aren't very literate. Instead of taking OP's message as "hey man, lighten the mental load of anger and you'll be happier" you instead take it as an attack on yourself.

    You know who takes advice and then turns it into a personal affront? Insecure people. And TRP is slowly getting filled to the brim with people like you, quick to judge, quick to summarize with absolutely no comprehension, and quick to throw the label of "bluepill" or "feminist" on shit you don't agree with.

    [–]1CaptainFalconer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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    Common sense often just translates to "common assumption".

    And given the dogmatic cultural focus on "Women are just as logical as men, and believe in unconditional true love and loyalty".

    It's a bit of a game changer to realize that's not true.

    To me, the biggest game changer was to realize what women really want is a guy with a hot body, social status, dominance, and a lack of neediness.

    When you hear girls complaining about how they want kindness, empathy, care-taking, and commitment. What they really mean is from a guy who already has all the above traits.

    [–]icyhot39 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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    If I could undo all of these other people's down votes I would. I read the post the same way. Apparently we're supposed to excuse deplorable behavior by women now because: vagina. In fact, the OP completely ignores women's agency.

    I understand that we can't control society, and we should focus on ourselves and self-improvement. This site even with the whining helps me understand women better. I go to other subreddits when I want to focus on specific improvements like weight-lifting. Which makes me wonder, what the hell this subreddit is supposed to contain if not information sharing between men about women.

    The poster can think whatever he wants, but I'm tired and resent the idea that we're just supposed to excuse women's poor behavior while telling us men to just accept it.

    [–]HolographicWhaleTail -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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    He's not telling you to excuse it, he's telling you to stop bitching about it. You don't excuse their poor behavior, but you should accept their natural behavior. Being bitter about the way women are is like being angry when the sun goes down. Sitting around talking about how fucked up the sun is because it went away won't help, but lighting a candle and going on about your business will.

    [–]comefromspace -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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    Now this one should be sticki'ed

    [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

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    After knowing the truth how you can help but look down on women? They're inferior human beings. Just a vehicle for giving birth. Men are the actual product.

    [–]BluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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    You could not be more wrong about women. If they are so inferior why have they won with feminism and why are so many married men TOTALLY defeated by their wives?

    Women complement men when the roles are properly played and they are a grave hindrance when they are not.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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    Women didn't win anything. Men allowed women to have rights equal to men, that's it. Men gave in. They didn't just take rights for themselves all on their own.

    [–]soulracer -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

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    Couldn't agree more.

    I love women for what they are.

    Now, many people here would probably interpret that as naive and Blue Pill or whatever. On the contrary, I see them for what they are as discussed here, and I work within that to my benefit.

    Once you understand a system you're able to work with it. There's a reason why women tend to be the way they are. This REASON is what people don't seem to accept much, and it's this reason for why that's written about in the sidebar.

    It's all part of the beauty of life. Women want us to be men, mostly as discussed here. And if they treat men badly it's because the men didn't know any better and let it happen. I actually feel bad for women, having to put up with so much pussy behavior. No wonder they carousel on the alphas, because there are so many betas in the world. I see it every day on the street, on dates, in bars... How awful it must be that they have to try to wade through all the pussies throughout life.

    We're taught here to believe they all have this conscious plan to fuck us over. No, they are just following their instincts. If there are beta men that don't know any better, there are certainly women that don't understand themselves either.

    They want us to be men, so that they can be women. Except they can't tell it to us directly, because then we'd just be doing what we're asked. You can't ask somebody to be more alpha, because it's a Catch 22.

    When you actually become a man as you're supposed to be, this nature of women it quite enjoyable and things feel right. It's a dynamic balance of forces. They need to be challenging and you need to be solid, for that to work.

    Don't just think about resigned acceptance as the next step beyond bitterness. Embrace reality, change, and then experience how things should be, with joy.

    [–]HolographicWhaleTail -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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    I read this in a Spanish accent for some reason. Anyway, this is exactly how I feel.

    [–]MooMooMooN -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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    YAY! I'm at the "What can you offer other than a penis cozy?" stage!!

    [–]xantris -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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    I've always found anger to be an (extremely) useful tool. I'm significantly more capable.. socially, mentally and physically, when I have a smoldering rage burning just under the surface. It gives you that edge, that unbending power of will, desire, and a sense that nothing can stop you.

    I lost my anger in my early 20s for many years, and it caused me to fall into a state of apathy. So I'm not sure that turning it off is a good thing, at least not for some folks. Just recognize its origin and learn to use it productively.

    [–]srtor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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    Very much this. The change of focus is very important. Don't rely on others (SO, wife, girlfriend etc) to make you happy. You have to make yourself happy.

    Do something that brings joy to yourself. Important point, you cannot change others but you can change yourself. Resentment can only destroy your happiness, but rebuilding your self and restructuring your mind and body can bring you joy and fulfillment.

    Learn a new language, join the gym, pickup a new hobby. Or just take a long walk everyday. What you are doing is just changing back the focus on yourself. Redefining yourself, rejuvenating yourself.

    In the end, we are social beings, we like companionship. But in that, we put too much effort, time and money to find and maintain a relationship. Don't make yourself too vulnerable into a relationship that may burn you. This happens when you 'forget about yourself'.

    [–]tallwheel -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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    Hypergamy examples are good.

    You're disregarding how easily RP men can relapse if they aren't reminded every once in a while. I think hypergamy examples are good for both newbs and veterans alike. We need them. Just because you, at this moment in your life, are tired of seeing them doesn't mean they aren't necessary for others, or might even be necessary again for you one day when you start relapsing into BP behavior. Men who were raised BP so easily start tending toward BP behavior again once they get overconfident or too comfortable.

    [–]asshowl -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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    I got over the bitterness with a mixture of equating the unattractive behaviour of a standard woman to my previous unattractive beta behaviour, and then (more importantly) the top posts on RPwomen, which blew my mind even further.

    I don't even bother with the standard "hey look at this study" "feminist admits that women do, indeed, take shits". I'm more concerned with what TRP means to me, which is maintaining my personality unapologetically.

    [–]Gimpness -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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    All of this has already been posted so you're just rewording the post with less knowledge on it.

    There are 5 phases as we all know, and you should get through them naturally, you can keep telling yourself that you've accepted it etc. but you should know that means you're in bargaining. so you're passed anger but you'll have to go through depression before you hit acceptance.

    It doesn't take 1 month to get your inner game completely done, it takes 1-3 years but good luck at that.

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    I was talking about dating with a hot redhead friend of mine on facebook.

    She said something akin to "it's not you, people are just assholes"

    C'est la vie.