There's a top post today about a guy who found out that his gf got rammed in a fivesome in a public restroom. He found out she lied about this AND her total partner count. Of course, the girl is "soooo confused" as to why her bf has now shut her out. "Eww why r menz so intimidated by an strong, outgoing womyn?!?"
This comment caught my eye:
It could be the number that threw him off, or the fact that you lied to him. You'll have to figure out which one it is.
This is indicative of how wider society views this issue. Whereas everyone agrees that it's bad that she lied, society gives women a free pass on their high partner counts & past orgies/threesomes/etc as if they are totally irrelevant to a woman's character/sexual attitude.
"How did we come to the point where we judge/predict someone's future behavior based on past actions for virtually EVERY facet of their lives...except for sex?"
Who is most likely to blow their money at the casino...The person who's never touched a blackjack table or the person who has a gambling problem? Who is the better employee...The person with an excellent work history or the person who has been fired 5 times for negligence?
While the answers to the above are obvious, we live in a society where men are encouraged/forced/shamed into ignoring a woman's past partner count when trying to figure out what kind of future wife/gf she will be.
The truth is that a woman's past sexual behavior (partner count) is a GREAT predictor of her future sexual behavior.
There is literally no better predictor of future outcomes than past empirical data. And one key piece of data that determines how you view sex...is actually how much you've had sex. Duh.
"Why does this issue exist?"
As with most RP issues, the existence of the problem can be mostly attributed to: a) women will act (even subconsciously) in their own sexual self-interest, unless men/society hold them accountable. BUT b) Newsflash: bluepill men don't hold women accountable because they don't want to "ruin their chances" of getting their dicks wet and/or can't stand up to women shaming them for actually wanting to be men.
In that context, we can realize that women want the freedom to behave a certain way (which is fine) but without any consequences (which is not fine).
In RP terms, they want to maintain their access to high SMV men while ALSO engaging in low female SMV behaviors (i.e. sleeping around). However, women don't realize that they forfeit their exclusive access to high SMV men the instant they stop acting like high SMV women (i.e. feminine/non-slutty women).
On a side note, it's interesting that the only times women "complain" about men refusing to date them for their sexual past is when it's high SMV men. No woman complains about the beta, because they know they have the betas on lockdown. It's only when a high SMV man like George Clooney continuously dumps his aging gfs (thus denying her access to his money/status) that women get all fussy and accusatory.
"Ugh, why do menz even care about this?"
Because men value sex. A lot. We don't go around telling women not to look for high SMV/Dread game/asshole men (at least RP men don't), because we understand that security/money/power/status/height/etc are all important to women. We're over our butthurt and now strive to excel in as many of those areas as possible because we know that's what women respond to.
So when it comes to something that we as men value, we are going to judge women harshly on that. Telling men to "grow up" is not gonna change our nature as determined by evolution. In short, men wanna fuck but we don't want to fuck something worthless.
Beyond just fucking, we want to make sure our long-term investment is sound. We want good gfs/wives/mothers. We don't want to make a mistake. So when a girl is confused why her 80 partner count bothers men, we perk up and think "Ya know...this girl had sex like it was nothing...so she probably will again".
And if you're a woman asking why men would ever come to that conclusion, you should reflect and ask yourself how the hell are you NOT coming to that conclusion?
"But I'm a new person now! That was my past & you're the one I choose to be with!...oh btw, I won't do deepthroats anymore like on that past sextape, mkay?"
This is a manipulative tactic employed by women with regards to this issue. It's also incredibly disingenuous.
It shames men for predicting a woman's future behavior based on her past (which we've already established is normal for pretty much everything in life). It also allows women to escape judgment and once again redefine themselves as high SMV women, which they are NOT anymore.
It also fundamentally misunderstands what is important to men. The solipsism of women assumes that because women's long-term goal is a steady beta bucks relationship, that must obviously be the most important thing to men as well; men should want to give beta bucks away. Thus, all of her past is null & void, because the "important thing" is that she is ready to commit and settle down RIGHT NOW. Nothing else matters to her...so why should it matter to the man?
Chalk it up to the male ego or pride, but men take "ownership" of mostly everything in their lives. As fathers, husbands...even as car owners (guys have named their cars/boats female names since ages ago). The role of men is as stewards of society and family units...and what those in our charge do definitely reflects back on us. Men are also competitive and a perceived inability to handle our shit is poisonous to our self-image.
In that context, one can easily understand why we don't like the idea of our gf getting pounded 5-ways in a bathroom and then our friends/family finding out about it. We're now the bf who allowed our gf to get nailed to the urinal wall. No thanks.
TL;DR a) Society gives women a free pass on their sexual behavior; it's regarded as a non-topic. b) This problem exists because bluepill men enable these behaviors (high SMV men receive the criticism). c) Men care about this because we care about sex, and our masculinity is defined by how sexual-able we are (and yes, we prefer our masculinity to be this way). d) Women who try to sexually "redefine" themselves are being disingenuous and not fooling anyone.
On a personal note, I have ZERO issue with a woman being promiscuous, cause that's who I fuck; the problem is when women are promiscuous yet pretend they aren't while also demanding the same things they observe non-promiscuous women receiving (i.e. multiple dates from men, marriage, etc).