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[–]therandomthrowaway 165 points166 points  (50 children)

My favourite response to girls who say they don't cook or think the idea of a woman needing to know how to cook is sexist is to ask them if they plan to have children. The answer is almost always yes, and the followup is simple: "How were you going to feed them? Buy takeout every single meal? If you can't cook for them, you can't nourish them. You can't even care for their basic physical needs. You're a shitty mother, and you haven't even started yet."

[–]1thrownaway_MGTOW 81 points82 points  (46 children)

How were you going to feed them? Buy takeout every single meal? If you can't cook for them, you can't nourish them.

No silly Rabbit, not every meal.

  1. Breakfast is easy -- cold sugar-loaded cereal* or pop-tarts.

  2. Lunch -- that's the government/school's problem.

  3. Supper -- take away or "take & bake" or frozen dinner or restaurant, or something from the deli, or probably just let them have chips & soda as a "special treat".

See... women don't need to cook for their kids, and take-out would only be about once a week.

/S


* And make no mistake, this was a collusion of not only industry, and media (sustained by advertising) but also of government. Remember all the shit about meat (especially bacon or sausages) and eggs being "evil"? Well that plays right into the "cereal & juice" (i.e. sugar-coated carbs & HFCS laden drinks) are "better" for you... Industry (Kellogs, et al) want that promoted, and so does media (how much advertising does the "Egg council" do? versus how much will be done by the various "different" brands/flavors of cereal and other similar "breakfast foods"? Eggs are basically just "eggs"... they are generally speaking pretty much locally "grown" -- there is little than can be done to them in the way of "branding" -- and thus little that can enhance profit margins; cereal on the other hand, can be extruded and molded into countless thousands of different shapes, have almost endless color and artificial flavor introduced, as well as being "puffed" in ways that give the illusion of bulk/volume even though the actual food-content & nutritional value is decreased).

And then of course government also colluded on the back end via farm & so called "price support" (i.e. market manipulation) policies; the "natural" free market (even with all of it's advertising) was only able to get consumers to eat a small amount of such processed breakfast foods, the preference (even after DECADES of effort by Kellogg et al) of most people was still for an "eggs & bacon" meal in the morning (in part because it was factually CHEAPER and more readily accessible, had dozens of variations in form & flavors) ... so the government had to step in, regulate (basically END) local egg-production (making them far more expensive), increase the pricing of chicken feed... and conversely subsidize the production of high-volume corn & grain & (artificial HFCS) sweetener production to provide the literal "grist" for the cereal mill companies, who then had lower (indeed "trivial") product costs, and could instead focus on packaging & advertising (which is also subsidized in the sense of being allowed to be written off/expensed from tax accounting, something that is taken for granted, but is FAR from obvious -- ask yourself why YOU can't "deduct" your basic necessity expenses {food, rent, clothing} and only be taxed on the "profit", but that industry can deduct whatever the fuck it spends, no matter how ridiculous to "promote" it's product sales... that too is a "policy" choice, not some "law of nature").

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    [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 56 points57 points  (1 child)

    6 year old me wants to trade pokemon

    [–]boscoist 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    12 year old me hated this meal plan. Granted it was only BK for a week, but I was nearly Ill by the end of it. Same goes for a 2 week vacation where we ate out 90% of the time, I fucked up my GI regularity by skipping out on veggies.

    [–]through_a_ways 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    That makes 2 children who approve the meal plan.

    [–]john-b 30 points31 points  (32 children)

    Yeah, it's only mainly leftists who want to shift responsibility from themselves onto others. That's why communism and all it's derivatives are so popular as an idea. It plays on the natural human want of reverting back to a child-like state where all necessities are provided & all you do is have fun and do whatever you want.

    In my province the alternative political party was recently railing against the province for not "getting with the times" and providing a tax-funded school lunch program (never mind any school that sought a school lunch program accomplished it through private charities & donations & fundraisers just fine).

    They pointed to a bunch of data saying a child who eats lunch does better in school.. They missed the whole point. The fundamental question was whos damn responsibility is it to take care of the child? The parents thats what.

    They then pointed out that "not all parents can afford lunches for their child" and I'm willing to bet if you examined nearly every case you'd find one of GayLubeOil's expertly defined north american women.

    If you can afford victorias secret thongs, you aint broke. If you can afford starbucks every other day, you aint broke. If you can afford booze every weekend, you aint broke. If you can afford the gym membership so mommy can do squats + tanning, you aint broke.

    If you can afford all these things as a mother yet not pack your child a lunch, you aint broke, you're just a piece of shit.

    [–]eyesareitchy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Describes 100% of the people I've known who are regularly broke.

    [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

    The real reason the government provides school lunches is that it leads to healthier 18 year old boys. Which means more healthy men to draft into war.

    [–]1thrownaway_MGTOW 2 points3 points  (7 children)

    Yeah, it's only mainly leftists who want to shift responsibility from themselves onto others. That's why communism and all it's derivatives are so popular as an idea.

    Well, I would argue that it (alas) isn't only the "leftists" -- in part because the concept of "entitlement" (and the disavowal of any responsibility or necessity of effort) has become such a popular meme/line of thought that it is no longer at the left extreme (communist/socialist) nor of the right extreme (fascist), but that those extremes (which are but two sides of the same totalitarian coin) have so entrenched themselves that it is now the "center" or mainstream.

    Hell, even "conservatives" (so called, and ironic because whatever they were purportedly "conserving" has been long lost, conceded and compromised away) -- are bound up in the collusion; just via a different rationale.

    It plays on the natural human want of reverting back to a child-like state where all necessities are provided & all you do is have fun and do whatever you want.

    I think it not only plays on -- but it does everything it can to create, foster, and even FORCE people back into (or more correctly to stay in) that mode -- it is the long-term fulfillment of an "infantilization" scheme, one which took generations of stage-by-stage infiltration to achieve.

    The modern "prolonged adolescence" (not only through the teen years, but now through the 20's and even up to -- if not beyond -- age 30) is no accident. Nor is it some natural "evolutionary" requirement of higher technology nor adaptation to wider societal affluence.

    It is the opposite -- it is a conscious* policy driven thing: everything from the carefully staged/managed, dragged out (and thus delayed/debilitated) curriculum in schools; to child-labor laws (you are rendered incapable of supporting yourself, but via the quite ingeniously aimed policy of forbidding people from hiring you), to the mandatory/compulsory schooling through age 16 (and in some cases/regions even a dropout is required to get a "work permit" from their local school before they can obtain legitimate employment, and then the hours are limited); to the funding/grants -- not to mention pervasive indoctrination and "guidance" -- that encourage (nay drive) young people to delay entering the workforce for many years beyond...

    Rendering them far less than "full citizens"; and indeed doing virtually everything possible to maintain and to even "fetter" or "hobble" them into remaining irresponsible "quasi-children" far below what they are naturally/organically capable of being.

    *Albeit based entirely on disingenuous/dishonest rationale(s).


    They pointed to a bunch of data saying a child who eats lunch does better in school.. They missed the whole point. The fundamental question was whos damn responsibility is it to take care of the child? The parents thats what.

    I would argue that they DIDN'T "miss" the whole point.

    The shifting of responsibility AWAY from parents was entirely intentional. The "socialist" goal has always been to disable/dismember the family, and to achieve (take steps towards) the eventual "state" (aka "village") control of infants & raising/indoctrination of children-- if they could manage it, they would remove infants from parental care the instant after they were weaned (if not before), and having thus removed them entirely from the "dysfunctional" family (especially any "patriarchal" one) and place them into a full-time government-controlled boarding-school system. And every aspect has been to slowly -- step by step -- move towards that goal: kindergarten, 4-year old kindergarten, various "day-care" etc -- these are all just stepping-stones along that path.

    They then pointed out that "not all parents can afford lunches for their child" and I'm willing to bet if you examined nearly every case you'd find one of GayLubeOil's expertly defined north american women.

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    If you can afford all these things as a mother yet not pack your child a lunch, you aint broke, you're just a piece of shit.

    Actually if you spend your money on various nonsense, then you are doing exactly what the system wants -- you are indeed being a "piece of shit" in terms of parenting...

    But that simply reinforces (proves) the "socialist" theory that the natural family-structure (however decimated, debilitated and undermined) is hugely "dysfunctional" -- see you can't even feed them, even when we GIFT you the means to do so!

    And thus that it must give way to the state (Hilary Clinton's gynocentric "village") as being "more responsible" and "more caring" (even though it should be patently obvious -- at least to anyone with eyes to see -- that said state's factory-style system is anything BUT responsible OR caring, and that it's "product" is {at best} inferior, is {on average} virtually useless, and {at worst} becomes psychotic and "sociopathic" {society-destroying} level criminality).

    [–]Just_Like_You 7 points8 points  (15 children)

    That's why communism and all it's derivatives are so popular as an idea. It plays on the natural human want of reverting back to a child-like state where all necessities are provided & all you do is have fun and do whatever you want.

    I really don't think you get the ideas behind communism. Everyone, I mean everyone is to work.

    Imagine a socialist/corporatist market society (like the United States). Now imagine that corporate profits are divided equally among the employees of each company instead of paid out to people who do zero work (investors).

    If you work, you're in. If you don't, you're still out.

    The general idea is that capitalism is flawed because people are able to draw huge amounts of income from doing nothing. All they do is provide capital (hence, capitalism) and rake in cash.

    "It takes money to make money" is absolutely true, and is a law of capitalist system.

    The idea of communism is to remove the leaches who produce nothing (investors who inherited wealth and don't work) by implementing state programs to invest in companies which divide profits between co-owners/employees.

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      [–]ThePragmatist42 5 points6 points  (6 children)

      Do you really believe the investors do zero work? I can't tell if you are being serious or not. The investors have the most to lose in this situation. Without the investors the employees wouldn't have a place to work so they can buy internet to go online to complain about the investors.

      [–]tentacle_kisses 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Look at that, my white suburban childhood feeding pattern.

      [–]infernalsatan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      "I don't have to cook. I will just buy takeout, and my husband will pay for them"

      [–]1IVIaskerade 38 points39 points  (7 children)

      I will forever be thankful that my mother saw fit to instill in me an appreciation for healthy food and good cookery.

      [–]2 Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 26 points27 points  (6 children)

      Me too, and she read us books and helped with homework, and made us sack lunches instead of just buying a crappy school lunch. My mom also hated feminism and said Hilary Clinton was a bitch for denigrating stay-at-home-mothers and being a career woman. My parents knew what was up.

      [–]jamesez501 14 points15 points  (5 children)

      My mother would always scold me when I was little and wanted junk, she'd prepare me nutritious meals all day every day, and even for my school lunch. She knew everything was processed garbage and she raised me on her own. I owe her the world, and it is horrible to see the contrast in other modern mothers today. Shameful.

      [–]foldpak111 9 points10 points  (4 children)

      Lucky man you are. My parents were the typical sob story. Dead beat dad I never saw, mother was bring home a new guy every weekend and fed me garbage.

      [–]jamesez501 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      At least you know you're better than they will ever be.

      [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      Did mommy's special friends bring you toys? Thats usually the silver lining in that situation.

      [–]foldpak111 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      They found out she had a kid, then they dipped. I don't blame them though, I would too. I wouldn't wanna get tangled up in a single mother. If you go around at age 17 having unprotected sex, you are a narcissist. Bringing a child into this world without establishing a career is insane. Fuck that noise.

      [–]Tarn_Delus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Bringing a child into this world without establishing a career is insane.

      Bringing a new guy over every weekend, hoping one would stay and provide for her and the kid is her idea of a career.

      [–]joaquim56 173 points174 points  (110 children)

      GayLubeOil, are you familiar that American food companies, the ones who marketed crap convenience foods allied themselves with the women's liberation movement, basically denigrating home cook meals and destroying a heritage of home cooking in the process?

      Destroying and marginalizing home cooking was something that 60s feminism and food companies did hand in hand sadly, providing a precursor the obesity epidemic.

      [–]IProbablyHaveEbola 93 points94 points  (96 children)

      It's sad that among most of my friends and acquaintances the men are the primary cooks in their families. They burned their cook books after they burned their bras it seems. Men are better cooks anyways.

      [–]Rathadin 93 points94 points  (6 children)

      Traditionally, all the best chefs have been men anyway.

      [–]ddundly 269 points270 points  (2 children)

      Traditionally, all the best everything has been men anyway.

      [–]Greekzack 24 points25 points  (2 children)

      Of course, I've never been to a BBQ with a female standing over the grill. Imagine a women of today trying to clean a grill, id pay to see that.

      [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

      My mom destroyed our last barbecue because she never cleaned it after she used it. I gave her that simple bit of advice and she never once listened. My dad bought her a new one this year.

      [–]trpintrper 26 points27 points  (0 children)

      Just to watch her destroy another one.

      [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 47 points48 points  (42 children)

      If you lift seriously you're going to need about 3 to 4k calories of healthy food. You have no choice but to cook.

      [–]MysterManager 12 points13 points  (13 children)

      You also need to properly define healthy foods. The country has been waging a war on fat for the last 30 years, so now people buy everything labeled non fat. There are many studies now that show that to be bullshit, people replaces all fats with complex carbohydrates and they are not filling so people eat tons of them. The result to the war on fat is the highest obesity rates, highest diabetes rates and just as much heart disease as ever.

      The studies now show that people in countries that use unrefined coconut oil, has around 65% saturated fat, not only has no adverse effects but they actually have higher life expectancy. There are British studies now that associate larger obesity numbers among those who drink skim milk, milk stripped of fats and nutrients, to higher obesity numbers with those who comsume whole milk.

      I just got through watching, Pumping Iron, a great documentary about body building in the 70's I have seen many times. I remember seeing the dinner table at Lou Ferrigno's house, he lived with his parents as he was being trained by his dad. They already had fried chicken with spaghetti on the table and she was about to serve a lasagna on top of that! To a man body building with a 6'5" near 290 lbs, in his prime with near zero body fat. He is also in his 60's now and in great shape. I am going out on a limb to say you won't find italian food or fried chicken on any of the foods the government tells us to consume for health reasons.

      Typed on phone not reviewed expect errors.

      [–]john-b 11 points12 points  (11 children)

      I know exactly what you mean and have done some research in the area as well. Fat doesn't make you fat, and there are a lot of healthy natural fats. Processed fats like trans fats are bad for you, though.

      I believe the fatness comes from Sugars, especially with the advent of high fructose corn syrup.

      I'm picking up a hobby now of homebrewing my own softdrinks, going to use nothing but natural ingredients and way less sugar than the leading soft drinks out there.

      [–]2 Mredpillschool 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      I believe the fatness comes from Sugars, especially with the advent of high fructose corn syrup.

      100% Agreed. Carbs and sugar caused the obesity epidemic. Human's diets have always been high fat. It wasn't until we demonized fat and glorified carbs that we started to growwww.

      [–]Dathisofegypt 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      I'm opening up a soda brewery soon hopefully. Need any tips or tricks hit me up.

      [–]MysterManager 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      I primarly drink tea, unsweetened or very lightly sweet. I have since reading certain studies moved to whole milk, I have a two year old anyway, but I noticed immediatly anything over a cup a day I find over filling. I changed lunch into a smoothie meal; many mixed berries a couple of bananas, yogurt and whatever else healthy I need thrown in. It is easier for me to drink nutrients than try to eat them.

      I was pretty heavy, 230 lbs at 6'1", about 20 of it pure fat. I am back down now to 210 with some fat still to shed, but added muscle mass.

      [–]1niczar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      CVD is the lowest and life expectancy is the longest of Western Europe in France, and we do love our cheeses.

      The lethality formerly attributed to saturated fats probably belongs to nitrite/nitrate preservatives. That's why I avoid preserved meats and most sausages. Interestingly the only place where I've found sausages without them is LIDL, the German discount retailer. Despite being ultra low cost, they're really serious about removing unnecessary additives and particularly trans fats.

      [–]foldpak111 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      Why aren't you endorsed anymore?

      [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      still endorsed

      [–]IProbablyHaveEbola 17 points18 points  (1 child)

      Amen to that. Shit gets old fast. I've had to learn to actually cook (not just zap shit in the microwave) since I started lifting again. Fucking expensive too. Rib eye with stuffed jalapeno peppers for dinner tonight, yum!

      [–]john-b 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      I guess I was fortunate that the males of my family all have a natural interest in cooking. Great grandfather was a chef specializing in baked goods. Was employed by the gov of Canada and made the visiting Queen of England a gourmet cake in the shape the crown jewels. She liked it so much she gave him a special award.

      Grandfather cooks his whole life. As does my father. As do I.

      [–]john-b 5 points6 points  (4 children)

      A friend of mine has the delightful advantage of having polish parents who grew up in Poland. Every time he comes out with us he brings his home cooked food with him prepared by his mother. Breaded chicken, gigantic buckets of fresh fruits, wholesome potato dishes and more.

      [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      My great grandfather looted a car, a stove and tons of other shit from Poland in WW2. #winning

      [–]Kellermann 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      Your GGF must have been Russian

      [–]johnbranflake 3 points4 points  (13 children)

      A frozen pizza has 60g of protein.

      [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 16 points17 points  (8 children)

      and three thousand calories

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        [–]1niczar 10 points11 points  (4 children)

        Since I started /r/keto, I never experience cravings nor post meal crashes. That alone is worth the trouble.

        [–]rabblerabble8 5 points6 points  (3 children)

        Keto gets a ton of hate on reddit for being "broscience", but it's a godsend for anyone who is obese/overweight. It's amazing how fucked you are when you eat a high carb, heavily processed diet.

        [–]djvita 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        the thing is not to completely remove carbs, that's a recipe for disaster. i still eat low hypoglycemic fruits like apples cucumbers and jicama, baked beans and all bran are my carb sources. lost 6 pounds so far in 3 months.

        [–]rabblerabble8 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Except that it's not for the thousands who do it, my sister's fiance included. The "recipe for disaster" is a common myth purported by people who say to "eat a balanced diet" which many use as a cop out to eat whatever they want.

        People who go on a /r/keto diet lose any where from 30-45 lbs in 3 months, and are even healthier than when they started. I really suggest you look into it if you are trying to lose more weight.

        [–]Thursday088 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        I can get around 70g of protein out of 8oz of chicken breast for 350-400 calories +/- a few depending on how it is prepared, throw down a side of broccoli and I have more nutrients and satiety than you will ever find in a frozen pizza for around 1/3 of the calories.

        [–]erqos 55 points56 points  (33 children)

        the men are the primary cooks in their families.

        So men are the primary cooks as well as the primary breadwinners. Women won't clean and can't be bothered to raise the children properly. After securing a man, they won't put out. They let their looks go, and have an attitude to match. So what the heck are they good for then? Modern women are useless detritus.

        [–]1Ill_mumble_that 34 points35 points  (30 children)

        Most of them? They are useful for one night and then quickly discarded.

        I will say however, I do enjoy cooking. I make the food taste the way I would enjoy it, and it just so happens everyone else likes it too. My wife doesn't make suggestions for dinner, she comes to me begging for the delicious flavors I provide. Our dinner invitations are like golden tickets to her social circle, "a man that can cook better than most restaurants!" Of course she cleans up, does dishes, does laundry, vacuums, etc. She is well aware how good she has it and the envy of her female friends as they watch me at work doing something they can't: basic cooking.

        But the sad thing is. I'm not a miracle chef. I just follow high-rated recipes on allrecipes.com and don't make gross shit. I think whats really happened is that most restaraunts have gone down in taste and quality, there is no competition at home except for microwave dinners and frozen pizza. Anything homemade tastes amazing simply because it isn't the highly processed shit that is commonly passed off as a meal.

        [–]HahahahaWaitWhat 20 points21 points  (17 children)

        The younger single girls are even worse. Throw some butter and eggs in a pan in the morning and they look at you like you just turned water into wine.

        [–]john-b 2 points3 points  (16 children)

        holy shit, are you serious?

        [–]Dathisofegypt 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        I can attest to this. Learn to slow poach an egg in butter and serve on toast and some woman will look at you like a cooking Deity Learn to make a burger that taste better than most and your only seasoning was salt and the fat from the burger and you get promoted to cooking God.

        [–]ganjamonsta 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Sadly, he is mostly serious. I think Applebee's is one of the worst offenders with everything being cooked by 'chef mike'

        [–]boscoist 9 points10 points  (11 children)

        Unfortunately he is. In college a couple chicks invited me over for "spaghetti"... they cooked the pasta and upended a can of bland as fuck tomato sauce. I won't claim that I cheat on using premade sauce, but I use that as a starting point, not the damn finish line, you still need to add a real flavor profile and some meat. Every single time I cook it for people they can't get enough of it.

        [–]ilphae 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        red wine in the sauce bro - never merlot, usually cabernet

        [–]12FAM0US 27 points28 points  (6 children)

        you would be amazed how many restaurants microwave frozen shit and serve it to you for $12 im talking fish, meat, vegetables a lot of it comes from the same food supplier (my mother works for one such supplier). do you think the shift manager at iHop is out cultivating the wheat to make his pancakes? its no wonder homecook meals taste better than even restaurants. everything is mass produced nowadays. thats why my girl and i basically stopped dining out. she makes it better, and healthier, for half the price!and i can eat it in my underwear.

        [–]through_a_ways 2 points3 points  (4 children)

        All it takes is a tiny bit of common sense and the internet, and you have food better than 8/10 restaurants out there.

        [–]Stormhammer 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        No kidding. I learned how to make singapore noodles for $20, fed 6 people.

        [–]wheresmysmokes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Yep. I used to love going out for steak, but it's not worth it anymore now that I know how to cook it really well (medium rare, of course). For less half the cost of going to a restaurant, my food is wayyy better.

        [–]boscoist 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        Not everywhere, though if you guys want to see how bad the race to the bottom is and the eventually impact of hitting the bottom you should check out Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares (both UK and US versions, netflix has/had both). He's also alpha as fuck and is a great guy all around if you play it straight.

        [–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        So what the heck are they good for then?

        Sex, and that's the only thing you should use them for.

        [–]yougonnagetit 15 points16 points  (5 children)

        Sad enough, all my male friends cookfor themselves and none of my female friends do. Absolutely baffling to the older generations I'm sure.

        [–]AnotherLostCause 19 points20 points  (3 children)

        Men judge themselves and judge other men on what they can do. Cooking is just one more checkmark on the list.

        [–]MickeyRoarick 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        I'm reminded of an anecdote from Michael Jordan's biography, I'll paraphrase:

        In college I wasn't getting any dates and I was convinced I was ugly and would never get a woman interested in me. So I knew I'd have to learn how to cook or I'd starve, and that's what I did. Thankfully women started to become interested in me once I grew taller and started doing well on the basketball court.

        Men learning how to cook (besides being a practical skill) is also a survival mechanism in a world of MGTOW and feminism. By yourself you should learn how to cook, and if you're with a modern woman you're also going to have to.

        I have yet to meet a single woman who can cook anywhere near as well as me. Typically they bake desserts or make mac&cheese, nothing else.

        For the older generation like my father they purposefully didn't learn how to cook and just bounced around finding relationships or eating takeout. Compare that to when my friend went to S.America and the women there would insist that he come over and he relax while they cooked delicious meals, followed by sex. That's how you get a man. I forget the saying, full stomach and empty balls, girls know this phrase but laugh it off because they know nothing about what it means for a princess like them.

        [–]Just_Like_You 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        One of my great-grandmother's last bits of advice to my sisters and me was "never trust a man who can cook, and never trust a woman who can't."

        It's amazing how different the generations are. Then again, when she was a kid she literally had a horse-drawn cart and no electricity or plumbing.

        [–]PhilipeNegro 6 points7 points  (2 children)

        My mother taught me how to cook so I wouldn't have to rely on a woman to do it for me. I've come to love it and appreciate the freedom it affords me.

        I call and thank her every time I muscle through some internet-assembled slop an enlightened snowflake with a disengaged, careerist mother prepared.

        [–]through_a_ways 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        I call and thank her every time I muscle through some internet-assembled slop

        If you're using the internet to cook, everything you make should be at least an 8/10 by normal people's standards.

        It's fucking idiotproof, browse 3 or 4 recipes, average them, add/remove any small changes you want, cook.

        What's actually hard, and can result in actual slop, is cooking impromptu without any recipe, formal training, and without using universally appealing ingredients (garlic butter, etc.). Especially when using heavy spices or baking.

        [–]gravgp2003 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        If you're using the internet to cook, everything you make should be at least an 8/10 by normal people's standards.

        True and it is sad really. The internet is a great resource for recipes and when I do make things from it, I always go with the SIMPLE ones. Honestly, the best foods are simple anyways. My mom used to cook for me everyday when I lived with her. Reading this thread makes me realize how awesome my mom was. Those meals were cash.

        [–]FrenchMaybe 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        I cook for myself and my friends (if they come over), I don't need a woman to cook for me but if I'm coming home from work and I'm super tired then she better have something ready.

        [–]Elodrian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I have really enjoyed the last two seasons of Hannibal, in large part because I like watching Mads Mikkelsen working in the kitchen and presenting his dishes to his guests. His character is the kind of self-actualized modern man I aspire to be.

        [–]The_TRP_Account 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        That's nuts. I look at my mom's freezer on occasion and there are always, at the same time:

        1) Full Size Pizza

        2) Ellio's Pizza

        3) Pizza Rolls

        4) Individual Pizzas

        I asked her what kind of mental disorder she has with this pizza fixation/laziness.

        [–]djvita 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        fuck even when i have pizza, like once every two months as a victory meal, i eat only two slices. that pizza lasts a workweek

        [–]enjoythesurface 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        I would love to have a source for this.

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          [–]Dick-Tracy 2 points3 points  (4 children)

          I don't disbelieve you, but have you got a source?

          [–]joaquim56 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Food writer Michael Pollan writes about it The Omnivore's Dilemma. Worth a read.

          [–]ChauvOtoo 26 points27 points  (0 children)

          My wife spent hours on cooking homemade baby food for my kids when they transitioned to solid foods.

          I mean, fucking going and picking the apples off a trees when they were ripe and canning them for the year and shit. Everything was homemade and preservative free.

          Thankfully, we live outside the US; but, we do still have access to US processed junk shit. My kids refuse to eat it. Tomorrow when they go out for Halloween, they will be excited to get all the candy and will eat about 10% of it. The rest will go into the jar at work so I can hear the ham-beast moan about how it's my fault they are stuffing their faces and getting fat.

          [–]justskatedude 17 points18 points  (8 children)

          "American women are shallow narcissists who minimize the time they spend on their children so can maximize the time they spend on themselves"

          According to my mother, my success is determined by my initiative. Her job is to only make dinner and make sure I follow her rules. What kind of parenting is that? When I have kids I will be much more proactive and not enforce "clan rules" on my children but develop individual autonomous people who can think for themselves. Too often, women perceive their children as a possession and expect them to turn out like them, instead of encouraging open thought and helping a autonomous individual develop.

          But what could I expect from a woman who circumcised me because she wanted to go with the "flow."

          [–]wheresmysmokes 5 points6 points  (2 children)

          You know, before I met my current boyfriend it didn't even occur to me not to circumcise a male baby. It's not like if I'd had one it would have been a conscious choice weighing the options. It took almost no convincing for me to realize that it's pretty fucked up, but I wouldn't have thought twice about it if it wasn't brought to my attention as anything but a "fringe alternative"! I think the internet is doing a great job at shaking the status quo and making people re-evaluate the quality of how they are living their lives. (Edited for typos)

          [–]pissoutofmyass 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Whats interesting is that 40% of American males are not circumcised, and the majority of the world's males are not circumcised. Circumcision is a fringe alternative to having your entire penis.

          [–]Anarki3x6 2 points3 points  (4 children)

          RIP justskatedude's foreskin.

          That's one of the reasons I'm glad I wasn't born in the USA, nevertheless, I don't mind having lived here for most of my life so far..

          This society really messed up the female side of my family though for sure and that alone took its toll on me and my dad.

          [–]justskatedude 2 points3 points  (3 children)

          USA is ok but its definitely not the best place to live anymore. Our political system is so fucked up and we have the majority of the population ignorant on most political issues. The mere fact that people deny global warming and evolution makes me disrespect my fellow countrymen. I don't know when "facts" became open to interpretation, oh wait, that was when we lowered our campaign regulation and allowed money to influence politics.

          Other countries have problems too, I don't mean to bash america because thats my country, but we need to plagiarize other countries good laws and stop thinking we are superior to everyone.

          [–]Audball766 49 points50 points  (15 children)

          As a mother, this drives me sooo crazy! I can't stand how some parents, especially mothers, treat their children as just a side effect of their life! Your family should be your top priority! Always. I am a house wife and I feel very strongly about that. Now, I'm not saying every woman has to stay at home, but you should be putting all the effort you can into your family life. Now, I love to cook and bake, though I'm aware not every woman does, but it isn't HARD. You may not enjoy it, but it is not difficult. Your family's health is everything. How can a woman not care about that? My husband and I buy organic and I cook from scratch. My son is home schooled so he is with me all day. I have the luxury of being able to just jump up and prepare him something whenever he is hungry. I cook for my husband on demand. For women who work, meals can be prepared ahead of time and stored in as individual servings. Simple things like yogurt, fruit and veggies take no real preparation and should always be on hand. It's also simple to not buy junk in the first place! Don't keep a bunch of sugary convenience foods on hand and your family's health will improve! Now in my house, we do eat sugar, but not constantly. Our sweets are pretty much whatever I bake from scratch and it's a once-a-day treat. My son knows he can have one small portion of something sweet a day and he has to choose wisely. It really upsets me to see women who let their children have ungodly amounts of sugar at any and all hours, junk, and caffeine even! Holy hell, toddlers having caffeine! So infuriating...

          The lack of mind expansion is truly something to behold. Most women do set their kids in front of the TV all day so they don't have to parent them. (My step sister is quite good at this.) Read to your damn children!! Explain things to them! Take the time to answer questions! My son just turned 4 and can read. He is capable of reading his Garfield comics on his own and most of Calvin and Hobbes. (Some pretty large words in the latter.) I feel like that is pretty normal, but people flip out about that. I bet a whole hell of a lot more kids could be doing it too if they were being read to and interacted with correctly!

          This post has me a bit fired up, so sorry for that. I just see and hear more and more about feminism and women's entitlement and blah blah blah, and considering how bad children/family life has gone to shit already, it is just really frustrating...

          [–]ThanksRoissy 17 points18 points  (5 children)

          Why would women care about their family when they can make 50K a year as a wage slave? Families are secondary to making that money and proving they can be worker drones as well as men.

          [–]Audball766 24 points25 points  (2 children)

          That's something that blows my mind too. My family lives well on less than that a year! Usually both partners work so they can have more STUFF. How much of it is really necessary? And look at how much more time you have to spend away from your family to get it? How is bringing up happy, healthy children and a happy marriage not more important? And spending more time with your husband and making sure his home and children are stable is going to make him happy, and therefor the woman as well. I HATE this attitude of "I'm an independent woman! I don't need a man!" We should need and WANT each other. It's fucking designed that way!

          These feminists doing all the bitching just need to be shipped off to an island together. No worry of men trying to control them or "eye rape" them and they can all fuck each other. Men are apparently useless, so they should be thrilled.

          [–]MickeyRoarick 11 points12 points  (1 child)

          These feminists doing all the bitching just need to be shipped off to an island together. No worry of men trying to control them or "eye rape" them and they can all fuck each other. Men are apparently useless, so they should be thrilled.

          Who told you of the Patriarchy's evil plan??!

          [–]duckspeed 16 points17 points  (1 child)

          Your family should be your top priority

          I love to cook and bake

          Read to your damn children

          Yesss. Your son is a lucky little fellow.

          [–]Audball766 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          Thank you, I appreciate it! My husband's mother was never around and he jokes all the time about how our son has no idea how lucky he is to have a cook on hand 24/7. Today is his lucky day, too. I told him we can make a chocolate cake today and we will splurge and make fudge frosting! I feel like even if a woman doesn't have the knack to greatly excel at it, cooking is still a skill she should acquire. It's such a basic thing and I always feel badly when I see a man with a wife/gf who can't/won't. BTW, I have come to learn that women HATE a woman who can cook/bake. Especially older women. I have upset a few elderly ladies at this point! IMO, cooking is the thing most associated with feminine skills and it's also a basic human requirement. (You have to eat to live and what you eat determines your health!) People are always going to need to eat and everyone loves to. If you prepare something and a woman's husband enjoys it too much... Watch the claws come out! It shakes them to the core of their very femininity and they feel very threatened. It's an interesting scenario, though upsetting for thosw of us who like to give away baked goods to be kind!

          [–]wakingslowdiver 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          you're doing the right thing and never let feminist dumbasses tell you otherwise

          [–]Audball766 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Thankfully, I haven't dealt with feminism too directly. I live in the deep south. Women here are chomping at the bit to get a man to help them! Most women around here always need a man around to help pay bills and take care of their kids from previous men. I don't get comments on it much anymore, but we actively stay away from people for the most part as we don't want to deal with trash/drama. Surprisingly though, most of the comments I have received were from older women! Bitter, I suppose.

          [–]HeisenV 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Reading and talking to your child is the single most important thing you can do to improve their odds at being successful. If you can't be bothered to teach your child anything, how can you expect a complete stranger that wound up in a teaching position by some whimsical twist of fate to do it for you?

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            [–]Audball766 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Another good reason to stay home once you have children. Or just don't have any.

            [–]Blaw40 11 points12 points  (2 children)

            This is true! My Mom is South American and damn, she brags about how she cooks food for her family and, "you Americans only know hotdogs and hamburgers and microwave dinners".

            [–]cheeruptitty 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            My mom is south asian and does the same :p

            [–]AlkanKorsakov 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            South American here too, I can't believe what my mother does is above and beyond when compared to American mothers here. She's just doing what every good mother has ever done in history. Might have to move back and deal with the shit to get a proper family now that simply not being fat, or ugly, or a bitch, and being a decent mother makes you a 10/10 unicorn.

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              [–]Endorsed Contributornyrp 7 points8 points  (2 children)

              Not cool. There's nothing on this test about the African-American experience!

              I don't see any questions that Trans students can relate to!

              Would it kill you to make a test that dared to treat women like actual human beings!

              [–]Saturnalia93 5 points6 points  (2 children)

              1. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each.

              They don't even teach geography in our schools anymore. It's a fucking disgrace.

              [–]stilllearningsed 43 points44 points  (18 children)

              I love my mother but, I've lost most of my respect for her. I've had to train SO MUCH out of myself because of how she raised me. Unfortunately my father is deep blue and didn't help the situation.

              Cooking for the family is one of those things she goes on and on about being this burden that was just expected of her, thanklessly. However, I remember the polite child I was thanking her for all our cooked meals and making some comment about how good it tasted, with the exception of some vegetables my parents allowed me to be picky about.

              Once I moved out on my own, I quickly discovered that most of my favorite home-cooked meals were pretty damn easy and quick to make. I, fairly quickly, became proficient in the kitchen and, even still plugged in, recognized the overblown nature of my mother's rants about 'Slaving Over the Stove'. I made mention of how easy to prepare my favorite meals were some point after this and it was like I'd slapped her. I got an ear full about how cooking for a whole family was SO MUCH more work.

              My monthly expenses are always the lowest when I'm cooking for myself, rather than eating out(obviously) or being lazy and eating preprepared meals. Buying your meat and veggies raw and putting in the prep work is healthier AND cheaper. Most of the people that tell you healthy is more expensive either haven't tried or are going the yuppie 'expensive organic everything' route. Apples to oranges or something like that.

              [–]b00m_shakalaka 35 points36 points  (5 children)

              My own mom also used the same "slaving over the stove" spiel. Christ. Cooking is significantly easier than any job I've held, whether I'm cooking for one or six. Especially nowadays, where you can measure shit, use recipes, and have timers, microwaves and consistent stove flames. It's impossible to burn something unless you zone out on the job or aren't fully literate. Cooking might have been difficult a couple of hundred years ago, I'll give you that.

              [–]jiveraffe 13 points14 points  (1 child)

              Cooking is significantly easier than any job I've held, whether I'm cooking for one or six.

              The difficulty factor in scaling a meal up from one to six is only peeling a few extra carrots, chopping some extra ingredients, and using larger pans. If anything it's easier with a division of labor: I cook, you clean.

              [–]boscoist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Oh hell yea. The issue I've had has never been scaling up a meal, its been in scaling down to reduce waste. I've been shitty and lazy though.

              [–]stolidfact 7 points8 points  (0 children)

              In a way, yes. Uneven environments meant that it required a mastery of the core dynamics underlying food: heat, timing, flavor combinations. But the life also followed a cadence. EG, milk in the morning, have clabber at night. And growing up with the skills from a young age made for an ability to have those skills early on.

              [–]foldpak111 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              I cook every single meal I eat. I also train 3 hours a day, 5 hours of class, 3 hours of homework/study, and 2x30 minute stretching sessions. Women break over some heat and forearm work? That is not mother material and I could never affiliate myself with a woman who isn't. That's like a girl liking a guy that couldn't protect her children from other men. Pathetic.

              [–]the10thrider 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              LOL "slaving" over a stove. Jesus.

              Cooking is awesome. It's just like being in AP Chem except I get to eat what I make. Nothing like turning out "the best scrambled eggs I've ever had." Thanks Martha Stewart.

              [–]harkrank 19 points20 points  (1 child)

              I cook for 500 people per day. Of course it's nothing compared to feeding a family of two parents and two kids...

              [–]through_a_ways 14 points15 points  (0 children)

              Being a mother is the hardest job in the world.

              [–]Manuel_S 9 points10 points  (4 children)

              Actually, you can even go simpler.

              Just did dinner.

              Some broccoli and spinach, frozen, on microwave. Bit of olive oil and salt on top. Spent 1 min opening fridge and dropping it in, 4.30 min on the mwave.

              Good quantity here, a full bowl, I use these as the volume.

              Goats meat cut in pieces beforehand. Now braised on a pan, with some red pepper, salt, garlic. Yeah, goat, found a place you can get it and cheaper than cow too. I really like the taste.

              About 210 grams (weighed to check), bit less than half a pound after I took off a bit of lard. A bit much? Screw it, I like it.

              Finish the meat, drop mwaved veggies on pan, stir them a bit, plate.

              Bit of red wine (home made I bought from a farmer and the taxman didn't see a cent).

              Result:

              Took me about 8-9 min to prepare.

              Meat + veggies. No bread or shit. Nice quantity. BAM.

              Cheap, filling, healthy -I can keep doing this all month in any variation. Its not elaborate, but I like the taste and don't need the stews and stuff.

              [–]theprotestingmoose 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              Compare this attitude to that of the south american mother who loves to cook good food for her family. To see them happy, spoiled and full is a source of pride and happiness for her. This mother is also a vehicle for her culture by keeping alive traditional recipes and teaching them to her children. A duty which has been completely abandoned by western women.

              [–]_DiscoNinja_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

              I just spent 90 minutes cooking 16 macro balanced meals to keep me on track for the next week or so. I spent another fifteen minutes cleaning up so the me from 12 hours in the future won't wake up to a filthy kitchen.

              Shit ain't rocket science.

              [–]ThanksRoissy 32 points33 points  (61 children)

              While I agree with your general statement, I would like to point out some things:

              The only reason meat is cheap in America is because it is heavily, heavily subsidized. This alone is not a bad thing, but the rush to produce an abundance of profitable meat means that corners get cut and quality drops dramatically. There is no sustainability planning and the environmental costs are enormous.

              But I agree, good women who choose the father of their children wisely (rather than those that turn them on the most) make for a better society.

              [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 27 points28 points  (52 children)

              Fuck dude you've spotted my secret Pro Meat agenda.

              [–]ThanksRoissy 17 points18 points  (36 children)

              Go green or go home.

              But seriously, I don't think our society as we know it has another 50 years left, so it really doesn't matter.

              [–]erqos 15 points16 points  (33 children)

              50 years left? A bit optimistic aren't you. At least we're in agreement that there's no correcting this mess. Let's just all strap in to the proverbial handbasket and enjoy the ride to hell together. The best that we can hope for is that from the ashes of the ruins of this society, will arise a new one instilled with TRP values, one in which all men are disciplined to present a united front in all intersex relations. Regardless, the earth will continue to orbit the sun as usual.

              [–]ThanksRoissy 10 points11 points  (10 children)

              A lot of TRP values are religious values. I think this perfectly coincides with the rise and fall of civilizations and only religious 'patriarchal' cultures and beliefs surviving.

              I ranted about this many times.

              [–]muytemprano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Link to any of these rants? That's a great perspective.

              [–]Revo_Luzione 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Humans are like cockroaches. Some will survive the rubble of this civilization collapsing. And it will collapse, sooner or later. Maybe in 3-5 years, maybe in 30-50. It depends on a lot of resource flows, if they experience Black Swan type events or not, and how severe, how many, how close together.

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              REUTERS THURSDAY OCTOBER 30, 2014

              EARTH KNOCKED OUT OF ORBIT

              [–]ProjectShamrock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              50 years left? A bit optimistic aren't you. At least we're in agreement that there's no correcting this mess. Let's just all strap in to the proverbial handbasket and enjoy the ride to hell together.

              I'm curious why you think this. If you look at objective statistics, you'll see the quality of life improving dramatically over the past 100 years or so. Lifespans are basically longer than they've ever been in human history. We have better medical care and technology in general than has ever existed. Sure, things are cyclical, but I don't think we've reached a peak yet. I'm sure 100 years ago people were having the same argument, after the long depression and then leading up and into the great depression and WW2. Look at what came after WW2 though. Granted, we do have great risks and problems ahead of us but I see the danger as simply being a lack of will to solve our problems and be pessimistic rather than it being a lack of resources or power.

              [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Bro this is real life not Civilization V

              [–]IProbablyHaveEbola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              [–]b00m_shakalaka 7 points8 points  (4 children)

              It's also cheap because unlike Europe, the US has hardly any laws to keep animal farm owners from putting their animals through horrific conditions to cut costs.

              [–]ThanksRoissy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Oh there are plenty of laws to prevent or limit the abuse, but there are many more lobbyists stuffing money down the congressmens' pockets.

              [–]user0159 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              Because raising a cow with the sole intent of turning it into a delicious steak isn't horrific on it's own?

              [–]frameintegrity 12 points13 points  (0 children)

              It is horrific... horrifically delicious.

              [–]mormon-nigger 2 points3 points  (2 children)

              meat is cheap in America is because it is heavily, heavily subsidized

              the fuck are you going on about ? Subsidized by who or what? In every country I've been to, real meat is cheaper than the same product would be in America except for maybe some scandinavian countries. The result of lower labor cost, devaluing currency, and less megacorps trying to monopolize the industry keeps the prices quite modest in most countries.

              [–]useyourmouth 14 points15 points  (4 children)

              Expand my kid's mind?! No time, I've gotta go secretary for alpha boss. Besides, I've turned all responsibility for Junior's upbringing over to the government/publik skool, sooo...not my problem.

              [–]widec 10 points11 points  (2 children)

              I just got fired from a tutoring job after an "evaluation" went south. I put that in quotations because it was less of an evaluation and more me being berated and standing up for myself. The owner was female, I can't say I didn't see this coming eventually.

              One of the main points which I disagreed with is "you can't engage in any conversation with the children". This was extremely hard since children are naturally curious, and they would ask me questions about random things. I'd make deals with them, like finish this page of work and i'll explain the concept to you, but that was forbidden. I would have quit if I didn't get fired that day, I'm not going to put up with that crap. It seems like the absolute worst people are stuck teaching our kids, and it leads to them growing up into fucked up adults that can't properly integrate into society.

              This leads me on to an unrelated point, money is literally buying me freedom right now. My large amount of savings bought me the freedom to escape an abusive household. It bought me the freedom to argue with my boss without worry over losing my job. Fuck whoever says money is not important, they overlook the security and freedom it brings due to their privileged of always having enough.

              [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

              Fuck it dude. You got to stick to your values. At the end of the day you were looking out for the best interest of the child. Sounds like those rules are in place so that high flyers like yourself dont outshine the mediocre Macys.

              [–]widec 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Standing up for myself was likely the reason I got fired. It felt really fucking good though, such a high percentage of teachers bully people into obedience because they can get away with it. If I have kids, they will be taught not to tolerate being talked to like that, whether it be from another child or the teacher themselves.

              [–]StingrayVC 13 points14 points  (5 children)

              To give you maybe only smidgeon of hope, homeschooling is growing rapidly. Anecdotally, these moms often cook healthy meals and spend a good deal of time for their husbands as well.

              [–]Hoodwink 3 points4 points  (1 child)

              I've seen some really bad homeschooling moms. A lot of them are narcissists who feed off the attention they get from their children. Two friends who I grew up with also have seen a bunch of fucked up parents to the point where one (the girl) was ashamed their family was so good.

              There's a lot of bad ideas that get adopted by these mom's too because they adopt the beliefs of their small groups of homeschooling mom's as if everything is true from their peers. Anything from going vegan (and making your kids go vegan) to any and all organic or jesus-related scams.

              The level of critical thought is generally at all-time lows with home-schooling moms (and their kids). Home-schooling can have potential, but home-schooling, in general, is not an idea that catches on with the ones who should be doing, but with the ones who shouldn't.

              [–]ProjectShamrock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              The level of critical thought is generally at all-time lows with home-schooling moms (and their kids). Home-schooling can have potential, but home-schooling, in general, is not an idea that catches on with the ones who should be doing, but with the ones who shouldn't.

              My wife has many teacher friends, and I respect the amount of knowledge and skill involved with being a teacher. I can't imagine how a homeschooling mom would be able to deal with learning disabilities, for example. My wife and I do supplemental education for our kids with Kumon books and they are more advanced than other kids, but there are some things that professionally trained teachers have been invaluable in helping us with.

              [–]IProbablyHaveEbola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              A few of my friends are home schooling and it has filled me with hope. There are a lot more people doing it these days but it does require at least one stay at home parent. Most of my friends doing this married asian chicks, so... meh. (I'm not into asians)

              [–]1tombreck2 10 points11 points  (3 children)

              Suburban Sarah was born a post wall woman

              [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

              Im pretty sure she was born normal but aged into one via processed foods.

              [–]brotherjustincrowe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Think how many advertisers clean up on the "terrible mothers" market.

              [–]hohamocha 4 points5 points  (5 children)

              do you think that she will take the time to expand their mind?

              My mom was teaching me how to multiply and divide when I was a 5 year old in India. By the time I came to USA in the 2nd grade, I was well ahead of the class here. They were just learning to do arithmetic. The FOB Asian women mothers do the same thing with their kids, provide an eduction at home to make sure their kid gets in the advanced program in the USA. Funny thing is the advanced learning program in the USA is the normal program in most of Asia.

              These FOB Asian mothers actually raise their kids, while the American born Asian mothers/ white mothers are off cheating on their husbands. American born/raised mothers should at least bring along the kids when cheating on their husbands, even that would be more of an effort at raising them than their current efforts.

              [–]TGRatwi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Not my Mom, she is a doctor, and always invested a great deal of time in me and my brothers education. She faithfully helped my dad start a now large company. Very sweet mom, I love her so much.

              [–]Throwaway_SEERED 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              The situation wouldn't be quite as bad if they didn't make every effort rid their children of their fathers.

              ill wager that during the day Timmy's childhood is being wasted at daycare.

              [–]MagnanimousGenius 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Visit any American supermarket and you'll see a She-Ham, a Ham-Spawn and a crap filled shopping cart. You don't even have to look to know what's inside. It's the same shit, couple of 3 liter sodas, frozen pizza, chips, cookies and whatever the lardette can throw in the cart last minute before checkout.

              Sounds like suburban Australia too :/

              I'd say it's all the same story across the Anglo-Saxon sphere: North America, the UK, Australia and NZ

              You make a fair point about the leftist excuse of only being able to afford cheap processed crap, but the truth of the matter is it IS cheaper to buy fruit/veg and meat, and assemble a delicious and nutritious meal.

              It always sickens me to hear kids complain about vegetables getting served up, but I was lucky I had a great-grandmother feeding me growing up.

              [–]SFofallplaces 4 points5 points  (2 children)

              Quran is “expanding” his mind?

              [–]hamstercide 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              It's a complicated text and yes, a child reading it critically and memorizing it is training his mind more than passively feeding in what's flashing on the TV. As a kid my grandparents made me memorize and recite poems that carried some meaningful message. What's the message of TV programming? "Have fun"? "Keep calm and watch until the next commercial break"?

              [–]curomo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Chris Rock summed it it up nicely:

              If the kid can't read, that's Mama's fault. That is Mama's fucking fault. Now, if the kid can't read 'cause there ain't no lights in the house... that's Daddy's fault.

              [–]JovianTrainWreck 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              Timmy is destined to become an American idiot because his mother isn't doing her job.

              If she had a good captain to steer the ship, she'd have a better idea on how to do her job. Timmy's not just destined to be an American Idiot, but an American Pussy as well.

              [–]SariaLystra 2 points3 points  (4 children)

              Hell, cooking Asian foods (not the americanized ones), will be lower calories and lower fat. Cook fish and rice: bam filling 600 calorie meal right there with very little fat. Its really not that hard.

              Also, I disagree about being the "hot mom". Have you seen how many women get fat after a marriage? They're more interested in enjoying their complacency hence the behavioral changes in diet and attitude.

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                [–]smokefreeyear 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                if rice is not healthy, is it at least "neutral"?

                [–]DoctorWelch 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                There is one thing that Red Pill and many conservative voices forget when it comes to issues like this, Option Awareness.

                Whether you want to blame it one the education system or something else, the fact is that there are some things you know you don't know which means the responsibility falls into your hands to learn those things. However, when there are things you don't know you don't know it is impossible to suddenly become aware of those things without outside influence.

                So, basically I'm just playing devils advocate in saying that there are many who just make excuses, but there are also those who just don't know any better. I'm sure you've met some pretty stupid people in your life who are just outright unable to make intelligent decisions about their life.

                [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                Be dumb americunt. Have 2 fat kids. Open google. Type in: what should I feed my kids? Find answer. Problem solved.

                [–]Dwayne_Jason 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Well its a proven fact that Reading to a child at a young age improves intellectual boundaries for kids. American women had and still do read to kids all the time, its those "I'm a mom now gurlz!!!" on facebook that are too busy posting a picture of a kid to give a shit about the child's development

                [–]aazav 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                American Mothers.

                Yeah, it's fucking sad. But it is what it is.

                [–]cascadecombo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                >American children are told to respect their mothers because their natural inclination is not to.

                Except "respect" in America is often confused with "blindly obey". And from that we have the entitled people who expect everything to be handed to them because they were raised expecting people to do what they say because they always did what they were told.

                [–]smokingtransistor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Mothers are women in first place ! They have rights you know ! And children should not limit her freedom ! Men should man up and learn to cook and take care of the child so she can go out with her friends and take care of herself ! It's basic human rights !

                /s

                [–]wheresmysmokes 2 points3 points  (4 children)

                I don't think you're entirely wrong, but the thing is that the culture of the South Americans just naturally has women cooking. (Girl here) My mom didn't teach me to cook, because she didn't know how to cook very well. Everything was burned and there was never seasoning of any kind. She didn't have home economics and neither did I, and we both wish that we had. Her mom lived in the time (50s/60s) where a "recipe" involved combining several cans of soup or vegetables as quickly as possible, throwing them into a casserole dish and calling it dinner.

                I've learned to cook later on my own, and I cook from scratch for my boyfriend most days. It's very rewarding. Telling people they are "fucking joke" isn't going to fix anything. Encouraging cooking, teaching it in schools, and encouraging American female culture to change for the positive benefits will. If you don't want to respect your mom, go for it, but I would say that you could realize that she probably wasn't raised in the environment that teaches what you value either.

                [–]TheIronViking 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I'm so grateful I grew up with a mother who stayed home to raise me and took pride in feeding me healthy and delicious food. Between her (and my grandparents who taught me all about growing up in the Depression) I had a much healthier upbringing.

                I pity the poor bastards being fed Kraft dinner and spaghettios every night or going out to get food.

                [–]The_TRP_Account 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                G.L.O. in the know. Another damn solid post and I really appreciated this one. This pisses me off and my mom does/did most things on this list. Those are real problems. Quick thing: you left the word "fuck" out between "the" and "would" in the 3rd sentence of the last paragraph.

                [–]ExistentialDread 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I once knew a mother of FOUR who did not know how to make macaroni and cheese out of a box. She just boiled the pasta, and stirred in the cheese powder with some water. No idea that you have to add milk and butter, even though it's printed on every box.

                [–]juanqunt 1 point2 points  (5 children)

                Good post. You can have a very healthy bodybuilding diet for much much less than McDonalds.

                $1 = 12oz of frozen veggies. Cabbage, lettuce, kale, etc are very cheap on sale. You can get a day worth of veggies for $1 no problem.

                $1-2/lb for chicken. You can get lean drumsticks or breasts on sale, remove the skin if you want less fat, but really the skin is nutritious too, so it's fine if you're bulking. Even 2lbs of meat a day costs very little.

                $2-3/lb of beef liver. Liver contains more micronutrients than most veggies, but eat it sparingly. Liver + chicken is a good alternative if you cannot afford steak all the time.

                $3-4/lb for tilapia and some other cheaper fish.

                $1 for each avocado

                $1.2 for dozen eggs

                Oil is already fucking cheap no matter how good expensive it is. Get olive oil, coconut oil, avocado oil, etc... it's still cheaper calorie for calorie than bread and healthier.

                Speaking of bread... it's very expensive and inferior to cheaper carbs like potato and rice.

                For $10 per day, you can eat 4000+ calories, 200g+ protein, and healthier than any idiot claiming to be poor and eating fast food and chips all day. It's even cheaper if you aren't huge. I go over $10 on some days, but my parents probably eat about $5 worth of ingredients per day.

                With a diet like this, you don't need junk like protein powder and other supplements... in fact, most protein powders contain less than they advertised. There was a study and only ON was legit, most companies only put in half as much protein as they say, and there was even a company that put in 1g for a serving that's supposed to contain 30g LOL. ZMA, vit D3, fish oil, and maybe a few others are fine for health, but most of your "muscle building" supplements are useless.

                Also, cooking takes no time at all... 2 hours is enough for a few days of food. I don't know how do women spend their time while cooking. In fact, during the time I'm cooking, I can also listen to music and read books, so really very little time is wasted on cooking.

                I also plan on reading Tim Ferriss's 4 Hour Chef eventually. Smart men know how to hack the process of cooking. Most women don't know what they are doing.

                [–]big_bang_theory 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                Buy fresh veggies instead of frozen ones

                [–]angeleus09 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                This has got to be one of the most lopsided things I've read. You're right that there is a serious nutrition problem in this country that stems from our population forming bad habits over the years. Clever ads and easy meal options for "people on the go" be damned, if you buy into that way of doing things that's your fault.

                However, your post falls apart when you solely blame women for this problem. This is a cultural attitude issue, not a gender issue. Poverty Pablo may eat better quality food because his mother cooks for him and whether that's an issue of choice or lack of a grocery store down the street the point is their culture prizes that as the familial responsibility.

                Suburban Sara's mom feeds her shit because she was raised on shit and she never took the time develop the motivation for improving her and her family's diet. And yes that is her fault for not wanting something better and doing what's necessary to achieve that.

                Little Mohamed is having a book read to him by his mother probably because there isn't a TV within a mile radius but maybe because to his parents, his religious education is more important than letting him play by himself just now. Little Timmy is watching the Disney Channel because his parents don't give a shit.

                In a sub that trumpets that most glorious ideal of personal responsibility and demonizes the shifting of blame to others, this post takes a pervasive general issue with our country that we all have a stake in and solely blames one half of the equation. Really?

                Personally, I think if Suburban Sara and Little Timmy's fathers actually gave a shit then perhaps they should get off their fucking internet soapboxes and go have a straight conversation with the mother of their children to address the issues they have with how the children are being raised. I don't know, maybe cough up the initiative to set some guidelines for how things should be done to help address this nationwide problem in their own house.

                Yeah, yeah... white knight, downvotes, etc.

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                  [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 19 points20 points  (14 children)

                  This isnt an endorsment of Islam. Studying any complicated text at a yong age is a great way to develop critical thinking skills.

                  [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (4 children)

                  I'd say a better example is East Asian women that push their children to learn math, science, and music at a young age.

                  If its a choice between the lesser of two evils, I'd much rather my child eat a pop-tart than read the Quran

                  [–]stumbles047 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  If you would so easily equate reading with believing you have rather low expectations for your offspring

                  [–]MickeyRoarick 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  If I had a choice between my child watching Sesame Street and memorizing the Bible (as was traditional in early America), I'd sure as hell prefer the Bible. I'm not religious and I think the book is fucked up. But cramming that much historical perspective and moral parables into a kid is great. As soon as he starts picking out the contradictions is when he becomes an adult.

                  [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  The bible is way more fun anyway. Ham perves on passed out Noah sleeping. Then Noah is like go be gay somewhere else. Then God is like sorry about the flood guys, here's a fucking rainbow I wont do that shit again. Then later God is like just kidding im going to smite Sodom and Gomorrah even though I said I wouldn't be a dick.

                  Then later Abraham is minding his own shit and Gods like you should totally kill your son dude. Then Abrahams about to do it and God is like just kidding that was a test. Butbyou should totally cut off your forskin with a sharp rock. Your dick will look way beter that way. No Homo

                  [–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Women are just fucking lazy. My mother does the same with buying shitty frozen shit. Fuck that shit, ready-to-eat food has no business being frozen, unless it's ice cream.

                  [–]harkrank 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  Hey! It's the government's job to feed our kids. How can you be so heartless that you want to let children starve just because you don't want to pay your fair share in feeding OUR children?

                  [–]Treebranch1 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

                  The leftist explanation

                  Do you mean the political left? I'm trying to understand the connection.

                  [–]tnap4 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                  There's none, he argued both sides. He says women have cheap healthy choices but failed to assert that many healthy foods are affordable now because of government subsidies - which is actually a "leftist" move.

                  [–]angeleus09 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  IDK, I do think OP means the political left when he says:

                  The leftist explanation is that, some people can only afford unhealthy processed food. They are victims that deserve our compassion and we shouldn't judge them.

                  In my experience it's pretty common for people who identify conservatively hold liberalism/leftism to be synonymous with denying personal responsibility and redistributing blame which is the core of OP's message.

                  Honestly though it seems like all this post is saying here is that women (mother's specifically) are the main cause of poor diets, obesity and any other nutrition related issue here in the US. Which is funny because for that to be true it would have to mean that not only is every man in this country a paragon of dietary health and in good physical form, but that no man anywhere in the US has any say whatsoever regarding the groceries or meals his family purchases and consumes.

                  It's also funny because he's saying it's unacceptable to blame others for how things turn out in a post that is blaming someone else for the way things turned out.

                  [–]PlebDestroyer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I love this, it's like reading a picture book. Kudos to you :)

                  [–]blerg39 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  so, do you feel that every woman should want kids or are you ok with a woman who doesn't want children?