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[–]AlfredTheGreatest 71 points72 points  (73 children)

One thing we all have in common in this sub is we're all either in the top 20% of males that get 80% of the pussy, or are trying to get there. The thing that makes me so terrified for the future of our civilization is that we are all much more likely to spend that SMV capital on ourselves, not on supporting women and children. We receive few rewards and take many risks if we do.

When the best men invest only in themselves, and the rest retreat into solitude, it's all over. The government can't redistribute what is not produced.

When faced with this reality a rational man will go with the flow and enjoy the decline. I often ask myself what can be done to reverse this trend and I have no answer but to wait for things to hit rock bottom and hope for a bounce.

[–]mykonos_rm 53 points54 points  (14 children)

I'm of the mindset that society needs to collapse on its own bullshit foundations before any substantial change can occur. There needs to be a hard hitting wake up call so until then I'll keep trotting along doing my own thang.

[–]OakTr3E 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yes. Male qualities will only be cherished when they are really needed. When society hits rock bottom, this is when you will have the power to change things. Not now.

[–]johnniegreen 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I agree. A reboot is needed before a true recovery can begin. It'll be painful, but I honestly believe it's the only way. We're too far down the path of destruction to attempt a reversal.

[–]KissTheBridesmaid 18 points19 points  (7 children)

Gender relations will crash sooner than we think and for entirely different reasons than we think. Overpopulation, resource scarcity, Massive Debt, climate change, Geopolitical rebalancing and a few other megatrends are going to change the world sooner and more massively than any of us here think. Just because global communicators don't mention them often does not mean they aren't happening.

If you really look into it you will see that we are on the brink of massive change. We have a harsh future ahead of us. Optimistically we are looking at massive unemployment, poverty and social tensions, pessimistically but more likely our lifetimes will see large scale civil unrest, violence and wars.

A man's world in which women will really need protection. That is what the future holds. This female privilege and over-entitlement only exists because we have temporarily created societies in which it can flourish fester.

[–]100 Modbsutansalt[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Gender relations will crash sooner than we think

I disagree and mainly for one reason: it's much more likely the misandry bubble will pop by 2020 than the very huge issues you raise above occurring before then. Once the bubble pops a lot of the gender relations mess we have today will begin to remedy themselves.

[–]KissTheBridesmaid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup, agreed that misandry bubble will likely pop sooner than the stronger collapse I described.

However, although the current climate of misandry is exacerbating and to an extent driving the above mentioned forces, the predicted pop of the misandry bubble will not stop them and they will continue to lead to a stronger change, more global and pronounced, a change characterized by a return to a much less comfortable and safe environment. It will bring into strong focus the fact that women really are powerless and completely dependent on men to protect them and provide for them.

Also, anyone who has not yet read The Misandry Bubble, stop what you are doing and start reading it.

[–]disorderly 5 points6 points  (4 children)

You are spot on brother.

There is a whole skillset that we should be learning in addition to what is commonly talked about.

[–]RPL23 1 point2 points  (3 children)

and what would those skillsets be? i'm ready to learn.

[–]disorderly 9 points10 points  (2 children)

This is really deserving is own post but basically you should be in the best health possible. Get rid of addictions now and learn to live without all these luxuries we're used to. Buy a military style rifle, a couple k rounds and become proficient. Learn how to use tools and repair things. Put some of your assets into precious metals.

I could go on but really your plan of action must be built around you and your needs. It also depends a lot on your geography and what you perceive as the greatest that.

Peep this to get started :



[–]Listen_up_buddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good advice.

[–]through_a_ways 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, society needs to hit the wall

Happened everywhere before us, we're no exception

[–]blackyisthedog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I got really fed up with the entire pursuit when I was 24. I clearly remember the day. But since then, I got my graduate degree, I climbed 4 of the tallest mountains in US-48, bought a motor-bike, run ToughMudder whenever they come around, and I am scheduled to do my first glacier climb next year. I also hit the gym almost everyday. Mostly I decided to say fuck it and started doing what I wanted to do. As the article mentions, I think I have really checked out because I have little desire or scared to escalate sextually with women. My interaction with women essentially is why are you talking to me? what do you want? How can I help you? and anything outside of that doesn't even register. This approach has actually made me very confident because in my mind there is little difference between your average carpenter and a hot girl; actually I think I enjoy a talk with the carpenter because may be I may end up learning something useful. And I can actually talk to them looking at them straight in the eye because I have zero expectation and truly oblivious to any attraction even if there is any.

It is sad reality, but the metamorphosis is real.

[–]Redpillc0re 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My bet most subscribers are in neither of the 2 categories, but they follow regardless, because they want to know the truth anyway.

[–]neveragoodtime 13 points14 points  (4 children)

Men have to relearn how to be men. It's starts with the trend we're already seeing of divorce raped fathers fighting to stay relevant in their kids' lives. This has been generations in the making, starting with men being divorced out of their kids lives in the 80's, and those kids raised by single moms under the feminist imperative only to be divorce raped themselves. With men realizing they can't leave the parenting to the women, you will see more boys raised with an understanding of women that comes from their father, not their mother. This is only the beginning of the wave, and we will see a correction in 15 years' time. There will be a return to normalized gender relations in 35 years. There will still be single mom's having kids out of wedlock, but it will be OK to marginalize them from society again. A mother who doesn't understand the value of a father will not be considered a good mother.

Think about divorce law. They don't want the mother to be punished for choosing to stay at home within the marriage, so they award her alimony. But it's OK to punish the father for choosing to go to work within the marriage, so they award the stay at home mom with primary custody. Those standards take time to reverse, but now, as more male blinders come off, we see men taking responsibility for themselves, and not counting on women as fair arbitrators.

[–]BluepillProfessor 20 points21 points  (0 children)

And there will be sunshine and puppy dog tails and rainbows.

Oh, and unicorns. There will be unicorns.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The woman always gets custody if she tries hard enough. Stay at home dad doesn't mean shit. A friend of mine was a stay at home dad a year ago. Now he's a visitor in his children's lives.

[–]1Dev_on 2 points3 points  (7 children)

everyones trying to get there, that doesn't really mean anything.

Unless theres truly some sad people that don't want sex, or happiness

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Just spin plates and realize that the terms boyfriend, fiance, and even wife don't actually mean shit. They are just an illusion and self imposed shackles on a man.

[–]1Dev_on 4 points5 points  (2 children)

meh. Mine can drywall, and she is strong willed enough to steamroll me if I start acting beta...

Works pretty well. No more problems than the norm, but definately don't have to be checking phone messages, or some of the other /r/relationships crap.

But I got lucky, white girl born and raised in mexico, so literally the best of both worlds. I liked spinning plates, but damned if it doesn't take a lot of time I could be spending furthering my carrer ATM.

[–]trpMilo 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Money will get you bitches, but bitches will never give you money

[–]copralalic 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Maybe I'm truly sad, but I don't really want sex. It's messy and complicated... even if it seems easy at first, it always leaves a residue or miasma or something. Sex is just sex, what's so awesome about that?

[–]1Dev_on 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It Is what you make it. Incel is probably you defending your ego more than a lack of desire though

[–]16 Endorsed ContributorDemonspawn 11 points12 points  (4 children)

I often ask myself what can be done to reverse this trend

Revolt, Expat, or Turtle.

There are only two things that can change the path we are on: collapse or removing women's suffrage. You won't get the latter without revolt. With the former, the average sheep will hold on to what they think they can until it is far to late to reverse direction.

[–]2 Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I faced the same dilemma myself. I chose to expat. More and more people are choosing to leave the West for better opportunities abroad.

This article basically sums up what rich people are doing. It's called exit over voice. Think of places like East Germany when the wall was up, or North Korea today. There was/is no point in trying to fix that system. The best you can do is exit. Nothing sends a stronger message than seeing people risk their lives to escape East Germany or North Korea.

I have been quite happy in Thailand. There are pretty girls literally everywhere, and they are naturally more redpill than girls in the West. It is understood that men must be the leaders of women, and women are to take care of the family. Some women even choose to remain virgins until they are married. I have noticed that the shit tests women give are easier to pass, as well. They want you to be the leader. They aren't trying to chop off your balls and destroy you.

Two years in Thailand has changed me. I will never date another white woman again in my life. Sometimes the grass truly is greener in other pastures. Happy hunting.

[–]Listen_up_buddy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tell me more about Thailand. (:

[–]100 Modbsutansalt[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm not sure what you mean by turtle. And in what way would revolt occur in your opinion?

[–]16 Endorsed ContributorDemonspawn 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Turtle: basically turtle up and wait for the collapse. Rebuilt after the ashes. a.k.a Prepper.

Revolt would happen if we got a critical mass of men to understand how much the system is fucking them over. If men understood that the government went from 2% of GDP to 40% of GDP since women's suffrage (and is traceable to women's suffrage as the cause), if men understood that 70+% of government services went to women, if men understood that bureaugamy has invalidated 2/3 of men as marriage material (because the woman gets more benefit living off welfare), if men understood that women's suffrage has lead to the destruction of their liberties, if men understood that women's suffrage has lead to more war, If men understood that women's suffrage has destroyed marriage and stolen their children from them... they'd revolt to create a new government sans the 19th.

It cannot be done peaceably or by votes: women control 55% of the vote and the entire democratic party wouldn't exist without it. The only alternative to revolution is collapse (hence Turtling) or by avoiding the failing society (Expating).

If you're asking what type of revolt I mean: I mean the second American revolution.

[–]ShinyBrah 8 points9 points  (23 children)

Why would you waste high SMV on committing to women and having children?

[–]AlfredTheGreatest 27 points28 points  (22 children)

Because I like kids and want a family. Most guys do. Once the wild oats are sown it's the natural progression of life. The problem is I have money and a business and worry every day that it could be taken from me by a woman scorned. So I delay.

Every man that chooses not to start a family, or delays it, because of bad laws and bad incentives is a terrible loss to society.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (20 children)

I keep thinking about how I could have more children without exposing myself to the insane levels of risk. We should figure out a way.

[–]johnniegreen 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Does transferring ownership of your assets to a holding company / shell company offshore offer any protection?

Just thinking out loud.

[–]2 Mredpillschool 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As many have mentioned, family courts tend to ignore corporate law- try a private trust, in Nevada.

[–]panterin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, and that's how most rich people are doing it if they're in the private market. There are untouchable safe havens where you can safeguard your wealth. 99% of people think offshoring is illegal or shady, but it's perfectly legal and it's not difficult or too expensive.

[–]Elodrian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Judges can "pierce the veil" if they believe that the shareholder(s) and the company are in fact the same entity. I'm betting that would happen in the scenario you outline.

[–]rpscrote 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately the answer is the classic legal "it depends." Timing and context are absolutely critical. If you do this right before divorcing or right after beginning a divorce, no -- all of those assets would get clawed back. Shell companies would get the veil pierced as alter egos (it would make it more difficult on them though)

If you owned a real company, set up as a real LLC/Corp, and got a pre-nup that disclaims any claim she might have to that corp's ownership (shares) or its appreciation during the marriage, then you'd be okay.

You can set it up to prevent divorce rape in theory. It takes a lot of really solid pre-planning, and quality legal work. Then, you have to be prepared for a long and nasty lawsuit to enforce your rights and lots of turmoil should she divorce and try to ignore the prenup (highly likely). Plus you run the risk that the district court judge ignores the law and favors the woman based on prejudice, either locking in a bad factual determination or setting it up so you are forced to appeal and spend a lot more money and time. Further, for the up to 6-7 years it would take to go through both the initial trial and appeal, you could be getting divorce raped (no custody or what have you during pending trial) which is irreparable in terms of parenting children

tl;dr: yes its possible to protect assets, but its expensive and time consuming. It is not possible to guarantee child custody/support (or lack thereof)

[–]ShinyBrah 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Get a surrogate mother, just make sure the contract is air tight.

[–]rpscrote 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and you're in a state that lets that fly. Not too many states respect surrogacy contracts enough that it's a reliable bet

[–]Pornography_saves_li 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's how the MRM started. That exact goal.

[–]1wiseclockcounter 1 point2 points  (10 children)

I asked a question not too long ago, didn't get much of a response. But would two straight males with separate, casual dating lives who've decided to live together be able to adopt? Or would the adoption agencies consider that too volatile a household or something... Just thinking outside the box. I can see that arrangement working out pretty well if the guys' jobs allowed for it.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

I have no idea. That's a pretty good idea though. Turn those FI ideas against them. Look up some feminist words and throw them in their faces.

Though I don't really want to adopt. I'd like to actually have a biological child. Though my 'child' sleeps downstairs right now. And I do love him. Even though I now know he's not actually my child. Though I am not my father's child either. Looking up blood types taught me that. From that British study.

So many of us aren't even our father's children.

[–]elokr 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Looking up blood types taught me that.

And that's why my school district is no longer allowed to teach Punnet squares.

[–]Listen_up_buddy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Please elaborate, do you mean your father wasn't your biological father and that your 'child' isn't your biological offspring ?

[–]Tarnsman4Life 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am guessing that a (2) single male household would not pass most "home studies"

[–]ShinyBrah 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I get you. I want kids, but detest marriage and women in general.

99% of women don't deserve most men or kids, I really do hope society falls apart in that manner.

[–]coldnever 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When the best men invest only in themselves, and the rest retreat into solitude, it's all over. The government can't redistribute what is not produced.

First as a man learn about the laws of nature that govern our universe. The truth, aka knowledge = power which is synonymous with survival. What man disrespects his own long term survival?

Science on reasoning, reason doesn't work the way we thought it did. That means I can tell you all the facts and the numbers and you'll deny them:

Next the upper class has been having 'socialistic' fat government contracts for the last 200 years and most ignorant citizens are totally unaware of it.

Free markets?

WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would Stay Cheap

Look at the following graphs:

IMGUR link -

Actual research, we need a lot more of this on this sub:

[–]vakerr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I often ask myself what can be done to reverse this trend

Nothing much: Ratchets and Catastrophes and Glubb

There will be a reboot.

[–]neveragoodtime 50 points51 points  (9 children)

It's as if gays are the only men left prepared to fight masculinity's corner.

That's actually not surprising, since feminists can't out victim gays. Straight white males are persecuted for saying the same things. Feminists are ushering in a victimocracy, where political power is derived from a shameless willingness to exploit victimhood.

[–]Endorsed Contributorcocaine_face 11 points12 points  (6 children)

It's one reason why I like the fact that, despite being white, I was born in abject poverty and with a crack head step-father and a mentally ill mother, and homeless for several years in my childhood.

It's very difficult to "out victim" me, and I don't have white guilt at all.

[–]netgrey 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Doesn't matter to them. According to them, no matter your circumstances you have inherent privileges as a white male. It's all bullshit, but that's what they will tell you.

[–]Endorsed Contributorcocaine_face 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It actually has, in my experience.

It's very difficult, even for privilege junkies, to justify the cognitive dissonance of arguing I was privileged. Though knowing where I am now also probably makes them go, "Oh. He's came from nothing and now he's doing well. He's a winner." which to women is inherently attractive, so they may be shutting up for that reason too.

[–]iloveyoumorethanham 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I'm terribly sorry that happened to you but being a victim is not something to be proud of.

[–]timodmo 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It's more of a started from the bottom, I don't owe anybody shit cause nobody gave me shit kind of attitude I think. I feel pretty much the same way, especially when these upper middle class women try to tell me about how hard their life is.

Source: am a white guy, grew up very poor

[–]Endorsed Contributorcocaine_face 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Rich girls can't tell you how good you have it, when you didn't. They're used to interacting with male peers of theirs, who had access to similar resources they did. Combine that with the popular narrative that women are oppressed by us terrible men, and women can claim their lives are worse than men at their economic station.

But me? That same thing can't be said about me. None of those rich girls were dragged to a crack house when they were 12, lived in a tent, or went to bed hungry most nights. Any privilege talk aimed at me just won't work.

[–]Endorsed Contributorcocaine_face 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not a victim, at all.

I said it was very difficult to "out victim" me in the victim Olympics.

If someone tries to pull it on me, I bring up the above story, and then because they buy into that narrative, they then -cede power to me-, sometimes.

[–]vakerr 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Feminists are ushering in a victimocracy

Let's not invent new words for concepts that already have well-known names. What you're talking about is cultural Marxism.

[–]1tombreck2 58 points59 points  (9 children)

Women have life on easy mode until they hit their 30s at which point it becomes even easier once they settle down with their BB husbands

[–]TimPartendale 13 points14 points  (4 children)

This is one reason why they live longer than men (another being genetics).

[–]TheThingsIThink 16 points17 points  (3 children)

I don't buy genetics it's the lifetime of rigorous work that lowered male life expectancy in olden days. Women have pretty much conquered death in the birthing chamber. Now the things that kills men is stress. Lower class women are actually losing life expectancy due to stress and diet

[–]KarYotypeStereotype 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Since women started having careers, the gender gap for life expectancy has been shrinking. It's all lifestyle, coupled with the fact that we give preferentially good medical treatment to women.

[–]hermit087 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I agree, the stress and danger that men go through in their youth trying to attract women(dangerous behavior and violence is the result of competing for mates to some degree), plus the strain of trying to make lots of money in their 30's and 40's results in men being like fast burning candles.

[–]MrMagwitch 11 points12 points  (0 children)


[–]ubercoolhipsterguy 31 points32 points  (2 children)

Or live off of the government, which is to say, men who work for a living.

Take a look at this picture. It's all the female senators. Notice how the majority of them are wearing bright, plad colors? They're peacocking, it's a "look at me, I'm special!" social jesture. Contrast that to this picture, which highlights the conservative and serious decorum of the rest of the senate.

Senator Elizabeth Warren was quoted "What I am very happy about is that there are now enough women in the United States Senate to bring change to that place".

Not, "I want to change the Senate for X, Y, Z reasons of bad government policy," but "I want to change the Senate because women by nature have better ideas."

These people are narcissists. They honestly believe that having a vagina makes you special and better.

Hence, liberalism in all its forms: special subsidized treatment for blacks, for females, for gays; handouts for everybody with an excuse for not succeeding based upon thier identity rather than their achievements, because, you know, I'm special even though I can't do math. Mommy told me so.

[–]1knitro 28 points29 points  (4 children)

I think he buries the lede a bit with his own pet issues around homosexuality & transgenderism (it strikes me as topic-drift).

That said, I think his position as a relative 'outsider' strengthens his pieces - which are well-crafted & well researched. This has been a measured series of articles which I think are a good start to push back against the feminist Overton Window of what is 'right'.

You can't expect it to happen overnight, but as these talking points move towards more mainstream places, it's a good thing.

[–]antariusz 27 points28 points  (2 children)

He's 100% correct, he's writing the same article that any straight male writing "could" write, but would get accused of hating women and just "unable to get laid".

[–]16 Endorsed ContributorTRPsubmitter 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think as he's gay, he definitely disproportionally aware of some things straight guys aren't. He is probably heavily involved with gay guys and transgenders who maybe were previously married to women and then got divorced and don't feel the need to anymore in today's society. So I think he's using that as a point that even gay men are affected by women's vilification of men.

It's a negligible outcome but I guess he has a point.

[–]Ties5o 37 points38 points  (5 children)

I realize the Side-bar is pretty filled up by now, but I feel this two part series is straight up side-bar material.

[–]NumbersOnTheBoard 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It would fit well in the "New Here?" section.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Yes. This is a shorter, more digestible version of "The Misandry Bubble" -- covers a lot of the same topics with more of a mainstream tone.

[–]Scymnus 21 points22 points  (2 children)

To be honest I don't think TRP needs to be dumbed down by mainstream language. It's growing way too fast already, and with the use of mainstream language newer members will only half-ass attempts to understand the core concepts before they start posting. I've already seen the general tone of the subreddit change slightly in the year I've been here, and if we go too far down that path the subreddit will lose it's point.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I feel you. The Misandry Bubble is amazing reading. Really, it's the only reading that should be truly required IMO. Fair enough.

[–]NumbersOnTheBoard 41 points42 points  (5 children)

Oh man, The Red Pill got name dropped. This'll create a huge wave of new subscribers. Based on the number of readers the first part got, I have to assume this is where we'll get a huge bump in that exponential growth.

Other than that observation this series has been spot on in its analysis and really captures the thoughts displayed here.

I look forward to part 3.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAerobus 99 points100 points  (4 children)

Every member of the community needs to remember to do his and her job. With more new members, we will get more trolls, more ignorant fools who refuse to read the sidebar, more people who will be shocked at the non-PC language we use. We as members of TRP need to help the mods out. Use the report button. Downvote comments that do not contribute to the discussion, and those that are off-topic. Be an active member.

[–]NumbersOnTheBoard 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I agree entirely. The mods are gonna be working double time when this starts circulating around Facebook.

Its up to us as members to make sure that the content stays on point.

I'm afraid that this place is going to be filled with new members immediately entering the anger phase, post rants constantly, and the mainstream media is going to look at all this and say,"Here we have a bunch of angry misogynists who hate women!!"

Which, of course, will only bring new members.

[–]1Dev_on 8 points9 points  (0 children)

TBH, comment on it. For every bad post, theres 100 people who are on the fence reading it, upvoting it because they don't know any better.

[–]Summertime_Dimes 56 points57 points  (49 children)

I am 30. The male friends I had in high school all now fall into 3 categories: 1. Married and unhappy, 2. Divorced and generally content to avoid relationships with women except for sex, 3. In a long term relationship heading towards marriage and unhappy. None of them are single and enjoying their prime by partaking in the company of young attractive women. idiots.

The female "friends" I had in high school and the exes that I dated in HS and in college generally fall into three categories as well 1. single, perpetually drunk, bitter and looking like utter shit, 2. married, perpetually drunk, bitter and looking like utter shit, and 3. married and looking pretty good. The ones that fall into category 3 all got married between 25 and 28 to wealthy dudes with good jobs and tons of cash. Category 3 women were smart, acted prudently and cashed in at or near the top of the market while they had looks. They have generally continued to be smart and act prudently to remain as attractive as possible.

I personally would never consider engaging in a LTR with any woman over the age of 23. If I find out she has been with 3 or more people before me sexually, an LTR is also off the table.

I believe that we are bearing witness to society becoming utterly fucked. However, as an opportunist - I plan on making as much cash as possible and fucking as many hot women as possible until I meet one that is worth settling down with. I harbor no illusion that day will ever come to pass, so in the mean time $, gym, enjoy life, fuck hot chicks, and get some sleep from time to time.

[–]crazydave1979 15 points16 points  (13 children)

that's what I did.. put off marriage and now i have the security of having my house paid off in my 30s..

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (5 children)

You did good. I have the 'male privilege' of paying half the mortgage and half the utilities on a house I haven't been in in over a year while my lovely wife fucks dudes off of tinder while my son is there.

[–]JohnDoe78 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I would of quit my job and moved overseas... fuck that for a joke

[–]ubercoolhipsterguy 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You shitlord! How dare you infringe upon a woman's right to choose her own sex partner!

[–]KarYotypeStereotype 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My uncle is in that boat, except he paid for the entire mortgage and also financed his ex wife's boob job.

Fucking makes my blood boil.

[–]Summertime_Dimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tough luck, brother. I always hate to hear that. How much longer do you have on support payments, and are you on the hook for alimony?

How are you helping your son to not make the same mistakes you did?

[–]panterin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't keep living in slavery. Believe in yourself and make a new future somewhere else. Put up a fight!

[–]Limekill 6 points7 points  (5 children)

well.... Asset protection becomes very important for your future....

[–]crazydave1979 5 points6 points  (4 children)

much easier when only in my name

[–]netgrey 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Does anyone know if you can assign assets to this to an llc and protect it even further?

[–]rpscrote 2 points3 points  (0 children)

short answer: yes, but it wont get you much on its own without doing more

longer answer: the liability limitation on LLCs can be ignored in the same way a corporation's veil can be pierced. If the LLC is your "alter ego" e.g. it is just you with a different name, then they will treat it no differently than they treat you. Factors: do you co-mingle your assets? is your LLC undercapitalized for its purpose? do you observe corporate/llc formalities? There are more but those are the most important.

There is a right way to do it. Real estate developers do it all the time; they are the masters of LLCs and were the big money pushing for them to get created as an entity in the first place. Here's how: 1) put real estate into LLC, 2) name and conduct business with the LLC as a real estate development/rental business, 3) if it is your house, pay rent to your LLC. Take the mortgage out in the LLC's name, even if you have to be named as a guarantor (NOTE if you have a mortgage with recourse, the LLC wont stop the bank), 4) buy property insurance, other insurances, pay property taxes, etc out of LLC rental income, 5) pay out remaining rent income as income back to you (opt for partnership/s-type taxation on the llc). Sign a rental agreement between yourself and your LLC. Write all changes in rent, tax payments, improvements to the property with proper LLC paperwork (you might need to consult a lawyer on the proper ways to do this, there are some good NOLO style user-friendly manuals you could get by on). A by product of this is that it is easy as pie to start renting the house to other people too -- if you want to get in on that. Almost every company worth anything will have a Real Estate LLC/corp to which they pay rent so that the actual company doesn't own the real estate. It's great for tax purposes and for liability purposes

Like summertime dimes says, trusts can be a good mechanism as well. Any good succession planning attorney/estate planning attorney can help you with this. The best would be to find a small practitioner who deals in both business formation and estate planning as they will know the tricks for both paths in your state and likely will also have a good grasp on the tax advantages of them as well. There are way too many lawyers out there now and a lot of them will do this kind of work for a lot less money than you might expect

[–]Summertime_Dimes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LLC - not sure. My guess is no because of pass through taxation.

I would look into setting up a trust. Seen that work for your purposes.

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    [–]Summertime_Dimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    and you as well, brother. It is hard to argue with facts. Much gains to you as well dude.

    [–]Dr_Gabe_Lackman 5 points6 points  (8 children)

    For the younger guys that can catch a virgin they shouldn't be looking for an LTR, if marriage is on their mind, with anyone but a virgin.

    [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 22 points23 points  (7 children)

    Doesn't matter. My second wife was a homely 21 year old virgin when I met her and popped it. At 30 she decided to jump on the cc with a thirsty omega, because I got sick and she was "curious about others".

    Fuck LTR, marriage, and the naive bullshit that a virgin will stay. Even an ugly one will find someone desperate enough to fuck her that doesn't care that she is married. Unless you're tall, rich, alpha as fuck, ripped, and have kick ass game it won't matter.

    *edit because tablets think they can change anything they want.

    [–]Dr_Gabe_Lackman 4 points5 points  (4 children)

    I'm not saying don't improve yourself but a virgin is the safest bet for the guys that wont abandon their progenial desires.

    There's also a chance that she lied about her number and if she dumped you for an omega then you definitely weren't aware of AWALT which these guys here are.

    [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 8 points9 points  (3 children)

    Can't lie about the number when you pop it. If you've broken a hymen you know it. Doesn't matter, virgin or not. Get cancer or a respiratory illness that kills your self confidence and the chances the bitch will take off skyrocket.

    [–]1wiseclockcounter 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    I feel like any slip up, even the very normal slip into routine, will cause a virgin's desires to wander. Happens with guys too. Only being with one person your whole life? people are curious. It's something to expect. However, the amount of work necessary to maintain your SO's interest and desire in you can be negligible.

    [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Can be negligible, but sure as fuck don't expect it to be. My point is AWALT, and thinking a virgin you deflower will somehow be different is akin to assuming she is a unicorn. All it takes is someone with the appearance of higher smv and she could jump the fence to find out. Trust them to be females and act like females, and realize that means hypergammy, solipsism, and poor impulse control with a fission powered hamster justifying any bad choice she might make.

    [–]1wiseclockcounter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    woops, totally misused the word negligible, should have said prohibitive. What I meant was that the amount of work to combat the hypergamy/solipsism/etc can be so much as to make it not worth it. Totally agree with you.

    [–]surfjihad 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    Even then, she'll Fuck an omega pool boy

    [–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    All he has to do is appear to have high status and smv, her hamster and the "ooh shiny new toy" effect will do the rest.

    [–]MrMagwitch 11 points12 points  (4 children)


    [–]fiat_lux_ 9 points10 points  (1 child)

    Also, assets you accumulated before marriage are much easier to protect in a divorce. If you get married and continue to save money, make sure you open new accounts and keep your old ones separate.

    Also important to note: Interests/rent/dividends made using old assets in "American Rule" states are counted as separate property -- California is one of these states. In "Spanish Rule" states, such income/rent/dividends are community property.

    See IRS's IRM, chapter 18 on community property:

    In other words, if you own an apartment and collect rental income, it helps to have a separate account and have records. This is reasonable, because not all of the rent is disposable income. A good chunk of it goes towards paying taxes and maintenance of the apartment.

    Same with 401k, another sizable portion of many Americans' savings, and a good amount of the nominal interest goes towards fighting inflation, so the real interest is lower. If your gains are cut in a divorce, you've lost significantly more than is fair.

    [–]Summertime_Dimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Did not know any of this. Thanks for the info, chief. Definitely good to know.

    [–]Summertime_Dimes 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Oh no doubt, brother. I am right there will you 100%.

    My end game is to retire at 35 and live off passive income streams and a few side projects I have.

    No concerns about divorce since I am never getting married. Great advice, dude.

    [–]lachiemx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    What sort of passive income streams are available these days?

    [–]rockymountainoysters 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    There's been remarkable progress in understanding how men's brains change when they excessively partake of modern digital conveniences (porn). Women might pride themselves on being more virtuous than us by consuming less of it.

    This article, however, reveals women's own psychological corruption. Post-sexual revolution, they are riding the CC and ruining their own selves, acquiring such high standards for their one-time AF that they become unsatisfied with men their grandmothers would have been happy with. Their perspectives have become more warped than ours have by our gazing at nubile young honeys on the internet.

    Society has witnessed it with hardly a comment: the death of feminine virtue.

    [–]Labore_Et_Constantia 26 points27 points  (12 children)

    This is why MGTOW wins:

    More money for you

    More time for whatever you wanna do

    More resources to increasing your LMS

    If you want a woman, feel free, but no attachment to an amoral entity and DEFINITELY no marriage.

    [–]1User-31f64a4e 18 points19 points  (1 child)

    More time, money and resources, sure.

    That's not it, though. Really it's about less hassle, and much less risk.

    [–]MagnanimousGenius 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Risk is the number 1 for me.

    No risk of divorce rape

    No risk of having my kids stolen away from me, and being alienated from them

    No risk of the fallout reputation smear from divorce rape/ child custody

    Way less risk of paternity fraud (0 risk if you get a vasectomy)

    The list goes on and on....

    And then of course you've got all that extra cash

    [–]slcjosh 2 points3 points  (8 children)

    Saying this is a way that MGTOW "wins" is an understandable conclusion. But I have never really been that big on the labels that get thrown around. Omega this, MGTOW that, and the list goes on.

    MGTOW seems like just another label of something that to me, is already covered by being a successful, stoic man. Im striving to be successful, working on my stoicism, and I dont feel I need a label for it.

    Nothing really wins, as long as you get value from a sub like this and it truly improves your life and happiness, who cares what is called? Its working!

    Maybe I just dont know enough to differentiate. Either way Im here for discussion and to learn so any opinions on this I welcome.

    [–]Labore_Et_Constantia 1 point2 points  (5 children)

    It's just an encompassing term for men who either enter relationships (or even just hookups) with EXTREME care or who avoid them all together.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorcocaine_face 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    I always associated it with the term, "omega" - guys who knew their SMV was low and maximizing it was a long, difficult slough that they didn't want to go through.

    I eschew relationships with girls (so that I have more time for doing my stuff), but I still fuck them.

    [–]100 Modbsutansalt[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Omega Sigma males are actually alphas who go lone wolf/do their own thing. Tesla and Sir Isaac Newton come to mind. They were both at the top of their fields, but completely forewent relationships and women in general.

    edit: on second thought I'm thinking of Sigma males.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorcocaine_face 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Sigma is the term typically used for "lone wolf" types. I personally feel it's just hamstering for men to think they're "alpha" when they don't have many friends/any position of power. Omega would equal neckbeard.

    Honestly, I feel using the alpha/beta/omega thing doesn't really work except as a conceptual tool. The moment you say, "Am I an alpha?" you've lost. It's like with PUA - if you have to call yourself a PUA (except for marketing purposes), you aren't one.

    [–]slcjosh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Sounds a lot like trp.

    [–]100 Modbsutansalt[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)


    Successful how exactly? Many MTGOW live with their parents, play video games with friends, and watch porn rather than date. By who's measure are you determining what's "successful"? Most people's version of the word is probably far different from what a lot of MGTOWs would say.

    [–]slcjosh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Ahhhhh, ok I see your point more clearly. I would NOT consider success being a guy like the dude in 40 year old virgin who has to hide his toy collection and gaming chairs when a woman comes over. And that's not what I strive for at all. I see the difference. Thanks for your input.

    [–]Baylien2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Whats LMS?

    [–]lordofthejelly 16 points17 points  (0 children)

    Suggestion for the mods:

    As much as I like this article, it might be prudent to sticky a message at the top specifically for the next incoming wave...

    etc. A little preemption might save you all a ton of work and everyone else a ton of reporting, if part 2 gets shared as much as part 1 did.

    [–]Espiritu13 15 points16 points  (4 children)

    This is such a fantastic summation of the issues that only adults seem capable of discussing.

    He is going to get absolutely shit on for his transgender comment. I have not studied transgenderism enough to have a opinion, but this man is braver then I am. I used share opinions like this, then the places I worked really started to hate me so I've kept it for myself.

    [–]seddition 15 points16 points  (3 children)

    He's right about it though. Transgenderism is body dismorphia which is a diagnosed mental illness per the DSM.

    [–]Espiritu13 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    that's what I've been reading so far. I could see that absolutely setting some people off.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorcocaine_face 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Yes, I read an argument about this a couple months back that really convinced me. I'll still, in public, use the acceptable definition and whatever pronouns a person wants, but privately I feel they're mentally ill people.

    [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil 90 points91 points  (30 children)

    This article has a pretty blatent pro homosexual bias. Gays make fabulous husbands. Gays are the only ones fighting for men in gamer gate. Gays are smarter. Gays not being shamed into paternity will decrease the quality of the gene pool.

    Then the author continues his argument that modern women arnt worth it. Well to a gay they obviously arnt. Why put up with female drama when instead you can go hook up at club tiger heat and enjoy dual male income with your boyfriend. Gays have very high disposable income, thats why they make up the bulk of my personal training business. I digress.

    Heres the thing about gay dudes. Their biggest fantasy is seducing a bisexual dude who thinks hes straight. The whole rejection of women and MGTOW trend puts more bisexuals within homosexuals grasp. First you reject women then you accept dick in your ass, at least thats what the author is hoping for.

    The author of this piece is a very intelligent homosexual man (with a colosal tramp stamp). He makes a very good argument. However when a homosexual man makes a strong argunent for hetero men to reject women, you guys should be a bit suspicious.

    [–]AlfredTheGreatest 54 points55 points  (14 children)

    What he said about gays being at the forefront of fighting feminist gender bashing is spot on. They can make arguments on the public sphere that can't be made by straight white men because they have cover from the standard feminist character attacks that follow.

    [–]1Dev_on 28 points29 points  (13 children)

    I remember a quote from a redditor. Ask any gay guy in his 30s... he will tell you any women >30 absolutely hates you, because you no longer have anything to offer her.

    [–]100 Modbsutansalt[S] 7 points8 points  (12 children)

    I'm curious about the implication that gay men in their 20s do have something to offer women, and what that something might be? Companionship? An echo chamber? I'm genuinely curious as to what it is and why it's not something gay men in their 30s can provide anymore.

    [–]johnniegreen 28 points29 points  (0 children)

    Validation. It's what plants women crave.

    [–]16 Endorsed ContributorGayLubeOil 41 points42 points  (4 children)

    Have a seat on daddy's lap. Because today im going to tell you the Red Pill truth about Gay World. How does a hetero know so much about gay world?

    When I first started personal training the more established trainers were taking the profitable clients. I had to find my niche. As a Gym Bro superstar, my expertise is in training men. But young men dont have any money and are too proud to buy personal training.

    But Gays have tons of disposable income. Also the gay dating scene is very competitive. Gays are into muscular athletic muscular men and if you don't look the part, then your basically the fat chick at the party. Because of this gay clients have a very strong motive to get in shape. In between sets of deadlift and squat my clients vent to me about their lives. That's how I know so much about gay world. e

    • Many gays mistakenly believe that masculine heterosexual men hate them. A big part of being a hetero male is giving you friends a hard time. Once my marine friend came at me with a taser and only stopped when I (barely) got him in a triangle choke. Im also the subject of a lot of bodybuilder and Russian jokes. But its all in good fun. Gays frequently mistake this normal male teasing for gay bashing.

    • Many gays have negative experiences when they come out to their parents and friends. The event is so traumatic that they sometimes stereotype all heterosexual men as gay haters.

    • A big part of the gay identity is victimhood. Some gays bond over how oppressed they are by society. This reinforces the belief that heterosexual men are the enemy.

    • Unattractive/awkward/fat/feminine gay men who are not accepted by the gay community chose instead to be a woman's beta.

    For the above reasons many gay men prefer to hang out with women rather than heterosexual men. Women love male attention and this is a great deal for them.

    Some gay men have realized that women are terrible friends and have joined us Red Pillers in talking shit. Quite a few gay dudes stop going to a gay club once there are too many women.

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      [–]brotherjustincrowe 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      Need a laugh? The selfsame feminists crying that privileged, white, straight women need their own safe spaces are also crying misogyny against gay bars refusing to let them in. I don't remember if lawsuits were threatened or not, but either way, feminists can't logic.

      [–]1wiseclockcounter 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      everything GayLubeOil said sounds spot on, but to be direct- I think that person was saying women >30 are post wall husband-hunters who don't have time to waste not nailing down a provider.
      So they're like fuck these gay dudes, ain't nobody got time fo dat.

      [–]1Dev_on 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I'd have to go looking around, hopefully my other account has it saved, but there was a thread about a big rant, where gay guys were annoyed with women. A lot of it was younger women, instantly seeing a beta male they can go shopping with, with SMV (because women can't tell they are gay straight off) and as they get older, gets angry.

      I don't think I can do it justice, but I'm sure the gay guys subreddit probably has a few reposts.

      [–]brotherjustincrowe 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      A fashionable gay BFF?

      [–]100 Modbsutansalt[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Yes. Some women collect gay male friends and treat them like an accessory like a new purse or watch. I've seen this a couple of times and I only personally know maybe 4 gay dudes in all of my social circles, so I suspect it's a pretty prevalent thing. Looking back, now I can see what GLO was getting at above when older women despise gay men.

      At that stage of their lives having a gay dude in their close social circle doesn't gain them anything, and worse, can be a drain on them because by that point they realize gay men don't give the women a pass and expect to be treated as equals. Basically they've since realized that gay dudes aren't going to be their beta orbiter feeding them validation all the time, and most will freely call them out on thier shit.

      [–]Listen_up_buddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Thank you for the explanation. I never really thought about it like that but it makes sense!

      [–]1Watermelon_Salesman 17 points18 points  (3 children)

      This is a very good point. I don't think it's reason to be alarmed, since the author himself puts up for debate how absurd is the fact that it's mostly gays, dykes and transgeeks discussing how real men and women should interact with each other. I think most of his arguments stand, but indeed we should keep an eye looking over our shoulder, as always, and specially since that text went viral.

      [–]Endorsed Contributorcocaine_face 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      Well that's part of the problem - most people are more content with standard gender roles. It's natural to them.

      People with aberrant sexuality are the ones who really make a stink about these issues.

      Do you think a straight woman with a normal, healthy sex-life with a man she respects would say, "all heterosexual sex is rape"?

      Hell no!

      [–]vakerr 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Do you think a straight woman with a normal, healthy sex-life with a man she respects would say, "all heterosexual sex is rape"?

      You forget the brainwash that modern education has become.

      [–]Endorsed Contributorcocaine_face 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      A normal woman still isn't going to say that.

      [–]100 Modbsutansalt[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Everyone has personal biases, it's just a fact of life. Overall though the article is pretty damn good. As another poster pointed out, it's basically the Misandry Bubble article, but more easily digestible and accessible to the public at large.

      [–]Redpillc0re 11 points12 points  (2 children)

      I agree about the homosexual bent, but that's where he's coming from so its kind of expected. I don't think though its just their kink about bedding straight guys. Being male and logical, they seem to reach reach the same conclusions as redpillers do. And in the end i would like to think that gays like men, so they would want them to be happy in general. Also dont forget that homosexuals are often trendsetters in human relationships (this sounds much, but think of online dating, tinder, fetishes).

      Truly though, what bothers me more is why don't straight intellectuals/writers talk frankly about these matters in public? Both Milo and Jack Donovan, who are gay, advocate anti-feminism publicly, with support from some women academics like Summers. The rest of the manosphere is hiding inside their cryptic "sphere" , avoiding public confrontation. Redpillers shudder at the thought of getting public attention because they think they 'll be "stoned". The only public major intellectual who talks about the decline of the west is Michel Houellebecq (who i believe is straight). And the psychologist Dr. Roy Baumeister who writes about the modern economics of sex from a neutral point-of-view

      Many alternative explanations could be given:

      • There's nothing wrong with women; these gay guys don't know what they're talking about

      • Sexual desire for women is such a big blinder that it puts a stop in the mouths of every smart man and men cannot control their desire no matter how smart

      • Straight guys think they 'll be publicly shamed because they are straight. (Thats not true; no one has even tried)

      • All intellectuals are pure alphas who have tons of chicks chasing them so they never really know something 's up

      • Men are hopeless romantics who still think that one day soon women will change

      Smart move of Milo to link to manosphere sites; expect an upsurge in subscriptions.

      [–]Endorsed Contributorcocaine_face 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I have a gay roommate. I'd say he definitely leans redpill, if he is a bit horrified by my behaviors towards women, he doesn't deny their effectiveness or the truth of my beliefs.

      [–]shadowq8 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      in western media that is what it takes for people to listen, they can't call him shit because he has the gay armor on it somehow gives a resistance to some criticism.

      [–]heist_of_saint_graft 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Exactly. Like GLO I was annoyed with the author constantly bringing it back to gay men. But it does sidestep one bullet they could shoot at the messenger.

      [–]lucoztazade 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Why is this being downvoted? It's important to always take into account any and all motivations of the author of anything you read.

      [–]slcjosh 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      because there are a lot of users here who have not fully understood the value of skepticism. Plus they are just downvoting with emotion rather than logic. If you disagree with /u/GayLubeOil and his post, thats fine, but you cant argue with his breakdown or (wait for it.....) OPINION on the article in question. He feels the way he feels about it, and his logical explanation as seen above is his reasoning as to why.

      So if you differ on opinion, it is of course "downvote worthy" to people who lack critical thinking skills. Similar to users who come in here and try to shit on us. It's all emotion driven and therefore, Invalid.

      [–]omglazers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Can I get a picture of that stamp? That's a random comment that deserves a picture to accompany it.

      [–]anonlymouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      The author of this piece is a very intelligent homosexual man (with a colosal tramp stamp). He makes a very good argument. However when a homosexual man makes a strong argunent for hetero men to reject women, you guys should be a bit suspicious.

      He's not making an argument to reject women, he's making an argument to attack feminism. Which should be obvious, since Milo writes for Breitbart.

      [–]miscandom 15 points16 points  (2 children)

      Upvoted as requested. Hopefully more people will see the light and realize what they should be doing to improve their life, it took me years to find the truth. Also, this is my first comment, all sidebar reading completed for this this sub even though I swallowed the pill about 1.5 years ago. Looking forward to get more involved in this community, best one out there IMO.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorYouDislikeMyOpinion 12 points13 points  (1 child)

      This is how every new member should be. Welcome to the community, I hope you set a trend. I will link new people to your post to show them how unsatisfactory their approach is when they come here, don't read the sidebar, post crap, and etc.

      Enjoy reading TRP. That's what I do. The rest will come naturally. I started by reading (this was back when we had 1-4k subs). Every time someone would post something with a piece of logic missing another person would come in and explain it in a reply to the post. As new members came in, I found myself doing that. At times I saw a great opportunity to post some knowledge that I gained through my own experiences and that led to me writing many long posts.

      [–]1 Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Every time someone would post something with a piece of logic missing another person would come in and explain it in a reply to the post. As new members came in, I found myself doing that.

      That's exactly, why I find /r/asktrp to be so valuable.

      You've got a diversity of topics which want to be discussed in a red light and are mostly of a very basic nature.

      Since those are more or less "mini"-threads, you are most likely to be corrected and get concepts explained again are pointed to the right resources, instead of just being downvoted, getting deleted or just being mocked.

      I regard it a little bit like a playground and using it has helped me very much to internalize everything TRP is about, recognizing repeating patterns and finally being able to draw my own conclusions out of it and connect them to the big picture.

      In my opinion it could also serve as a filter for here. Making it mandatory, to collect three to five points there, before you are able to make top-level posts here, or even comment at all, would rapidly increase quiality.

      [–]Robdogx9001 10 points11 points  (4 children)

      This explains the emergence of bronies.

      [–]slcjosh 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      This comment cracked me up! To counter, I am not sold on the articles idea that mens growing lack of interest in the other sex is part of the cause of "alternative" sexuality.

      I feel like men who are getting off to the thought of being a mythical unicorn pony thing, are men (and women) who were into some pretty weird shit any way. Human sexuality is a very strange beast and i dont feel like one thing like "the sexodus" is going to cause a huge influx of that. Thats a matter of opinion, as there is no science to prove it. On the other hand, there is not much science to say other wise, its a very unexplored and relatively new topic.

      [–]lordofthejelly 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      To me it makes's lack of interest in women is certainly driving pornography, which is one form of "alternative" sexuality. It's not a huge leap to think that furries might be an outgrowth of the same phenomonon

      [–]slcjosh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      That can easily be countered with the pure ease and access argument. Its everywhere. Have the internet? You Have porn. Homeless dudes are whacking it to their favorite milf porn on their mobiles.

      What I'm saying is there needs to be scientific study on the matter to prove the authors hypothesis.

      [–]shadowq8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      bronies are the new furries

      [–]Redpillc0re 11 points12 points  (5 children)

      This part goes a lot deeper than the initial one. Some parts digress out of reality, like the bit about closeted homosexuals making good husbands.

      He does mention a few things that are picking up quick which you may have never heard of (like furries). And he links to major manosphere sites which is good in general.

      I think Roosh had said that 2014 would be the year of the manosphere going mainstream. Well, it seems it's gonna be 2015.

      [–]LasherDeviance 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      And the whole "Homos have higher IQ's" thing as well. It's like, "Really dude?"

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      I wonder how badly the author wishes he had a wife he could cheat on with other men? Cause that's what I got out of that part.

      [–]cyclonus007 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      That section was about how even gay men used to feel the societal pressure to get married and have children with women. Homosexuality wasn't as accepted so it was something that was done on the side, almost as an indulgence. But now that gays can live openly, that pressure is gone.

      [–]Redpillc0re 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Yeah it's really weird because he 's borderline suggesting that women should have kids with gays. I guess in his imagined future of total chaos this sounds like an option.

      Pity, because that makes the article looks quite foolish.

      [–]Borpilux 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Didn't sound that way to me. In the past, that behavior was not uncommon. The wives seemed unaware at first, then still stuck around afterwards.

      [–]1johnnight 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Part 1 had an insane amount of comments.

      [–]Redpillonlyaccount 10 points11 points  (6 children)

      I don't know if this will appear that much on Facebook seeing as men's issues are irrelevant to most people on there unless it impacts women in some way.

      [–]100 Modbsutansalt[S] 15 points16 points  (5 children)

      Believe it or not, I saw a couple instances of Part 1. Granted the women who posted it framed it in the context of "look at these whiners blaming women for their problems".

      [–]Redpillonlyaccount 4 points5 points  (4 children)

      Colour me surprised. Stupid women. They're the ones that are going to lose out. I haven't seen it yet on my feed but if it does I'm going to open a few eyes.

      [–]1wiseclockcounter 10 points11 points  (3 children)

      to borrow a few of the Laws of Power, and also from my personal experience debating feminism on facebook, I would advise against that (unless it is a very brief, unassailable truth)

      Law 3: Conceal your intentions

      Law 4: Always say less than necessary

      Law 5: So much depends on reputation- Guard it with your life

      Law 9: Win through your actions, never through argument

      [–]Redpillonlyaccount 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Thanks for the advice but I'm not going to argue so much as just surprise people by saying that this article and the previous one describe exactly how I feel. This will come as a surprise to most of the people I know. I never argue against feminist posts on Facebook normally. That's a colossal waste of time.

      [–]1wiseclockcounter 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      do as you please, but that could be an even more dangerous option. Because then you're agreeing with something that offends them in a very general sense. You then give them the power to make any connection they want between their offense and your character. You may not give a shit about your facebook friends, but ostracizing oneself can never be exactly positive, so why bother at all?

      [–]Redpillonlyaccount 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      That's good advice. I'll consider what I say and who I say it to.

      [–]bubbleki 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      The one thing that is missing from the equation is how the entire paradigm's endgame is the destruction of the family.

      [–]vakerr 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      The article doesn't spell it out, but if you read up on the Frankfurt School and cultural Marxism, it's in there.

      [–]BluepillProfessor 3 points4 points  (3 children)

      I think this is very, very important. Interesting that only gay men are allowed to defend masculinity in the mainstream media.

      [–]100 Modbsutansalt[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Women are also allowed to. Look at the MRM and how most of the prominent MRAs are women. It's the "protected classes" who are immune from criticism else the person on the attack can be seen as oppressive.

      [–]shadowq8 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      i think its because western society will come after you otherwise.

      [–]BrunoOh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      It's because they cannot be shamed. "You're just mad at womyn because you can't get a real womyn" "I like men" "You just can't get laid" "Actually, I quite enjoy pummiling my boyfriends ass".

      [–]1Watermelon_Salesman 6 points7 points  (2 children)

      Holy shit, Jack Donovan is gay?

      [–]Redpillc0re 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      He never stops mentioning it, if you have actually read/heard of the guy you should know.

      [–]sheds82 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      He says it in the article dude. hahahaha

      [–]cherrypoptart27 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      When you see this article on your Facebook newsfeed, you know this guy is making some noise...

      [–]Luckyluke23 2 points3 points  (5 children)

      great read. this guy is really on point. I can see why guys are just opting out.

      here is a story for your guys

      I'm into the whole " pua thing" ( just naming it for you guys) and a few weeks ago I was in the club chatting with a HB5 ( rating scale being 1-10) I wasn't much into her, though I was talking to her cos she seamed fun.

      some random guy ( didn't know him) came up to us and started chatting. This guy ( who was drunk) start telling the girl she should hook up with me. I was laughing and have a good time ( the drunk guy was pretty funny) he kept teeling the girl that she should hook up with me and i just brushed it aside.

      then out of nowhere she said it. i wouldn't hook up with him, he's a little fat and he needs to trim his eyebrows and fix his back

      ( note: this girl is fatter than me, I am 175cm tall and 95kgs so you can get a gist of me. sure I do need to work on myself but whats the point when, I am going to be a 10 and all i can get is a 5)

      I nearly lost it. I can see why guys don't even bother with this shit no more if hb 5 are saying that shit.

      [–]2 MRedPillWatchTower 4 points5 points  (5 children)

      Get ready for another massive influx of new users.

      [–]Blue_2_Red 8 points9 points  (2 children)

      I'm not really "new" (been lurking for nearly a year), but these two articles convinced me it was time to get an account, subscribe and become an active member of the community.

      [–]2 MRedPillWatchTower 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      I approved that post, but your future ones are going to get auto-sniped for a while by the Automod. And to answer a question we get everyday, no, we cannot "whitelist" users.

      [–]shadowq8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      i like that u mods did that, it prevents trolls but also helps people to grow some balls and say there opinion regardless if other redditors dig up there history to attempt to flame them.

      [–]Hatorader 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      "White Men created most of what is good about the world."

      [–]Endorsed ContributorYouDislikeMyOpinion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I like our analysis of the Sexodus part 2 better.

      [–]shadowq8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      it is ironic, that within societies in pursuit of pleasure have somehow created a somewhat invisible hell.

      [–]shutayooface 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      I'd like to read it. I liked part one, but I keep getting..."This page can't be displayed"

      [–]100 Modbsutansalt[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Looks fine to me. Maybe try a different browser?

      [–]shutayooface 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      That's odd. I can't get it to open in IE or Chrome. But it will open in Firefox.